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Wow.
That is high praise indeed, coming from the great Dennis Prager.
I am honored to sit in for Dennis once again.
And so glad that you can be with us.
I am live in the ReliefFactor.com studios of AM 1420 The Answer.
You know where that is because Dennis just told you I'm a Cleveland broadcaster.
And that is correct.
Honored.
I always love the opportunity, especially now that we are just 13 days away from deciding whether we save.
No.
That's not accurate.
It's too late to save America.
Can we recover it?
Can we restore it?
That's what we're going to be trying to do.
Saving is when something is on the precipice and life and death is the choice.
Can I stop it from dying?
I feel like it's already been killed over the last 21 months by full control Democrat rule.
It's already gone.
The question is, can we resurrect it?
Can we restore it?
On November 8th, 13 days from now.
Or are we going to lose it forever?
And those, my friends, are not exaggerations.
Those are not hyperbolic statements.
Those are not melodramatic for the purpose of firing people up and feeding red meat to the base.
It's really not.
It is every bit as serious as that.
Two weeks from yesterday, we will decide whether we resurrect the country and restore it to its foundational principles as a constitutional republic with freedom and justice for all, or whether we surrender every single bit of that to radical extremists whose intention or whether we surrender every single bit of that to radical extremists whose intention is to destroy America and rebuild it into
A Marxist, socialist slash Marxist nation of oppression in which big government rules all and you lose all of your liberties.
That's the reality of the situation, my friends.
How about that for a start to a broadcast?
How about that?
We're all going to die.
No, legitimately, we have a chance to restore our country, and that's exactly what we're going to be talking about for the majority of this program.
We do have one guest coming up at the top of the next hour, because I want to spend a little bit of time in each of the states where the most important Senate and gubernatorial races are being held.
The battleground state, one of them is here in Ohio.
We've got a massively important Senate race, as Rob Portman has decided to hang it up.
And, of course, it's now a battle between J.D. Vance and Tim Ryan.
That's a huge race.
It's a tight race.
Last night we saw the Fetterman-Oz fiasco in Pennsylvania.
That is massively important.
Last time I sat in for Dennis, I talked to a lot of folks from Pennsylvania about that race.
I hope to talk to more of them today.
I mentioned we have a guest coming up at the top of the second hour, and that's going to be Patrick Wood, who is the founder and the executive director of Citizens for Free Speech based in Tucson, Arizona.
We're going to talk to him about Blake Masters and Mark Kelly, and of course about Carrie Lake and the cowardly Katie Hobbs out there, what that means.
Talk about some First Amendment issues there as well.
They battled last night in New York as well.
Lee Zeldin.
And Kathy Hochul for the governor's race there.
Gretchen Whitmer and Tudor Dixon in Michigan also held a debate.
So all of this stuff is extremely important to talk about as we decide whether we're going to lose the republic or whether we're going to restore it.
I don't normally start with audio clips in the first segment of a broadcast.
I like to do what's known as a monologue in the business and kind of just lay out all of my thoughts on one thing or another or multiple things.
But since I have this audio that says it better than I can say it, and I read that somewhere once, don't say it yourself if somebody else already said it better.
Just use their stuff.
I had Ted Cruz on my local program in Cleveland on Friday, a senator from Texas.
Shout out to my friends in Texas.
Particularly a shout out to my friends in Houston, where I also do a little bit of radio.
But I had Ted Cruz on Friday, and I had him on because he was in Ohio, and he was campaigning for and working with J.D. Vance for that Senate seat that I just discussed.
And I kind of laid out a little bit of how I feel about the importance of this election in Ohio, because it's no more nor less important than the other battleground races.
Don't get me wrong, but it's where we are, and we were here to talk about J.D. Vance, or he was on to talk about J.D. Vance.
I kind of laid out the whole, you know, we're either going to die or we're going to, as a nation, or we're going to restore this nation on November 8th, and it's really literally as important as survival of the country.
And I asked Ted Cruz to comment on that, and his response was more than I could have imagined.
So it's about two minutes long, and I want you to hear it, because I think it's going to be a good launching point for your phone calls, which, by the way, you should be making now.
Get in line.
It's going to be a busy day.
877-243-7776, otherwise known as 8Prager776.
So get in line now from whatever state you're in and talk about your battleground state.
I'm very much looking forward to hearing from you on those.
But I want to let you hear what Ted Cruz had to say.
It's not just about the Ohio race.
It's about the reality of everything that is...
You know, that is in store for us if we are unsuccessful in Ohio and in enough other races to give the Democrats a majority control in the United States Senate.
So please listen to this and give me your reactions to it on the other side.
We will not survive.
This country will never look the same as it did when it was gifted to us by our founding fathers.
Am I overstating that?
You know, you're not, and if possible, you may be understating it.
And let me give you what the stakes are here in Ohio.
If, God forbid, the Democrats won in Ohio, if the Democrats pick up two seats in the Senate, and winning in Ohio would be 50% of picking up two seats in the Senate, that would be enough to end the filibuster.
Right now, there's 48 Democrats who voted to end the filibuster.
If they get two more, they'll have the votes to do it.
What will they do if they end the filibuster?
The first bill they'll pass is S-1.
It's the first bill Chuck Schumer introduced.
It is a federal takeover of all elections.
It strikes down every common-sense voter integrity law across the country.
It strikes down photo ID requirements.
It strikes down prohibitions on ballot harvesting.
It automatically registers millions of illegal aliens to vote.
It mandates that felons be allowed to vote.
That bill is designed to ensure that Democrats never lose another election.
The second thing they will do is grant amnesty to 12 million or more illegal aliens to have suddenly voters that they believe will vote Democrat forever.
The third thing they will do is add two new states to the union, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico, both of which they believe will elect four new Democrat senators.
The next thing they will do is pack the U.S. Supreme Court and put four radical left-wing justices on the court forever.
All of that, we're two votes away from that happening.
I don't believe that's going to happen.
But if God forbid it did, I am constitutionally, I am structurally an optimist.
I believe in America.
But I don't know how America comes back from that.
I actually believe that would be the destruction of the republic.
And so you want to know what the stakes are in Ohio?
Offense, it's about winning and taking our country back.
But on defense, it's about stopping cultural Marxists who are trying to destroy this nation from having the tools to complete the task.
I've been a Ted Cruz fan for a long time.
In fact, he was my first choice in 2016 in the massive primary field that included President Trump.
Well, then-candidate Trump, you know, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Carly Fiorina, Ben Carson.
Remember that?
That was quite a time.
I was a massive Ted Cruz fan.
So I felt very, very good when I asked Ted Cruz a question, and he not only answered in the affirmative as to the way I feel, he actually expanded upon it.
If we lose on November 8th, the country dies.
Not an overstatement.
Not an exaggeration.
The country dies for all of the reasons he just listed, or he did on my program on Friday.
I had forgotten, I'll be 100% honest, and it's to my shame, I had forgotten about Senate Bill 1 and H.R. 1, the For the People Act that they put forth, which is the federal takeover of all elections.
No longer...
Would the states, as the Constitution dictated, as the founders intended, be allowed to set their own election rules?
It would be a federal takeover.
Gone would be voter ID, any voter ID. Gone would be any restrictions on drop boxes or mail-in balloting.
Gone would be anything that is done to ensure that only citizens vote.
All of those things would be gone, and as Ted Cruz described, They would do it if they just get 52 senators.
52. That's it.
52. And they can abolish the filibuster and pass every single one of those massive things with a simple majority.
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About the time this show was coming on, literally 22 minutes ago, at the top of the hour, this came down.
Daryl Brooks, the Waukesha Christmas Parade murderer, was found guilty.
First-degree intentional homicide in that massacre.
You know, I don't want to say it's received no coverage, but this was a Christmas parade murder, so we're talking 10 months ago, Christmas of 2021, when this angry, violent, criminal man, 40-year-old Daryl Brooks, assaulted his girlfriend.
Then climbed into his SUV and plowed through that Christmas parade of almost exclusively white people.
There's a reason I brought that up.
Intentionally, according to the eyewitnesses and the prosecutors, swerving and veering to maximize the number of people he could hit.
He didn't plow straight ahead, giving people at least a chance to dive out of the way.
He targeted.
And swerved and hit as many of them as he could.
Killed six people.
Injured about 70 more.
He has been convicted of first degree murder after representing himself and turning this entire thing into a show trial.
It's just been a circus.
He represented himself.
He continually threatened the judge.
The media coverage of this...
It has been interesting to say the least.
The media coverage of the Daryl Brooks trial at the outset was almost sympathetic to Daryl Brooks, a black man who ran down about 70 white people.
The headlines, and maybe you saw those online or maybe you actually saw them on newscasts, the headlines were, defendant gives tearful opening statement.
Not wild, radical, alleged murderer of six people and injuring with an attempt to murder 70 others gives ridiculous opening statement, but gives tearful opening statement.
It almost looked and sounded like they were attempting to generate some sort of sympathy for him.
A little bit of empathy at the very least.
Can't you imagine being in his situation kind of a thing?
It's really remarkable.
But the reason I call it interesting, the media coverage of this, is prior to the start of the trial, I want to ask you, how many times have you heard the name Daryl Brooks over the course of the ten months since Christmas?
The answer is not at all.
Very few.
They haven't covered it.
Now, can you imagine if this was a white guy, particularly if it was a white guy who happened to be considered to be a Republican, Running down in a black community, a massive parade of almost exclusively black people?
Can you imagine the kind of coverage that would have received?
You didn't even remember the name of Daryl Brooks, did you?
I promise you, you don't remember the name of the North Dakota driver who ran down an 18-year-old kid just a month ago and has been charged with murder.
Who was set free on a very, very low bond because he didn't want to have his life and his work and his family life altered by his murder trial.
But he allegedly ran down the 18-year-old and killed him because he was, quote, a Republican extremist.
You don't even know his name, do you?
And to underscore my point about how little that has been covered, I don't either.
I've got to look it up.
Every time I bring this up on my radio program, I've got to look it up.
Why is it that when the targets are the wrong color or the wrong political ideology, the media goes dark?
Why do they just go completely silent on these extraordinary cases?
And by the way, the fact that Daryl Brooks mowed all of those people down in Waukesha, Wisconsin on Christmas in a car or in an SUV rather than taking...
What they like to call an assault rifle to the crowd had to be extraordinarily disappointing to the media.
No opportunity to blame the weapon and say, we need to get these guns out of Americans' hands to stop these murders and to stop these mass attacks.
I haven't heard Joe Biden call for some sort of restriction on assault SUVs.
I haven't heard them talking about registrations where they're going to come and check your garage, and if you've got one of those assault SUVs, it's being confiscated because somebody else might use a similar type vehicle in a homicidal attack.
They haven't done that.
Kind of odd, isn't it?
Because if it had been a gun, they'd be coming to your house and saying, you've got to surrender your gun because somebody else might use a similar type of gun in another place in an attack.
That's the sense that it makes.
I just see stories like this, and they just rattle my brain.
First of all, nobody's talking about the race of the attacker and the race of the victims because it goes in the wrong direction.
That's number one.
And number two, again, when they did cover this at the very end at the trial, they tried to actually generate sympathy for the killer.
It's really quite an astounding thing, the way our media works.
It really is.
So I don't want to dwell on that too much, but I welcome your thoughts on it if you've got any.
If you want to dial us up at 877-243-7776 or 8Prager776.
I do find it very interesting that if this had been, like I said, a white driver in a black neighborhood with a black crowd of victims, 70 victims, oh my goodness.
And Trump would be blamed for it, of course.
I'm not going to blame anybody for it except for the individual here.
But you know how the story would read if the races were in another direction.
Same thing with the North Dakota story.
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34 minutes past the hour, and welcome back to the Dennis Prager Show.
Bob Franz sitting in for Dennis, live in the ReliefFactor.com studios of AM 1420, The Answer.
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It airs, well, right before this one, from 9 until noon every day in the Eastern Time Zone.
And if you ever want to check it out, I'm at W... W-H-K-Radio.com.
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We do our thing here.
That's where the interview I did with Ted Cruz came from that I played for you before.
If you'd like to react, by all means, please do so.
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I have so much information I want to cover.
And we're going to hear next segment, Supreme Court Justice Sam Alito.
Laying out the facts about how dangerous the Democrat Party is and how dangerous the far-left movement is in this country.
Literally life and death stuff that Sam Alito was talking about.
We'll get into that.
For now, though, we're going to go to the phones.
We're going to go to Atlanta, Georgia, and talk to Sam.
You're on the Dennis Prager Show.
Sam, thanks for joining us.
Bob Fran sitting in.
Go right ahead.
Thanks for taking my call.
Hey, Bob.
Thanks for taking my call.
My pleasure.
I get it.
Let me say that defeating Democrats is important.
You know, I get it.
They are totally evil.
The things that they do, the things they say, it's just unacceptable.
I don't know any other clean word to use.
It's just unacceptable.
But I remember the second time Obama was elected, the late, great Rush Limbaugh.
I listened to him every day back then.
And he would say, you know, if we don't defeat Obama, you know, we're going to lose America.
We're going to lose what we are.
We're going to lose this, that, and the other.
And here we are, you know, and I'm thinking to myself, we're still America.
We're a little different.
We still have problems.
But, you know, America wasn't lost, you know, as, you know, he thought he was going to be.
Well, let me respond to that, Sam, by pointing something out.
And you make a great point, by the way.
So I'm not trying to disagree with you, except maybe expand that thought a little bit.
Rush was right.
Rush was right.
And what I mean by that is re-electing Obama wasn't necessarily going to lead to the end of America by the end of Obama's term.
It was going to be the beginning of the end of America in the long game that they had planned.
And that plan was supposed to include four years of or actually eight years of Hillary Clinton continuing the same platform and continuing with the same policies and continuing with the same destructive laws and spending measures and so forth.
And then it was going to continue after that.
What we experienced was a hiccup.
And that was Donald Trump.
Donald Trump came in out of nowhere, which is why I don't care how much you may dislike Donald Trump's personality or anything about him, we will be forever indebted to him for delaying and stopping.
Nobody else could have done it.
I told you, I was a Ted Cruz fan back in the 2016 primaries.
Ted Cruz couldn't have beat Hillary in a general election.
I found out.
I realized after the fact.
Neither could have Rubio or anybody else.
Only Trump could have, and thank God he did, because he delayed the destruction of this country by the four years he got.
Should have another four to be building back from that now, but here we sit.
So what we're doing now in the first 21 months of the Biden administration, Sam, is continuing what Obama started in his first and in his second terms.
And if you look at the place we're in now, This is far worse than we were ever in, even under Obama.
Even with the passage of Obamacare, even with the extraordinary spending and taxing of the country by Obama, we were never at 9.5% inflation.
Where we were just a couple of months ago, now sitting at eight and a half.
We were never in the position that we are with five million people coming across the southern border in two years, even under Obama.
Things are far worse now because what Biden has done, my friend, is continued the Obama agenda.
It's not new here.
And that's why what Ted Cruz said puts us in the position we're in.
If we lose...
On November 8th, and they get 52 votes.
It's not about one man, like Rush talked about with Obama.
It's about 52 Democrat senators.
They will abolish the filibuster, and all of the things Cruz laid out that I played in the first segment are going to come to pass.
We'll never win another election again, because they will pass S-1 and H.R. 1, the For the People Act to reform the entire electoral process, pack the court, Add two states, adding more senators, we'll never gain control again.
This is a part of the endgame.
Obama was at the very beginning of it all.
So I think that's what I think we need to keep in mind.
Great call.
Great points.
I want to talk to you more and I want to listen to you more.
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So I want to hit this too, before I go back to the phones real quick.
If you watched any of the debate last night in Pennsylvania between John Fetterman and Dr. Oz, Fetterman is just in a completely inappropriate place to be trying to apply for a job, which is what he's doing here, that would take such important ability to communicate cognitively and orally.
He's in such a bad place, and apparently you're not allowed to talk about that or it's considered bullying him.
Sunny Hostin, or Hostin, or whatever she is, on The View, decided that if Dr. Oz talks about the prospect that maybe a stroke victim, who is clearly still suffering brain damage, maybe isn't qualified to serve because of his incapacity, That's bullying, apparently.
Listen to this nonsense.
Don't be fooled by that.
It was really strange to me that he chose to bully a stroke victim.
He obviously was bullying him.
I don't think the people of Pennsylvania or the people in general liked that.
Can we point something out here?
First of all, before his stroke, John Fetterman was and is an awful human being.
Before his stroke, John Fetterman spent his time advocating for the release of violent murderers.
All the time.
Voting to parole them.
Talking about hideous, horrific, violent crime.
He wants them set free.
He has said on multiple occasions that he wants to reduce the prison population in Pennsylvania by a third.
And not low-level, non-violent criminals, but violent ones.
The ones that are indeed in prison for life without the possibility of parole.
You saw this a week ago, right?
Didn't you?
He was asked, if you had a magic wand, what one thing would you do?
Would he cure cancer?
No, no, no, no, that wouldn't do it.
Would he end world wars?
No, no, wouldn't wave a magic wand to end all world wars.
Would he cure poverty?
Nope, nope, nope, wouldn't want to feed everybody.
If he had a magic wand and could do one thing with it, he said he would release the prisoners in Pennsylvania that are serving life without parole.
And those people are all what?
Spoiler alert, murderers.
He would release them all.
That's what he said.
So he was a terrible guy before his stroke.
But now he had the stroke, and it is very clearly impairing his ability to think, to process, to express, to speak.
Things that one would think you would have to do in the United States Senate.
But if you say that, now you're bullying him?
Because you point out that he can't do those things, that he couldn't even engage in the debate last night without having closed captioned screens behind the moderators on big screens that he can read because he can't audibly take information in, process it in his brain, figure out what it means, and then offer a coherent response out of his mouth.
He can't do it.
If you point that out, that's not bullying.
That's acknowledging reality.
And you're not even saying it's his fault.
He had a stroke.
It's terrible.
It's sad.
But you know something?
I mean, I use this example in Cleveland, because that's where I'm from, but you can pick your...
It's a sports metaphor, but if Nick Chubb, who's the leading rusher in the National Football League, and by all means every single fan of the Cleveland Browns, would vote to put him in the starting lineup, right?
That makes sense.
He's the best running back in the NFL. Chubb was in a car accident and broke his leg and couldn't run?
Would it be bullying to point out you can't be in our starting lineup anymore?
You can't serve in our offense because you're not physically capable of it anymore.
At least until that changes.
Is that bullying him?
Is that beating him up?
Is that oppressing him?
Is that making fun of him?
Is that ableism?
No.
You're recognizing that he's physically incapable of doing that job now.
That's John Fetterman.
Recognizing that he's physically incapable of listening to testimony in a committee hearing.
Reading and processing and contributing to the writing of legislation and bills.
Passing or not passing legislation because he can't understand it.
He can't communicate his thoughts on it.
It's been evident ever since he hit the primary trail.
And they could have gotten him out of this.
They could have pulled him and said, you know what, we really like John Fetterman, but this is his condition.
Hopefully he'll improve and maybe in another election cycle he can run again for something or maybe for the other Senate seat when it's available or something.
Instead they said, no, let's run with it.
And they put this guy on stage.
And they put this guy on stage and he was humiliated.
He looked and sounded like Joe Biden.
Joe Biden sounds cognitively impaired because of age.
And maybe early onset dementia.
His gaffes are legend, and they continue on a daily.
John Fetterman does the same thing.
His cognitive impairment isn't due to age, it's due to a stroke, but it's there.
And you cannot have these people serving in high-profile and extraordinarily important positions that impact millions of Americans with the most powerful positions in the world.
The President of the United States and the 100 Senators are arguably the most powerful positions in the world.
To have people with cognitive impairment or brain damage or whatever serve in those positions, it is not cruel and it is not bullying to acknowledge that those conditions exist and to say that someone else should be in those positions.
John Fetterman and his family put him up there.
Maybe against his own better judgment.
But he's power hungry.
But they put him up there and he was humiliated on national TV last night.
Victor, according to the surveys, 82% said Dr. Oz.
18% of people, presumably all of them deaf, said John Fetterman.
We'll be right back.
Bob France sitting in, live in Cleveland, Ohio, the ReliefFactor.com studios, our AM 1420, the answer here.
We're going to go to Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin.
Candice, you are on the Dennis Prager Show.
Hi, Candice.
Bob sitting in.
Go ahead.
Hi, Bob.
Thanks for taking my call.
I'm just responding to the guy who called earlier that said that he was listening to Rush and that, you know, Rush had warned that we were going to lose the country.
Well, a lot of the people who are a little bit older watch mainly TV and then a little bit of conservative radio.
And if you do that, you really don't know a lot that's going on because they only tell you so much over the TV anymore.
So I'm going to say this.
What he meant by that is everything that's happening is happening death by a thousand cuts.
OK, so it's very covert.
And if you're not watching everything, you're not going to know what's going on.
So let me tell you, we have we no longer have free speech.
We have woke culture, you know, and that's the way around the Constitution.
OK, so, no, you might go to court if you could afford to go to court all the way to the Supreme Court and get your, you know, your hearing, you know, get your free speech.
But on the way up there, they've already ruined your reputation through, you know, woke culture and cancellation.
Then we have the ABC agencies of our U.S. government who are radicalized left, and they're now coming after anybody who votes GOP, in my opinion.
And then we have the dollar, which is turning into garbage.
We have to buy our own bonds back because no other countries want to be on the petrodollar anymore.
And, you know, we're starting wars, you know, because I don't know why.
Nobody knows why.
It's ridiculous.
I don't believe the reasons why they tell us either.
And then we have the Second Amendment under attack constantly, and they're lying about, you know, the Second Amendment.
They lie about, you know, gun shows and this and that.
Then we have an open border to get a great reset to nullify American votes, you know, and they're just letting anybody in, basically, and most of them are criminals coming from South America, being let out of jails.
Then we have our children under attack literally through You know, it's grotesque sexualization in kindergarten and grade school.
And now they're trying to lob off parts of their body and say that they're trans.
I mean, it's the most absurd thing I've ever heard in my life.
Then they're going after parents who want to protect their kids.
Okay, I could go on and on, but I hope he's getting the...
Yes, you could.
You could.
I would let you, too.
And I would add to some of those things.
Candice, what do you do for a living?
I'm a part-time teacher and a homemaker.
You're very, very in tune with what's going on.
You're very aware.
You're very intelligent.
You articulate these things very, very well.
And that is exactly what you said at the beginning of your call is the greatest response to the last caller.
Rush was right.
I tried to say that, but you said it more correctly.
It's death by a thousand cuts.
It wasn't like, okay, Obama's being reelected, and then boom, a nuke goes off in the middle of the country.
It is by a thousand cuts, and you just listed about a dozen or so of those cuts, and there are so many more.
What happens on November 8th is the answer to the question, can we stop the bleeding?
Can we stop the bleeding from those cuts?
If we lose, like I said, particularly in the Senate, if they have a 52-seat majority, it's all over.
My friends, when I'm away, I know this show is in really good I know this show is in really good hands.
I get so much great feedback about Bob France, the great Cleveland broadcaster.
So sit back, relax, and enjoy an important thinker, Bob France.
Well, if that is true, that means I owe it to you.
You would be the ones providing Dennis with that feedback.
That means you've enjoyed what you hear, or you at least appreciate it enough to disagree with it, if that's what the situation may be.
So if that's true, if Dennis is getting great feedback from you, thank you very, very much.
I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
It's always an honor to sit in with you and with Dennis' team, and it's really a great experience.
Thirteen days away we are.
Now that we are on the 26th morning of the 10th month, oh, I beg your pardon, it's now the afternoon.
It's morning out west.
It's morning where I am, or it's afternoon where I am.
But the 26th day, then, of the 10th month of the year of our Lord, 2022, we're 13 days away.
Two weeks from yesterday, we will decide to either rescue this country or allow it to die a very, very slow and painful death, as articulated by our last caller.
So we'll talk more with you.
At 8 Prager 776, that's 877-243-7776, coming up here shortly.
But I want to bring in a good friend of mine and a very, very noted author and great thinker in his own right for a lot of reasons.
Patrick Wood is a leading and critical expert on sustainable development, green economy, Agenda 21, the 2030 Agenda, and Historic Technocracy.
He's the author of three books on technocracy.
Founder and Executive Director of Citizens for Free Speech, a 501c3 nonprofit for which I serve as the National Communications Director.
And Patrick is based in Tucson, Arizona, where there are a couple of crucial elections in this midterm season that he's going to brief us on.
Patrick, good to talk to you again, my friend.
How are you, sir?
Great, Bob.
Thanks for having me on.
Always a pleasure.
So, Patrick, there's a lot to talk about here.
Many, many things, many of our rights are on the line, depending on the outcome of these midterm elections at the federal level.
And one of those is free speech, so we're going to talk about that in a moment.
But I want to talk about the two high-profile races going on in your state, because I think they impact the country.
People might not think that a governor's race in one state impacts the rest of the country, but I disagree, because I think the policies and platforms for Democrats are almost universal across the country.
Whatever a Democrat governor like Kathy Hochul does in New York is something that is being mimicked by others.
So I want to talk about that.
Carrie Lake is a 30-year broadcast journalist professional, and she's running against the former Attorney General of Arizona, Katie Hobbs.
And this has been a very, very interesting race.
Carrie Lake is extraordinarily popular, and Katie Hobbs is hiding from the debate stage.
What can you tell us about the people in Arizona and what you think is going to happen in that race?
This is a great example of free speech in action.
Bob.
Carrie Lake is a very skilled communicator.
There's no doubt about it.
She's had lots of training over the years.
She's been one of the top anchor women in the country, really.
She could have had a job in many other places besides here.
But she's a stand-up talker.
She says, write what's on her mind.
She has an opinion.
She wears it on her cuff.
And she doesn't shrink back from conflict.
She's just willing to stand up and belt it out On the other hand, her opponent, Katie Hobbs, It's hiding in fear, refusing to debate Carrie Lake, and I would say mostly because she probably fears Carrie Lake's skill in just telling things like they are.
So Carrie Lake has gained great ground here.
It's an example to the rest of our state and to people around the country.
The value of free speech is stand up and be heard.
And I think this is going to encourage a lot of people to do that.
Katie Hobbs likely is going to lose the election at this point, in my opinion.
And, you know, we'll see, of course, anything can happen.
But at this point, her refusal to talk is just a slap in the face of free speech.
We need to hear what she has to say, literally.
I mean, we really do.
If she's going to be an elected official, especially the governor of a state...
We need to know what her positions are and how she can stand up to conflict.
Right now, we just don't know that.
And that part, you just hit it.
I think, Patrick, is very important.
That's what the debate stage is for.
How will you respond to somebody who responds to you?
In other words, in the interviews you do, you give your statement in response to a question, and typically, the way the media is, and especially, dare I say, in the softballs offered by the left-wing media to left-wing candidates, there's no follow-up.
There's no pushback.
When you're in a debate...
You're going to have to not only answer the question of the moderator, but you're going to have to answer the pushback from Carrie Lake.
And the fact that she's too cowardly to get on that stage and show how she would handle conflict, handle the anxiety of a moment when her ideology or her platform or her policies are being challenged.
John Fetterman took the stage in Pennsylvania last night, Patrick.
John Fetterman is cognitively impaired.
He's got brain damage from the stroke that he suffered.
And it's clear to anybody who's ever heard him talk since that time, he was willing to go up there and get schooled by Dr. Oz.
And Katie Hobbs won't even stand on a stage in Arizona against Carrie Lake.
That speaks volumes.
It really does.
And, you know, again, this underscores the importance to what we talk about, you know, when we talk about free speech.
Free speech is not just a concept.
It's not just some ideological concept that we have that we debate, you know, in a coffee shop.
It actually requires that you do something in order to say that you have it.
Carrie Lake minimizes that right now.
She's speaking out because she has opinions, she has thoughts, she has passions, she has emotions, she has intellect.
She's willing to let those things be completely revealed to the public.
This is refreshing.
Even if I didn't agree with her on some point, it is still refreshing that she's willing to stand up and say what's on her mind.
This is what America needs right now, honestly.
We need people to stand up and butt the system.
And she's done it.
Yeah, it's called transparency.
She is willing to step up, and she answers every question from everybody, and she often does so with just some surgical skills when it comes to her verbal responses.
She really carves a lot of her critics up.
It's really quite an amazing thing to see.
Patrick, before I ask you about Blake Masters and Mark Kelly and that Senate race, which is equally as important, in fact, probably bigger on the national stage, How would you describe the political makeup of Arizona?
There are times I look at it and think it's a pretty good red state, and then other times I'll see some election results and say, not so much.
Is it red?
Is it blue?
Is it purple?
Does it depend from cycle to cycle?
It is really iffy, and it has depended from cycle to cycle over the decades.
I've seen we've had very liberal administrations at times, and then other times we've had very conservative.
It seems to just flip-flop back and forth.
Right now, we're headed toward a more conservative stance in Arizona.
But, you know, it still remains to be seen.
Tucson, Arizona, is the other large population outside of Maricopa County.
Tucson has always traditionally been very liberal.
It's a university town.
The University of Arizona is located there.
It's kind of a typical university town.
It tends, it's always tended towards the liberal side.
The metropolitan Phoenix area, which is mostly Maricopa County, is also flip-flops back and forth.
Some cities are conservative, some are not.
Like Tampa, Arizona is a university city.
It tends to be more liberal.
So it's always kind of a toss-up.
This liberal component in our state kind of...
Floods back and forth, and it has given us this purple hue at times where you think, what's happened to Arizona?
They lost their mind.
Well, particularly now, during the last 21 months of the Biden administration, Over 5 million illegal aliens have crossed that border, including an extraordinary amount of over 1 million gotaways.
These are the people that have something to hide.
And Arizona's a border state.
I can't imagine the people in your state there are very happy with the fact that there's no security whatsoever from cartels, from gang members, and human traffickers, and those who continue to flood across that border into your state.
We're very upset about it, I have to say.
Everybody I talk to has concerns over what's happening on our border.
And we are shoring it up, by the way.
Even now, Carrie Lake, I think, will really do a good job with that.
But I have to say, even the Hispanic community, the longer-term Hispanic community in Arizona, absolutely detests the invasion from the South because it is eating into their jobs immediately.
These people that are coming across illegally across the border...
Are replacing their jobs in particular because, you know, often the Hispanic community, you know, works in the same, you know, in the same space.
And so they say, wait a minute.
We work to be where we are.
There are 47 different genders.
Sorry about that.
That popped up.
We were going to play some Carrie Lake in a little bit, but it just popped up on us.
Patrick, I'm going to let that be an interruption for a reason, though, because I've got a hard break here.
Stick with me, though.
I want to talk a little bit about that Blake Masters, Mark Kelly race in the Senate in Arizona, and then a little bit more about the free speech issue you're discussing.
We'll be right back on The Dennis Braker Show.
Okay, 20 minutes past the hour, and we do continue now on the Dennis Prager Show.
Bob France sitting in in Cleveland, Ohio.
We're talking to Patrick Wood in Tucson, Arizona.
Patrick is giving us the lowdown on the Cary Lake governor's race.
Cary Lake versus Katie Hobbs governor's race.
We'll ask him about the Senate race in a moment.
But, Pat, I think this would just be enjoyable for all of us.
Katie Hobbs thinks there are 47 different genders.
I'll tell you what, I'm not a biology major, but there are two genders, guys.
Two.
Keep going.
Hmm.
Keep going.
Don't stop there.
Come on, don't glitch on me.
I want to hear the rest.
Where are the animals from the rodeo being kept?
Somebody point.
Is it over here?
Katie Hobbs.
No, it's not working.
I'm having glitching audio.
My apologies, Patrick.
But you probably already heard this.
This is why Katie Hobbs won't get on a stage with her.
Her next line was, here's a challenge for you, Katie.
Go out and try to milk a bull and tell me how that goes.
So that's the line I wanted to get to here.
It was classic, and I'm just having all kinds of audio problems.
That's why Katie Hobbs doesn't want to debate her.
She's intelligent, she's brilliant, she's funny, and she's going to be a great governor for you guys out there in Arizona.
Now, Patrick, I asked you about the political breakdown of the state of Arizona, and I wanted to kind of get a sense of that so that you can tell us whether or not Blake Masters is going to make sure that that Senate seat is read.
I honestly think that Blake Masters will win his race and that Mark Kelly will be out of the Senate.
Still going to be a relatively close race, I'm sure.
But we have to remember that Blake Masters has the backing of a billionaire by the name of Peter Thiel.
That's where Masters came from.
He worked for Peter Thiel for some time.
And he lives in Arizona, of course.
Thiel doesn't, but Blake does.
And he's a young guy.
He's got quite a bit of charisma.
And right now he's gaining steam.
He's saying a lot of the right things.
I don't feel as passionately about him as I do about Cary Lake, but we really believe we need to defeat Blake Masters.
He's been pretty much a disaster for the state of Arizona, and he has not helped me.
You mean Mark Kelly?
You mean Mark Kelly?
Yeah, we've got to defeat Mark Kelly.
Got it.
Yeah.
And, you know, of course, it's not just for the state of Arizona.
The bigger picture here, Patrick, and the reason why we're talking about all these races is, you know, just control of the Senate.
You know, the Democrats have made it very, very clear, and this is what Ted Cruz told me last week, is that if they get 52, which is what they need in the Senate, they will abolish the filibuster.
they will pass S-1, which is the For the People Act, which would eliminate all states' rights to establish their own voting rules and regulations.
Their elections would be federalized.
And then, of course, they would pack the court and add two more states.
So the control of the Senate is the issue here, not necessarily the quality of the conservative or the Republican running.
And whether or not Blake Masters has that tie with Peter Thiel or not, the issue here is to keep a Democrat definite yes vote like Mark Kelly to get him out of there.
And that's the most important thing here.
So, Patrick, I want to talk a little bit about free speech, because you've talked about it two or three times now in the conversations about Carrie Lake.
Obviously, as I introduced you as the founder and executive director of Citizens for Free Speech, it's under attack.
You and I talk about this all the time.
Let's talk about it with the people now.
It's under attack like never before, and this is also something that will be directly impacted by the House and the Senate races.
It absolutely will.
This is something Americans, as individual citizens, need to really get through their head.
Their voice is important.
Their opinions are important.
It doesn't mean you have to agree with everybody or that everybody agrees with you.
It's important to have a dialogue of ideas in America.
This is the only thing that's going to keep us alive in this country.
If we are allowed to be divided and to become divisive in our speech, we're not going to dig out of this hole at all.
We're just not.
And this is beyond our politicians.
This is what Americans must do.
Yeah, you're 100% right, and this is really literally up to us, and that's where activism comes in.
Local activism, which is a big part of what Citizens for Free Speech promotes and teaches and trains upon, and of course we encourage people to follow the advocacy center that we have at citizensforfreespeech.org to find out what bills are the ones that are most targeting free speech, or the other hand, those that are actually supporting and strengthening our free speech.
to do in their communities they know what to do to make differences and changes with their local legislators or their state legislators and so forth uh activism you know we can't just sit here and wish it away these attacks on our free speech we have to go out there and actively uh you know support and defend them yes you know if we could if our perfect training would teach people how to be like carrie lake we we would have arrived No question about that.
Carrie Lake, just two years ago, was a citizen just like you and I. No different.
Just a John Q citizen or a Susan Q citizen who got encouraged to run for governor.
She said, I don't think I could do that, and I don't know what I'm doing, but here she is today.
She's just such an example of somebody who came from nothing.
She's not a career politician at all.
Yeah, never run for office.
Yes, she came from nothing, and now she is literally the poster child for local activism in Arizona.
Because here she is, ready to win the governor's race in Arizona because of her ability to speak her mind.
That's exactly right.
Patrick Wood is my guest.
He is the Executive Director of Citizens for Free Speech.
Patrick, I want to talk about the free speech statesman, because obviously you and I work together on this.
You know, big tech and Silicon Valley has done everything they can to censor many of the things that you and I and Citizens for Free Speech want to share online.
So what we've decided to do is to take it old school.
Fine.
You may block our emails.
You may block our posts.
You can't stop us from handing newspapers to American citizens, right?
Not at this point, they can't.
They figured out how to do that in Nazi Germany, how to stop people for sure, but...
Today, you can hand somebody something and it's not recorded anywhere.
It can't be censored.
It can't be put into the spam folder.
And that's why we came up with the idea of creating a Citizens for Free Speech newspaper called the Free Speech Statesman.
And, Patrick, you know, this is so important.
What we want to do is we want to have First Amendment supporters reach out to the website, citizensforfreespeech.org.
Order a bundle or two or three of those newspapers, and literally this is what local activism looks like.
Distribute those to people in your churches, put them on the pews, put them on the lunch counters where you go, let people see them and let people read what they may not be able to get on their computers or on their phones anymore.
That's right.
It is an encouragement to people to do the right thing at this point, to stand up and be counted.
And this doesn't require that you be really, that you be like a carrier lake for sure and run for governor.
But everybody can do something, and everybody must do something.
This is what America is all about.
This is how America was built, brick by brick.
Yeah, exactly right.
And we need to return to those foundational principles, very literally.
So we invite everybody to go to citizensforfreespeech.org, go to the store page, order a bundle of papers.
It's tax-deductible when you buy those, and then distribute them in your community so that free speech does indeed survive.
Patrick Wood, thank you, my friend.
It's always a pleasure.
We'll be right back on The Dennis Prager Show.
Where are the animals from the rodeo being kept?
Somebody point.
Is it over here?
Since we're here at a rodeo, Katie, I've got a challenge for you, Katie Hobbs.
Why don't you go out and try to milk a bull and tell me how that goes.
The Dennis Prager Show.
Thirty-three minutes past the hour as we continue on the Dennis Prager Show.
Bob Brandt sitting in here in Cleveland, Ohio, the ReliefFactor.com studios of AM 1420, The Answer.
Thanks also to Patrick Wood for joining us last segment.
Patrick is a good friend, and he's a very, very patriotic American who's looking to help protect our free speech through citizensforfreespeech.org.
I encourage you to visit the website.
And by the way, I also encourage you to listen to our podcast.
Patrick and I do a weekly podcast in which we talk about the most important First Amendment issues of the day.
We do that once a week, and you can find that wherever you do your podcast.
Podbean, Spotify, iHeart, you name it, they've got it.
Okay, let's go to where?
How about Louisville, Kentucky?
And we'll say hello to Kevin.
Kevin, you're on the Dennis Prager Show with Bob Franz sitting in.
Go right ahead, sir.
Well, hello, Bob.
How are you today?
I'm great.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing alright.
So my question is, you keep talking about if the Democrats get 52 in the Senate, they're going to pass S-1, which in effect, they'll change all the voting laws.
Doesn't it require a ratification of the Constitution to change that?
Because the Constitution says that the voting laws are established by the state legislature.
Yeah, that's exactly what the Constitution says, and that's exactly why this is so dangerous.
S1 and H.R.1.
I remember, you know what's funny?
This was written, uh...
Toward the end of last year, the end of 2021, it was in the first year of this Congress, and the way they wrote S-21 and H.R. 21, it does not take a constitutional amendment, but what it does is it allows them, when they say, you and I may phrase it colloquially as...
A federal takeover of state elections, but it's not worded that way in the bill.
It basically says that because of the constitutional right to vote, for example, states cannot or shall not allow photo identification laws.
They may not restrict or limit how people vote, whether it be in person or by mail, etc., etc.
All of the things that they would have to do.
To make sure that they never lose another election again, they can do under this.
So when we call it a federal takeover, that's, I think, the realistic way of saying it, but it's not the way the language is written.
It is a bill that they could pass.
They didn't have the votes to do it before, but once they abolished the filibuster with 52 in this upcoming new Congress, Fifty-two senators, that is exactly what they said their first order of business is.
And I would not put it past them, and I would not put it...
There wouldn't be enough Republicans, by the way, to say you can't do it, and you've got to make it a constitutional amendment.
They would be virtually unchecked.
Their power would be unchecked.
I would say that it's still a change in the way the laws have to be done through the state legislatures, and it would definitely be challenged in the courts.
And I agree that they would try to pack the courts...
They will.
They'll do all of the above.
You can't restrict whatever.
It's still a law that has to be passed by the states.
Well, let's put it to you this way.
It is also unconstitutional, right, for the President of the United States to declare a massive college student loan bailout without that going through the Congress, and yet here we are.
They're doing it.
The Congress is supposed to have a say there.
The Constitution is just a suggestion for Democrats, and Republicans are going to have to fight that.
We'll be back.
17 minutes now before the top of the hour as we continue on the Dennis Prager Show.
Bob Franz sitting in here in Cleveland, Ohio.
So, phone lines are open.
And I want to hear, particularly in the last hour of the program, I want to hear from people in Arizona, Blake Masters and Mark Kelly, Carrie Lake and Katie Hobbs.
People in Pennsylvania, Dr. Roz or John Fetterman.
People in Georgia, Hershel Walker and Raphael Warnock.
People in even Florida, Marco Rubio still has a very comfortable lead, but Marco Rubio and Val Demings, but of course, Ron DeSantis and Charlie Crist.
People in New York with Lee Zeldin challenging Kathy Hoke.
I want to know where you think these races are headed.
I probably have a pretty good idea, if you're a listener of the Prager program, which side you want to win each of those races.
But I want a level of confidence here.
I want to know what you're betting on.
What's going to happen in each of these?
Because I've got 538.com, and I've got real clear politics polling averages, and I can look at all of these different things that say how they think they're going to turn out.
But I don't have voters.
I don't have people to talk to me and tell me exactly why they feel the way they do.
That's what I want you to do.
That doesn't mean I won't take calls from all over the country.
I will.
But I do want to hear from you if you're in a battleground state.
Ohioans!
Even my Ohioans!
Because I'm on the air in Ohio, but not all of Ohio.
So if you are in Cincinnati or Toledo or Columbus or Youngstown or someplace out of northern Ohio where I am...
I want to know, do you think J.D. Vance is going to win that one, or is it going to be Tim Ryan?
All of this, of course, is crucial to the survival of this country.
877-243-7776.
Now, something else that's crucial to the survival of this country has to be the independent nature of our government, and in particular, our judiciary.
The judiciary, of course, is one of the three separate but co-equal branches of government Protection and independence as the other two.
But I want to talk for just a second about what happened earlier this summer.
Actually, it was late spring, early summer.
And I want to talk about why nothing has changed.
What I'm speaking of is the leak from the United States Supreme Court of the Dobbs decision That would eventually lead to the rollback of Roe versus Wade.
That leak was extraordinarily dangerous.
That leak put a lot of people in jeopardy.
That leak also fired up an entire party because, you know, the Democrats love nothing quite like the way they love to kill babies, particularly at...
Any given time during the gestational cycle, for any reason whatsoever.
It used to be safe, legal, and rare.
Now it's without apology, and at any time, for any reason.
Convenience or otherwise, right?
That leak was made, and the decision was revealed.
And we are now, what, six months past that time?
The Federal Bureau of Investigation, the FBI, has not found the source of that leak yet.
The FBI can find out the names of American citizens who have prayed outside of abortion clinics and sent FBI agents to their doors with guns drawn, threatening them, arresting them.
Who was rumored to have been in Washington at the Capitol on January 6th.
Not accused of anything.
But rumor was you were there.
They've gone to people's homes.
Tucker Carlson did a segment on that a couple of weeks ago.
They've gone to people's homes.
Banging on the doors.
Scaring the you-know-what out of everybody with guns drawn.
Because somebody was reputed to have been in Washington at that time.
Therefore, maybe we've got a jail cell for you.
The FBI can find anybody.
But there's a very, very limited number of people who work for the United States Supreme Court, who work for those justices, their clerks, their assistants, and them.
The number of people who have access to decisions that are being made and votes that are being held and...
I'm sorry, I'm losing my brain.
The opposite of the decisions.
The dissents.
The dissenting opinions that are written.
All of these things, very, very limited number of people have access to these decisions and these votes and these writing for the majority and those writing for the dissent.
Writing the dissent.
And you're telling me that in six months the FBI can't find who made that leak?
Who made that happen?
The FBI doesn't want to know, because you know as well as I do, it is going to be some left-winger working for one of the left-wing justices who is livid about the way this whole thing was going to go down with Roe v.
Wade, and the fact that they won't reveal the name of the leaguer and bring them to justice, thus deterring any such thing in the future, could have a very, very serious, dangerous impact on justices in the future.
Justice Sam Alito was doing an interview.
And I want to play this for you.
Justice Alito is telling the truth about what is happening here because the FBI will not cross their left wing.
Do we have time for this, Sean, or did I run out of time?
We'll have to play it in the next segment.
Thank you, Shawnee.
We'll play for you next segment here because I've set it up for too long here.
But what Sam Alito is talking about here is the literal threat on the lives of justices.
For daring to interpret the Constitution and doing their jobs.
And the fact that no one has been held accountable for that leak that put hundreds, if not thousands, of people outside the doors of Supreme Court justices' homes and put people in serious jeopardy.
The fact that nobody is being held accountable is extraordinary.
We're going to play that for you coming up after this on the Dennis Brink.
Bob Brandt sitting in for Dennis.
Justice Samuel Alito says he just wants things to get back to normal in the new Supreme Court term after the leaked abortion opinion made him and other conservative justices targets for assassination.
Listen.
So one of the most remarkable features about the court in an age of incessant leaks is the confidentiality that long...
covered its internal deliberations.
Unfortunately, that changed this last term with the horrific and completely unprecedented leak of your draft majority opinion in Dobbs.
How has the leak affected the court?
It was a grave betrayal of trust by somebody, and it was a shock because nothing like that had happened in the past.
So it certainly changed the atmosphere at the court for the remainder of last term.
The week also made those of us who were thought to be in the majority in support of overruling Roe and Casey targets for assassination because it gave people a rational reason to think they could prevent that from happening by killing one of us.
And we know that a man has been charged with attempting to kill Justice Kavanaugh.
It's a pending case, so I won't say anything more about that.
But that was last term.
Now we're in a new term.
I think that all of us want to, all of the justices, and I think the people who work in the building, we have wonderful staff.
I'll add that.
I want things to get back to normal the way they were before all this last term, before COVID. Get back to normal to the greatest degree possible.
And that's what we hope will happen.
Okay, we can cut it there.
I think the most important part that we needed to hear, you just heard.
The conservative justices on the court are targets for assassination.
And yes, indeed, as he pointed out, there was one arrest made for attempted murder from a wild, radical, pro-abortion leftist who showed up outside the home of Brett Kavanaugh and was going to try to kill him.
He had weapons, he had ammunition, he had all kinds.
I think he had zip ties.
Was he going to tie people up and shoot his family, too?
We don't even know.
Thank goodness he was stopped.
Thank goodness there were agents outside because it forced him to turn around and then he ended up actually going to a phone and calling and turning himself in.
But how does the FBI backburner this?
How does the FBI not make this literally?
Job number one, find out who leaked the draft decision that put Supreme Court justices' lives in danger.
Literally, they threatened them.
Literally, they stormed outside of their houses.
And they doxed them.
They followed them.
Everything that they do puts these judges in.
And Sam Alito is just calling it out right now.
We were targets and are targets for assassination.
And the FBI is doing nothing about it.
It's inconceivable.
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