Premium Episode 106: Sovereign Citizens with Allie Mezei (Sample)
Abiding by maritime law, signing documents with cryptic statements and refusing to use zip codes. The sovereign citizens have it all figured out. Deep dish attorney Allie Mezei breaks down their various concepts and plunges us deep into the “Posse Comitatus” movement and its links to Christian identitarianism, white supremacy, the infiltration of the farm protest movement and a spate of kidnappings and murders.
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Mr. Edwards, this is the time and place set for your arraignment.
Do you consent to have an arraignment by video conference?
Sir, is this a maritime Admiralty Law courtroom that we're processing me through?
No, it's not.
This is not a maritime Admiralty Law courtroom?
No.
Absolutely it is.
All courtrooms in this country are maritime Admiralty Law courtrooms that process people, aren't they?
No, sir.
That's false information.
Well, either way, this courtroom is trying to process me as state property.
You see this fictitious name statement?
Asher Edwards spelled in all capital letters?
This is not my name.
This name was issued to me without my consent and you cannot legally process me through this courtroom.
With this, uh, without this name in all capital letters that was issued without my consent.
My name is spelled Asher Edwards, first capital, all lowercase.
Edwards, first capital, all lowercase.
And this is the birth name given to me by my parents, protected by the Constitution of the United States.
The Constitution of the United States guarantees that I'm a free-born citizen, inherently owned by no entity, and this fictitious name statement in all capital letters is a declaration of property of my person.
Okay?
And so, therefore, because this fictitious name statement was issued to me without my consent, therefore it is illegal for you to process me through this courtroom, so you guys have to figure out something else to do with me.
Court will enter a not guilty plea on your behalf.
We'll show time is not waived.
Set this matter for trial setting conference.
We'll set this matter for pre-preliminary hearing within the statutory period.
And I would like to see the gun.
It said I had a gun.
I've never had a gun since I got out of jail.
We'll set this matter... We'll set this matter for pre-preliminary... There's no gun.
They're lying.
Do not speak while I am speaking, sir.
This matter is set for pre-preliminary hearing.
So, he has muted the man.
And also, the man is being filmed by basically what looks like a surveillance camera from above, and he's in an orange jumpsuit with handcuffs on.
And he's still talking about, like, that they can't legally have done any of the things they've done to him.
Make him change into the jumpsuit, put on the handcuffs.
I mean, yeah, I have to admire the tenacity of sovereign citizens, at the very least.
They keep insisting that their shit works, even when it fails them over and over again.
Love it.
What blows my mind about sovereign citizens is that you can see one in a situation where you would feel sympathy for pretty much anyone else in, but then you just hear them start this angry, smug tirade, and you're like, oh man, this is a fucked up, unjust system, but man, dude, you in particular, shut the fuck up.
This dude, like... So anyway, it is time to talk about the gold fringe on the flag.
In writing this section, an above-the-law article by Joe Patrice called The Stupid Pro Se Legal Theory Making Rounds was very helpful.
According to sovereign citizens, there are two types of criminal proceedings, common law trials and admiralty tribunals.
You can tell what type of proceedings are happening by the flag in the courtroom.
If the flag is exactly as described in the United States Flag Code, then the case is a case under common law.
And in the sovereign citizen world, only flesh and blood persons who have been victims of a crime of physical violence can prosecute violations of common law.
And therefore, it is not legal for entities like the people of the state of Illinois or the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to be parties to a common law criminal suit.
So in order to send someone to prison or impose a fine on them, the court has to force them into an admiralty tribunal where they can apply illegitimate statutory law.
And just, again, this is not how law works.
This is not real.
This is fake.
To do this, they must fly a gold fringed flag to symbolize naval warfare and place a bar between the judge and the defendant so that the courtroom can symbolically transform into the bridge of a ship.
This is so good.
I have not been served my grog.
I'm getting scurvy.
Therefore, the sovereign citizen must recognize the illicit proceeding and object to the gold fringe on the flag.
Otherwise, they consent to losing all of their rights.
Uh, excuse me, your honor.
Would you bring the flag behind you a little bit closer to the monitor?
I can't see.
I can't quite see.
Is there gold there?
Any gold fringe?
That's gold.
That is gold.
Release me immediately.
It's a symbolism, uh, will be there downfall kind of thing.
But I think that they can sort of unlock the secret codes of reality by looking at certain basically meaningless little decorative, you know, factors.
Yeah, this is like Michael in the office screaming, I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!
So where did all this stuff start from, apart from the minds of 10,000 rambling conmen?
We can find that answer with Posse Comitatus, a militant anti-government movement that was foisted onto the national scene by a motley group of bigots and tax doctors in the middle of the century.
Much of the information from this segment on Posse history is from the book Terrorists Next Door, The Militia Movement and the Radical Right by Daniel Levitas.
We first turn to the Posse's bedrocks, the tax protest and the Christian identity movements.
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