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Sept. 20, 2025 - Dennis Prager Show
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Charlie Kirk on The Dennis Prager Show in 2020
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That's correct.
Even the living martyr is nodding.
You don't understand.
That is like a passionate thing from him.
All right.
Okay.
The MAGA doctrine is coming out.
It's Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk, who founded, created ex nihilo in almost a divine manner, he created Turning Point USA.
How many, how many people are how many young people are affiliated now?
Hundreds of thousands.
Hundreds of thousands.
Activists.
Out of nothing, out of nothing, hundreds of thousands of college kids.
It it doesn't go to high school, correct?
We have high school and college.
Oh, so do we.
Oh, good.
So good.
All right.
College and high school.
I could spend three hours with you just, I'm serious.
Talking about what's happening.
It's really in effect what you're doing, what we're doing, but especially you on the on the ground.
I have no problem in saying that.
Uh, versus the the universities themselves.
Do you know the University of Montana story?
About the Martin Luther King essay?
No, I do not know that.
No, no, no.
You can't know everything.
Uh this is my job.
You the but this is an example.
Uh I wonder if you have University of Montana turning to the United States.
We do.
We have a chapter there, yes.
You do.
You want to contact them, and I would even like to talk to them on the air, maybe.
So very in a nutshell, the the African Studies Department, or Black Studies Department, I don't remember the name, uh sponsors an essay for Martin Luther King Day, which we just had.
Uh write an essay on the legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King.
So essays were submitted, and they posted the winners.
This is again the black studies department.
The winners were four white girls.
They were called racist for the whites winning the Martin Luther King essay.
Two points, Charlie, and then I want to get your reaction.
Number one, it's the University of Montana, which reflects Montana, where there are very few blacks.
Number two, no blacks submitted an essay.
Is that awesome?
And they were called racist.
Now, as I've pointed out, if only blacks won they would be called racist because no whites submitted an essay.
Well in the obvious is Martin Luther King's most famous quote is he cared would care more about someone's character than the color of their skin.
That is only quoted by conservatives now.
Yes.
No, no, but yes.
And and reading your book, Dennis, was a revelation to me.
Still the last the best hope.
Where you said leftism is a religion.
Right.
And I never analyzed it that way.
Oh, it's running very important.
But it's if people have to look at leftism as an institutionalized belief system that is similar to organized religion.
They evangelize, they worship the welfare state, and racial division is paramount in the leftist religion.
And your book was very instructive.
Well, thank you.
Thank you.
He's one of the few authors.
No, that is a statement about the character of Charlie Kirk.
No, but it's true.
It is true.
It's a great book.
So is yours.
It's just coming out.
I have it in my hand.
Very few people do, because it's not out yet.
But you could pre-order it on Amazon.
The MAGA doctrine, the only ideas that will win the future.
And if anybody it's up at Dennis Prager.com.
If anybody knows ideas that will win the future, it's you because you are working with the future, young people.
Is this your first book?
Uh no, it's it's my third.
The other two were uh somewhat successful, but I think this one will this one I I spent the most amount of time on, the most energy, and I think is the most timely of the.
Of the ideas, there are about 15 of them here?
More or less.
Yeah.
So give me your do you have a favorite or are they all tied for first?
Um yeah, the one I I do want to talk about is I I think we're more and more divided between the ruling class and the working class in our country, and and recognizing the two-tiered justice system that exists, and we we see that, and the president has exposed that large in part.
But but also the Republican Party and the conservative movement becoming a party, and Dennis, I know you'll appreciate this, that appreciates people that shower before work and after work, the trades, the carpentry, electricians, plumbers that you don't have to go to four-year college to succeed.
And what I talk about in one of the chapters of the book is through public polling, you see the media basically characterize America for us without us even realizing it.
What's your approval of the president?
College educated and non-college educated.
What are they really saying?
Here's what smart people think, and here's what dumb people think.
The media is already organizing us into two different buckets.
When in reality, I think the people that didn't go to college might actually have more wisdom than the people that went to four-year university.
Part of the president's doctrine, though, is more likely to back to these people.
And dignity.
That's correct.
And that's I think that's one of the things that we're going to do.
That's correct.
Because he uh he is stripping the elite of their elititude.
That's really why they hate him.
I completely agree.
And it's actually it's built on vapor.
There there's there's nothing elite about the individuals that have been making bad decisions for our society over the last 40 years, except going to the same Ivy League schools, you know, recirculating the same bad ideas.
And I think the president has been a phenomenal disruptor in this regard, and something we can learn from.
And again, bringing dignity to communities that did predominantly didn't even vote for him.
For example, the black community.
He's delivered more for the black community than any president in well over a hundred years.
And especially watching the black vote more than any other single thing in in the in the in the November election.
Uh on pure interest grounds.
It's hard for me to believe that he will not make inroads.
And I'm not an optimist by nature, believe it or not.
I'm a happy man, but I'm not an optimist.
It's just it's I'm I'm odd in that way because people think optimists, but that's a separate issue.
But I just want to give credibility to what I'm saying.
If I'm not an optimist, then I think that.
Do you think that?
Yes, and Candace Owens deserves a ton of credit for this.
And you know, Candace does great work with Prager You, and she worked with us for a couple of years.
That's right.
And she kind of st she she deserves credit for having the courage for starting what's now become thousands and thousands of black influencers that are standing up in their communities.
I think so.
I I I do believe that.
Anyway, uh why would a black believe he's a racist?
It's such a bizarre notion.
Or anti-Semite or any of that.
Charlie's book, The MAGA doctrine, the only ideas that will win the future.
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