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Timeless Wisdom - Reclaiming America: Dennis Prager with Hugh Hewitt

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	Welcome to Timeless Wisdom with Dennis Prager.
	Here, thousands of hours of Dennis's lectures, courses, and classic radio programs.
	And to purchase Dennis Prager's Rational Bibles.
	go to DennisPrager.com.
	Music So without further ado, Hugh Hewitt and Dennis Prager.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Did they have enough coach for us?
	This is wonderful.
	Hey, Luke.
	Thank you very much.
	Even my wife stood.
	Good evening, gentlemen.
	That's big.
	Well, first of all, I would just like to open the floor to some opening comments.
	First, uh Dennis, anything you want to open the program with tonight?
	Hi.
	Moving on then.
	Hugh, anything you'd like to say?
	He's good.
	He's good.
	He has Hugh has the opening comment.
	We rehearse this in advance.
	We we practiced last week in Minnesota together.
	We do not ever practice.
	As many of you know.
	Why do you have an iPad, whatever that's called in front of you now?
	You're going to read notes like the president as we go forward.
	Oh, you're going to take notes?
	Dennis and I have have lectured many places around the world.
	And it's always a unique and interesting experience to be anywhere with Dennis Prager.
	Um I I, for example, I have lectured at Prince Edward's Island.
	Have you ever lectured on Prince Edwards Island?
	That is very fine.
	Did you ever be there?
	Have you ever been there?
	Have you ever lectured there?
	No.
	Now I go places Dennis doesn't get to.
	And as a result, I bring a little bit more worldly experience to these events than Dennis does.
	I just want you to know what you're doing.
	I just want you to know that one minute before walking in, said, Have you been to all of the Canadian provinces?
	I said, Yeah, everyone but one.
	He said, Which one?
	I said, Prince Edward Island.
	And now we now we have to.
	That's how this that's how this came about.
	But we're videotaping this, and I'll have it cut so that it shows that Dennis has not been somewhere.
	I love going places with Dennis, but here's the secret to this.
	Yeah.
	You have to get Dennis on to track early.
	Lou, give up trying to control him.
	He is a monster truck.
	If you've ever seen the monster trucks events that they go out and they they climb over everything.
	It does not matter what you ask.
	It does not matter what you put in front of him, the impediment.
	When he begins to orate, it is a force majeure.
	And there is nothing like it.
	So I'm going to start early.
	I'm going to give you a treat.
	And Lou, relax, because you're going to need five minutes.
	When Dennis, who has been on broadcast in Los Angeles for twenty years.
	Twenty-eight.
	Twenty-eight years.
	Except for Prince Edward's Island or wherever.
	Prince Edward.
	Yeah.
	We had a roast for him.
	And we had a roast from at the Nixon Library.
	And it was one of the one of the fun nights of my career.
	I had so much fun at this thing.
	But I heard a story that I've since put him on the spot once or twice.
	It's a great way to start before we go to politics and heavy things.
	And it's Dennis at Madison Square Garden.
	And I would like, for the benefit of the YouTube video audience that we are recording tonight, if you would just please begin, Dennis, by telling people about the time you took to the court at Madison Square Garden.
	All right, let me explain.
	I did not know that Hugh would put me on the spot.
	First of all, how many of you have heard it?
	Okay, so only about a dozen.
	So forgive me, you forgive me.
	He likes embarrassing me, Hugh.
	It's a joy in his life, and I love bringing joy to people's lives.
	After I'm the guy who does the happiness hours, so why would I not want Hugh to have happiness?
	Happiness for Hugh is embarrassing me in his in front of as many people as possible.
	If there are only a dozen people here, he wouldn't even have me do this.
	But this what I am about to tell you uh is the truth.
	That's the point.
	Every I I want you to know and I'll be serious for just one moment here.
	I took a vow in the very beginning.
	You'll find this interesting.
	I took a vow and I began broadcasting because I realized when I first began broadcasting, it's uh very tempting to embellish stories.
	Just to add a little here and subtract a little there.
	It's essentially true, but not exactly true.
	And I made a vow to myself, and if you will, to God, that to the best of my ability, I will never embellish a story.
	Because your credibility is on the line because after a while people would know.
	It's it's somewhat true, but Prager exaggerates.
	So I what I'm about to tell you is entirely true to the best of my ability to recollect.
	And since I began telling the story within a week of it happening, uh it is true.
	In my in my sophomore year in high school, I was at a Jewish high school in uh in Brooklyn, New York, a religious Jewish high school.
	And there were so many of them in New York that they actually have their own basketball league.
	Now, let me say, I don't think that this is exactly uh a bad thing to say about my fellow Jews.
	Uh in the area of excellence, sports is not the first thing that comes to your mind when you think of Jews.
	Wow, what bowlers.
	You just, you know.
	Schwartz bowled a perfect game again.
	You you don't, you don't it just right?
	I mean, let's be honest, it's even a joke in Jewish life.
	What are some of the shortest books ever written?
	Italian war heroes, Jewish sports figures, and so on.
	So, okay.
	So you have to understand to excel in the Yeshiva League is not to excel.
	All right.
	But we had a whole league of yeshivas, these are religious Jewish schools.
	Anyway, the guys who grab the guys, the seniors of the previous year came in first or second, and the first two teams get a game before a Knicks game at Madison Square Garden.
	It's a deal with the yeshiva league.
	That your two best teams of the previous year play before a Knicks game.
	Unfortunately, the entire uh uh starting team graduated.
	So we were not only not good, we were the worst.
	And playing in Madison Square Garden.
	And I know we were the worst.
	I don't know if you heard this, but I tell you about the coach, what he said, what how I made the team.
	Let me tell you, I did not, I don't like basketball.
	I don't like it.
	But there were no other teams in the Yeshi.
	What did he have?
	A hockey team, all right?
	I mean, you know, there were 110 kids in my class.
	Well, you know, lucky we could get, you know, a quorum for a prayer service.
	So anyway, the only team we had in sports, there's no football to yeshiva football team.
	Anyway, it's too dangerous.
	The Jewish mothers wouldn't allow it.
	So uh we had basketball, and I hate basketball.
	I just do.
	I don't, I don't, I'm okay to watch, but I don't like playing it.
	But I had one great asset, unfortunately.
	I was the tallest Jew in New York City.
	Even in high school.
	Um I was 6'4 in high school.
	Jews, you know, Jewish basketball teams is like Japanese basketball teams, you know, it's just the way it is.
	And so this is what happened at the last tryout.
	I was praying I wouldn't make the team.
	My father really wanted me to get on the team and so on.
	And finally, the coach, who is a despicable human being when I think of it, announces the following.
	Uh, boys, we've really uh hit the bottom of the barrel.
	This scraped the bottom of the barrel this year.
	Prager has made the team.
	I'll never forget that as long as I live.
	That's harsh.
	Now, it is harsh, but you know what?
	I want to tell you, and I my my wife knows this is true.
	You want to know my reaction?
	My reaction was this man is is a true jackass.
	And he's entirely right.
	I mean it at the time, Hugh, even then, I thought the guy's right.
	You did scrape the bottom of the barrel.
	I'm only on the team because I'm not crippled and tall.
	This was the criteria.
	Okay.
	So, as a joke, I pick take number 13.
	I know I'm not going to play in many games, but I'm on the team.
	We're at Madison Square Garden.
	The team is losing by so many points that I am uh I am certain I'll I'll I just won't be put in.
	But unfortunately, it was so many points that with 58 seconds left, with there being no mathematical possibility we could come close to winning, I'm told to go in.
	Now you have to understand what I had been doing on the bench the whole game.
	I wasn't watching much of the game.
	I was announcing it for my friend Isaac Nack Bar, known as Snack Bar.
	So I'm I'm announcing the game, and Snack Bar is laughing himself silly, and I'm laughing myself.
	This is what I did to get the while the time away.
	Finally, to my horror, Prager, you're going in.
	I get the tap on the shoulder, and I look at Snack Bar and I go, Snack bar, which way are we shooting?
	Now I want you to know, I do think there is ultimate justice, and Snack Bar will go to hell.
	No, I do.
	I believe that.
	I'm sorry, I'm not I'm not happy about saying this.
	I believe this, though.
	Snack bar did not tell me.
	So I remember everything from those were the among the 58 worst seconds of my life.
	They began bad.
	I heard over the Madison Square Garden Intercom.
	Now coming in for Flatbush, number 13, Stanley Prager.
	I go, who the hell is Stephanie Prager?
	What the hell is she?
	When did I get Stanley?
	Everything went wrong.
	So I go in as a jump ball, and folks, I I I had to preface this because you'll think I would I I made I didn't make this up.
	After the jump ball, I ran to the wrong side of the court.
	And I remember the referee on that guy side looking at me and saying the following.
	Kid, are you some sort of schmuck?
	Now now, you gotta understand.
	Because I am prepared to see myself from outside of myself, I actually remember saying to myself, not to him, yeah.
	The truth is I am some sort of schmuck.
	What am I doing on the wrong side?
	For the next 50 whatever seconds, I remember doing only one thing, and that is avoiding the ball.
	And I re I re I give you my word, we should all be so well.
	I remember thinking, look busy, but do not go near the ball.
	So I was going like this.
	Even if we were on offense, I was going like this.
	I had I I was a blur.
	And that that so that is my uh my story of uh my basketball, you know what, because I sometimes, you know, when I when I was single and I would oh yeah, I played in the garden.
	Now I gotta tell you why I set it up to have Dennis do that.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Thank you.
	Number one, uh, right before we came out, we were talking about humor, and uh I I'm not a slapstick guy.
	I love a story.
	I love a story that is well told and well developed, and as a trial lawyer and as the lawyers out there will all tell you, those who tell the stories win.
	And Dennis tells that story better than any story I've had.
	But number two, I knew you would be laughing.
	I knew that you would have something to take away.
	You all go, you should have heard Prager tell the story about Medicine Quick Art.
	But it also stands up to this.
	In the time he has been president, has President Obama ever made you laugh.
	That's a good one.
	Has he ever made you laugh?
	And the answer is I don't think so.
	I don't believe he has an ounce of humor ability in him.
	And one of the reasons the country is turning against him is because he is genuinely a dark kind of cloud when it comes to the emotions of the country, as opposed to my friend Dennis, who can always be counted on to lift up.
	Well done, Benny.
	Thank you very much.
	Good name.
	You know why I say on the radio, and I said it today.
	We have one really, we have two choices to laugh or to cry, I prefer to laugh.
	And that's it.
	That that's that I have a philosophical basis for this.
	Thank you for that great story.
	Dennis, and now, unfortunately, the first question that's set up is going right back to you.
	So, Dennis, the first question is for you.
	One of the biggest political storylines this year is the rise of, of course, the Tea Party movement.
	Applause Thank you to the Redlands Tea Party Patriots for being part of this tonight.
	And Dennis, what in your estimation caused the rise of the Tea Party?
	And will this be a long-term or short-term political movement?
	I think part one, what caused it, and I would love to hear Hugh's thoughts on this too.
	What caused it, uh, I actually wrote about this uh in my weekly column uh oh about a year ago.
	I said there is a silver lining in what the President and the Democrats are doing.
	And I mean it.
	I meant it.
	This is was not I was not facetious.
	This was not tongue in cheek.
	There really is a silver lining.
	Finally, I lived to see clarity.
	He provided clarity.
	This is what the left stands for.
	Are you Americans leftists?
	No.
	Okay.
	Well, that was that was some are, and many are not.
	What happened was clarity.
	Number two, what happened was that the Democrats decided to do something unprecedented, change the country with not a single vote of the opposition party.
	They decided to impose rather than simply pass legislation, they decided to impose their left-wing agenda on a non-left wing country.
	And so spontaneously, people said enough.
	We are we have been, we Americans who are not on the left, and that's 80% of us.
	Eighty.
	Seventeen percent, eighteen percent of Americans in the latest Gallup poll define themselves as liberal, forget left, liberal.
	Eighteen percent.
	By the way, the question that arises, and this was a subject of a very recent column of mine.
	Why do non-leftists vote Democrat?
	Maybe we'll talk about that later.
	I don't want to veer off on that, but it's a very important question for us to answer.
	By the way, I can give you uh a one sentence answer.
	Because the right has been demonized effectively.
	That's the reason.
	How can you vote how can you vote right?
	How can you think how could you vote for a Republican?
	These people are six herb, as you may know from my show.
	Sexist, intolerant, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic, racist, and bigoted.
	That's and and that is so reinforced that the proof of my six herb thesis is the Tea Party.
	You can't find a more decent group of people.
	Look at how clean they leave the places where they are.
	Look at how you treat each other when you go to uh uh uh uh a mass meeting or demonstration.
	Wonderful, decent people.
	And yet, what did they do?
	You're racist.
	And why are you racist since you've never come out in the Tea Parties with a single thing that could even be be uh remotely regarded as racist, because you're predominantly white.
	But as I noted, so was the New York Philharmonic Orchestra.
	So is the Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra.
	Are they racist bodies?
	See, all of a sudden it it if the argument is so preposterous.
	So are the vast majority of the visitors to uh to the LA Zoo.
	I asked a docent at the LA Zoo when I visited many years ago, I noticed I I couldn't believe it.
	We saw all sorts of of uh of ethnic groups, but no blacks.
	And I went over to a dose.
	Why aren't uh I'm just curious.
	Um I have no race bent here.
	I am uh I'm a talk show host who observes society.
	Is this an odd day, or is it typical that blacks are not here and everybody else?
	She said it's she said, absolutely right.
	You noticed a fact that we don't see them here.
	And you know, I don't know, I still don't know why.
	But in any event, the fact that something is predominantly white makes it it's absurd to argue that it's uh that it's race.
	It's more than absurd, it's obscene.
	So anyway, that's the reason for people doing that.
	So finally, the the that being demonizing and not wanting to vote, the demonization, not wanting to vote, even though they're not leftists, not wanting to vote Republican.
	So you arose spontaneously, and this was also unexpected.
	They have to say you're funded by wealthy people.
	Tea parties are funded by the wealthy.
	As if they all went you all uh were uh were approached by some wealthy foundation.
	Listen, folks, we're gonna fund you, you go and and march.
	I mean, it is it's laughable, it is utterly laughable because the joke is that's what they do.
	The unions gather their people and they come.
	It's all by group.
	There's there's very little spontaneity.
	The the right has spontaneity.
	The right has ground, uh, has has the has the grassroots.
	So that's why that's why it arose.
	Well, the second part of the question is will it will it stay on?
	It will stay on so long as the Republican Party deviates from the conservative principles that it should stand for.
	And when it doesn't, it will become unnecessary.
	The Republican Party will be the Tea Party.
	And at that point, it will not be necessary.
	Hugh, you want to cover some of that or you want to move on to the next question?
	Go ahead.
	Move on.
	Okay.
	California is ranked dead last in terms of business climate.
	Apparently, politicians in California don't think business climate matters and don't understand how jobs are created.
	I heard a site locator joke, I believe it was from CEO magazine.
	California, ah, yes, Detroit with sunshine.
	A glaring example of how politicians thinks jobs are created was displayed in the debate recently between Connecticut Senate candidate Senate candidates, Linda McMahon and Dick Blumenthal.
	Rather simple question, but he had some trouble answering it.
	Clip one.
	Sort of a follow-up, Mr. Blumenthal.
	You've talked about you want to incentivize small businesses.
	Tell me something.
	How do you create a job?
	How do you create a job?
	Sort of a follow-up, Mr. Blumenthal.
	You've talked about you want to incentivize small businesses.
	Tell me something.
	How do you create a job?
	The job is created, and it can be in a variety of ways, by a variety of people, but principally by people and businesses in response to demand for products and services.
	And the main point about jobs in Connecticut is we can and we should create more of them by creative policies.
	And that's the kind of approach that I want to bring to Washington.
	I have stood up for jobs when they've been at stake.
	I stood up for jobs at Alderman Motors when GIM wanted to shut down that automobile dealership.
	I stood up for jobs at Pat and Whitney when that company wanted to ship them out of state and overseas.
	I stood up for jobs at Stanley when it was threatened with a hostile takeover.
	I know about how government can help preserve jobs.
	And I want programs that provide more capital for small businesses, better tax policies, that will promote creation of jobs, stronger intervention by government to make sure that we use the made in America policies and by America policies to keep jobs here rather than buying products that are manufactured overseas as WWE has done.
	Ms. McMahon.
	Government, government, government.
	Government does not create jobs.
	It's very simple how you create jobs.
	An entrepreneur takes a risk.
	He or she believes that he creates a goods or service that is sold for more than it costs to make it.
	If an entrepreneur thinks he can do that, he creates a job.
	Thank you.
	We debate it over the length of that clip, but it sort of loses its punch if you don't see him kind of flopping all over the place before she gets right to the answer.
	So Hugh, uh, how did the uh job environment get this bad in California and how do we fix it?
	Uh we've had probably twenty years of unbroken democratic rule in Sacramento with a period of two years that was not when Kurt Pringle briefly held the spankership of the assembly.
	Other than that, it's been twenty years of legislative chaos, twenty years of job killing mandates, twenty years of uh the kind of incoherents Dick Blumenthal just put on display.
	An inability to articulate is not even the worst thing.
	It's the inability to imagine.
	It would if it was just tongue-tied, if he was just inarticulate because of the TV camera, that would be different.
	But it's not.
	He has no clue.
	I talked today on the air, and and Jack, where are you?
	Where's Jack?
	Jack's right here.
	Jack uh is a uh flooring entrepreneur in Huntington Beach.
	And we were talking during one of the breaks I was doing my show.
	I said, Jack, come up here.
	And talk to American Terry Fayer, great GM of these two stations, say hi to Terry back there, wave.
	That's our our great boss and uh uh of KTIE and KRLA.
	And Terry was listening to this coming in and said it was absolutely magnificent radio, because what Jack said was I don't need any advice from the government, I need customers.
	And I need people to stay out of my way, and I need the government to stop telling me what to do, and I need to be able to sell to people who want to buy my flooring so that we can make more jobs and produce more product.
	He knows what he's talking about because he's run his business for how many years?
	Twenty-five years.
	Dick Blumenthal, like Jerry Brown, like Barbara Boxer, like, and I'll just run down all of them, Joe Sestack, like uh uh uh Kendrick Meeks, like uh Ted Strickland in Ohio, like you name him for me, uh Alex Gianulius in in Illinois.
	These people, well, actually, he he was in business with the mob.
	Um if if you if you run down Democratic candidate after democratic candidate, they are thrown up out of the government.
	That's what they know.
	That's how they have always lived.
	They have been part of an apparatus that has never had to do with the creation of job or wealth, never had to take a risk, never had to lose their money, never had to work those hours.
	And as a result, I believe that California is where we are today because the people who have run this legislature come out of machine politics that genuinely do not know the first thing about production of tax.
	Pete Pete Wilson used to say the state will be in a crisis when we have more takers than we have makers.
	We crossed the taker and maker thing about four years ago, and it has been a crisis since.
	And if we do not elect Mick Whitman, if we do not elect Meg Whitman on November the second, the state will not be able to recover because too many of their makers of our makers will simply leave.
	They will have had it, they will be done, they will go.
	and you can't get them back once they're gone.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Dennis, this question kind of follows along with that one as well.
	Have we created, in your estimation, a political elite in this country that they think they know what's best for everyone, but much like our current president, they've never run much of everything anything, never met a payroll.
	Is that political elite there and is that a problem?
	The political elite of the left, at any rate, uh comes from academia.
	It's one now it's now one Harvard professor after another.
	I frequently play on my show, William Buckley, the late great William Buckley saying, Well, I have quoted much of my life, so he must have said it many decades ago.
	I'd rather be governed by the first hundred names in the Cambridge phone book than by a hundred Harvard professors.
	And uh but it has to be understood that that is literally accurate.
	It is not a cute line.
	In academia, and I taught at college and I went to uh an Ivy League graduate school, uh, in academia, you live in a place that is insulated from reality.
	That's the only explanation for my favorite example that they taught us regularly when I was at school that men and women are basically the same.
	If you just give boys T-sets and dolls, and you give girls trucks and uh toy soldiers, then they'll be all happy.
	It's just sexist upbringing that produces feminine what we call feminine or masculine traits.
	You had to be an academic to believe that, or the product of academia.
	If you actually raised children, you would know how silly it was.
	And by the way, This was mentioned by uh Larry uh uh Summers while he was president of Harvard, he mentioned that.
	He said he bought this line and he actually gave his girl uh his uh daughter for some holiday or birthday trucks.
	And uh he noticed that day that she wasn't in the living room and everything was quiet, and so he knocked on her door.
	She was about seven years old.
	And she opened the door and she said, Daddy, shh, the trucks are sleeping.
	Okay.
	And obviously, if you gave a boy a T set, they would all become frisbees.
	But you see, the reason you are laughing is because you have not uh been or been able to disinfect yourself from the nonsense that academia teaches.
	Once the elite comes from the academic world, whether it would be uh Woodrow Wilson, who is president of Princeton, uh, or uh up to today's uh president and uh all the people, nearly all those that he's appointing, they live in a world of theory.
	And finally, their theory is that America should be like as much like a welfare state in so in Western Europe as possible.
	That is their dream.
	I'll I'll conclude this answer with something that is very important in my opinion.
	And that is a realization I came to oh maybe ten only ten years ago.
	And I feel silly saying this, but I think that if I didn't come to this realization till late, a lot of Americans have not.
	I used to believe that the left and right had basically similar visions for what they would like America to be.
	They differed in the means, not in the ends.
	I was entirely, not partially entirely wrong.
	Left and right not only differ in means, they differ in ends.
	The America that they wish to create is utterly different from the America we wish to create.
	It doesn't make them bad, it doesn't make them mean spirited or anything like that.
	However, it means that if you want an America whose central values are e pluribus unum, liberty, and in God we trust, what I call the American Trinity, all of them are opposed by the left who want multiculturalism instead of e pluribus unum, who want a secular society instead of an in God we trust society and who want equality over liberty.
	We envision a different America.
	The we are in a nonviolent civil war, and it will be in part decided this November whether we lose.
	You're here.
	applause applause Thank you.
	Hugh, anybody who listens to you to your show knows you follow the numbers on the elections around the country as close as anybody.
	So this is a great question for you, which is how big do you think the Republican wins and the Republican wave fueled by the Tea Party is going to be, and what key races should we be watching as early indicators of that?
	The um the opportunity arose today to interview Carl Rove, which I always take up uh the architect deserves his name.
	And uh so I asked Carl, and I'll use his number today.
	He said he's been a 35 to 42 guy in the house, but he's now a 42 to 45 guy in the house.
	That means a takeover.
	I think that's low.
	He said we could win eight to ten seats in the Senate, maybe eleven.
	I believe he's right on there.
	I think it's gonna be nine.
	It's gonna be a split Senate.
	I can't see us getting all three.
	We need the three West Coast seats, which are Joe Miller and Alaska, uh Dino Rossi and Washington State, and Carly Fiorina in California.
	We need all three.
	I can see us getting two out of three.
	But the odds are if you've got three fifty-fifty races, um, you only get two of them.
	And so, and in the governorships he sees us picking up seven to eight, and we'll have thirty to thirty-one.
	And we'll get the big ones.
	Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Ohio, uh, Michigan.
	Uh and California, I believe we're gonna win in California, I really do.
	And so the uh it's gonna be big.
	It's gonna be big, but I I want to encourage everyone.
	And I keep putting up new candidates who are spreading the map.
	We have uh uh I remember walking into KCET in 1994, and it was an election that no one saw coming, and Chris Cox serving in the house at that time came on and I opened the show by saying if it was a fight they would have stopped it.
	And Chris said anyone who told you that they saw this coming is lying.
	And I believe that that kind of surprise can still happen.
	I think the shift is so profound.
	And uh Dennis and I have been out on the road a lot.
	We were together with Governor Palin in Denver in May.
	Uh we were in Minnesota last week with Michelle Bachman.
	Uh we're not afraid of strong women, are we, Dennis?
	Uh we've been out with two of the strongest women in America, and we're both married to strong women.
	But but I will tell you the most unusual thing I have seen happen.
	The most unusual I tell stories about Dennis.
	I I hope you understand how much I love going on the road with Dennis.
	And uh it's mutual.
	But but in this this Denver thing was pretty interesting.
	I'm gonna toss it to him in a second.
	Um the the the show was supposed to run like this.
	Fifteen minutes, Prager, 15 minutes Hewitt, 30 minutes, Governor Palant, followed by an hour of questions.
	But Dennis was in a great deal of pain.
	He was in fact in a wheelchair.
	Sue and I were wheeling them around, doing wheelies and dumping them out, stuff like that.
	And uh and so he was getting that energy that is Prager was bottled up, and he couldn't move around and talk and walk and shake hands all.
	He was kind of bottled up.
	And so when he walked like Franklin Delano Roosevelt in that famous scene out to the podium, he exploded.
	And uh and he spoke for 35 minutes, and it was wonderful.
	And I'm looking at my watch.
	Okay, there goes my time, and I'm done.
	But then I got done, I we got back on schedule, and then we sat down to do the questions, and again it'd been building up because Governor Palin gave a great speech.
	And then an interesting thing happened.
	The first question was what's what's the biggest danger to the country?
	And Dennis gave an answer, which I'll I haven't recreate here because it's so important.
	It explains the tea party, it explains why we're gonna have the wave, it explains so much.
	And it had absolutely nothing to do with the day's events, but it had everything to do with what's going on in the country, and two million people have watched this answer on YouTube.
	Two million people.
	Now he probably won't want to tell you, but I just I want uh what he said that night, I've been thinking about it a lot.
	Governor Pell and I were sitting there, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But it explains a lot about what's happened.
	Well, it was very touching, actually.
	Uh, by the way, I'm fine now.
	If you noticed when I walked in, I was not in a wheelchair or well, I walked in, I obviously was not in a wheelchair.
	But uh I but I want to tell you though, my life is is abnormal.
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	...nerve, which is simple to describe and awful to have.
	I mean the pain.
	I I actually did an hour on the subject of pain.
	I have very interesting theories on it, but I have interesting theories on everything, I think.
	But uh in any event, uh I get my surgery in uh what was it, June, right?
	The first one was June.
	And uh and by golly, I uh as soon as I open my eyes after the anesthetic, I say, you know, my my right leg has some pain.
	Doctor says, happens all the time.
	Don't worry about it.
	Gets worse, and I keep texting the doctor, is this normal?
	I'm in terrible pain.
	It turns out this man, and he's a terrific surgeon, I would recommend him to anybody, and he was great for me.
	But this man said, he is the head of the Spinal Institute at USC.
	He said, Dennis, in twelve thousand such surgeries, I have never seen this, the same disc exploded on the other side.
	And he had never seen this.
	So I went back th three weeks later for the next surgery.
	And uh now I'm now I'm fine.
	Then I then in July I in August I had finger surgery because I had a staph infection in my finger.
	I can't believe I had no surgery in September.
	I felt bored, I must say.
	I said, you know, Sue, there gotta be something I can have an operation on.
	You have to understand, too, what my life is like.
	It's very funny to be to be in public life.
	It has it has its funny moments regularly, actually.
	There you are in these incredibly humiliating gowns that they put on so they can have complete access to your tuchas.
	Uh if you don't know what tuchis is, it's Yiddish for buttocks.
	And uh, you know, and me and here I am lying, getting ready for surgery.
	I'm Sue Sue saw this, my wife saw this.
	Dennis Prager.
	The last thing I'm thinking of is I'm a celebrity.
	You know, the the very last.
	I'm thinking, no, I'm really a pathetic creature whose buttocks is hanging out.
	And uh, oh, can I have your autograph?
	Oh, I gotta tell.
	I can't wait to tell my boyfriend.
	This is awesome.
	As the needle is going in to put me to sleep.
	This is very fun.
	And I I have no problem with it.
	I just want you to know it's just funny to live a life like that.
	Why did I even mention this now that I think of it?
	Oh, yeah, that's right.
	Why I was wheeled into Denver.
	That's right.
	So they asked, so it was Governor Bill uh uh Senator Bill Armstrong, former Senator Colorado, who's the MC.
	So it was I was sitting here, uh Sarah Palin here, and Hugh next on the other side of Sarah Palin.
	So he began with me because I was closest to him.
	Dennis, let's let me ask you, what's the biggest problem confronting of America?
	There were 6,000 people there.
	And so a number of them shout out, Obama.
	And I took that as a perfect cue, and I said, No, it is not Barack Obama.
	It is not.
	It is our inability to have transmitted American values to the next generation of Americans.
	And then I explained what those values were, didn't even know it was videoed, and then learned through through the internet, that all of a sudden, you know, within a few weeks, 800,000.
	Now those are separate views.
	That's two million is separate computers on the assumption that most people have at least one person living with them.
	That's four million people.
	And this is not to brag, it's to tell you the thirst for that.
	And they realize, yes, that's the point.
	It's not Barack Obama, it's not the Democrats, it's that we have failed to transmit America's values.
	The greatest generation failed in this.
	They did they defended, but they didn't know to articulate what they were defending.
	Superman knew.
	What was it?
	Truth justice and the American way, he came pretty damn close.
	By the way, in the Superman movie, you know, they dropped uh what is it?
	They dropped the American way, I think.
	It was just truth and justice.
	Isn't that interesting?
	When they made the Superman movie, gives you an idea of the insidious effect of having the left dominate the culture.
	The American way, that's that's chauvinistic.
	And that's what we have to do.
	And what are those values?
	I'm not going to give you the talk.
	I just tell you what I said, the American Trinity, and I learned it up emptying my pockets 15 years ago.
	I uh I had the values of America in my pocket since I was a child on every coin.
	E pluribus unum and God we trust liberty.
	No other country in the world has those three as its central values.
	And the left opposes all three, and I never accuse them of bad intentions or anything.
	They have a different value system.
	There is a competition on this earth, this is the subject of my next book, for the mind of humanity between American values, Islam, and leftism.
	Those are the three competing ideologies, and but here's the problem.
	Two of them proselytize, one doesn't.
	Thank you.
	One of the interesting things you can...
	You mentioned Superman dropping the American Way.
	Of course, they did the GI Joe movie, and he was working for the United Nations, not the U.S. Army.
	Yes.
	It's the G.I. Joe movie.
	They were all working for the UN, not the U.S. Army anymore.
	I don't know how you call it G.I. Joe at that point, but apparently that cultural reference has been lost.
	Hugh, one of the seminal moments of the Obama administration has been the passage of the health care bill.
	Let's say clip two.
	But we have to pass the bill so that you can uh find out what is in it.
	That was a great moment.
	And that was who everybody?
	Yeah, we didn't think we need to show the video on that one.
	Now clearly in that clip, you can hear the smugness in her voice with which Nancy Pelosi acted in framing and passing, let me editorialize this monstrosity called Obamacare.
	This was hence infuriating the masses.
	How do we get the politicians in Washington and here in California in Sacramento to listen to the people again and do what their will is.
	On Obamacare, it's very clear.
	How many of you want it simply to be repealed immediately upon the passage of it?
	I have always believed that repeal was possible.
	I thought it would take four or six years.
	I'm becoming more and more convinced that it will become the defining election of the next Congress, and not piecemeal, but as a part of an overall resolution that simply says setback, because the first wave impacts of Obamacare have been devastating.
	Twenty-two thousand seniors of Harvard Pilgrim in New England, that's the Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Hampshire plans, have lost their Medicare advantage.
	Twenty-two thousand.
	The principal group in Indiana announced that they were selling off 620,000 policies they were getting out of the health care insurance business.
	3M announced that their seniors will no longer be covered by a 3M policy.
	They're going into Medicare whether or not they want to go into Medicare.
	These are, and McDonald's has begun the study about whether their mini med plans will be continued.
	McDonald's got a waiver.
	Thousands of small businesses will not get that waiver.
	The first order impacts of Obamacare have been devastating, and each of those individuals who has had their insurance in any way changed or their doctor care in any way altered has had a personal promise from the president to them broken.
	It is not one promise that he has broken.
	He has broken by my count at least six hundred and forty-four thousand promises to the principal and to the Harvard pilgrim people because he said, and I play it every day, I guarantee you, here's a guarantee I will make.
	If you like your insurance plan, you can keep it.
	If you like your doctor, you can keep it.
	That's President Obama giving his personal guarantee, and it was a lie.
	He knew at the time he could not make that guarantee, and the American people do not like what's happened.
	Now I talked to a couple of doctors in the front row here.
	A couple of docs here.
	Any other docs here tonight?
	They are changing the way that American medicine is being delivered because they cannot practice medicine under these conditions.
	They will drop out, they will drop their patients, and most importantly, young people will not go into the profession.
	And when young people stop going into the profession, we will not have the kind of quality health care that we want.
	I'll close by saying this.
	We're going to hold the feet of the Republicans to the fire on this.
	They have got to vote to appeal Obamacare.
	It is not.
	It's not an option.
	There are two things which are not options.
	One is not to go along to get along on Obamacare and Trim, and the other is not to spend.
	And we'll come back and we'll talk about appropriations here.
	But I believe that as this rolls out, the demand to change this back is so intense that we're going to see that kind of that it in the reality.
	It's going to actually happen much more quickly because a people engaged and outraged and active really will scare politicians.
	And you have, and you will continue to do so.
	Thank you.
	The next question actually was, and you you jumped jumped right to it is uh was for Dennis is that uh the number of companies and the exemptions coming out.
	Uh do you still want to answer what effect do you think this is going to have politically on the chance of repeal.
	Well, i it obviously, unless I misunderstand your question, the chance for repeal is dependent upon what happens this November.
	I mean, that's one of the many reasons that this November, in my opinion, and I I never said this before, so it's not like I say this every election.
	I don't.
	It's the most important election, not just my lifetime, I believe, since the Civil War.
	This is a referendum.
	I see it actually as a plebiscite on America.
	And I have announced, I admit it, while I there are unbelievably impressive candidates running on the Republican uh this guy in Miller, uh in in Alaska.
	I mean, in his his curriculum vitae, his resume reads reads like something you would make it central casting for an American leader.
	And then and uh the Dr. Steele, who was running against uh the guy in Detroit, what's his name?
	The the the uh Dingle.
	Dingle, yeah.
	Uh I mean it's this this I had him on the show, this doctor, he's is eloquent, bright, humble, accomplished.
	On the other hand, some are less impressive.
	And I I frankly, I would vote for Howdy Duty if he ran on the Republican ticket.
	I admit it.
	I I do.
	I uh I'm sorry.
	I know this sounds unimpressive to independents who that well, we look at the we look at the candidate.
	I frankly look at the party.
	The Democratic Party, it doesn't matter who they run, because whoever they run will obey uh the Democratic Party's leadership and shift this country irreversibly, in their opinion, to the left.
	Big government means little liberty.
	Okay, that's what it means.
	The bigger the government, the less the liberty.
	The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.
	That's my that's my motto.
	We sell that bumper sticker.
	You become less of a person as the government gets bigger.
	America, America was founded to make the individual a giant, not the government.
	And it's one or the other.
	You cannot have both.
	Do you know that most people in the world today cannot name a European?
	Believe me, in a hundred years ago, you could have named any number of Europeans.
	Any number.
	Central to almost every area of life.
	Today it is like one big blob, which is what is created largely in in the socialist paradises of uh of Europe.
	Because nobody wants to, you nobody wants to excel.
	There's no reason to excel.
	Do you know that in Germany, if you uh you own a store, own a store.
	You have to close it at 5 p.m.
	Because if you keep it open till six, you have a quote an unfair advantage over the guy who closes it at five.
	So why work to excel?
	I mean, you you to an American this sounds unbelievable.
	I believe truly, if the Democratic Party had its way within ten years, we would have a rule like that.
	Because, listen, and this is key.
	Remember I said our goals are different.
	Our goal is to create economically, we have many goals, social, cultural, moral, but economically, our goal is to create wealth.
	The leftist goal is to redistribute wealth.
	We have an entirely different view of the of it.
	That's the reason that they could tell you you can't stay open longer.
	You'll make more money.
	That is inequality, you can't do it.
	And that is why this November matters, and then we can repeal it.
	I've Said from the beginning it had to be repealed.
	We can't have, well, there were nice parts of it.
	If there were nice parts of it, we start anew and we pass nice parts of it.
	The nicest thing that we could do, by the way, and a lot of Americans won't like won't like this.
	Maybe some of you won't.
	We have to start having us pay part of our health care costs.
	Anything, anything, let me tell you something.
	Whatever people do not pay for, they abuse.
	They don't appreciate and they abuse.
	I am included.
	It is true for it is a universal.
	Let me give you one example, and I learned this.
	I learned this uh uh very early in my life.
	When I came to California at the age of twenty-seven, it was to direct the Jewish educational institute, and I had just published my first book, which was on Judaism.
	And uh believe it or not, a lot of people don't know this.
	Authors get six free books, the rest they have to buy like everybody else.
	But everybody who you know this, you know, every the your seventh cousin wants a free copy.
	Hugh, come on, Hugh.
	You want to send me a copy?
	Like you don't, you like you get a you know, you call up your publisher, can you send me another two hundred?
	All my relatives want one.
	Uh so anyway, I bought a box of my own books.
	Hardcover.
	And I remember at this institute, which had a summer camp, I spoke one the first day of camp or day right the week before camp to the counselors, and I said, I'll I want you to know I'm gonna give all of you a c a copy of my book.
	And by the tenth person receiving it, I realized what a stupid thing I had done.
	If I if they had to pay one dollar, they might have read it.
	Getting it for free, it was worthless.
	And that is true.
	That is that's human nature.
	And so we will have to make serious changes in health care in the opposite direction of this.
	I want to be master of my own life.
	This is the American way.
	You fail and you succeed.
	Freedom to fail is not in the vocabulary of the left.
	But if you can't fail, there can't be success.
	So that's why we need to repeal this for social reasons aside from economic ones.
	Thank you.
	Final question on health care, a political one for you, Hugh.
	Uh is the passage of Obamacare, do you believe destined to go down as one of the biggest political overreaches of all time?
	It's a great question.
	The answer is uh yes, but the left didn't know it at the time.
	Uh I I'm gonna defer I defer to Dennis on a lot of this on the left, and and I I I take the political questions because I try not to think like the left.
	I think it could hurt me.
	And Dennis spent a lot of time trying to think like the left.
	And I I I've always it's it's actually a very different approach to doing this because I I try and be aware of their arguments and understand it, but I I don't want to I don't read too deeply in the left.
	Um I prefer to stick with history and things like that because I do think their their prism through which they understand things is so bizarre.
	You can end up losing your way uh by reading too much in it.
	But I will say this.
	They really thought that's what America wanted.
	And to me, it's it's they don't understand the genetic makeup of Americans.
	It's so deeply ingrained not to want to be a leftist in America.
	And it goes back to Detoqueville and the people that I read.
	We are we love freedom.
	We love being left alone.
	We do not want to be part of long lines.
	Americans hate lines.
	They hate lines, they're not.
	Exactly.
	Russians, you know, have gotten have grown up standing in lines to get nothing for hours, right?
	That's what they did.
	And and so we we can't people go into a bank, or or how many of you get mad if someone's got five items and the five, you know, five items too many in the checkout line.
	They shouldn't be in that line.
	That's not I want to be out of here in a hurry.
	We don't like anyone telling us to get in line or do anything we want.
	But the left really didn't know.
	They really didn't understand us.
	And uh, and it's as though they do not understand the genetic makeup of of America.
	I do not know how they could be that blind.
	So I'm gonna I'm gonna toss.
	How could they have been that blind?
	I would change one verb.
	Uh you said uh I don't remember exactly, but you said something to the effect in the beginning that they don't um they don't know what Americans want, I think you said.
	I would change the word no to care.
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	I never say things to insult that's gratuitous.
	I literally mean what I said.
	They know better than Hugh and me and you how this country should be governed.
	You, if you differ with them, you are six herb, sexist, intolerant, xenophobic, homophobic, islamophobic, racist, or bigoted, or all of the all of the above.
	And that's all they need to know.
	That's why we always beat them in debates.
	I mean always.
	Always.
	Not because we're better debaters, not because we're necessarily smarter, but because they've never argued their position.
	They live in insular worlds like academia or New York City or San Francisco, and they uh and they only talk to one another, they only read one another.
	I read, you're right, by the way, it is a very funny uh if that's the word, an odd characteristic that's built into me.
	Do you know what I did as a hobby at 14?
	I listened at night to Radio Moscow.
	Oh gosh.
	Yes, you're right.
	Well, I I was just talking to my wife about this.
	I I finally have come to conclude I am a freak.
	I I am.
	I am.
	I by the way, it made raising my kids difficult because everybody who raises kids thinks of their own childhood as a good as a sort of way of understanding.
	I was so abnormal.
	I was.
	There was nothing normal about me.
	I was smoking a pipe at fifteen, reading symphonic scores on my own, which I would take out of the New York Philemonic Library and listening to Radio Moscow and learning Russian from a Berlitz Russian book.
	Now, there I don't think there was another 14-year-old in America doing that.
	And so there's nothing to be learned from me.
	And of course, I graduated in the top 80% of my high school class because I did no high school work.
	This was what I was doing.
	My parents thought I would end up in jail.
	They really did.
	It's very funny.
	But in any event, I always cared what the others thought.
	I pre that's why I learned Russian and Arabic.
	I was so I wanted so deeply to know how those others think.
	So yes, I've immersed my life in their thinking.
	I went to communist countries, I studied totalitarianism.
	They know better.
	They are better people.
	They're not six herb.
	They are not sexist intolerant races, bigoted, etc.
	They're not.
	They're the opposite.
	They're open-minded and kind and compassionate, unlike us who are mean spirited and selfish.
	That's their world view.
	So therefore, they can impose on you.
	Therefore, the answer is not they don't know what the American people want.
	It's irrelevant.
	What is it?
	Is it uh what was uh Rahm Emanuel's motto?
	We use a crisis.
	What was a good crisis go to waste?
	Never let a crisis go to waste.
	That's exactly it.
	We don't have to persuade the American people.
	And to the extent that they tried to persuade, they lied.
	It's permitted to lie.
	I'm not there were liars who are conservative, there are liars who were liberal, there are honest people who are conservative and honest people who were liberal.
	But as an ideology, truth is not on the hierarchy of left-wing values, because it can come in the way of the greater the greater good of social justice.
	That's much more important than truth.
	And if you have to lie and say things, the president I I play this all the time.
	The president said, uh not that I believe in big government.
	Uh, you know, I don't believe in big government.
	I mean, my God, for the president to say he doesn't believe in big government?
	I mean, w the I I don't know what what is one to say.
	What is big government then?
	And so and so that's the point.
	If they can do it, they will do it.
	What is the name of your great book that I cite all the time?
	If it's not close, they can't cheat.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
	Hugh, you started that one, so that's this next question actually starts with Dennis.
	In the wake of what we called climate gate at the time, do we need a wholesale review of all the policies we've passed to combat what now appears to have been a myth, the thing called global warming.
	Propped up by bad science and in some cases flat out fabricated science.
	Do we need a total re-examination of this and what effect do you think it would have on our national economy if we did?
	All right, look, uh I I don't want to be too long here.
	Uh there is a uh this is this is another thing that I've tried to figure out.
	A few years ago, even maybe four years ago, I wrote a column and I asked a question, which is one leftists should ask, not just people on the right.
	Why over Americans have a big health care problem.
	Over 100 million U.S. citizens carry medical debt.
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	Welmingly, was it liberals who believed that man-made carbon dioxide emission will lead to such heat as to destroy a good part of the planet?
	And why did the vast majority of conservatives not believe it?
	I don't want to drown.
	Right?
	Conservatives are as uh dislike drowning just as much as liberals.
	Is that fair to say?
	But take a vote.
	If you don't want to drown, would you raise your hand, please?
	I just want to get a show of hands, fine.
	No, no, it's a very important thing.
	Think about it for a moment.
	Why would we be less scared than they?
	If we have no uh we have no desire to see any of the ends promised us by the global warming theorists.
	We're as affected as anybody else.
	Just as many conservatives lived in coastal areas as as liberals.
	Just as many conservatives will will uh have the terrible heat or whatever, whatever, or the droughts that so why why were you you are the vast majority of you in this room are not in the oil business, are not executives of of energy companies, and are are uh middle class, truly middle class.
	Why aren't you afraid of it?
	You you should be the people who fear it.
	And by the way, it's not a simple answer.
	It's a very important question, but not a simple answer.
	And so I had to, I have to, I've been thinking about this, as you pointed out.
	I've been thinking and thinking.
	Why did they believe this?
	And then I realized it's part and parcel of something the left does regularly.
	There's always a world crisis on the left.
	When I was young, it was uh the population of the earth will eat up its resources.
	Remember that?
	And so people believed in ZPG.
	And Europe decided to go ZPG, zero population growth, and as a result, Europe is fading.
	What it had to do was bring in tens of tens of millions of people, largely Muslim, to work because they had no younger generation to support the older generation in a welfare state.
	So they sowed the seeds of their destruction, believing this myth.
	I have come to see it over and over silicone breast implants.
	I'm sorry if there are any who still believe that that caused terrible disease.
	It was finally debunked as false science.
	Uh the um uh uh heterosexual aids in America, Time and Newsweek had pictures of white heterosexual women on the cover, middle class white women, uh in other words, she's as likely to get AIDS as an Ivy drug user's partner and as a gay male.
	This notion, and why did they do it?
	Again, because truth is not important.
	They did it in part because they get hysterical very easily, and secondly, because they have a larger urge, the larger urge there was to de-demonize AIDS.
	And the only way to do it is to say, what are you it's not a gay male disease, but it was not a gay female.
	The last person likely to get AIDS is a lesbian.
	So it can't be anti-gay unless you're only anti-male homosexuals.
	So it had nothing to do with anti, it had to do with truth telling.
	I was almost fired from KABC.
	That was my first station.
	And I remember I remember it was the only time that I was ever well, I was called in one other time.
	Twice in 18 years at KABC I was called in, and once was Dennis, we're getting letters from doctors to remove you from the air.
	Because you're denying heterosexual aids.
	And the reason I did was Michael Fomento's article in commentary magazine, The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS.
	And I learned how AIDS is transmitted, he explained it perfectly well.
	I won't go into the details of anal uh cavities with you, uh, but uh but he explained it perfectly perfectly well.
	Every scare, there are scares, by the way, that turned out to be hysteria that both left and right believed.
	For example, the molestation of children at daycare centers.
	That transcended left and right.
	Overwhelmingly, it is part of the left.
	Whatever it is.
	They get their I don't know why, this I have not answered.
	I don't know why they get scared more easily.
	They do.
	I don't know exactly why, but I do know that they use these scares to implement what they want.
	And in this case, it was to get off fossil fuel because carbon dioxide creates heat.
	I just want you to know that the the leading person in the Obama administration on this issue wants this to be renamed, not even climate change.
	That was the second, that was the first rename.
	What is the latest rename?
	Global climate disruption.
	But wait, do you realize what they're saying?
	If either carbon dioxide emission traps heat or it doesn't.
	If it's only climate disruption and we're no longer talking about global warming, then it's an acknowledgement it was at best erroneous and at worst a lie the whole time.
	This is a very big issue.
	One final word.
	Wherever there is a scare, getting the government to get more expansive is really at the heart of the scare.
	And this was a perfect example.
	We will tell you what light bulbs to use.
	And by the way, that light bulb, okay, you know about it, right?
	I mean, you know, if it breaks, you have to leave the house.
	Did you know that?
	I'm serious.
	Read about it.
	It's got mercury in it.
	You must take yourself and your pets out.
	If it's two degrees out, you have to.
	It's where if it's Minnesota, as you put it, you have to do it.
	So uh that's that's uh uh longer than I wanted to be on on that on the global warming issue.
	Let me uh pick up a little bit on that though, Lou, because Prop 23 is on our ballot.
	You've got the That was the next question.
	No, right.
	We've got to vote for this because California, which is already struggling under a uh a deadening and stultifying bewildering array of regulations, is unilaterally disarming in the economic competitiveness uh nature by imposing Hollywood's agenda on the state via the uh uh AB 32.
	23 is the reverse of 32, and we've got to do it.
	But I have a proposition on uh on global warming.
	And I I believe you can always go back to some things, again I'm gonna credit Dennis partially on this.
	How many of you attended parochial school?
	Those of you who attended parochial school, how many of you know at least some of the Ten Commandments anymore?
	I believe that you can successfully predict whether someone's going to be a conservative based upon whether or not they can remember some or all of the Ten Commandments.
	And I I I really do believe if you go down, you find someone, you don't ask them anything about you, just meet a stranger and say, Do you know any of the Ten Commandments?
	I'm the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have strange gods before me.
	And you just run down the ten or however they might be, and and there are different variations depending that if they know all are part of the ten, they're going to be a conservative because they will have been in they would have been brought up in a natural law uh uh proposition.
	But one of those commandments, the one I I mentioned, I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have strange gods before me, was taught to me to be skeptical of anything that claims priority on God and natural law.
	And that that was drilled in.
	I went twelve years of Catholic education, and so it's drilled in that idols are bad.
	Idols are very bad.
	And we are the left loves its idols.
	It it sets them up all the time.
	This is sort of a variation on what Dennis was saying.
	But but I always understood communism to be the idol of Marxist thought.
	I have always thought that Hitler was his own idol.
	I think global warming is an ideology of science.
	I think evolution is its own ideology, and I'm not disputing uh it's its truth here.
	I'm just talking about how the left must have an idol, because they knocked down God.
	And when you when you take God out of that, you're looking for something, and they're ready to fall for anything as a result of that.
	And the climate people are just the hippies who don't want to get out down and roll around in the mud anymore.
	They need something to believe in.
	And when we've got something to believe in, we're just not that easily taken in, Dennis.
	I wonder if you Oh, that's brilliant and true.
	I never thought of the Ten Commandments one.
	Uh but that that's right.
	I'm very tempted to recite them for you, but I won't.
	I really am.
	In order, in order.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	I'm the Lord your God who took you out of the land of Egypt out of the house of slavery.
	You shall not have any other gods before me.
	Do not do not create any graven image.
	Do not take the name of the Lord in vain.
	Uh honor your father and mother uh uh keep the Sabbath day holy.
	Honor your father and mother, do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not bear false witness, and do not covet thy neighbors anything.
	The conservative party.
	By the way, he's right, by the way.
	It's a very powerful thing.
	Everybody should know them by heart.
	And I want you to know they they govern my life.
	They do.
	My uh I'll tell you a story I've never told publicly.
	Uh only because it never arose.
	It's a very move from at least moving to me.
	Uh when my older son had his bar mitvah, uh in Jewish life, every Sabbath, a portion of the Torah, the first five books of of the Bible, are are read until you complete it till the end of Deuteronomy, and then you start over again after uh Rosh Hashanah, the new year.
	And uh it turned out by sheer coincidence that his portion was the portion called Jethro, Exodus 20, which has the Ten Commandments.
	And I was called to bless the Torah when he read the Ten Commandments from the Torah.
	My son, his bar mitzvah, reading the Ten Commandments in the original Hebrew, and I called for blessing, I was mush.
	I I I cried through the entire blessing.
	It was pathetic.
	You know, my son is looking at me, Dad.
	Come on, Dad.
	Come on.
	Anyways, it's a very it's a very powerful thing to to uh to remember uh those uh the commandments.
	What was the uh there was another point and I want to make maybe I shouldn't.
	What what were you uh just saying beyond the Ten Commandments?
	Oh, about the idols.
	He's exactly right.
	No, no.
	Uh G.K. Chesterton.
	G. Chesterton said in the 1890s, when people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing, they believe in anything.
	The death of God in the death of God in Europe gave us communism and Nazism.
	Those were secular ideologies.
	That's why it's very hard to get me angry on the air, as you well know.
	Callers can say all sorts of nonsense.
	I I really have to control it when they give me the mantra they picked up in college.
	More people have been killed in the name of God and religion than anything else.
	Nothing compares to the number of people slaughtered in one century by secular ideologies, Nazism and communism.
	All the religions in the world combined are Boy Scouts compared to what Nazism and Communism did.
	The death of God is the death of morality.
	It doesn't mean every atheist is immoral and every religious person is moral.
	Of course not.
	There are despicable religious people and there are wonderful atheists.
	But in the course of a society, that's exactly what happens.
	And Europe is fading as a moral force because it is so secular.
	You know what they believe most in in Europe?
	Vacation time.
	That is their I I mean it with all sincerity.
	That is their that's what what they don't demonstrate over be uh over by Biafra or Cambodia or North Korea or Congo or or uh or uh Darfur.
	They demonstrate over vacation time and what age they will retire.
	What age is pension time.
	That is what animates the socialist universe.
	It is a morally dead world.
	They they they can't fight evil.
	They couldn't even take care of uh of uh uh the Balkans.
	We had to rescue them in the Balkans.
	Forget all the other wars we had to rescue them.
	We are the force for good because we are still the the by far the most religious industrialized democracy.
	And as this Judeo-Christian value system and belief fades, so will the desire to fight evil.
	As I have said, I want my grandchildren to know that what that their grandfather fought evil, others' grandfathers fought carbon dioxide emissions.
	Lou, one second.
	Thank you.
	Hey, no, after the elections are over, Dennis and I are going to do a few gigs together, and I'm calling it ask a Jew.
	And I'm uh because I'm fascinated.
	If you've spent any time as I have with Dennis, he really does know his Torah uh right down to the fact we're playing Hearts on Sabbath on his back porch one day, and I said, Dennis, what is the Torah say about gambling?
	And the answer is nothing.
	Nothing.
	So my question is and he said, Go ahead.
	I was losing.
	So he said, get going.
	Could have said anything.
	And then this is rigorously fair.
	We were out on the road once in Philadelphia, and John Kerry, I thought I'd misquoted and said in the old testament something that was in the New Testament, and Dennis said, Oh no, it's right in the middle of Leviticus and quoted it for me.
	But the thing you've really got to know, and I think this is the division in the world right now, is something that he and Dershowitz got into an argument about at the uh Is it the New York City why?
	Where are we?
	Yeah, 92nd Street was.
	This is important.
	This is this is the difference.
	What are you referring to?
	Tell me.
	I don't even remember.
	Everybody believes in God.
	You and you and Dershowitz agreed.
	And then you said to him, but I believe he wrote it down in a book and he intends you to follow it.
	Oh, yes.
	Okay.
	The great this I wrote this for the LA Times a few years ago.
	This was a big quote-unquote revelation in my life.
	The big difference in America is not what those who believe in God and those who don't.
	There are enormous numbers of people on the left who believe in God.
	That's not the division.
	The division is those who believe in a divine scripture and those who don't.
	That's the difference.
	I have essentially identical values to Hugh and to religious Christians.
	We both believe in the divinity of, for example, the Torah.
	I felt in fact I tell Jewish audiences to whom I speak half the time, I'm very delighted that I do.
	Very, very delighted.
	And uh I say, you know, the day that as many Jews believe in the Torah as Christians do, the Messiah will come.
	I I touch I mean my wife has heard me too, except I say Mashiach, because Jews know it is Mashiach, and and you know, and and that's that's and and that you know they squirm in their seats.
	Well, it's you know, the Christians believe in the Torah.
	That's a problem.
	That's a problem.
	They don't.
	They do.
	All right, last question from You gotta come out to the Ask a Jew show.
	It's gonna be a good show.
	All right, one more of our scripted questions, and then we're going to um questions from the audience, which we've been collecting and I've been culling through as the night has gone on.
	Um the president Dennis has sounded a very uncertain trumpet when it comes to our war policy, especially our policy in Afghanistan.
	The policy seems to be surge and withdraw.
	So what long-term implications will this be?
	That's erotic.
	That is downright erotic.
	Surge and withdraw.
	Surge and withdraw.
	You never know.
	I tell you, these talk show hosts on Salem.
	Well, I just lost my job.
	I honestly did not think about it that way.
	What long-term implications...
	Ask a Jew.
	LAUGHTER I'm sorry, I was asking a question.
	Oh boy.
	The president has sound.
	The president has sounded a very uncertain trumpet when it comes to our policy in Afghanistan.
	What long-term implications will this have for our prospects for success in Afghanistan and the war on terror in general?
	This is an example of where you don't uh to me the issue is not left or right, it's common sense or no common sense.
	If you announce you will leave a war, why would the other side fight until you leave?
	I I I I no, I I it's it's frightening to me that that is not self-evident.
	If we had announced that in 1943, we are leaving Europe in 1944, no matter what.
	What what would what would Hitler have done?
	You would have, you know, he would have gone to Bertha's garden, planted some flowers, waited till 1944, and then taken over the rest of Europe.
	I I I I one marvels at this.
	Well uh you if you have a five-year-old child or grandchild, they would understand this.
	So I I have nothing more intelligent to say.
	That's the obvious message that is being sent.
	But I do want to say this.
	I I read poll after poll that uh that a majority of Americans are uh I don't know, uncomfortable or want to leave Afghanistan, uh and don't want an uh an uh a um what is the word, interminable stay, uh uh uh or indeterminate stay.
	I'm sorry, folks.
	It's not a television sitcom, it's not a television series, it is not a movie.
	If we have to be there to prevent that evil that took place on 9-11 and the continuing evil of women uh being stoned to death for showing an ankle or or uh or learning.
	Do you know they were killed?
	Girls were killed for studying well, then we do.
	And of course I get this all the time, and it's a perfectly legitimate answer.
	What is Dennis, who appointed us the world's policeman?
	And the answer really is we did, and the world did.
	Because every good person on earth knows that if they're in trouble and coming up the hill are American soldiers, they will be very, very thankful to to whatever they believe in.
	And that is the case.
	And by the way, this is where I differ entirely with the Libertarian Party.
	The Libertarian Party, who is superb on domestic issues, I can never join, never, because of their views on international affairs.
	Unless we are invaded, we don't fight anywhere.
	Well, maybe because largely libertarians are secular.
	So maybe they don't feel a divine compulsion to fight evil, the way in which a religious Jew and a religious Christian might.
	The Libertarian Party is not known for its religiosity.
	They're known for terrific, terrific things on domestic issues.
	They're brilliant.
	I have them on the on my show constantly for their insight into the economy and government.
	But when it comes to this issue, whether it's Rand Paul or whomever, well, if we're not attacked, what's not our business?
	Well, it is our business.
	We are the most blessed country in the history of the world.
	We are not blessed just to enjoy our own blessings.
	If we are the strongest country in the world, and there is terrible evil taking place, and we can do something about it, we can't always do something about it.
	So the argument, well, were you going to send troops everywhere?
	No.
	Obviously, you have to pick and choose.
	But if you not only are spectacularly evil, but also have done something to slaughter many of our people, well, then yes, we will stay there until we have to.
	We have troops in Korea since 1955.
	Why are Americans at peace with that?
	And by the way, I will tell you I made this offer many years ago.
	Whenever I see these despicable demonstrations in Korea against our troops, I wish we would have announced, and I and I meant this.
	Ladies and gentlemen of South Korea, every year we we see these parties uh that run whole parties in Korea run against American uh America and run against having our troops there.
	We will now we uh we ask you to have a plebiscite of the Korean people, of the South Korean people, and if you do not vote at least 60 40 to keep our troops there, we will leave.
	And then so it's put up or shut up.
	You really want us gone, we'll leave.
	And and if the the uh the sickos, the psychopaths of North Korea overrun you, you will recall that you voted to remove that protection.
	That's what I would have done.
	Lou, I gotta.
	We always do this earlier and neglected to do so.
	Uh any active duty military with us tonight if you'd stand up if anyone here, I didn't see anyone come in.
	And how about parents of active duty military?
	Any parents here tonight back here?
	Thank you so much for the service of your children.
	As the war goes on, and this the the Woodward book, which I will not buy, I don't I don't trust Woodward.
	Uh I don't believe him, but I do know that a lot of people have been corroborating certain parts of his account on the chaos inside the Obama administration when it comes to military policy.
	We have to keep reminding ourselves that Americans of extraordinary quality kept keep stepping up and volunteering to serve in the armed services to go and do this work.
	Because they realize and they hear a bell, they hear a call, uh, they have a vocation that is a very high calling, and they know that's their job.
	It's sort of like law enforcement people that go out every day knowing that it's a dangerous job that they do.
	There's a movie out there called Restrepo.
	I don't know if any of you have seen it yet.
	National Geographic documentary by the man who made uh the perfect storm, uh, Junger, I believe his name is.
	And he took his cameras out to a forward operating base in Afghanistan with these young American heroes who are out there at the far edge of the tip of the of the sword uh the spear protecting us.
	And as Dennis just mentioned, it's not our choice.
	It's their choice to defend us, but it's not our choice to fight this war.
	This war is going to go on, and it's gonna go on for as long as you and I are alive, and it's not there is no way to stop it because radical Islam is so deeply embedded and it's going to continue to try and do what it tried to do last month for as long as we are here.
	The only question is whether or not America is going to be cognizant of it and attempt to do the best That it can, relying upon its very best people to prevent that to provide that defense way forward for us, because it's not we don't have a choice.
	It's not something that's going to go away.
	They are not going anywhere.
	And if there's one thing that you can take away from all of the books and interviews that Dennis and I share over, whether it's Lawrence Wright, whether it's uh any of the number of people who have been writing for a decade now about this threat, it's not going away.
	Well, on that happy note, some questions from the audience.
	Uh first of all, and either one of you can take it, decide between the two of you.
	Uh first question from a member of the Redlands Tea Party Patriots.
	Are the media intentionally underplaying the significance of the enthusiasm gap?
	And I want to answer that, and the answer is yes.
	And here's why.
	Dennis and I know what it's like to go into work every day when the news is a hundred percent against the people you want to win.
	It's hard.
	Two thousand and eight and two thousand and six, but especially two thousand eight in the last month of the campaign.
	I get up in the morning, and I will never lie, like Dennis.
	I will never lie.
	I will not I said like Dennis, not unlike Dennis.
	Like Dennis, I will not make up stories.
	I will not misrepresent the facts.
	I will avoid things I don't want to talk about if I have to.
	And so I would look for a story, one story.
	Find me one race where a Republican is doing well.
	Find me one poll that I can talk about.
	Give me one glimmer of hope, because it's hard to get people to care or to motivate or to donate or to work or to make a phone call if they think they're doomed.
	And therefore, it's part of the balancing of democracy that you encourage your side even as you attempt to demoralize the other side.
	And this is just politics 101.
	Right now the other side is deeply demoralized.
	Not just because they're going to get whacked, but because they know they deserve it.
	They realize that their policies have been fully implemented and they have fully failed.
	And so there is an enormous enthusiasm gap.
	Numbers that we have never seen before in Gallup history since they began doing it in the post-war era, in terms of likely voter, heavy turnout, and likely voter low turnout scenarios.
	It's between 11 and 18 percent of Republican preference.
	The kind of numbers that and and a lot of the Democratic preferences because of geographical issues, heavily focused in some areas, they could get slaughtered.
	They could get absolutely slaughtered.
	And so what are we talking about?
	We're talking about foreign influence.
	That's why David Axelrod went on face the nation this weekend to bring up and cook up an entirely new attack.
	It's why President Obama and Joe Biden are out there cooking up these wild stories about Carl Rove and Ed Gillespie, because they've got to do something, anything, to try and charge up their base to at least turn out because they don't want to get out of bed.
	They are depressed.
	And we want them to be depressed.
	And our friends in the old media will do whatever.
	It's their last, it's it's almost a a f uh uh a charade of what they used to be, how they're attempting to manipulate the news.
	But this is there are two things that are going on.
	They are not covering the big story, which is the enthusiasm gap, and they are covering side show stories unless they don't like them.
	Last point on this.
	Gloria Alred shows up with a nightmare story.
	I had her on my show.
	How many of you heard Gloria on my show?
	All right.
	She hung up on me.
	It's one of three people have hung up on me.
	Helen Thomas, Ed Henry, and Gloria Alred.
	And I'm very glad to have had her hung up on me.
	She could not stand, she couldn't answer a single question about it.
	Nonsense story.
	Front page of the LA Times.
	I'm not bringing up to talk about Glory, front page of the LA Times.
	All over the nightly news.
	Flash forward a week.
	A tape of Jerry Brown is released, in which either Jerry Brown or a senior aide is heard referring to Med Wickman as a whore.
	This is a real story.
	This is a little bit of a window, not a complete picture by any means into how Jerry talks to his aides about his opponent, deeply offensive to many people.
	It's not what we expect out of our elected officials.
	On the day after the story appears, it is not on the front page of the Los Angeles Times.
	It is in the second section.
	On the Sunday, it is on the second section on the jump from the second section page.
	It is so deeply buried.
	Why is that?
	That is the last gasp of the old media attempting to again manipulate stories so that you don't see what will outrage you and you do see which will Hurt the Republican.
	But it doesn't work.
	It doesn't work because everybody knows everything because of the new media.
	We are all informed about the whore comment.
	We all know that Alred was talking out of her back pocket and had no idea what she was talking about and couldn't answer the questions.
	And we all know the enthusiasm gap exists, so it really doesn't matter, but it is being underplayed.
	The enthusiasm gap has a large effect on turnout, obviously, and that's important.
	And we have a proposition that would legalize marijuana basically here in the state of California on uh on the ballot, and I actually have a proposition to really help Republicans in California, maybe put Meg and some others over the top, which would be we implement that 24 hours before the election and make the marijuana free.
	And that would really depress left turnout.
	That's a great idea.
	They'll all be high.
	And then we can just repeal it again.
	Lou?
	Yeah.
	This is uh from my ask a Jew comment.
	Won't be any Doritos left.
	What does the Torah say about dope?
	I'm serious.
	I'm just curious.
	That you're a dope if you take it.
	Is it?
	Is it really?
	No, no, that's very interesting.
	The Torah specifically does not would not have a reference to it, however, the probably because it was not known to them at the time.
	But uh there is a from the first stories in the Torah, uh you have a real skepticism and worry about uh getting drunk.
	So it's obviously uh easily usable because you you get in a in a way uh drunk uh uh when you get high.
	You lose your your full cognizant uh uh uh cognif cognitive abilities.
	Uh and that first story is Noah.
	Uh Noah comes out of the ark and gets drunk, and clearly something sexual takes place within his family.
	And uh it happens it happens on a number of occasions.
	However, interestingly, uh, in case you're interested, I have no idea if you're at all interested in this, uh Judaism neither the Torah nor later Jewish law ever banned drinking.
	In fact, uh it is a mitzvah, which means commandment in Judaism to drink uh on the Sabbath and holy days.
	And what it did was it rendered drinking sacred.
	And uh my my what my one of my first books is uh is is uh two my first two books are on Judaism, and they're co-authored with my dear friend uh now Rabbi Joseph Telushkin, and uh we wrote in there uh when uh when Jews Jews stopped saying the benediction over wine, they started getting drunk.
	It taught Jews how to drink, because drunk Jews was very rare.
	You know, Jews uh in certain other types of problematic behavior was not rare.
	Uh but uh you know they were Jews in organized crime.
	I mean, you know, the usual stuff, a white-collar type crimes, but not drunk.
	It's very rare.
	Police chiefs would tell me that.
	Well, because the reason I bring this up, I think Prop 19 is a moral issue.
	It is I think it's very important.
	It hadn't gotten much attention.
	And I and people always bring up alcohol.
	But there's very different I don't think you can regulate the impact of dope in the way that you can regulate the impact on alcohol.
	I think you just alluded to this, is that it is possible to drink responsibly.
	It is not possible to be stoned responsibly.
	That's right.
	That's exactly right.
	Well, I I for people who call me up, I've had this exact question.
	Oh, come on, Dennis.
	What's the difference between alcohol and uh and and uh marijuana?
	Give me a break.
	I said, All right, so I'll ask you something.
	Would you like, would you prefer that the captain of your next flight come on stoned or having had a martini?
	I mean, there's no comparison.
	Again, it's all common sense.
	Of course, you can drink responsibly.
	You it's a great line, I will quote you.
	You can't get stoned responsibly.
	That would be a good thing.
	I'd rather he had a light beer.
	Yeah, no, no, I I I agree.
	I don't want him to have any of this.
	But but if I had to choose, they're not the same.
	They're not the same.
	How many of you are going to vote for 19?
	How many are uh uh please be honest with me?
	Because I'm very troubled by this because the polls say it could pass.
	How many in this crowd are going to vote for Prop 19 to legalize?
	How many are going to vote against it?
	You see, it's going to be very it's a it's a very important thing.
	How many want to beat up the two people who uh said that they wanted to vote?
	It's a generational thing, but it's a bad it's a bad thing for the state.
	All right, final question from the audience, then we're gonna get to your closing comments, John.
	Now, by the way, you are gonna see on YouTube tomorrow, Prager tells 400 conservatives in in in California to beat up people who are voting for the isn't that what you said?
	Uh Again, either one of you.
	How confident are you?
	And this is a very important question.
	Whoever asked is right on point.
	Patrick of Riverside.
	How confident are you that the Republican Party will stick to their principles after the election?
	You take it.
	I'm curious to hear your answer.
	I told Hugh I'm I'm curious to hear his answer.
	I am not confident.
	I have interviewed Leader Boehner.
	I have interviewed uh Whip Cantor, I have interviewed Paul Ryan, I have interviewed Kevin McCarthy, I have spent lots of time with David Dreyer.
	And they are all serious conservatives.
	They are all committed to doing the right thing.
	Within the Republican caucus on the Hill, there are long-serving members who are not committed to the same politics that are driving the Tea Party.
	Those long-serving members will have to be persuaded or pushed aside.
	And they're not even necessarily rhinos.
	They are, however, uh in love with the old way.
	And the old way used to be this.
	When I I was never a deficit hawk, I've got to be honest with you.
	If GDP, if deficits were below 3% of GDP, I did not care.
	I didn't care about pork.
	I've always assumed I was in the Reagan White House, and we were running a GDP uh a deficit up to six percent in the Reagan buildup in order to take on the Soviet Union.
	I didn't care about it.
	I've always believed that you can run a responsible 3% deficit and not even worry about it.
	The times have changed, and the Republicans have to change with it.
	Now, there will be a struggle immediately after, and that struggle will be dispositive if we win back the House.
	And I was assured last week by some senior ranking Republicans that the battle lines are already drawn and that the numbers will be there to demand rapid action.
	However, if they do not deliver, and this is what uh keeps me awake a little bit at night, the the people will desert the Republican Party.
	They will not get a third chance.
	This will be their second chance.
	And they will have been slapped around in 19 in 2006 and 2008 badly, part of it because of the war, part of it because of spending.
	And if they do not get it right, if they think they have time, they will be punished, and we will lose in 2012.
	President Obama will be re-elected if we do not deliver and if we do not join the fight and in a principled, constructive, persistent, consistent way make the arguments about why we have to shut down the government, why we have to go hard on Obamacare.
	They must fight that battle because we're not working this hard.
	I'm sure the people in this room have done Tea Party.
	You did not stand in the heat, you did not give up your money, you did not give up your weekends, so that the Republicans could go back and negotiate a 50 to 50 percent compromise with Nancy Pelosi.
	did not do that That was great.
	Closing comments, gentlemen.
	Isn't he terrific?
	I mean it.
	He really is.
	I'm gonna give you a closing comment, not on America.
	I want to give you a closing comment on Talk Radio.
	Okay?
	Seriously.
	Because you can hear me talk about America on the radio, but this you're not gonna hear me talk about on the radio.
	Uh first you should know uh that we're very blessed.
	We actually really, really enjoy and respect our colleagues.
	Whether it's, you know, we we go we go on these things, we have a particularly wonderful chemistry, but Michael Medvit's terrific and Bill Bennett's terrific.
	And we we have uh we have a number of people, uh not just they who are who are terrific.
	And we're very proud of them, and we're very proud of what talk radio has done.
	Uh, because uh as some Europeans have told me on the air, if we had talk radio in Europe, the world would be a different place.
	They have no talk radio in Europe.
	None.
	Radio is controlled by the by the state.
	You get a journalist license, or you don't do a damn thing.
	Not in written form, and not in radio form, and not in TV form.
	And so it doesn't matter if you're watching German TV, Italian TV, or French TV, you get the exact same take on the world.
	A take that is so sick that Europeans uh in polls think that the United States is the most dangerous country in the world except for Israel.
	Israel and the United States are the most dangerous countries.
	North Korea is ranked below in terms of danger.
	Even Iran is ranked below.
	That is how sick and skewed the news is.
	But that's how it would be for the f in the United States without talk radio.
	So I I'm telling you this not to to pat ourselves on the head.
	It's it's actually patting America on the head.
	That's that we have such freedom that anybody can own a radio station and do whatever he wants.
	Most of it is junk.
	But some of it is just so precious as this ability to have intelligent people giving you an alternate view to what you had in college.
	An alternate view to what's on CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, PBS, NPR, and so on.
	That's a very big deal, what what has happened in the United States.
	And to give you an idea, this this I don't know if you know this story.
	You know most of my stories.
	I thought very seriously of running against Barbara Boxers six years ago.
	And I actually started a committee and so on, and I met in LA.
	This is very important, you understand, in LA at a very, very wealthy office building.
	I met with a very leading California Republican.
	The man did not know who I was.
	Now, believe me, I have a very healthy ego.
	I don't expect to be known by everybody, period.
	End of issue, even in LA.
	But for one of the heads of the California Republican Party in living in LA not to know who I was, that is staggering.
	That is how out of touch Republican leadership is with America and with their own people.
	If there's anybody that the Republicans should know, it's talk radio.
	Now they do, by the way.
	That's why they're all coming on our show, and absolutely, it's a different world now.
	But it gives you an idea of what there was.
	I'm telling you this so you will appreciate what goes on because it's very easy.
	There's a s there's a saying in Oregon, you don't know how tall a tree is until it's felled.
	I don't want people to appreciate talk radio once it's disappeared.
	So I I need to tell you you need to support us.
	And you support us in a very simple way.
	You simply uh patronize our sponsors.
	Okay?
	You're gonna have to get the X product somewhere, you're gonna have to have Y product somewhere, get them from our sponsors.
	They keep us on the air.
	And it's been a very hard time for radio, been a very hard time for newspapers, very hard time for TV, uh it's because of because of the recession and because of the internet.
	So it's just something you should be aware of.
	And as I began, I said with the mutual appreciation, I'll just end with this.
	There's never an issue.
	We've never, we have been on panels all over America now for years.
	And it's only fun for us.
	It really is.
	We enjoy each other immensely.
	A, there's not uh not a shred of competition, not one iota.
	We're we're all in it for the ideals.
	Secondly, we respect each other, and third, we all have different strengths.
	Utterly.
	There are things you can talk about eloquently that I would stammer, and it's the truth, and I know that.
	His his uh his encyclopedic take on American political life is awesome to me, is awesome.
	I mean, he knows what you know, ex-candidate in in Idaho had for breakfast.
	I mean, the guy's amazing.
	I have I have other strengths, the large issues.
	Why is this happening?
	Explaining what the battles are about.
	That's why people can listen, by the way, all day to us hosts.
	If you if we all repeated each other, anybody would get bored.
	Michael Medved brings his unique take onto these issues.
	Bill Bennett brings his, Gallagher brings his, and so on.
	So it's a very blessed thing that we do.
	And we we I do believe that every day we go to work thinking how blessed we are to have to have this job.
	I can't think of anything more exciting, wonderful, and uh uh I you hear my enthusiasm every day.
	I mean, you also hear when I get down because of of events in the world and events in America.
	Um I'm real.
	But every day I'm excited.
	I never think, oh no, another day to broad.
	I never ever think that.
	It doesn't occur to me.
	It's it's it's fun, it's exciting, it's interesting, and that pulls you into, And then uh in my own life with my unique stuff of a happiness hour, and you know, you know the letters I get, I show my wife, I mean, people on the male female hour, people say to me things they would not tell anyone in their lives.
	They send me letters like that.
	You know, uh, you know, let me tell you about about my sex life with my wife.
	Let me tell I'm serious.
	No, I'm dead serious.
	Opening up in ways that you know sometimes make you want to cry.
	And I appreciate that.
	I am real.
	I when when people open up like that to me, I'm very touched.
	I wish I could respond to every letter, but I try to read every letter at least.
	And this is a very powerful blessing, this talk radio thing.
	And um we're grateful to you because if you don't listen, well then we do other things for a living.
	He has an alternate.
	Uh I I would conduct regional orchestras at you know, $200 a gig.
	You know, because Haydn doesn't pay as well as uh as world affairs.
	But no, I mean I would figure out something else.
	But anyway, I just wanted you to know about us, about this work, and about the importance of your helping through the sponsors.
	Thank you for being here tonight as a blessing.
	Thank you.
	I am uh I'm gonna pick up on a couple things Dennis said um in the back room afterwards.
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	And uh there are twenty five targeted districts in the United States, or fifty-two targeted districts, like uh Harry Reid's the King of Diamonds, etc.
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	If you are at all interested, they're in the back on your way out.
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	That defends not just the Salem hosts, but every talk radio host in America, because we know the left wants to shut us down.
	And uh they will try any way they can, because we have been a devil in their side, uh a thorn in their side from the beginning of the Obama administration because we speak the truth, and we do so without fear, and we do so without favor.
	And I I want to pick up on just two things that that Dennis said.
	One, uh the left does not honestly engage in argument any more.
	It's very rare to find a liberal who will come on the air, and you may have to pick up on me after this.
	They won't come on with us.
	Uh that it's not because we're that much smarter, uh, although in some instances we are.
	And uh and it's not usually because we're better read, because in many instances they wrote the book that we have only casually read, but it's because their arguments don't hold up.
	They really cannot respond to basic factual assertions about the way that the world works.
	As Dennis pointed out earlier, in the 20th century, the toll and humankind from secular atheist constructs was so vastly greater than all of recorded human history.
	That's a hard thing to refute because it just happens to be true.
	So they're not arguing us with us anymore.
	They won't even come on the programs to talk to us, and when they do, they do not do well, which tells us why we've got to stay doing this and why I thank you for supporting KTIE, KRLA, and our sponsors.
	We love doing this.
	But the ideas that would not get out, the books that would not be known, the authors about whom you would never have heard, the stories that would never have been told but for your support of the stations is why I love to do it.
	I also have to miss just tell you I love this job so much.
	Next week, next week I'm gonna interview two authors.
	One of them is Vince Flynn.
	How many of you like Mitch Rap, right?
	All right, Mitch Rapp.
	Sold about a hundred million books.
	Last week I talked to Ken Follett, and uh and I love talking to these people who who who create all day long and do and I love to introduce them to you and try and ask the questions.
	But I'm also gonna talk next week to Dr. Condoleez Rice.
	And Dr. Rice, I thought I knew something.
	Do you know anything about her?
	Yeah.
	Her memoir.
	You know where she grew up?
	Birmingham, Alabama.
	On the day that the four little girls were killed in Birmingham, Alabama, she was two miles away in her father's church when the explosion racked Birmingham.
	And at the end of this memoir, I put this memoir down, it's the first half of her memoir, and I think I am I'm ashamed that I did not know and tell America more about this extraordinary woman.
	And that's what we get to do.
	We do it over and over again.
	That's our job.
	Our mission is really, in the words of Alex Haley, the great African American novelist who wrote Rutz, it's on his tombstone, find the good and praise it.
	And we do that a lot.
	And we love to do that, and it's because of your allowing us to do that.
	So thank you for coming out tonight.
	Thank you, Lou, for doing a marvelous job hosting it, and thank you for supporting KTIE.
	Dennis, you're gonna there's an encore in there somewhere.
	Visit Prager University too.
	There you go.
	And before before we all go, and thank you again for everyone for being here tonight and supporting our event here for KTIE.
	And thank you, of course, to our great guests here tonight, Dennis Prager and Hugh Hewitt.
	Thank you, Mr. Prager.
	Thank you, Mr. Prager.
	Thank you.
	Thank you.
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