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Episode 133: There Is No QAnon feat Donie O'Sullivan

QAnon-field-reporting companion Donie O'Sullivan joins us to discuss the empty streets of Washington DC and our journey covering phantoms so far. ↓↓↓↓ SUBSCRIBE FOR $5 A MONTH SO YOU DON'T MISS THE SECOND WEEKLY EPISODE ↓↓↓↓ https://www.patreon.com/QAnonAnonymous Follow Donie O'Sullivan: http://twitter.com/donie QAA Merch / Join the Discord Community / Find the Lost Episodes / Etc: https://qanonanonymous.com Episode music by Pontus Berghe

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	What's up QAA listeners?
	The fun games have begun.
	I found a way to connect to the internet.
	I'm sorry boy.
	Welcome, listener, to Chapter 133 of the QAnon Anonymous podcast, the Covering Phantoms episode.
	As always, we are your hosts, Jake Brockitansky, Julian Fields, and Travis View.
	This week, we've got a very special guest.
	He's a reporter for CNN, and we've seen him time and again out in the field interviewing Trump supporters and QAnon believers.
	Donnie O'Sullivan, welcome to the show.
	What's the crack?
	What is the crack?
	Finally!
	Finally, I've been invited onto the show.
	It's true.
	We had you blacklisted.
	We lifted that blacklist after one too many good reports.
	Yeah, we had to terminate your shadow ban.
	We re-enabled your account in the system.
	Well, we're going to be chatting with you, Dhoni, about our mutual experiences covering QAnon, including times where we've been together at events and stuff like that.
	But before we touch on all of that, QAnon News!
	So, my big story today is a New Jersey man arrested after allegedly defacing America's Stonehenge with QAnon-related graffiti.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Before we go into this, America's Stonehenge?
	America's Stonehenge, yes.
	I didn't even know there was one.
	America is like 250 years old.
	Yeah, it's complicated.
	So let's unpack this a little bit.
	So America's Stonehenge is basically a tourist attraction in Salem, New Hampshire.
	The main feature of the site are a bunch of stone structures whose origins are unclear.
	Now the owners of the attraction claim that the structures are 4,000 years old.
	However, this view is So this is another fucking grift.
	You can't even deface a monument in America without exposing the monument for being a fraud.
	Yeah.
	It's fucking wrong.
	Yeah.
	So the view that this is some sort of pre-Columbian ancient structure is not supported by any credible archaeologist.
	God damn it.
	And so, apparently the structures, there are a couple stone walls and stuff, they date back to the 18th century at the oldest, and much of the site may actually have been constructed in the early 20th century.
	Okay.
	Have we checked if it's really a rock and not just some plastic?
	Yes, there are real rocks, so that is confirmed.
	Okay, you're sure that they're not fossilized giant lungs, right?
	Every like two years, Disney has to get rid of all the rocks on the Indiana Jones ride because they start looking too much like plastic and they just move them off to American Stonehenge to keep building it.
	So apparently the site was owned by a colonial family until 1937 when it was sold to an insurance executive named William Goodwin.
	And Goodwin, actually, he was really pilled on the idea that the site was constructed by Irish monks who were fleeing Vikings many years before America was actually colonized by Europeans.
	We're going live to Dhonie O'Sullivan?
	That's right.
	That's the real reason you brought me here.
	That's right.
	The Irish originally colonized the Americas.
	Feel free to debunk America's Stonehenge by just saying that sounds like rubbish.
	It's okay.
	I can just picture a four leaf clover growing out of this Stonehenge in New Hampshire.
	Yeah.
	So Goodwin called the site Mystery Hill.
	And he actually may actually be himself responsible for some of the structures on the site.
	So this is all just a tourist trap, basically.
	You can buy tickets for $12 a pop if you want to go see this.
	They have an alpaca farm now.
	There are lots of little attractions.
	One of the features of America's Stonehenge is a stone tablet that is called a sacrificial stone.
	And it's called that because it contains grooves that some claim that were once used to channel blood.
	So this is related to yet another baseless theory about the origins of the site, which say that the area was actually settled by ancient Phoenicians.
	So this is all pseudo-archaeology.
	They mean from Phoenix, Arizona.
	This is a belief that the current owners of the site actually promote themselves.
	There's a sign that says sacrificial stone and points to it.
	So they aren't trying to teach actual history of the site.
	Is this another case where QAnon people do something messed up but it turns out it's fine because it's like they killed a mob boss or they defaced a fraud?
	Well, yeah.
	So apparently that so-called sacrificial stone was actually probably maybe what they call a lye leaching stone, which 18th and 19th century farmers used to make soap.
	Other archaeologists speculate that it's a base plate for a cider press.
	But a stone for sacrificing animals and or people, it is not.
	There's no evidence of that.
	And that brings us to how QAnon fits in the story.
	So in 2019, someone vandalized the sacrificial stone by carving the QAnon slogan, where we go one, we go all, just the initials, WWG1WGA into it.
	Also inscribed on the tablet were the letters, I am Mark.
	In addition to that, Yeah, so these were not master criminals.
	They left their name right on the stone.
	But this also happened when the guy defaced a church.
	He was giving out cards with his name on them.
	Yes, right.
	He threw out his own business cards behind him as he left the scene.
	Hey, do you want your building defaced?
	Hey, I got pens, I got markers, I have a handful of spray paint cans.
	Call me.
	So, in addition to that, there was an 18-inch tall wooden cross that was left at the scene that was strung between two nearby trees.
	All that was in 2019, but just this past week, New Hampshire Police made an arrest in the case.
	The act was allegedly carried out by New Jersey man Mark Russo, 50 years old, who was charged with one count of felony criminal mischief.
	According to social media posts, his accomplice in the act was a man named Gani Indru.
	On October 19th, 2019, Gani tweeted a picture of the same cross that was left at the site, and that tweet included a very strange message that hints at Gani's motivations for the act of vandalism.
	We have to take out all of their evil, sacrificial, ancient tables that they have built around the world.
	The oldest one in the Americas in New Hampshire.
	We have taken many of them out, including New Hampshire.
	We must continue spells cast for 300 miles from ground zero.
	At real Donald Trump.
	You know, this is where my mom is gonna... She listens to everything I do, watches everything I do.
	My mom actually grew up in Boston, but this is where she's gonna be like, are you sure you want to live in this country?
	Mark Russo also openly tweeted about the act.
	He tweeted a photo of himself standing in front of the stone while wearing a QAnon shirt and a camo Trump hat.
	But Mark's tweet said this.
	There are so many layers here.
	There are so many layers here.
	Again, so he's super-pilled.
	He thinks he's a, you know, he's a spiritual warrior fighting the powers of demons and sacrifices.
	And he thinks that this stone is part of the, basically, the Cabal.
	But really, again, it's just part of a tourist trap that the owners of this tourist trap falsely claim is a sacrificial stone.
	He himself is battling phantoms of this grift, basically.
	He's battling the grift?
	He's battling the bake?
	That'll be a recurring theme in this episode, is covering things that either don't exist, are erasing themselves while they're happening, or rewrite themselves in front of your eyes.
	I want to give a shout out to a friend of the show, Dapper Gander, on Twitter, because he has actually been investigating this matter since the vandalism was first uncovered, and he's responsible for much of the information that we know about what exactly happened.
	Is he the guy who owns the stone?
	No, no, he's not.
	He's just someone who recognized that when it was first reported, the police actually thought it was perhaps an act of anti-Masonic vandalism because apparently that's still an issue on the East Coast.
	In the area, yeah.
	So a friend of the show, Dapper Gander, he noticed that the Where We Go One, We Go All, and he's able to alert people that there's actually a QAnon thing.
	So one, I mean, not particularly funny thing about this story is that apparently both Gany and Mark, years before the incident, they lost their adult sons.
	Gany lost his son Adam and Drew in a DUI traffic collision in 2013, and Mark Russo's son, Paul Russo, died after falling from a bridge over the Delaware River.
	It's suspected that Paul Rosso's son died from suicide.
	So they both often express their grief on social media, and they both decided independently that their son's deaths were actually a premeditated murder by shadowy forces.
	As time passed, both men recast their sons as spiritual warriors who were killed by servants of evil.
	Gany and Drew has tweeted that he believes that the Sandy Hook shooter Adam Lanza may have been somehow involved with his son's death, perhaps as a crisis actor or something?
	After Mark Russo saw a TV special about the so-called Smiley Face Killers on the Oxygen Network, he sent numerous tweets accusing the urban legend assassins of murdering his son and placing his body in the river.
	Mark has also tweeted that he believes that the Smiley Face Killers work for Barack Obama.
	In fact, we can see this on the wooden cross that was left at the site includes a picture of both men's sons.
	Wow, so they're really on a different spiritual plane.
	You know, really, like, we talk about parallel realities, but this is, um, this is something else.
	This is, yeah, I saw a lot of people compare this to, like, ISIS destroying ancient cultural artifacts, but this is a lot sadder and a lot dumber than all of that, honestly.
	Because it sounds like they were driven mad in part by grief, and they used this conspiratorial thinking to make sense of their loss, and they thought that they were basically destroying the Cabal's tools and stuff.
	Yeah, I mean, from the way you wrote it here, it seems like, yeah, you don't think that ISIS destroying ancient cultural artifacts is sad.
	No, no, it is, it is.
	Maybe you find it funny?
	You're always accusing me of, like, you know, being sympathetic to ISIS on this show.
	I always say I don't appreciate it.
	So, Mark seems to have discovered America's Stonehenge from a television show on the History Channel, H2.
	God fucking dammit!
	Yeah.
	Specifically, he saw an episode from Season 1 of America on Earth, which is basically like a pseudo-archaeology show.
	So, the layers of misinformation that drove him to this act is, yeah, tragic.
	I'm not a big cancel culture guy, but if there's one thing I'd like to cancel, it's the History Channel's ability to use the word history.
	Yeah.
	That's it.
	You can rename your fucking channel anything you want.
	If you have ancient aliens, if you have Tsoukalos going around the fucking world with his new fake hair.
	I feel very attacked here because for my episodes a lot of times the sources that I use happen to be from the history channel.
	It says history right in the name.
	There's an icon in the bottom of the screen.
	It's a big H. That means true.
	This wasn't the only site that Mark Grosso targeted.
	Since he took his grinder to that tablet at America's Stonehenge, he frequently indulged in fantasies of taking additional trips to vandalize other sites around the U.S.
	and Canada.
	For example— He had a bucket list.
	Yeah, he did.
	Places I'd like to sand down.
	He openly fantasized about the obelisks at Bunker Hill in Boston, the Washington Monument, the Mount Rushmore, and the Crazy Horse Monument in South Dakota.
	Yeah, those all kind of suck though, so that's fine.
	He has also tweeted about a boulder in Nova Scotia that is carved with a recreation of one of the Sigurd stones, which are stones carved with Swedish runic inscriptions.
	Now, not the actual stones that are in the UK, but rather a replica that is in Nova Scotia.
	So baked that like a imitation of some weird pagan thing he wants to destroy.
	This guy is going to be attacking the set of like BlizzCon 2021.
	Well, look, when you're a very busy person, you tend to reach towards things that are in your proximity.
	You know, he doesn't have time to travel to the UK and get the real ones.
	You know, this is his next best thing.
	For my next story, Trump's second inauguration on March 4th is a dud.
	Whoa, it seems like you're going to dunk on Dony for going there this early in the episode?
	Like he went there for nothing?
	Did you see how much wind there was in his hair during that entire segment?
	Yeah, I need to invest in some hairspray.
	It's not true.
	I think that moving with the wind is a sign that you haven't, you know, become too much of a modern man.
	So as fans of the show know, March 4th was supposed to be a big date in QAnon universe.
	It was based on this bizarre sovereign citizen belief that all laws and presidents after 1871 were illegitimate.
	And since the inauguration date prior to 1871 is March 4th, then QAnon followers reason Trump would be inaugurated the president of the restored United States Republic.
	Yeah.
	Now, what's interesting is that virtually all QAnon promoters denounce the date as a false flag.
	I think it's partly because it got too mainstream, too popular.
	Oh, of course.
	All the mainstream media was talking about it, and that's not cool.
	No, because then there are eyes on you if it doesn't happen.
	QAnon likes to move in silence and lasagna.
	They don't want a lot of people eyes on for the great disappointments, if you will.
	Silence and lasagna?
	It's a Lil Wayne lyric that he kinda fucked up.
	I don't think I fucked it up, I think I quoted it.
	No, move the silence like the G in lasagna.
	This is maybe the best moment on the show in our history when Travis corrected me on a Lil Wayne quote.
	I thought it was a Garfield reference, so I'm lost, boys.
	No, it's real G's moving silence like lasagna.
	Yeah, so good.
	So that's a good lyric.
	Yeah, it's a good lyric.
	Jake's is fine, too.
	Mine works.
	The day before March 4th, Capitol Police issued a statement claiming that they had intel on the possible security threat.
	It said this.
	The United States Capitol Police Department is aware of and prepared for any potential threats towards members of Congress or towards the Capitol complex.
	We have obtained intelligence that shows a possible plot to breach the Capitol by an identified militia group on Thursday, March the 4th.
	So, Dhoni, yeah, you were in D.C.
	that day, so what exactly did you witness?
	What is the Washington equivalent of a tumbleweed?
	A bill?
	Yeah, you know, we were there.
	I stood out in a very cold and, as you mentioned, windy Washington on March 4th.
	And yeah, nobody showed up.
	Not surprising, I would say.
	And you know, I think what was interesting about this was, of course, as you mentioned, there was a lot of talk about the 4th of March.
	We were talking about it a lot on air.
	Obviously, the Capitol Police were getting into it as well.
	Um, but we could also see that, you know, a lot of the folks that we, the main QAnon peddlers that we all know, um, many of them were, were telling their people that, you know, this is a false flag.
	This is a trap, much like what we saw ahead of the inauguration.
	Um, so it was, it was an interesting one because obviously for, for you guys as longtime QAnon followers, you know, there's bullshit dates that come up all the time, but since it was the first one, Since the insurrection, it took on that added significance.
	And I mean, I was quite surprised.
	I was quite surprised that they sort of locked down the Capitol in the way they did and delayed votes and whatnot.
	Well, there's never been mainstream coverage of anything like this.
	There's never been a date that QAnon had a prediction for that the entire mainstream covered so thoroughly as it was happening, before that date had passed.
	So we didn't see that for Red October.
	We didn't see that for, what was it, D11?
	D5.
	D5.
	Then they moved it to D11, if I remember.
	December 5th.
	Yeah, they kept shifting.
	But there's all of these dates.
	So do you think you changed this by looking at it?
	Well, I mean, that's the sort of really nutty thing about all of this, right, is even to the point of the intelligence bulletins that are informing what the FBI is doing and things like that.
	You know, sometimes, we don't know because we haven't seen those bulletins, what that data is based off of, but sometimes it's just pretty raw stuff from which they're grabbing from Telegram, which might be grabbing from 4chan or 8kun or elsewhere.
	And sometimes, of course, that is normally just a lot of talk.
	It's a lot of chatter.
	Chatter is the word they keep using in Washington for some reason.
	And, you know, normally it's guys who literally never come out from behind their computer screens, but because we live in this weird moment right now where we basically saw the physical manifestation of the online mob on January 6th, everything's taken a bit more serious.
	You know, I would say that had I just been monitoring Telegram and, you know, reading the queue forms I read, I would have said, yeah, nobody believes this, you know, basically nobody.
	But then, as you mentioned, I was out in Ventura, California a few weeks ago where Travis was too, and I came across a couple of people who brought up the Fort and were totally convinced something was going to happen.
	That was quite surprising for me because that was, you know, normally what we've seen with a lot of these conspiracy theories is how remarkable on message a lot of the followers are.
	But in this case, there seemed to be some genuine confusion.
	Yeah, I think this is another case where there was a bit of a division between the rank and file QAnon followers and the main influencers.
	And we see that we've seen this repeatedly.
	This is we had this issue with the JFK Jr.
	Live stuff, which was sort of a grassroots kind of movement within the QAnon community, but was denounced by almost every major influencer, and even Q. Q itself, yeah.
	So this is a thing that we're like, yeah, the people on the ground were really like the whole March 4th thing, but everyone who was a little bit savvier, who had an audience, knew that this March 4th thing was bad news.
	They denounced it.
	They said that it's a false flag, or it's an invention by the media, which is not true.
	I mean, the reality is if you're not part of the organizing, there's a tendency, especially for the older people, to just say it's false flag, say it's Antifa or whatever, and kind of throw it out because they're not going to get anything from it.
	So we saw that happening with the Save the Children rallies and stuff like that.
	You know, I've never seen a date that the mainstream people get behind that involves an actual physical gathering for human beings.
	To go do something like that's not what they like.
	No for them.
	It's like we'll find out gitmo is now packed You know and that they were flying them in like through good cargo planes did anyone consider going to the Trump Hotel and just hanging out in the lobby and looking for someone who's a bit half drunk and Confused because I bet there were at least a handful of people just kind of there going.
	Well, what the fuck funny you should ask I'm I went.
	I went to log to the Trump Hotel.
	Really?
	But I went to log to the Trump Hotel the night before March 4th.
	And I might have been the drunk and confused one by the end of it.
	But no, I got to DC.
	We came from CPAC.
	I was quite tired.
	Got to DC the day before the 4th.
	I was telling all my colleagues, I was like, we all know nothing's really probably going to materialize tomorrow, but also understood that we needed to cover it.
	That's what happens when you're a reporter under 30.
	I said, I said, you know, we should send somebody out to the Trump Hotel to have a check it out, have them check it out, just see if there's folks hanging out, if there's a big crowd.
	And he was like, why don't you go?
	That's what happens when you're a reporter under 30.
	They just throw you into the meat grinder.
	You know, why don't you go and enjoy that for yourself?
	So it was my first time in there.
	It was very quiet.
	I had a mojito.
	No, I didn't have a mojito.
	I had a martini.
	Excuse me.
	A martini and a hamburger.
	It set you back, what, $50?
	It set CNN back $50.
	I got the salad instead of the fries.
	I'm trying to work on this bod right now.
	Summer's coming.
	Given I have the hair flowing in the wind.
	Exactly.
	Well great, so you're telling me you didn't see a single person who looked a bit confused with a MAGA hat?
	There were people there what I would say are questionable haircuts, but I also have a questionable haircut, so who am I to judge?
	No, there was just some folks hanging out.
	There was a few folks where I was like, You know, he could be a proud boy, I guess.
	But nobody that was in there waving a MAGA flag or with a QAnon t-shirt.
	But I did get a hamburger.
	So nice.
	I'm really worried that I get why the mainstream media latched onto this one.
	We're like, you know, obviously just a couple months out from a deadly insurrection.
	But I do want to caution, I really hope they don't latch onto every single QAnon date from now on, because that would be disastrous.
	Because you can't just be led around by the nose by the kooky fantasies of the QAnon constantly moving date of the apocalypse.
	That's why I was trying to do good by posting on the main QAA account that the new date, because we know the date always, the new date is 4-20-2069.
	And so when that date comes around, you better have your ears to the ground.
	I totally agree.
	You know, as soon as the Ford passed, me and my colleagues, folks were asking me, you know, oh, I hear there's a new date, April or March 20 and all this.
	And you're totally right.
	I mean, it was pretty surreal to be standing in Washington on the Ford because of all of this.
	But then, of course, you know, in the reality is, is that it did have a meaningful impact in terms of the heightened security presence in Washington.
	Now, you might say, well, was that also because the mainstream media was talking about it?
	I feel that we were not.
	I hope I really hope we're not going to be chasing every single date.
	But you know, a lot of times, if it comes out that the FBI has put out a bulletin about X, Y and Z, and it leads to developments in Washington, then that is something that you have to cover.
	But it is, I mean, it's surreal.
	I mean, I, I sort of had the sense that especially when they delayed, or moved around some of the actual proceedings in the Congress on Thursday, I really thought that was sort of sending the messages, hey, we're handing this over to conspiracy theorists, they're going to dictate our schedule here.
	Well, and it's tricky, too, because these dates are not coming from Q anymore.
	You know, the last time Q posted was, what, December 8th?
	Yeah, yeah.
	December 8th of last year.
	And so when these dates are surfacing, they're surfacing from, you know, I think a combination of influencers And, you know, rank-and-file QAnon believers, something gets hot on Telegram, or something gets hot on the chans, and it kind of bubbles its way to the surface.
	But it is now community-driven, as opposed to, you know, a direct date given by, you know, Q itself.
	Yeah, and we'll be looking at the Q-drop that kind of allowed them to kind of break away or kind of encouraged them to break away, you know.
	For my next story, Fox News host Tucker Carlson deflects for QAnon.
	So I think, you know, an interesting question is like how more, I guess, more mainstream Republicans or conservatives are going to handle the problem of QAnon.
	And we got a peek into how that's going to happen when Tucker Carlson basically tried to say that QAnon isn't a thing or isn't something worth worrying about.
	The first thing that Carlson did was back on February 23rd was claim that he couldn't even find any evidence that this so-called QAnon is real.
	So it's worth finding out where the public is getting all this false information, this disinformation as we'll call it.
	So we checked.
	We spent all day trying to locate the famous QAnon, which in the end we learned is not even a website.
	If it's out there, we could not find it.
	Then we checked Marjorie Taylor Greene's Twitter feed because we have heard she traffics in disinformation, CNN told us.
	But nothing there.
	I mean, Fox News has a decent QAnon explainer on their website that was published by one of their reporters.
	What about Jesse Watters?
	He could probably tell Tucker what the deal is.
	I don't know if his explainer would be very...
	You know what struck me about this, and I mean I think this is even a bit too crazy for you guys, but when I listened to him saying that, and I guess he was just trying to make the point, he was obviously just trying to downplay QAnon, And I'm not suggesting he knew what he was doing.
	But when I heard him say that, when I heard him say I couldn't find QAnon, it reminded me of all the people.
	I speak to so many QAnon believers who say there is no QAnon.
	There is Q and then there are the Anons.
	And I can almost like guarantee that the next time I'm out and about and put to somebody, About Tucker, about finding QAnon.
	Somebody probably will say to me, well, no, actually, if you listen to what he said, because it is very similar.
	You know, he specifically said there is no QAnon, which is precisely what we hear.
	So I might have looked into it a bit, a bit too much.
	Well, it certainly at least uses the same rhetorical, like, cloaking device.
	Right.
	More recently, Tucker downplayed QAnon by saying that they're all gentle people.
	You ever notice how all, like, the scary internet conspiracy theorists, radical QAnon people, when you actually see them on camera or in jail cells, as a lot of them now are, maybe they're kind of confused, maybe they've got the wrong ideas, but they're all kind of gentle people, and they're all kind of waving American flags, they like the country.
	They're not torching Wendy's.
	They're not looting retail stores.
	They're not shooting cops.
	No, that's not them.
	Please, please, let's see this humanist side of you when you're dealing with your ideological enemies or the masses of people seeking asylum or whatever.
	Because you suddenly seem real, real loose, Tucker.
	Just isn't like you.
	Yeah, I mean, it's one of those things where it's like, I guess the general premise is true.
	Most QAnon followers are not a threat to anyone.
	We've all attended QAnon events, you too, Dodie, and I've never felt personally threatened in any kind of way or anything like that.
	They're not all like, you know, like I said, they're not skinheads.
	They're not neo-Nazis.
	They always fantasize about someone else doing violence on their behalf.
	They have a fascist ideology, don't get me wrong.
	But personally, they don't want to do something ugly.
	Usually.
	But Tucker's not looking for subtlety here.
	He's looking to extend to the kind of shock troops that he sees on his side or whatever, the kind of courtesy he'll never extend to someone else.
	Yeah, when I first started covering QAnon, I knew I didn't want to be a fearmonger.
	want to cover up the I didn't want to cover up the ugliness of their ideology and I didn't want to deny the fact that QAnon followers have been charged with like murder and arson and a conspiracy to commit kidnapping and terrorism in one instance and all of these awful things while also acknowledging that the majority aren't like that they like at best feed into this more more militant kinds of extremism which is very disturbing But I don't know.
	I'm trying to find the right, subtle way to accurately describe this movement, which is bad and awful, but I don't know.
	That's frustrating.
	What's strange is that in a kind of roundabout way, the idea of there is no QAnon isn't wrong.
	Here it's used as a rhetorical tool to escape blame or escape scrutiny, but it's not wrong in that when we say, well, QAnon believers have done this, this, this, and this, oftentimes they are not necessarily motivated by QAnon when they do those things.
	It just happens that they're also QAnon believers, which all contributes in a million different ways.
	But the reality is you're dealing with an ideology.
	It's a phantom.
	At any point, you can believe or not believe in QAnon.
	And we can't tell that from the outside.
	We have to interview you.
	You have to go out in the field like Tony does and speak to people.
	Today, do you believe?
	Which part?
	You know?
	And that's what's so messy about it is that we are essentially chasing phantoms of a kind of ideological mysticism that is really springing up due to a lot of other factors.
	Look, obviously, Tucker is engaging in a bad faith argument.
	And I tried so hard.
	I tried so hard to avoid it because, you know, he's also tried to bait a lot of us into posting about it.
	I tried quite hard until they eventually asked me to go on television to talk about this very thing.
	But, you know, it's the idea, just the idea that he couldn't find QAnon is just so ridiculous.
	And the thing is that is like, if you really think that they're, you know, they're just they're really gentle people who just love the country, then surely you must hate the fact that QAnon is motivating them to take these criminal actions that are derailing or ruining their lives, right?
	It's like you should you should despise the fact that, you know, that QAnon is is leading people down this dark path where all of a sudden they are in serious legal jeopardy that they would not be in if it weren't for QAnon.
	Tucker, debate Travis Few on your show.
	This is a standing challenge.
	Oh boy.
	I represent him.
	I mean, Donnie's right.
	It's so bad faith because, you know, he uses this example so, you know, they're not burning a Wendy's.
	But they did go to a pizza shop and fire a couple rounds from a semi-automatic rifle in there.
	You know, you can't leave that kind of...
	stuff out, and obviously that was Pizzagate, but it's, you know, totally similar ideology, almost the exact same.
	Well, what's really funny is, like, Tucker prefers it when a confused QAnon follower, like, takes a potshot at a pizzeria than when someone identifies that, like, corporations or the police have done things that have crushed them and their lives, and so then they burn the corporations or they attack, like, the police precinct.
	He sees that as way too material.
	It's terrifying for him because people are identifying things, and then they're, whether you agree with their methods or not, they're applying pressure towards that existing power.
	QAnon is a way to completely disenfranchise you from any, like, ability to point to actual power.
	And that's what he fucking loves about it.
	For our next story, yet another QAnon follower charged for participating in the Capitol riot.
	So, an Idaho woman who participated in the storming of the Capitol on January 6th was taken into custody without incident by officers with Homeland Security Investigations, the Boise Police Department, and members of the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force.
	This was first reported by the local news station KTVB.
	So five days before the Capitol riot, the woman whose name is, she has a great name, Yvonne Saint-Cyr.
	Yvonne Saint-Cyr.
	Well, OK.
	No, it's fine.
	She seems like she has some French origins, but you've never had a respect for our... Don't pretend right now.
	Yvonne uploaded a video of herself talking about QAnon while she was in the middle of her cross-country trip to Washington, D.C.
	D.C.
	or bust.
	Stop the steal.
	And Joe Biden is not my president.
	So car's all decorated now.
	We are in...
	Wyoming, getting ready to get back on the road.
	Here, will you hold it so I can drive?
	And so I wanted to, I had a thought.
	I read, um, on the way here that Pence resigned.
	I don't know if it's true or not, and it was a Q thing, so I don't, I don't, I have no idea because I have been driving and not confirming, but I had a thought.
	If Pence resigned, what if JFK Jr.
	is going to be sworn in as the Vice President on the 6th, and I will be there to see it, and then you can all Poundstand because I tell you, I'm telling you, he is alive.
	JFK Jr.
	is alive and I think that we may get to see him.
	I'm so excited!
	So anyways, we're back on the road.
	I know my hair is crazy.
	It's very windblown out here in Wyoming.
	So we got a few more thousand miles to go.
	Stop the steal!
	We're on our way!
	Here we come DC!
	Love you guys!
	Bye!
	Exciting stuff.
	Took a year out of my life.
	Driving all the way across the country to see JFK Jr.
	get sworn in.
	I would drive all the way to D.C.
	to see that, honestly.
	I would smear my windows with what looks like bird shit, you know, and talk to a camera.
	I love it.
	It's like, oh, well, I can't confirm that Mike Pence stepped down, but I can pretty much confirm that JFK Jr.
	is alive and is going to be inaugurated.
	But you know, I think this also shows that The conspiracy theory that the election was stolen, the one actively being promoted by the former president, it just enables so much of the rest of the sort of QAnon crazy, you know, because it has that nugget, you know, that that is now basically that conspiracy theory is at the core of everything else.
	I mean, March 4th was sort of at the core of the election not being legitimate.
	And that's a very dangerous space because that's not going to change.
	You know, you're going to see Marjorie Taylor Greene and many other Republicans who are still going along with the idea that the election was stolen.
	According to the criminal complaint, she filmed the destruction of an office window from within the Capitol and continued to record herself standing in the window and shouting at the crowd located on the west side of the Capitol grounds.
	In a live video that appears to have been recorded following the Capitol riot, she talks about breaching the building and her belief in QAnon.
	I fight for us.
	I really do.
	It's not a show.
	It's for my grandkids.
	And for you and me.
	Sorry, it's been a rough day.
	Trump's Twitter account got taken down.
	That's red one.
	That's a sign, a Q sign.
	So I'm still faithful and hopeful that maybe America needed to see this today.
	Maybe America needed to see how ugly it was and how sad it is that we have no voice anymore.
	We've allowed this to happen.
	We went to sleep and we let them take our government over.
	They infiltrated it in every area.
	They cheated.
	That election was stolen 100% without a doubt.
	There is tons of evidence.
	He shared it all today.
	You aren't going to hear it on the media.
	They're not going to tell you because they want you to think it's gone and that we lost, but we didn't.
	And that's why we stormed the Capitol because we didn't lose.
	They stole this election.
	Yeah, she's just so far gone.
	And like, he's still certain that she's in the right, and confessing to the crime that got her arrested immediately after the act.
	Because again, this is the thing that we saw in the case with Mark Russo and the tablet in America's Stonehenge, is that they think that their cause is so righteous that they don't even realize what they're doing is going to get them in trouble legally.
	For our next story, local man's Irish accent mocked by pro-QAnon podcasters.
	Famed local Irishman Donny O'Sullivan published a piece for CNN recently that angered longtime QAnon promoters Jeffrey Peterson, aka In The Matrix, and his co-host Shady Groove.
	They took to the air and expressed their grievances.
	We were on CNN a couple of times this weekend, Shady.
	We were?
	We were.
	You and I. Oh my goodness.
	Doni?
	Was Doni talking about us?
	Doni O'Sullivan infiltrated the Matris Grove Show event.
	He has also been in the MGShow chat, voice, and telegram.
	Shady Grove.
	He's coming in to get red pills too?
	Yeah.
	And he came into our chat and we actually thought his name was Doni, but apparently it's Doni.
	Apparently it's Doni.
	Doni.
	So let's play this.
	This is a little Simpsons reference there at the end.
	So here in our second clip, this local victim of these two podcasters, well, they accuse him of showing up to an event uninvited.
	Did you see the camera picture?
	I know you guys don't see it on the radio, but the picture of Donnie and the other gentleman, it was really nice.
	They look like they were scared.
	Donnie's head is, you know, crushed a little bit, so the mask almost covered his eyes.
	And also, they pan to these two guys, and they look like they're trembling in their boots, Shady.
	And then one of the organizers is right behind him, and then they film up right into No one knew we were in there.
	Well, let's see what Q said on that day.
	they call him.
	And he like did a muscle flex like he was waiting for that camera shot shady.
	No one knew we were in there.
	Well, let's see what Q said on that day.
	Q said, there is Q one and there are anons two.
	There is no QAnon, three.
	Media labeling as QAnon is a method, deliberate, to combine and attach Q to comments, theories, and suggestions, and statements, and actions made by, two, anons.
	What happens when you cannot attack the information?
	Primary source, one.
	Do you attack and typecast through use of others?
	Not all anons are authentic.
	Injected.
	You are correct, CJ.
	Retweet at 1717 had meaning.
	Mathematical probability 1717 the day after?
	You believe it was a coincidence that surgical removal of YouTube accounts occurred the same day as the hunter drop?
	Welcome to the digital battlefield.
	I find it very curious how Q seemed to know that these guys were in that conference room that day.
	So, that's evidence that will be compounded by an accusation of another local man, Travis View.
	Yeah, and also, wasn't it the JFK Jr.
	guy?
	Travis View was queued as well, and he was in there as well.
	Yeah, that was his Twitter post, the tweet from him right at the beginning of that post.
	Correct.
	And it happens a lot, you know, that Q posts during our shows, and he posted during our live show there in Scottsdale, basically warning us that this was about to happen if future proves past, Shady.
	Exactly.
	I mean, you know, like I said, it's very funny that they came there, they sat there, they got all this footage, they had, like you were pointing out, whenever you watched that clip, they're literally filming As they're talking in perfect sync and then they're panning up to the QAnon shaman guy standing in the back of the room the whole time.
	It's almost like they brought him with them.
	Yeah, it is.
	And how did this guy, I mean, I could barely get to Arizona.
	I had to rely on donations.
	Zoltan, thank you very much for helping me get to Arizona.
	How did this guy get, he lived in Arizona, but how did he get to the Georgia rally and DC and all these places that he's been seen?
	I don't know, but it wasn't just that.
	He was also seen at a bunch of other rallies earlier in the year, or let's call them riots, earlier in the year by BLM and then was at the Capitol building the day before and the day of January 6th.
	Interesting.
	Very well funded.
	This is bullshit, by the way, because we saw In the Matrix at the most expensive steakhouse that evening.
	In Florida.
	So I reject his premise that he ... That was Tampa.
	Oh, well, same shit, I guess.
	It's OK.
	I think he's still wealthy wherever he goes.
	He's still wealthy wherever he goes is the point I was making.
	He's a former sales executive.
	Yeah, he's going to be fine.
	But yeah, and also the idea that Jacob Chansley, who shows up like with the same costume and the same exact sign everywhere, is this wealthy man.
	Yeah, super unlikely.
	No, I've seen the Q Shaman's car.
	He's not a wealthy man.
	Yeah.
	I also love the idea that the QAnon knew I was there, or that Q knew I was there.
	Yes, Q posted.
	That's fantastic.
	And also the footage, which is taken by me, which is what he doesn't realize, because I was sitting right in front of you, and I thought it was very funny that you were sitting there with your mask, kind of hiding, trying to hide in your seat, while behind you this guy was flexing, and they're like, look, look, he panned up to the flexing Q Shaman.
	And so the idea here is that you, so there was at least Dhoni, Travis, and the Q Shaman, were all funded by the same entity to come to QCon to humiliate them.
	All in cahoots, all leading up to his arrest.
	We rode them together.
	On January 6th to make him the Q scapegoat.
	Yeah, my sorrows check is still in the mail.
	We're all waiting for payment.
	For my next story, The Q Shaman Speaks.
	Jacob Chansley, better known as the Q Shaman, spoke publicly for the first time in an interview since his arrest with journalist Laurie Siegel for 60 Minutes.
	So here is part of that interview.
	Your actions on January 6th were an attack on this country.
	My actions were not an attack on this country.
	That is incorrect.
	That is inaccurate.
	Entirely.
	How would you describe them?
	My actions personally?
	On January 6th.
	My actions on January 6th?
	How would I describe them?
	Well, I sang a song.
	And that's a part of shamanism.
	It's about creating positive vibrations in a sacred chamber.
	I also stop people from stealing and vandalizing that sacred space, the Senate.
	Okay, I actually stopped somebody from stealing muffins out of the break room.
	I also said a prayer in that sacred chamber because it was my intention to bring divinity and to bring God back into the Senate.
	But Jake, legally you were not allowed to be in what you're calling the sacred chamber.
	And that is the one very serious regret that I have, was believing that when we were waved in by police officers that it was acceptable.
	Do you still believe you're a patriot?
	I consider myself a lover of my country.
	I consider myself a believer in the Constitution.
	I consider myself a believer in truth and our founding principles.
	I consider myself a believer in God.
	Also interviewed by 60 Minutes was the Q Shaman's mom, Martha Chansley.
	And she appears to be extremely pilled, and in fact still believes that the election was stolen.
	This was an attack on the U.S.
	Capitol, and your son was a part of it, whether or not you say he was violent.
	Do you see the gravity of it?
	Of course, of course.
	I feel the gravity of it because my son is in, you know, he's, he's where he is right now.
	So if he could take it back, he would.
	I know that he's, he's sorry, but again, it all, it all comes back to he, he walked through open doors.
	Did it look like the doors were just peacefully open to the public?
	Peacefully is... why the word peacefully?
	I mean, the doors were open.
	They were letting people in.
	They were overcome by a group of people, many of whom were armed.
	Jacob wasn't a part of that.
	I hear you saying, well, you know, my son was there, but he wasn't a part of the bad part of it.
	Right.
	I think that's really important to understand that.
	But wasn't all of that bad?
	Wasn't any attack on the Capitol, any interruption of our democratic process, isn't all of that bad?
	No, I don't think, I don't think that the process of being able to go and exercise your right to To free speech and to stand up for what you believe is right.
	But it is not your right to interrupt the democratic process.
	It is not your right to breach the Capitol, to go where you are not legally allowed to be.
	You know what I would say to that is I don't think it's right that it was won fraudulently.
	I don't believe it was won fairly at all.
	Absolutely not.
	Yeah, this whole case is interesting.
	I think it's worth touching upon why of all the people who participate in the Capitol riot, and they all did a bad thing, obviously.
	But why the Q Shaman is getting the most attention?
	And it's not because he poses the greatest threat to national security amongst all the people who participated.
	It's not because he was the most violent or even because he had the, you know, the most violent ideology.
	It's because he is the most flamboyant.
	He looks the craziest.
	Yeah, he looks kookiest.
	If you are like, you know, a maybe a militia who actually has revolutionary ideas and you want to, you know, behead a bunch of lawmakers in order to You're happy that the attention is being paid to this clown, basically.
	Of course!
	Because that takes the attention and heat off of your very malicious intentions.
	Yeah, also he's the perfect kind of like lone wolf figure because he wasn't really attached to any of the groups that were more organized.
	So it's perfect!
	Oath keepers, I think, deserve a little bit more attention for their participation than the Q-Shaman.
	I'll just say that.
	Well, Donnie, finally, after putting you through all of this pain and misery and suffering, we're going to put you in the hot seat and focus on you.
	Travis has some questions.
	Yeah, I want to ask, how exactly did you get to covering this?
	I get this question a lot.
	I just think that this particular topic matches my particular collection of mental illnesses best.
	So why exactly did you start covering this?
	Well, when I started working at CNN about five years ago, my job, I was doing it at a startup in Ireland first.
	We would take breaking news videos, YouTube videos, a lot of stuff coming out of the Arab Spring, a lot of stuff coming out of the Syrian war, videos normally of bombings, etc., but sometimes that were either mischaracterized or misdated or were being faked in some way.
	So we were vetting stuff in real time to make sure if something showed up on television and breaking news if it was a social media video or image that it was actually from that event and I was doing that at CNN for a while and it eventually became Came a full-time job and obviously QAnon was part of that.
	But we were pretty slow.
	We were pretty slow to talk a lot about QAnon.
	Intentionally, you know, we saw it popping up at events and things.
	But, you know, when you have a platform the size of CNN, you think about, you know, by calling something out, are you unintentionally amplifying in some way?
	Obviously, You know, in the second half of 2020, between Trump talking about it and essentially embracing it, you know, it sort of became a no brainer to talk about it.
	But but we were watching it for a long time rather than than talking about it.
	So was there a specific moment where you realized QAnon wasn't just a fringe thing that you could be safe, that could safely be ignored?
	And this is something that is going to be significant and a significant part of American politics.
	I mean, this is this is sort of a late example, but having following the Save the Children movement and seeing that grow over the COVID lockdown.
	And also, I remember being up in Duluth, which I can't say because of my Irish accent, with the TH's in Minnesota, in northern Minnesota, and a merchant vendor outside a Trump rally telling me that, you know, Demand for QAnon merchandise had exploded over the past few months.
	And there was just a few things from being on the road, you know, that I just said, wow, this is this is actually everywhere.
	And of course, there's no way to measure quite how big it is, but it was everywhere.
	Yeah, I mean, you're best known for your one-on-one interviews with QAnon followers, like in the field, at rallies.
	I'm interested in how you get these, because you're with CNN, you're honest about this to the people you speak to.
	I mean, do people ever turn you down?
	Do you get any jeering comments about your affiliation with CNN?
	Oh, I watched Donnie get chased right down the sidewalk by this guy who just, he just wanted to continue having a conversation.
	And it was pretty funny because it's like they didn't really want to fully attack you, but they would kind of like yell at you and start pointing fingers a little bit.
	You would walk like kind of half a block, they would disperse, then walk back the other way to try to escape them again.
	It was like slow motion, cartoonish almost.
	Is that habitual?
	Yes, yes.
	I mean, a ton of people just will not speak to us, you know, and the reaction sometimes is, you know, and I'll normally say with a big jolly smile on my face behind my mask, I'll say, yep, but I'm from CNN.
	So a ton of folks won't talk to us.
	Others, you know, they won't like CNN, but they like the idea that I'm Irish and the novelty of speaking to a leprechaun, as it were.
	So, was there an interview that you did in the field that was cut from broadcast that you thought was particularly interesting?
	Yeah, the one that you were going to get in trouble for, that one.
	Can you just tell us exactly what it was?
	Oh man, I get in trouble all the time.
	You know, every time we come back from these events, you know, obviously CNN is a big place, it's a big bureaucracy sometimes.
	We got I've got standards to deal with lawyers many editors and you know a lot of times it is an absolute minefield to try and work through with you know all the people I work with to give them the understanding and to explain to them why we should be even showing any of this the light of day.
	I think there's been interviews all over the place that we've either cut for time or just haven't been.
	You know, there's been so much that I've actually watched back recently, because we were on road pretty much for six months now.
	Some of the people we've met along the way showed up at the Capitol.
	Some of the people we met along the way, I think, are still on the FBI's most wanted list.
	We don't always get people's names.
	So there's a ton there.
	I'm trying to think if something sticks out.
	I mean, I would love to do, you know, my birthday's coming up, just plugging, I don't have a, I don't have a, I can send across my Vinmo cash app.
	I would, I would really like my producers or editors to do a monster, a mashup of, you know, just all the many times I've been told to fuck off.
	An appeal to the editorial CNN team to allow the fuck-off compilation to be released.
	Precisely.
	I'm interested now, you were with me at that event at Ventura, and that wasn't specifically billed as a QAnon event.
	It was like a Recall Gavin Newsom event, but it was heavily attended by QAnon followers, influenced by QAnon followers.
	There's Judy Mikovits, who was huge with QAnon there at the event.
	So what do you make of it?
	The strange sort of awkward relationship between these conservative political organizers and QAnon, because it seems though they welcome the support of QAnon, they welcome the money of QAnon, but they don't want to acknowledge that QAnon is in their ranks.
	They don't want to, like, you know, acknowledge, you know, I guess QAnon generally.
	Yeah, I think that is going to be one of the sort of defining stories of the next two years, actually, when it comes to politics nationally, right?
	Because if you think Trump is going to try and get candidates to primary any person who's spoken out against him, so like the likes of Liz Cheney, and A lot of those candidates are going to be getting their support from the QAnon caucus, essentially.
	So to see that play out, to see that dance happening, without overplaying the role of QAnon, I think it plays an extremely important part of what is the future of the Republican Party and what is the future of politics in the United States.
	It was striking.
	I spoke to one of the main organizers from the Recall Newsome event.
	You know, seemed like a nice guy, respectful guy, spoke, he was quite polished.
	And, you know, he said, I have nothing to do with QAnon, but like in the shot or right behind our shot, there was a huge QAnon flag flying.
	So I think it's going to be a major story.
	And, you know, I hate to be talking about elections already.
	But the 2022 midterms, precisely that, how these conservative Republican organizations interface with the QAnon caucus is going to be fascinating.
	It sometimes feels like we're trying to capture a story being written in disappearing ink.
	You know, QAnon content is often wiped from social media, events get canceled, dates don't materialize.
	But one thing that I think, like, you can't really delete online is the ideology that people carry with them and that you often draw out with your interviews.
	I kind of was thinking about this yesterday, but do you ever get the feeling that we're covering phantoms?
	Yeah, it's...
	It's also, it's so, what I find most fascinating of speaking to a lot of folks on the road is, you know, how people have all found their way to Q and QAnon.
	In such different paths.
	Some it's from Save the Children.
	Some it's true Trump.
	Some it's true people who are flat earthers.
	But it is that.
	Everybody's finding their way to QAnon.
	But it's almost like there's an invisible hand pushing them there.
	And you're right.
	A lot of the evidence is being taken down.
	Accounts being shut down.
	Disappearing, obviously with stuff moving into different types of apps.
	And yeah, you know, I think every time I do one of these stories, I'm thinking, you know, we got close there to figuring out how this person really went down this rabbit hole.
	But there's always just so many unknowns.
	One thing that I also wanted to talk about a little bit is how mentally exhausting it can get to cover all this stuff.
	And, you know, as people have kind of gotten to know you as a reporter, specifically, I hear that you're a golden boy now back in Ireland and that they have banners that unfurl when you get off the plane.
	But what's cool is that you've kind of started opening up about mental health and all that.
	So could you tell us a bit more about that?
	Yeah, you know, yes, it's been it's been quite funny to particularly after the the insurrection, you know, that was that was sort of prime time in Ireland, I guess, you know, afternoon here in the East Coast is 8, 9, 10pm in in Ireland.
	So a lot of folks turned on the TV in Ireland and were shocked to see An Irish guy so I thought you know mental health is talked about a bit differently in Ireland than it is here and it's still you know it's getting a lot better but it's still quite taboo for especially for men sort of young men to talk about so I figured I'd use my 15 minutes of fame to talk a bit about it and.
	You know, sort of the stuff I've gone through, depression and anxiety and whatnot.
	But what I would say about all of this is, you know, I meet many people, many people who come to QAnon are sort of in a crisis of their own, right?
	These are personal, financial, political, I guess, in some ways.
	But I do think that there's an interesting parallel there between, I certainly know when I'm feeling depressed or anxious, You know, you sort of cast a wide net and you start thinking about existential questions, essentially, that you normally wouldn't think about and you're willing to embrace.
	Very irrational answers, whether that's about yourself or your life or your relationships.
	And I feel in some ways that that is how we've seen the explosion of QAnon over the past 12 months.
	I mean, as a society, we are living through an extremely anxious, unprecedented time with lockdowns and this virus.
	And, you know, just as I think we are capable when feeling that angst to embrace the irrational about ourselves, We're also capable of doing that when it comes to conspiracy theories.
	And I think particularly with COVID, you know, I think people I saw early on in COVID, people really wanted to believe the idea that COVID was made in a lab by, you know, evil geniuses, either in Washington or in China.
	And in some ways having, I think, the belief there that somebody, even if they're evil, that someone is in control, that somebody, you know, is in charge of all of this, is easier to understand than, you know, that this is a virus that happened in nature, etc., etc., is something that we cannot control.
	And without going on too much, I do think that then also comes back to Q, right?
	Because Q is somebody who's in control.
	It's somebody who has all the answers.
	It's someone, you know, particularly if you're a religious person, you're dealing with religious texts that are thousands of years old.
	If QAnon is your godlike character and up until recently was posting, you know, several times a day or several times a week, that's really, really appealing if you're in a state of anxiety because somebody seems to be in charge.
	And they're also giving you directions on something to do, you know, do your own research.
	You know, it gives people something to pass the time with, you know, so they don't necessarily have to be, you know, locked into their own, you know, the neighborhood in their head that they're hanging out in.
	Absolutely.
	And, you know, it struck me when we went to that event, somewhat undercover, in Arizona in October, the QAnon event, You know, that they were up there on stage citing specific Q posts as if they were religious scripture, you know, by number, as if they were as if they were verses in the Bible.
	It's and the more people I talk to now, as we do quite a bit of focus now on the victims of QAnon, whether they be people who have left QAnon or people who are in families, you know, that's the story we're hearing more and more that there's that mental health is obviously a huge part of it.
	It's not it's totally not the full reason for it.
	You know, many people are engaging with it based off hate and other reasons.
	But it is a huge, huge part of it.
	And so what's next for your coverage?
	Where are they going to send you next to risk your life?
	Who's telling Donnie to fuck off this week?
	Yeah, yeah.
	They're like, I had to send that Irish guy.
	Whatever.
	You know, I think a big story for us for, you know, I was certainly struck by when we entered that event in Ventura, where Travis was at, was, you know, anti-vaxxers is obviously a thing that is becoming, I think, popular.
	Certainly something that's circulating hugely in this community, but also I think that story I mentioned of what the hell is going to happen next with the Republican Party and I think you're going to see in states and districts where there's a Trump backing Trump.
	Supporting candidate is primering a sitting Republican.
	I think you're going to see a lot of QAnon, a lot of Stop the Steal, a lot of those characters who we met on the road to the January 6th insurrection are going to be popping up there again.
	So I think that's going to be a huge story to cover.
	And I suspect I'll be getting, hopefully, to go to many political rallies and talking to more folks along the way.
	Thank you so much, obviously, for coming on.
	People can follow you on Twitter.
	You managed to snag just your first name.
	What's up with that?
	It's impressive.
	I mean, it's hardly a popular name, is it?
	D-O-N-I-E.
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	I'll do it a bit more cheerful.
	Sure.
	Sure There's only been one that was on our radar, and it's like falling apart at the fucking seams.
	There's no fucking way.
	We haven't preserved shit, and it's like we're not probably not going to do it.
	Basically, we saw it.
	It was an event in Florida.
	It was an evening with Michael Flynn.
	It was very weird.
	They had tickets on for sale initially, but then those were taken away and they said, like, we're gonna tell you what the venue is 12 hours before it actually takes place.

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