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Knew Better Than to Condone
00:04:16
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| Young woman here, she's going to be a senior at Harvard, and I witnessed truly a metamorphosis, a transformative moment, as I called it last segment, when she debated whether to come on my show and knew that she would have health to pay among her peers. | |
| Young people want to be loved by peers. | |
| Old people want to be loved by the New York Times. | |
| People want to be loved by the wrong people. | |
| Everybody likes being loved. | |
| It's normal. | |
| But if you're loved by unimpressive people, there's something unimpressive about you. | |
| So, she knew, and she didn't know how bad it would be, as it turns out, and I'm learning that now. | |
| Coming on my show, That would be known at her school, among peers, etc. | |
| So, you said off the air that they were two of the toughest weeks of your life after you appeared on this show. | |
| Yes. | |
| You want to get our mic on there? | |
| It was. | |
| Yes. | |
| Right. | |
| Describe it in more detail. | |
| Well, I think at that point, I really was... | |
| I was at the beginning of my journey with conservatism. | |
| So I found PragerU. | |
| I read your books. | |
| And I wasn't yet. | |
| I have read so much more now. | |
| Again, as I said last segment, I'm so much more comfortable in my conservatism. | |
| But then I was just kind of at the beginning of it. | |
| So I didn't really have the tools to kind of come back at people in the way that I do now. | |
| People were just so unkind. | |
| Interestingly, when I saw the YouTube video, a lot of the people commenting on the video were actually really lovely, like a lot of your listeners, which I'm very, very grateful for. | |
| They say that people on the internet are so terrible. | |
| They actually were really lovely to me. | |
| It was the people in my life, interestingly. | |
| It was the people who I went to school with or who had... | |
| I had gone to school with or played on a sports, you know, it was those people that gave me the toughest time. | |
| And, you know, I'm a good person. | |
| I don't want to hurt other people's feelings. | |
| And it was so hard because people were, they weren't just saying that they disagreed with me. | |
| They were saying that I was condoning and supporting bigotry. | |
| And, you know, it started to get to me. | |
| And I look back and I go, Julie, how did, you know. | |
| You should have just blocked out the noise. | |
| You knew you were not doing anything wrong. | |
| But when you have such a crowd of people telling you that you are doing something so wrong, I think as any good person would, you just look inside yourself and you go, okay, did I? But again, I had a friend who said to me, Julie, you are doing what a college kid is supposed to be doing. | |
| Again, you are seeking out new perspectives. | |
| You are learning. | |
| You are evolving. | |
| You're not just catering to the party line or what you've been taught. | |
| You're seeking out different perspectives. | |
| And that is what pulled me out of it. | |
| Because I thought, you're right. | |
| You're totally right. | |
| I'm doing what any college kid is supposed to be doing. | |
| Out of curiosity, I'm interested on a personal level and obviously on a larger level. | |
| Did you actually confront any of those who attacked you for coming on the show? | |
| Yes, I did. | |
| I did. | |
| And did you ask any of them, do you have evidence to support your saying that Dennis Prager is a bigot? | |
| Well, they would point to things like your opposition gay marriage or your pro-life policy. | |
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Why They Dismiss Us
00:02:42
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| And to them, that is very, very bigoted. | |
| I happen to see it differently. | |
| I think that you have – I may disagree with you on some of those issues, but I think you have very principled stances on them. | |
| But they – here's the thing. | |
| If you just have a different policy perspective, they're immediately going to brand that as bigoted. | |
| They're not even going to listen to what your reasoning for that is. | |
| They're just going to dismiss you. | |
| And that's what I really learned. | |
| Because sometimes arguing with these people, what I've noticed is there are some people who just don't fundamentally understand conservatives. | |
| I fell into that camp before I found you. | |
| But then there are other people who blindfold themselves. | |
| They don't want to understand why conservatives have these arguments. | |
| It's not just that they see us as villains, but they need to see us as villains. | |
| It's intrinsic to their worldview. | |
| That's why you often say that leftism is a religion of sorts to these people. | |
| It's true, because they confect these mythologies about conservatives. | |
| They refuse to see that they can have a... | |
| Opinions that are not rooted in bigotry. | |
| They see us as the satanic figures, and they see themselves as the messianic figures. | |
| It's very bizarre. | |
| They cannot accept that you have certain opinions that are not rooted in bigotry. | |
| It's unbelievable. | |
| It's really shocking. | |
| It's so interesting because the left has historically argued that they're nuanced. | |
| And we're not. | |
| I know. | |
| We're Manichean, and they're not. | |
| But it's all inverted. | |
| They are Manichean. | |
| The world is divided between light and dark, and we're dark. | |
| That's why you can't... | |
| See, there is no left-wing show. | |
| If there was a show called We Hate America, I would appear on it. | |
| I would be thrilled to appear. | |
| On a left-wing show. | |
| But they don't want to appear on our shows. | |
| Why is that? | |
| No, I'm serious. | |
| Why is that? | |
| I really think... | |
| Well, they'll say because, you know, they don't even want to give a voice to bigotry. | |
| That's their classic response. | |
| But what it really is, is they don't want to debate you. | |
| That's right. | |
| They know they don't have the ammo to do it. | |
| They don't have the ammo to do it. | |
| And they don't have truth on their side. | |
| Well, it is one joy to have you on our side. | |
| Thank you. | |