March 30, 2021 - Dennis Prager Show
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| This is a big deal. | |
| I'm speaking to Olivia Jaber. | |
| She went to Cal, that is, University of California at Berkeley. | |
| Majored in Cicero, Plato, Plutarch, and the rest of the gang. | |
| And by the way, did you specialize in Roman, or they only do Roman and Greek in any event? | |
| I specialize in Roman history. | |
| Okay. | |
| And you... | |
| Say you came out of the closet, so you then found kindred spirits, but didn't you also then find that you lost friends? | |
| Absolutely. | |
| I realized that once I started really talking about my beliefs and finding like-minded individuals when I started this publication, I | |
| am curious. | |
| Let me ask you. | |
| Did any of those who ceased being your friend, did any of them surprise you in that? | |
| Or did you say to yourself, yeah, I'm not that shocked? | |
| You know, a few of my close friends did surprise me because they were playing kind of the morality game, and I was surprised because... | |
| Someone that's known me seemingly since I was eight years old should know where my morals lie. | |
| And a lot of the friends that I had made at Berkeley that, so to speak, let me go didn't really surprise me. | |
| And that's why I really didn't feel open talking with most of my Berkeley friends about politics, because I knew what the outcome was going to be. | |
| So it was definitely... | |
| A little bit of both. | |
| It's an amazing thing to undergo. | |
| So, would you say, finally, I could talk to you for an hour, and it would be consistently interesting. | |
| Would you say, and I don't want any humility here. | |
| My interest is not complimenting you. | |
| My interest is to understand this for others. | |
| On a scale of 1 to 10, a courage scale, 10 being maximal, how much courage did it take to come out? | |
| I would say an 8 or a 9. | |
| That week that I basically announced on all my platforms as well as my two other friends that we were starting this publication was a week where I questioned everything. | |
| I was getting inundated with hate message from sorority sisters. | |
| We were getting death threats. | |
| I started to question if the things that were being said about me were true. | |
| That's why I really honestly was looking back to some PragerU five-minute videos trying to make sense of everything. | |
| And the people that I relied on in that week got me to the other side, and I have never looked back. | |
| You should write an article. | |
| I'll try to get it published for you. | |
| That would be wonderful. | |
| I would love that. | |
| Yes, about what prompted you to come out of the closet as a conservative at Berkeley and what ensued, including some of the messages that you received. | |
| I think people don't realize this. | |
| The moral game. | |
| I had that actually done. | |
| Somebody who's been in my life since I was a kid, so obviously a relative, sent me a letter, knows me pretty well, and said, how could somebody of my moral standing support Donald Trump? | |
| That I was a moral disappointment. | |
| Wow. | |
| Yeah, so it doesn't matter what your age, it doesn't matter... | |
| That's the way they are brainwashed. | |
| If you supported Donald Trump, it had nothing to do with your support of his policies and the country. | |
| But you supported a man they detest, so you must be detestable. | |
| They're simpletons aside from everything else. | |
| But anyway, so I'll just end with this. | |
| What role, and again, I want you just to be honest, I have no idea what your answer is, what role did PragerU videos play in your affirming what you believe? | |
| It played a very tremendous role in affirming what I believe. | |
| Specifically, Larry Elder, Carol Swain, just had some videos that especially with everything going on with BLM. It's very easy to get bogged down with the leftist narrative that has infiltrated every aspect of our lives. | |
| And just having people who are there to remind you of their personal stories and dispel these myths that, you know, no one wants to think they're a bad person. | |
| You need to seek out logical arguments and work to deconstruct these narratives. | |
| And they do that really well. | |
| PragerU videos were a lifeline for me, and I know that that's why so many other people love them, and that's why PragerForce community is so strong. | |
| This has been a total joy. | |
| I look forward to seeing you again, Olivia. | |
| I do as well. | |
| Thank you so much for taking the time. | |
| Thank you. | |
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