Episode 244 Florida Flynn Saves The Children In Sarasota
QAnon figures have completely taken over the conservative activist organization America’s Future, Inc. Under the guidance of chairman of the Board Michael Flynn, they’re hosting events to radicalize Florida residents with a cartoonish conception of human trafficking.
We explore how America’s Future, Inc. got its start as an anti-New Deal publication in the late 30s founded by publishing tycoon Frank Gannett. We also break down their recent event in Sarasota, Florida, where attendees were treated to wild horror stories of child abuse, complete with burlap bags, chains, and adrenochrome harvesting. Will this lead to real estate agents performing raids on houses they think are trafficking hubs? I guess we’ll find out.
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REFERENCES
Polenberg, Richard. "The National Committee to Uphold Constitutional Government, 1937–1941." Journal of American History 52.3 (1965): 582-598.
http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/12-2018%20Files/UWSP%20Folders/Box%2019/Box%2019-107.pdf
Welcome, listener, to Chapter 244 of the QAnon Anonymous Podcast, the Florida Flynn Saves the Children in Sarasota episode.
As always, we are your hosts, Jake Rakitansky, Julian Fields, and Travis View.
Now, we are coming up on six years since the first QDROP back in October of 2017, and in all those years, their record, the record of the entire QAnon community for actually saving children, I have to say, is pretty dismal.
So there are many children who remain unsaved, but there's at least one organization that's trying to recruit and educate people to save these children, and that is America's Future, Inc.
Of course.
Of course.
America's Future, Inc.
Like, it's a Simpsons joke.
Yeah.
I mean, what the fuck?
America's Future, Incorporated, a for-profit company.
Like, you don't even know if these children are going to grow up and even like America.
And at this point- No, they're going to be communists.
Yeah.
At this point, they're going to rebel against your conservative ways.
So, America's Future, Inc.
just so happens to have as its chairman of the board General Michael Flynn.
He's a busy boy, Mikey Flynn.
On August 17th, America's Future, Inc.
hosted an event in Sarasota, Florida, and they gave it the very generic name of the Florida State Summit 2023 by Don't be fooled.
The point of the summit was to promote a cartoonish conception of the problem of child exploitation and trafficking in the style of QAnon, and then encourage people to take action based upon this distorted conception of the problem.
So here's how the event was described on this website.
Attendees to the Florida State Summit 2023 will learn the facts and truth about the crisis of child exploitation and trafficking in the state of Florida and across the country, and what they can do in their community to help end this war on children.
The event will include remarks by General Mike Flynn, America's future board chair.
The summit will be moderated by Lara Logan.
Man, I love the idea of him as, like, a general in the war against demons attempting to abduct children.
That's, like, where he is now.
This is a man who was in charge of, like, JSOC.
I know, and they've now made him, like, a character in Spawn.
Yeah, they've made him into Florida Flint.
Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah, we discussed the possibility of flying all the way over there and going ourselves.
But the thing is that some of the organizers and the participants know of us.
So the chances of us getting made and getting kicked out were extremely high.
We've gone to the well one too many times.
So last time I had contact with those people, one of them told me, you made fun of us on your podcast.
That wasn't nice.
Yeah.
And, um, I didn't really know what to say.
I was like, sorry.
But we did correspond with someone who did attend the event and the main panel was live
streamed so we can sort of pick apart exactly what happened here.
So and I think covering this event and sort of like examining some of its more interesting elements is useful because it helps us sort of more closely examine the state of modern American conspiracism.
It neatly illustrates to the degree that like QAnon type conspiracy theories have become very normal in right-wing activism.
The event also shows how these shocking stories about horrifying human trafficking has become a go-to strategy for recruiting activists for the conservative cause.
The fact that this event was put on by America's Future, Inc.
is interesting because it is one of the oldest conservative activist organizations in the country.
So since Flynn took over in 2021, the group hired his sister, Mary O'Neill, as executive director and appointed Joseph Flynn to its board of directors.
OK.
Whole family's moving in.
Yeah, you know, they totally took over.
In fact, you know, most of the current board of America's Future, Inc.
are mostly people we've talked about on this podcast because of their connections to QAnon.
So the board includes Larry Logan, a former CBS journalist who got very, very pilled and
then was banned from appearing on the far right news channel Newsmax because she said
that world leaders dine on the blood of children.
Hmm.
They dine.
That's a bit different than ritual like kind of sacrifice.
It's just like, yeah, no, they set the table.
They opened the little bell jar.
Yeah.
They're like Cornelius, bring over, bring over a couple more spoons, please.
I'm missing my brain spoon.
I would like some extra walnut sauce, please.
Then they just like sit around the table being like, ah, have.
Delectable!
Have you seen Sound of Freedom yet?
Absolutely fantastic!
James, see if you can organize a private screening in the theater downstairs after supper.
Jim Caviezel looks like we've made him cry throughout the whole movie.
Another member of this board is Tracy Diaz.
And of course, under the name Tracy Beans, she was instrumental in helping QAnon make the jump from 4chan to mainstream social media networks back in 2017.
And still another board member is Mike Smith.
He is a former Hollywood stuntman who got really pilled after suffering from a career-ending injury, and he subsequently made the Q-Pilled movie Out of Shadows.
And the last third of Out of Shadows is basically an endorsement of Pizzagate, not just Vague, you know, the elites are pedophiles kind of way, but like the belief that references to food in the Podesta emails are really code words for abusing children.
America's Future, Inc.
has a decades long history, and I thought it was really interesting that they're willing to welcome QAnon promoters into their leadership in a time when most old conservative organizations tried to keep QAnon at arm's distance.
Now, the website for America's Future, Inc.
doesn't give a lot of information about their own history and their own origins.
They say that the organization was founded in New York in 1946 and was dedicated to the promotion and preservation of American values and traditions.
This included anti-communist pamphleteering, according to their description.
One of America's future's earliest foes was the rising threat of communism throughout the 1940s, 1950s, and beyond.
The Cold War had no greater warrior on the side of freedom.
I wouldn't say throughout the 1940s because that makes it seem like you were with Hitler, like, at least for the first half of that decade, but hey, just me.
The Cold War had no greater warrior on the side of freedom than America's future.
Calling on our nation's long tradition of political pamphleteering, we distributed millions of copies of short books and pamphlets designed to combat creeping communism on our own shores.
Man, I love the Cold War.
It's so cool.
Anti-communism has done so many great things for this country.
It's one thing that everybody can get behind.
Yeah, good luck with your medical bills.
Yeah, it's a unifying, it's a unifying policy.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
Almost more important than getting rid of Nazis.
Almost.
Just right, right under there.
So, I mean, the story is, I mean, it's believable.
I mean, the idea of, like, you know, an anti-communist nonprofit founded, like, right at the beginning of the Cold War, that's a, you know, that's a, that tracks.
But I was kind of, like, struck by how few details this description offers.
You know, even as small as something like, OK, who are the people who founded the organization?
Would you say that the organization is attempting to secure America's future for their children?
Founded in 1946?
Interesting.
Yeah, interesting you would pick that specific year.
Yeah, they're like, we definitely weren't doing anything before that.
But anyways, we're worried about the future and we want to save the children.
Jesus Christ.
So I dug into some, uh, some history papers and some old newspaper articles, and I learned, uh, two things.
Number one, America's Future, Inc.
actually dates back to the late thirties and its founder is the publishing tycoon, Frank Gannett.
Wow, that's so interesting they would place their foundation after World War Two ended instead of right as it began.
Yeah, it is odd.
I mean, especially it's odd that they don't credit Frank Gannett with their founding, which is, I don't know, if that's the guy who made your organization happen, it means you'd think you'd be worth mentioning on your website one time.
Nothing to see here.
Nothing to see here, folks.
Surprisingly absent.
We're just anti-communists in 1939.
There's nothing to see here.
Nothing suspicious about that.
So Gannett got rich by buying these small independent newspapers and growing them and connecting them.
And by the 1930s, he owned the third largest newspaper chain in the country.
He also became very unhappy with the presidential administration of Franklin Roosevelt after initially being a supporter.
But this unhappiness was probably due to the fact that Gannett's business was being impacted by New Deal legislation.
In the most notable instance, the newly formed National Labor Relations Board found that a Gannett-owned newspaper engaged in unfair labor practices by discouraging membership with the Newspaper Guild, surveilling union activity of employees, and harassing Guild members until they quit.
And Gannett's company was subsequently ordered to rehire the discharged Guild members with back pay.
And this radicalized them apparently.
Uh huh.
There's like, I guess there's no, there's no conclusive evidence that, that this is what happened, but the sequence of events and the fact that I even read some, some contemporaneous sort of like labor newsletters that basically said the same thing.
In 1937, which also happens to be the same year that this labor dispute started.
Gannett founded an organization dedicated to opposing FDR and New Deal legislation called the National Committee to Uphold Constitutional Government.
Now, among the handful of conservative organizations that sprung up during this time, it was the most successful in blocking FDR's agenda.
And other captains of industry who supported Gannett's crusade included Robert L. Lund, who is the president of the Manufacturers Association, and Robert E. Wood.
He was the president of Sears Roebuck & Company.
And they were willing to spend enormous amounts of money for their fight.
I found a 1938 newsletter from the Labor Research Association which claimed that the organization spent $328,000 in less than a year, which is the equivalent of over $7 million today.
Yeah, it's better than paying your employees.
I know.
Yeah, it seems it seems like it would be just cheaper to treat your employees in ways that comply with the law.
But think of the back end.
Once you crush the unions, then you're saving money.
I mean, it's either that or he just he just was not getting used to being pushed because, you know, All of a sudden the labor movement had a friend in the federal government and that was just intolerable.
So he would sooner burn his fortune than be pushed around by these guys.
Thank God we've got another FDR in office right now.
There's a 1965 article in the Journal of American History, and it detailed the history of the organization by historian Richard Polenberg.
It noted that, quote, "...the committee played a prominent part in the defeat of Roosevelt's attempts to enlarge the Supreme Court, reorganize the executive branch of government, and purge the Democratic Party of conservatives."
And in 1938, Gannett started publishing an anti-FDR magazine called America's Future.
Uh-huh.
That same Journal of American History article stated that the magazine was founded to get around restrictions related to running a nominally nonpartisan organization.
The committee was inhibited by its nonpartisan status, which did not permit it openly to endorse political candidates.
Late in July, however, Gannett founded the magazine America's Future.
He thought it prudent to keep the publication, quote, entirely separate from the committee, but hoped it would be a powerful implement in fighting the New Deal.
Also in 1938, Gantt started publishing books through a company called America's Future, Inc.
And that's basically the start.
And I very, again, it is unclear why they keep claiming that it was founded in 1946 when it has a history that's longer than that.
And I noticed that there are lots of news outlets when writing about America's Future, Inc., they kind of repeat this 1946 founding claim.
Maybe they're using, you know, founded in a very narrow, specific kind of way.
And there's something happened in 1946, but even then it's simply not true that it was like, you know, it started in 1946.
It started in the late thirties and it was started by this publishing magnet by, uh, that is not mentioned at all on the current website of America's Future, Inc.
Look at us.
We are under the yoke of FDR.
And look at Germany thriving under Adolf Hitler.
He knows how to take care of the unions.
Travis, why on earth would we reference something that happened in 1938?
This was four lifetimes ago.
It has no business in the blurb on our website.
Why is there an alien landing on Earth to tell us this?
What the fuck kind of voice is that?
These people are alien.
I mean, obviously.
If you poke a couple holes in them, a giant cockroach in a human suit's gonna pop out.
Just like Meet the Applegates.
Remember that movie?
Nope.
Huh.
So, throughout the years, they've been kind of a pioneer in reactionary propaganda.
All the way back in 1944, they published a clearly fake conversation with a supposedly black hotel maid to promote the idea that there were these welfare queens who would rather subsist on Roosevelt's handouts than work.
And this propaganda caused the NAACP to rebuke America's Future, Inc.
Now we have some guy with a dyed red beard doing the same bullshit.
It's cool.
I love history.
Starting in 1958, they launched what they called the Textbook Evaluation Committee, and its purpose was to identify and root out supposedly subversive elements contained in school textbooks.
So this was really a precursor to Moms for Liberty.
Again, they seemed pretty ahead of their time in these ways.
They've also been really active in denying the effects of climate change over the decades.
And interestingly, I learned that Michael Flynn is not the first former military intelligence officer to lead America's Future, Inc.
So, Robert Morris, who served as a Navy intel officer during World War II, and he was called one of America's foremost authorities on intelligence and national security.
And, uh, he became the chairman of the board of America's Future, Inc.
in 1989 and the president in 1995.
So this is, um, it's just weird.
I don't know.
I don't quite know why I had to go through so much difficulty to find out the history of this organization.
Well, you know.
You know, if I go to Carl's Jr., uh, the website for Carl's Jr., they're going to tell me all about Carl Karcher's, uh, hot dog stand and how he grew that into a fast food empire.
I'm going to learn all about Carl's Jr.
And how he was a Nazi.
Hey, wait a minute.
How do you know so much about Carl's Jr.?
Sometimes when I go to Carl's Jr., I read like the little plaques that they have on the wall that talks about the history.
So, yeah.
That's actually most of Travis's reading is plaques and fast food restaurants.
Well, I mean, he's really he's he's going back to the olden days when we didn't have phones and you and if you wanted to read something while you were eating, you were sort of beholden to whatever was printed on the back of the fries tin, you know?
Or the cereal box.
I mean, that was most of my reading growing up.
Placemats, back of the cereal box mazes.
Yeah, yeah.
Back of the cereal box mazes.
What is going?
Why would you?
There's no possible... Alright.
Well, in the past, America's Future, Inc.
was run by these business tycoons who just hated the thought of the government cracking down on them for whatever reason.
Nowadays, it's run by QAnon promoters, and that probably explains why the organization has pivoted towards saving the children.
Last year, America's Future launched something they call the Project Defend and Protect Our Children, and the core tenets, according to them, is to expose, educate, and eradicate child trafficking.
Now, if they were sincere, that'd be a noble goal, but I don't think they're serious about this.
And this is partly due to the advisory board that oversees Project Defend and Protect Our Children.
They call this advisory board the Little Flower Advisory Board.
I don't know why, but that's what they call it.
Oh, what the fuck?
This is getting bad.
What is wrong with these people?
And one member of this board is Liz Croken, and she is an OG Pizzagate and QAnon promoter.
Famously, she is the woman who's responsible for pilling Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Another member of this advisory board is Brian Gamble, and he's the president of Red Pill Roadshow, at least he was when it still existed, and they hosted a couple of QAnon live events that we've covered on the podcast.
So QAnon promoters, out-and-out QAnon promoters just crawling all over this organization.
The event I'm covering for this episode is just the first in a series of gatherings that America's Future, Inc.
has and will host on the same topic.
For example, the day after this event, they had another special event for Realders and first responders who want to be able to identify and fight child trafficking.
I don't like where this is going.
I'll sell you a house, but is that really your daughter?
I know, Jesus Christ.
You have some questions for me about central air, but I have some questions for you about the DNA of your daughter!
Fucking hell, this country is so demented.
It's so demented.
Realtors.
Realtors.
Realtors, yeah.
The front lines of fighting human trafficking is somebody who, uh...
Always be closing the zipper of child sex traffickers.
Jesus.
That was more graphic than it needed to be.
It's not good.
I fucked up.
Here's how the real estate agent event for the for fighting human trafficking was described.
Learn the tactics of predators and traffickers and leverage your knowledge gained from this
program to spot a trafficking house, identify a trafficked victim, and how to intervene and
file a report. This is a masterclass in anti-trafficking strategies recommended
for real estate agents and brokers, first responders, and home appraisers.
I can imagine like a home appraiser just, you know, walking through a house, making notes,
and then deciding that, you know, actually your children are being trafficked and you need to,
they need to be rescued.
Yeah.
They're like, they got one eye on the marble countertops and the other eye on your children to see if they're exhibiting signs of fear.
But the real money is an upcoming event that will be hosted this November and it's called Fight Child Sex Trafficking Comprehensive Equipping Course.
Oh my god.
This is a six day long course.
It's pretty long and it costs $650 to attend.
Yes, but when you leave you will be the Van Helsing using your arbalest to pierce pedophiles.
That's essentially what it promises.
Like if you watch Sound of Freedom and you thought, this representation of Tim Ballard is so fucking cool.
I want to be just like him.
Then this is basically the course for you.
So in just a few days of training, it'll teach you, you know, how to be a pedo hunter.
And this is what it says that it will teach you.
I gotta say, before we go into this bullet point list, it seems sort of like, you know, not maybe the best for business if you as a realtor are going into every situation first with an eye on whether there's trafficking.
You know, if somebody comes in to buy a house and they feel like You know, maybe the realtor is kind of suspicious of them.
They're asking weird questions about the children and all of this stuff.
You're probably not going to be inclined to buy a house from that person, therefore leading to an absence of a commission.
So it sort of seems, you know, counterproductive if, you know, your job is to sell houses.
Yeah, but having a shitty job in this dumbass economy?
Not as cool as being an angelic child saver.
A hero, Jake.
You could be eternal.
I mean, you couldn't, because you're Jewish, so you're one of the child traffickers, but they could be eternal for outing you.
Yeah, I'm just imagining, like, open house today and the realtor, like, opens the door with, like, a, you know, a sidearm equipped to, you know, Real-time, ground-truth vantage into the criminal enterprise of sex trafficking, gangs, and organized crime.
or whatever other gear they think is cool and want to purchase on Amazon.
Real-time, ground-truth vantage into the criminal enterprise
of sex trafficking, gangs, and organized crime.
Who is doing what, where, and how.
Tradecraft for acquiring information and conducting rescues of trafficking victims.
Interactive training on counter surveillance, surveillance detection routes.
Conducting a safe pickup and transport.
Interactive training on planning a rescue operation.
What a real safe house is and what it must have.
How to build trust with a victim slash survivor to skillfully evaluate their situation.
This is just so everybody wants to LARP as an agent.
Yeah.
Everybody wants to be- They're gonna be abducting people's children.
Yeah, everybody wants to be- This is child abduction.
They're like, fuck this job.
I can be Tom Cruise in Mission Impossible in my everyday life.
Everybody wants to be fighting a war.
We've somehow hammered in this idea that just existing is not good enough.
You have to be in your own movie where you are the hero.
Honey, I just got cold cocked by the realtor who came over to assess our home.
So yeah, so this Florida Summit, it's really the entry point for one of many other events that the organizers hope to, you know, funnel the audience into.
My source who attended the Florida Summit told me that there were about 500 people in attendance and they were mostly older women.
He told me that he counted maybe 10 people who looked to be in their 20s.
Before the event, they screened Mike Smith's sequel to Out of Shadows.
This is a movie called Into the Light and It's not very interesting if you're already familiar with conspiracist narratives, but it is notable that they're basically just showing the films, promoting films, of an unambiguous Pizzagate promoter.
In fact, in her opening remarks, Mike Flynn's sister, Mary O'Neill, gave a full-throated endorsement to Mike Smith and his Pizzagate-promoting films.
Tonight, of course, our newest board member, Michael Smith.
Mike's movie, Into the Light, which many of you watched earlier.
If you haven't, please pass it on and watch it.
It's a very important message.
And his blockbuster, Out of Shadows.
They're both masterpieces of filming, filmmaking, and a riveting production exposing the deception, tactics used to manipulate reality to control our lives.
We need to reinstate the bingo halls.
We need to bring back Bridge for these poor, poor people.
We actually just need to bring back Blockbuster.
Can you imagine going through the aisles and you're looking at all the white boxes behind and you're like, hmm, the client, no, already seen this.
Hmm, training day, it's rated R, I won't be allowed to watch that.
Ooh, Out of Shadows.
Ooh, ooh, ooh.
Are there any copies behind?
Oh, we better check the front counter and see if somebody returned one.
Well, Blockbuster was shut down because it's a bit like Wayfair.
You could buy children.
The movies, like Amelie, that's a French girl you can buy.
Yeah, they came in the cases.
They had to laminate the children.
Little shrunken children, little tiny shrunken children, like shrinky dinks.
You put them in the oven, they shrink down to a nice little... No, you put them in water.
You put them in water and they expand.
But they look kind of bloated and malformed and like, they're not really like children, but it's like, you tell yourself.
You tell yourself.
Yeah, you grow in water, you fill the bathtub with water, you put in the little tiny rubber children, and then you put it in and it grows to full size and it's yours.
I don't, I don't like it.
Before the event really kicked off, Lara Logan introduced a woman named Linz Piper Loomis to say a prayer, and Logan used this introduction to set the tone of the event.
Now I'd like to ask Linz Piper Loomis if she will come up and say a prayer for us.
Linz is a survivor of satanic ritual abuse.
She has a book if you want to read about it.
She's one of the people, I guess they say, doesn't exist, right?
Because it's just a conspiracy theory.
Okay, so we're back to the 80s and the graphics are also back to the 80s.
Yeah, that is some like Dare era stuff.
I mean, I guess we're all just reliving our childhoods and teenage years as the Empire falls.
So why not?
A lot of the panel consisted of telling horrifying stories of child sex slavery.
And the level of detail was, I don't know, for me, sometimes gratuitous.
I got the feeling the point was to shock and horrify rather than actually inform.
And since they gave no corroborating evidence about these stories, I mean, they were basically impossible to fact check.
One of the wildest stories was told by a woman named Tina Boz and she is with the organization The Association for the Recovery of Children.
She told a story about a child who was abused and passed around and enslaved throughout her childhood by multiple people and I don't know how much truth there might be to the story.
What we know from these people, typically what happens is that they take some genuine stories of child sex trafficking and that kind of thing, and they add embellishments on it, and then they just know that no one's going to be able to check whether or not what they're saying is actually strictly true.
But if it were true, it would be the most horrifying case of child abuse ever recorded.
And the story got more and more unbelievable as she continued to talk, but here's how she opened.
Her parents ran out of money and she was the youngest and at seven years old her father sold her for a payoff to a child pornographer here in Florida who had a house with 13 children all Ages 7 to 12.
And he would film them for pornography and sell the pornography and he would also sell the children to high-end buyers who would come to the house to rape the children because it was all kept under wraps.
Her father was connected with this man in business.
There's no way that there isn't a circuit of businessmen that are participating in this behavior.
I don't know.
It's like, why are you saying these things, not naming names or giving details?
Where is this psychopath with a baker's dozen of children in his house?
There are so many real stories that you could point to that are verifiable and you could say the names.
But the problem is, is that usually if you have a story about horrible child abuse, you know about it because the perpetrators were caught and punished for the crimes, which does no use to them.
You know, nobody in this crowd wants to hear that there are people out there that are doing, you know, absolutely just awful, awful things to children, teenagers, and that they've been caught and are, you know, serving jail sentences.
It works better when the threat is this vague, sort of ambiguous boogeyman that's sort of out there waiting to be caught, maybe by you!
In Tina Baza's telling, when this child turned 12, she was sold to another human trafficker who then arranged for her to be abused in hotel rooms with men.
And at this point is when the story, like, really started to fall apart for me.
But the children were dressed in burlap bags.
That's how they were delivered to these motels.
Don't tell me that the motels didn't know that these kids were trafficked.
I don't, I think they would just dress them in normal clothes.
Yeah, this is, she's been listening to one too many Jake stories, as in my Epstein Island story where the children were dressed in burlap sacks, but I made that up because it was so ridiculous and, you know, I believe they meant to be a joke.
Property of the Clinton Foundation.
Yeah, exactly.
She's one breath away from saying property of the Clinton, you know, stamped on it.
I mean, come on.
Yeah, a burlap bag is nowadays much harder to acquire than children's clothes.
So I wouldn't know exactly where I would go to go acquire a child-size burlap sack.
What, you haven't been to the burlap bag section at Target?
There's a whole section now next to the children's clothing.
Anyways, this pedophile put a disc on the gramophone and he served the children cocaine wine.
It's like everybody knows the best way to keep your trafficked child from detection by the authorities is by placing them in a big burlap sack where they are wriggling and screaming.
Like, come on.
It is hard.
It's like, because they know what they're doing.
You can't really make fun of this.
It's not funny.
But isn't it funny to imagine a child wearing a barrel?
No, I don't think so.
I do want to say one thing.
One element that I guess is at least conceivably true is the idea that hotels are used for sex trafficking.
Yeah, of course.
But they're dressing the kid up so it could be their kid.
It's like, why the details that aren't even that horrifying?
Oh, they're burlap bags.
Why?
This is just for fun.
You sick fuck.
You're making shit up for fun.
If you are a real sick fuck, it seems like it would call attention to your operation.
It just, yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
But I do want to say that, like, according to a 2018 Polaris survivor story, more than 60%
of sex trafficking victims said that they were forced to sell sex from hotels.
So, you know, this is something that is certainly worth concern about.
And it's worth pointing out that, you know, people have argued that even these hotel chains
should be able to be sued by these trafficking victims because they're so negligent in allowing
traffickers to operate out of them.
So, yeah, that element, at least, is conceivably true.
And the important element here is that we're not talking about children.
We're talking about people who were sex trafficked, which means they were forced
into prostitution. They have a pimp, probably, or some kind of person like that keeping them
in this situation.
So again, not children in burlap bags for the majority here, I'm pretty sure.
So, in Tina Baza's story, it got much, much worse for the young victim.
At age 13, I think 12 or 13, she was sold as a personal sex slave along with another child that was part of her group.
Then she was actually sold to a member of a crime ring.
I can't get into details on that because the case is too delicate, but she was owned by a member of a crime ring.
That man was assassinated by another man who took her as a slave, chained her by her neck in a pool house where she never saw the light of day for two years.
Okay.
What the fuck, man?
What the fuck is wrong with these people?
I don't know.
Cause like, it is, I mean, this, this whole story, I was like, I read, uh, when I was like researching, uh, like, you know, uh, Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell, I read a lot of victim statements and lawsuits about what they experienced with that.
And it was never like this, you know, it was, it was horrifying and abusive, um, in unspeakable ways, but just the, I don't know, the, just the, there's this Hollywood element to our story that just is outside the realm of reality.
Now, at this point, the story gets into taken territory.
So, Tina claims that the child was chained by the neck and sold in an auction that had approximately a hundred bidders.
Then she was sold to an auction.
I was shocked.
What do you mean an auction?
Yeah, I was sold.
There were 20 of us who were chained by our necks with chains down to handcuffs behind our backs, and we were held in a storage unit.
Chain to a pipe that went across the ceiling and and the chains were really tight so he couldn't lay down and Then we were taken to an auction.
What was the auction?
Where was it here here in floor here close?
I can't tell you where in a warehouse with hundreds of people hundreds of people bidding to buy them Okay.
Case closed.
Florida's awful.
Your state sucks.
We need to get rid of the whole state.
Either that or the fact that you can't share any fucking details because this is quote-unquote delicate means you're full of shit.
We were sold in an auction.
It was on a large, expensive boat.
And one of the traffickee's fathers came and he fought the head trafficker.
He had two knives.
They fought to the death.
Yeah.
It's just movie bullshit.
Who the fuck knows?
the chain along the ceiling, the storage container.
I mean, this really does feel like something out of taken.
Now, that's not to say that this has never happened.
There are, you know, stories that- There are stories where-
Who the fuck knows?
Like that horrible family that kept all of the girls locked in different rooms in their
houses- That was their own father!
Yes, exactly, exactly.
There are stories where kids are restrained and kept, but nothing on this, at least that's ever been reported that we know, on this scale of Hollywood-esque style villainy.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, yeah, I was like, what, in a warehouse in Florida, there are just hundreds of people bidding on children?
I mean, that would be, I think, like, the most horrifying child sex trafficking crime ever recorded.
It's like, if you know about this, why can't you, like, you know, find one of these hundreds of people who participate in this?
It's just, it's just, it's very hard to believe.
Why can't they just do a whole conference about how we don't know what were on those DVDs in the safe that the FBI got off Epstein Island?
This is real shit that is being hidden.
Yeah.
And it's like, you gotta do this instead.
You're helping them.
Yeah.
You're helping them get away with this shit.
Yeah, it's like, oh, like the Florida police are like, hey, Sarge, we've got a hundred limousines showing up to a warehouse on the docks.
Seems fishy.
Should we check it out?
Nah.
This is going to be a GTA mod now.
So it got worse because the child, according to Tina Boz, was sold and then chipped and then tattooed with a barcode.
Doesn't make sense.
Barcodes aren't.
Barcodes are needed for it when there's industrial production to recognize like hundreds, thousands of items.
God damn it.
But then they took me to a cage where I waited for the person who bought me.
And they chipped me in my arm with a GPS locator and they tattooed a barcode on my arm.
It was 12 characters long.
It said, white female for sex or labor and my code number.
And it was literally on her arm.
It doesn't... That's not even how barcodes work.
And the other thing is that, well, shit, now you've got some really remarkable physical evidence of its truth.
Why?
Can we, can we see this barcode?
I mean, is this, I mean, you've got, you've got some, you've got some hard evidence of that this is true.
This evil cabal that's selling these, uh, these children like they're watermelons kind of made a stupid move when they decided to, um, you know, permanently, uh, mark these children with tattoos and, you know, be able to trace everything back to them.
So why there should be...
Lots of lots of evidence of this habit, whatever.
Yeah, I know when I commit a heinous crime I definitely want to create a permanent marking on the victim that traces directly back to me and my crime ring.
Barcodes, this is like- Barcodes, crime rings, warehouses, crates.
They're imagining the industrialization of child trafficking.
Yes, yes, that's exactly what it is.
It's- I was trying to put my finger on it.
I was like, this is a scene from from Taken or what, but it's just this.
No, it's way bigger than that.
Yeah, it is, it's exactly that.
It's fantasizing about the, yeah, industrialization of a real crime, but none of the real crimes
are sort of exhibited here.
And Tina's telling the child managed to free herself.
And by the way, she started speaking in I sentences, so it's just very--
Yeah, well, what she's doing is that she claims she's relaying what she was told.
Sure, sure, sure.
She's fucking channeling it.
She got brave.
I love this girl.
She found a letter opener in a drawer.
Because he chained her to his bed.
He chained her to his bed.
He chained her to his bed.
And she was held there.
But when he would go away, she would search the drawers.
She found a letter opener.
When he came back, and this was several days later, she jumped on top of him and put the letter opener to his neck and said, unchain me.
And he did.
He unclasped her neck, her slave collar.
And then she cut the GPS out of her arm with the letter opener.
And she ran naked to a gas station that she could find.
I just... Like PTA moms getting together to fucking come up with this shit.
Fuck you.
So, in Tina's telling, the child finally escapes, joins a church.
But somehow, even then, the nightmare doesn't end.
Because this child was trafficked again by a church leader and a law enforcement officer.
According to Tina, even the worst, the child was tortured and had her blood harvested while she was being tortured.
This is just an expression of the adrenochrome myth.
This didn't happen.
This is made up.
She went through a lot of torture.
One of the things that was done to her by this church leader and this law enforcement officer is she was harvested for blood.
And I said, what was that?
What was that?
How did they do that?
Well, they took me for seven nights in a row.
They took me to an underground medical facility at night.
The whole building was shut down.
It was locked.
We went down to the bottom floor.
I would lay on a metal table and they would torture me and electrocute me Well, they were giving me a blood transfusion.
Describe that.
She described it in detail.
They had bags and bags of blood, whole carts full of blood on this side.
And they were infusing blood into this arm, electrocuting her and torturing her and cutting her and draining the blood out of this arm and putting it into bags of blood.
She was being harvested for her blood.
She died.
She died during that experience and they resuscitated her to continue.
Come on, lady.
I mean, they're pumping blood, other people's blood into her now?
To use her as a factory?
To adrenochromize the blood?
I mean, this is fucking bonkers.
I wonder if these folks are morally okay with lying because they see this serving as a parable.
You know, it's almost like...
The story has the kind of biblical elements to me, where it's like, "For seven days she lay on the table,
like, you know, being electrocuted.
One arm filled with blood, one arm filled with electrodes.
Seven days and seven nights."
It's just like... I don't know.
I feel like even if I'm in an audience and I'm here for this,
I'm like, "Well, you don't have any other details?"
You don't have any pictures of the mark where she cut the chip out?
You don't have pictures of the barcodes?
You don't have like... I don't know.
This is just, this went from like kind of fun to like kind of not.
I want to go to that conference and f*** every single person there.
I mean...
I wonder how much of this that Tina Boz actually believes because, you know, it kind of reminds me of like when there's this part in the trickle-down series I did when I talked about 19th century American feminists who were rightly outraged by the way that women were being treated and sexually exploited and assaulted in traffic.
And so they knew what was happening.
And so they sort of, um, they decided that they would, you know, get these stories out into the newspapers and they were fine with sometimes exaggerating what they found and what they knew and what they investigated for the sake of this activism.
And I wonder if these people are just like, well, you know, it's like, it's, it's basically happening like this.
And even if I, even if I spice up a few details to titillate the boomers who, uh, who come to us and talked and want to hear about sex trafficking, that's fine because it's good for a good cause.
Yeah, but they are making up extreme torture, sexual torture and rape fantasies for each other.
These are fucking sick people.
It is pretty sick.
I mean, it really is like, you know, I mean, they're going together in a place in Florida to tell each other these spooky horror stories, you know.
Might as well have a fire in the middle of the room so they can, you know, scare each other.
Yeah, I'd love a fire in the middle of the room and then it spreads and they're all ****.
So finally, Tina gets to the point of her story, and that's that this child only suffered these horrors because everyday people saw her and did nothing.
But this was not a mistake that other people should make.
Nobody knew you existed.
If we had known, we would have come for you.
And she said, but people saw me.
And I said, all I can say is they didn't know.
She goes, what about the people in the church, where I was going to the church, where the youth leader was trafficking me?
People saw me every day.
Why didn't they do something?
They didn't know, or they didn't see the signs, or they didn't want to get involved, and they passed by her every day.
That cannot be us.
That cannot be us.
I mean, the implication here is actually pretty horrifying, that, like, there is this unimaginable horror of children being tortured, their childhood essentially robbed for the sake of the most evil and sick and depraved people in the world, and they're all around us, and I could intervene, I could stop it, I could recognize the signs and save a children from these, you know, mind-bending terrors, but I just don't, for some reason.
I don't know.
It's like, you can sort of see the way this acts as an impetus to action.
It gets to the point where if you don't act, you're almost complicit in the most horrible crimes.
Now, Tina runs this organization, ARC, with her husband, Basil Boz, which is a great name.
He should have been a clown or something.
Basil Boz.
Yep.
But he claimed that there were only five trustworthy anti-trafficking NGOs that they worked with.
Very simple.
If we do not, then who will?
Because I'm telling you something, nobody else is doing it.
Out of all the NGOs around America that have all of a sudden popped up because trafficking and anti-trafficking is fashionable now, and they have great marketing teams, and they take great grants, and they pay great salaries, and they make a lot of money.
they do that. Nothing. We know because we go behind the veil. I'll give you an
example. Out of literally a thousand NGOs in America, we only work with five. That's
it, five. Because they are accountable and they do what they say they're gonna do.
Wow, so you're just going to discredit people doing something instead of
throwing conferences for money in Florida. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you know, here's the weird thing.
I kept waiting for him to state which five, which are the only five credible NGOs, but he never stated it.
It was very strange.
I don't know.
I feel like if I thought that I don't, you know, obviously NGOs can be shitty.
I'm not endorsing anyone, but he's stating that there are only five good ones.
Okay.
What are they?
He just never said.
Basil Boss also said that mere awareness isn't enough to solve the issue of sex trafficking, and I do agree with that, but I'm a little concerned about what his solution is instead.
Basil Boss.
Basil Boss.
Beelzebub.
Beelzebub.
And most of you realize that Awareness, while somewhat effective, is not bringing children home.
How many of you remember when we used to put the picture of missing kids on milk cartons?
Do you remember that?
So you would look at the milk carton in the picture and you would think you did something about it by looking at it.
You felt good about that by looking at it.
But at the end of the day, what happened in that milk carton?
It went in the trash.
The fact is a child does not come home until there are boots on the ground in a community that physically go out and go up against the evil and bring that child home.
At least looking at the back of a picture of a milk carton, you know, only cost you about two bucks or so.
These folks paid $650 to go and do nothing.
What about the boots on the ground in Afghanistan that America sent to collaborate with people who had child slaves?
That is an actual reality.
Your boots on the ground.
Fuck you.
He's heating up!
Right.
He then offered a handful of action steps that he says an individual could do instead, such as running operations if the police aren't interested in doing it.
A community policing program between yourselves and your law enforcement partners.
And if they don't have the bandwidth to do so, then be prepared to run operations on your own legally.
Yeah, we all know how well community policing apparatuses go.
Well, I mean, but he's basically saying like be your own anti-sex trafficking jump team or organize one for yourself.
I don't know.
This is going to end poorly.
Also, this is completely ignoring cries for help from real trafficking organizations saying stuff like QAnon and people who are engaging in exactly this are actually flooding the lines with false information.
They're getting in the way of real trafficking investigations.
No mention of that though.
No.
You know, something else I thought was interesting that wasn't mentioned, it's like something that an individual with a lot of money and time on their hands could conceivably do to help prevent sex trafficking is become a foster parent, run a foster home.
And what that does is that it provides a safe place for a child who's in a very tough situation.
And if the child is otherwise on the street, feels like they have nowhere to go, they are highly at risk at being trafficked or abused in some way.
But that's not like, you know, scoping out sex trafficking houses and like, you know, running ops.
That's not quite as cool.
Late in the program, Lara Logan stated that some Hollywood films, and she didn't specify which ones, are made for the purpose of training children to be sex slaves.
A lot of people don't realize that these books and these films are not just for someone's sexual gratification.
They have another purpose.
They are training manuals for our children.
Those videos and movies that come out of Hollywood, the normalization of sex toys and different sexual fetishes and sadistic... Why are they teaching six-year-olds about sadistic sexual techniques?
Because they're training them for their jobs.
And that is not something I made up.
That's a very real thing.
The kid that gets to lie on their back and be raped to death is lucky.
Because these other kids have to work.
What?
First of all, the fuck is wrong with you?
Parents aren't gonna take their kids to see Taken.
No, they're talking about like Monsters Inc.
I mean, these people are fucking out of their minds.
There's just no way around it.
It's pretty psychotic.
I mean, what possesses a former, you know, high level journalist to get in front of hundreds of people and say, it would be fortunate for a child to be raped to death compared to what other things they might suffer in these, uh, in these sex trafficking horrors.
It just is like, it really is.
They're all, they're all getting around.
They're trying to raise their adrenaline levels and trying to shock each other.
Cause that's, that's the only thing I think makes them feel alive.
Damn.
Yeah.
Near the end of the two-hour event, General Flynn presented a signed baseball bat to a woman named Jerry Perna.
And she was presented with this bat because her nephew, Matthew Perna, was a January 6th defendant who committed suicide while awaiting sentencing.
Obviously, very tragic, but I wasn't completely clear on what this had to do with the topic of the event, January 6th.
Or a baseball bat.
How the fuck?
Oh my god.
To fend off your next attacker.
I guess.
So Jerry Perna, after accepting the bat, lamented that Matthew wasn't alive to see all the supposed facts about trafficking coming to light.
He was passionate about many, many things.
He educated me on child trafficking, the evils of Hollywood, our government, everything, many years ago.
He was decades ahead of his time.
And now that he's gone and so many of these things have come to light, so many of his friends and my family often have conversations.
Remember when Matt said that?
Remember when Matt told us about this?
And I think the hardest thing for me is it's breaking my heart that truth is coming out.
But it didn't come out while he was still with us.
Oh no.
Yeah.
Oh no.
I feel this episode has really taken something from me.
Yeah, it's pretty horrifying.
I mean, I wish Matthew didn't feel so despairing that he felt he needed to take his own life, you know?
But, yeah, too bad.
Finally, General Flynn ended with a call to action.
It requires a lot of sacrifice.
It requires getting up a little bit earlier.
It requires You know, doing a little bit more.
It requires a Saturday and a Sunday, and going to work, right?
To do something else.
It requires effort.
It requires sacrifice.
It requires discipline.
It requires a perseverance.
So all these things that we're involved in, and the way out of this thing, the way out of this mess that we are in, is for us to stand up, step up, begin to speak up, and begin to say what it is that's on our mind.
I mean, it is about we the people.
It is about who we are.
This is what a constitutional republic is about, is getting involved as citizens.
You decide on this.
All this stuff that we're presenting, and for those that will be attending this, you know, you decide.
How do you want to get involved?
That was really, I think, the point of the conference, and that was the big takeaway, is that there are unimaginable horrors happening all the time, all around you, constantly, and you don't do anything about it, either because you don't see it, even though it is, in fact, happening, or because you're too timid.
And now this is your invitation to see what's really going on and to be brave and to take action.
And that is concerning for me just a little bit, because this whole story, this whole event, it reminded me of the story of Louis Arthur.
And this was a guy from Arizona who back in 2018, he caused basically an international panic when he claimed that he found evidence of sex trafficking in the desert.
He did not.
But here's how that story was reported by the publication High Country News.
Arthur had stumbled across the camp while canvassing the area for homeless vets.
He posted an outraged rant on Facebook and started getting comments.
A lot of them.
When he posted videos arguing that there were probably bodies buried at the camp and that it was part of a network of Arizona sex trafficking sites, he topped 680,000 views in days.
There was just one problem with Arthur's story.
It wasn't true.
Tucson police and sheriff's deputies both investigated the site and found nothing more than a former homeless camp.
No evidence of sex trafficking.
Arthur then claimed he and two friends had found proof—a child's skull.
Officers sent the skull to Pima County Medical Examiner, who concluded that it had belonged to an adult and had been found miles away from the homeless camp.
The story kept gaining life.
From as far away as Australia, believers traveled to the Tucson desert to deliver vigilante justice to the sex traffickers.
Their stories became more elaborate.
The skull became a partial corpse.
One person told me it was so fresh when it was found they saw it dripping.
The camp became evidence of a massive pedophile ring implicating Cemex, the Mexican cement company that owns the property.
Some of Arthur's followers found more bones and suggested they came from people who had died terrible deaths.
But the medical examiner analyzed them too and concluded they were animal remains.
At least one was from a deer.
I remember covering this years ago.
Yeah.
But, you know, I was thinking because here's the thing about Louis Arthur is that he kept thinking he found evidence of a child sex ring and then getting other people to believe it because he assumed that evidence of it was everywhere.
It had to be there because he was pilled and he was just convinced that if he if he all he had to do was look and look in the right way and he would just find evidence constantly.
And it just wasn't true.
But the thing about, you know, Louis Arthur, he didn't have a General Flynn telling him, no, this is absolutely real.
Get involved.
Do it.
You're doing a great job, but all those people in Arizona do.
And if they, you know, they're, I assume some of those people in those rooms, they're going to participate in the six day event when they learn how to do, you know, the stuff like counter surveillance and like, you know, casing a house for sex trafficking and like all of these things that makes them feel like operators.
So, I mean, I feel pretty confident.
That probably sometime next year, probably in Florida, we're going to have a lot more incidents of people being falsely accused of sex trafficking, of more panics, of more citizens doing exactly this kind of thing.
Yeah, I don't doubt it.
I mean, they are stoking the flames of essentially a fever, just a mental fever that is taking over a portion of this population.
Convinced that they're surrounded by demonic spirits attempting to, you know, coerce and capture their children.
It's not good.
No, of course.
Yeah, like I said, it was hurt innocent people and further, you know, make it harder to combat real sex trafficking.
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Listener, until next week, may the Deep Dish bless you and f*** everybody at that conference.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Bless you and keep you.
And maybe not keep the people at the conference, but not f*** them.
F*** them.
No.
It's not a conspiracy, it's a fact.
And now, today's Auto-Q.
I mean, you may be thinking you're protecting them in one way, but you're not protecting them in another way.
So, let me say it this way.
If you're not in the life of your children and your grandchildren, or your great-grandchildren, whatever, and something happens to them, you only have yourself to blame.
You have to take accountability.
It's your fault, I'm gonna tell you.
You can sit here and blame it on the predator all day long.
But it's like saying, hey, I walked in that yard and that dog bit me.
Well, who walked into the yard?
You walked into the yard.
So don't look for results that you didn't work for.
And don't blame society when your kids get taken because you didn't monitor them in school, like Laura's talking about, or you didn't stand up for what was right.
It will be your fault.
It will be your fault.
And you'll have to live with it the rest of your lives.
