Episode 236: Melted Boy Summer Begins feat. Allie Mezei
It’s official, summer has begun. Naturally, things are beginning to melt at a rapid rate, including the news that is fed to us via our precious black mirrors. In an effort to help the QAA Snowman keep his eyes from falling out of his head, we’ve unleashed our most trusted aggregator Travis View to track conspiracy theories spawning out of Trump’s indictment as well as the emergence of a powerful Kennedy offspring. Meanwhile, Jake unpacks online conspiracy theories related to the missing Ocean Gate submarine, and the reddit communities who are sick and tired of hearing about them. Joining us is resident QAA legal analyst Allie Mezei, to help the guys figure out just how many Pinocchios Donald Trump will be spending in jail.
Producer’s note: This episode was recorded before the breaking news about the fate of the submarine and its passengers. We were sorry to discover the tragic conclusion and offer our condolences to the families of all those affected.
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Welcome, listener, to Chapter 236 of the QAnon Anonymous podcast, the Melted Boy Summer Begins episode.
As always, we are your hosts, Jake Rakitansky, Allie Mezzi, and Travis View.
So we're recording this on the summer solstice, the day of the summer solstice, and I titled this Melted Boy Summer Begins because, based entirely on vibes, basically, because I'm It just feels like there's a lot of factors and events that are converging in a way that is going to make the next few months a sweaty, waking hallucination.
So, like, Trump is starting to get nailed by the criminal justice system in a way that, you know, really, I never really thought was gonna happen.
In addition to that, the high-profile, very seriously-pilled movie, Sound of Freedom, is gonna be released in a couple weeks, and this comes after years of distribution delays, so I feel it's just fate timely.
It has to happen right now.
Well, this summer.
Anti-vaccine activist Robert Kennedy Jr.
is ramping up his presidential campaign in a bid to challenge President Biden's re-election.
And quite recently, the world of social media was enthralled by the story of five people who climbed inside a tiny submarine that was supposed to allow them to dive deep into the Atlantic Ocean and view the wreckage of the Titanic, but they have since gone missing during the mission and by now have certainly joined the cold, dark, watery fate of the Titanic's own passengers.
And that, of course, spawned a lot of morbid jokes and Twitter conspiracy theories.
But it's just been very, very strange to see unfold.
So to help our beloved listeners sort of share in my persistent sense of dread, we're going to talk about all of that, starting, of course, with the Trump indictment, because he did it again, folks.
The master.
The master.
He's done it once again.
I mean, he already has a world record two impeachments as president.
And then he scored a double-double by being criminally charged a second time as ex-president.
That means he beat his own record for most indictments as an ex-president.
Just the best there ever was.
Wow.
He's like, I'll get the most indictments out of anybody.
I heard Abraham Lincoln only had one indictment.
But I'm going to go for two, folks.
We're going to have, we're going to stack them.
We're going to be getting indicted so many times you won't even be able to follow it.
It's going to be great, for me especially, that I'm doing it goodly.
Now this is, this is definitely, we haven't had a real vibey episode like this in a while, so I'm looking forward.
This is also, of course, why we, why we invited Ali on to, you know, so we can all bask in the vibes.
Just letting it wash over us.
Yeah, very excited to have our resident legal expert to sort of like help us kind of like make sense of this, because the second indictment comes courtesy of special counsel Jack Smith, really the hottest, newest special counsel on the scene.
I mean, he's young, he's Gen X-er, not all these old boomer special counsels.
He knows what he's doing.
He's currently looking into Trump's attempts to overturn the election and Trump's stubborn insistence on keeping classified materials at his Mar-a-Lago residence in Florida.
Jack Smith's first indictment is a banger.
It includes felony violations of national security laws.
It also mentions a conspiracy to obstruct justice.
So the 37-count indictment includes allegations that he stored classified documents in a bathroom and shower at his Florida club, he showed documents to people without security clearances, and he at times tried to conceal material from his own lawyers and investigators.
I mean, Ali and you read this.
I mean, I really liked the full color photos.
I mean, I don't know how many indictments really have really nice, clear photos like this.
But yeah, there was one of stacks of boxes that were allegedly of classified documents.
And one of the storage places is the stage of a ballroom that has like these white walls and gold molding.
It's the white and gold ballroom.
Yes, of course.
This looks like the basement of a local church where you would practice your Battle of the Bands set, you know?
The bathroom, though, I think is the absolute best one, where there's just heaps of boxes in his shower or something like that.
And after looking at all those pictures, I have no doubt in my mind that if Trump owned smaller properties, he would be a hoarder.
This is, this is, you know, only a rich person can do something like this where, you know, you're at the pool or whatever and you're like, oh, like, I have to go to the bathroom or whatever, where should I, where's the best place to, and somebody's like, oh, you can go into the, there's a, there's a bathroom in the, in the guest house over there.
And you're like, oh, sweet, cool.
And you go and you're like, oh man, there's just fucking tons of boxes and shit in here.
It's like, this is only something that a rich person does.
Yeah, I don't get it.
Like, even his method of, like, illegally storing documents is somehow showy and ostentatious.
He doesn't have, like, a shed, a storage closet, somewhere tucked away.
He's like, no, no.
From reading the indictments, though, it seems like he was just, like, rapidly shuffling the box from room to room to room to hide them from people.
And then the people that he was, like, having do it, or the person he was having doing it, was his former Diet Coke valet at the White House.
Oh my god.
Because in addition to Trump being indicted, the person that he is, one of the people that he is alleged to have conspired with is a man named Waltie Nauta, who I guess was on the cooking staff at the White House.
And then after he was done in the Navy, because the Navy runs the cooking staff at the White House, he joined Trump's pack.
And I guess his job in the White House was to bring Trump Diet Coke on a literal silver platter.
And I guess he just continues doing that and also moving boxes.
Every billionaire has got a Diet Coke guy, you know?
And when it came to moving these documents around, they were like, oh, well, who are we going to get to do this?
Oh, like, here's 10 qualified people.
And he's like, no, no, no, I got a Diet Coke guy.
He's carried the most precious cargo.
That's crazy.
I didn't know that.
I think my favorite part of the indictment was it sort of describes this really absurd scene where Trump is talking about how during the last days of his presidency, General Mark Milley was worried that Trump would like launch an attack against Iran in order to like create some sort of distraction, sort of like Reichstag fire moment.
So Mark Milley's actions were previously covered by The New Yorker, so this isn't new information, but Trump was apparently interviewed for a book.
And this interview was attended by a writer, a publisher, and two Trump staffers.
And during that interview, Trump pulled out classified documents which detailed war
plans, which he seemed to believe absolved him of the accusation that he was planning to
launch an attack in the last days of his presidency. And while showing these classified
documents, he acknowledges that he can't declassify them anymore since he's no longer
president. So this conversation was recorded and so it led to this amazing dialogue between Trump and
the staffer, which is published in the indictment. I just found, isn't that amazing? This
totally wins my case, you know.
Uh-huh.
Except it's, like, highly confidential.
Uh, yeah.
Secret.
This is secret information.
Look, look at this.
You attack and, by the way, isn't that incredible?
Yeah.
And I was just thinking, we were talking about it, and you know, he said he wanted to attack Iran.
And what?
Well, you did.
This was done by the military and given to me.
I think we could probably, right?
I don't know.
We'll have to see.
Yeah, we'll have to try to... Declassify it.
Yeah, figure out a way to... See, as president, I could have declassified it.
Yeah!
But now I can't, you know, because it's still a secret.
Yeah, and now we have a problem.
Isn't that interesting?
There just seems to be trepidation in whoever this is talking.
It's very funny because it wasn't interesting before we had the problem, but now we've got the problem and it's very interesting.
So it's just funny.
It's like, I could have declassified, but I can't anymore.
Now I have the secret information.
Now it's a crime.
And now I'm making you an accomplice.
Isn't that funny?
Isn't that funny?
Making you an accomplice right now to this crime I am knowingly committing?
Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. President.
Thank you, sir.
I feel so honored, sir.
Well, he probably wasn't going to commit a crime because before he was just drinking my Diet Cokes, but now, but now I think he's probably going to commit a crime.
He'll probably do it for me and maybe get me a Coke even.
All right.
So, I mean, Ali, you know, one of the things that always kind of confuses me a little bit about law and, you know, sort of like prosecuting criminal cases is this idea of like intent.
Like, whether or not they committed the crime, like, knowing or they did something knowing that it was illegal.
And I sometimes read that sometimes that's tricky with Trump because he's so talented at believing his own bullshit.
But I mean, I guess the point of this this very absurd kind of dialogue is the show is like, no, he clearly knew what he was doing was against the law, right?
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
And also, in the indictment, and I could just feel the joy of whatever DOJ guy typed this up as he had it.
They had all these quotes from Trump's campaign run about how, you know, our men and women in uniform, they sacrifice their lives to get us classified information, and we need a president that will take care of that, and no one can be above the law in handling classified information.
Yeah, he ran on it.
or three times in the indictment it breaks just to have these sections that
are just extensive Trump quotes about the handling of classified information
and it's just trying to like hammer home that this is something he knew about and
he just didn't care. He ran on it. I mean literally. Yeah.
I mean yeah I mean it's like think about of course it seems like necessary because
Trump is so fucking Like he like he doesn't like email.
He like rips up documents compulsively.
He always basically uses like other people as kind of like a cat's paw to handle dirty business for him so he doesn't get his hands dirty.
So he's like he's he's able to like, you know, do all this like shady shit because he is like, you know, he's very paranoid and cautious.
He's like a TV show mobster.
Yeah.
But he didn't even get caught, you know, it would be one thing if, you know, it was like a Tom Clancy novel where, like, you know, there was record of him, you know, selling the secrets to a foreign government or, you know, using it to make some kind of real estate deal, you know, while exposing, you know, government secrets.
But, like, instead it's just him shuffling boxes from one room to another.
Like, he wasn't even doing anything cool with it.
No, it's entirely a pissing contest with the National Archives and Records Administration and the DOJ.
It's all about, like, no, fuck you, you can't tell me what to do.
Yeah.
And just writing that just as far as he can go.
Amazing stuff.
So you may not be surprised that QAnon followers and influencers are claiming that this indictment is also part of the plan, the big QAnon plan.
A lot of QAnon followers, in order to make sense of these events, they reference a 2019 QDROP, which essentially states that the Great Awakening will begin after the first arrest in what was supposed to be the massive storm of many arrests of powerful elites.
And this is what that QDROP says.
First indictment.
Unseal will trigger mass pop awakening.
First arrest will verify action and confirm future direction.
So the first arrest, the first indictment, of course, like back in the day, the bank was that the first arrest and the first indictment was like maybe Hillary, you know, maybe Obama, someone huge that'll just like open people's eyes and make people realize that QAnon is right the whole time.
But nowadays, they actually, it's like, no, actually, maybe, maybe that was wrong.
Maybe it's actually, it's Trump's indictment and Trump's arrest that that will wake everyone up somehow.
So therefore, Trump being arrested is literally part of the plan.
This is how the QAnon media company Badlands Media spun the latest indictment.
Is Trump the first indictment?
Some say no.
Others say yes.
Regardless, the indictment of Trump will, I argue, expose false narratives that have festered within the minds of the deceived populace for years, specifically regarding Trump's alleged guilt and impropriety.
The globalists have used Trump's presumed guilt to deceive millions, who are made to hate Trump and therefore made to seek his arrest and indictment.
The tension and build-up to his arrest and indictment kept them on the hook.
Now that the indictment is finally here, the tension will be released.
As the specific details and information is unveiled, this is where the globalists risk dispelling their own lie if the other side manages to unveil information that invalidates the false belief.
This is precisely what Trump is doing, and will do, I argue.
If any of that dispelling information penetrates the protective layers wrapped around the deceived population, they will realize they have been lied to, and as such, they will become loud voices in the narrative war.
I'm not really following the thread here, but it continues.
I suspect that what we are about to witness will lead to widespread defection from false narratives related to Trump
This will then lead to a shifting of roles where Trump moves from bad guy to good guy and the globalists do the
same Since the media will likely lose all clout from the exposition
of their false narratives The globalists using the media won't have any way to put
the toothpaste back in the tube What a metaphor. Yeah. Yeah
I mean, you kind of, like, tell, feel the strain of the cognitive distance in some of this writing.
Like, for example, it says, like, well, what's going to happen is that Trump is going to move from bad guy to good guy, and the globalists will do the same.
So they will also move from bad guy to good guy?
That doesn't make any fucking sense.
Oh, then you mean they'll do the inverse, you know?
It's like, uh, so, I mean... You know that these guys have to be just tired of writing this.
Like, they sit down at their computer and just go, This like big sigh of I gotta do it again.
There's nothing that's being said.
It's just like everything you see is like the beginning of the good thing happening and bad to good.
They're not even coming up with like plots.
It's just sort of a general theme.
And, like, also, you know, if you're following the sort of national conversation around this, like, there won't be a tension release.
This is never going to end.
Even if Trump, you know, serves time in jail, there will spring up, you know, three or four podcasts devoted to tracking his every, you know, tracking his every move and following his appeals and all.
I mean, there's no this is it's purely sort of wish casting, I think, which is, I mean, really all you have at this point, all you did have.
I mean, yeah, I mean, honestly, I mean, like what we learned from, you know, research and psychology is that people can literally keep doing this for the rest of their lives.
But it is going to be interesting to watch the behavior of the true believers as Trump's legal problems keep getting worse.
And it's just going to be harder and harder and harder to reconcile the insistence that we're winning, actually, with the, you know, the material reality.
Now, speaking of criminal activity, I should also mention that Hunter Biden also got busted.
Not a felony, he actually pled guilty to two misdemeanor tax charges and he accepted terms that allowed him to avoid prosecution on a separate gun charge.
And the deal is contingent on Biden remaining drug-free for about two years and never again owning a firearm.
So, let's see if he can manage that one.
Wow.
That's his Second Amendment rights getting trampled by big government.
Yeah.
For what?
For what?
A couple of tax evasions?
Come on.
Yeah.
It was over a million in the tax evasion.
So I mean, it's obviously it's a it's a federal crime, but it's a far cry from what Republicans were hoping for, which is that Hunter Biden would get like nailed for shady business dealings that somehow also involved President Biden.
There is also some like, you know, expectation that maybe there would be a discovery that Hunter Biden was involved in Hunter was a frequent topic of Q-drops.
Back in 2020, there was a Q-drop that linked to a report that said that the U.S.
employ the services of sex workers, but no one's been able to substantiate the claim
that any of the women that Hunter was involved with were underage.
So Hunter was a frequent topic of Q-drops. Back in 2020, there was a Q-drop that linked
to a report that said that the U.S. Treasury gave the Senate banking records related to
Hunter Biden as part of an investigation, and under that link, Q assured followers this.
[Hunter Biden
Subpoena of all H. Biden's financial records.
Death Blow.
2020 also plays on the same theme, implying that an exposure of Hunter Biden was imminent
and that his downfall would somehow lead to the downfall of all the evil elites.
Subpoena of all H. Biden's financial records.
Death blow.
Pandora's political elite box.
Cue.
Well, I mean, apparently they did subpoena his financial records and what they found
is he was late on his taxes.
I mean.
Yeah.
I think more people should get busted for tax fraud, personally.
Yeah.
I mean, you know what?
Accountability did come because, look, I mean, you got a gun charge, a couple of tax evasions.
They probably, you know, you could probably sort of shove that under the rug, you know, if you didn't really want people to know about it.
But no, they charged him.
They brought him in.
He took the plea deal.
Smart.
Yeah, I mean, that's it.
I mean, yeah, I don't really give a shit what happens to Hunter Biden.
He sounds like, you know, it sounds like a real badly addicted fail son.
Now, I do think it's funny, like, how much, like, Q lowered expectations during the final QDROX, because QAnon, it started, like, in 2017, 2018, it was like, Hillary Clinton and Obama will be found guilty of treason and child abuse and trafficking, and they'll be executed at Gitmo.
And then, of course, years went on, this didn't happen, and then in 2020, Q settled on, like, a more modest claim, which is that the president's son is going to get busted for corrupt business dealings.
Not quite as spectacular, but much more plausible.
But Q and the Followers didn't even get that, you know?
They just lower the expectations year after year after year, and you still get bullshit.
It's just funny.
Yeah, but, well, I guess it's something, you know.
And, of course, just the fact that there is a public story and that there's a public charge, you know, of course there's gonna be conspiracies, like, oh, well, these charges are just, these are the surface-level charges, and, like, what's happening, it's because they're making a bigger case behind the scenes, and this is just the first shoe of many to drop.
I mean, you can just go on forever with this stuff.
Now moving on to our next story, like one of our most popular episodes of all time is Enter the Kvortex about Jim Caviezel, a longtime actor, and how absolutely out of his mind he is on sets.
And he's back in the news because he kicked off his media tour to promote his upcoming film, Sound of Freedom.
Move over, Barbie.
Move over, Oppenheimer.
There's a hot film this summer.
Yeah, in this movie, Caviezel, he plays former CIA and Homeland Security official Tim Ballard.
This is a real person who also leads the non-profit organization Operation Underground Railroad.
And Ballard gained some fame after supposedly being involved in rescuing children from child trafficking.
Now, in reality, investigations from Vice News revealed that Ballard's organization embellished their role in the rescue of a trafficked woman, didn't validate whether the people they intended to rescue were in fact actual trafficking victims and conflated consensual adult
sex work with sex trafficking.
The organization's tactics have also earned them condemnation from established human trafficking
experts.
Isn't that the organization that used money from donations to pay a psychic to tell them
where a child was?
Yeah, that's that's that's right.
Whenever they did like find children, for example, like they didn't have any like plans for aftercare.
Like they were just a we're gonna drop in and fucking, you know, grab traumatized children.
And what are you gonna do with them after this?
Oh, we don't have plans for that.
We're like an operator.
It was like it was like a really horrifying kind of system according to the descriptions of it.
Well, and I think, I mean, that's probably the better movie, right?
Is, you know, it's like, a group of mercenaries hire a clairvoyant medium to go searching and track down a lost child.
Like, that's probably, I mean, who knows?
Maybe that's what Sound of Freedom will eventually be.
That movie comes out Independence Day, July 4th, so haven't seen it yet.
So I'm hoping, of course, they'll portray Ballard as played by Caviezel, like shooting pedophiles in the face and rescuing children from having their adrenalized blood harvested.
He better be crawling the Dumbs.
I'm curious to see whether it'll have that kind of stuff in it, like whether it'll have references to Dumbs or there will be.
I mean, are we going to see the adrenochrome farms?
I think that's a big question on everybody's mind going into this movie.
Is the psychic going to be a part of it?
And will we see the adrenochrome farms?
Because if we do, I mean, if there's an adrenochrome scene, that will be the first sort of, I guess, big budget, explicitly QAnon scene in a major motion picture.
Mm-hmm.
Well, won't have to wait too long to find out.
To promote the film, Caviezel appeared on Steve Bannon's podcast, War Room.
So, Bannon, he pitched the movie hard.
He called on his listeners to sell out theaters, so he's really on board.
But the interview, it went off the rails very, very fast.
So, it was a 40-minute interview, and about four minutes in, Caviezel straight up tells Steve Bannon that the demand for trafficked children is driven by What is driving the demand side of the equation?
You talked about it's trafficking for sex and it's organ harvesting.
Is there other elements?
Is it also for labor, for slave labor?
Adrenochrome.
The whole adrenochrome.
Empire.
This is a big deal.
It is listed under the NIH.
It is a chemical compound.
It's a molecular structure.
It's C9H9NO3.
It's an elite drug that they've used for many years.
It's 10 times more potent than heroin.
And it has some mystical qualities as far as making you look younger.
Oh my god, he like goes through all the length to prove how scientific it is, listing out the compounds and everything, and then he's like, and it contains these mystical qualities.
I know.
He does what they always do.
Adrenochrome is a real substance that you can buy online for pretty cheap, but it doesn't get you high.
It doesn't have any special youth properties.
That's the QAnon bullshit.
He's like, you see this compound?
It's listed on the periodic table of elements and the effects are magic.
Oh boy.
Alright, well, getting closer to my prediction, maybe that Adrena-Chrome does make an appearance in the film, or maybe they edited that part out and that's why he's selling it so hard on all the interviews.
They actually did, like, ten months of shooting of scenes that they've never used, just to convince him it was in it, so he would continue to impress for it.
Yeah, and then some, like, production assistant, like, you know, a couple months ago had to break it to him, they were like, I'm sorry Jim, none of the None of the adrenochrome scenes made it into the movie.
He's going to figure it out at the premiere.
And yeah, people are going to be like, you know, I was really, I was really excited to see this movie and you told me about all these wonderful scenes about adrenochrome, but I didn't see it.
And you know, the guy who plays like the adrenochrome dealer, this is like his first big role.
He's working with Jim Caviezel.
He goes to the premiere.
He's like, oh man, all my scenes have been cut.
Release the adrenocut.
Yeah, the adrenocut.
Well, the sources of the myth that adrenochrome has some sort of psychoactive properties comes from the Hunter S. Thompson book, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas and the movie of the same name.
Now, Steve Bannon, he's a horrifying fascist, but he's not dumb.
And he seems to know that, you know, that adrenochrome, the mystical part of it is bullshit.
He knows where the real story came from.
Oh, well, that's basic confirmation!
with Kvizil and Kvizil kind of like waves that away and suggests that they
kind of like address the supposed origin of the adrenochrome myth in the movie.
Oh! Well, that's basic confirmation!
I mean I don't know if that's true because Kvizil, like I tell you,
Kvizil is out of his fucking mind. It's actually sometimes really hard to make
sense of what the fuck he's talking about.
In his defense, he was hit by lightning like four times.
That is true.
That is true.
We should give him that.
While Mel Gibson probably was like, nah, stay on that cross.
He's like, sir, I can't feel my feet, my finger.
I can't feel any of my extremities.
My body's locked up.
He's like, he's like, no, keep rolling.
Use it.
Use it.
How do you think Jesus felt?
All right, that was a segment from Behind the Scenes on The Passion of the Christ.
This is that scene in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas that nobody could figure out.
No, I saw that, and I tell you, that had a big laugh.
About 9% of the audience laughed, and I'll tell you- An annoying laugh?
Oh, absolutely, they knew what was going on.
An insider annoying laugh?
Absolutely, what it was.
And so we returned that on Sound of Freedom.
Okay.
What?
Hunter S. Thompson, Deep State App.
Wait, so he's saying that when he went to see Fear and Loathing, like, you know, however many years ago it came out, I think it came out in the 90s, that there was, you know, 9% of the people in that audience that had a knowing laugh because they knew about Adrenochrome?
And because of this, he brought it back for...
Travis, help me understand.
Who's bringing what where?
I can't, man.
I'm playing it in context.
They move on from here, but I'm afraid that it's very difficult to make sense of what the fuck he's talking about.
So, during the interview, Bannon seems to be kind of aware that what Caviezel is saying might sound weird to maybe Normie, MAGA, Republicans, so he tries to get Caviezel to elaborate on what he's talking about.
Hang on.
For those in this audience that know the details, but we'll share this with, because we want to share this with family and friends and take people to the theater.
Go back to the stimulant in the blood, adrenochrome, and back it up with, give me some facts so people don't say we're in conspiracy theory land.
Here's the point.
I don't believe that there's a 100 Biden laptop.
You know how I know that?
Because for two years the media said there was no such thing.
So there's none.
But then there is now.
And then for seven years we learned that Trump's a Russian spy.
For seven years.
Well, you know he's a Russian spy.
But then he's not.
Well, that was about 80% of everything we heard from the media for the last seven years.
And suddenly I bring this up and you say, well, this is conspiracy theory.
So we're back to this whole conspiracy theory thing with the media that's putting on.
Well, I mean, I had my career completely ransacked.
I had no idea what I was stepping on.
Oh, this is so unfortunate.
I mean, it's tough.
I mean, like, Bannon, he has a lot of experience, like, you know, wrangling useful idiots.
I mean, he does a pretty good job sort of keeping even, like, Mike Lindell on track.
So he does, like, you know, kind of, like, wrangle him okay.
But I gotta say, I think Caviezel is getting worse.
Like, he's a professional actor.
He's been working for decades.
But in this interview, he's, like, red-faced, he acts confused, and sometimes he has difficulty, like, even, like, finishing his sentences and sometimes his sentences aren't
even like, you know, coherent.
He's stumbling over his words.
I mean, it's bad.
And we're going to see a lot more of him this summer because he's going to be promoting
this fucking movie.
Yeah, I mean, what's so weird about this is that like, Jim Caviezel is like, you know,
or at least when I was, you know, was aware of his work, you know, was a triple A celebrity.
And what he sounds like in this interview is that he's just, like, a regular, like, normie guy Q-pilled.
Like, the media lied about this, the media lied about this, and because the media's lying about those things, then they're certainly lying about this thing.
They're certainly just around the corner of being exposed.
Yeah, I mean, there's no reason why a successful, famous, talented actor couldn't get Q-pilled, but it's just sad to see how redundant this explanation is.
We've been seeing people say these kind of things for years, just on message boards, or in YouTube videos, or Rumble, or whatever.
Now the same shit is just coming out of the mouth of this guy.
Well, speaking of Bannon, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
is ramping up his presidential campaign as a Democrat.
And Bannon is relevant to this story because CBS News reporter Robert Costa reported that Bannon encouraged RFK Jr.
to run for months.
And according to this report, people familiar with the matter said that Bannon hoped RFK Jr.
could serve as both a useful chaos agent in the election while also helpfully stoking, quote, anti-vaccine sentiment around the country.
That basically means that, you know, despite the fact that, you know, RFK Jr.
is very unlikely to win, he will serve a political goal, even if he doesn't.
It was interesting.
It's like, according to polls, he does actually have some support among likely Democratic primary voters, somewhere in the neighborhood of 14 to 15 percent, according to FiveThirtyEight.
So, you know, that's not nobody.
Have they run polls about what his appeal would be in the general among former Republican voters or likely Republican voters?
Because something that I'm wondering is if Bannon didn't accidentally unleash someone that's equally as likely to be a Republican spoiler.
But I think I saw something where Bannon was saying that maybe he could be a running mate for a Republican in the general, where I think Mm.
You know, that's a possibility, too.
about like, "Oh, we might have made a miscalculation."
Mm, you know, that's a possibility too.
Maybe it's like he runs up until his campaign is exhausted and then switches parties maybe?
Well, you know, there is a good—I mean, I can tell you anecdotally at least that there's
a good amount of people, one or two maybe, who I follow on Instagram, who are generally
They are, you know, anti-Trump, sort of anti-right-wing, but who are also staunchly anti-vaccine.
So I would imagine that RFK has some kind of, you know, potential following, but nowhere near to be able to be a real contender, I think, on either side.
No, I just think he would pull from both candidates if he ran third party in the general.
Yeah, maybe, yeah.
I don't know, it's weird.
We got a Kennedy, he's up there, he's fucking around, he's saying weird shit.
You know, we thought all Kennedys, you know, were golden boys and, you know, that they would always come and rescue us at some point.
And this just feels, yeah, very unsatisfying, a return of a Kennedy.
Who's he related to, by the way?
How does he fit into the family?
He is, um, I believe he is Bobby's son.
And Bobby was JFK's...
He was JFK's younger brother who was running for president after JFK's assassination, and then he himself was assassinated by Sirhan Sirhan.
Right.
Okay.
Okay.
And this is his son?
Yes.
Well, that's tough.
I mean, that's tough.
You got your uncle and your dad both assassinated?
I don't know.
Maybe I'd be crazy too.
Both gunned down in extremely weird circumstances.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That sucks.
I mean, I would.
Yeah, I mean, I would probably be a conspiracist, too, in that situation.
But the thing is that his conspiracy theories aren't merely limited to political or historical matters.
He, for example, has blamed school shootings on drugs like Prozac.
In a discussion on Twitter, he told Elon Musk that prior to the introduction of Prozac, we had almost none of these events.
There is, of course, no evidence of a link between mass violence and antidepressants.
He's also claimed that COVID-19 was an engineered bioweapon.
He has pushed HIV-AIDS denialism, attributing AIDS not to the virus HIV, but to a, quote, gay lifestyle and recreational drugs.
And that one's really nasty.
I mean, people have literally died unnecessarily I don't know, I think too much ugly, not enough good to be effective on any sort of spectrum of left, right?
For much earlier in his career, he does have some bona fides as an environmental lawyer.
I know that he has some weird opinions about climate change currently, but he does have some history that he can point to that, you know, he helped fight against pollution in the Hudson River.
So, there are some things that, you know, he can tout behind him, but yeah, I'd say that there is a lot of ugly there.
One thing that he could do is proclaim that he's actually JFK Jr.
and that Robert Kennedy Jr.
never existed.
I mean, that might sway a couple people on a certain side, but I don't know.
Other than that, I don't know.
It's gonna be a tough race.
Recently, RFK Jr.
appeared on the Joe Rogan podcast.
This led to Peter Hotez, a vaccine expert and professor at Baylor College of Medicine, and one-time Rogan guest, to denounce RFK Jr.' 's claims as misinformation.
RFK Jr.
and Rogan then tried to goad Hotez into debating the topic on Rogan's podcast, but of course he refused because that's not productive.
And this caused someone to stalk Hotez outside of his home.
So, real weird bullshit stuff.
Recently, Brandis Androsny at NBC News published this fascinating profile of Robert Kennedy Jr.
I recommend you go check it out.
It includes descriptions of his paranoid worldview and his vision for what an RFK Jr.
administration might look like.
President Kennedy would order childhood vaccines, which have already gone through clinical trials and constant safety studies, to undergo bigger, double-blind controlled trials.
That sounds scientific, but those studies, health professionals say, would needlessly and unethically deny children vaccines, offering them placebo instead, in a quest to find out what we already know, that vaccines are safe and prevent myriad illnesses.
President Kennedy would gut the agencies that currently regulate, monitor, and recommend schedules for childhood vaccines, the Food and Drug Administration, the National Institutes of Health, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the expert advisory panels of doctors, scientists, and professors they rely on.
The agencies have become sock puppets for the industries they regulate, he says.
So he'll impose more stringent conflict of interest qualifications and replace the bad guys with good ones.
Kennedy won't tell me who he's got in mind, not until they're vetted, but he says he's got many names.
He's got a whole list of white hats just ready to come in.
President Kennedy would also order his Justice Department to investigate the editors and publishers of medical journals for lying to the public.
Okay, so a Persia scientist, that would be productive.
Now, wait a minute.
What happens if you have a study and you put out a paper and it's agreed upon, you know, there's a consensus, and then, you know, I don't know, a couple years later, you know, somebody comes along with new evidence or does new experiments and the science changes because that's how it fucking works.
Like, what are you gonna do with the guys who put out the first study?
Like, are they gonna be rounded up and, like, taken to jail or fined?
This is how we open more tenure-track jobs in He's got a plan.
Like any good conspiracy theory, Kennedy's underlying argument contains grains of truth.
The pharmaceutical industry does exert influence on science, misconduct from prestige-seeking researchers does sometimes occur, and doctors and drug companies do often make medical decisions based on profit.
Kennedy wraps these truths in the generic storyline of conspiracies.
Something bad is happening, but they don't want you to know about it so that they can reap profit and power.
He says they are all, in some way or another, on the payroll.
It's fixed.
whistleblowing doctors or scientists come forward to agree with him publicly.
He says they are all, in some way or another, on the payroll.
It's fixed.
It's rigged.
All right, a little bit redundant at the end, but...
Yeah, you know, I think that there are, like, you know, legitimate concerns about, like,
you know, Washington glass door stuff, about regulatory capture by industries.
But you know, that just kind of seems like when it's coming from someone who is an ideologue,
it just seems like talking about that sort of thing is a shield from just pushing an
agenda.
Like, I don't like that those guys are in there, so I can get my guys in there.
Yeah, you know, but he's not a, you know, I'm worried about industry, you know, capture or I'm worried about regulatory capture kind of guy.
He's like, I think getting inoculated against the mumps will give you autism, guy.
You know, it's a lot worse.
He just does couch things in terms that are appealing to a lot of the population, I'd say.
But, you know, it is, as Jake said, so ugly that it's got to camp out somewhere.
But the presidential run of R.F.K.
Jr.
has led to one good thing.
It led to Trump announcing the return of someone very special during an interview on Fox News.
And Biden, he's got somebody at 21 percent.
I just saw a number, 21 percent.
J.F.K.
Jr., who's a very nice person.
I know him very well.
Yes!
There it is.
Yes.
Straight up, straight up said that.
J.F.K.
Jr., nice person.
He knows him very well.
And he's polling well, apparently.
Honestly, I want to know what Vincent Fusca's 48 hours after Trump said this were like.
What was he doing?
He must have been up all night at the Trump International in D.C.
I bet he's been from hotel room to hotel room.
The biggest high anyone has been on.
Meeting three middle-aged ladies in a row at the same Chili's bar.
Yeah, ordering the fried ice cream, taking their money, making some calls, getting some hats printed, maybe some graphic tees.
He's getting the van back together.
Well, and Travis, I was joking when I said that RFK Jr.
He's like, I said it on the interview, I said it in the interview, and from now on, you're gonna be JFK Jr., okay?
You're changing who you- yeah, you're changing who you are, okay?
And you're gonna run with me, and potentially Michael Flynn, we could have two vice presidents.
I'll be the first to do it, it's never been done before.
It's gonna be a great time, but from now on, everything that you know as Robert is now gone.
You're only JFK Jr.
So yeah, all very dark, absurd stuff.
So that's why we're going to end this episode with a little bit lighter topic.
If this is a lighter topic, we've got a serious problem with this podcast and everybody should stop listening right now because this is, I mean, the story is horrifying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're a born pitchman, Jake.
So yeah, you've been spending some time looking into the doomed expedition to explore the wreckage of the Titanic and sort of the discourse around it.
So what have you seen online?
Well, yes, so my wife is a little bit of an armchair philosophobe, so she has been following this horrible story pretty closely.
And, you know, as a result, so have I. And, you know, anytime something weird like this happens, you know, my first instinct is like, oh God, what are the conspiracy theories, like, you know, gonna be?
And, you know, unsurprisingly, I have found a couple.
So, as I'm sure many of you are aware, the internet has been set ablaze with the horror movie version of The Ever Given.
On Sunday, June 18th, a submarine charter company called OceanGate, whose name is already, like, sounds like a scandal, lost contact with a civilian submersible in the North Atlantic Ocean.
Five people, including the company's CEO, who was piloting the craft, had set course towards the wreckage of the Titanic, which sits about 2.4 miles beneath the surface.
Participants paid $250,000 for a seat on the ill-fated journey.
Now, look, before I go any further, I want to say, I know that these people are rich and that, like, you know, the gravesite of over 1,500 people should of course not be a tourist attraction.
So, um, in law, that's called an attractive nuisance.
Hmm.
Wait, that's real attractive nuisance?
Yep.
Something that's dangerous that make people want to go see it.
Oh my god.
We're all just like cave people.
We're like, oh, I want to go stare at the thing, but not too close because I could die.
But look.
I want to say that I'm really hoping for a miracle here and that the ship is able to be recovered without any loss of life.
Because if you read any of the sort of potential scenarios of what could be going down inside that ship, they're all, you know, the stuff of true nightmares.
And look, what if it had been James Cameron down there?
You know, we'd all be pulling for him.
So anyways.
I mean, now these people are making Avatar 3, so it's not the same.
Regardless, the story is rife with drama, with everything from a whistleblower who had expressed grave concerns about the craft's safety, to sonar picking up strange knocking echoing out from the abyss from where the craft was believed to be.
There's also serious controversy surrounding the off-brand PlayStation controller used to pilot the submarine.
Now, the controller in question, displayed in past photographs and interviews with the company's CEO, Stockton Rush, was a Logitech F710.
It is unclear if this was the controller currently being used on the Titan Submersible.
The Logitech controller has mostly positive reviews on Amazon, but it is still pretty old, first releasing in September of 2010.
So you gotta wonder, why didn't you update the, you know, get a Razer, you know, something, something nice.
Now, the whole controller thing actually isn't as bizarre as you might think.
It's true that some U.S.
Navy submarines use Xbox controllers, but I imagine that the U.S.
military is probably going to spring for the Elite Series controller, which I still wouldn't advise as the build quality is fairly problematic in my experience.
Just an aside.
They actually use the GameCube controller.
Yeah, it's like, I mean, a GameCube could use one joystick.
Maybe that's better.
I mean, who knows?
Maybe that's better.
The hardware is probably better.
I honestly think they're overdoing it.
They should just use a Wiimote.
Yeah, and use your body.
You could use body motion to steer the sub.
It's getting really warm down in there as they're doing some Wii tennis to navigate it through the ruins.
Oh my god, well, we hope they're okay.
But of course, along with the internet's collective obsession with endangered ocean crafts, online conspiracy theorists have flocked to message boards pondering what's really going on beneath the waves.
On the subreddit rConspiracy, a post with over 130 upvotes offers one potential reason for the missing sub, and that post is as follows.
Alien conspiracy theory to explain the missing submarine.
I went down a rabbit hole after I read a comment claiming that the crew was actually there on an alien investigation mission instead of Titanic exploration.
So, I decided to do my own little digging and here is what I found.
Shahzada Dawood, a Pakistani-British millionaire, sits on the board of trustees of SETI Institute, which stands for Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence.
The British billionaire, Hamish Harding, is a well-known space explorer and pilot.
Conspiracy?
Coincidence?
What do you guys think?
I think this seems reasonable.
Well, it gets more interesting.
So, other users in that thread linked to a week-old 4chan post from a supposed government insider that seemed to add credence to this theory.
And that 4chan post reads, "I have intimate knowledge of what the US currently knows about UFOs minus the last two
years.
UFOs are primarily unmanned drones."
UFOs are built to spec each time they are deployed.
UFOs are created by a mobile construction facility that hides in the ocean.
Construction facility destroys anything that comes close to it and will disappear for days when approached aggressively.
U.S.
believes the facility has been active on Earth for at least 100 years or much longer.
Fire away on questions.
I'll answer what I can.
You won't be disappointed.
Anonymous.
So, couple interesting things here.
One, they claim that the UFOs are primarily unmanned drones, which is actually when we had Chelsea Manning on the show, and I asked her what she believed UFO crafts were.
Her answer was that they were unmanned drones.
So, I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe we're lining up a little bit.
I started to get a little bit pilled, so the first thing I wanted to look at, I was like, okay, is one of the ship's missing occupants really on the board of trustees at the SETI Institute?
And he's certainly listed on SETI's website in their board of trustees, so anyone's guess.
But does this mean that the submarine was destroyed by an underwater alien craft?
Probably not.
In fact, in an article from Business Insider, Dawood's family even describes him as a big fan of science fiction.
Shahzada Dawood, a 48-year-old British-Pakistani businessman, was also aboard the Titan with his son, Suleiman Dawood, 19.
In a statement shared with the BBC, their family said Shahzada Dawood was interested in exploring different natural habitats.
He serves as the vice-chair of Pakistan's NGRO Corp.
and lives in London with his son, wife, and other child, Alina.
Suleiman Dawood, quote, is a big fan of science fiction literature and learning new things, and a university student, his family said.
So, you know, something else that's interesting from the post.
The Titanic sunk in about 1912, and that was a little bit over a hundred years ago.
Wow, that is a round number.
It has one, two zeroes.
Very divisible by many other numbers.
And the anonymous 4chan poster goes on to say that this underwater... there's a kind There's a little bit of good lore in this post, honestly, that the underwater aircraft carrier that essentially makes the UFOs basically hangs out around the Bermuda Triangle, so that checks out.
A lot of weird stuff happening in the Bermuda Triangle, so I understand.
Another interesting piece from that is they said that each UFO is manufactured, like, you know, basically at the time, and so that's why they all look different, is because they're each built, like, as they need them for a specific purpose, and they believe that the, um, this person also claims that the aircraft carrier is, uh, driven by some sort of artificial intelligence, and that is how it is able to detect ships that are a threat to it, or just, uh, you know, passenger ships, commercial ships that, that don't pose a threat, which is why those don't get get sunk. So yeah, looking more and more like we have an Abyss
case on our hands.
I mean, we've got the Titanic, we've got James Cameron, who is interested in the
Titanic, who has visited it and made a movie about it. He also directed a movie,
The Abyss, about a deep-sea underwater crew that encounters aliens. So, I mean,
with those two things, I mean, I'm basically sold.
This is disclosure.
So during my research, another aspect of this whole whole debacle became
glaringly apparent, that the everyday users of the r/Titanic subreddit are
becoming sick and tired of faceless conspiracy theories flooding their once
peaceful forum.
But there already are a bunch of Titanic conspiracy theories, like the one that it was sank to start the Federal Reserve, and then the one that it was sank for insurance fraud.
Like, I feel like Titanic conspiracy theories are as old as the Titanic.
I'm sure that we could devote a whole premium at some point to conspiracy theories about the Titanic.
Maybe I'll take that on in the future.
Our hearts will go on.
So, one of the highest upvoted posts on rTitanic reads as follows.
Open bracket, meta, close bracket.
Could we get better moderation for this sub, please?
48 hours ago, this subreddit was full of good quality discussion from Titanic enthusiasts who at least attempted to know the basics, and more importantly, knew the importance of facts and had respect for both victims of maritime disasters and the Titanic community.
Now it's full of misinformed and uneducated takes from ignorant brigaders thinking they're all suddenly ship experts, or borderline AI-generated conspiracy drivel being used to shitpost.
In the past 24 hours, there have been twice as many garbage-tier posts as actual meaningful content.
This subreddit is meant to be an actual place for discussion.
And if you can't handle mature, nuanced conversations, please go back to Our World News.
Maz, is there any way to curb the rapidly declining quality of posts here?
It's really sad to see this sub implode.
Is that a play on words?
I hope not.
I hope that they were just... I hope they weren't making that joke about this topic.
I don't think they were.
They seem too angry to, like, make a kind of mean-spirited pun like that, so... Make a joke at the end there?
Just not a very self-aware person.
Yeah, this is all bullshit.
You know what really happened is that they went down and they made it and they actually went a little bit off course to do a little bit of extra exploring and then when they did that they saw some bomb fragments and on those fragments they saw imprinted property of J.P.
Morgan.
Proving the plot to destroy the Titanic in order to create the Federal Reserve.
And on the way up, they thought they're going to break the story of the century.
But before they could reach the surface, Alex Soros, in his first act to protect the lizard people Cabal, after taking the reins from his father George, launched torpedoes from his own mini-sub, sinking the Titan and ensuring that we never know the truth.
Yeah, and or they're in Atlantis.
Uh, Egon, Travis has gone.
Bye bye.
Yeah, maybe that's it.
Maybe they found the lost city of Atlantis and they're going to come back arms filled with gold that they don't need.
And then, you know, a whole new slew of conspiracy theories can kick off about where they went.
I mean, I swear to God, if they come back, it's going to be like time travel.
It's going to it'll get even weirder.
But that's what we're hoping for.
So we'll see what happens.
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