In many sad cases, promoting QAnon ends with broken relationships and derailed careers. But occasionally, QAnon promoters end up in Congress or as Director of the FBI. This week Jake, Travis, and Liv check in with our QAnon friends in government. We chat about Rep. Margarie Taylor Greene’s split with Trump and accusations that FBI Director Kash Patel is living large (while impressing his 24-year-old country singer girlfriend) on the taxpayer’s dime. We also discuss The Blaze’s bumbling attempt to identify the January 6th Pipebomber through “gait analysis” and Trump’s new involvement in the case of former Colorado County Clerk Tina Peters, who is serving a 9 year prison sentence for election interference.
We don’t cover the newly released emails about Epstein, not because any of us have been tourists to Little Saint James, but because the document tranche was inconveniently released shortly after we recorded this episode. We will however cover that, along with the spin conspiracy world, next week.
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QAA was known as the QAnon Anonymous podcast.
As always, we are your host, Jake Rakotansky, Liv Akar, and Travis View.
I think it's pretty well established that generally promoting QAnon is very destructive behavior.
I think it's both socially destructive and I think it's personally destructive.
Like we've covered many stories that talk about how people's obsession with QAnon leads to dark paths.
It leads to people like losing long-term personal relationships.
It leads to them losing careers.
It's ugly stuff with no gain.
But I think it should also be said that this isn't the case all the time.
Sometimes when people promote QAnon, it ends with them being elected to Congress or being appointed as a director of the FBI.
So I thought for this episode, we check in on how our QAnon friends in government are doing because they are, some of them are struggling.
But before we talk about that, I want to talk to Liv because she recently was a main character on Twitter over a discussion on ethics of AI usage.
Yes.
Tell me, yeah, Liv, Charlie Kirk's face.
This is, I've seen Charlie Kirk's face on just about, yeah, lots and lots and lots of screws.
What is this meme, first of all?
Yeah, so for those of you who don't know, Charlie Kirk was shot in the neck about a month ago.
And no, but there's been this trend that has been like surprisingly large.
I saw it.
It was even on like getting like a shit ton of likes on like, there was Persian Twitter.
There was a meme that got like 160,000 likes.
And the basic premise is just editing Charlie Kirk's face onto different people's bodies.
A lot of the times it's rappers.
And I think this is in reference to the fact that like Kirk was very openly racist and especially about like not thinking that hip-hop is real music.
But just, you know, there are things in general.
I saw one.
It was a very strange image.
One of the ones that I posted, it's like a man who's like milk is shooting out of his nipples very fast.
He's very buff.
And that's the only thing that I know that someone edited.
Edited his face onto it.
I posted it on Twitter with a caption, left my Gruyere cheese in my bag all day to sort of express my disappointment.
It didn't go bad.
The Gruyere was fine, thankfully, but to express my disappointment with potentially spoiling the delicious cheese.
Now, these are real problems that you're having in your real life.
This isn't some kind of figurative Gruyere.
This is a slice that you have.
What was it?
What was it contained in?
Was it in a Tupperware or plastic?
I gave it to you raw on Twitter.
I believe it was just wrapped in plastic.
It was one of the like, you know, like rich, like too expensive grocery stores.
One of those, they always have the best cheese, I feel like, in North America.
But I posted a couple of them.
I found them very funny.
There was one, if anyone is familiar with the GIF of Drake explaining something to Liliati.
Of course.
Like, oh, and it's so obvious.
And it's they look like they're at the Mac store or whatever.
Yeah.
And so Charlie Kirk was edited onto the face of Liliati in there.
And then my caption for that was, my doctor told me that if I eat dinner at 10 p.m., it'll give me acid reflux.
It's true.
Which it does.
You shouldn't eat so late.
It's not good for you.
It's true.
But yeah, and I was surprised to learn that some people find like the reposting of these child cook images, which are very large, which are very out there, to be a moral boundary that is being crossed, specifically because of water usage, because you are participating maybe in some sort of culture that is destroying the Amazon rainforest with, you know, removing the water, et cetera.
So there are people who are mad at you for encouraging eyes on AI generated memes.
Yes.
And I made the mistake of addressing it directly instead of ignoring it.
Yeah.
So I made a post that got 1.3 million views on Twitter, I believe, which views are fancy.
Oh my God.
So it doesn't really matter.
Yeah, but it's impressive.
Yeah.
Impressive fake numbers.
Yeah.
If you're going to make up numbers, you want it to be in the millions.
An impressive amount of people yelling at me.
And I said, I think one reason people focus so much on AI water use is because it's a completely superfluous commodity.
We would probably be better off without.
Whereas a burger, for instance, that uses way more water than an AI image is something it would suck to do without.
So its use isn't policed.
And attached was an image of a lot of different food products and how much water they're used.
Oh, you really stepped in it here.
So I imagine that people were not, they didn't see this image and go, oh, you know what?
She's got a point.
I'm not going to be mad anymore.
And, you know, steak, for instance, six ounces of beef being 674 gallons of water, which is, I believe, at least, what, two magnitudes, three magnitudes larger than like, is it 500 milliliters?
The problem is, is that AI is getting a lot more streamlined because of how the economies of scale, how much, you know, how many people are investing in it, unfortunately.
And so like individual water usage is actually pretty negligent now relative to like literally every other thing that we do in our lives.
So it's just, it's a silly line of attack.
That's all I'm saying.
Like again, AI is really bad, and especially in relation to how it affects people's understanding of reality, how it affects like artists' ability to get jobs.
I personally don't believe that reposting Charlie Kirk images is stepping on that in any way.
That's my opinion.
Maybe, maybe that's a silly thing to say.
Liv's not generating the images herself.
You know, these are, you've stolen these from other places on the internet.
The water has already been wasted.
So it's actually morally, it's fucked up to not enjoy the Charlie Kirk image.
Now that the water, the water's gone.
You know, we might as well look at the very funny ways that people are like, you know, desecrating Charlie Kirk's grave after he has died.
I think we should give back all the paper in the world.
You know, no more text, no more sheets, no more books, pamphlets, presentations.
We should just give that all back.
It's like kind of like an environmental reset.
I don't know where it would go, but we don't deserve to have it.
But yeah, I mean, broadly speaking, I think that the reaction to this was people thinking that I just like love AI and I use it all the time.
And it does get to a point, like I understand people who like would, like, I just like logged off for like a week or so.
I understand people who would like attempt to clarify, but I feel like if someone is taking me at that bad faith, I really don't have anything to prove to them.
You know, when I argue in my head with people on X, because I don't do it in, I don't actually do it, but I will go through lengthy imagined arguments just so that like my brain and my body can kind of go through it and I can like go move on to the next thing.
You know, one thing I imaginarily sort of respond to my imaginary critics is like, I'm on Twitter for fun.
Like if you think any real business is happening on X since Elon took over, I'm sorry, you're sorely mistaken.
This is, this is the mud pit.
This is where you roll in the mud with the pigs.
If you want to be chewing, hey, with the former, you got to go over onto a different platform, but maybe potentially even blue sky.
But Twitter, the fact that anybody is trying to have any kind of, I don't know, like something that matters happen there.
I don't know.
I feel like it's a lost cause.
It's a bad place to police people, I guess.
I do think that a lot of it is that, like, our water.
I think that I was correct about why people focus on AI.
It's a way of like protecting because, like, yeah, a lot of our like some people responded by saying, like, but we need burgers.
And it's like, no, we actually, factor farming shouldn't exist.
Like, you shouldn't be able to get burgers easily at all.
That's terrible and actually shouldn't exist.
Like, barring the discussion of like whether paying attention to someone's like personal water consumption is like a helpful way of getting to the world where that's not the case.
Like, no, like, absolutely.
Um, there shouldn't be a place where there are like 400 burgers, like, frozen, like, ready to be microwaved.
Like, you know, if a couple of people like drive up to a window, you know, that we don't really, you don't really need a window with like a thousand frozen burgers behind it.
And depending on how many people drive up to that window with, you know, the proper payment methods, uh, that you can walk away, you could just walk away with one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'll say that.
Yeah, definitely.
It's like my personal contribution to the coming environmental collapse.
Only a small part of that is AI.
Like, I've done way, I've done way, way worse than like ever use AI products.
Yeah, every time I'm afraid to even admit it because I have a feeling that there are QA listeners who will reach out rightly after this, after they hear this, and be like, hey, you really shouldn't do that.
But like, you know, sometimes like when you throw away into a trash can, like a little piece of you goes, like, is this supposed to go in here?
I don't know.
You know, I don't know.
But what else am I going to do with it?
I got, I got a couple, I got a couple dead, especially after Halloween.
You know, what am I going to, am I going to organize some kind of pickup or drop off for this?
Canceled, immediately canceled.
We're going to have to bleep out all the stuff.
I do think I just made the mistake of starting any sort of discussion around a very polarizing issue where like a much broader discussion kind of just happened around it.
Travis mentioned earlier that I was a main character, which is in reference to a pretty old tweet.
I can't remember by who about like every day on Twitter, there is a main character.
Your job is to not become the main character.
Yeah.
I think, yeah, I mentioned as we were talking about before the show, I think one of the strangest parts of becoming an internet microcelebridge is the fact that people will create this whole story about like who you are and what you value and what you're secretly doing when you're not online like inside of their heads.
And it's just a wild story based on nothing, but they hold to it very, very dearly.
Yeah, I mean, I used to be ups a lot more upset, I think, about people not liking me and especially people who like used to like me being like, oh, we disagree on this point.
That happened after all the Charlie Kirk stuff where I was saying this shooter was obviously not a Groyper or that nothing indicated that he was a Groyper.
But I do feel like you realize that like a lot of the times when people like you, they also have a false image of you in their head.
And if the only thing stopping them from not liking you is like understanding your brain better.
And it's like, okay, well, well, I don't think that's like.
Sometimes people don't like you.
And it's important to.
I'm a very opinionated person.
I have a lot of opinions on things.
I think I'm able to use nuance.
And I think I would hope that people who like me would treat me with enough respect that they assume if I'm bringing this point up that it's not because I secretly love AI and use it all the time.
But that's life, you know.
Woe is me.
I'm living a fine life.
It's like when Danny Boyle, you know, first, well, and throughout the 28 days, weeks, and years later franchise, he always tried to film it with kind of like the people's like medium of the time.
So this most recent one he filmed with like, I guess, one of the latest iPhones.
And, you know, 28 days later was filled basically with like a Sony handy cam.
That's why it looks like absolute shit if you watch it now and on, you know, like high-def sort of modern screens.
But like, I think that this is, you know, kind of similar.
Like, you're just sort of making comedy with like the medium of the time, which is AI memes.
Yeah.
No, it is it is depressing how just ubiquitous AI is now.
And everything, like you go, you can't Google search without, you know, negative 500 milliliters, like stupid, not something that, like, you should generally use anyways, because it's just bad at telling you the truth a lot of the times, the Google AI summary.
So, I mean, I understand in that respect.
It is depressing.
But yeah, that's, this is a thing that you hope won't be a thing in the next decade or so, because there is a lot of upkeep for AI and there's clearly quite a large bubble there.
It costs a lot to maintain, especially these like very large servers.
So, inshallah, one day people will not have access to ChatGPT, but I don't know.
Yeah, it'll be very, I don't know if it'll just become the new like search engine.
Like, it'll just kind of be, oh, remember when we had Google, we had Bing?
You know, maybe it's just kind of what the search engine will become, that everybody has their own internet in their pocket, you know, that's tailored to them, that's talking to them, that's their friend, actually, and thinks their idea is really great.
Yeah.
I mean, it makes sense that that's where human beings sort of end up going with this.
Now, what ramifications that that has, you know, I think outside of what Liv, you already talked about the misinformation and just sort of like the amount of fooling that one is able to do with the assistance of AI.
I mean, kind of remains to be sort of assessed.
But I have a feeling that that's kind of maybe where it has its most longevity.
And like, like all things internet, we live without these things for thousands and thousands and thousands of years.
Yeah.
It's basically your very own like slave slash customer service person.
Personal assistant.
That's one of the things about AI that makes me so uncomfortable is how nice it is to you.
Yeah.
It shouldn't be that nice.
Like that's a part of like the my boyfriend is AI stuff.
That feels like honestly the worst part is like it's like I'm for like this chat bot has to be nice to me and has to love me.
It makes me deeply unlike as someone who has a negative instinct whenever I can tell that like a customer service person has to be nice to me.
I'm just like, I want to make their life as convenient as possible.
Of course.
Like it's like AI gives you that feeling too of like, you don't have to do this, bro.
You can just help me.
Like, but it's not.
It's made to do that.
It's made to be agreeable.
So it's just everyone gets, yeah, I like, as you're saying, Jake, it's like everyone.
Now your like delusional spiral is automated completely.
And it's this like really nice.
I mean, this has already happened, right?
You saw like stories of people whose like genuine delusions are fed by AI.
And it's like a guy who's being nice.
He's like, you're so smart.
You did actually invent this new like crazy physics theorem that's redefining the structure of the universe.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One of my least favorite things, a couple, whenever like I play around with AI, I'll put in a query or like a question and they'll say, I love that idea or something to that effect.
I'm like, oh, you're lying.
You are, you are math.
You love nothing.
You are not capable.
You don't have inner experiences.
You're being deceitful to me right now by saying that you love anything at all.
And so I just, yeah, I don't appreciate it.
It's like, you don't get that with Google search.
Like, it didn't tell you.
Great query.
I'm so glad that you chose this thing to search.
It's like, that would be weird.
But like for some reason, like, yeah, they, they, uh, yeah, it's like, it is very, very creepy.
I don't like how it's like they claim that they got rid of a, you know, being so syncophantic.
But yeah, it still has this weird, it's like, it's obvious, like, it's just trying to endear itself to you or like in this sort of like, obviously inauthentic way.
Yeah.
But I do think we found we found an AI use case, which is besmirching the memory of Charlie Kirk.
And also, you guys ever see that photo of like Mark Zuckerberg where he's like on his knees and his like tongue is out?
No, no.
I think I did see that one.
That one, yeah.
That's another use case for AI specifically.
Yeah.
Now, let's move on and talk about Marjorie Taylor Green, representative Marjorie Taylor Greene from Georgia's 14th District.
So yeah, recently I saw a lot of headlines that said that Marjorie Taylor Green says that she doesn't believe in QAnon anymore.
Marjorie Taylor Greene renounces QAnon.
And this was based on an exchange she had on The View.
And I hated these as fuck.
It's so lazy reporting.
And it's true that she has like distanced herself basically from like the QAnon branding, but like really, like even now in 2025, she still expresses beliefs in the claims that she obviously got from QAnon.
So before I talk about that, so here's what she said on The View.
Say you don't believe in the QAnon conspiracies anymore.
Oh, I went over that a long time ago.
I mean, you've changed.
Well, no, I haven't changed.
I was the victim just like you were of media lies and stuff you read on social media.
You all have attacked me many times on this show.
We have because of things that you read about me that weren't true clips we've seen.
Or clips you've seen.
She's basically out of context about it.
It's not even true.
Wow.
Amazing.
This is like, oh my God, it's like the reintegration of like QAnon believers like back into like standard celebrity and like modern society.
Like we have to like figure out how to sort of, yeah, like, what do we do with these people that are on record saying all of this crazy shit for like years and years and years.
I do feel like saying Marjorie Taylor Creen doesn't believe in QAnon just in general is like when people, it's like if someone was like, Kanye was to apologize to the Jews, okay?
Like he doesn't believe those sort of things anymore.
Yeah.
And I guess I'm a little confused how you got her renouncing or rejecting QAnon from that when she very specifically said, no, I haven't changed.
Yeah.
And she goes, I went over all that.
Yeah.
I went over it because like, yeah, she kind of like distanced herself from QAnon before, like right before she got sworn in.
She obviously, she did this weird little humiliation ritual.
And obviously it seemed like Republican leadership where like, I was like, listen, you got to distance yourself from QAnon.
This is embarrassing.
So like she did like a little Fox News interview where she said like, oh yeah, I did believe that, but then I was like misled on the internet or whatever.
She didn't specify.
It was very vague terms.
It's really no different than stuff she said in 2020 right before she got sworn in.
So it's just bad reporting.
And the other thing that bothers me is that she still promotes QAnon beliefs this year.
So like on September 24th, this is like less than two months ago.
She tweeted the words, Rachel Chandler.
Now, that doesn't mean much to most people.
I love friends.
She's just like me.
Yeah.
Yes.
But this is, this is a QAnon dog whistle.
She's tweeting out like Elaine Seinfeld.
She's trying to get, yeah, she's trying to start some new sort of like fanfic like ship.
Yeah.
Rachel Chandler.
Rachel and Chandler.
Rachel and Chandler.
We love Rachel and we love Chandler, but Ross was always a goon.
He was always soft, crying all the time.
We would have loved to see Rachel and Chandler get together.
Jennifer Anniston was so hot back then.
And she reminded me of somebody that I dated in high school.
I thought she was so pretty.
But Chandler, a great guy, big Trump fan, very funny.
R.I.P. Crazy what happened to him.
Crazy what happened to him as doctor?
His doctor did something not so good I hear.
Yeah, so Rachel Chandler, she's like an heiress and she was like photographed with a lot of celebrities and stuff.
And she's like affiliated with the Chandler family who owned the LA Times for a while.
And for lots of her career, she worked as like a casting director and like a modeling executive.
And like QAnon, lots of conspiracists accused her of having some sort of connection with Epstein, which is just, there's no evidence of it.
Julie Kay Brown, reporter with Miami Herald, like commented on it called allegations that she has connections with Epstein, just internet conspiracy shit.
So there's just, it's really just a smear.
There's no one that's turned up any evidence.
She has had anything to do with Epstein.
But because Q mentioned Rachel Chandler, QAnon followers got it in their heads that there's some sort of affiliation there.
And again, a couple months ago, Marjorie Taylor Greene promoted a QAnon belief.
She didn't say, I believe QAnon.
She just tweeted Rachel Chandler, which is something she obviously got from QAnon.
So it's like, this is what drives me crazy about like reporting.
This claims that she like she renounced QAnon.
She has it.
Very, very recently.
She's affirmed, done a dog whistle that obviously shows that she still holds QAnon beliefs despite what kind of like wishy-washy way she handles this on the view.
Do you hear that corporate media?
If you hadn't fucking sullied your relationship with Travis View early on by doxing, you know, hiring him and then doxing him against his will, you could have him on your side.
And then your reporting would be a lot more accurate, a lot more accurate.
Some people would say if you had hired Travis, but instead, he's on this podcast where we don't have to fact check him and we could just take him at his word.
And, you know, that's unfortunate for everybody else.
Another interesting development with Representative Green is that she has broken from Trump a bit.
For example, she is unwilling to pretend that the prices on groceries and other items have come down during the second Trump administration.
When the president says there's virtually no inflation and that grocery prices are going down, do you agree with him on that?
No, I go to the grocery store myself.
Grocery prices remain high.
Energy prices are high.
My electricity bills are higher here in Washington, D.C. at my apartment, and they're also higher at my house in Rome, Georgia, higher than they were a year ago.
So affordability is a problem.
And I'm a mom.
My kids are 22, 26, and 28.
That's the generation I worry about the most.
And they're having a very hard time.
It's the world's first reverse Federman.
I can't believe we're even seeing moves like that.
Wow, we're so blessed.
She used to be depressed, and then she like hit her head.
And now she's like, we need to stop the genocide in Gaza.
Although I have a feeling that she's like, when I take the Lexus SUV down to Erwin to get my groceries, the $28 strawberry is now $30.
And we do see these price increases in our daily.
She's like, the kind of tortillas that they only keep in the refrigerated section, bays, English muffins, these are expensive items, seven, eight dollars per, you know?
It's like, well, yeah, of course.
If you're going to Whole Foods, you're going to Erwan, you know.
Yeah, my Whole Foods Swiss career has shot up in price.
Yeah, yeah.
I like it.
A lot of people have talked to you.
She has these takes that like I've seen people go, oh my gosh, is Marjorie Taylor Green gone woke?
I'm kind of reluctant to give it to Green for reasons we'll see soon.
But when Trump was asked about these comments from Green, Trump said that Marjorie Taylor Greene has lost her way.
I don't know what happened to Marjorie.
She's a nice woman, but I don't know what happened.
She's lost her way, I think.
But with all of that, I passed a great big beautiful bill, which is the biggest tax cuts in the history of our country.
So when somebody like Marjorie Taylor Greene, who's now catering to the other side, I don't know what, you know, I guess she's, you know, got some kind of an action, but I'm surprised at her.
But when somebody like Marjorie goes over and starts making statements like that, it shows she doesn't know.
Yeah, I mean, that's just, he's branding.
This is, this is 2022 Biden, right?
It's like, actually, everything's fine.
And we won the midterm.
So actually, nothing is going wrong.
It really is so frustrating how uncomfortable them leadership has been because it's like such an obviously opportune time that they could like take advantage of that in some way.
Because if Trump is literally like Marjorie Dealer Green, I think is like at the very least politically savvy here.
Like she kind of understands.
She can tell which way the wind is blowing on this.
Trump is like lowest approval rating at any point in his presidency, I believe, like first and second term.
She's like, Well, I want to keep going.
I don't want to be associated with this unpopularity.
Yeah, I think, yeah, she realized that you can bullshit people about a lot of things, but you cannot bullshit them about like how far your grocery budget stretches for the month.
Yeah, I think the Dems would absolutely welcome Marjorie Taylor Greene with open arms if she, you know, if she fully denounced Trump and became a public example of like a rep exit, you know what I mean?
Like a reverse, a reverse sort of thing.
I think the Dems absolutely would embrace her, and I think that they should.
You know, I encourage anybody who normalizes like changing your opinion publicly and going, I was wrong about this, actually.
And like, I think that this is probably a better, at least not quite so evil, sort of outlook on leadership.
I don't know.
I encourage that.
What else are we going to do?
I mean, they fucking allied with Dick Cheney.
May he rest in peace.
Dick Cheney is much more evil than Marjorie Taylor Green.
I think Dave Shuny is much responsible for way more deaths.
Yeah.
I wonder what the over-under on nasty comments, if you posted some Dick Cheney AI memes.
I wonder if you would get like, because people should be like angrier about Dick Cheney in some ways.
This man died like warm in his bed, you know, probably surrounded by, you know, surrounded by family members.
That's why it's not fun, though.
Because it's like he won.
He won.
You know, like everyone's in Neocon now.
Yeah.
In American politics.
That's a good point.
Yeah.
Like so.
Charlie Kirk is a much less fortunate ending, I think, than Dick Cheney.
Much less fortunate.
Yes.
Of course.
Yes, of course.
Why can't things be regular?
Just for like a little bit.
Just for a little bit.
It's been because for us, like we, they started talking about Trump and all of this stuff in like 2015, maybe even like 2014 was when the sort of buzz really started going.
And we've been held hostage ever since to like all this, all this news.
It's been a decade.
Yeah.
So there is a question of like what exactly caused this rift between Marjorie Taylor Greene and Trump.
And it may be simply related to personal ambition.
Because according to a fellow member of Congress, AOC, Representative Green is bitter because Trump shut down Green's ambitions to run for Senate.
Here's some tea for you.
MTG, people are like, oh my God, she's saying all these things.
Like what's gotten into her lately?
Oh, like she's bucking against Trump.
She's bucking against the administration.
Marjorie Taylor Green wanted to run for Senate in Georgia.
She wanted to run for Senate earlier this year in the state of Georgia.
She wanted to be the Republican nominee for Senate.
So she was gearing up for that statewide race, and Trump told her no.
Trump said no.
And the White House and Trump land shut down Marjorie Taylor Green's personal ambitions to run for Senate.
And she has been on a revenge tour ever since.
I do like the idea that she accidentally switched sides at like the right time for her political career in relation to Trump.
Just purely, like, I mean, it does make sense.
Marjorie doesn't strike me as a particularly smart woman.
She believes in QAnon.
She has like a gift, a wonderful gift for failing up.
And you meet these people throughout life, like who are just fucking savants at like failing up like no fault of their own.
And you watch as they sort of kind of accept, like they begin to believe that there is kind of some like sort of like divine plan for them.
And then they keep manifesting and they keep winning.
And you're like, wow, I can't believe this person who I thought was an absolute idiot is like, you know, has like achieved all their dreams and then some.
And it's like not enough.
Obviously, I think I think Marjorie Taylor Greene, you know, we joked like very early on when she became a character on this podcast.
We joked about how, you know, one day we might see her on a ticket, but I think she wants to see herself on a ticket one day.
I think she has a future.
I think we'll be seeing more of Marjorie for the next little bit.
Especially like she isn't like, is it like an aura plus 40 or something?
She's torched district.
Like she's there for a while.
Yeah.
I mean, this is why I think it's a little frustrating.
We talk about Marjorie Taylor's opinions.
Like, oh, is she following where the political winds are shifting?
Is she gone woke?
Why is she saying these things?
As if they are like, yeah, they're related to calculated political strategy, as if they might be related to any sort of like shifting principles or even kind of like, you know, shrewdness.
But no, they may be simply related to bitterness over thwarted political ambition.
And in fact, if she was sort of like given the green light to run for Senate, she'd be out there saying, oh, yeah, grocery prices are rock bottom, just as President Trump says.
Yeah, exactly.
Or, you know, potentially maybe some Dem talking points if it seems like that might be more advantageous.
All right, let's talk about the other major QAnon promoter in government that is FBI director Kash Patel.
So he's been struggling with a scandal related to private jet use.
There's been lots of questions throughout.
It hasn't even been a full year yet, but like through this first year, there's been lots of questions about like how Patel has been using these government resources for pleasure.
For example, earlier this year, Patel was photographed with Mel Gibson at a UFC event.
You know, it's like you could argue because Mel Gibson is part of like one of his, one of the White House Hollywood ambassadors.
And, you know, it's like, look, it seems kind of questionable about like why exactly this guy is living it up on the government's dime, it seems like.
I can't imagine what these two talked about together.
I'm looking at the picture right now.
Cash looks so happy.
Mel's looking great, honestly, for him, for him.
Yeah.
He's looking good.
But can you imagine like what kind of alcohol was like floating in the air as he like whispered closely, you know, to Cash's ear?
Like, just went, yeah, well, and you know, the UFC buried under the at the arena here, they talk a lot about it.
Come locker rooms, but it's, but what it really, what it really is, there is a highly advanced cryo cheaper down on epiphany.
Like, can you just imagine like all of the things?
Like, he, it would be the meme of the guy at the guy at the sports game, like, you know, whispering to his, you know, non-interested girlfriend.
No, it'd be like, you talk to me, like, you know, this is really great.
This is the only guy, really, entertainment that has been captured by them yet.
So, you know what I think, though, actually, if I really am imagining this, it's probably something like way more mundane.
Like, he's like, guy on my guy on my crew.
He's like, guy on my crew, Jack, Jack TiVo, guy on my crew, Jack TiVo.
He's serving a life sentence for murdering his wife and daughter.
Do you think there's anything you can do?
He got a real bait.
He did the murder, but she was a real cunt.
Like, can you get, is there anything you can do?
Like, he probably is just trying to get like various criminal friends of his, like, you know, lesser sentences or something like that.
They're shredding powder together, right?
I mean, yeah, they gotta.
Yeah, that feels like the conversations going on in that.
Yeah.
Oh, you think they're going sledding?
I think they, I feel like they probably are.
Cash feels like a guy who would do that as the FBI director.
Honestly, I'm going to take a lot of heat for this.
I love him as the FBI director.
There's nothing.
It kind of makes me feel like a little bit safer that somebody so incompetent who's like way more interested in going to like the fight with Mel Gibson, like ringside, and being like, I don't really want to go to the office.
Like, can I do the FBI from home?
Makes me kind of be like, well, like that must put that like, you know, entity in some kind of disarray.
And anything that makes them less effective, I don't know, I feel like is maybe better, maybe for the best.
It's true.
It's virtually impossible for him to be any more corrupt than, say, Hoover.
So I was like, maybe this is a blessing.
What are the odds that he's fucked up some of the court stuff for the Tyler Robertson trial by just like publicly posting evidence before the trial has started where he's like, yeah, we got his DNA on the gun.
We have X, we have Y.
It's just, he doesn't, I mean, yeah, I do agree.
If the FBI that's not functioning properly because of an incompetent leader is great.
Because he doesn't really want to be there.
Like, look at him in this picture with Mel Gibson.
Look at him in this picture with, I believe, a Kardashian that Travis.
This is his girlfriend.
It's a whole, it's a much, it's much funnier than that.
Oh, yeah.
But we're going to get into it, but he looks so happy and so not interested in running the FBI.
This is where he wants to be.
I mean, yeah, I mean, he lives in Vegas.
He seems like a real estate, let's say.
Like, he likes, he likes the worldly pleasures.
He has definitely gotten high.
Yeah.
He has definitely gotten high and gone to that white castle on the strip.
100%.
He's come home with some kind of crave case.
So, yeah, this recent controversy happened because he reportedly used a $60 million jet owned by the FBI to travel to State College, Pennsylvania, where his girlfriend, the 20-something country singer Alexis Wilkins, performed the Star-Spangled Banner at a wrestling event that took place at Penn State University.
My favorite detail about her is I believe she's like Swiss.
Like she's European immigrant who decided to become like a Texas style country singer.
Yeah.
Talk about assimilation.
I just love the idea of like being born in like Switzerland and like that's your calling.
I think it's incredible.
And you know, I want to be, I want to be boyfriend.
Do you think they got together after or before?
Like did he use his clout as like I'm FBI director, by the way.
Before, you know, I believe they got together before he became FBI director, but boy, she saw the potential.
She saw the potential.
She believed in him.
He had some kind of like probably special security clearance.
Like he definitely would be the kind of guy in the movies who's like, hey, you want to know where Jimmy Hoff is buried?
You know, like one of those, like one of like that kind of FBI director, which I got to say, I know I'm going to take heat on this, but I love it.
I love actually that he wasted $60 million of the FBI's money to fly to like a college event so that he could watch his Swiss girlfriend be like, and I'm dating the director of the FBI.
You know, whatever her, I don't know what her country music sounds like.
It's not very good.
It's quite bad.
Yeah.
This particular performance was just the Star Spangled Banner right before like a pro wrestling kind of performance.
But yeah, interesting relationship.
Cash looks like he's wearing like the FBI like cross of bathing ape.
Like he looks like he's like sort of like launch, like maybe soft launching like some stylish like FBI drip.
And this looks like something that would cost like maybe 10,000 VC in NBA 2K.
So this is particularly interesting because Patel has been a vocal critic of government officials using official planes for personal business.
In a 2023 episode of his podcast, Cash's Corner, Patel said that he wanted to, quote, ground Chris Ray, the previous FBI director, his private jet travel that he pays for with taxpayer dollars to hop around the country.
And now he's doing this himself.
So he's like, he will stop, you know, the use of government jets for private use right when he like releases the Epstein files on day one.
It's just something he said.
Like all these guys, they didn't really think they'd win.
So they thought they didn't really think that it was like, well, I make sure I, when I say things, I can be consistent once I actually get in.
They that planned this far, yeah.
And this one, it's like there's less of an excuse.
Like, Trump won, it's like, yeah, you shouldn't have thought you won, you would win.
Like, no one, no rational, like, it's Bill Mitchell.
That's the guy who thought that Trump was going to win and the polls were cucked.
Like, every rational person is like, well, no, this isn't going anywhere.
This one, you might have, you should have maybe thought a bit more about the possibility that, especially in this context, that Joe Biden wouldn't get re-elected.
Yeah.
I wonder what happened to Bill.
I wonder what Bill Mitchell is up to.
That's a name I haven't thought about in a while, Liv.
Yeah, I know.
Because I guess he isn't banned.
He must be posting on Twitter again.
I'm sure he is.
I have a feeling like I also wouldn't be surprised if he's like been like, I don't know, like kind of like absorbed by his internet, like sucked into his computer, like stay tuned or something like that.
And he's like having some kind of like lawnmower man experience, like inside of the internet, like becoming like some kind of like all-powerful digital being.
I think he was, wasn't he a DeSantis guy for a while?
Yeah.
I think so.
Yeah.
No, he's he's like, I'm looking at his engagement and it's, it's like wash.
It's like 100 likes.
This one's got 20.
This one's got 38 likes.
Yeah.
Those are like Rakotansky numbers he's putting up.
It's like he was too early, I think.
Like we're living in Bill Mitchell's world now and like he has nothing to show for it.
Oh yeah, that fucking sucks.
Can you imagine?
It's like DJ Keemstar, if anyone knows of that.
He's like insane evil drama farmer.
He wanted Trump to run for president in 2014.
Like he understood the moment in like a profound way and he's got nothing to show for it.
Wow.
Actually, a new reporting on this that just broke in the last hour from Wall Street Journal.
What?
So yeah, after flying an FBI jet, after flying this FBI jet to this wrestling match to see his girlfriend sing, then he flew her back to her home in Nashville.
And then after this, this is that WSJ is just now reporting.
Patel took the jet to a Texas hunting resort called the Boondoggle Ranch.
He is hopping from Pennsylvania to Tennessee to Texas on the government's dime during a shutdown.
Wow.
No worries, babe.
We can take the jet.
We can take the FBI jet.
Oh my God.
I mean, yeah, of course.
That's like, yeah, TFBI jet.
Maybe we get up there.
I'll tell you who killed JFK.
We'll see.
Oh, my God.
This guy is like.
He's fantasizing and going back and like going back and looking at 11-year-old Cash like square in the eyes and being like, dude, you have no fucking idea what we're about to do together.
He's like, you're going to be flying hot Swiss country singers back home on your FBI jet.
Why?
You might ask?
Because you're the director of the FBI.
The kid would be like, um, come on, man.
Like, like, it's just, you know.
Yeah.
The other funny part of this story is that Patel got apparently really mad inside the FBI after this became known, which is like the flight path of the plane of like all planes is public information.
And it's doubly so When it's a government-owned plane, but for some strange reason, Patel seemed to blame an FBI employee for the fact that this was released, one 27-year veteran of the FBI named Steven Palmer, which led to his firing over the issue.
So, here is the reporting on this from Bloomberg Law.
The FBI forced out a senior official overseeing aviation shortly after director Kash Patel grew outraged about revelations of his publicly available jet logs indicating he'd flown to see his musician girlfriend perform, said three people familiar with the situation.
Steven Palmer, a 27-year veteran of the FBI, became the third head of the critical incident response group, which includes FBI pilots, to be fired or removed in Patel's short regime, adding to a year filled with retributive terminations.
Patel was angered this week by social media posts and news stories calling attention to his use of an FBI jet that arrived in State College, Pennsylvania, where his girlfriend, country music artist Alexis Wilkins, sang the national anthem at a wrestling match, said the individuals who spoke anonymously out of fear of retaliation.
So she sang the national anthem at a college wrestling match?
No, no, this was a wrestling event that was actually originally founded by the late Hulk Hogan.
So it's like, it's a, yeah, the spectacle kind of pro-wrestling.
Got it, got it, got it.
Palmer was told he needed to immediately resign or be fired, which the individuals said was at least partially connected to Patel's fury over the negative media cycle on his personal travel.
Palmer's position included supervising the FBI's aviation units, but Patel's flight schedule was readily traceable through online tracking services, and he reposted photos of himself with Wilkins at the event on his personal X account.
The people familiar with the matter said they were baffled as to why Patel might have blamed Palmer for the travel details.
So this is, I mean, I am so, it's so fucking embarrassing to be ruled by these fucking morons.
This guy doesn't even know he's the FBI director.
He doesn't know that the flight path of like all flights in American airspace is publicly trackable.
He wasn't aware that anyone could find this out if they just have, you know, if they go into the right website or have the right equipment.
I mean, Jesus Christ.
Yeah, it's so much, it's so much more embarrassing than like traditional, like evil authoritarian American politicians.
So, you know, like the classic like kind of like there will be blood, like oil baron type guy.
Like it's Kash Patel and fucking Mark Zuckerberg.
That's the like economic political domination matrix of American society.
Now, speaking of Alexis Wilkins, Patel's girlfriend, she has actually launched three federal defamation suits against people who, in her telling, spread a false moss honeypot/slash Israeli spy narrative about her online.
You know, she is, you know, she's an attractive young woman.
There's, you know, there's a joke in technology and government that if your girlfriends attend, she's an asset.
So some people like took this a little too literally and they started saying that she is some sort of max spy who's entrapping Kash Patel.
I do think, yeah, that is just everyone is QAdon now.
Everyone does conspiracies, the left and the right.
It's just, that's all people have, I guess.
But I will say, if you don't want people thinking you're an Israeli spy, I don't think suing people about them accusing you of being an Israeli spy is the move.
Well, and like, I don't think like Israel would need a spy to get this information.
I think that they could probably like write Cash an email and be like, hey, what do you got on this?
And he'd be like, let me get back to you.
You know, I think they could probably just ask him.
And he's like, I didn't know.
I wasn't supposed to tell them that.
Just like I didn't know I wasn't supposed to use the company Jet to go to the wrestling show in Pennsylvania.
In the complaint, she says that she's American-born, Christian, has never been to Israel and has no ties to any intelligence service, which is immediately not true.
You're dating the FBI director.
You're on this plane.
You're on the FBI train.
That's a tie to an intelligence service.
She also argues that the spy claim is defamatory per se because it accuses her of serious crimes like espionage and treason and harms her career and reputation.
She is seeking $5 million in each case in a jury trial.
Nice.
This career, by the way, like 10,000 monthly streams on Spotify.
Okay.
It's like this, if anything, this attention is probably good for your career.
This is very good.
Yeah.
You're not quite, you're not quite at the stage where like, yeah, smears online actually hurt you.
These lawsuits are against the conservative influencers Kyle Serafin and Elijah D. Schaefer, and also the former political candidate Sam Parker.
So among the posts listed in the complaint is one in which Parker asked, why is a 24-year-old devout Christian hooking up with an Hindu Indian old enough to be your dad at a Christian nationalist conference?
Weird.
The complaint said another post reaffirmed his intention on February 28th, 2025, when he suggested Ms. Wilkins' presumed Israeli status is why the Epstein files have not yet been publicly released.
Again, this is like, I think we can look to Trump to understand why the Epstein files have not been publicly released.
Yeah.
Yeah, guys.
I don't know.
It's funny when it's like you have an analysis that's like, it's very easy for it to be pretty correct about like, yeah, Trump is evil and connected to Israel and Israel is bad and shouldn't have any influence.
But like they decided to make the stupidest fucking connections.
I guess because the conspiracy theorists is never enough.
It's never enough to like get the actual things going on with the Epstein's going on with Epstein, which like I remember explaining Epstein stuff to my friend in like 2018.
And I was like, but this is like real, actually.
Like I know that this sounds ridiculous.
That it's like, yeah, he was caught with like a minor who's naked and overdosing and then he got like a six-month sentence.
I know that sounds weird, but it's actually what happened.
But like that's not enough for them.
It has to be like, yeah, no, the only possible reason why Kash Patel, who is Hindu as well, by the way, I don't know why that's relevant.
There's no way that he could be having sex with a woman in her 20s unless it was literally Israel.
There's no way that like he would use his like position and like, you know, company perks to try to like score a babe who, you know, his friends are like, she's out of your league, bro.
Yeah, like, do you think Kash Patel is dating a woman his age?
Like that surprises you that he's dating a 24-year-old?
It doesn't surprise me.
Yeah, not at all.
He's like a young-ish like single FBI director with like a little bit of sweat, you know, a little bit of podcast swag.
You know, like he's just, of course, like, of course.
I feel like we, you know, we all knew like somebody like Kash Patel in high school.
Like it, I don't know.
It makes very much sense that he's rolling the way he is.
And like I said two other times before on this episode, I'm a fan.
So like moving on to progress in the January 6th investigation.
So an ongoing mystery is who exactly planted pipe bombs near the DNC and the RNC offices in Washington, D.C. on January 5th, 2021, just the night before January 6th happened.
Now, what was the deal with it?
What was, I don't know the exact specifics of this, but they found pipe bombs late, like a day later, or did they find them on Jan 6 and thwart an attack?
They were discovered on Jan 6.
And yeah, they were diffused.
There might have been a timer incident.
I don't think they released all the details about the bombs because they didn't want to give too much away.
But yeah, they fortunately did not go off.
But some mysterious person wearing wearing a hoodie planted a couple pipe bombs.
All right.
So the FBI has offered a half a million dollar reward for identifying the person who did this.
Well, the right-wing outlet, The Blaze, recently made a very exciting announcement that through a computer-assisted forensic analysis, they say they have identified a suspect.
A computer assisted.
I feel like I know where this is going.
Yeah, did they just like plug a picture into AI and they were like, Chat GBT, identify this woman?
They shockingly said that the suspect is a former Capitol police officer, which I won't name for reasons which will be obvious.
So right before the story was published, Blaze Media CEO Glenn Beck really hyped it up.
There is a breaking news story that hopefully is coming out tomorrow.
You'll understand once you hear the story.
This is one of the biggest stories.
I think it is the biggest scandal of my lifetime, maybe in the last hundred years.
It is monstrous what Steve Baker is going to report on.
And we're going to give you a little bit of background.
I can tell you this.
There is a major development in the January 6th pipe bomber investigation.
Blaze News has the exclusive because it is Steve's reporting that has brought this to attention.
And unfortunately, its lead suspect is at the highest levels of government.
So lots of things there.
First of all, I would not call a former Capitol police officer someone at the highest level of government.
It goes right to a bit above the middle, guys.
It goes right to the person who has the highest power amongst people who have no power at all.
It's like, that's right.
We're talking about people who shoe someone if they loiter a little too close to the Capitol.
Oh, yeah, there's a lot of showmanship going on here.
I haven't seen Glenn Beck in a while.
He's looking more and more like Guy Fieri.
Yeah, I see that.
I love the country music too.
Like America is like a fake country to me entirely.
And the fact that country music is like that ingrained in right-wing media.
I know I understand Alberta does exist.
So it is in Canada too, but it just doesn't seem real to me.
It seems like a parody.
Like, if we're not part of the like nine to five rat race, like we're two varying levels of failure or success, we're all sitting like two to three feet away from like a laptop that's facing us with like a little green light and a camera that's recording.
Like we're all just like a fake news background away from just like everybody is like trying to be a newscaster of some of some kind or some kind of presentation.
Like everybody is sort of the arbiter of their own public access channel.
A newscaster for people when they are like bored and they want to do chores.
Basically.
Yeah, for the people, by the people.
So yeah, so the reporting was published.
It named a woman, a former Capitol police officer, as the person who allegedly did this.
There's no good evidence, but this is what they said.
And then the claim was amplified by like a bunch of people, like members of Congress, representatives of Barry Lautermilk, Anna Paulina Luna, Thomas Massey, like lots of people without really looking too deeply into the reporting, just claimed it was credible.
And so what is this evidence?
So apparently they use what they called gate analysis, G-A-I-T, as in walking gate analysis.
Oh, this is something that all of the trans investigators use where they're like, clearly this like cisgender man has like a female gait.
And if you draw, you know, they're walking in a way that's identifiably.
So they're just, they're doing that, but for personal identity, I guess.
Some people, before there was this wild claim that it was like Marjorie Taylor Greene, for some reason, they think the pipe bomber has a female gait.
I don't know what the hell they're getting.
Oh, yes.
So they are breaking it like that.
Talking about gait?
What?
Yep.
So, yeah, they examined footage of the named suspect playing soccer and compared it to how the pipe bomber walked, according to the video we have.
And from this, they claimed it was the same person.
This is like, again, just real bullshit pseudoscience nonsense.
I'm sorry.
When God creates the NPC characters in our GTA, whatever it is, he only, there's only so many like walk animations that you can have.
Like, I don't think it's ever, ever going to be a thing where you'll be able to videotape somebody walking and they'll be like, scan the database, like, live agar.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's just, it's a completely even if you were writing like a science fiction movie and you're like, okay, and like, it's like minority report too, and they're like, okay, this time around, the police have a scanner and it can sort of like videotape somebody's walk.
And that walk allows you to identify anybody potentially in like the civilian pool.
Like you, as the writers of the movie, be like, uh, I don't know.
Can we come up with something better than that?
Like, it doesn't even make sense as like a fictional story.
However, the story seemed to fall apart after the FBI issued a statement indicating that their investigation is ongoing, which many took to mean that they're not buying this accusation.
Yeah, just being like, for no reason at all, we're still looking for the person, by the way.
In case any of you know anything, just a reminder.
Just re-upping this, just bumping this.
In fact, Glenn Beck himself seemed to like back away from the story.
That was published on his own outlet, but retraction has not yet been published as of his recording.
But this is what Beck said.
So, Blaze News arranged for a forensic gate analysis.
This isn't guesswork.
This is a scientific algorithm that compares the knee flexing, the hip extension, the step length, the cadence, and variants.
It's like a digital footprint of how a person moves through space.
Well, the software returned a 94% match between the bomber's walk and that of the walk of a former Capitol Police officer who I'm not going to name here.
And I'll tell you why I'm not going to name her here.
When the analysts that were human looked at it, they put the match closer to 98%.
Now, let me stop here and tell you why I'm not telling you the name of this person because a match is not guilt.
The comparison is not proof.
This person of interest is still a citizen whose life carries the same dignity and presumption of innocence as yours and mine.
And I can't tell you what is true in this story yet.
They used a scientific algorithm that if you type it funny, will give you like an apple pie recipe.
I think they used an algorithm on Glenn Beck's voice to even just watching his like wave playback, like as I could see it on my own like recording software.
I'm like, they have caught this guy running through some kind of like AI.
I bet he's got a hamster or something in the background of his studio that's on one of those wheels that's like squeaking all the time.
And they have to like run him through like some kind of like crazy post-processing to like, you know, make it sound like he's just in a regular news studio.
Yeah.
I mean, this is really fucking shocking.
It's like, I'm surprised that even if they said, oh, 96, like 95, 96%, well, so you're like wrong one in 20 times.
Like, and you're, you're accusing a person of being a violent terrorist.
And then this, this accusation was amplified by members of Congress and lots of people with large followings.
Like, if this really falls apart as much as it looks like it's falling apart, I mean, this is a slam dunk libel lawsuit.
I, I mean, I feel like libel is like libel is like normally pretty hard to successfully sue for in the United States because of the First Amendment.
But God, this is, this is really shocking.
I mean, I don't know.
It's so stupid.
And it's so fucking slimy too to like use your listeners like, you know, patriotism or belief that somebody is innocent until proven guilty to fucking like walk back your bullshit fucking, you know what I mean?
To be like, well, and look, this person Dill does still have rights.
Yeah, only since you found out that there's like a potential that you could get in trouble for like posting this.
Do you care about like what their rights are?
Now, before we were talking about Marjorie Taylor Greene becoming wokeified in some unexpected ways, but on the whole, she still remains pretty loyal to President Trump, as well as J Sixers, who have since felt the long arm of the law for their decisions in the weeks and months following the 2020 election.
On Monday this week, Green tweeted.
Thank you, At POTUS, for pardoning the 2020 alternate electors.
They fought for election integrity and were punished harshly by a politically weaponized government.
But please free Tina Peters.
Exclamation point, exclamation point.
She's a gold star mom.
Is that a term?
Gold star mom?
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Her son.
Yeah, veteran son.
I see.
It's when you've never not been a mom before.
Right.
No, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's not a chart of like how good you're doing as a mom.
No, it's no, it refers to the fact that her son was a veteran who died.
Oh, interesting.
She's a gold star mom wrongly convicted and serving time in prison.
She is a political hostage in America.
Exclamation point.
Now, I'm sure many of you remember the somewhat sad and disturbing case of Tina Peters, the Messa County, Colorado clerk, who was sentenced to nine years in prison for her role in breaching voting machines.
This was, she claimed, in an effort to prove the fraud that President Trump and his lawyers were alleging took place across the country.
Now, in case you don't remember what got Peters in so much trouble, I'm just going to read this quote as it appears in the Yahoo News article because it's so funny on its own.
And I quote: Prosecutors allege that Peters stole a county employee security badge to help a man associated with My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell gain access to the county's voter systems.
What happened to Mike?
He was like the day one like CEO for Trump.
Because now all the big CEOs have like been the knee, but like he's a, I feel like he needs more.
Like, he should be able to be doing crime in the Trump administration if everyone else is making money.
I agree.
I think we should give him a very important position, much like Kash Patel.
I think we should, in fact, maybe he should replace Kash Patel as the head of the FBI.
Yeah, if Cash has to step down, he's the second, he's the second slot.
He's the batters up next.
A man associated with My Pillow CEO.
If ever there was a sentence to further disconnect my brain from reality, that surely, surely was one.
Tina Peters has maintained her innocence and patriotism, much to her detriment.
I don't know if you guys remember, we did an episode on this a while ago, but she severely pissed off the judge in her case and earned what Trump's current Justice Department believes was an unfair sentence.
In fact, when I went to check in on Tina in the wake of pressure on Donald Trump to sling her apart, I unearthed a couple of interesting details that have taken place since we last talked about her case.
In March of this year, Trump's Justice Department actually tried to get involved with the Peters case, essentially claiming that the judge was unnecessarily harsh on Tina because of her political beliefs.
They also maintained that the judge unfairly denied her bail while she continues her appeals process.
In May on Truth Social, Trump himself gave her a shout out, posting, Radical left Colorado Attorney General Phil Weiser ignores illegals committing violent crimes like rape and murder in his state and instead jailed Tina Peters, a 69-year-old Gold Star mother who worked to expose and document the Democrat election fraud.
Tina is an innocent political prisoner being horribly and unjustly punished in the form of cruel and unusual punishment.
This is a communist persecution by the radical left Democrats to cover up their election crimes and misdeeds in 2020.
The same Democrat Party that flies to El Salvador to try to free an MS-13 terrorist is cruelly imprisoning, perhaps for life, a grandmother whose brave and heroic son gave his life for America.
Colorado must end this unjust incarceration of an innocent American.
I am hereby directing the Department of Justice to take all necessary action to help secure the release of this hostage being held in Colorado prison by the Democrats for political reasons.
Free Tina Baders now.
Surprised they took him this long.
It's crazy.
That's a lot of words.
That's a lot of words for Tina.
It's more than Mamdani, right?
When we did Mamdani, he was just like, oh, man.
Yeah, it sure is.
Ellipses.
Now, some might argue that the whole point is moot anyways, since Tina was convicted for state crimes as opposed to federal ones.
So even if Trump did pardon her, it would not get her out of serving her nine-year prison sentence.
I didn't know that.
So it's only federal crimes the president has authority over.
Yes.
I see.
So she's fucked, actually, Damn Fortina.
Yeah, because as we'll see, there is no intention from the Colorado state officials to overturn her to the feds or to reduce her sentence or anything.
Now, Tina herself appears to have latched onto a somewhat bizarre theory that because she will be serving as a witness in an upcoming federal probe looking into 2020 voter fraud, that she is therefore deserving of federal protection.
Or in this case, you know, living the good life in a cushy Fed lockup instead of the medium security women's facility in Pueblo, Colorado, where she is now.
So I think the conditions are probably, I think it most likely sucks.
So gotcha.
Right.
So she's looking for that Ghelane Maxwell deal.
She is looking for that sweet deal.
Honestly, my opinion, free her.
What?
She's going to steal another election?
Like, probably not.
I don't think so.
Probably not.
Yeah.
I don't think she's a threat to society.
So her lawyers are also using this habeas petition to advertise new depositions they allegedly took over the summer from anonymous Venezuelan informants who they claim provide evidence that Dominion and SmartMatic are in fact able to rig elections.
So like they're still doing the same thing.
Like so actually Liv, she hasn't learned.
Her lawyers are literally like, no, no, no, we've got new depositions and that means there's going to be new pros, which means she's going to need to be in witness protection.
So like you got to move into the cushy Fed joint where she can make the tomato stew.
So despite all of this, at a recent hearing, federal magistrate Judge Scott Varholik ruled that the depositions would not be allowed to be used in Peters' case.
And furthermore, he hadn't heard anything from the Justice Department regarding a transfer request.
Even if it comes, it's up to the state of Colorado.
And Governor Jared Polis and Attorney General Phil Weiser are completely in agreement.
I believe the quote was synced up that Peters will serve her time.
So it really doesn't look good for her at all.
It's interesting that Trump is bothering with this.
I mean, I guess the lesson there is that Trump is like loyal to people who are willing to break the law for him as a sign of like, if you do this and you get caught, like if I have anything to say about it, I will get you off.
And in this case, it costs him nothing because he could be like, I hereby pardon Dana Peters, wonderful woman.
And it'll mean nothing.
And then he'll be like, they're keeping her like they're not listening to my pardon.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, it's like, it's really interesting that he's like, by sticking to this theory and claiming that she's been wrongfully convicted, she also seems to be sinking in the opportunity for early release or parole.
They usually look for someone who's like acknowledged that they done wrong and repentant.
So she's so in on this, she's like guaranteeing that she's going to serve her full sentence.
Free her.
That's my final message.
Yeah, final, yeah, final thoughts, Travis?
After this wonderful, this wonderful news roundup.
No, let's have Tina Peters and Kash Patel switch positions and Have Marjorie Taylor Greene and Ghelaine Maxwell switch positions.
Let's put Ghelane Maxwell in Congress.
Let's see what she does.
Yeah.
I mean, it's not worse than the president, you know.
Like, I mean, yeah, what the fuck, exactly.
What the fuck is like Ghelane Maxwell gonna do in Congress?
Protect pedophiles or protect the Epstein files?
They're already doing that.
Look, folks, if we've learned one thing here at the QAA podcast, it's that anybody can be in any position of government.
You don't have to have one smart brain in your body to be at the highest level of powers in the richest country in the world.
I hope everybody has a wonderful rest of your night sleeping in your pitiful, your pitiful beds.
Hopefully, you know, you're, you know, not in twin beds, you know.
Maybe at least you got a full size, hopefully not a futon.
You know, it's comfortable, you know.
But, you know, while the kings and queens, you know, asleep on a pile of mattresses in their castles.
Enjoy your non-congressional futons, everyone.
Yeah, enjoy having to drive like three hours to the college upstate to see your girlfriend play.
Oh, you have a graduate degree, your PhD, doesn't matter.
That's not who gets to run things in this country.
I didn't even know the FBI had a private jet.
I guess it makes sense if you think about it.
Why not?
And if Taylor Swift's got one, I think Kash Patel's probably definitely.
I wonder if he's the first FBI director to get muddied.
Certainly not.
Obviously, we cut that out, of course.
That's all that's that's a Julian joke.
And I'll leave.
I'll leave the Julian jokes to Julian.
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Liv, yeah, I stream Tuesday, Thursday, Sunday at noon approximately Pacific time at twitch.tv/slash live agar.
Nice.
Go check it out.
How's that been going?
It's good.
Yeah, we're doing, we're doing well.
Especially when Hassan isn't streaming.
Those are those Sundays I stream a lot more because he's usually his breakday.
There's a little overlap in the audience, but it's been fun.
In the vacuum of Hassan, Liv stands alone.
Exactly, exactly.
I stand above the rest.
Yeah, it's basically just me rambling for six hours straight, but just like whatever.
Damn, that's crazy.
How do you ramble for six hours straight?
You know, I had a panic attack during a live show.
I can't remember.
I think maybe in Colorado.
Just talking for like 30 minutes was enough to make me run out of air and panic.
I think you get used to it because like a live show is different because you can see everyone.
But for me, it's just a chat and it's just like a viewer mount.
And it's much easier to comprehend.
Like a thousand people listening to you theoretically on the internet is like way less difficult.
And you do have a chat so you can kind of riff off of them.
And I think you just get used to it eventually.
It's like podcasting.
You just get used to talking.
And you now have overcome the now that you've like defeated becoming the main character on Twitter for a day, you know, you now handling a Twitch chat.
Because that was always my thing.
And when we were doing streaming during the pandemic, is like everybody in the Twitch chat would be like, this is awesome, man.
So funny.
Love you guys.
Yada yada yada.
And then there'd be one guy that's like, just fucking suck.
It's like Happy Gilmore, the guy that's like, jackass.
You know, there's like one person there who's like, like a troll.
And like, I would just like obsess about it.
I think the difference is that like on Twitch, it's not like Twitter.
You'd like have control over the discussion and what everyone is saying.
It's like your little petty fiefdom.
So you can exile, you can exile anybody who's not acting.
Yeah, you can exile you for 10 years.
You know, on Twitter, like people coach what you're saying you can do about it.
So it's very different, especially at a lower level if it's not like one of the massive, you know, Hassan, 20,000 viewer chats.
Right.
Well, go watch Live on Twitch and don't be a, don't be an adversary.
Don't be afraid.
Don't hate watchers.
Don't serve, don't get yourself a 10-year ban.
Just participate healthily.
We've also got a website that's qaapodcast.com.
Listeners, until next week, may the deep dish bless you and keep you.
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Do you want to work with us on that?
Director Richardson.
I belong to the gentleman from California.
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