Premium Episode 227: Mike Lindell's Lumpy Pillows (Sample)
The deposition of Michael James Lindell AKA Mike Lindell AKA Mike Pillow. Some sort of drone he calls a "Wireless Monitoring Device" (WMD) designed to monitor voting machines. MyPillow's lumpy pillows. All this and more on this week's MyPillowTalk with MyQAA.
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Welcome, listener, to the 227th premium chapter of the QAA podcast, the Mike Lindell Melts Down episode.
As always, we are your hosts, Jake Rakitansky, Julian Field, and Travis View.
So we're starting to see some real consequences for the people who pushed baseless conspiracy theories about the 2020 election and helped participate in the events of January 6th, like many leaders of the Proud Boys have been handed hefty sentences for seditious conspiracy and other charges related to the breach of the U.S.
Capitol.
That includes Enrique Tarrio, the national chairman of the Proud Boys, who was sentenced to 22 years.
Apparently his lawyers tried to get his sentence reduced by appealing to Tarrio's work as a federal informant, but that did not work.
Oh, snitches get stitched up by the government because you're working for people who don't appreciate your fine work.
There might be a lesson there.
Yeah, of course, in Georgia, Donald Trump himself, he's booked on 13 counts stemming from his efforts to reverse Georgia's 2020 election results.
And those charges included racketeering, conspiracy charges, soliciting a public official to violate their oath of office.
And this is the fourth time this year the former president has faced criminal charges.
And this led to the first ever presidential mugshot.
Now, during our appearance on the Insurgents podcast, I said that I thought that Trump would have a shit-eating grin for his mugshot, but I was incorrect.
He instead chose to appear scowling.
Yeah, and he's clearly working on each one of the criminal charges and each one of the indictments being an episode in a TV show of some sort.
So we need a full season here.
Yeah, I love that he- I mean, the only reason that they took his mugshot is because he surrendered to Georgia authorities, and then he immediately turned this into a meme with his mugshot with the text that says, Never Surrender.
Like, I mean, it's like, it really is perfect.
Yeah, don't surrender, especially when you're surrendering.
Yeah, exactly, because it's totally nonsensical.
Here's evidence of you surrendering to authorities with the message of never surrender.
It's very, very Trumpian.
Of course, there are still some people who conspire to overturn the election who haven't yet been criminally charged.
I'm thinking of like Ali Alexander, Michael Flynn, Roger Stone.
We'll see if they ever, you know, face something serious because of these actions.
Yeah, that's the thing with the storm, Travis.
It's never satisfying.
No, you're right.
You're right.
I get it.
I get it.
You get a little taste.
You get greedy.
You want more.
There are some people up on the gallows, but some of my faves are not there.
No, no.
I want more.
Now that I've seen the possibilities.
Yeah, of course, you know, but no criminal charges.
Yeah, that doesn't mean no consequences at all.
I mean, some people are really hurting for their actions.
And I can think of no better example of this than my pillow CEO, Mike Lindell.
I mean, yeah.
This guy, I think, has had an extraordinary story.
I would love, once everything's said and done, I think he'll make for a fascinating biography.
Because, you know, he had this great Horatio Alger success story, going from like this homeless drug addict to multi-millionaire owner of a pillow and linen empire.
And he was probably able to achieve that kind of success thanks to his motor mouth and his unshakable self-confidence.
I wonder what those are symptoms of.
Well, I mean, yeah, yeah.
But one of the things, the symptom of it is his, I mean, his faith.
I think that he really thinks he is God's most faithful soldier.
And so everything he does is serving some sort of higher purpose.
And that seems to fuel him a lot when other things used to fuel him a little bit more.
I think that God has provided even through the Adderall shortage for him.
But those qualities that aided in his success are also leading to his downfall.
This is the classic, like, you're on speed at a party and you're having a great time, you're coming up, you're hanging out with everybody in a circle, you're smoking too many cigs, and then it's three hours later and nobody wants to talk to you for some reason and you have white paste at the edges of your mouth.
Yeah, I have no experience in this.
And I've never experienced that at all.
So but I relate somewhat to Mr. Michael.
So in light of recent events, I thought it'd be very useful to check in with him because I believe that Mike Lindell is one of the more fascinating characters we regularly cover on this podcast.
I often like to argue that, you know, there isn't a clean division between like, Grifters who use their platform to push nonsense and these clueless rubes who believe and share the nonsense.
And I think Mike Lindell exemplifies this better than anybody.
Like, he is a true believer.
There's really no indication, at least in my sense, that he pushes falsehoods about the election being stolen because he's cynical and it would be politically convenient if people believed Yeah, why wouldn't you whisper in his ear?
He pushes these lies because he really thinks it's true.
And he believes the lies that like other people whisper in his ear.
Like he is a mark.
He's a mark who's like at one point was worth like nine figures.
Yeah, why wouldn't you whisper in his ear?
The man is like an ATM.
Yes, true.
It's like, I mean, Mike Lindell has made many people in his circle, I'm sure, very wealthy.
But he happens to be a Mark, you know, he's just achieved incredible, you know, financial success and used his wealth to get close to then-President Trump.
And remember, like, he was really involved in this stuff.
So in the period after January 6, before Trump left office, Mike Lindell even met with Trump About a last ditch effort to prevent Biden from becoming president.
So he was spotted entering the Oval Office while carrying documents that seemed to outline another coup strategy.
The documents were only partially visible, but they contained a suggestion about invoking the Insurrection Act and also the phrase martial law, if necessary, was used.
And one line appears to suggest that moving the Trump loyalist Kash Patel to the position of acting CIA director just Absolute madness.
I think we all know that we want Laura Loomer instead.
This is like a kid, like a teenager who like wakes up at, you know, in the middle of the night and he's like, Oh man, I've got, I've got a brilliant idea for a screenplay.
You know, having never written, you know, maybe never even watching a movie before.
He's like, Oh, I got this idea.
And he's just like scribbling down, you know, scribbling down in a notebook, like car explosion here, underwater chase scene goes here.
And then, Yeah, I think the only mistake in that is that the person was asleep and woke up.
on the door of Universal Studios or something.
Yeah, I think the only mistake in that is that the person was asleep and woke up.
I think this person's been up for days and this is more like a scrawled down, like a
Coke manifesto.
Yeah, this teenager actually has been up for four days straight.
Yeah, this is tweaker shit.
And I really, I think it's very funny that he had like some intern type it up in like Calibri font instead of just delivering the madman's scrawl itself.
So, you know, the New York Times actually asked Lindell about those documents, and he claimed that some attorney, which he would not name, gave him these documents to hand to Trump.
So Lindell was quoted as saying this.
The attorney said, can you bring these to him?
It was stuff to help the American people.
So, some attorney who probably knew that this was a real Hail Mary was like, listen, I'm not going to give this to Trump himself.
Could you do it for me?
And Mike Lindell said, yes!
To help the American people.
I'm all about it.
Absolutely.
I see that you are not interested in committing a crime.
I will bring the documents myself.
Here are various drawings that a kindergarten class made of Hillary Clinton in jail.
But more than two and a half years after those events, Lindell's participation in pushing these lies is starting to catch up to him in a serious way.
Now, there's no reporting at this time that he faces any criminal liability.
There was some reporting that the FBI was looking into him, but I don't know.
That seems to have fizzled out.
There's no indication that's leading anywhere.
We'll see.
I don't know.
They got a lot of cool fast food runs out of it.
Yeah, but he does potentially face very serious civil liability and not to mention the devastation to his reputation and finances.
Yeah.
If Mike Lindell is to be believed, his involvement in these election lies cost him his fortune.
Which is believable because starting in 2021, sales of MyPillow plummeted and even retailers who carry the product dropped it because, you know, it's bad for the brand.
Things got so bad that MyPillow auctioned off hundreds of pieces of equipment and subleased some manufacturing spaces.
In an interview with the Star Tribune, Lindell said that this dire situation was caused by, of course, cancel culture.
He got MeToo'd.
I slept badly last night.
My neck hurts.
Me too.
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