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	I hope you had a good weekend.
	Hi, everybody.
	I'm Dennis Prager.
	The weekends go fast.
	The weeks go fast.
	So make use of it while you can.
	Hi, everyone.
	Good to be with you.
	And my heart goes out to the people in Turkey, the hundreds who were killed.
	Thousands.
	It's thousands?
	Are you serious?
	Over 2,000.
	Oh my God, the last number I saw was, I thought, 370-something.
	No.
	It's thousands?
	It's going to be much higher.
	Look at the damage.
	Wow.
	Yes, it raises, these are the things that raise the questions of what are called theodicy.
	It's a good word for you to know.
	T-H-E-O-D-I-C-Y. Theodicy is the problem of unjust suffering and a good God.
	And my dear friends, I've spent the life trying to find out answers and they're not all available to us.
	So...
	That's my comment on the theodicy aspect.
	What I know for sure is that the post-Judeo-Christian West is dying.
	Of that I am certain.
	If that is not obvious to you, It is because you have not thought the issue through.
	There is no possible alternative but the death of our civilization that has been made by that.
	I'm reading a book.
	It's called The Weird People.
	You're not familiar with it, are you?
	I have no recollection as to who recommended the book to me.
	The author's thesis is that in the West, especially Western Europe, which would include...
	The English-speaking world, Canada, United States, New Zealand, Australia, and of course the UK, but that's Northern Europe.
	It produced weird people.
	Weird, not in a negative sense, but in a different than the rest of the world sense.
	An interesting example that he gives is, if you say to an American, let's say, Fill in the rest of the sentence, I am.
	It's a very interesting point that he makes.
	So if I were to fill it in, aside from saying I'm Dennis Prager, obviously anyone might think their name, but putting your name aside, I am.
	So you might think to say I am an accountant.
	I am an avid sportsman, right?
	That's what you would fill in.
	But in the rest of the world, people are more likely to say, I am so-and-so's father.
	I am so-and-so's daughter.
	Isn't that interesting?
	The West built something different here.
	And we're crushing it.
	And it was built, according to the author, largely by Protestantism.
	Right after Luther, the literacy rates went from 1% to well over 50% within a generation because people had to read the Bible because of sola scriptura, the doctrine that you get your...
	Knowledge of God from the Scripture.
	Sola Scriptura means only Scripture.
	We have built something unique in the West, and it is hated.
	It is hated by the left.
	How a society that has produced so much good could produce so many people who want to destroy it is a phenomenon.
	We're living through Not only a dark age, but a phenomenal one.
	not phenomenal in the good sense but in the sense of it is a phenomenon they didn't shoot down the balloon It's...
	The Chinese, I think, I think that there is a weak, that the West is going through a weak phase, and the United States is the leading country in the West, is going through a particularly suicidal phase, and it is, unless you consider what the Democrat's doing to be homicide.
	I don't know if it's homicide or suicide.
	I think it's homicide.
	Everything has been hurt by the left.
	Every single thing.
	And I think that they sense that they can do anything they want with impunity.
	Having said that, it's time for me, I guess, to once again return briefly.
	You're certainly free to call in and differ with me, as many of you do.
	I believe that the aid that this country has given Ukraine...
	Despite my loathing of Joe Biden, one of the worst human beings to occupy any public office in American history, in my opinion, I think he is as close to conscience-free as we have had.
	I would say that Donald Trump is a moral giant compared to Joe Biden, but it's irrelevant.
	I'm talking about the damage done to the country.
	And nevertheless, I don't ask do I like Joe Biden.
	I ask what is good for the world and for the United States and aiding Ukraine may have saved, may, there's no way to know for sure, may have saved us a war with China.
	Because if China saw that Russia could simply conquer Ukraine because it wants Ukraine, Then it would think we can conquer Taiwan because we want Taiwan.
	They certainly did that with Hong Kong.
	It's probably the only thing that I differed with Margaret Thatcher, who was one of the great leaders of the 20th century.
	When she gave Hong Kong to the Chinese government because of a deal made 100 years earlier, But I believe it could have easily been avoided by saying, we didn't make the deal with this government.
	You're not the legitimate government of China.
	We don't have to return Hong Kong to you.
	When you're democratically elected, we'll happily give Hong Kong to you.
	And so Hong Kong is now part of China.
	And they want that with Taiwan, too.
	You have to understand...
	Everyone has to understand that expansionist dictatorial regimes don't stop expanding.
	Here's one for you.
	I'll bet you you didn't know this one.
	One of the Russian, one of the czar's counselors, ministers, a man by the name of Pabidonostev, that's a good one, said the following.
	In justifying the expansion of the Russian Empire, that which does not expand contracts.
	You ever heard that one?
	Sure.
	You didn't, right?
	No, no, you've mentioned it.
	Oh, I've mentioned it.
	Yeah, not in a long time.
	Well, you're with me a long time.
	It was brilliant.
	It was a brilliant insight.
	And it explains, the left, it explains...
	Putin, it explains China at this time.
	That which does not expand contracts.
	There is no satisfying the people with this attitude.
	You probably thought that with the redefinition of marriage for the first time in history, To include members of the same sex, one of the most radical, you might say radically wonderful, but you can't deny it was radical.
	One of the most radical changes in the history of social relations on Earth and the most radical in family formation.
	You would have thought, most people thought, okay, that the world of LGB, we'll put the T aside for a moment, is satisfied.
	Like the March of Dimes would be satisfied with the conquering of polio.
	But that is not true.
	That which does not expand contracts, whether that is Putin's Russia, whether it is Xi's China, or whether it is the left in the United States.
	There is always more of territory that...
	Or more of a society to conquer.
	1-8 Prager 776. We return.
	The Dennis Prager Show.
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	I'm going to play for you momentarily a hideous video put out by the Disney Corporation.
	The world would be a better place if Disney shut down.
	Gentlemen, do we have the Disney video to be played?
	Alright, let's put this up.
	Can people watch it if they're watching me?
	Can they see it?
	Yes, you can watch it while watching me.
	That's SalemNewsChannel.com.
	You can watch this show in addition to hearing it.
	So here goes.
	This is a cartoon.
	We're not getting any sound, so we'll have to start again.
	There's no audio on that, sorry.
	Okay, all right.
	We'll have to play it for you later.
	We don't have the audio.
	It's about a minute and a half.
	They're all black figures speaking about how racist America is and that slavery built the country.
	Black slaves built the country.
	This is one of the many current lies of the left.
	There is, I think, an unanswerable objection or proof that that is a lie.
	Slaves built the country.
	First of all, slavery was only in the South, and the South was the poorest part of the country.
	So if slaves built the country...
	How do you explain the fact that the poorest part of the country was the part with slavery?
	Here's another answer to that lie.
	Now, there's no denying that slaves built the sugar and cotton economies, which are important.
	But to say built the country is just a lie.
	If slaves built the country, why isn't Brazil rich?
	Brazil had, what was it, ten times as many slaves?
	I don't remember the figure.
	Way more slaves than the United States.
	Why isn't Brazil wealthy?
	Why is Haiti one of the poorest countries in Latin America, which is saying something?
	A slave state, essentially.
	It's one of the few black countries of Latin America, maybe the only black country in Latin America.
	Is there another one that you can think of?
	I can't.
	There are blacks in other countries, but Haiti is essentially all black.
	Dominican Republic, which shares the island with it, is European, racially speaking.
	You have to understand that most college graduates today do believe slaves built the country.
	Thank you.
	Because the purpose of American education is to graduate ignoramuses.
	Yes, the purpose.
	They know almost nothing about history.
	And if you know nothing about history, you know nothing.
	Just the way it works.
	They know nothing about history and they're taught no wisdom.
	But then they get a BA. You know what they get a BA in?
	We all know my phrase in America.
	Today you get a BA in ingratitude, you get a master's in ingratitude, and you get a PhD in ingratitude.
	Talking about the colleges, I will be speaking, today is Monday, two nights from now I will be speaking.
	With Robert Kiyosaki and Charlie Kirk at Arizona State University.
	Thirty-five professors have written the university to condemn the university for inviting the three of us, in particular Charlie and me.
	Robert Kiyosaki is the author of Rich Dad, Poor Dad.
	I'm not sure exactly what they have against him, so they have generally focused their condemnation on...
	Charlie Kirk and on me, 35 professors.
	Therefore, if you know anybody in Arizona within hours of Phoenix, it is important to have standing-room-only response to this, just as when I conducted the Santa Monica Symphony Orchestra, we sold out the Disney Concert Hall.
	They tried the same thing then, professors.
	Don't go to Dennis Prager because a conservative should not be allowed to conduct the orchestra of a left-wing city.
	I raised the entire budget of that orchestra of that year doing that.
	It didn't take any money.
	And they still said people shouldn't go.
	So are we ready with the Disney...
	Oh, that's right.
	So people can get tickets.
	Is there a direct link?
	Yeah, at DennisPrager.com.
	That's right.
	You can get tickets.
	That's right.
	Thank you for reminding me.
	So I'd like you to hear and watch, if you can, this America-loathing, mendacious, fancy word for lying, video put out.
	By the completely nihilistic Walt Disney Corporation.
	If you go to Disneyland or Disney World, you're supporting a vile organization.
	If you support the Disney Channel, you are supporting a vile organization.
	It is important to crush the leadership of Disney.
	They hate this country.
	They hate truth.
	I'm not asking you to storm Normandy Beach.
	I'm asking you to discontinue use of Disney products.
	It's not exactly a huge sacrifice.
	There's a lot more you can do with your kids.
	Here is their vile video.
	Okay, there's no sound again, guys.
	Sorry.
	We'll be back in a moment.
	1A Prager 776. It is an extraordinarily...
	Destructive video.
	It is as anti-white as anything the Ku Klux Klan ever put out that was anti-black.
	And that is permissible on the left.
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	All right, everybody, we're going to show you here a...
	Okay.
	We're going to show you a video that is put up by Disney, which is a hate-filled video, presumably for kids.
	Let's see, there are five figures, one white, the other is black, and it's, well, you'll hear it, and you can watch it at Salem News Channel.
	Here we go.
	This country was built on slavery, which means slaves built this country.
	Tilled this land from sea to sea to sea.
	First there was rice, tobacco, sugar cane.
	Then Whitney did his thing and cotton became king.
	And we were its soldiers.
	Four million strong.
	Fighting for America's freedoms even though we remained America's slaves.
	Built this country.
	The descendants of slaves continue to build this.
	Slaves built this country.
	And we, the descendants of slaves in America, have earned reparations for their suffering.
	And continue to earn reparations every moment we spend some...
	Okay, hold on, hold on.
	Okay, so, and continue to earn reparations every moment we spend submerged in a systemic prejudice, racism, and white supremacy.
	This is the manure, I wish I could use the actual word for manure, that Disney puts out.
	Disney is an America-hating, white-hating, lying, despicable...
	Child, innocence, enemy.
	It is not possible to overstate how bad Disney has become.
	You are guilty of hurting this country if you go to Disneyland or Disney World or sign up on the Disney Channel or have anything to do with this despicable company run by despicable people.
	This whole thing is a blatant, white-hating lie.
	Slaves built certain industries without question.
	They did not build the country.
	Lying doesn't matter to the left because truth is not a left-wing value.
	I have an example almost every day.
	This is today's example.
	But since they learn nothing in school, a whole generation of American kids will believe slaves built this country.
	And we owe them reparations.
	Whom do we owe reparations?
	That's a tougher one.
	And that is systemic racism with cartoon characters.
	Wow.
	To think that they've gone from Peter Pan and other stuff.
	What was it?
	Fantasy World.
	Remember that?
	What were the different worlds of Disney?
	When I was a kid, it was Fantasy World.
	Do you remember the different worlds?
	No?
	I remember Fantasy World.
	I can't think of a better example of the left that destroys everything it touches than Disney.
	me.
	Because it's so dramatic and so obvious.
	You should have nothing to do with Disney if you care about truth or if you care about this country.
	It's as simple as that.
	America was founded on racism.
	It is systemically racist today.
	We owe reparations.
	This is what is shown here with these characters.
	Continue, please.
	And white supremacy that America was founded with and still has not atoned for.
	Slaves built this country.
	Hold on.
	You see, this is perfect propaganda.
	The slaves built this country line must be said ten times.
	In the 1 minute and I think 18 seconds that I'm showing you.
	No, 1 minute 45 seconds.
	Slaves built this country.
	Hmm.
	Well, slaves built Brazil.
	Slaves built Haiti.
	Maybe it's not slavery that built countries.
	Maybe it's the values of a country that built the country.
	But they couldn't acknowledge that.
	Continue, please.
	We'll continue with this when we return. .
	I'm playing for you the latest hate piece from the despicable Disney Corporation.
	If you don't say despicable every time you say Disney Corporation, you're not doing a service to truth.
	This video, the black cartoon characters.
	Is about how racist America is.
	This is what's put out for kids.
	When they're not busy denying that they were boys and girls, because that's binary.
	When they're not busy robbing kids of innocence, they're busy giving kids a lying understanding of America.
	Really bad people have taken over the Disney Corporation.
	Get rid of their stock.
	Don't go to their functions.
	Do not subscribe to their channel.
	Let them know about this.
	Write letters to the editor.
	If you don't fight, you don't deserve America, okay?
	Let me put it to you very bluntly.
	You know that there are people who said to me after the last presidential election, you know, I don't listen to talk radio anymore.
	I'm just tuning out.
	Not because they differ with what's being said.
	They just don't want to be bothered by the fight.
	If good people don't fight, they're not good people.
	Sorry, folks.
	I really am.
	I don't want to insult you.
	I have no interest in insulting you.
	But I have interest in motivating you to look inward.
	Why aren't you fighting?
	What does it take?
	I mean, if you're a grandparent, will you take your kid to Disneyland or Disney World?
	So here's this hate-filled, America is systemically racist, give us reparations, and slaves built the country, slaves built this country, slaves built this country.
	It's already been said about five times.
	The whole thing is one minute and 45 seconds.
	We continue.
	The Illuminati, the New World Order.
	Slaves built this country.
	We had Tubman, Turner, Frederick D. Didn't they say Lincoln freed the slaves?
	But slaves were meant.
	and women and only we can free ourselves.
	Emancipation is not freedom.
	Jim Crow, segregation, redlining, public schools, feeding private prisons where we become slaves again.
	As we celebrate Juneteenth for the umpteenth time, our account is still outstanding.
	'Cause this country was built on slavery, which means slaves built this country.
	And we demand our 40 acres and a mule.
	You can keep the mule.
	Keep the 40. We're taking our freedom!
	And then there's a picture of three whites who were horrified by what was done.
	It's a white-hating, America-hating piece of crap put out by the Disney Corporation.
	And it's a gigantic lie that the country is systemically racist.
	The left is systemically racist against whites and against blacks.
	There's no contempt for blacks like there is among leftists.
	There's nothing, there's no...
	Comparison of anything on the right.
	Lower standards, because blacks can't make it, is about as contemptuous a view of a group as you can have.
	But this fills leftists with meaning.
	Their empty secular souls need a cause.
	And this one comes with no price.
	No price whatsoever.
	Fighting Christianity, fighting America, fighting whites, you know you're not going to get hurt.
	So you fill your life with meaning.
	Anti-racism, as the fraud known as Ibram X. Kendi bases his appeal on.
	Yes.
	So this is what they put out for your kids.
	Want to check out for me how many black slaves were brought to Brazil?
	360,000, I think, is the number to the United States.
	Let's see what the number is to Brazil.
	There's a country that was built by slaves.
	Look at how well it's done.
	America was built by American values, far more than built by slaves.
	Certain industries were, there's no doubt about it.
	It made individual Southerners rich, but it didn't build the country.
	Needless to say, it was horrific.
	But that's not the same as built the country.
	But for the average kid, graduating the average American high school or college, They wouldn't know what the hell I'm talking about when I would say, well, how many slaves are brought to Brazil?
	What?
	What?
	Brazil had slavery?
	Where's Brazil?
	Here's an interesting test.
	While I'm on the subject of Brazil, what percentage of college graduates, college, forget high school, What percentage of college graduates could answer the question, what is the language spoken in Brazil?
	Interesting one, isn't it?
	I don't think 5% of college graduates, people who went four years to one of our crappy universities, could answer the question.
	If you don't know the language of Brazil, the largest country in Latin America, you don't know a damn thing.
	And they don't know a damn thing.
	They know America's racist and racists built the country and that sexual identity is non-binary.
	That's what you know if you attend American College.
	By the way, there are some exceptions.
	I will be speaking at Arizona State University on Wednesday night and some professors actually came out against the 35. Three professors.
	We're going to have one of them on the show.
	Defending our right, that is Charlie Kirk, Robert Kiyosaki, and I to speak there.
	And then I saw a list in that letter of conservatives that Arizona State University has had speak there.
	It seems to me, and I'll find out more Wednesday night, it seems to me that here is one of the few universities that is intellectually open.
	Arizona State.
	I'm sure the great majority of professors look at 35 to 3 in terms of trying to condemn the university for having us or defend it.
	But they're allowing it.
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	Hello, everybody.
	Welcome to the Dennis Prager Show.
	I'm Dennis Prager.
	February 2023. Sounds like a science fiction movie.
	I welcome you.
	Last hour, and if you don't get all three hours, you can, at PragerTopia without commercials.
	PragerTopia.com I played for you an hour, an hour, a minute and 45 second cartoon put out by the Disney Corporation.
	If you patronize anything Disney does, you are hurting the United States of America and you are hurting the cause of truth.
	There is absolutely no justification for purchasing a Disney product at this time.
	Our task is to get rid of the leadership who have ruined that and are ruining children.
	They spread lies.
	The entire video is blacks built this country, slaves built the country, slaves built the country, slaves built the country.
	It's a cartoon.
	It's a white-hating, America-hating, truth-hating cartoon put out by Disney.
	So I have to repeat again.
	Shame on you if you buy any Disney product.
	I'm not asking you to storm the beaches of Normandy against Nazi machine guns.
	I'm asking you to help save truth, liberty, and the country by boycotting everything that Disney produces.
	Their parks should be empty or just leftists should go there.
	But since leftists have so many fewer children than conservatives, it's very hard to rely.
	They're relying on conservatives who are lazy.
	And it's easier because your kid, oh, take me to Disney World.
	Why don't you tell your kid, Disney World is hurting the United States of America, which I love, and therefore, my dear grandchild, I'm not taking you.
	Grandpa stands for more than fun.
	How's that?
	Grandpa stands for more than fun.
	That's a radical notion.
	Boy, it doesn't get more hate-filled and lying than that video.
	Just for your interest.
	Interesting conflict is taking place this Wednesday night at Arizona State University.
	Charlie Kirk, Robert Kiyosaki, author of Rich Dad, Poor Dad, and I will be on a panel.
	And 35 professors attacked Charlie and me and condemned the university for inviting us.
	Three professors have said that we should be invited.
	One of them will be on the show.
	When is he coming on?
	Tomorrow?
	Yeah.
	I looked him up and he's an interesting guy.
	He's written some very interesting books.
	Arizona State seems to allow conservatives to speak at their university, one of the rare colleges that does.
	You should all come on Wednesday night like you did when I conducted the Santa Monica Symphony Orchestra about five years ago.
	It was a huge success.
	You know that it was the only time...
	To the best of my knowledge, it was the only time that the Disney Concert Hall ever sold out a regional orchestra.
	In other words, not the LA Philharmonic, for example.
	And it was because of your support for me.
	By the way, most people cried that evening when at the very end, Guido and I, Guido is the late conductor of the Santa Monica Symphony Orchestra who invited me, One of the most wonderful people I've ever met.
	What was Guido's last name?
	Let's find out, because I want to honor him.
	He suddenly died.
	died, he's a perfectly healthy member of the Los Angeles Philharmonic string section, a major violinist as well as the conductor of the symphony, of the orchestra I should say.
	It was a painful thing when I learned that he had died.
	Hmm.
	LaMelle.
	Paquito LaMelle, yeah, that's it.
	All right, let's see here.
	I might as well take this one.
	This one is charming, I think.
	Tempe, Arizona, and Jim, hello.
	Hi, Dennis.
	Hey, I just appreciate your standing for truth.
	Thank you.
	Getting the information out there regarding what's happening in our country and also hear what's occurring within ASU. I've got two daughters, twin daughters, actually, that attend ASU as juniors.
	It was quite a transition for them, as you can well imagine, going from Christian school to the filth.
	Well, were they inoculated against the wokeness?
	They were.
	Thank the Lord.
	They walk with God.
	They're very deeply rooted in their faith.
	But, you know, we're all going to be going to see you Wednesday.
	I just can't believe how many people we've got going.
	This thing is just snowballing.
	We've got to figure out some logistics to get over there to the Gammage because, boy, we've got like three Carlos here going so far.
	Really?
	You're giving me the chills.
	Really?
	You're touching my heart.
	Well, you know.
	I wish I could meet you and your daughters.
	Thank you.
	God bless you.
	I am the recipient of so much love and so much hate.
	It's really...
	By the way, I know that I've shared this with you, but it is so helpful to people who hear this.
	I'd like to just share with you how I assimilate the hate and the love.
	And this is a great guideline for your own life.
	Don't let compliments go to your head and don't let insults go to your heart.
	Because if you allow one, the other one will be allowed.
	If you let compliments go to your head, you will allow insults to go to your heart.
	So I deeply appreciate the love But it doesn't go to my head.
	And I have contempt for the hate, the haters.
	They're so ignorant about me and everything I stand for and all basically what is good.
	But it doesn't go to my heart.
	I sleep perfectly well.
	And that's the way you should work out life.
	Don't let compliments go to your head and don't let insults go to your heart.
	I mentioned something to you only in passing.
	I had no time to develop it.
	The amount of sickness that permeates the left, I mean sickness, I don't mean just evil, I mean sickness, is quite remarkable.
	It is a celebration, leftism is a celebration of the pathologic.
	Here is an example, Burberry.
	Where is Burberry located?
	Is that English?
	The company?
	Yeah, the company.
	So Burberry features transgender model with visible mastectomy scars in Valentine's Day campaign.
	So Valentine's Day is eight days from now.
	Burberry is the latest, this is from Breitbart, is the latest fashion label to feature transgender models.
	I saw this picture showing a shirtless female-to-male model with visible double mastectomy scars in a recent Valentine's Day campaign.
	So they're celebrating a young woman who had some sick surgeon at some sick children's hospital remove her breasts for no medical reason.
	Zero.
	She said that she's a boy.
	Okay.
	We'll take your money.
	And will remove your breasts.
	And then Burberry shows the shirtless quote-unquote male with the mastectomy scars.
	Why is that not sick?
	They're celebrating it?
	It's something to be celebrated?
	The campaign shows the half-naked tattooed trans model embracing a biological female model who is wearing what appears to be a Burberry top.
	Burberry posted the image to its official Instagram account where it has been inundated by a deluge of negative user comments.
	The caption below the image reads, Be, the letter B, colon, mine, be mine.
	The same year, Chanel Beauty, that's 2019, announced that transgender model Teddy Quinlivan was the company's new face.
	there's It's never been a healthy world, the fashion world.
	It certainly hasn't been for the last 50 years.
	Yeah, 50 years, fine.
	Last year, New York Fashion Week featured a 10-year-old transgender model who walked the runway for fashionable label Renacio.
	Wow.
	A 10-year-old transgender model.
	This is the combination of secularism and affluence.
	that's This is what has been produced.
	It's hard to know whether we will survive this onslaught.
	However, the good news is a lot of us are fighting back.
	That's why you can't patronize a damn thing that Disney produces.
	You are hurting the country for sheer convenience.
	That's what you're doing when you patronize anything that Disney produces.
	Talking about toxicity, I have mentioned this, but I have not read to you.
	The entirety.
	This is so unbelievable that I have to read it to you.
	It's from the American Spectator.
	Norwegian government funds study on whether white paint is racist.
	This is the stuff...
	What is the line?
	You can't make it up.
	So they describe what's happening and then they write...
	This brings us to Ingrid Haaland, H-A-L-L-A-N-D, an associate professor at the Department of Linguistics, Literary, and Aesthetic Studies at the University of Bergen in Norway.
	What the hell is the Department of Linguistics, Literary, and Aesthetic Studies?
	Isn't that awesome?
	I'm a professor of aesthetic studies.
	Actually, it's beautiful when you think about it.
	Halland's current area of research concerns the chemical compound titanium dioxide, which mined in Sockendal, Norway, was first transformed by Norwegian scientists of a century ago into a breakthrough product that became internationally popular.
	Halland's modest claim is that this popularity was in large part a reflection of racism.
	You know, be honest.
	How often have I said to you, well before this article, that titanium dioxide is racist?
	I called it a long time ago.
	The battle against titanium dioxide, my friends, is the battle against racism.
	For titanium dioxide is the pigment used in the very best white paint.
	A pigment that since its introduction has made possible walls and other surfaces that are, quote, whiter than white.
	Which Halland insists is a problem.
	A big one in her projected academic study, How Norway Made the World Whiter.
	This is all Babylon B material.
	News of which has reached English language readers in recent days thanks to a widely reprinted Fox News story.
	Halland's plans to reflect on the question of how our native country by giving the world a substance that is, quote, present in literally every part of modern life has not only led to an aesthetic desire for white surfaces, but has also been inextricably connected but has also been inextricably connected with racist attitudes, reinforcing the perhaps largely unconscious acceptance by white people worldwide of the ways in which their own skin color is wrapped up in privilege and systemic exclusion, reinforcing the perhaps largely unconscious acceptance by white people worldwide of the ways in which their
	By the way, just well, they will note it.
	There is really not much connection between the color of white paint...
	And people that are called white, but we'll put that aside for the moment.
	In a recent scholarly article, I emphasize the word scholarly, Halland acknowledged that TiO2, that's titanium dioxide, isn't chemically toxic, but added that its introduction into the world of wall paint, quote, Created conditions for the emergence of attitudes towards color that could be said to be socially toxic.
	Modern art and architecture by establishing white as the non-dominant background par excellence, such that certain kinds of buildings, notably museums, could hardly exist without the whitest of white walls.
	Clearly the ground for cultural racism, ideas about white superiority, And the chromophobic, yes, chromophobic.
	That's a new phobia.
	We don't have enough.
	Well, that's right.
	It's the phobia of the month.
	Exclusion internalized in architectural aesthetics.
	Who was it who made the point to me that having white walls at museums, the whole purpose was to be sort of invisible so you could see the paintings better?
	It's the opposite.
	Norway's role in establishing white as a background color all over the world, concludes Haaland, was, quote, an imported gesture of coloniality.
	Incidentally, one of the bigger points to be made about all of this, there's so little racism in the Western world today that they invent it.
	What is coloniality?
	What is coloniality?
	Oh, please.
	You know.
	It's painful that you, my revered producer, would ask, what is coloniality?
	Coloniality is the act of being colonial.
	That man is imbued with coloniality.
	It is a term you frequently use.
	God, did I see coloniality the other day?
	Norway placed itself on the side of white colonial powers.
	That's coloniality.
	Does Holland recognize that precisely the opposite conclusion could just as easily be drawn from this peripheral bit of history?
	That one could argue, namely, that Norway helped make whiteness invisible.
	After all, Holland herself points out...
	That when white became the de rigueur color for modernist walls, it, quote, withdrew further into the inconspicuous realm.
	Furniture and objects were meant to be free from any background.
	The wall was not meant to be noticed, unquote.
	Think about it.
	If you're making a white wall inconspicuous, wouldn't you be rendering whiteness invisible, not privileging it?
	But the whole paper.
	It's not rooted in reason or logic.
	Then there's the question of what we mean by white.
	Needless to say, the hue of titanium white paint has nothing on earth to do with the color of anybody's skin.
	Not even the palest albino is titanium white.
	The real skin color of so-called Caucasians varies enormously if you use the term found in Ingrid and Sundsberg widely reposted color thesaurus.
	I'll continue.
	We have a great guest coming up.
	I'll continue with this.
	There's so little racism in the West that they attack paint.
	All right, everybody.
	I'm taking a break from the clear racism implicit in white paint, according to a professor in Norway.
	And I'm going to return to Earth for a moment.
	I have in studio, which is a delight, Kent Heckenlively, who has co-authored a brand new book.
	By the way, James O'Keefe wrote the foreword.
	This was CNN. It is crossed out, for those who can't see the cover.
	This was CNN. How Sex, Lies, and Spies Undid the World's Worst News Network.
	What prompted you to write the book?
	Well, I've been working with Project Veritas for several years now, writing stories of their whistleblowers.
	So usually what happens is the whistleblower will appear on video with James O'Keefe.
	There's an enormous interest in the story, viewed by millions of people.
	And then afterwards, there's a whole lot of the story that Project Veritas couldn't cover.
	So that's when they bring me in to go deeper into the story of the whistleblower and deeper into the story.
	So what whistleblowing is involved with CNN? So Kerry Porch worked for CNN for two years.
	Your co-author.
	Yeah, my co-author worked for CNN for two years.
	And what was very interesting is that he actually started working for CNN in June of 2017 as a Bernie Sanders supporter.
	And so what happened was he was a satellite uplink technician, which meant that he had to run the...
	The satellite truck and get everything set up on location.
	And the first job, big job that he had to do was the Charlottesville riots.
	And so he saw the development of the fine people story.
	And to his credit, and I think this is why I write these books, especially so that they...
	By the way, just to remind everybody, the fine people story refers to the allegation that Donald Trump at the time said Nazis were fine people.
	Exactly.
	By the way, there's a PragerU video, one of the most widely viewed that we have.
	about the Charlottesville lie.
	It is another another lie because truth is not a left-wing value that he said that Nazis were fine people.
	I'm sorry, go ahead.
	Yeah, so that sort of started a process of his eyes being opened, and eventually...
	Oh, that's what did it?
	Yeah, that's what did it.
	That's fascinating.
	Yeah, well, and one of the things that I just have to say for people to understand about the Project Veritas whistleblowers is they often don't come from the right side of the aisle.
	For example, Zach Voorhees, with whom I wrote the book Google Leaks, was a Google senior engineer, and he'd been a member of the Occupy Wall Street crowd.
	And, you know, he'd gone to protests and everything.
	And then after the 2016 election, after the all-hands meeting, you know, in which they basically cried about the fact that Trump had won, he started thinking that...
	Man, this company is not serving everybody.
	Google is supposed to be an organic search engine, and they're curating their results.
	And what that means is they're giving a certain version of the truth, and it's skewed to Silicon Valley values, which are very left-wing and quite strange to a lot of Americans.
	Was CNN ever good?
	Oh, absolutely.
	And I think that the first chapter of my book is essentially a love letter to Ted Turner and his idea that whenever there was a controversy, he wanted to have the smartest person on the left, debate the smartest person on the right, and then let the public decide.
	You know, I have to also acknowledge that Ted Turner was a deeply troubled man.
	He had a terrible upbringing.
	His father would beat him for the slightest misbehaviors that he did.
	And it was really remarkable.
	And even so far as when Ted Turner would disappoint his father a great deal.
	His father would have Ted beat him as, like, the ultimate punishment.
	Oh, my God.
	Ted Turner was...
	You know, in a lifetime of hearing six stories, that ranks very high.
	Yeah.
	He had the son beat him?
	Yes, because he said, you've disappointed me so much.
	That's actually worse.
	It's absolutely terrible, and so...
	Ted had a lot of problems, and it's remarkable to me that even with all those problems, he created this wonderful network with these values.
	And in 2004...
	But wasn't he, forgive me, wasn't he a man of the left?
	I mean, for example, environmentally, he said he regretted having as many children as he had.
	Because they're polluters.
	Yeah, 100%.
	All right, we'll come back to that in a moment.
	I want to remind everybody, this is fascinating.
	This was CNN. Kent Heckenlively is in studio with me, co-authored it with Carrie Porch, and it is short and powerful.
	The video is very interesting.
	It is the argument that mockery can be moral.
	It can be immoral, like...
	Virtually every act a human can engage in can be moral or immoral.
	Killing can be moral, can be immoral, everything.
	Sex can be moral, sex can be immoral.
	There is no, I can't think of any, virtually, maybe torture is the only one, although Alan Dershowitz has made the point that if somebody has poisoned the water for an entire city, And you can stop it by getting the information on how to stop the poison from leaking into the water.
	Is torture even then moral?
	Anyway, it's a very powerful video on the subject of mockery.
	In studio with me is Kent Heckenlively, who is co-authored with Carrie Porch.
	This was CNN. So we were talking about, I asked you, was it ever good?
	And you mentioned that in the early days with Ted Turner, he had a commitment to actually making it a neutral network.
	Is that correct?
	What happened?
	He got kicked out, 2004. By whom?
	It was purchased by Warner Media, and he was supposed to be an advisor to them, and he said basically in a 2004 interview with Mike Wallace, they kicked me out.
	It was the worst thing I ever did.
	I have absolutely no influence over CNN. Who owned it before Warner?
	I believe it was Ted Turner's organization.
	Oh, so they agreed to sell it to Warner?
	Yep.
	Oh, that's what he said when he said it was a big mistake.
	Worst mistake of his life, he said.
	Who owns it now?
	Well, it's Warner Media, and now it's been purchased by Discovery.
	John Malone and Chris Licht are running the network, and what's really interesting is when I started writing the book, Jeffrey Zucker was in charge of the organization, and...
	We never imagined he would get fired, but he did.
	And John Malone and Chris Licht are actually on record as saying they're trying to move CNN back to the center.
	But they're having a lot of problems with their hosts and news people who don't want that to be done.
	And it remains to be seen whether that's going to happen.
	CNN's ratings are in free fall because, as I say, once you lie to people and you admit that you lie to them, then it's really difficult for them to trust you again.
	MSNBC has higher ratings.
	I'm not kidding.
	Yeah.
	That was the last thing I read.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's just an absolute freefall.
	So I think the book is probably well-timed.
	And strangely, I feel like the criticisms, I'm actually kind of considering whether I should send a copy of the book to John Malone and Chris Licht and say, you know...
	Look, I'm a critic of CNN, but I'm not an enemy of CNN. I would like to see a really good, objective news station and see if they would have me on at CNN talking about the book.
	I think that would show that they actually were committed.
	I'm just curious, because I used to be on his show with some degree of regularity, Don Lemon.
	Oh.
	And that ended, obviously.
	Are you following his career?
	Has that been a...
	A downward move for his career to be on this morning show?
	I believe it's definitely a downward move.
	I think they're moving him out the way they've been moving out a lot of other people.
	And the question is whether they can save the ship.
	I think it's an open question, and if you ask me to bet, I'd say 60-40 that I don't think they're going to be able to save the network.
	Do you have any analysis of Wolf Blitzer?
	You know, from what Kerry had told me, Wolf Blitzer always seemed to be a really good guy.
	He interacted with all of them.
	He had nothing but words of praise for Wolf Blitzer.
	So, can you read his mind?
	Was he okay with the leftward lurch of CNN? I don't think I'm capable of reading his mind.
	I've always wondered about that.
	I knew him from the very beginning.
	So, let's go to, the subtitle is How Sex, Lies, and Spies Undid the World's Worst News Network.
	So, you choose, sex, lies, or spies.
	I want to go to spies.
	Spies for 20, Dennis.
	Right.
	So what was really interesting is in my two previous books with Project Veritas, Whistleblowers, I was really looking deeply at the whistleblowers themselves because I think that oftentimes in this area, you know, we get focused on the negative things and it seems overwhelming.
	And I've just found these whistleblowers to be some of the most courageous people I could ever hope to meet.
	And I really want to honor their stories.
	And the publisher had said, you know, we need to go a little bit deeper than their stories.
	So what I did was I ended up hiring one of the world's best group of researchers and said, can you do a deep dive into CNN?
	I have a number of questions.
	And one of the things that they came back to me, which was...
	Not what I was expecting was that we identified 21 individuals at CNN who have significant intelligence backgrounds.
	And the question is, how is it that a journalist can have an intelligence background?
	Now, let's talk about some of these examples.
	And also the question, and it's an open question because I think you can have many different...
	You know, suspicions, and I try to be really clear in saying, here's the evidence, and here are my suspicions.
	Here's what I think, but here's what I can prove.
	So, let's talk about Jim Sacudo.
	Jim Sacudo is their national security correspondent.
	So, he's the person that we expect to tell us, you know, what other countries are doing and what our country is doing, right?
	So, from December 2011 to May 2013, He was the chief of staff and special advisor to Gary Locke at our embassy in Beijing, China.
	And what my researchers have said to me is, my God, how can this person who's a national security advisor also have been the chief of staff at the U.S. embassy in Beijing, China?
	Because what that means is he had to sign security oaths saying, I can't reveal this information, so are you telling me?
	Well, all right.
	I want to hear.
	Obviously, we'll be back.
	I've got to promote your book because it's an important book.
	This was CNN, Kent, Heck, and Lively.
	We're back in a moment.
	Welcome to the Dennis Prager Show, everybody.
	Hour three of the show today.
	Hope you had a good weekend.
	Did you know that the Chinese balloon...
	According to what I read, was the size of two buses.
	People think balloon, they think this little thing.
	Two buses is pretty big.
	I don't have an answer, because unfortunately I trust nothing that comes out of this particular administration.
	And for those of you who will counter, well, nobody lied as much as...
	Donald Trump, if you actually care about truth, you'll know that that itself is a lie.
	That all he told were lies.
	I know the Washington Post had a list of 2,000 lies he told.
	2,000?
	I thought it was more than that.
	I thought it was more than that.
	Maybe it was 2,500.
	2,500?
	Yeah.
	Anyway, I went through some of it.
	It's somewhat preposterous.
	When it came to helping America, he was pretty honest, actually.
	In any event, I don't trust the answer.
	They were afraid to shoot it down.
	Lest it hurt civilians on the ground.
	Oh, I was way off.
	30,572?
	Three.
	573?
	Yeah, the last one was really tangential.
	30,000 lies?
	Yeah, well, it sounds very effective.
	Somebody should document how many lies the Washington Post and New York Times have told.
	Because they're much...
	They dwarf all 30,000 alleged lies.
	I read to you last week about the report.
	I still find it amazing that came out of the Columbia School of Journalism, the Columbia Journalism Review, about how much the New York Times and Washington Post lied, and they got the Pulitzer Prize for lying with regard to the Russian collusion story.
	To the best of my knowledge, the New York Times has not covered the Columbia Journalism Review article, and the Washington Post has announced how proud it is of its coverage.
	Talking about the Pulitzer Prize, by the way, I saw a movie this weekend called Mr. Jones.
	Did you see it?
	Very powerful.
	You should all see the movie Mr. Jones.
	Aside from being a superb movie in and of itself, it is a true story about a man who told the truth about the Soviet starvation of Ukrainians in what is called the Holodomor, the Ukrainian equivalent to the Holocaust.
	And it was without being over the top, it was truth-telling.
	About families that ate their children, for example.
	I know all about this stuff.
	This was my field of study.
	And the Pulitzer Prize was given to Walter Durante, who was a completely corrupt New York Times reporter in Moscow who had orgies in his Stalin supply department while lying about the Soviet Union.
	He lied about the Soviet Union.
	His motto, as was Lenin's, was, in order to make omelets, you have to break eggs.
	Of course, they never made an omelet.
	They broke a lot of eggs under communism, but they didn't make an omelet.
	So there was actually a reporter who went to Ukraine.
	And he found the truth, reported it.
	Walter Durante called him a liar in the New York Times.
	And they have never rescinded the Pulitzer Prize for him.
	They won't rescind the Pulitzer Prize for the New York Times again about lying about what they call Russiagate.
	The New York Times is not committed to truth.
	It's committed to an agenda.
	And that's it.
	Just so you need to know that.
	I get the New York Times because it's important to read what the left thinks.
	Just as I used to read Pravda regularly, which is the only reason I learned Russian.
	I wanted to read Pravda, the Soviet communist newspaper.
	I have a very strange knowledge of Russian.
	I could say the Soviet Union condemns...
	The Israeli aggression against the peace-loving people of the Arab world.
	But I can't say I would like a tuna sandwich.
	I speak Pravda Russian.
	How are you?
	I condemn your aggression.
	Oh, well.
	You gotta learn what you gotta learn.
	I want to say a word about...
	What was...
	Gareth Jones?
	Was that his first name?
	The reporter who told the truth, and then he was murdered by the Soviets in Mongolia before his 30th birthday.
	I am increasingly convinced of something about the human race.
	Every generation produces a tiny percentage.
	of people who love truth and goodness and who have the courage to fight for it.
	A very small percentage of humanity.
	I think it produces more evil people.
	The bell curve is not really symmetrical.
	I think it produces more people like those in the Mexican cartels.
	People who thrive on butchery of human beings.
	Then it does produce Gareth Jones's.
	But it does seem to do that.
	Every generation does seem to do that with a tiny number of people.
	I'm glad that Gareth Jones's story, which I had vaguely recalled and then realized it was a true story, the film.
	There is a Jewish legend.
	That in every generation, there are 36 righteous people.
	And that if the number ever fell to 35, the world would implode.
	And it's a profound legend.
	And I increasingly understand the truth of it.
	There is a small percentage of people with the courage to fight evil.
	And this man, out of nowhere, he just did it.
	It depicts a scene in Ukraine when he was there where he ate tree bark, which is true.
	Tree bark is a staple in North Korea, for example.
	I debated a rabbi last year in...
	In Los Angeles.
	It's on YouTube.
	You should watch it.
	He had written an article that human nature is basically good.
	Among the single stupidest beliefs a human being can have.
	I find it indefensible for an adult to believe such a thing.
	It means the adult wants to remain a child.
	He was a very nice guy.
	So this is not an attack on him, although it obviously is not praise.
	But my point is not to attack him.
	It's to attack anybody who, as an adult, believes people are basically good.
	It is widespread among Americans because Americans have it so good that they think that that is the norm in the human race.
	That's another reason people need to know about Auschwitz and Gulag and the Holodomor.
	And the Great Leap Forward in China has only killed about 60 million people.
	And I always remind people, when you hear that figure, you must multiply it by about five at least, probably ten, maybe more, to understand the horror.
	For every person starved to death by Mao or Stalin, there are the rest of his family, there's the extended family, And there are all his friends, or her friends.
	The ripple effect of these monstrous crimes then reaches to a billion.
	And you think people are basically good?
	Well, anyway, you should see it's called Mr. Jones.
	It's not an ad.
	And if they did advertise, I'd be more than happy to plug it regularly.
	You should see it.
	People need to know about evil.
	They think America's evil.
	Systemically racist America.
	Why do so many black Africans want to move to the United States if it's so racist?
	Have an answer to that one?
	Of course you don't have an answer to that one.
	The left has no answer to that one.
	The beauty about being on the left is nobody asks it.
	That's why they don't want conservatives on campuses.
	But we will be at Arizona State University, Charlie Kirk and I, and Robert Kiyosaki.
	You can get tickets at DennisPrager.com this Wednesday night.
	Well, all right, everybody.
	So, if we could sell out the place in Arizona State.
	That will be a real statement.
	So if you're in Arizona, I already got a call last hour.
	I was taking carloads of people to Tempe.
	I salute Arizona State for inviting us.
	I salute Arizona State for inviting a number of conservatives to speak.
	Apparently, according to three professors who defend our right to come against 35 professors who condemn the university, they've had a fair number of conservative speakers at ASU.
	Isn't it amazing that you have to praise the university for having conservative speakers come in?
	But that is the case.
	I was reading to you last hour.
	I have to finish it because I'll tell you why it's so important.
	This Norway story.
	That this professor at this university has declared that white paint, which was developed apparently in Norway with titanium dioxide, is racist.
	So the author in the American Spectator writes, then there's the question of what we mean by white.
	Needless to say, the hue of titanium white paint has nothing on earth to do with the color of anybody's skin.
	Not even the palest albino is titanium white.
	The real skin color of so-called Caucasians varies enormously.
	If you use the term found in Ingrid Sundberg's widely reposted color thesaurus, you'll find that white people can qualify as, among others, cream, ivory, eggshell, tan, sand, latte, honey, apricot, sandstone, rose, or salmon.
	I must say I am closer to salmon than to white.
	I now have an answer.
	Because I'm of the pink race.
	Next time I have to fill in race, I'm putting in salmon.
	That's a good one.
	Alan, what are you?
	You look more like sandstone.
	Yeah, sandstone.
	My God, you're chiseled.
	You're a living sculpture.
	What was Adam Carolla's comment?
	The Easter Island.
	The Easter Island.
	Exactly.
	Oh, it's sick.
	The same goes for blacks.
	Even the very blackest people aren't really black, but mahogany or mocha or chocolate.
	Alan, his producer, the guy who runs the whole thing, who's somewhere between my mom and an Easter Island head in terms of gregariousness and encouragement.
	Listen, Alan, when all is said and done, very few people have been described by Adam Carolla.
	That's an honor.
	You do take it.
	Okay, good.
	Unlike the U.S. and other New World countries, Norway never was a market for African slaves.
	So what?
	Right?
	It's still racist because it's white.
	Similarly, unlike many of its fellow European nations, Norway never had an intercontinental empire.
	So what?
	Do you understand?
	This professor would have nothing to do if she didn't make up racism in Norway.
	She would have no purpose in life.
	Thus we have the absurd spectacle of a professor in Norway who pretends that Norway somehow shares in the supposedly immense and indelible Western responsibility for the depredations of imperialism.
	Halland, the professor, puts it this way, although Norway is not a conventional colonial power, it has played a globally leading role in establishing white as a superior color.
	Okay.
	Anyway, I will leave that for now.
	Next time you see white paint, please be aware that titanium dioxide is the mother of racism.
	Why do I bring this to your attention?
	One, to show you how toxic American ideas have gone around the world.
	But even a bigger one is there's so little racism.
	That's the key for you to understand.
	Why are there so many race hoaxes?
	Why do I have reason to assume that if there is anti-black graffiti spray-painted on a black kid's dorm door, that the odds are that either a leftist student or a black student has done the graffiti and not a white racist?
	Talking about that, did you know...
	Where did this take place where this doctor was hit by a car and then stabbed to death?
	Where did that take place?
	Oh, down here in Southern California.
	This happened this past weekend.
	And it was a black man who hit him with the car, then got out of the car and stabbed him to death.
	So I'm curious, if a white man had done this to a black man, Hit him with his car and then gone over and stabbed him to death.
	Do you think you would know about it?
	That, my dear friends, is what is known as a rhetorical question.
	That is all you would know about.
	It would make more headlines or equal headlines to the Chinese balloon.
	But you don't know about it, or the odds are you don't know about it, because it goes in the other direction.
	And that's the way the news is reported.
	President Trump was correct.
	The fake news.
	And that drove them crazy.
	But that's exactly what you get, fake news.
	To give you an idea of how widespread the toxicity is, here's Omaha, Nebraska.
	That's the middle of the middle of the heartland.
	That's the heart of the heartland, right?
	An Omaha, Nebraska University ordered a student organization to remove political posters depicting guns and slogans that some found offensive.
	The College Fix reported that Creighton University has a ban on pro-Second Amendment posters.
	Members of the Young Amendment, anyway, you can't show a gun.
	On a poster discussing gun control from a conservative standpoint.
	Well, the good news is we're fighting back.
	I will describe some of the fight with regard to Disney when we come back.
	I played for you an unbelievably anti-white, anti-American, and anti-truth video just put out by Disney.
	Hi everybody, Dennis Prager here.
	It's very fitting that I'm having Bill Donohue on, who's the president of the Catholic League, involved in making this documentary, Walt's Disenchanted Kingdom, because I played for you in its entirety the nearly two-minute video that Disney has just put out now, which is one gigantic lie and hate-filled video against whites and against America.
	If you patronize anything that Disney does, Disney World, Disneyland, Disney Channel, Disney products, then you have contributed to the hurting of America in a substantial way.
	So I congratulate you, my friend Bill.
	Bill and I go back, I believe it's the Civil War, is that correct?
	I was just telling your assistant there.
	I think it was back to the 1980s when I was a professor in Pittsburgh.
	We hooked up that.
	This country was built on slavery.
	I just love your courage and your brilliance.
	Keep it up.
	Well, coming from you, it's a big compliment.
	I thank you very much.
	So tell us about Walt's disenchanted kingdom.
	Yes, I mean, like most people, I grew up loving Disney.
	I was even asked by a nun in the seventh grade, who was your most famous person?
	And I said, the person I love the most is Walt Disney, for all the obvious reasons, making people happy.
	And to see it change, I did notice some changes when they acquired Miramax and making anti-Catholic movies as a distributor for ABC, and Disney owned them.
	But it's only been in the last so many years that it's just completely...
	Gone, like the top echelons of the military and the Forbes 500, healthcare industry.
	I'm not talking about the rank and file.
	I'm talking about the elites, the ruling class.
	They've now bought into this woke culture.
	But what really tipped the scales for me is when you start going after the kids.
	I mean, that's got to be off limits.
	And I commend people like Andrew Sullivan and others who say, listen, this thing has gone too far like that.
	And we need more voices like that from the gay community and others.
	But when you start targeting kids at the age of five, saying that, you know, kindergarten through third, that's five through eight, I taught those little kids at one time in Spanish Harlem.
	And I can tell you, when you start telling them, listen, are you really happy being a boy or a girl?
	Maybe you should question that.
	And we know where that kind of leads.
	And then to submarine the...
	The parental rights, which is what led to DeSantis, the governor of Florida, to fight back.
	I said, this has gone too far.
	I asked Tony Perkins, the great evangelical leader, I said, would you be willing to meet with me, to meet with Bob Chapek at that time as the CEO of Disney?
	And he said, absolutely.
	So we wrote to him and we said, listen, all we'd want to do is provide our side as Christian leaders.
	And of course, we got no response.
	At that point, I said to Tony, I said, I can't take this any longer.
	We've got to do something.
	And that's why we decided to do the documentary.
	So who's running Disney now?
	Who's making these decisions?
	Well, some people would say you've got the radical element within, as employees, within Disney.
	And that is true.
	But they're a minority, quite frankly.
	We highlight the number of gays, for example, who work there and who don't want anything to do with this.
	That's part of it.
	The president of Disney is a woman who's got some trans kids and the like, and I think sometimes the personal becomes political.
	Then you've got the push from BlackRock and others with this whole idea of equity and diversity.
	Wait, what does BlackRock have to do with this?
	Well, because they're shareholders, and these people listen to them.
	And so that's just it.
	I mean, there's a financial element, there's an ideological element, and of course it's considered to be very chic.
	I mean, just look at the Grammys of what happened last night and the way these people act.
	It's considered to be chic to be tolerant of people who are profoundly intolerant of others in our society, but those others tend to be observant Jews, evangelical Protestants, Muslims, Mormons, traditional Catholics, people of faith who hold to traditional moral values.
	So we're not entitled to respect or we're not included.
	They keep talking about inclusion.
	Why didn't they include Tony Perkins and Bill Donahue then?
	To meet with Bob Chapek.
	Why do we get excluded in the name of inclusion?
	So, again, by name, who is this woman now, and what is her position at Disney?
	She's the president.
	I forget her name.
	Okay, fine.
	So the president, and Chapek is CEO? No, Chapek has left Bob Iger, who was the previous...
	CEO for a long time, and who worked, quite frankly, it's not my opinion.
	It's well out there.
	He worked to basically subvert the best interest of Bob Chapek.
	He wanted the job back, and he got it back.
	I don't trust either one of them.
	But there's more than just a few there.
	Obviously, as you mentioned in the lead-up to this, the whole thing with the 16-19 mentality, critical race theory, it's all conjoined.
	I mean, the left is consumed, as you know, with two things.
	Race and sex.
	Yeah, hold it there.
	Hold it there.
	I want to continue.
	One moment.
	Bill Donahue, the head of the Catholic League, and one of those who's made this.
	You can see it at SalemLive.com, and it's free.
	Walt's Disenchanted Kingdom.
	Dennis Prager here.
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