Dennis Prager Show - Your Husband's NOT a Pervert
Aired: 2026-04-29
Duration: 38:39


=== Who Makes You Feel Like a Freak (01:20) ===

[00:00:00]  On today's episode of Timeless Wisdom, why are we made to feel like freaks if we need sex?
[00:00:09]  I mean, hey.
[00:00:09]  Who's making you feel.
[00:00:11]  Wait, wait, wait, wait.
[00:00:11]  I have no clue.
[00:00:12]  That's how we feel love.
[00:00:14]  No, no, no.
[00:00:16]  There are three separate issues, but let me tell you who, God forbid, is making you feel like a freak?
[00:00:21]  Me?
[00:00:22]  My husband.
[00:00:23]  Oh, okay.
[00:00:24]  That's coming up on Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager.
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[00:01:11]  I'm old fashioned.
[00:01:12]  I like two sexes.
[00:01:14]  Yeah, and another thing.
[00:01:14]  All of a sudden, I don't like being married to what is known as a new woman.
[00:01:18]  I want a wife, not a competitor.
[00:01:19]  Competitor!
[00:01:20]  Competitor!

=== Addressing Suffering in Modern Couples (15:56) ===

[00:01:21]  Talk about a bit this crying in the morning thing, this depression.
[00:01:24]  You know, let's get that fixed.
[00:01:26]  That's what men think, isn't it?
[00:01:27]  What?
[00:01:28]  Unless you've got the answer, unless you can say, oh, I know this bloke in the Sixth Road who could fix that, and.
[00:01:34]  There's no point bothering.
[00:01:35]  How do you rate women so well?
[00:01:38]  I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.
[00:01:43]  I love him.
[00:01:44]  I love him.
[00:01:44]  And I don't care what you think.
[00:01:46]  I love him for the man he wants to be, and I love him for the man that he almost is.
[00:01:53]  What do people have rows about him?
[00:01:55]  Money, sex, sex, money.
[00:01:59]  He wants, she doesn't want.
[00:02:02]  She wants, he doesn't want?
[00:02:03]  Women have always been a big problem to me, Dr. Fosband.
[00:02:10]  Are you listening, Doctor?
[00:02:11]  Yes, yes, yes.
[00:02:12]  Go on, go on.
[00:02:19]  Hi, everybody.
[00:02:20]  Welcome to the Male Female Hour on The Dennis Prager Show.
[00:02:23]  Every week at this hour, I talk about men and women.
[00:02:28]  I call it the Male Female Hour.
[00:02:29]  I've explained that, and I won't now because I'm getting into a subject that is very delicate, as it often is on this topic.
[00:02:39]  What gives me the courage, and it takes some courage, to do this.
[00:02:43]  Is your reaction, frankly?
[00:02:46]  Your reactions have been so powerful.
[00:02:49]  I will read to you a letter from a woman, married 14 years.
[00:02:56]  And it is.
[00:03:00]  The reason for my hesitation is because I have to announce this is not.
[00:03:05]  This hour will not be for little kids.
[00:03:08]  I think it is your call on early teenage, mid teenage, and older, I think.
[00:03:16]  I think it could be useful.
[00:03:17]  I mean, kids are not living in submarines these days.
[00:03:21]  But I just need to tell you that if they're under teenage, I don't think that this is for them.
[00:03:32]  But it is for you if you have a little kid.
[00:03:35]  So either send the kid out of the room.
[00:03:38]  If you're driving, just drop the kid off somewhere.
[00:03:42]  Come back on the freeway later.
[00:03:46]  Send the kid to some mall shop.
[00:03:49]  Because I really want you to hear this.
[00:03:54]  All righty, listen to this letter here, and I won't even give her first name nor her husband's name, let alone even the city.
[00:04:02]  All right, but here is a letter that I received very recently.
[00:04:06]  Dear Mr. Prager, I have been married for 14 years to my husband, R.
[00:04:12]  Okay, and we have two young boys.
[00:04:17]  My husband is listening to your show on a regular basis, and he is quoting you quite often.
[00:04:26]  By the way, well, it doesn't matter.
[00:04:28]  I have a feeling that it's a European woman here, but I'm not certain about it.
[00:04:32]  Anyway, it doesn't matter really.
[00:04:33]  He has made many attempts for me to listen to your shows, but without success.
[00:04:39]  He recently became more creative and started downloading your podcasts, then putting them in my car CD player.
[00:04:49]  That, by the way, is worthy of its own topic.
[00:04:53]  The efforts that this man made to have his wife hear this show.
[00:04:59]  And it could go in both directions, by the way.
[00:05:01]  Often it's the wife wanting the husband to.
[00:05:04]  I am as convinced as one can be that I have a 50 50 male female audience.
[00:05:11]  But this man did not give up to his credit for, and you will see, to his benefit.
[00:05:18]  So, first thing, when I start my car, bam, the happy hour song came on, and here goes Dennis Prager singing along.
[00:05:27]  I thought of my husband and told myself, okay, honey, you put a smile on my face.
[00:05:31]  That's cute.
[00:05:33]  But I shut it off.
[00:05:36]  I am a bit stubborn, but so is my husband.
[00:05:41]  He then recorded for me the male hour.
[00:05:44]  Isn't that funny that she calls it the veil hour?
[00:05:46]  It's called the veil female hour, but that's the part she heard.
[00:05:52]  And this time I actually listened to you, Mr. Prager.
[00:05:56]  And when I heard these women calling and telling how their husbands were pursuing them and never could get enough of them, I was shocked.
[00:06:04]  And immediately realized that my husband was not a pervert obsessed with having relations with me.
[00:06:17]  I understood my husband and realized how much he, she capitalizes he, loves me and only me.
[00:06:25]  And I immediately felt bad.
[00:06:28]  Felt bad for neglecting my husband, felt bad for thinking that he was only lusting after me.
[00:06:35]  And I started telling myself.
[00:06:39]  How selfish I have been all these years, how devoted he is to me every day that goes by.
[00:06:45]  Every day he has been telling me he loves me, and how pretty I am, and how hot I am, and I always thought that he was saying that because he wanted something from me.
[00:06:56]  How much time have I wasted in my marriage?
[00:06:59]  But now I look at him, and I truly feel special.
[00:07:04]  I truly know he loves me, and only me, and I love him more, and only him.
[00:07:10]  I get it, Mr. Prager.
[00:07:11]  I get it.
[00:07:12]  And I thank you for opening my eyes to a truly wonderful, loving husband.
[00:07:21]  For this letter alone, I am beyond happy that I made the male female hour.
[00:07:30]  But when you multiply this by thousands, two things happen.
[00:07:37]  One, I realize how important it is to talk about these things, as difficult as it might be, and it is difficult.
[00:07:44]  The other thing that I realize is how many millions, millions are suffering needlessly in their marriages.
[00:07:54]  There are two types, I always say this, folks, there are two types of suffering.
[00:07:59]  There is that which exists, there is the built in suffering that is inevitable to life, and there is gratuitous suffering.
[00:08:08]  Suffering we create for no good reason.
[00:08:12]  There are millions of couples who have suffering.
[00:08:16]  And there are millions of couples who have gratuitous suffering.
[00:08:22]  There are so many aspects to this letter that I want to concentrate on and talk to you about on this edition of the Male Female Hour.
[00:08:33]  One is the notion my husband's a pervert.
[00:08:38]  My husband is oversexed, hypersexed, pervert, whatever it is that you might think.
[00:08:44]  The odds are, my friends, the odds are.
[00:08:48]  That your husband is in fact not a pervert.
[00:08:51]  Okay?
[00:08:53]  Just know that.
[00:08:54]  The odds are what he is is a male.
[00:08:58]  And if he's a male and he's not like you, that doesn't make him a pervert.
[00:09:02]  It makes him a male.
[00:09:05]  That's a.
[00:09:05]  Now, there are guys who are.
[00:09:08]  I don't know if the word pervert even.
[00:09:10]  I'm sure there are.
[00:09:12]  But although it's not the world's easiest term to define, one person's pervert is another person's adventurous lover.
[00:09:19]  So that's a very, very difficult term and not a very useful one, in my opinion.
[00:09:25]  Not a very useful one to use.
[00:09:27]  And calling your husband that may not, shall we say, lead to a warmer marriage.
[00:09:35]  Now, that's not to say that there are men who ask for things or something else that may be over the top.
[00:09:45]  I'm sure that's true.
[00:09:47]  But the average guy may seem like a pervert.
[00:09:53]  Uh, to the average woman when he is in fact not.
[00:09:56]  He's just not you.
[00:09:57]  It's, it's almost like the average kid, the average boy probably seems like a, like a, an incipient, uh, you know, mall shooter when all he's doing is walking around with a gun and the mother is horrified.
[00:10:09]  A toy gun, not a real gun.
[00:10:11]  The average mother is horrified.
[00:10:13]  Oh my God, my boy's walking around with his toy gun and he makes everything into a gun.
[00:10:17]  Is he gonna kill people?
[00:10:19]  No, he's not.
[00:10:19]  He's a boy.
[00:10:21]  Boys like to shoot guns.
[00:10:25]  One of the most important things is for each sex to know that they are not the other sex, but it's particularly important.
[00:10:31]  I think men are far more aware that women are not they and do not have to be them than women are vice versa.
[00:10:40]  We are not hairy females, and we shouldn't be made into it.
[00:10:45]  And we men should not allow you to make us into it.
[00:10:49]  That's another issue.
[00:10:50]  So, number one, the number one point of this letter.
[00:10:54]  And why it was so touching to me because now she realizes how much her husband loves her.
[00:11:00]  He wanted relations more than she did.
[00:11:04]  What a shock.
[00:11:05]  What a shock.
[00:11:06]  I mean, God, is this the only marriage that this happens to?
[00:11:12]  I mean, obviously it happens so often.
[00:11:14]  And she's just thinking, ah, this guy's the lust machine, and then so on.
[00:11:18]  Then she went, wait a minute, he wants me.
[00:11:21]  He wants me.
[00:11:24]  That's beautiful.
[00:11:25]  That's beautiful.
[00:11:26]  It's not sick, it's not perverted.
[00:11:29]  Now, does that mean that there can't be limits or should be limits?
[00:11:33]  Or we don't take both sexes into account?
[00:11:35]  1 8 Prager 776.
[00:11:37]  I'll tell you more reasons why this is such an important letter, and I'll take your calls.
[00:11:43]  This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this.
[00:11:49]  We live in a time where the moment you question the narrative, you're told to stop thinking and start complying.
[00:11:54]  That's why what Angel is doing matters.
[00:11:57]  With eye opening documentaries like Thank You, Dr. Fauci, and RFK Legacy, Angel is willing to explore the issues others avoid.
[00:12:05]  In a culture shaped by gatekeepers, Angel offers something rare.
[00:12:08]  A platform for truth seeking storytelling that isn't constrained by fear or conformity.
[00:12:13]  Go to angel.comslash Prager, join the Angel Guild, and watch these films today.
[00:12:21]  Now, back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom.
[00:12:25]  Hi, everybody.
[00:12:26]  You're listening to the Dennis Prager Show, the male female hour.
[00:12:29]  I didn't give you the number 18 Prager 776.
[00:12:31]  I fully acknowledge that the intent of this hour is to help the sexes understand each other and ideally help your marriages.
[00:12:41]  I can't do that, and nobody can do that if we don't address real issues between men and women.
[00:12:48]  Sex is one of them.
[00:12:49]  This is not an hour for your kids under teenage years.
[00:12:53]  I announced that at the outset, and I'm reminding you in case you didn't hear it then.
[00:12:58]  Or, well, actually, I can't remind you if you didn't hear it then.
[00:13:04]  I see I'm very precise, so much so I drive myself nuts sometimes.
[00:13:08]  I am telling you for the first time if you didn't hear it then.
[00:13:11]  I'm reminding you if you did hear it then and didn't act on it.
[00:13:14]  Oh, man.
[00:13:17]  I have a number of letters with the exact same point.
[00:13:22]  I read to you one.
[00:13:23]  I'll read to you just an excerpt from this one.
[00:13:27]  Let's see here.
[00:13:28]  And appreciate the difference between.
[00:13:30]  What a difference.
[00:13:30]  You have relieved my mind thinking my husband was a pervert all those early years of my marriage.
[00:13:35]  I love him more.
[00:13:37]  Thanks.
[00:13:38]  And this is another wife.
[00:13:41]  Do you think your husband's a pervert?
[00:13:42]  Now, here's the problem with doing this on the radio.
[00:13:45]  I can't.
[00:13:46]  You can't spell out specific desires that he might have because it is still public radio.
[00:13:54]  I don't mean, you know, public as an NPR, but it is still public radio and it is still family radio, nevertheless.
[00:14:03]  But I do want you to address this issue in your mind or address it with me.
[00:14:08]  A man is a man and not a woman, and this letter was so powerful to me, the one that I had originally read to you, and how bad she now feels thinking this way about him.
[00:14:22]  Let's take some calls here, and we begin with Los Angeles and Linda.
[00:14:27]  Linda, Dennis Prager, thank you for calling.
[00:14:30]  Good morning, Dennis.
[00:14:31]  Hi.
[00:14:33]  I just want to say that I hope a lot of women don't make the same mistake I did.
[00:14:41]  I was married for 30 years, and then I lost my husband to cancer.
[00:14:46]  And the last few years, I didn't give in to him.
[00:14:52]  I know now, after listening to you and Dr. Laura, because she says the same thing.
[00:14:58]  That's right.
[00:14:59]  That they love us.
[00:15:01]  Mm hmm.
[00:15:02]  And they're so simple.
[00:15:05]  And I'm so sad.
[00:15:09]  Go on.
[00:15:11]  Through your tears, I'm keeping you on.
[00:15:13]  Because your message is so important.
[00:15:17]  He was a wonderful man.
[00:15:21]  And he wasn't a pervert at all, he was gentle and kind.
[00:15:28]  And I was selfish.
[00:15:34]  So please, ladies, let them love you and love them back.
[00:15:39]  God bless you.
[00:15:40]  You see, I do want you to know this.
[00:15:44]  In some way, what you can't do now for him, you are doing for others, and that is so important.
[00:15:54]  You're turning a mistake, and it was a mistake.
[00:15:59]  You didn't have ill intent.
[00:16:01]  But, but, but you're turning into a mistake into a blessing for others.
[00:16:12]  I think it was one of the very first male female hours when I covered the subject that for the vast majority of men, no matter how much you are kind and loving and what a wonderful wife and mom and whatever else you are, if you don't give him sex, he doesn't know you love him.
[00:16:40]  You can call it simplistic, you can call it.
[00:16:44]  Animalistic, you can call it male, you can call it anything you want.
[00:16:50]  It's either true or not true.
[00:16:52]  You can add your editorial comments all you like in your mind or with your girlfriends.
[00:17:00]  The question is not to editorialize on what I just said, it's to confront whether or not it is true.
[00:17:08]  That is the single biggest way he knows you love him.
[00:17:12]  You have ways in which he can show he loves you.

=== The Single Biggest Way He Knows Love (09:29) ===

[00:17:18]  And that's not one of them by and large, as it happens.
[00:17:22]  It may be on the list, but it's not top.
[00:17:25]  It's not on the top of the list for the vast majority of women.
[00:17:28]  For some women, it is.
[00:17:29]  I can only talk in broad generalities.
[00:17:32]  I can't talk about every human being under the sun.
[00:17:39]  And these letters, and the call you just heard, and I am sure the marriages that are lost because of this.
[00:17:51]  Is this just what I called the gratuitous pain of life?
[00:18:01]  And let's go to National Park, New Jersey, and John.
[00:18:06]  The phone number here is 18 Prager 776.
[00:18:09]  Hello, John.
[00:18:10]  Dennis Prager.
[00:18:11]  Hi, Dennis.
[00:18:11]  Thanks for taking my call.
[00:18:12]  Thank you.
[00:18:14]  I was listening to the letter that the woman wrote to you, and it really sounded good.
[00:18:20]  When I was a boy, when I was coming of age, my dad was not around.
[00:18:25]  So my mom gave me the father and son talk.
[00:18:29]  And I think it was an advantage for me because I got it from a woman's point of view.
[00:18:34]  I remember her saying that there were times when her and my dad would have sex and afterwards he would roll over and go to sleep.
[00:18:42]  And ever since then, that's always stayed in my mind that one of my goals when I'm with a woman is to please her.
[00:18:51]  A lot of women have commented on that.
[00:18:54]  One in particular said that she liked the way that I kept kissing and touching her even after I was done.
[00:19:01]  And I said to her, Well, some men like to roll over and go to sleep.
[00:19:05]  And she said, Yeah, like my ex husband.
[00:19:07]  Well, by the way, that's a very, very valid point.
[00:19:11]  Very, very valid.
[00:19:13]  Men, this is not exactly asking you to swim the English Channel to continue to embrace and speak lovingly and.
[00:19:24]  For God's sake, stay awake.
[00:19:28]  I don't think that that is too great a demand on you guys.
[00:19:34]  Once your wife has been that giving, even though she's not in the mood, and what did they assess recently?
[00:19:41]  That a woman is in the mood, what, eight hours a month or something?
[00:19:45]  Just absolutely spontaneously aching for relations?
[00:19:50]  I mean, depending on age, obviously, some, you know, a great deal of time, obviously.
[00:19:55]  But we're talking in the broad spectrum of men and women.
[00:20:00]  So, yes, that would be a great example of how you reciprocate for what is meaningful to her.
[00:20:06]  The key in life and in marriage is you do for the other what the other considers important when possible, obviously.
[00:20:18]  And mood can't be the issue.
[00:20:22]  I know no woman who says, I'm not in the mood to get up, the baby is crying.
[00:20:28]  What if your husband is crying?
[00:20:30]  This is the Dennis Prager Show.
[00:20:33]  This episode of Timeless Wisdom will continue right after this.
[00:20:39]  We live in a time where the moment you question the narrative, you're told to stop thinking and start complying.
[00:20:44]  That's why what Angel is doing matters.
[00:20:47]  With eye opening documentaries like Thank You, Dr. Fauci, and RFK Legacy, Angel is willing to explore the issues others avoid.
[00:20:55]  In a culture shaped by gatekeepers, Angel offers something rare a platform for truth seeking storytelling that isn't constrained by Fear or conformity.
[00:21:03]  Go to angel.comslash Prager, join the Angel Guild, and watch these films today.
[00:21:11]  Now, back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom.
[00:21:15]  Hi, everybody.
[00:21:16]  This is the male female hour on the Dennis Prager Show.
[00:21:19]  I read to you, and I'll reread a bit of it here.
[00:21:24]  A letter, and I have two letters using the exact same word women who thought their husbands were perverts because of the frequency that they would want or whatever.
[00:21:36]  And the odds are, folks, that you're not married to a pervert.
[00:21:40]  Okay, the odds are.
[00:21:42]  And you're married to a male.
[00:21:50]  I've been married to my husband 14 years, two young sons, and she explained how he has been working to get her to listen to the show.
[00:21:59]  He would even put it on so that when she turned on a podcast, to turn on her car CD player, up I would come.
[00:22:10]  Anyway, she finally started listening and she said, Let's see.
[00:22:17]  I actually listened to you, and when I heard these women calling and telling you how their husbands were pursuing them and could never get enough of them, I was shocked and immediately realized that my husband was not a pervert obsessed with having sex with me.
[00:22:32]  I understood my husband and realized how much he loves me and only me.
[00:22:36]  I immediately felt bad, felt bad for neglecting my husband, felt bad for thinking he was only lusting after me.
[00:22:44]  And by the way, I hope that your husbands do, my dear female listeners.
[00:22:50]  And I started telling myself how selfish I have been all these years, how devoted he is to me every day that goes by, and that he's not a pervert and so on.
[00:23:03]  Likewise, another letter that I read to you.
[00:23:08]  You have relieved my mind thinking my husband was a pervert all those early years of marriage.
[00:23:12]  I love him more.
[00:23:12]  Then you heard this woman who just called now.
[00:23:17]  In tears, her husband died a few years ago, and she neglected him in that arena for some years and was just in tears of guilt.
[00:23:28]  You know, he died of cancer.
[00:23:30]  There's nothing that can be done.
[00:23:32]  My heart goes out to her, goes out to him for that time.
[00:23:37]  Let's go to some more of your calls.
[00:23:39]  By the way, I think all of you know this, but for those of you who might be brand new to the show, I'm not taking sides.
[00:23:47]  My only side is that you have a better marriage.
[00:23:50]  That's all.
[00:23:51]  That's the side I care about.
[00:23:54]  But that may involve understanding him better.
[00:23:59]  And that's why I'm mentioning these things when I do.
[00:24:02]  All righty, Jennifer in Manhattan Beach, California.
[00:24:05]  Jennifer, Dennis Prager, thanks for calling.
[00:24:07]  Hi, thanks for taking my call.
[00:24:09]  I'm calling because you are right that for men, sex is a way of saying, I love you.
[00:24:17]  And without it.
[00:24:17]  No, ironically, it isn't.
[00:24:19]  Okay.
[00:24:19]  No, no, no.
[00:24:20]  Sex is a way of them being told by you you love them.
[00:24:24]  That's what I meant.
[00:24:25]  I'm sorry.
[00:24:25]  Okay, no, but it's an important distinction.
[00:24:27]  Yes, right.
[00:24:28]  Okay.
[00:24:29]  So, you know, we can say it to him all we want.
[00:24:30]  It won't work.
[00:24:31]  The only problem is several years ago, I started realizing that, okay, if I don't feel like it, so what?
[00:24:37]  And I love him.
[00:24:37]  Right, okay.
[00:24:38]  He's a happier camper.
[00:24:39]  It's great in that respect, but outside of sex now, he's almost forgotten I'm a woman.
[00:24:44]  It's like I'm a woman, I'm like a pal that goes to bed.
[00:24:49]  And, all right, explain that even further.
[00:24:53]  Well, for example, I mean, Women like to know that we're being thought about, that they're taking the trouble to do something that would please us.
[00:25:04]  I mean, I don't even remember the last time that he grabbed me and gave me a hug or, I don't know, took me out to dinner of his own volition.
[00:25:12]  Have you told him this?
[00:25:14]  Yeah, and he says that he doesn't need to.
[00:25:16]  He doesn't need to?
[00:25:18]  Well, wait.
[00:25:19]  See, here's the deal, and I would like him to be told this, and I'd be happy to tell him this.
[00:25:24]  If you feel you don't need to do what she wants, Then she'll feel she doesn't need to do what you want.
[00:25:29]  Yeah, and that's about where I've arrived.
[00:25:31]  Well, I'll, I'll tell him.
[00:25:33]  No, I think you should play this for him.
[00:25:35]  Okay.
[00:25:35]  What kind of nonsense is that?
[00:25:37]  I don't know.
[00:25:39]  I, I, I, it doesn't, it doesn't make any sense.
[00:25:41]  He doesn't need to?
[00:25:43]  Well, then you, well, you don't, you, you don't need to have sex that often.
[00:25:47]  I mean, if, if one wants to play the game of I don't need to, you, I, I mean, he may not need to do every, I don't know, your, your, your demands from what you listed to me, and I'd love to hear his side, obviously.
[00:25:59]  Always in any of these cases, but what you listed do not sound like particularly difficult demands that you're making on him.
[00:26:09]  No.
[00:26:10]  Hug you periodically?
[00:26:11]  Does he call you from work?
[00:26:13]  No.
[00:26:14]  Guys, call your wives from work every day.
[00:26:19]  Even if you're playing poker at the same time, just say hello.
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[00:27:05]  Now, back to more of Dennis Prager's Timeless Wisdom.
[00:27:10]  Yes, indeed.
[00:27:11]  Dennis Prager here.
[00:27:11]  Hi, everybody.
[00:27:12]  I'm Jennifer, my last caller.
[00:27:15]  I would love to talk to your husband.
[00:27:20]  I would really like that.
[00:27:24]  I would have, of course, if he never hears my show, I don't know what clout I would have, but nevertheless.
[00:27:32]  I would like to have.
[00:27:33]  1 8 Prager 776.
[00:27:34]  1 8 P R A G E R 776.
[00:27:39]  Very important that people hear from you on this, as difficult as it might be.
[00:27:43]  And I still appreciate the first woman caller who, in tears, spoke about how she had neglected her husband in this arena.
[00:27:55]  She's 60 now, so during their 50s, and he died of cancer.
[00:28:02]  But she did a service.
[00:28:03]  Her tears, I want to thank you again.
[00:28:05]  It's a hard call, but it's important.
[00:28:09]  Your letters and your calls give the points that I make credibility.
[00:28:14]  And if you don't agree with me, that's fine too.
[00:28:15]  I think they all.
[00:28:16]  Those two give the points of credibility because they'll respond.
[00:28:20]  877 243 7776 is the number.
[00:28:24]  877 243 7776.
[00:28:28]  I read to you two letters where women use the same word.
[00:28:32]  I used to think my husband was a pervert, and I realized he's just a guy, he's the male, and I love him now all the more, and we have a better marriage, and so on.
[00:28:45]  This notion of your husband being a pervert.
[00:28:50]  And, you know, I'll even add it to another area, which is extremely controversial because of its emotionality, and I understand that, but I want to help you.
[00:28:59]  It's the only reason.
[00:29:01]  There are many reasons to oppose the pornification of this society.
[00:29:06]  It's been a disaster.
[00:29:08]  There's no question.
[00:29:09]  It's been particularly terrible for kids.
[00:29:12]  But if your husband has looked at pictures, it does not make him a pervert.
[00:29:17]  That doesn't mean that it's a good thing.
[00:29:20]  That's a separate issue.
[00:29:23]  And for religious people in particular, there are a whole host of issues.
[00:29:29]  But he's not a pervert.
[00:29:31]  And it just makes things worse if you walk around calling him that.
[00:29:36]  He may have real issues.
[00:29:37]  That's a separate issue.
[00:29:41]  But the letters weren't even written about that.
[00:29:46]  The letters were written about the frequency that he wanted.
[00:29:49]  Oh, he must be a pervert.
[00:29:50]  Or he just lusts after me.
[00:29:52]  You should thank God if he lusts after you.
[00:29:56]  Now, the last caller claims that's all he does, and he doesn't show affection in ways that are meaningful to her as a woman.
[00:30:04]  That's an issue.
[00:30:06]  That is an issue.
[00:30:10]  All right, let's go to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, and Kathy.
[00:30:13]  Hello, Kathy.
[00:30:14]  Dennis Prager.
[00:30:16]  Hi, Dennis.
[00:30:17]  How are you?
[00:30:17]  I'm well.
[00:30:18]  Thank you.
[00:30:19]  I've been a long time listener.
[00:30:20]  This is my first time calling, and I'm calling because I am so worked up about.
[00:30:25]  The subject matter today, and I just want to let you know that you are doing women a grave, um, you're not doing us any favors by stressing how much men need sex and acting like it's not really as important to us as it is to them.
[00:30:44]  There are so many women who need sex just as much, if not more, than men, and why are we made to feel like freaks if If we need sex, I mean, hey.
[00:30:59]  Who's making you feel.
[00:31:00]  Wait, wait, wait, wait.
[00:31:01]  I do.
[00:31:02]  That's how we feel love.
[00:31:03]  No, no, no.
[00:31:05]  There are three separate issues, but let me take.
[00:31:07]  Who, God forbid, is making you feel like a freak?
[00:31:10]  Me?
[00:31:11]  My husband.
[00:31:13]  Oh, okay.
[00:31:15]  All right.
[00:31:15]  He doesn't need it.
[00:31:16]  He doesn't care.
[00:31:17]  I could go for seven months without it.
[00:31:18]  It doesn't matter.
[00:31:19]  Fine.
[00:31:20]  I think that.
[00:31:21]  It's terrible.
[00:31:22]  That's just an excuse.
[00:31:24]  No, it's terrible.
[00:31:25]  It's a terrible problem.
[00:31:27]  My heart breaks for you.
[00:31:28]  What?
[00:31:30]  As I said about at least twice today, and always say, I'm generalizing because, in general, the problem works in that direction.
[00:31:39]  That what you have exists, I know for a fact, and my heart breaks for you.
[00:31:45]  In general, it's the problem is the other way around.
[00:31:51]  Yes, I'm sure, because every, I'm sure on every level, including all that I have read, including all the people who have written to me, including all the couples who have written, but see, it doesn't matter.
[00:32:04]  See, for Kathy's marriage, it's irrelevant that it's a minority of couples' issue.
[00:32:12]  It's still, it's still a huge issue.
[00:32:14]  It's like saying, Kathy, if I say seatbelts save lives, and we know for a fact, we do know for a fact, that there were people who were killed because they wore a seatbelt.
[00:32:23]  Because the car went on fire, they couldn't get the clicker on, and they burned to death.
[00:32:28]  So for that person, the fact that seatbelts tend to save lives was utterly irrelevant.
[00:32:32]  For that person, the seatbelt killed them.
[00:32:35]  The fact that for most couples where there is a sexual issue, it's that he wants more than she does, is a fact, but that doesn't help The many couples wherein they have your issue.
[00:32:50]  And I get my 100% sympathy as much as a man does.
[00:32:55]  But it doesn't negate the fact that most of the time the problem is in the other direction.
[00:33:01]  You need counseling.
[00:33:03]  He needs to acknowledge it.
[00:33:04]  But it's unfortunate, though.
[00:33:07]  It's harder to solve your problem because when the woman is not in the mood, she could still just be there, as it were.
[00:33:14]  But a man has to react.
[00:33:17]  And so it's harder.
[00:33:19]  And when he feels pressure, it's even harder.
[00:33:22]  So it's a terrible quicksand in a relationship when it is the man who has the lesser drive for the woman.
[00:33:31]  But it is something you go to a good therapist, you go to a sex therapist, you find out.
[00:33:37]  But I mean, he can't give you this line.
[00:33:39]  I mean, may I ask the frequency?
[00:33:44]  I can tell you the last time we were together was May 10th.
[00:33:50]  I'm 45 years old.
[00:33:51]  My husband's only two years older than me, so I don't think we're getting to that age.
[00:33:55]  No, no, no.
[00:33:57]  Anyway, there is no age cut off, so to speak.
[00:34:01]  And I agree with you about you're young, relatively young.
[00:34:09]  Well, I would love to speak to him.
[00:34:11]  Does he ever listen to me?
[00:34:12]  He's listening right now.
[00:34:14]  Oh, then why doesn't he call in?
[00:34:16]  I'll take him as my next call.
[00:34:17]  We'll be back in a moment.
[00:34:20]  Hi, everybody.
[00:34:21]  Dennis Prager here.
[00:34:22]  And in the time remaining, let me get a few words in with Kathy's husband.
[00:34:28]  Hi, Paul Dennis Prager here.
[00:34:31]  Hi, how are you doing?
[00:34:32]  Hi, okay.
[00:34:33]  I don't want to put you on the spot, and I'm not here at all to, in any way, be your accuser or anything like that.
[00:34:39]  I just, I know you heard the call I had with your wife.
[00:34:43]  Yes.
[00:34:43]  And would you like to just make any comments?
[00:34:48]  I just, Don't need it as much as she does.
[00:34:51]  I run a business and I know I have a lot on my mind, and it's really a pressure for her, and she needs to have it.
[00:35:01]  But I feel that with everything, with responsibilities I have, and that we've been married over 25 years, it's not that I don't love her, it's just that I take things, I guess, before her, and I probably really shouldn't, but I do.
[00:35:17]  What things do you take before her?
[00:35:19]  Like the business and working, trying to make sure I can support her.
[00:35:24]  My daughter's in college in California.
[00:35:27]  Just different things like that just seem to be more, I guess, important than it is to her.
[00:35:36]  Ideally, for you, what would be, generally speaking, the frequency that you would make love?
[00:35:45]  Now?
[00:35:45]  Yeah, once in two months, once twice a year, every month.
[00:35:51]  Probably once or twice a month, maybe.
[00:35:55]  Okay, and what was the frequency five years ago?
[00:36:01]  Probably a lot more, and it just gradually dropped to what it is now.
[00:36:08]  Okay, knowing how important it is to her.
[00:36:12]  Which is somewhat of a credit to you because, you know, when a guy is found desirable by a woman, we feel great.
[00:36:21]  Is there anything you think you could do knowing that it's important?
[00:36:25]  Let's say we're up to, let's say, once every 10 days.
[00:36:31]  Is that handleable?
[00:36:32]  Yes.
[00:36:33]  Yes.
[00:36:34]  Why don't you try for that now?
[00:36:37]  All right.
[00:36:37]  Okay.
[00:36:39]  And by the way, if there are things that she could do that you feel a little frustrated, Funny about saying, you know, maybe wear something very sexy, you know, in the bedroom or something, you should let her know.
[00:36:50]  25 years is a long time, but, you know, guys have fantasies.
[00:36:54]  Why don't you tell her some of your fantasies?
[00:36:58]  All right.
[00:36:59]  Okay?
[00:36:59]  Yes.
[00:37:00]  Okay.
[00:37:01]  Thank you so much for sharing that.
[00:37:04]  I know it's not easy.
[00:37:09]  I tell you folks, I divide pain between the necessary and the gratuitous.
[00:37:14]  And we should try to minimize the unnecessary pain.
[00:37:18]  So, Kathy, let me hear from you in an email in a couple of months.
[00:37:23]  And upping that frequency to that might really be a help.
[00:37:28]  Good luck.
[00:37:29]  Thanks for calling.
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