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March 16, 2021 - Dennis Prager Show
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She Left The NYT For the Sake of Freedom
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There are so many other huge issues that connect conservatives and liberals.
So go ahead.
Yeah, I was simply going to say that there are any number of topics that you and I could have a debate on for many hours and I'm sure come to some kind of stalemate.
But I feel very strongly that the fight of the moment and the fight that allows people like me and you to have those disagreements.
And still, you know, have a drink at the end of the day is liberalism, is the fight for liberalism.
You have to ask yourself, like, what are real conservatives trying to conserve?
They're trying to conserve liberalism.
And if you think, you know, whatever party you vote for, like, if you think political violence is wrong, if you think that mob justice is wrong, if you think that, you know, the presumption of innocence is fundamental to justice,
If you think that whether or not you believe in God, that everyone is created in the image of God or created equally and therefore entitled to equality under the law.
If you're skeptical of the power of a company like Amazon, even when it's clamping down on people whose ideas you might despise, well, congratulations.
We're on the same team.
I just believe that in this moment, and this was the first newsletter that I wrote, was called The Great Unraveling, and it was about, you know, it was based in a meeting that I had at Princeton with some dissident professors, including Robbie George.
Going back to gay marriage, Robbie George, one of the most articulate, outspoken opponents, not from a Jewish perspective, but from a Catholic perspective of gay marriage.
Never in my wildest dreams did I imagine I'd be sitting with Robbie George thinking about how we could collaborate on fighting illiberalism, which obviously comes from the right, of course, but is also coming from the left.
And, you know, that's kind of where I'm that's that's the place that I'm standing in right now.
And it's a place I maybe couldn't have imagined even 10 years ago.
I'm sure I'm sure you couldn't.
I think we're just I think we're living through a very significant.
Realignment and that the the things that allow.
For all of the disagreements to happen without us killing each other is the thing that right now is under threat and needs to be protected.
Right.
So do you think I've overstated it when I say that liberals voting left is a case of mass suicide?
I don't think it's a case of mass suicide to vote for someone like Max Rose in Staten Island or Richie Torres in the Bronx.
And I think there's any number of flavors within the Democratic Party.
You know, I wouldn't collapse it all into, you know, it's just, I don't know what you would say, AOC, the squad.
Yes, I think it is just that.
I think they're irrelevant because they vote with AOC. I don't care what they personally believe.
They're irrelevant.
The people you just mentioned, I speak about politics for a living and never heard of.
That's not a good sign.
No, it's not a good sign.
It's not a good sign at all.
Okay.
So, or, you know, what is our senator from West Virginia?
Joe Manchin.
Yeah, Joe Manchin.
He's a great perfect example.
There he is in the state, 60-something percent conservative, and gets elected and votes left-wing.
It's irrelevant.
A Democrat is a Democrat.
At this time, the liberal Democrat has been...
Chuck Schumer was a liberal.
He's now a leftist.
They're all indistinguishable.
So I once again restate, liberals vote suicidally.
They think I'm the enemy.
Much more than they think AOC is the enemy.
That's sick.
I'm not sure that...
Well, I guess...
I'm wondering if most liberals think you're the enemy.
I'm not sure most liberals know who you are in the same way you don't know Max Rose is, to be honest with you.
And I guess...
By the way, if most liberals don't know who I am, that proves something else.
The staggering bubble in which they live.
PragerU has over a billion views a year.
I have millions of listeners.
I had the number one selling book on Amazon when it came out, and it was a Bible commentary, no less.
Excuse me, number two book on Amazon.
Number one on the Wall Street Journal.
If they don't know who I am, it says nothing about me.
It shows you the bubble.
They never heard of Tom Sowell.
They never heard of Larry Elder.
I just utterly and completely agree with you.
And if you want to see the divide between those two things, look at the Amazon bestseller list and look at the New York Times bestseller list.
They sometimes have almost no books in common.
I guess what I would say to you is, is the goal to shame people or is the goal to convince people?
I think it's a strategic question of...
Whether you want to say to people who are sort of in the politically homeless liminal space between Tucker Carlson and Rachel Maddow, if you want to say to them, you're committing political suicide, you're idiots, and come over here and agree with me.
I'm not sure that's a winning message.
It probably isn't.
But I will not.
I cannot.
And we all have natures.
My nature is not to patronize people.
Most of my relatives vote Democrat.
Everyone to a person is a wonderful, kind, honorable person.
And when it comes to politics, they are fools.
Naive fools.
And I love them.
Human beings are complex.
By the way, my niece is a lesbian and she is married to a woman.
Let me get to the gay issue for a moment.
I believed on religious grounds, which I testified in Congress with regard to, and as you know, obviously, I believe that God wants marriage to be between a man and a woman.
I was for a civil union with every right that married people have, but I have that as a religious belief.
I want to tell you about me and gays in a moment, but I want to remind everybody, this is Barry Weiss, a woman of great courage.
And intelligence as well.
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