Dennis Prager Show - Gender Denying Care
Aired: 2025-09-21
Duration: 05:37

[00:00:00]  Dr. Miriam Grossman is my guest.
[00:00:03]  She is a child and adolescent psychiatrist in New York City.
[00:00:08]  And given her views, living in New York City does entail some level of masochism.
[00:00:13]  But for me to psychoanalyze a psychiatrist takes Chutba.
[00:00:18]  I have to say.
[00:00:19]  Bet you you never got an introduction like that, Miriam Grossman.
[00:00:27]  Yeah, that's...
[00:00:29]  But it look, what am I gonna say?
[00:00:31]  You're in New York City, you're a conservative psychiatrist.
[00:00:35]  Not exactly a large community of you.
[00:00:40]  Is that fair?
[00:00:41]  There's more than you might think.
[00:00:43]  Even in New York City.
[00:00:45]  Underground, underground.
[00:00:48]  Underground.
[00:00:48]  That is hilarious.
[00:00:50]  But you're speaking me from above ground, hopefully.
[00:00:53]  Her most recent book is Lost in Transnation.
[00:00:56]  I had her on for that, a child psychiatrist guide out of the uh out of the what is it?
[00:01:02]  Out of the madness.
[00:01:03]  Yes, out of the madness, yes.
[00:01:06]  All right.
[00:01:06]  So we're talking today about uh talking about madness.
[00:01:12]  So let me get this clear.
[00:01:13]  Yes, it's on their what website, right?
[00:01:16]  The American Psychiatric Association, another group for my listeners, they're ruined by the left.
[00:01:22]  American Psychiatric Association publishing gender affirming psychiatric care, edited by Teddy Get M D and MS. What's MS?
[00:01:35]  Masters in Science?
[00:01:36]  What is MS?
[00:01:37]  Okay.
[00:01:38]  And Alex Kiroglian, MD.
[00:01:42]  By the way, are you familiar with either one, Dr. Getz or Dr. Caroglian?
[00:01:47]  Well, I don't know them personally, but I looked at their resumes.
[00:01:52]  And I hope they both went to Harvard Medical School.
[00:01:57]  Well, the first author uh is actually uh only a first or second year resident in psychiatry.
[00:02:06]  So really that's fascinating.
[00:02:09]  She has very limited experience, certainly as a doctor and as a psychiatrist, very limited.
[00:02:17]  Um and the second author, I believe is at is in Boston, um and is a well-known gender activist.
[00:02:27]  So this textbook that you mentioned, gender-affirming psychiatric care, I'm sure that most of your audience knows that so-called gender-affirming care means that if, for example, a girl comes into my office and she declares she's a boy, I must rubber stamp that identity.
[00:02:46]  Uh and this is regardless of her age or whatever other mental health challenges she may have.
[00:02:54]  So that's gender-affirming care.
[00:02:59]  Uh forgive me one second.
[00:03:00]  Don't don't will will you promise me you'll remember what you wanted to say?
[00:03:04]  Because I just want to comment for one second on the title.
[00:03:08]  The title is Orwellian.
[00:03:10]  It's a gender-denying care.
[00:03:13]  Yes, I was just about to say that gender-affirming care demands us doctors and therapists that we endorse a delusion.
[00:03:23]  And so that's the first thing that's problematic.
[00:03:27]  But the second thing is that there's no quality evidence that it even helps patients in the long run.
[00:03:34]  And that's why numerous European countries have rejected gender-affirming care.
[00:03:40]  Now, Dennis, we psychiatrists depend on the APA for evidence-based guidance.
[00:03:47]  And so do doctors and many other specialties, psychologists, social workers, school guidance counselors.
[00:03:53]  So we're talking about a massive number of medical and mental health professionals.
[00:03:59]  It's a very big deal that the APA is promoting their book, this book, as an essential textbook.
[00:04:08]  Because if you open it up to practically any page, you see that it is anything but that.
[00:04:16]  And what it is is a political manifesto.
[00:04:20]  Everything, Dennis, is seen through the lens of social injustice.
[00:04:25]  It's all about victims and oppressors.
[00:04:29]  And I Could be here for a long time with you with examples.
[00:04:32]  I'll just give you a few.
[00:04:34]  For example, this book says that psychiatry and psychology have perpetuated the oppression of youth that they describe as transgender, nonbinary, and or gender expansive.
[00:04:50]  They say, Dennis, that people like you and I who don't feel disembodied, who don't deny or struggle against the material reality of our bodies, they had to create a new category for people like us, so they call us cisgender.
[00:05:08]  So they say that cisgender people are in power and that we prevent the access to quality medical care to the oppressed minority of gender distressed youth.
[00:05:22]  So it goes on and on.
[00:05:24]  All right, good.
[00:05:25]  You'll give me more examples.
[00:05:26]  I'm speaking to Dr. Miriam Grossman, a psychiatrist in New York City, and the latest horror from the American Psychiatric Association.