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Faith, Family, and Flag: Memoirs
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| So I have a veteran, very high-ranking veteran, I might add, a major general, James Mukoyama, U.S. Army retired. | |
| And he wrote a book. | |
| When did it come out, General? | |
| Actually, the official release is this week. | |
| Oh, cool. | |
| And there's a great picture of him serving in Vietnam as a young man. | |
| And the book is Faith, Family, and Flag. | |
| Is it up at dennisprager.com? | |
| Well done. | |
| Faith, Family, and Flag. | |
| Listen to the subtitle, Memoirs of an Unlikely American Samurai Crusader. | |
| We'll find out why unlikely is appropriate. | |
| Jocko Willink, who does Prager U video for us, wrote the forward. | |
| It's one of the most popular videos, by the way. | |
| Major General James Mukayama. | |
| So, General, thank you. | |
| You have a beautiful page here, largely about me, and I can't tell you how moved I am by that fact. | |
| You flew in from Chicago just to be here. | |
| Is that right? | |
| That's correct. | |
| I was given the option of doing this over the internet, and I said, no way. | |
| If my wife and I get a chance to be with Dennis and Alan, we're there. | |
| Are you sure about Alan? | |
| Oh, absolutely. | |
| You know, I'm a big Prager U guy, so I've seen him on the book of the month with Michael. | |
| And, you know, he did Tale of Two Cities, and he did The Intellectuals. | |
| And so, and, of course, I've seen you, too, because you did the first one. | |
| Boy, you really know. | |
| No, we're very moved by that, Alan and I, just so you'll know. | |
| And thank you for coming. | |
| And Mrs. Mukayama, thank you for coming as well. | |
| So if I would have spoken to you when you were 15 years old and said, you know, you'll be a major general in the U.S. Army, would you have said, that sounds great, or what are you talking about? | |
| No, I would have said probably not a large chance. | |
| At that point, actually, when I joined the Army, there had never been an Asian American admiral or general in the Armed Forces. | |
| I wasn't the first. | |
| I was like the third or fourth, but I was the first to command an Army division in the history of the Army. | |
| And where was that? | |
| That was the 70th Infantry Division training out of Livonia, Michigan. | |
| My career, I had five years of active duty, two combat tours, one on the DMZ in Korea, one in Vietnam. | |
| And I was a regular Army airborne guy. | |
| I was what they called the lifer. | |
| And when I came back from Vietnam, I said, you know, I don't want to do this 24-7. | |
| So I resigned my regular Army commission and I joined the Army Reserves because I was committed to serve 20 years, period. | |
| And so I actually served 32 years. | |
| But my division, the 70th, was an Army Reserve Division that was mobilized for Desert Storm. | |
| So it's like I died and went to heaven. | |
| I mean, I took my division of Fort Benning, Georgia, and we took over the training of the infantry soldiers at Fort Benning. | |
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My Mother's Wisdom
00:04:50
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| So I have no idea what the answer will be. | |
| So you were the first Asian American to command a combat unit. | |
| Is that correct? | |
| No, not combat. | |
| It was an Army division here in the state. | |
| Right, no, I know. | |
| Right, fair enough. | |
| So they went to combat, whether they went with you or not. | |
| Okay, it doesn't matter. | |
| What I want to ask you is, America is accused of being xenophobic and racist. | |
| Did you experience that much in the Army? | |
| Because you're a first. | |
| No, as a matter of fact, through my Army career, I actually caught myself forgetting the race of our soldiers. | |
| It didn't make any difference to me whether they were white, black. | |
| And it didn't make any difference to them about you. | |
| Right, right. | |
| Everybody to me was olive green. | |
| I love that. | |
| I love that. | |
| My dad, may he rest in peace, was an officer on a transport ship in World War II in the Pacific for two and a half years, I believe. | |
| And he was a committed Jew. | |
| He would have Sabbath services on Friday night for Jews who were on board. | |
| So everybody knew he was a Jew. | |
| And the captain of the ship, my father told the story, and it meant so much to me as a child, means a lot to me now. | |
| And the captain basically told everyone on board: if he ever hears an anti-Semitic word, that guy is doomed. | |
| And my father said, two and a half years, his being a Jew was not an issue. | |
| That's what you're saying. | |
| Yes. | |
| Whatever the color of the Navy, that was the only color that mattered. | |
| See, that's why it is so awful charging Americans with systemic racism and xenophobia. | |
| It's probably the least racist, least xenophobic country in the modern world. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| And I reflect on that in my book because my mother, bless her soul, grew up during the Depression. | |
| Her family had lived in Montana, in Nebraska, in Wisconsin, in Oklahoma, in California, until she married my dad and she moved up to Chicago. | |
| And she was interviewed by a University of San Francisco researcher about the Nisei, the second generation Japanese Americans. | |
| And it was like a two-hour interview. | |
| And this woman kept the researcher kept on asking my mom, well, when did you experience racism? | |
| Oh, God. | |
| And you know what my mother said? | |
| She said, I didn't. | |
| And this woman was just, you know, she kept on probing. | |
| And in fact, during World War II, we were in Chicago. | |
| And my family, my parents had assimilated into our community. | |
| We didn't have a Japan town, so to speak, right? | |
| And our neighbors, not realizing that Japanese could not become naturalized citizens of the United States until 1952, they sent a telegram to our congressman vouching for the loyalty of my father as an American citizen. | |
| And that's so we did not experience that. | |
| The interview of your mother, that's who you're talking about. | |
| So I have you, you'll love this. | |
| As loyal a listener as you might be, I don't know if you would remember. | |
| I played this once on my show. | |
| A black in Poland, born in Poland, and parents African, and he's a championship boxer in Poland. | |
| And the interviewer on Polish television kept asking him, So you experience a lot of racism here in Poland, don't you? | |
| And the guy kept saying, No. | |
| And she was so annoyed with him. | |
| So your mother's story is exactly the same thing. | |
| You're not experiencing all this anti-Asian, anti-Japanese racism in America. | |
| We'll be back in a moment. | |