This week, Jake and Liv break down the rap beef that took the world by storm this past month. And of course, because it’s 2024 and the universe has decided to spare none of the QAA hosts, the lyrics contained within the multiple diss tracks became the source of endless amounts of conspiracy theories and baking - with one particular poster claiming to be a “secret insider” set to expose the crimes of the elite. Sound familiar? Of course it does! We will never be free of this, and our souls cry out into the void.
For those who haven’t been following, Jake will catch everyone up to speed on why the beef began in the first place, as well as the accusations contained in each rapper’s lyrics. Then we will descend into hell where Liv will unpack the countless theories circulating in online forums, and the culmination of these theories resulting in real world violence.
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podcast episode 279 Kendrick plus Drake equals bake.
Nobody's gonna challenge me on that title.
No, no, no.
This is your show, I guess.
As always, we are your hosts, Jake Rokitansky, Liv Aker, Julian Field, and Travis View.
Well, well, well.
Jake and Liv on Maine?
Somebody's gonna get fired for this one.
I don't care if your name is Travis or Julian, no one's safe.
Oh, you like your information to contain facts?
Oh, you think only some conspiracies are real?
Too bad.
I'm gonna need all my QAnon believers to gather around Travis and argue with him politely from six feet away.
And Brad?
Can't even be mad at him.
He's somewhere deep in Mount Shasta learning how to bend light.
And Annie?
Stop being my mom's favorite host or I'm sending a cease and desist tonight.
And what could be said about Corey that hasn't already been said about Patrick Stewart?
He's nice.
Very professional.
Thank you, Corey.
We love you.
What the fuck is happening?
What is going on?
What?
What?
What the hell?
It's 20v1.
Yeah, it's just a little sample of my own diss track to you guys.
What did we do?
I'm not a pedophile.
That's right, folks.
Today, we are going to be breaking down last week's beloved distraction from the horrors of our current hellscape, the Drake and Kendrick Lamar beef.
You know, throughout the years, one of the most interesting parts of doing this podcast is seeing QAnon-style behavior pop up in unlikely places.
Whether it involves a secret jetpack believed to be embedded into GTA 5 by the developers, Or deciphering Taylor Swift lyrics to determine her sexuality, we've learned time and time again that no subject is immune to baking.
In this episode, I'm going to take a little time catching everyone up to speed.
Who are the key players?
How did this whole thing start?
And what are the accusations contained within the lyrics themselves?
Once you've been properly briefed, Liv is going to dive into all of the conspiracies swirling around the internet and how QAnon believers are using the display to dispense red pills.
Let's get into it.
Tensions have been rising between Kendrick and Drake for well over a decade now, and up until the last couple of years, the beef has been fairly one-sided, with Kendrick Lamar laying in perceived disses towards Drake on verses like Big Sean's Control and at the 2013 BET Hip Hop Awards Cypher.
Now, I'm saying this as a big Kendrick fan and a medium, medium-to-large Drake hater.
But it is true that, at least on Wax, Kendrick was the first to take shots at Mr. Graham.
I liked it in the script.
It was small, and Jake has, like, upgraded his picture of Drake.
I could tell no lies.
Jake hates Drake slightly more between the time that he wrote this and between the time that we're recording it.
I didn't want to downplay it.
You're, like, actually on course to assassinating him.
No, that's not true.
It's possible.
Did they find who did that shooting near his mansion?
No, not that I know of yet.
And at least as far as finishing the writing for this episode last night, there was no update on the security guard that got shot.
But that's starting at the end, so we will go all the way back to the beginning.
The two artists initially collaborated quite a bit, with Drake taking A$AP Rocky and Kendrick Lamar on tour to open for him in his 2012 Club Paradise tour.
Drake is also featured on Poetic Justice, which was a massive hit on Kendrick's Good Kid, Mad City.
When Drake began fielding questions from interviewers about the perceived jabs, Drake initially blew them off as a little friendly competition.
He did not jab back.
Which is smart, right?
I mean, because in my humble opinion, and I'm curious to get your guys' takes on this, you know, I think that Kendrick is just a far more technically skilled rapper and an overall deeper lyricist.
And that's not to say that Drake's music doesn't deserve a place in the hip-hop and R&B genre, but if we're talking pure lyricism, phrasing, and technical ability, Kendrick is just a flat-out superior MC.
And so, you know, a wise move not to trade blows with him.
Yeah, I mean, it really isn't close.
Drake's really main thing is, like, pop, especially now.
That's where his main audience base is.
That's, like, you know, he's known for doing hits.
Yeah.
Kendrick is great.
I mean, Damn was an amazing album.
I went back and then listened to Good Kid, Mad City.
But I have to say, yeah, I mean, he's great.
He got me back into listening to a full hip hop album with that one.
Yeah.
And I think, I mean, Liv, you make a really good point.
I think one of the, you know, the sort of The thing that happened here with this whole beef is that, you know, Drake, I think, confused success with skill.
That, you know, because he has the most plays, because he makes the most money, because he has the most endorsements, because he plays the most shows in the most places, that he's the best.
And that's just not the case.
You can be the most successful or the wealthiest, but, you know, it comes down to skill.
You know, pure skill.
If we're looking at hip-hop, you know, as if, you know, we were in the 90s, you know, when that sort of thing seemed to matter a little bit more.
Yeah, I mean, nozzle-matic.
It did kind of, like, feel a bit like a cool throwback and a combination with some of the modern trends, so I enjoyed that.
And just to help Travis participate as well.
So, okay, Travis, so Kendrick is, like, pinback and Drake is, like, cake.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, well, I understand that.
As a guy who grew up in Southern California in the 90s, this makes perfect sense to me.
Yeah, which neither me nor Julian nor Liv did, so actually Travis can claim the most authenticity in terms of his hip-hop analysis.
This brings us to the most recent, very public conflict between the two rappers.
The current beef between Canadian rapper Aubrey Graham, aka Drake, and Compton, California's Kendrick Lamar officially kicked off on Halloween of last year, when Drake dropped his eighth studio album titled For All the Dogs.
Okay, so on this Drake album, there's a song titled First Person Shooter, which features Fayetteville, North Carolina rapper Jermaine Cole, a.k.a.
J. Cole.
In the song, J. Cole references himself, Kendrick Lamar, and Drake as the top three, implying that within the current generation of rappers, these three are the best.
Uh, that's just... you're fuckin' dead wrong, buddy.
As a rippity rap expert, Kendrick is just much better than both of those.
Yeah, and I like J. Cole.
I think J. Cole is a good MC.
He's fine, but he's not top three.
No, no, no.
I'd put 21 Savage above Drake, to be honest, which is crazy.
I know.
I don't know if you guys are Savage fans.
That's not crazy at all.
I think a lot of heads would agree with you.
If you're reading this, Drake, maybe there's a conversation that he's like top something, but not 2024 Drake.
No, I don't believe it.
A lot of those guys, I really liked them when they first came out.
Drake included.
I really liked his first two singles.
I remember listening to them with my brother, and we were really, really impressed with him.
Same with J. Cole, but I felt like as their careers went on, they didn't Really grow in the way that Kendrick did, you know, if you listen to Kendrick's early stuff and then even just to these latest diss tracks, I mean, he is just constantly evolving and in a way that feels authentic, you know, whereas Drake's evolution kind of went from this, you know, pop star to, you know, this guy who's really gangster and talking about, you know, putting hits out on people and all this stuff.
It just it didn't feel right.
We can cut all that, Corey.
Now leave it in.
I want someone else to humiliate themselves on this, uh, four white people talk about hip-hop episode.
Yeah, I know, right?
So, about six months after that track was released, Kendrick featured on a track with Atlanta-born artist Future and St.
Louis producer Metro Boomin, titled Like That.
In his verse, he appears to have taken offense at the claim that J. Cole and Drake are in the same league as him.
Yeah, huh.
Yeah, get up with me.
Fuck sneak distance.
First person shooter.
I hope they came with three switches.
I crash out like, fuck rap.
This Melly Mel if I had to.
Got two T's with me.
I'm snatching chains and burning tattoos.
It's up.
Lost too many soldiers, not the players safe.
If he walk around with that stick, it ain't Andre 3K.
Think I won't drop Oof.
Yeah.
Wow.
I mean, it's like a massive hit.
Yeah.
So it's just, fuck the Big 3, it's just Big Me.
And then it's like, you know, hundreds of millions of listens.
Yeah.
So I think because this was a direct call out instead of your more typical subtle jabs that MCs make towards one another, the internet began to foam at the mouth.
A battle was brewing.
A couple weeks later after Like That released, J. Cole released his fourth mixtape titled Might Delete Later.
In it contained a track titled 7 Minute Drill that was a direct diss track aimed squarely at Kendrick Lamar.
In the song, J. Cole asserts that Kendrick has quote, fallen off like the Simpsons.
Uh, the problem with this is, like, you listed yourself in the top three with this guy, and so it's very hard to come back after he's like, actually, no, you're not even in the same league as me.
And the Simpsons have fallen off, right, Travis?
We agree about this?
Sure, sure.
I mean, I've actually, you know, it's funny, I was recently watching some season five episodes.
I mean, but yeah, obviously, you can't match the brilliance of the mid-90s Simpsons.
After the album was released, Cole apologized publicly to Kendrick Lamar at his concert two days later on April 7th of this year.
During the public apology, Cole spoke about how he was proud of the album, with the exception of the diss track, and vowed to either update it or delete the song entirely.
Oh my god, this guy just can't stop losing.
This is embarrassing.
In my spirit of trying to get this music out, I ain't gonna lie to y'all, I moved in a way that was, that I feel, spiritually feel bad on me, like, like I try to like, jab my nigga back, and I try to keep it friendly, but at the end of the day, when I listen to it, and when it comes out, and I see the talk, that shit don't sit right with my spirit, that shit make me feel, that shit disrupts my fucking peace.
So what I want to say right here tonight is in the midst of me doing that and in that shit,
trying to find a little angle and downplay this nigga's fucking catalog and his greatness,
I want to say right now tonight, how many people think Kendrick Lamar is one of the
greatest motherfuckers to ever touch a fucking microphone?
Honestly, respect.
My understanding with that as well is that I guess there was a rumor, or I'm not sure if it was confirmed, whether School Bar Q or someone in Kendrick's camp went to Cole and was like, this isn't rap.
Like, Kendrick fucking hates Drake.
Like, this is real.
This is serious.
Like, you're hitting back because it's like spirit of hip-hop beef, but like, you don't want to be involved in this.
Oh, whoa.
And so he backed out.
Schoolboy Q's record is actually really good, the one that he just put out.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I mean, you know, at the time, everybody made fun of J. Cole, you know, for doing this and accused him of being weak, for backing off from the diss.
But seeing as how Kendrick would go on to pummel Drake with track after track in the coming weeks, the decision turned out to be a very smart one for J. Cole, I think.
Yeah, and that's kind of the consensus in the cultures.
Initially, people were like, this is lame.
But later, it was like J. Cole's somewhere out there, frolicking in a field, living happily, not involved in this, not being accused of serious things.
He got his peace back.
Exactly.
A couple weeks later, the feud officially began with Drake releasing Push-Ups on April 19th.
While the diss is primarily aimed at Kendrick Lamar, Drake also insults other artists with a line telling producer Metro Boomin to quote, which I thought was pretty funny.
Most of the insults are divided between Drake's claims that Kendrick's music is boring and that he is short, with a line or two about Kendrick having to split his percentages with a greedy record label.
In the song, Drake also makes fun of rapper Rick Ross for being close to 50 years old, which I thought was funny too.
And he's not, he's like 48.
You know, he's not that much older than I am.
I think that's close to 50, I think.
Well under 50.
Well under 50.
He's got two more birthdays, okay?
Embarrassingly defensive over there.
That same day, Drake released another diss track aimed at Kendrick, this time using the AI voices of Tupac and Snoop Dogg.
Wow, you didn't have to shit your pants like this, but you did.
This one's embarrassing.
The track is titled Taylor Made Freestyle and attacks Kendrick for doing a verse on a Taylor Swift song.
I believe the song was Bad Blood.
Yeah.
In a perfect world, Tupac would announce that he faked his death and release a 23-minute Drake diss.
But anyways, here is a snippet of that AI track.
The West Coast savior.
Ain't great in your name and some hip-hop history.
If you deal with this viciously, you seem a little nervous about all the publicity.
Fuck this Canadian, light's getting dark.
We need to know the baby West Coast victory, man.
Call him a bitch for me.
Talk about him liking young girls, that's a kick for me.
Heard it on a budding podcast, it's gotta be true.
They told me the spirit of Machiavelli is alive.
And the nigga under 5'5", so it's gotta be you.
Wait, is he now showing off about liking young girls?
Okay, so I guess the idea that Drake is going for here is he's writing Tupac as if he's on Kendrick's team, coaching him on how to come back at Drake.
I've seen it online compared to the scene in 8 Mile where this is like how white people relate to him.
Well, I guess it's kind of like the 8 Mile scene.
Where Eminem provides his opponent with all of the potential comebacks in order to take the power out of them.
Just hearing Tupac say I saw it on the Budden podcast.
That shouldn't be allowed.
It's blasphemous.
This just made me feel all sorts of kind of icky inside.
It was not good.
This is the equivalent of that guy who went up to the gas pump and stuck the pump in his ass and then started jacking off.
He's like, I'm winning!
Also, Snoop posted a really funny video of him being, like, woken up at, like, two in the morning with his phone blowing up, people being like, you're not gonna believe what this guy did.
You AI'd a guy who's alive.
What the fuck?
I mean, it's bad enough to do it to the dead.
I mean, there's no winning.
You're doing an AI track.
Like, you fucked up so bad.
He's so out of touch.
Drake unfortunately had to remove the track from the internet after a lawyer representing Tupac's estate threatened to sue him for using AI to create the late rapper's voice.
No shit.
Yep.
On April 30th, 11 days after Push-Ups released, Kendrick Lamar dropped his response to Drake's diss in a song titled Euphoria.
And this is really when the baking began, even down to the song's title.
Twitter users were quick to point out that the title could be a jab at Drake's involvement in the HBO show of the same name and how that show over-sexualizes teenagers.
My favorite pick here, I didn't include it later, is that some people I saw were saying it's a theory that Drake had sex with Hunter Schafer because Kendrick says, like, you don't have sex with real women.
The girls here confuse themselves for real women, which is not a trans thing, but people thought it was a trans thing.
Yeah.
Uh-oh.
Yeah, I mean, there's been a lot of commentary about the misogyny sort of contained in both, you know, in both of the lyrics.
That's a discussion that's really not for me to have.
This rap is crap!
You know, there's been a lot of analysis about this situation.
And once again, I do think that, one, it's been brewing for a long time, but two, the news has just been so horrible lately that I feel like everybody is desperate for some kind of, you know, some kind of distraction.
Now, I gotta say that Kendrick's music is already primed for baking.
You know, being the skilled MC that he is, a lot of his lyrics contain double meanings and metaphors, you know, created with the specific purpose of having many layers for listeners to decode.
However, in Euphoria, Kendrick is probably as direct as he's ever going to be.
Now let me say I'm the biggest hater.
I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk.
I hate the way that you dress.
I hate the way that you sneak diss.
If I catch flight, it's gon' be direct.
We hate the bitches, you fuckers.
They confuse themselves with real women.
Then notice I said we.
It's not just me.
I'm what the culture feelin'.
Damn.
He does have that damn energy.
It's just so fucking good.
The energy is insane here.
That's what I loved about Damn is that it was the aggressive album that I thought potentially Yeezus was going to be.
And I found the lyricism on Yeezus really let me down because I was like, after 808s and Heartbreak, Kanye had made his amazing sad album.
And then I was like, oh my God, he's going to make an angry album.
He's going to make it with fucking acid and like house shit and It was just like so much, so many of the lyrics just don't match the production on that album.
But man, Damn really filled that space for me.
I loved it.
Just how fucking furious he is.
And this track delivers as well.
A lot of good hating inspiration.
Really an inspiration to haters everywhere.
Yeah, get your game up.
You do not hate like this.
I've never heard someone sing and sound like they're not having fun at all.
Like they're just they're genuinely bored in the studio.
Yeah, it's the same.
It's like, I guess I got to do these murders, you know, like, I'm going to work.
The line about like, this is what the culture's feeling is good, too.
Because it's like, yeah, you're outside.
You're like pop, like hip hop culture isn't with you.
They don't like you.
You've kind of like, Not transcended, but like moved beyond it and no one from this culture likes you.
It's a very powerful message.
He really should have just stayed quiet from day one.
The AI thing is such a misstep.
It's so stupid.
Because he shot first.
The first diss track was his.
That's really a mistake.
The other stuff is oblique.
It's just big me.
He's responding to J. Cole.
J. Cole apologizes.
You can just let it go.
Or just put a line in a hit or something where you're shooting back.
Yeah, just, oh man.
The song, I mean, you heard 15 seconds of it.
The song is absolutely brutal.
But despite the title, Kendrick focuses mostly on Drake's transition from an actor slash pop star to presenting as a hardened mafia boss capable of calling in hits and threatening his enemies with violence.
And, you know, at the end of the song, Kendrick tells Drake that he's not allowed to say the N-word anymore.
So he revokes his, he revokes his pass.
No comment.
Yeah, no comment on that.
No.
But that is what's in the song.
Barely giving Beef Watchers time to breathe, Kendrick dropped 6-16 in L.A.
a couple days later.
Before you ask, yes, the numbers were baked.
Okay, so here's all of the 616 hidden meanings I've gotten from Kendrick Lamar's new song 6-16 in L.A.
Nicole Brown Simpson's funeral was 6-16-1994.
6-16-1994 was also the day O.J.
Simpson had charges filed against him, hence the M.M.
gloves.
Kendrick is claiming he's murdering Drake.
Father's Day this year is 6-16.
I'm not kidding.
Tupac's birthday is 6-16.
Drake just bought a Tupac ring for $1 million and Kendrick said he'd be willing to double the wage in Euphoria to get that ring away from Drake, as Tupac is his favorite artist.
Drake also used that Tupac AI in TaylorMade.
This level of planning is psychotic.
Nothing can stop what is coming.
Yeah.
And, you know, I don't know if all of our audience knows what baking means, but it's essentially a term that came up on the Chan image boards for taking Q drops and trying to decrypt their meaning through oftentimes through publicly available news stories and information.
So this track, 616 in LA, actually samples the Al Green song, What a Wonderful Thing Love Is, on which one of Drake's uncles is credited as playing guitar on the track.
So even the sample credits are bakeable.
The song is intended to be a psychological operation against Aubrey, where Kendrick claims to have moles embedded in Drake's crew that they are actively plotting against him.
And he also like back-to-backed him because Drake in a beef I guess 10 years ago in like 2014 against Meek Mill released two two diss tracks back-to-back and the second one was called back-to-back and he won that he destroyed him and so Kendrick is doing that to him he's not giving him room to breathe Wow He back-to-backed him.
Thank you, Liv.
Things were starting to heat up.
The feud was becoming incredibly ugly and personal.
Drake responded by releasing "Family Matters" on the same day as 6/16 in LA,
and in it he accuses Kendrick of domestic violence, and that one of his children is
actually the result of Kendrick's friend Dave Free sleeping with Kendrick's wife.
[clip]
That is... he suck... man his flow sucks dude Like, this man sucks at fucking rapping!
It's a little slippery.
And I think this is good for Drake.
Like, these diss tracks that he put out is the best lyrics I've heard from him recently, in my own personal opinion.
Embarrassing.
So he really rose to the challenge and still, I think, you know, got demolished.
I think Drake's problem was the song was just too long.
He was trying to do a Kendrick with Euphoria where it's like six minutes and three different beats.
Just doesn't have the energy.
It doesn't have the energy.
He can't switch his style up or his intonation like Kendrick can without it sounding kind of phony.
Because, you know, one one thing that Kendrick does attack Drake on a number of times is how he puts on different accents depending on who he's with or, you know, where where he is.
I think it's worth mentioning also that to date there are no official reports indicating that Kendrick has faced legal consequences related to domestic violence.
Less than an hour later, Kendrick dropped Meet the Grams, where he accuses Drake of being a sex trafficker and hiding another child.
And this song is just insane.
I mean, it is a love letter, essentially, to all of the members of Drake's family, including his children and, you know, the alleged secret child, which there's no proof of.
But yeah, he makes pleas to his mother and his father, and I mean, it is just absolutely brutal.
And it's slow, and it's underplayed, and it's... Alright, here's a clip.
Your son's a sick man with sick thoughts.
I think niggas like him should die.
Him and Weinstein should get fucked up in a cell for the rest they life.
He hates black women, hyper-sexualizing them with kinks of a nympho fetish.
Grew facial hair because he understood being a beard just fit him better.
He got sex offenders on Jovio that he [Music]
Oh boy.
So, you see why it was good for Cole to maybe back out of this one.
Yes!
Yes.
Cole, a hero.
A hero in my eyes.
For knowing, knowing that it's not, that being the best or taking jabs at the best or fighting for clout isn't worth it, isn't worth the damage.
That's somebody who appreciates their life and appreciates their peace, like he said.
I think it was probably, like if it was just kind of rap beef, And Kendrick didn't think that Drake should die because he's like a pedophile.
Then I'm sure I'm sure that he would have like just continued and it just would have been, you know, like it's it's like hip hop beef that's a part of the culture.
But no, this is clearly it's clearly beyond that.
This is not par for the course.
It's like every moment you continue breathing, the world becomes an uglier place.
Yeah.
One thing that's also important is the, you are hiding another child thing.
It's kind of a reference to Drake's beef with Pusha T a couple of years ago, where Push did reveal that he had a secret kid.
And then that one, it was immediately clear that it was true.
I haven't seen anything like Drake immediately denied.
That was the only thing Drake denied after this was specifically that he didn't, he wasn't hiding another child.
So that one doesn't seem to be, that one seems like a potentially the most dubious claim.
I think a lot of people just kind of abandoned it.
Yeah.
The track was called Story of a D-Don, right?
Yeah, Adion, yeah.
Wow.
You know, in an effort to fact check some of this, because I feel like that's part of our job, I looked into the claim that Drake has members of his OVO team who are sex offenders, and I did find something, unfortunately.
It turns out that One of Drake's longtime crew, a Canadian rapper who goes by the name Baka Not Nice, was arrested in 2014 on charges of forcing a 22-year-old woman into prostitution and taking money from her.
The rapper pled guilty in 2015 and was sentenced to 6 months in jail, but was immediately released having already served 10 months, awaiting trial.
Charges related to human trafficking were dropped as the victim refused to testify in the case.
Yeah, and he becomes a rapper, as far as I'm aware, after this, because he's initially a security guard for OVR.
So no, no human trafficking convictions, just to be clear.
Although, that's still... Yeah, this one seems like they scared the witness.
Yeah, the witness was like, I just don't want to testify.
That's what I read in the reporting that was covering this trial was they stated that the witness did not want to testify and so those charges were dropped.
But, human trafficking you say?
Weinstein you say?
It was more than enough for the Bakers to turn their ovens to 500 degrees.
An old video of Drake at a concert began to surface on social media in which he kisses a young fan on the lips
After she told the singer she was 17 years old How old are you?
17 17?
Why do you look like that?
You're big, look at how it is Well, I don't know if I should feel guilty or not, but I had fun.
I like the way the breast feels against my chest.
And he kisses her at the end.
Oh, he kisses her on the mouth and he does say, I like the way your breasts feel against my chest.
Not good.
And he doesn't just kiss her on the lips.
He kisses her hand and then he grabs her, he caresses her chin and kisses her on each cheek, then the forehead and then on the lips.
Bad stuff.
Not great.
Not good at all.
Other social media users recalled a 2017 controversy when then 14-year-old Millie Bobby Brown, the lead of Stranger Things, revealed to the media that she and Drake, who was in his early 30s at the time, had become close friends and texted each other frequently.
When asked about the content of their conversations, Millie Bobby Brown told reporters that Drake was very helpful at giving her advice about boys.
The very next evening after releasing Meet the Grams, Kendrick dropped the track Not Like Us.
So, he back-to-backed him twice?
Yes.
And if listeners felt like the underage allegations on the previous track were too vague, this
time Kendrick spells it out for them.
[outro]
♪ Why you trollin' like a bitch, ain't you tired? ♪ ♪ Tryna strike a chord and it's probably A minor ♪
(laughing)
Holy shit.
That line is so good.
Tryna strike a chord and it's probably A minor.
Well, and there's so many double entendres to that.
I was watching this podcast, they were analyzing it, and one of the hosts pointed out, you know, A minor is the only minor scale that does not have any black keys in it.
Wow, and very honestly around this time I started seeing videos of like people, you know, and even during Euphoria like people were banging these tracks at like massive house parties.
People were banging them to do like spinning classes too.
It was just fucking, it must be hard because you're probably fucking hearing this shit played around you if you're going through the world as Drake.
Yeah and at the most listens to on a Spotify record like in the first week ever beating out a Drake song that previously had the record.
It's also like it was very it's very fun to like see people's first reaction to the song like with Julian and Travis now and that is like a big cultural thing I think is people reacting to the song like people making compilations of like just yeah their reaction to all the obviously very heinous accusations Kendrick is making over this like over this like club record.
Yeah, it's a DJ Mustard beat, which is insane.
Not Like Us debuted at number one on the Billboard charts and received over 70 million streams its first couple days out.
A massive hit.
People were generating millions of views merely videotaping themselves reacting to the song, as Liv mentioned.
And in the midst of all this, Metro Boomin, the guy Drake told to go and make some drums, well, he went off and did make some drums and produced, as far as I know, the first Disstrumental.
And that is a diss track with no rapping on it.
It's just an instrumental, but the instrumental itself is a diss.
He posted the song for free and told his social media followers that the best verse over the track would get a free Metro Boomin beat.
But here's a sample of that track.
[music]
It's just an absolute whomper.
It was a sample of someone who's like an AI artist named King Willonius who had like obviously made, because Drake has accusations that he's gotten a Brazilian butt lift.
The BBL.
The diss tracks.
I mean that's not technically a disstrumental, Jake.
It contains words.
I don't think so.
He's singing.
The chorus is BBL Drizzy.
He says this cake will make you blow, grow, glow up or something.
I mean.
Those are words!
What?
Those are words.
She's singing.
They're words.
Instrumental?
Because it's for someone to rap over.
Okay.
Yeah.
No.
I see that.
I'm going to stop being a little bitch about it.
Now, this was diabolical because it encouraged every amateur rapper in the world to take their own shots at Drake and potentially further their careers in the process.
One artist named YN Verse posted his response and gained more than 10,000 followers in a single day on Twitter.
His song was played more than 21 million times.
Metro was on top of the world, just enjoying all of the tracks and collaborations, until the next day when hashtag MetroGroomin was trending after social media sleuths uncovered some old tweets like this one.
Travis, Travis, I'm thinking Travis should read this.
Fantastic.
So, quoting this tweet by MetroGroomin, It says, she might be young, but she ready.
Oh, man.
This is from 2014.
So Twitter users were finding these faster than Metro could delete them.
And they were also screenshotting, you know, because X is completely broken.
You know, you can still see the tweet, even though the text below says this tweet has been deleted.
So people were sharing that they were having a good time.
Metro, as far as I know, did not respond to any of that.
In the final entry, so far, of The Rap Beef, Drake released The Heart Part 6 on May 5th.
In the track, he denies being a pedophile, citing that he's too famous and would definitely have been arrested had he actively pursued a minor.
He also claims that all of the information about Drake in Kendrick's diss tracks was misinformation that Drake and his crew purposefully put out into the streets, a theory that Drake's fans on Twitter had been considering as they watched their guy get absolutely demolished.
So thank God that was actually the case, that all of the things that Kendrick said was misinformation that Drake and his crew did put out.
I'm being very facetious.
A lot of people, a lot of the bakers on Reddit are claiming that essentially Drake read that and was like, oh, that's a pretty good comeback that I actually, I manufactured this whole thing and put out bad information and then used it in the track.
As we'll see later, that was absolutely empirically not the case because we know who the leaker is and it's not someone who likes Drake.
Also, of course it's not.
Of course it's like, who thinks I'm going to very cleverly allow my rival and enemy to think I'm a pedophile?
This is not a clever strategy.
Or even to say like, I'm going to make him think I'm hiding another child.
Like, it's just, it's a weird, if you're going to put out disinformation, put out something really big.
So it's a really, you know, rake step when, when you reveal, you know, the receipts.
You know videos of you and your buddies planning the dot whatever whatever it is.
You can't prove you don't have a child like you can't post a photo of you not having a kid like it doesn't really even if it comes out like or even if nothing comes out ever about Drake having a second like older kid he's hiding like it'd be very stupid.
I simply would not trick my enemy into calling me a pedophile that's just not a tactic I would employ I'm pretty sure that's not in the art of war.
So here is a clip of Drake's final response to Kendrick in The Heart Part 6.
I never been with no one underage, but now I understand why that's the angle that you really mess with.
Just for clarity, I feel disgusted.
I'm too respected.
If I was fucking young girls, I promise I'd have been arrested.
I'm way too famous for the shit you just suggested, but that's not the lesson.
Clearly there's a deeper message.
Deep cuts that never healed and now they got infected.
Like if Dave really fucked your girl and got her pregnant, talk about greed and resentment.
I'm prayin' you recover from both incidents But you a piece of shit so this shit really
no coincidence Drake is not a name that you gon' see on no sex offender list, easy does it You mentionin' A minor
but niggas gotta be sharp And tell the fans who was it
You thought you left D flat, D major I slit your throat with the razor
And do Rick Ross air like that one flight from Malaysia I'm your baby mama screensaver Only fuckin' with Whitney's,
not Millie Bobby Browns I never looked twice at no teenager
He brought up Millie like Drake didn't That's embarrassing.
This had to feel bad.
Bobby Brown. Drake was the one who brought that up. How does one make a
diss track of themselves so effectively? That's embarrassing. It is a tough
position to be in because making a song where you're like, "By the way, I'm not a
pedophile" is never a good look. You can't, you cannot be cornered into doing that. This had
to feel bad. This had to feel so bad going into the booth.
God, that's so fucking And it's just very sleepy.
The song is just not, it's clear that Drake is like, let's just, let's get over, let's get this over with.
Like, can we just stop, please?
He's like, I feel bad and I'm crying, and I'm definitely not a pedophile.
Yeah, I think besides the skill gap issue that we discussed, I don't think Drake is mad enough.
I think Kendrick Lamar is really, really genuinely mad.
And Drake can't match that level of intensity.
I think he doesn't hate Kendrick as much as Kendrick hates him.
And therefore, you get a softer product.
Also, by the way, you know, this is my biggest, you know, sort of criticism of Drake as somebody who was following his career really closely when he first, you know, when he first, you know, sort of came into the hip-hop scene.
You know, over the years, he got increasingly more, like, wanting to make drill music, wanting to, you know, like, he's from the streets and he's capable of violence and you better not say anything, like, he's He's going to put a hit out on you.
And none of it ever just felt authentic to me.
It's like, I was an actor too.
I worked when I was younger, I worked with people who had been on Degrassi.
I know that, you know, I know what the vibe is and you know, coming, you know, just because you have a lot of money doesn't necessarily make you capable of violence.
And I don't know, there was something always off-putting once that arc Very rude.
He's saying the Toronto suburbs are not a hard place.
He's saying Forest Hills.
and his writing or writing that he had done for him.
Very rude. He's saying the Toronto suburbs are not a hard place.
He's saying Forest Hills. It's a very easy place to live.
Big slice. It's a really dangerous place, okay.
They've got very big pizzas, but they've also got very dangerous people in Toronto that wait outside the Big Slice, they wait for you to get your slice, and they're waiting for you, and Drake is there to protect.
Drake does a lot of protecting on the streets of Toronto, okay?
And he's also putting a hit out on me, on some of his enemies, alright?
Not Justin Trudeau, he really likes Justin Trudeau, okay?
But we don't like Justin.
No, we don't like Justin.
I'm gonna send him to Big Slice in the middle of the night.
The late, the late, great Drake.
I'm gonna send Justin Trudeau to Big Slice in the middle of the night.
What is going on?
Alright.
At the end of the track, Drake says that he is done with the beef and moving on with his life.
Sources close to Kendrick Lamar explain that because Drake's last track was on the defensive, Kendrick will not be releasing any more tracks.
That remains to be seen.
Kendrick said he had like 10 ready.
He's like, I have so many, so...
It would have been awesome if we got a whole album, a whole brand new Kendrick album.
Where he's just calling Drake a pedophile.
Yeah, it's just 16 tracks of Kendrick calling Drake a pedophile in different ways.
My favorite was the club banger where he called Drake a pedophile.
I like the slow jazz pedophile song too.
Yeah, I mean, this is all in all not the best trend, maybe, in music.
It's just like, everybody calling each other pedophiles and groomers.
I mean, it's probably also a sign of where the culture's at right now.
Yeah, I think, I think, yeah, absolutely.
Our culture as a whole, not hip-hop culture, but our culture as a whole, this idea that calling somebody a pedophile or calling them a groomer is going to get the negative attention that you so desperately desire, you know, to be placed on this person.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if, like, the kind of investigative journalism turn in, like, some more recent, like, large hip-hop beefs does have a relationship to cancel culture, possibly.
That's just, like, the language people think through, especially, like, notable people about, like, I don't like someone and I want them taken down.
Yeah, saying, like, you are literally a sex offender and a pedophile and you should be murdered.
I mean I will say I do think that like I would be very surprised if Kendrick didn't think Drake was a pedophile like I don't think oh no I think he's I do think he whether he is one is like you know unknown but he thinks it 100% and I'm not defending Drake I'm just saying that didn't a guy get shot up on Drake's compound?
We'll get to that.
Well, I mean, but also if he if he I mean, if he had genuine reason to believe that Jake that Drake is a pedophile, you know, why would you withhold that if you're in the middle of a rap beef?
That's gold.
That's true.
There's there has not been a smoking gun yet.
Tragically, the nastiness contained within the lyrics of the Drake slash Kendrick beef eventually bubbled off the internet, resulting in real-world violence.
On Tuesday, May 7th, police were called to Drake's Toronto mansion at around 2 a.m.
in the morning.
A security guard stationed outside had been shot at from a vehicle containing multiple suspects.
Police said the guard was rushed to the hospital with life-threatening injuries, where, as of this reporting, he remains in serious condition.
Over the next two days, Toronto police responded to two more incidents at the residence involving trespassers, so scary stuff.
And the Not Like Us album cover was Drake's mansion.
Yes.
So say what you will about who won the beef or who's the better rapper, but I do hope that there is no more violence around this.
You know, as a kid who grew up loving rap music in the 90s, I I can clearly remember when Tupac and Notorious B.I.G.
were murdered, and it was a huge, and remains to be a huge loss, you know, for hip-hop music.
So stay safe out there, Drake.
It would be crazy if the rumor was that another sex trafficking pedophile did that.
He's cutting in on my business.
Living in the age of QAnon essentially guarantees that any large media story related to the potential existence of child sex trafficking rings is going to be baked thoroughly, and not only by actual pilled people, but anyone who has spent enough time chewing on the story and isn't happy with the fact, like in this case, that there's no definitive evidence for essentially all of the allegations made on both sides.
Many even casual rap fans have tried to dig deeper and find out more, going to shadier and shadier anonymous sources claiming to have all the secret details about all the evil stuff going on in the entertainment industry until they accidentally sort of pill themselves.
And so I've trawled various subreddits, YouTube channels, and tweets to find the most absurd and far-reaching claims people have made about the seemingly finished feud between the two rappers.
Okay, so Liv is the globe emoji of this beef?
I'll start off in the fairly tame zone, and by that I mean with what actual pilled conspiracy theorists have taken from this beef.
This is only tame insofar as we all sort of know what general theorizing these type of people are going to make, even really without looking.
We in this case being anyone whose brain is broken enough to know how these types of guys think.
These are mainly bakes against Drake for a few obvious reasons.
It's been alleged that Drake and his crew are pedophiles.
He's big in the entertainment industry and his mother is also Jewish.
Yeah, we can kind of see the...
Where that goes.
Yeah.
One example of the type of bakes that come out of this can be found in the r slash conspiracy subreddit, where one user wrote, I'll keep this short because it's pretty easy to know slash put together.
Kendrick Lamar, Cat Williams and Kanye West have all been very vocal recently as they all know the true extent and how deep this all goes.
Before this beef, it was widely known Drake was a pedophile.
From texting 13-year-old girls, to feeling young women on stage, to leaking him having sex, to etc.
etc.
But what is glossed over is the extent of this pedophilia, extortion, and utter debauchery.
Drake is the largest person in the music industry, the golden boy of Universal Music Group, and infinitely bankrolled by them.
Similar to Diddy, he's an industry extortionist, vulture, but ultimately a low-level player compared to who he serves.
Diddy being low-level, compared to Cohen and Grange, still is powerful enough to make people disappear and have the LAPD on their payroll.
Lucian Grange, head of UMG, has been already named in a lawsuit and excused for sexual assault.
Lucian also has connections to the IMF and world banking, most notably getting involved in enslaving Africa in debt.
UMG is owned by Blackrock, Safe Street, Vanguard, etc.
Not only do these men rape and pillage the land for their resources and capital, but they also literally rape and pillage the lands from kids who are then sexually trafficked and forgotten about.
But we all know that.
The Emperor truly has no clothes.
Our rulers are pedophiles.
Our musicians make millions off degrading women then extorting them in real life, only to get raided by the FBI.
Who suppressed the evidence because they've been bankrolling it the whole time.
Maybe people won't realize the elites and celebrities kidnap foreign children and breed children for the sole purpose of sexual assault and discreet disposability, but maybe realizing their favorite artist is a pedophile will unveil something.
Probably not.
Okay.
So a lot going on there.
A lot going on there, and I'm no fan of the IMF and the World Bank, but Jesus Christ, buddy.
The mention of Kanye West at the start is fairly important here, as he's essentially been making the same sort of bank as this user in relation to Lucien Grange, CEO of Universal Music Group.
Who seems to have a fairly amicable relationship to Drake, given that Drake is the largest artist on the label.
In a remix to the song like that, that we heard a bit of before by Kanye, he asks Drake, where's Lucien, and tells him to serve his master, basically furthering this idea.
And in an interview around the same time, in late April of 2024, he also calls Lucien Drake's sugar daddy.
It cuts Drake's soul.
It's like he signed his soul to the devil to not be cool with me, to have to like, this is his job to go against God.
Wow.
Wow.
And it cuts his soul.
They say rich baby daddy, it's like Drake has a rich baby daddy named Lucian and Universal.
Wow.
He's like, you know, like, man, my daddy got it.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, my daddy controlled the Spans.
My daddy got the DSPs.
My daddy, Drake, has a rich baby daddy named Lucian.
So all of his streams and the number ones is controlled by someone named Lucian.
Or Lucian work for people who control the banks in Africa.
Okay.
Kanye's not looking in tip top shape.
No, no, he really has not been.
And an important context for the very last couple seconds of that clip is that Lucien is Jewish and severed his relationship with Kanye in 2021 during Kanye's initial anti-Semitic tirade.
But also, baby daddy, you'd have to, like, Drake would have to give birth.
I guess he gives birth to his music, but it still doesn't quite apply.
I think he means sugar daddy.
I think so.
I can't seem to find any actual evidence that Grange and Drake are close outside of business, but a crucial reason that some might be contextualizing them as such is that Grange was implicated in the ongoing sexual abuse lawsuit against Diddy, which has led to Diddy's home being raided by the FBI, which is a part of the previews bake from that Reddit user.
Initially, Grange and other members of Universal Music Group were alleged to have aided and abetted Diddy's sexual abuse ring.
While the judge for the case did eventually dismiss Grange from the suit as a result of insufficient evidence, this obviously still makes him look pretty bad, and presumably Drake by association.
Although many on the other side of this beef, such as The Weeknd, Metro Boomin, and even Kendrick Lamar, are also signed to UMG, and have similarly friendly photos taken with Grange during public events.
Following the beef slowing down after, you know, Drake released his last track and Kendrick doesn't seem to be interested in posting anymore, many have actually baked the idea that UMG has been some sort of puppet master, protecting their golden boy Drake and ensuring that the truth about his pedophilia isn't exposed.
One specific anonymous blind item that was circulating a lot said exactly this.
From an insider, waiting on proof in the form of documents.
Will update whenever I receive it.
PG Lang, Kendrick, and XO The Weeknd, as of yesterday, were asked by Universal Music Group, UMG, to end the beef with OVO, Drake.
Kendrick apparently isn't budging at all, but UMG is pressing hard on the request to squash the beef.
UMG also had a Zoom meeting with all the parties involved, and they want Kendrick, either directly or said through PG Lang, to post a statement clarifying that Drake isn't a pedophile if Kendrick agrees to end the beef.
Drake is losing the beef in UMG's eyes, so from UMG's perspective, the sooner that this beef ends, the better.
The pedophilia accusations directed at Drake are costing UMG, Nike, and other parties, quote, "a lot of money."
I mean, it's not unreasonable to think that UMG is like, guys, you can't just be like,
this guy should be murdered and he's a pedophile, like, between their artists.
But I don't know if that's covering up, more just protecting, you know, these large investments.
Well, it's protecting a brand asset, yeah.
Although Drake is like a pop star now, so he'll never go away.
Especially given, like, this Drake will be fine.
His core audience is not hip-hop people, probably.
Yeah, he'll put out another album in, like, three months and pretend like none of this happened.
But a TMZ story, where someone supposedly actually spoke to a UMG spokesperson, alleged that the label wasn't actually interfering at all.
Yet this didn't stop many from baking Drake's interactions with Grange as evidence of a pedophilic Jewish cabal protecting one of their own.
As an example, here's a post from 4chan's Politically Incorrect board.
We are having Jake read this because apparently there's some slurs in it that he's allowed to say but not us.
Hmm.
I am quoting the Post-May-2 poll, so you know where this is going, and I quote.
Apparently, Triple Parentheses Universal Music Group, or Triple Parentheses UMG, owns some 70% of the music industry and are involved in blackmail and human trafficking.
Word is, Drake is completely owned by UMG and recently signed the largest music deal in history, totaling around $400 million about two years ago.
The Kikes are fuming because Drake is being called out as a pedophile, meaning their quote-unquote property isn't worth as much as they paid for.
Jesus Christ.
Allegedly, Kikes from UMG get in a call with both artists and tell Lamar he has to make amends and send a public apology toward Drake, but instead ends with Lamar telling them to go fuck themselves.
It seems like Lamar knows he is fucking with Kike Money, and his message is actively uniting all of the West Coast gangs against, triple parentheses, them.
The hatred of Kike's is so real that it's actually uniting the Crips and Bloods and every West Coast gang that literally spend their lives killing each other.
Jesus.
I can't imagine that any of this is real.
No, it's a very odd and obviously racist impression of the world.
Insanely racist and anti-semitic and is the, you know, doing the white replacement and lots of stuff.
QRD.
Kendrick gets into industry and literally shits his pants at the sight of degeneracy.
Gathers evidence for you.
This is very QAnon.
I mean, this is very, Trump's been planning this for 30 years.
Gathers evidence for years, pre-plans his diss with Drake, masterfully executes the bait, exposes mogul industry and child predators slash human trafficking rings while making a number one Spotted You song about it.
Spotted You?
Jesus Christ, they're like inventing new ways to be anti-Semitic.
Like, it doesn't even work.
Like, the end of Spotify does not sound like you.
Yeah, it doesn't.
No!
That doesn't work at all!
That's insane!
Threats about Drake's connections with the industry and possible UMG corruption are being banned on Twitter and Reddit for antisemitism.
And to end this insane, rabidly antisemitic post, we have a segue into the meat and potatoes of the episode, which is baking on various Kendrick Lamar subreddits coming not necessarily from right-wing conspiracy theorists outside of the culture, but just from avid hip-hop fans trying to find answers.
As this 4chan user continues by linking a post made to the Kendrick Lamar subreddit on May 6th, which gained 13,000 upvotes and was eventually deleted and had its comments locked because, to quote a moderator, anti-Semitic Jewish conspiracies.
Retrieving an archive of the comment section before many of the comments were deleted, one user linked to a Twitter account claiming to have inside information named Cole Bravo, who maintains that UMG has tried to protect Drake, and when asked over the TMZ article, saying otherwise, he says, Look who owned TMZ.
Harvey Levin, the main face and CEO of TMZ, is of course Jewish.
The original post on the Kendrick subreddit links to four blind items made from the Crazy Days and Nights website.
For many on various Kendrick Lamar subreddits, including the influx of far-right conspiracy theorists drawn to them in recent weeks, this site would essentially be one of their cues.
Providing Nostradamus-style predictions and analysis about the quote-unquote butterfly rapper, Kendrick has an album called To Pimp a Butterfly, and his attempts to expose the Canadian rapper, his involvement in various sex crimes.
The text for the now deleted post that got 13,000 upvotes on the Kendrick subreddit reads,
"Think I might have went full schizo and went too far.
These are from over a month ago. They are called blind items and have predicted everything so far,
which means someone talked and exposed it somewhere. Kendrick has been plotting for a
minute and Portapoppi? Bruh."
One of the blind items from April 3rd of 2024 reads, "Why is the Canadian rapper tied to so many people who have
been accused of Harvey Weinstein crimes?
There is the 'not nice' person who intimidated one of his victims into withdrawing her claims,
there is the 'Portapoppi' and there is his former bird boss.
The Butterfly rapper knows about it all and is getting ready to expose him. That is why he's scared
to respond."
So not nice is bad boy.
Is Baca.
Baca not nice.
That's the guy who did have the charge of forcing the woman into prostitution.
Oh boy.
Most of this is fairly straightforward.
Obviously the Canadian rapper is Drake.
The Not Nice Person is a reference to rapper Baka Not Nice that Jake mentioned before, a former security guard for Drake, who went to jail for attempting to force a woman into prostitution as well as assaulting her in 2014.
The trafficking charges were dropped as a result of the woman refusing to testify, so he only served six months.
As we heard before, Kendrick has even mentioned this, being suspicious on Not Like Us, where he calls Baka's case weird.
Kendrick's mention of this has caused rap fans to speculate about the strange nature of Baka's sudden promotion from security guard to rapper, following him gutting out.
One post in the HipHophead subreddit from May 4 linked to Baka's song "Money in the Bank,"
the first two bars of which read, [Music]
I'm pretty sure I've heard that track in NBA 2K.
That would be a weird one to have in there.
Yeah, I know, but all of the music in it is kind of like this.
The OP of the post speculates about this in the comments, saying,
"In 2014, Baca was arrested for human trafficking. He had no prior musical career. When he got
out of prison, he was put on OVO payroll and had his music promoted. In the first line
of the song, he heavily implies he went to prison to be a fall guy."
I'm not necessarily sure whether the lyrics imply he was a fall guy, but he does seem
to explicitly state he could have potentially ratted on some accomplice to his attempt to
violently force a woman to do sex work for him, but then didn't.
But the mention of Bacca in this blind item, among many other cryptic clues that the Crazy Days and Nights page has in relation to the beef, left many Kendrick fans using it as a potential source to help unravel sinister secrets connected to Drake and his camp.
But who's behind this blind item blog?
The site's owner, who writes under the alias of NT Lawyer, claims to have legally represented many stars in the entertainment industry, has chosen an anonymous form to dish about some of his clients as well as other celebs' secrets.
As it turns out, it's been fairly popular among celeb conspiracy theorists since it started in the mid-aughts.
The identity of its owner, John Nelson, was only revealed at the tail end of 2023, following a bizarre legal dispute between him and a former lover he was having an affair with.
In reality, Nelson is not a big-time entertainment lawyer, but instead works in a small firm in central LA that deals with probate law, and he was also a minor entertainment lawyer on the side.
When asked by journalist Lila Shapiro writing for Vulture about an inconsistency in an early blog post Nelson made that implied he represented Sean Connery when this is impossible, he said, He'd gotten the anecdote secondhand from a law school friend who'd worked as a gopher at an L.A.
firm.
When I asked him to connect me with a friend, he declined.
Quote, He said he never outright made up items, but sometimes published tips from readers that he had, quote, He might fudge an anecdote now and then, but the truth mattered.
the more obscure and generalized I will make it, but I don't just randomly make up stuff.
He might fudge an anecdote now and then, but the truth mattered.
Quote, "The heart of whatever you're saying needs to be true."
Okay.
Well, that could be a lot of things.
Sure, buddy.
For sure.
Yeah, lawyers don't lie.
They're big on the truth.
Like, I wasn't making up stuff.
People were just sending me random shit, and I was posting it.
You have to defend people you, like, think are guilty sometimes.
I mean, no.
Wrongo bongo!
Some on the Kendrick Lamar subreddit were enthralled with the vague blind items Nelson was posting about Drake's potential involvement in sex trafficking, and also Kendrick's desire to take Drake down.
And as I previously stated, these beefs seem to go too far for many of the Kendrick Lamar mods, who would delete a lot of the speculation.
A lot of users on this subreddit wanted to dig deep into absurd places to find evidence for Drake's misdoings, often getting themselves pilled in the process, and generally the monsters responded to this by attempting to stave off these sort of sentiments from becoming more popular.
Then, on May 6th, users created the DarkKenny subreddit.
Oh boy, another dark character.
Goddammit, Dark Biden, Dark Everything.
Made for speculation and bakes into Drake's potential pedophilia, not allowed on the main Kendrick subreddit.
On one post from Dark Kenya, a user asks why their bakes surrounding the blind items are being auto-deleted on r slash Kendrick Lamar, to which one commenter replies, They don't want liability from UMG.
So the conspiracy has even led to the Kendrick Lamar mods, you know, calling things quote-unquote anti-semitic and deleting them.
New blind items related to the beef are posted to Dark Kenny to be baked by the users as if they're basically Q-drops.
One example being the obsession many users had with the idea of dogs being in some way subject to sexual abuse by Drake and his camp.
One mention of dogs from the Blind Items comes from a post on March 15th of this year, which says, The Dutch rapper can thank the Canadian rapper for drawing the world's attention to his activities.
He badmouths him to anyone who will listen, especially when there are women around.
He talks about what the Dutch rapper did to a family in some place called Yalding, and how he perforated the father's colon as his children screamed.
He talks about how he uses his dog to lure school-age girls.
He talks about how he makes money in Dubai.
He talks about the dogs, and how jealous he was when the Canadian rapper collaborated with the middle alphabet rapper.
I think the Dutch rapper is Dutchavelli, who's a British rapper.
Okay.
But users would also go on to bake any mention of dogs connected to Drake, who has a recent album titled For the Dogs.
They seem to be convinced that Kendrick was also warning people about this.
On a post titled, Kendrick alludes to the Drake dog stuff on the Dark Kenny subreddit, one user quotes two Kendrick lines as if the allusion is self-evident.
Fuck a rap battle, he should die so all of these women can live with a purpose.
Every dog gotta have its day, now live in your purpose.
And women live in purpose are in bold and then dog live in purpose are also in bold which is just self-evident
According to them is like proof that there's some dog stuff going on
I've got bad news about a very famous rapper called Snoop.
There's a one-to-one correlation between this and QAnon because in QAnon they have something called dog code where they think that every mention is a secret reference to politicians being put down like dogs.
Well, there you go.
Another example of these sort of bakes come from May 11th, when Crazy Days and Nights posted a blind item which read,
"Speaking of the former wheelchair actor, what he claims were things to set up his rival are actually from a sting
complete with footage of some very bad things the former actor did.
It feels like he is going to have to write a very big check to someone to make it all go away."
The wheelchair rapper being of course Drake, as he played someone in a wheelchair during his acting years on Degrassi.
Commenters at Dark Kenny essentially treat this info like it's a drop.
One user bakes it by saying, A sting?
So maybe they rated Drake and he gave up puff?
One commenter connects the mention of footage to a viral set of tweets by a Twitter user named Emity Prince that went viral a day or so behind these planned items.
This, to me, seems to be obviously what these posts are about, as they mention that something by Drake is an attempt to set up his rival.
The set up comes from bakes made by the other side of this beef, Drake Fans, who, as Jake alluded to before, claimed that the album art for Kendrick's Meet the Grams, which included a bundle of items clearly owned by Drake, like an Ozempic prescription in his name, was in reality actually a ruse by Drake to feed Kendrick fake information.
This theory seems to either begin on Twitter or the r slash Drizzy subreddit, the one for Drake, with one early instance of it coming from Twitter user SheehanWasHere early on May 4th of 2024.
Drake trolled K-Dot.
He sent that album cover to Kendrick's team to make fun of him.
The receipt is for the ring in the video.
The Ozempic in gloves is poking fun at Ross and the shirt is to call K-Short.
The daughter was planted for the mole.
Oh my god, these people are so far gone.
The daughter was planted for the mole.
Like just, this is like fucking trying to like Watch the, like, last 10 minutes of a Mission Impossible movie.
But the Ozempic prescription, like, it's a real prescription in Drake's name for Ozempic.
Like, I got you, I got a real prescription and then planted it, like, as evidence for you and you believed that I'm actually on Ozempic.
This theory was only emboldened by the fact that the official cover art for Meet the Grams when it finally went to streaming services was not the photo of Drake's Ozempic prescription and other valuable items as it was before, but instead a black screen, showing that maybe Kendrick had realized he had been baited.
Drake would then come to actually use this bake as the official OVO line on The Hardt Part 6.
Even the picture you use, the jokes and the medication.
The Maybach glove and the drug he uses for less inflation.
Master manipulator, you bid on the speculation.
When this pic was made official canon, users on r slash Drizzy and Twitter, who thought it up beforehand, felt elated that they had uncovered a secret code created by Drake so hard to decipher even Kendrick didn't get it.
Now, this is another one-to-one with QAnon, I feel like, because you have, you know, Q sort of throwing stuff out, and then, you know, that's vague, users coming in and baking it down to something more specific, and then Q signaling to those users by either quoting them in drops, saying, yes, that's correct, you know, you got this right.
And if it is true that Drake read these theories online and then went, oh yeah, that's a pretty good comeback, I'm gonna use it, that does correlate to QAnon using takes or narratives sort of posted by Q followers and then incorporating them into future drops.
This attempt by Drake to set up his rival, as TheBlindItem put it, would backfire and become disproven, following a tweet by EbonyPrince, a user whose first post on Twitter on May 10th, containing a video of Drake's property from the Meet the Grams cover.
It also included the front page of that day's newspaper, a view which sleuths would come to find as the Mark Hotel in New York, and a caption which read, Number one, King, at Kendrick Lamar is not a liar and I am not a thief.
Number two, Mr. Aubrey Graham at Drake and Mr. Livingston Allen at Academics, have until noon Monday 5-13-24 to retract your claims of theft or my attorney Miss Adrienne Edward and I will exhaust every legal option available.
So it's just, ugh, this Ebony Prince stuff just came in to be like an extra layer of insanity to all this.
Yeah, it's one of the more confusing things because the tweets are just confusing.
He has a bad time kind of articulating what he's actually talking about and he wants to be like obfuscatory on purpose as well to kind of create hype around it.
He likes to post like chess boards with like blood under the pieces and stuff.
The subreddits were elated.
It seemed that whoever this user was, he hated Drake, and he was clearly not a fake mole planted by him to do 5D chess against Kendrick.
Most of his posts are cryptic and confusing, to the point where it's hard to really understand what he's even claiming, and there are quite a few of them since the account's first tweet on May 10th, 190 in the last six days.
Generally, they're about, like, the nature of power, of Drake being deceitful, although he references Drake in, like, the second person, hints that he is a big info bomb he's about to drop, etc.
Oh yeah, the Moab dude.
The Moab's about to drop.
This is also very QAnon.
It's like the red button, you know?
Here's an example of a QAnon style cryptic thing he tweeted out.
48 laws of power.
This is why we must always treat others nicely.
You never know with whom you're dealing.
Wrong you're.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
But one post he made on May 10th raised some eyebrows about what the account was actually claiming when it read, To Mr. Aubrey Graham, at Drake, may this photo help jog your memory as to where you discarded those items.
The issue in the photo should also jog your memory.
Jimmy Brooks would not have been proud of you that night.
The tweet included a screenshot from a security camera at The Mark, an upscale hotel in New York that Drake frequents, which includes reporter Christopher Alvarez.
What got many Rat Beef bakers' attention here was the fact that Alvarez has a skeletal disorder called thanatotropic dysplasia, as he's seen in a wheelchair on the security footage, and Ebony Prince notes that Jimmy Brooks wouldn't be proud of Drake.
Jimmy Brooks being the character Drake played who uses a wheelchair from Degrassi.
Another related post Ebony Prince makes in this period is a screenshot of the date of this CCTV footage with the
caption "One year, three months, 22 days. Those were good men. Ever
heard of an Ebony scandal?
Well, welcome to the game."
Okay, this is just, I mean, even the tone, the questions, everything.
God damn it.
We're never gonna be done.
We're never gonna be done!
No, we're never gonna be, we're never gonna get rest.
Nope.
You know, it will be nice, though, that when our time is finally up here, I think we'll be good and exhausted.
You know, we won't have, you know, we won't be, oh, I wish I could stay a little bit longer.
I think, you know, especially Travis, we'll be ready for the deep sleep.
Travis is currently in a Lennon style casket and he's looking waxing.
Travis's mausoleum.
So this footage supposedly involves something happening to good men and potentially something bad involving Alvarez?
In later tweets and in DMs, Ebony Prince says he will only release the full footage for $800,000.
Imagine if Q had asked for money.
Oh, that would have been.
That's so awesome.
Implying that it's a, or maybe the, truth bomb that he's sitting on.
Some users even thought that maybe the mole had been Alvarez himself.
One on Twitter, for instance, baked the fact that Ebony Prince had used a copy of the Daily Eagle to verify the date of his video, as Alvarez is a reporter for the Daily Eagle.
And Alvarez had interviewed Drake before, and the two were seemingly on good terms.
A user named King Jared baked the fact that Alvarez had posted himself from the Mark Hotel a day after the CCTV screenshot.
Which was possibly from the same balcony that Ebony Prince's video with Drake's Possessions was filmed at.
You can see it's like the same view.
Maybe it's not the same floor.
I don't know.
I don't know either.
I don't know anything.
This is actually fucking taking away from my brain.
This is like, it's like we're hunting the fucking xenomorph and the acid has splashed back on me and I am dying.
But this is the same thing, right?
QAnon, you know, would often post these kind of blurry photos and users would bake where they were, were they on the same, you know, outside of Michael Avenatti's office, all of that shit.
It's so reminiscent of it.
Somebody even baked that maybe Alvarez was in on the pedophilia, helping procure minors for Drake to sex traffic.
I can't quite find where this originates, but it seems that users looked through Alvarez's Instagram followers and noticed that he was following some amount of, like, minors, seeing this as evidence that they were being procured by him for Drake.
I found one user on Twitter saying this.
The disabled person Drake has been seen with is Christopher Alvarez, and he's Drake's sponsor for finding minors.
Christopher is following a ton of minors on Instagram.
Look for yourself.
Okay, that's not how, that, the word sponsor there doesn't make any sense.
Yet most other people people, looking for a smoking gun about Drake's evil sex
crimes, came to the conclusion that Ebony Prince was attempting to tell all of us that Alvarez
had gone up to Drake's suite at the mark that night and been physically and sexually
abused by Drake and his crew.
Many users on Reddit and elsewhere began to find potential clues released by Kendrick
that might connect to Alvarez, like one TikTok user, @jwilliamj, who got 450,000 likes on
a video pointing this out.
With that being said, I need y'all to listen to this real quick.
Now if you know Kendrick, he's very intricate and everything, but just think about this.
That sounds very deliberate.
Like why did it take so long for the instrumental to even start playing and what is that sound in the back?
So if you aren't aware, someone who is either the mole or someone who got information directly from Drake's camp came out recently and broke the silence.
He came out and recorded the things that were on the cover for Meet the Grams and he threatened legal action against Drake and Academics for calling him a thief and basically revealing that none of it was planted and that it's Probably real.
Mr. Aubrey Graham, Drake, may this photo help jog your memory as to where you discarded those items.
The issue in the photo should also jog your memory.
Jimmy Brooks would not have been proud of you that night.
Stick with me.
I've been going down a rabbit hole.
Other people have posted this Reddit thread where people have been discussing that sound at the beginning of 616 and a bunch of respiratory therapists have been commenting saying it sounds like some sort of portable ventilator.
When analyzing the CCTV footage that was put out there by that person who might be the mole or something who has information, they've analyzed that you can see the tubes in the picture of that person in that wheelchair and they might be carrying a portable ventilator.
So Kendrick made a ventilator sound at the start of 616 in LA to hint that Alvarez had been abused maybe?
That teenager is in his mom's kitchen and there are people around him and and it's like it must be so fucking exhausting to have like a goddamn pilled teenager in the house just making TikTok videos.
You just walk in and your son is fucking pointing up and talking about the mole.
I mean, here's yet another example.
It's not good enough that Kendrick, you know, out-rapped Drake.
Well, the fact that they got diss tracks in the first place, because Kendrick fans have been waiting forever for Kendrick to do a proper, you know, Drake diss, right?
And they got it, and boy did they get it!
They got, you know, six tracks, you know, over the course of, you know, the last couple weeks, you know, and the tracks are good!
It's good music, you can bum it, and it's not enough!
It's not enough, actually, the reality that what they got.
They have to go further.
It has to be QAnon, because people want the actual evidence.
Yes, this is a recurring theme.
Even when you get what you want, it's not good enough.
There has to be deeper meaning.
There has to be a deeper crime uncovered.
There has to be more clues to analyze.
It's just reality, even when it's the reality that you wanted, that you hoped for, is not Good enough.
It's just it's a fucking exhausting trend and it's like when when will it be?
I don't know.
I don't know if it will be.
The slurry of allegations against Alvarez or maybe for him against Drake heightened over the span of just a few days until Alvarez released an article for the Brooklyn Eagle detailing his experiences with Drake at the Mark Hotel that night.
I can confirm that I was with Drake on the night of January 22nd, 2023, after his NYC concert with 21 Savage.
I was called to meet Drizzy at the Mark Hotel, and we had a blast listening to new beats.
I am not in the position to talk about his character outside of our meetings, but I can say I was not violated in any way.
I have been getting a lot of spam phone calls, texts, emails, and social media messages saying that I am the quote-unquote snitch in this beef, that I accepted quote hush money from Drake, and that I was somehow in on the plan because I follow quote underaged high school girls.
First, I don't know anything about Drake and Lamar's beef because to me life is too short to hate and I don't follow it.
Second, I'm a hard-working journalist who holds elected officials and private entities accountable.
I don't have rappers on speed dial to be quote the mole or snitch.
The most revealing passage from this article related to Ebony Prince is connected to Alvarez's
explanation for what the supposedly "bad" deed had been that Drake had committed related to
disabled people, where Alvarez says, "There are rumors that a hotel security guard was fired for
letting me wait inside the hotel instead of leaving me out to freeze. I believe this is true and I feel
bad. I'm sorry to him and his family. Good people doing good things out of the kindness of their
heart should not be condemned and the Mark Hotel should reassess who they put at the top of the
chain. The Brooklyn Eagle has reached out to the Mark Hotel for comment and will update with their
response." So this likely reveals that Ebony Prince's allusion to the good men that suffered
as a result of some altercation came from Drake maybe forgetting to let Alvarez into the hotel,
leaving him out in the cold, and this being blamed on two staff members of the Mark who were then
Something along these lines.
Okay.
Yet, Ebony Prince was absolutely not fond of Alvarez's reply to him being mentioned.
As, obviously, it seems to say that whatever truth bomb he was sitting on, that he was trying to ransom for 800k, wasn't that big a deal and just involved two men working for the hotel getting fired for not letting Alvarez in.
Ebony Prince, for instance, tweeted, I am disappointed in Mr. Alvarez, but we all know the saying, birds of a feather.
Must have been a good check, but are you so stupid as to forget there is a video?
I cannot be bought.
Actually, you can.
800k.
That's literally what you're proposing!
Yeah, you named the price.
Some members of rslashdarkkenny decided to follow Ebony Prince's general line on the situation, as obviously Alvarez's explanation is boring.
It's not interesting.
It's not fun.
There's not a secret pedophile ring behind it that we can expose and find.
One user, for instance, in a post titled, we got to get to the bottom of this says, So the Alvarez article is up and it just seems very weird?
Some of the contents in the article, especially the last few paragraphs, seem to be off?
If there is some sinister shit going on involving children, animals, abuse, etc., we need to come together and solve this shit.
Well, that solves it there!
Because if there is, and there isn't, done!
You can log the fuck off!
It's an if statement.
Help your mom with the fucking dishes!
The top comment of the post agrees, replying, Never mention the oddity of it being 3am.
He was just up chilling, Drake knew, and asked him to come and listen to beats?
Or was he already in the hotel?
Drake's seen him, knew he was, then asked if he wanted to come and chill.
At 3am.
Is that what Drake likes to do, though?
I don't know, man.
This shit is weird.
Like, no, it's not.
It's weird because you can see the inside of your skull.
Yeah, it's like you've backed your, you're in the third person camera, you've backed up too close to the screen and you can see your eyeballs and teeth from inside your head.
Is the implication like 3am is when you do like child sex trafficking crimes, not when you just hang out with guys and listen to music?
Yeah, as if the show didn't go super late and, you know, it's like... I mean, you don't know that, but maybe it did.
Maybe it didn't.
Who cares?
3 a.m.
is not sus.
I stay up every single night till that time.
Just kidding.
Sometimes I get to bed.
I feel so bad.
I'm hungry.
This is torture for Julian.
This is awful.
It is torture.
It really is.
I feel so shit.
I'm so fucking furious.
My upper back hurts.
This is the one time I do feel bad torturing Julian.
Yeah, me too.
While some are still vaguely pushing the idea that Alvarez might still be a victim of sexual abuse, most in the Dark Kennedy subreddit now think that he may be an accomplice to sex crimes.
Other components of Ebony Prince's long list of confusing tweets, many of which read sort of like a Batman villain monologue, have given us sort of a vague idea of what he's actually claiming.
Although again, even figuring this out requires a lot of detective work, users on Reddit pieced together that he was likely a former employee of the Mark Hotel, given his access to CCTV footage, and had taken Drake's items from the quote-unquote lost and found when they weren't picked up by Drake's team.
He fed the photo of these goods to Kendrick at some point, which seemingly tipped off Drake and the Mark about who likely had them, and they're presumably pressing some sort of legal claim to get them back.
This is probably what he meant when he tweeted, You see, the minute you said stolen, you introduced a dilemma in my world.
More specifically, my professional world.
I have a very unique set of skills learned over a long career of working at this hotel.
Not again.
Not again!
Now, this doesn't explain a few things about Ebony Prince's tweets.
One of which is the allusions he makes to Drake committing some form of child sexual abuse that he seems to say that he's witnessed and that he won't stand by and just allow.
Indicated, for instance, in a tweet where he posted a photo of a certificate of completion for how to report child sexual abuse.
So now they're doing surveys online?
No, he's... It's like how you report it in a professional context is my understanding.
And it's like he's filled it out to deal with Drake.
Okay.
And a lot of his cryptic tweets have specifically egged on speculation about how Drake could possibly be connected to this.
One example being his continual encouragement of influencer Tisa Tells, who has gotten a lot of views on YouTube recently baking the shit out of this situation.
As an example, here's a clip from one of her videos titled, Christopher Alvarez confirms Drake did some disturbing things to him, which to be clear happened after the article from the Brooklyn Eagle was released.
It seems to be the running theory is that Drake used the LGBT community, specifically the House of Ebony, to host caviar parties.
Caviar parties are Diddy-style freak-alls that involve youngins, maybe animals, And definitely any other fetish.
Christopher Alvarez, it is assumed something bad happened to him while he was with Drake.
Kendrick seems to have known that's why he put that ventilator.
And when he said, Sandra, your boy's a 6'6 man, baby, he meant it.
I mean, these people clearly think that posting photos of Alvarez, like, connotes a child, but he's an adult with a disability.
Anyways, I just, there's so many goddamn layers.
It's awful.
It's awful.
But like Hugh, it seems like Ebony Prince has been like, kind of egging these sort of people on, saying like, you're on the right track, keep going.
So it's, it's something that he wants to kind of create.
Although I think most people have kind of gotten bored of him at this point, because he said he had some red button, some, you know, Moab.
So to speak, and he just hasn't released it.
But there's plenty of other bizarre bakes around this, some connected to Cat Williams and the idea of humiliation rituals, and also conspiracies about Kendrick owning an apartment near the Mercotel, which was used to gather info, and many, many more.
But this episode is already way too long, and you guys sort of gotten the gist of this point of all the insane stuff that's happened in the past few weeks following Kendrick and Drake's rap feud.
Wow, I did not have hiring a hitman on the dark web to do a Kung Fu Kenny to Jake and Liv on my bingo card for 2024, and whoa!
This one might have broken, Julian.
Ah, could you please, Corey, please put in the sound of a shotgun cocking?
Thank you.
Just two shots.
Yes, then put in two shots now.
Thank you.
You can't keep laughing because it breaks the whole kayfabe here.
Travis, how do you feel about all this?
Well, you know, I think it just reinforces that the human thirst for esoteric knowledge is bottomless.
We're so unsatisfied with what we know and our perception of the world, and we're constantly hopeful that, you know, there's something that's going to break this illusion.
something that'll sort of blow away the fog and make things clear because we feel so confused all the time.
And it just never comes. That moment of clarity, that moment where the veil is lifted, never ever ever happens.
So we're left to, you know, speculate and connect the dots and bake and then rely upon anonymous trolls on Twitter
forever.
You say it's bottomless, Travis, but it appears this story has many bottoms.
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I just spent a lot of money on a dark web assassin.
Okay?
I need this money, please.
And soon, down two employees.
So he's got a lot more work to do.
Yeah.
We've got a lot of money to pay the AI companies that are going to replace these two dolts.
Oh, you know what?
There's somebody aggressively knocking at my door.
I can see they've got black leather gloves on.
Let me just do the tagline really quick, and then I'm going to go answer that door and see who it is.
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