So he wrote a book, Call Sign Extortion 17, The Shootdown of SEAL Team 6. Based on that book is the new documentary Fallen Angel.
And it's at SalemNow.com.
Did you make this film?
The film was made by Stephen Spivey and Carl Horstman, one of the filmmakers, Stephen Spivey's RPN Films.
Carl Horstman runs Triple Horse Studios.
In Atlanta, the Atlanta area, and they are a pretty well-known filmmaker now in the area.
So I'm one of many folks who was interviewed for the film.
I see.
Probably in it a couple of times, as you'll see.
But it was a team effort.
We had 30 U.S. Army Rangers come up from Fort Benning to take part in the film.
God bless them.
They were really professionals.
We had folks come forward who, after my book came out, Dennis, you know, everybody says conspiracy theory, conspiracy theory.
I was hoping that when my book came out, people would come forward, and people have come forward, because of my book and for other reasons.
And so we interviewed a U.S. Air Force officer who saw the events leading up to the shoot-down.
We interviewed, or the filmmakers, I should say, Stephen Spivey and Carl Hortzman interviewed.
U.S. Navy mortician who received the bodies when they came in, interviewed U.S. Army Ranger who were first on the ground.
The interviews are riveting.
And I think the filmmakers do a great job of, for the first time, letting the nation know who these guys were, these 30 Americans.
I mean, there's a dual tragedy here.
One, we don't know who these guys are.
You know, say their names, my goodness, they're the best that we've had to offer.
And then, two, the inexplicable chain of flip-flops and hide-the-ball tactics.
So, I don't know if you're free to give away...
Well, first of all, is there anything to give away?
Does your film come to a resolution?
The film comes to a resolution in one respect by giving honor to the fallen, as it should.
But there are more questions than there are answers.
We have more answers than we did when my book came out.
But the film and the book raise even more questions that the Pentagon doesn't tell us.
And, of course, no book and no film can cover the whole story.
Right.
So what is your theory, even beyond the specific questions, why did this happen?
Why would anybody at the Pentagon hide what the Taliban did?
Dennis, my theory is that there could very well have been a green-on-blue attack inside that chopper.
There was a switch out.
You know, I did not know what I'm going to write.
What is green-on-blue?
Green-on-blue means an Afghan ally attacking our American force.
Oh, there were Afghan allies on that chopper?
Well, there are Afghans on board the chopper, yes.
And the thing that I did not realize at this time in the war on terror in 2011, we were forcing our special operators, our U.S. Navy SEALs, U.S. Army Rangers primarily, to fly these missions.
With Afghan commandos, we call them APUs.
And you can see, because I reviewed 1,250 pages of the military record that had been declassified in testimony from our Navy SEALs and our Rangers, they did not want to fly these guys.
They were not reliable.
And not only that, but there were a rash of green-on-blue attacks whereby the Afghans would shoot our guys in the back.
back.
We even had a major general, Major General Green, who was shot in 2014 by Afghan bodyguards and killed.
No one was beyond, you know, them switching on a moment's notice.
And not only that, Dennis, but there were seven Afghans who were swapped out on board this chopper, and their names had not matched a flight manifest.
We then found out that there was some bad blood between the Afghans and the Seals.
Why would the Pentagon seek to suppress these facts?
Well, Well, I believe, if you stop and think about it, 2011, a year before the 2012 presidential election, and I'm speculating at this point, but based upon, there's a lot of circumstantial evidence, in my opinion, that points toward an internal attack on that chopper.
Why?
Because it could be politically embarrassing on multiple fronts.
You know, if you have Afghan forces attack, you know...
Pulling the trigger on an internal bomb or getting to a firefight with Navy SEALs inside that chopper, number one, it blows away the theory that they're as reliable as the Obama administration wanted us to believe.
It's extremely embarrassing from that standpoint.
It would be a political embarrassment to the Karzai administration at the time.
And the disappearance of the black box, there's an inexplicable disappearance of that helicopter's black box, which contained a voice, a cockpit voice recorder, which would have told us what happened.
Remember, this helicopter was hanging in the air for seven minutes longer than it should have been hanging in the air.
When we're flying these missions at night, these CH-47s, their dual rotor is one on the front, but they're very, very loud.
If they hang in the air and aren't moving, they attract noise.
Of course, they're a target.
They become targets, right.
And inexplicably, we lost contact, radio contact, for 10 minutes with this chopper.
Wow.
There's no reason that should happen.
So something happened inside the chopper.
Yeah, right?
I believe so.
You asked me what I thought happened.
I believe that may have happened.
I can tell you this.
Since then, Billy Vaughn, who's one of our Gold Star followers, and I have worked with members of the Congress in 2017. We went up and met with the late Congressman Walford Jones, who was on the House Armed Services Committee.
We met with former Congressman Duncan Hunter, who, as you know, is no longer the Congress, but was also on the Armed Services Committee, and with Congressman Brian Mass from Florida.
We talk about this case, and Congressman Jones contacted Matt Thornberry, who's the chair of the Armed Services Committee, and they put several questions to the Pentagon, okay?
One of the questions, see, they brought the bodies of the Afghans back, or they brought the remains back here to Dover Air Base.
And so one of the basic questions put to the Pentagon was what happened to the body of the Afghans.
The question is this.
From the House Armed Services Committee to the Pentagon, Simply this.
Are there Afghans buried at Arlington?
Okay?
That was one of seven or eight questions.
All right.
You know what?
We're going to do a part two.
It is too much to ask.
I've got to remind people, you can see this brand-new documentary, Fallen Angel, at SalemNow.com.