In 2012, rumors began to circulate through the Hollywood elite that a new screenplay surrounding the events of 9/11 was in the works. A committee of truthers entrenched in the entertainment industry were eager for the “real” story to be told, in the hopes that President Obama might see the film and open a new investigation into the tragic attacks. The script had been lost to the ages until Liv traveled into the far reaches of the internet and retrieved a copy. We’re going to dive into how the film came to be, who was attached to star, and perhaps… force Travis to act in a couple scenes.
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Welcome to the QAA Podcast, Premium Episode 249, Nine Angry Elevens.
So that's good because we've got a very confusing thing.
Episode 249, Nine Angry Elevens.
I know, I thought about that when I was making the title, but the title was so funny and jokey.
The title is good enough.
It pleased me so much.
This has turned you into Tommy Numbers.
This is actually, this is a Tommy Numbers podcast now, actually.
2-4-9 is 9 Angry 11s.
It's a Jakey Numbers, Jakey Numbers is gonna be the new show going forward.
As always, we are your hosts, Jake Brokatansky, Liv Aker, Julian Numbers, and Travis View.
Today we have a very special movie episode, but it's not going to be your average movie night premium.
This film, unfortunately, never made it to the silver screen.
Yeah, we're graduating into movies that never actually became movies.
Yeah, they never made it.
We've now degraded so much that, forget it.
I mean, next up we'll just cover things coked up people have pitched at parties.
I'd love to do a podcast about that, actually.
Yeah, I'm not surprised.
I mean, that kind of is already what we've, like, that's at the level of what we've been covering anyways.
Oh, yes.
There's no way there wasn't, like, a dinner plate party around the writing of this script.
Yeah, or like just like kind of like a backroom bong sesh.
Probably a combo.
Probably a few nights where they alternated between those two.
This movie never made it to the silver screen, despite having backing from Hollywood stars like Martin Sheen, Woody Harrelson, John Heard, and legendary director Ed Asner, who said to be fairly low budget, more of a passion project that resulted from the individual actors' political affiliations.
And yes, it was going to be about 9-11, as you may have guessed from the episode title.
And it was meant to blow the lid off the supposedly mounting list of lies and falsehoods surrounding the United States government's involvement in the attacks.
So strap in as we do a deep dive into the 9-11 truth or film that never was.
Even take a look at the screenplay which circulated following the film's cancellation in late 2012.
2012!
Oh, yeah.
That's amazing.
It's really felt like it should have been a couple years earlier.
I don't know what they were they were doing there.
Maybe a last minute Hail Mary sort of thing for this type of like lib conspiracy theorist.
Yeah.
You got to choke this out before Obama's in office.
Yeah, definitely.
I mean, like Loose Change was released in 2005.
That's a good year to release a 9-11 movie.
2012, you've missed the boat.
It's good that Loose Change came first, because I think the writer of this film watched Loose Change and then just inserted the dialogue from that movie into, you know, his character's mouth for this one.
It is genuinely very close to that, as he talks about the script in other places.
Dreaming about blackbagging Hillary and making her watch Loose Change at a site in Hungary?
Yeah, that's kind of it.
Essentially, the premise of this movie is that Hillary Clinton walks into a room and she's like, alright, the president couldn't be here so he sent me, I've got lunch in an hour, what have you got?
And then proceeds to get yelled at by truthers for 45 minutes.
That's kind of the vibe of the movie.
That's already very unrealistic because she has like zero tolerance for criticism and has been very condescending to young voters who've brought up topics.
Well, they're not critical of her.
They're basically making the case and, you know, spoiler, Hillary seems like maybe she's going to come around.
Oh, OK.
This is a cool Hillary then.
Let's go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a cool Hillary.
You'll see.
Those who are unaware, 9-11 conspiracies and the Bush presidency were much more connected with left-wing anti-war sentiments, which meant they had the possibility of being partisan in the complete opposite direction than today.
When Obama was elected to office, for instance, there seemed to be some optimism by certain truthers that the new administration could potentially reveal some of the state secrets surrounding 9-11 hidden by Bush.
Listen, we all had hopes, right?
That was the whole campaign.
I get it.
I get it.
We thought he might prosecute the guy.
Some hopes are different than others.
Okay.
Cause I was 11, so I was not aware, but that was like a genuine belief of like, they're going to lock him up for, for war crimes.
Kind of.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
No, no, no.
For sure.
Like when it was revealed that he would not, he was going to choose to not prosecute.
It was an outrage because, you know, quite frankly, there were some insane crimes that happened during the Bush years that should have been the first proper prosecution of a, of an American president in the modern age.
And now W is like your drunk uncle who shows up at, you know, events and stuff and he's smiling and having a good time.
Given the different sort of layout of where conspiracy theories were within American culture at the time, it appears there were a surprisingly large amount of influential members of Hollywood, which generally has fairly pro-Democrat liberal sympathies, who were appalled at American imperialism during the Bush admin, and viewed Bush as the architect of 9-11, and believed they could leverage their cultural clout to get Obama to hold those war criminals to account.
In 2009, for instance, Charlie Sheen would publicly urge Obama to look into Bush covering up the truth surrounding 9-11, in a video that was released by Alex Jones and Infowars, got at least 4 million views on YouTube.
Good afternoon, Mr. President.
I come to you today representing the families of the victims of September 11th, as well as millions of my fellow Americans.
Hopefully by now you've had a chance to read my letter to you, 20 minutes with the President.
And if not, at least had its contents brought to your attention.
We have questions, Mr. President.
Lots of questions.
A lot of them are detailed in my letter.
But trust me, there are hundreds more questions.
As my letter chronicles, sir, the 9-11 Commission itself says they were lied to, deceived, and essentially prevented from carrying out a real investigation.
People of the United States and the world demand the truth, sir.
We have to continuously ask questions.
That's what a patriot does.
That's what a true American does.
We ask questions.
You, sir, have the power, as well as the responsibility, to initiate a truly independent congressional investigation into the events of 9-11, as well as its aftermath.
We want our country back, Mr. President.
Therefore, I'm not just calling on you and your team.
I'm calling on each and every American citizen to wake up, stand up, and demand the truth.
Okay, my favorite part about this clip is that Liv captured it on her computer, so you can see her tabs at the top.
One of them just says, Lizard, and the next one says, Joe Biden, Gay Bath, and then just cuts off.
Those are most of my favorites to have, actually.
That is the intro song to my Twitch stream, which is a remix of Joe Biden saying gay bathhouses a bunch of times.
Fantastic stuff.
Oh, wonderful.
I mean, this was rebranded as InfoWars later, right?
Like, Sheen released this directly, and then InfoWars is re-releasing it?
As far as I'm aware, it was posted to the InfoWars YouTube in 2009.
And the letter was published on InfoWars as well.
Wow.
So I'm fairly certain it was a pretty close collaboration.
This was when there was much more, I suppose, subtlety to Alex Jones.
And of course, I'm talking about subtlety in Alex Jones terms.
Let's not get carried away with that argument.
It's also unfortunate that this guy then went completely off the fucking rails.
I love watching stuff like this because it reminds me, like, oh, we've always been so melted.
Like, we've always been out in the streets, you know, calling ourselves patriots, holding up posters, you know, shouting for accountability.
Oh, there are so many questions around 9-11 that are unanswered, but I remember specifically being a young man and watching Loose Change and being completely pilled.
Like, just gone.
Oh, for sure.
Me too.
Just gone.
I remember sitting in a Vietnamese restaurant with my parents and being like, okay, guys, did you know that, um, just giving them some loose change stuff.
I actually, I had a very different experience with loose change, which might be unsurprising.
I remember specifically being unpersuaded by the little puffs of smoke that appeared as the, as the buildings came down, which they focused on, which they thought was evidence of controlled demolition, but Hell no.
At the time, I was like, this is, I mean, this is kind of, what's this, blurry little images of smoke coming out of windows?
It didn't persuade me at the time.
To give you guys an idea where I was at mentally, you know, the most interesting thing to me about the videos circulating after 9-11 was the one where the smoke appears to make the face of a demon.
Of a demon!
Of course you liked that one.
That was the one where I was like, oh my god, you're using demons!
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