What climate science tells us, what it doesn't, why it matters.
Stephen Kunin was the top scientist in the Department of Energy in the Obama administration.
Former professor of physics at theoretical physics, to be precise, at Caltech.
And now a professor, we didn't establish, a professor of what at NYU? Well, you know, when I went to NYU, because I'd been a provost at Caltech, I had kind of been fed up with the academic tribalism.
And I said, I don't want to be a professor of anything.
I just want to be a professor.
And the provost at the time, a nice guy whom I know, well, Dave McLaughlin, said, you've got to be a professor of something.
So I'm in the civil engineering department.
I'm in the business school in technology and operations, and I've got an appointment in physics as well.
Nice.
So, the data that you gave at the end of the last segment were staggering.
If we did nothing, maybe the temperature of the world would increase one or one and a half degrees Fahrenheit.
No, centigrade.
Oh, I thought you said Fahrenheit.
No, no.
So that's about two and a half to three degrees Fahrenheit.
Right.
And let's say that happened.
What would the results be for humanity?
Well, you know, given that we've gone up by one degree centigrade or two Fahrenheit already since 1900, roughly, and the world has prospered.
It's not such a big deal.
Okay?
And even the IPCC said that.
The official reports say for a temperature rise of even up to 7 or 8 degrees Fahrenheit, the economic impact is minimal for the U.S. and the globe.
Okay?
Minimal.
You know, in the book you can find the exact text.
I'll put you on the spot, but you're certainly free to say anything.
So when we're told that Manhattan will be underwater, fires will engulf the planet, the Antarctic ice sheet will melt and rise seas seven feet, would you characterize these as lies?
I would characterize them as gross exaggerations.
You know, with the sea level at the battery in Manhattan, just to take that example.
It's going up.
It's been going up since 1850. And it's been going up at one foot a century.
Now, you know, the IPCC will say, well, in the next 80 years it could be going up a little bit.
Listen, I want to thank you for a magnificent hour and a magnificent book.