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Dec. 17, 2020 - Dennis Prager Show

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	Thank you.
	Mark Eisler filling in for Dennis Prager again.
	You know, we don't have many great songs, you know.
	Hanukkah Hangover?
	I think I have one more candle to light.
	So, isn't this the last day that I make a mistake?
	Hey, the way I do things, I could easily be wrong.
	It could be the ninth day for all I know.
	I'm not good at those things.
	Anyways, I do know, I have this number right, it's my 12th year finishing, filling in for Dennis, and it's always an honor, and you probably know you can reach me at markisler at aol.com, M-A-R-K-I-S-L-E-R at aol.com, or on Facebook at Mark Isler or Mark Isler Show.
	The last time I was on, I assured you President Trump had won re-election, and I was absolutely right.
	The only thing I didn't know last time was that he would win or had won by a landslide.
	And a landslide it was.
	President Trump won in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Nevada, and likely Arizona too.
	I don't know, maybe more.
	This attempt to steal the election is the greatest theft in American political history, if it stands.
	It's hard to believe the brazenness of it.
	And how many people were involved?
	I've got to admit it.
	Conspiracies are usually hard to pull off or at least to keep secret.
	The Democrats have been doing this at least since the Kennedy election.
	Do you remember that?
	In 1960. I remember my comedian friend Tom Dreesen told me the story that...
	The Kennedys dropped Frank Sinatra after he'd helped them rig it in Illinois, or I guess West Virginia.
	I'm trying to remember where they did it.
	So this has been going on a long time, but never on this scale.
	And they would have been more likely to keep it hidden, except for the fact President Trump was winning beyond their expectations.
	But maybe they had been misled.
	I was just thinking about it by their own polls, their phony polls, so they believed it too.
	But what do you need to pull this off?
	You need the opportunity.
	And they had that, certainly with the convenience of the COVID shutdown.
	And the ability to expand absentee ballots exponentially with few controls.
	Right?
	They got the laws changed in a lot of states so they could do all this to a greater extent.
	And of course, the help of cowardly Republicans, right?
	I just think of the Secretary of State in Georgia.
	What is going on there?
	Or for that matter, the governor of Georgia.
	It was almost too easy.
	And they certainly had the motive.
	After all, if you think President Trump is a racist and a Nazi, all of it is justified.
	Wouldn't all of us have done anything to stop Hitler?
	It was like a perfect crime.
	But as I said, what made it more difficult was Trump was winning by bigger margins than they had anticipated.
	So they had to go to a backup plan.
	And that they did.
	Stopping the counting in the middle of the night.
	I was up.
	I think it was about 3 a.m.
	and I was thinking, why is Wisconsin and Michigan, I was watching those two in particular, why have they stopped counting?
	You know, he's ahead by huge margins, but I just want to be sure.
	And now that they've been discovered, that should have been the end of their deceit.
	So what they did was they had to figure out how many ballots they needed to pour in there to get ahead of Trump.
	That's what was going on.
	But with a complicit press and cowardly Republicans, they have been able to keep their theft intact.
	First they said there was no evidence.
	Remember that?
	There is no evidence at all.
	Some are still trying to do that, right?
	Then they said there wasn't sufficient evidence to overturn the election.
	But there are none so blind as those who will not see.
	The fraud in these states was overwhelming.
	Thousands and thousands of ballots illegally counted in all of these subject states.
	As I said, in the dead of night.
	In fact, when I was on, I think, last time for Dennis, I quoted an article where I think there were 23 crazy anomalies or things that just didn't make sense.
	But it was all done at approximately the same time.
	And you remember other things.
	Out of state with truckloads of ballots, right?
	You had that gentleman truck driver say his truck was filled with ballots from New York, of all places, right?
	Interstate theft.
	With the Republican observers not allowed to observe and in some cases told to go home, right?
	Like in Georgia, even though they deny it.
	That doesn't count normal fraud, like putting ballots through the machines several times.
	That's a neat trick.
	With more ballots coming back than given out in certain areas.
	And so I'm not doing the complete list, I just want to go over some of these things.
	Far fewer rejected ballots now when there were many fewer ballots in the mix last time.
	Rejection rate is.0, something ridiculous.
	Backdating ballots received after the deadline.
	By the way, people always said he lost, the election's over, there's no evidence.
	There's tons of evidence.
	People swore under affidavits.
	Thousands and thousands of ballots with only Biden's name on them.
	That's amazing.
	I think it was 90-some on thousand in Georgia.
	Biden now polling Hillary.
	Everybody can understand this one.
	Biden now polling Hillary and Obama by huge margins.
	Only those areas in these crucial states.
	Everywhere else, he couldn't beat Obama or Clinton, Hillary Clinton.
	But in these important crucial swing, not swing, as much as theft-ridden areas, he outpoles them.
	Trump winning in 17 out of 18 bellwether counties.
	Every Republican member of the House winning re-election.
	State legislatures becoming more Republican.
	The first time a president received such an incredible increase in votes and lost re-election.
	And Joe Biden never campaigning with such little enthusiasm for his campaign.
	He knew he could stay in his basement because he knew the fix was in.
	Over 60, I mean, I think it's 76% of Republicans believe there was a theft.
	This is the Pew Research a week or two ago, so it may have changed.
	Over 20% of independents and even 10% of Democrats know it was stolen.
	I will never accept Joe Biden as the President of the United States.
	And I will do everything possible to resist this theft.
	And you should do the same.
	Never accept him as the legitimate President of the United States.
	They resisted President Trump at every turn, saying he was illegitimate from what?
	We went off.
	Fake Russian collusion.
	How long did that last?
	Three years or four years, for that matter?
	To purely political impeachment that began before he was even elected.
	And they have never stopped.
	They had no evidence, and we have mountains of evidence.
	There's no contest, including, as I said, sworn affidavits from people who watched the theft in person.
	And have signed these affidavits under the threat of perjury.
	There's too many.
	And then they tell you there's no evidence, because in almost every case, the courts have rejected them.
	Because of procedure or because they were hardcore activist, Democrat type judges who were appointed by Obama or whatever, Clinton.
	We must resist and agree to nothing.
	No nominees approved and no laws enacted.
	Of course, we really want that particular law.
	Hard to believe you'll get any of that with Joe Biden.
	Let me ask you something.
	If someone stole your house, would you give them the keys to your house?
	President Trump should not attend Biden's inaugural if that ever even happens.
	Probably do it in his basement, right?
	The president should probably do a rally that day.
	If nothing else, to show once again the support for President Trump as opposed to the corrupt Biden.
	And as you heard me say last time I was on, This is the lesson.
	Never give in.
	Never give in.
	Never, never, never, never, in nothing, great or small, large or petty, never give in, except to convictions of honor and good sense.
	We owe it to President Trump and even more to America.
	So go ahead, squatters in our house.
	This is going to be bad.
	This country only works with the consent of the government.
	And I have lost all faith in our government.
	Institutions.
	From obviously now the presidency, to the legislatures, to the courts.
	Either we have a republic or we don't.
	Sorry, Mr. Franklin.
	For the first time ever, I am not sure we can keep it.
	I never thought I'd say that.
	I'm the ultimate optimist.
	Let me know what you think.
	I have a number of things out there on the table for you.
	Was this election stolen?
	And if you disagree with me, tell me.
	I get it on Facebook all the time.
	People love when I post I'm going to be on for Dennis or whatever I post.
	Oh my God.
	Give it up, Mark.
	You used to be a patriot.
	You're a good talker.
	All this kind of stuff.
	He lost and that's it.
	Why won't you accept it?
	Do you think it's too late now to stop the steal?
	Will Republicans ever win again if we can't stop this theft now?
	That's another reason no one talks about much.
	What will happen in Georgia in the Senate races if nothing changes?
	Should the President ever concede?
	I don't want him to concede.
	I don't care what they say.
	There is a lot to consider, but this is the big time.
	Our country is at stake.
	Let me know what you think at 1-8-Prager-776.
	I'm Mark Eisler filling in for Dennis Prager.
	The Dennis Prager Show.
	Live.
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	Listen to what Joe Biden said about the actions like the one we saw last night in Minneapolis to literally defund the police.
	But I also don't think we should get too far ahead of ourselves on dealing with police reform in that because they've already labeled us as being Defund the police.
	Anything we put forward in terms of the organizational structure to change policing, which I promise you will occur.
	Promise you.
	Just think to yourself and give me advice whether we should do that before January 5th, because that's how they beat the living hell out of us across the country, saying that we're talking about defunding the police.
	We're not.
	We're talking about holding them accountable.
	Nothing screams holding them accountable better than stripping $8 million from the police department in Minneapolis, which of course will result in...
	Here's how this works.
	If you don't have funds for the police, if you funnel them into, I guess, mental health counselors, and good luck handling a raging, violent criminal, good luck with that if you're a mental health counselor.
	Maybe you can sit there and start singing.
	Folk music to somebody who's, you know, waving a machete around.
	Maybe you could go back and ask them if they wet the bed when they were a child as they're, you know, on a rampage.
	Oh, we're not.
	But this is a very important clip from Biden.
	You've got to know exactly his intention.
	What could we have done to change the outcome?
	Now what the Democrats did was to use the coronavirus as an excuse to loosen election rules, to make it easier and easier for people to vote, make it easier and easier for election fraud to be committed.
	And many of the things that they did were perfectly legal, underhanded but perfectly legal.
	The previous election cycle, the Republicans lost four seats in Orange County, a county that used to be reliably Republican, got wiped out in Orange County, largely because the Democrats employed a tactic known as ballot harvesting.
	Legal, underhanded, but it allows votes to be turned in later on if you've assisted a voter in filling out his or her ballot.
	Now, obviously, assisting somebody filling out his or her ballot is wrought with potential for fraud.
	But the Democrats pulled that off, and they ended up snatching victory from the jaws of defeat for these races.
	So what did Republicans do?
	They didn't go BMW. They figured out what the Democrats did and engaged in the same kind of tactics.
	And guess what?
	All four of those seats are now back in Republican hands.
	So that's what we ought to be doing.
	I told you before that the Democrats' secret weapon was they got everybody who could fog up a vote to fog up a mirror to vote.
	And in my opinion, most people who've never voted are very likely Democrats.
	I think more Republicans are far more motivated, far more aware of what's going on than your average Democrat.
	And therefore, the average non-voter or seldom voter is very likely to be a Democrat.
	And Democrats knew that.
	They went out to get them.
	Well, there are a lot of them who are Republicans, though.
	And did Republicans try and go out and get those?
	Figure out what these guys did.
	And make the arguments persuasive.
	Keep up with what's trending.
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	Is that 2020 will really go down as the year that the most powerful people on the planet, the people that have the most money,
	the most influence the most access to capital that control the most powerful companies they tried to make america in their image and they largely that that's not a hanukkah song is it Oh, you went to Christmas.
	I didn't give you my list.
	That wouldn't be one of the songs I'd give you on my Christmas list.
	I got a lot, but I never remember the names.
	Mark Eisler sitting in for Dennis Prager.
	1-8 Prager 776. If you want to respond to any of the things I was talking about, should the president concede?
	I don't think he should ever concede.
	Will Republicans ever win again if we can't stop this theft now?
	Do you think it's too late to stop the steal?
	I don't think so.
	There's still a path out there.
	But we need some courage.
	I'll talk about more of that in the second hour.
	But if they don't have courage, meaning the Republicans in Congress, if you don't know how that works, I'll let you know now for a second.
	There are different slates being sent in.
	You know, the slates signed by the governors, especially the cowardly Republican governors, and there are slates sent in by Republican electors.
	And they can be supported in the sense that one congressman and one senator has to agree to object.
	If they do that, then the House votes, as delegations, you know, it doesn't matter who has the majority in the House, and the Senate votes, but I don't trust the Republicans in the Senate.
	But Mike Pence is the parliamentarian.
	He's making all the decisions.
	I had an awkward position for him.
	So this could be battled out.
	You know, the irregularities, as Senator Johnson pointed out in his hearing yesterday, are huge.
	Finally, they're starting to acknowledge it.
	If I had a bet, I'd guess Rand Paul, I don't agree with him on some things out there, but if he did this, if he had the courage, to me it doesn't seem like it takes much courage, just to sign off on it and say, you know, we need to check this out, we need to vote.
	I think they get to speak for four hours on each state or whatever it is.
	And so the House goes by delegations.
	So we win that.
	I think it's 30 to 20. So we have 30 of the delegations in the House of Representatives, and the Democrats have 20. Now maybe Nancy Pelosi would be wise and not have it done.
	Because you know who gets this if no one is certified.
	Nancy Pelosi gets this, possibly.
	People could argue about that.
	She's third in line.
	So if you don't accept the Trump electors, then you don't accept...
	Sean is shaking.
	You're not going to leave me, are you?
	Halloween's past.
	Sean is right.
	But there are all kinds of scenarios.
	So as Jenna Ellis, the attorney for Trump, said, don't give up.
	They haven't given up.
	Of course, that's the media's attempt, too, to make you think, you know, we should give up.
	And it doesn't help to have, I'll do this as I said in the second hour, to have people like Romney, well, but he's typical, Chris Christie, and I never had much use for that guy anyway.
	You could figure these people out.
	I was a delegate years before for Romney, and Chris Christie spoke to the California delegation, and it was all about him.
	It was very little about Romney.
	He was right about that, looking back.
	But it was all about how terrific and great he was.
	I never trust that guy anyway.
	The lack of courage by Republicans is the thing that could mess this whole thing up.
	But Ron Johnson might do it.
	And Ron Paul might sign on.
	And by the way, the Democrats have done this in the past.
	I know Maxine Waters, for one, tried it last time, but she couldn't get a senator to agree with her.
	So you need both of them to sign on.
	One from the House, one from the Senate.
	And you could argue about every single state.
	And then you get them to vote.
	So the Senate decides on the Vice President.
	So, yeah, there'd be enough cowardly Republicans there that would not be interesting.
	I don't know how the law works, Sean.
	Do we get Kamala Harris's vice president then and in the House, which we'd win that, I'm reasonably confident, and get Donald Trump again?
	Now, that would be interesting.
	Oh, I know.
	Then they'd pass the 25th Amendment to get ahead of Donald Trump, right?
	So, Kamala Harris, could we...
	Look, for sports fans and others, this could be very interesting.
	This could be very exciting, just to watch what's going to happen.
	But the most important thing is we need courage on our side.
	If we don't get the courage on our side, we're finished.
	By the way, when you have someone like Mitch McConnell...
	Saying, congratulating President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Kamala Harris, if that doesn't discourage people, if it was up to me, if I didn't care about hurting America, I wouldn't even vote in Georgia, and I'm not recommending that.
	I think, you know, we still have to hope we win Georgia.
	But wouldn't that be great if he lost his power to teach him a lesson?
	Maybe he's been in the swamp all the time, too.
	You know, he's nothing but a wheeler-dealer.
	There's nothing more than I know about Mitch McConnell.
	It's worked in our favor, right, when it comes to judges.
	But other than that, where's your courage?
	How could you do this?
	How could you ignore the obvious fraud?
	And, of course, all the Democrats, those on the left, oh, Mitch McConnell is now being reasonable, and he's, you know, not that bad all of a sudden, right?
	Like Mitt Romney, the things he said.
	And who else?
	Who's the guy with names?
	Who am I thinking of?
	Is it Montana?
	No, no.
	Who is the senator that said awful things about President Trump?
	His name just escapes me right now.
	So you have, these are the people on your side.
	Yeah, I don't mean to me in Pennsylvania.
	He's retiring, so it's easy for him to say he should give up and call.
	You realize if we give this thing up, we're never going to win an election again.
	If you could get away with this theft on such a massive scale, why ever do it again?
	You know, why ever fight?
	Because we're going to lose anyway.
	If they've got the whole thing fixed, they've got the whole...
	And by the way, why is Georgia any better?
	They haven't done anything.
	Can you tell me why Governor Kemp hasn't called a special session of the Georgia legislature?
	What has he got to hide?
	Or why won't he do it?
	Call a special session and change the law.
	So what's her name in Georgia?
	Stacy...
	What's her name, Sean?
	Stacey Abrams, she said she's got a million ballots right now.
	If you still have it where they don't have to be postmarked and they don't have matching signatures, we're going to lose anyway.
	So I don't want you to have me on the wrong side here.
	I really want to win Georgia.
	I think it's really crucial that we do to keep the Senate.
	But I would love to teach Mitch McConnell a lesson.
	I'll tell you who else I'd love to teach a lesson to.
	I'd love to teach a lesson to the Supreme Court.
	Those cowards.
	Where did all that come from?
	The case was based on...
	They have original jurisdiction when one state sues another state, let alone all the attorney generals from, I don't know, 14 states, 15, 20 states.
	How could they pass on that?
	Except for Leto and Clarence Thomas.
	How could you do that?
	You have to take up the case and say it has no standing.
	Of course it has standing.
	It's right there in the Constitution.
	I forget the section.
	Where it says only the state legislatures can make law.
	What are they talking about?
	How could they not take that case up?
	And you want to know the answer?
	They had no courage.
	That's my best guess.
	They had no courage.
	They see what's going on out there with the riots and all the threats and everything else.
	And as Dennis says all the time, the shortest thing in supply for people on a personal basis is courage.
	And they had no courage.
	That's what happened there.
	There's no way.
	They were afraid if they gave the election, obviously, to Donald Trump, when you look at all the irregularities, oh, we'd have riots and protests.
	Maybe they'd march around their house.
	Their kids would be threatened.
	That's not what they're supposed to do.
	They're the Supreme Court of the United States.
	They're supposed to adjudicate between states.
	They can't let the state legislatures or judges, state Supreme Court as in Pennsylvania, they can't make the law unilaterally, rigged as it was.
	Let me know what you think.
	1-8-Prager-776.
	We've got to stop it now, even with the chipmunks playing.
	I'm Mark Eisler filling in for Dennis Prager.
	Trending now on America First with Sebastian Berger.
	Let's look at the last four years.
	So...
	Let's look at the last 40 years and ask the question that a former communist revolutionary asked.
	What is to be done?
	Well, that question must be approached with an adequate understanding of what happened four years ago in 2016. Because it was such a strange occurrence.
	Something that no man or woman could have predicted.
	How a reality TV star who was really, really not a member of the Manhattan jet set, who was rejected by that jet set for the longest time until a certain member Of that community took him under her wing.
	That individual who'd never run for political office before, who toyed with the idea of being a mayor or even running for president, decided to come down those escalators with his beautiful wife.
	And most people, almost everyone, except, you know, the odd caller to our show, wrote it off.
	as a publicity stunt.
	It's something to be laughed at until he defeated every single, what was it, 16 or 17 GOP candidates, most of whom were just processed politicians from within the so-called swamp.
	Keep up with what's trending.
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	Trending now on the Mike Deliger Show.
	Listen to what Joe Biden said about the actions like the one we saw last night in Minneapolis to literally defund the police.
	But I also don't think we should get too far ahead of ourselves on dealing with police reform in that because they've already labeled us as being Defund the police.
	Anything we put forward in terms of the organizational structure to change policing, which I promise you will occur.
	Promise you.
	Just think to yourself and give me advice whether we should do that before January 5th, because that's how they beat the living hell out of us across the country, saying that we're talking about defunding the police.
	We're not.
	We're talking about holding them accountable.
	Nothing screams holding them accountable better than stripping $8 million from the police department in Minneapolis, which of course will result in...
	Here's how this works.
	If you don't have funds for the police, if you funnel them into, I guess, mental health counselors, and good luck handling a raging, violent criminal, good luck with that if you're a mental health counselor.
	Maybe you can sit there and start singing.
	Folk music to somebody who's, you know, waving a machete around.
	Maybe you could go back and ask them if they wet the bed when they were a child as they're, you know, on a rampage.
	Oh, we're not.
	But this is a very important clip from Biden.
	You've got to know exactly his intention.
	Keep up with what's trending.
	Subscribe on YouTube today.
	Trending now on The Hugh Hewitt Show.
	Is there anybody in the business of film criticism who you admire for their craft?
	I like Joe Mogerski with Wall Street Journal.
	Um...
	Mark, I just want to pray here.
	That's one of my favorites.
	Now we're getting with the Christmas spirit.
	It's only a week away.
	Well, Hanukkah and Christmas were very close this time.
	I mean, Dennis acknowledges that Hanukkah songs are not as good as Christmas songs.
	No, I celebrate Christmas music.
	When I was a kid, we had Christians in our family by marriage and stuff like that.
	We celebrated both all the time.
	Yeah, that's true.
	A lot of the great Christmas music was written by Jews.
	Probably secular Jews because, well, who knows?
	Alright, the board is filled.
	I'll get to you in a little bit.
	Here's an amazing statistic.
	This Christmas, just eight days from now, is that correct?
	Eight days from now?
	Is that accurate?
	That's pretty good.
	2.7 million children will spend the holidays separated from their incarcerated parents.
	Angel Tree is a program of the non-profit Prison Fellowship that serves parents behind bars by equipping you and me to share the love of Jesus with prisoners, children, and families.
	James Ackerman is the president of Prison Fellowship.
	We're to buy Christmas gifts for the own children.
	But the genius of Angel Tree is that we are purchasing the Christmas gift on behalf of the incarcerated parent.
	As James Ackerman points out, children of prisoners should not be punished for the misdeeds of a parent.
	They deserve to experience the love of Christ that only you could make happen.
	Please help make sure these precious kids are not forgotten.
	Just go to DennisPrager.com.
	And for a gift of just $220, you can bless 10 children, that's a lot, of prisoners with special Christmas presents and a personal note from their incarcerated parents.
	Boy, that has to be special.
	Plus, every Angel Tree family is also given access to a free, easy-to-read copy of the Bible in English or Spanish.
	Or you can phone your donation to Dennis' Angel Tree Campaign Hotline at 888-206-2801.
	That's 888-206-2801.
	In these final days of the holiday season, you'll be blessed as you help make the child of an American prisoner experience the joy of Christmas by joining our campaign for Prison Fellowship's Angel Tree this year.
	And we all thank you.
	I think that's a great cause.
	I really do.
	Well, who do I go to first, as you all want to express?
	Okay, let's go to, I think the name is Day.
	Sean, punch that up.
	I'm having some trouble with my mouse.
	It's one of those days.
	Hi, Day.
	It's Mark.
	You're on with Mark.
	Hi.
	Hi, how are you?
	Thank you so much for taking my call.
	Sure.
	I just wanted to say, I'm from Louisville, Kentucky, and I'm very, very disappointed in Senator McConnell, and I called to express my disappointment in him, and I think that's something that everybody that is one of his constituents needs to call and say, you know, because Kentucky overwhelmingly voted for President Trump, and he needs to know who he works for, and it's his constituents.
	And also, I think we need to call Senator Paul and those who are standing up.
	Great point.
	It is something that, you know, can affect their families and everything to stand up.
	But we need to thank them and show our support for them for standing up and continuing to fight.
	Okay, were you as angry as I was when I heard that he came out and congratulated, you know, President-elect Biden?
	I just want that.
	I was beside myself.
	I mean, I called.
	It took me all day to finally get through to his Louisville office.
	And I told him, I thought that, you know, it was a travesty that he was basically selling our country out to the communists.
	He's a wheeler dealer.
	That's what, thanks for your call.
	He's nothing more than a wheeler dealer.
	That's what it comes down to.
	So how can you respect people like that?
	Yeah, you like them when he gets the court nominees through.
	But how about when he does something like this?
	He's figured it out.
	He's worked with Joe Biden.
	You know, he wants to get along with him.
	He'll get some legislation passed.
	Hey, you're selling out the country.
	You're absolutely right.
	You're selling out the country.
	It amazes me, and you had a great point day.
	I did call up Romney's office.
	I was a delegate for him, and I can't stand that guy, and I left a message.
	But we ought to congratulate Ron Paul, or at least he hasn't announced it officially he'll do it, but urge him on.
	And I think, you know, others will do it too.
	Where are some of the people I like?
	Like John Kennedy of Louisiana and some of the others.
	You guys got to stand by.
	He's the one that made all this possible.
	How could you not stand by President Trump?
	I don't get any of this stuff.
	Loyalty is big.
	In the third hour, I'm going to do a tribute to Bruce Herschensen at the beginning.
	He was unbelievable teaching me about loyalty.
	That's such an important quality.
	Where are you guys?
	Let me know what you think.
	1-8-Prager-776.
	I'm Mark Eisler, filling in for Dennis Prager.
	The Dennis Prager Show.
	Live from the Relief Factor Pain-Free Studio.
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	Music Is that 2020 will really go down as the year that the most powerful people on the planet, the people that have the most money, the most influence, the most access to capital, that control the most powerful companies, they tried to make America in their image, and they largely succeeded.
	This is a hard thing for us to admit.
	It's a hard thing for us to admit that the masters of the universe, the masters of Menlo Park, if you go back in January, all the way fast forward to today, just in 2020, they pulled off a decade of transformation in 11 months.
	Think about where we were back in January.
	Critical Race Theory, BLM Incorporated.
	We're considered radical movements and radical pieces of thought.
	Not at Google, though.
	At Google and at YouTube and at the Masters of Menlo Park, they considered critical race theory to be a religious text.
	They considered Herbert Macuza and Angela Davis to be what I would view Isaiah and Elijah prophets of what is to come, of some form of Hegelian.
	The country was not as digitized.
	Donald Trump was experiencing one of the greatest economies in American history, if not the greatest economy in American history.
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	Last week on Sunday, you had a Republican judge in Michigan say to the Giuliani team that a third-party audit could go forward in Anarim County.
	Why is that important?
	Anarum County is where the 6,000 votes went from.
	The Trump column to the Biden column.
	It was nearly a full 33% of the county that got switched in that.
	And we discovered it through a hand signature audit of the county that the Republican Party...
	Is Antrim, Michigan?
	Yes.
	And it was the first place, Eric, where we first heard the word...
	Dominion voting.
	It was in that county, it was in that flip, it was in that switch.
	At the time, the Secretary of State in that state said that it was a clerical error, that a clerk made the mistake, and then they shut off all discussion of it.
	Well, a judge said, it's okay, you guys can go in and do a forensic examination of 22 voting machines there in Anrum.
	That was concluded last Sunday, a week ago.
	We were told we would get results last Tuesday.
	As of Friday, we were still awaiting those results and the Attorney General in the state of Michigan had intervened, gone to the court and said, please side with us that they may not disclose the results of those audits.
	Now, why is that important?
	Well, the lead attorney for the independent audit team says that they saw conclusive proof that it wasn't a clerical error, that there was a computer connected to the tabulation system, and that it was actually provable through the forensic audit that a computer switched the votes.
	And it was only through the hand recount, comparing signatures, they went to a full signature recount, that they were able to establish what had really been the will of the voters in that county.
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	Trending now on America First with Sebastian Berger.
	Let's look at the last four years.
	Let's look at the last 40 years and ask the question that a former communist revolutionary...
	Now you got me in the Christmas spirit.
	Oh, by the way, Sean, are you getting me anything for Christmas?
	I celebrate both.
	He said, oh, how lovely.
	I don't think I'm getting anything from Sean.
	But I want to hear something from you guys out there, and the board is filled.
	Now, one line just opened up, so you can still get in.
	I'm having a little trouble still with the mouse.
	It works.
	That could be, oh yeah, I'm on the wrong screen.
	Thank you, Sean.
	That's why you're here.
	He gave me two screens, and this mouse works better on the other one.
	All right, let's go to Ron in Countryside, Illinois.
	Ron, you're on with Mark.
	Hello, Mark.
	I would just like to say that Karl Larks had originally said that religion was the opioid of the people.
	Of the masses.
	I think he said of the masses.
	I don't know how I remember that, but the opiate of the masses, I think.
	Go ahead.
	But I would think it should be amended to the media opioid of the people.
	Yeah.
	That's good.
	I like that because I never thought it could be so powerful that it could change minds the way it does.
	And if that's all you watch, there's a large percentage of people who said they didn't know anything about the Biden thing, the corruption in the family, and they would have voted for Trump if they knew that.
	I mean...
	How do you know that an opiate relaxes you?
	It takes a while to guess.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Let's go to Michael in Prescott, Arizona.
	Michael, you're on with Mark.
	Hi.
	I agree with everything you said, and I've always liked you when you fill in.
	I don't like the part, though, where you said that if we could stop Hitler, we would cheat and all that.
	This was all planned.
	It was like a coup.
	It was like a mafia thing or a military operation where they went a year before and changed all the laws so that they could cheat.
	This was all planned.
	These weren't patriots that were trying to sub Hitler.
	These were horrible people.
	Now, if we lose in Florida, which would...
	In Georgia.
	Pardon?
	If they're all at 49%, all four of them, it looks like it's a toss-up.
	And with the cheating factor, since the governor and the rest of them there won't change the system, the cheating will happen, and if they win in there, then you say we should resist.
	I agree with you.
	How can we?
	We won't have any instrumentality of government.
	You know, they'll control the Senate and do all those horrible things that we're talking about.
	I'm 76, my wife's 75. The country's going to be in turmoil for years to come if half of us hate You know, Biden, and I do.
	You know, I don't understand what practical...
	And you and I are on the same side.
	I mean, I'm almost like your philosophical twin on this, but I don't see what happiness my wife and I will have in terms of the future of our country.
	I mean, it's really horrible.
	This is the worst that we've been in since the Civil War.
	I agree.
	There will be bloodshed.
	There will be blowing up, you know, putting bombs under...
	Michael?
	No.
	People want to accept being...
	And we're mocked and ridiculed, too, about where is the evidence that 93% of Democrats think it's a fair election.
	I think most of those don't know what the facts are, but...
	Nah, it's worse than that, Michael.
	Thanks for the call.
	They don't care!
	They don't care he's a Nazi and a fascist.
	They won't admit it, but you have to see what people...
	Sometimes on Facebook, I can't believe the anger towards me when I post something, you know, it's a theft and election, you know, how awful I am and I can't see what's going on.
	But they don't care deep down.
	They want to win at any cost.
	That's what we never understood as Republicans.
	And when McConnell does something like, congratulations, President-elect Biden, you're just falling right in for...
	You're back to the old Republicans in the swamp.
	God, is it discouraging.
	Let's go to Robert, who sounds discouraged, in North Cross, Georgia.
	Robert, you're on with Mark.
	Thank you, Mark.
	It's my belief that if Georgia wins both Republicans for the Senate, it really won't make much of a difference because there's enough moderate Republicans that could easily choose to vote Democrats.
	It is.
	I agree with you.
	I've thought about it, too.
	Do I trust Mitt Romney?
	No.
	In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a Democrat at some point.
	And the only problem with that is he's in Utah.
	And that probably wouldn't go over well.
	Otherwise, he would probably switch.
	I'm like you.
	I'm really worried.
	But the difference is the turtle, as some other hosts call him, will still be the leader of the Senate, and they can decide which bills to bring up and stuff like that.
	The judges, right?
	We thought the judges were very good, maybe.
	We blew that also.
	Unless the modern Republicans vote Democratic, and then they can pass the bills or put in the judges, I don't think...
	Thanks for your call.
	I don't think...
	I could be wrong.
	I don't think Mitt Romney would vote to pack the court, but I can't be sure.
	And there are others like Murkowski, right?
	I don't think Susan Collins would do that.
	You're right.
	Even in the numbers we have, we can't be sure.
	But we can be sure if it's 50-50 in the Senate, they can do what they want.
	Then we have to hope that Manchin keeps his word.
	He said he wouldn't go for packing the court.
	Doesn't mean he wouldn't go for two more states.
	Becoming admitted to the United States, and therefore, you know, Puerto Rico and Washington, those are clear Democrat votes.
	And Christian in Malibu, California, you're on with Mark.
	Hi, Christian.
	Good morning.
	Good morning.
	I was calling about the press comments they had when the Republicans said they were going to go after the voting fraud election.
	Yes.
	And they had this woman named Sidney Powell who was very articulate and cited specific circumstances of how this was being done.
	And then about two weeks later, the administration kind of put her to the side, and now you don't hear anything about her, and then I don't know where we are with this.
	I'll make you feel better.
	We don't have much time.
	She is filing her lawsuits.
	They haven't covered it as well.
	But she is.
	She's continuing and taking him to the Supreme Court where she can.
	She's not a person who would ever give up.
	She was Michael Flynn's attorney.
	She was fantastic.
	So I wouldn't throw her under the table yet.
	The problem is the courts don't want to deal with it.
	If it's not fixed, Democrat judges, they don't want to deal with it.
	Nobody's got courage.
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	I'm Mark Eisler for Dennis Prager.
	Trending now on the Mike Deliger Show.
	Listen to what Joe Biden said about the actions like the one we saw last night in Minneapolis to literally defund the police.
	But I also don't think we should get too far ahead of ourselves on dealing with police reform in that because they've already labeled us as being defund the police.
	Anything we put forward in terms of the organizational structure to change policing, which I promise you will occur.
	Promise you.
	Just think to yourself and give me advice whether we should do that before January 5th, because that's how they beat the living hell out of us across the country, saying that we're talking about defunding the police.
	We're not.
	We're talking about holding them accountable.
	Nothing screams holding them accountable better than stripping $8 million from the police department in Minneapolis, which of course will result in...
	Here's how this works.
	If you don't have funds for the police, if you funnel them into, I guess, mental health counselors, and good luck handling a raging, violent criminal, good luck with that if you're a mental health counselor.
	Maybe you can sit there and start singing.
	Folk music to somebody who's, you know, waving a machete around.
	Maybe you could go back and ask them if they wet the bed when they were a child as they're, you know, on a rampage.
	Oh, we're not.
	But this is a very important clip from Biden.
	You've got to know exactly his intention.
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	Trending now on The Hugh Hewitt Show.
	Is there anybody in the business of film criticism who you admire for their craft?
	A guy like Joe Morgenstern with Wall Street Journal.
	He has liked...
	Some of my work, he has liked some of my movies, he has not liked some, and not liked me in some.
	But when he doesn't like it, he's constructive about it.
	Meaning, I'll read bad criticisms, and I can tell in the first line that, oh, this person had it in for me before they even saw the movie.
	They had already started this bad review before they saw the movie.
	So, you know what, that's not really a criticism.
	That's that person's hang-up.
	But when I can read somebody that has a good criticism, and Joe does, I think, a constructive criticism.
	And here's why I didn't like the movie.
	Here's why Matthew's performance didn't translate for me.
	I always learn something from it.
	And is it something that you do?
	Will you study reviews from serious people after a film comes out in order to improve your craft?
	Because they're good at theirs?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	I have done this.
	Look, obviously it's more fun to read a good review.
	And obviously, when you do your work, and I feel like I did it well and I read a good review, I think...
	Mark, I started filling in for Dennis I started filling in for Dennis Prager.
	I was just looking at the board.
	By the way, Sean, you make a mistake.
	You put up two monitors for me, which is why I got into trouble not knowing which mouse went with which monitor.
	You'd never give me choices.
	Now I feel comfortable this mouse actually works with this monitor.
	You ought to see me try to teach my students on Zoom.
	I mean, I've gotten better.
	I can do breakout rooms now, but one time I did a breakout room and it cut me out.
	It made someone else the host.
	All right, I haven't figured that one out yet.
	I want to be fair to the guy who disagrees with me, so Steve, if you can hang on, Republicans are crybabies, to the next hour, I promise to get to you sometime during that hour.
	But I want to give you enough time.
	There isn't that much time left.
	There are so many people.
	Let's go to Sarah in northeast Pennsylvania.
	Sarah, you're on with Mark.
	Hi, you asked people to call and express their opinion as to whether Donald Trump should concede?
	Uh-huh.
	Well, I don't think he should concede because the Democrats didn't win.
	Stealing is not winning.
	That's right.
	I actually did that rhetorically.
	If you heard me at all or know me at all, that's the last thing.
	I never give up.
	I don't want him ever to concede.
	I don't think he should ever concede because that's accessory to a crime.
	Why should he concede to this stolen election?
	You've got to be kidding.
	But, you know, he's got so many people on the other side urging him, you're a crybaby, and you're like one of the callers, I think I already lost him, saying that Republicans are all crybabies.
	You didn't win!
	That's why I use the analogy...
	It's the Democrats that show a lot of emotion.
	Well, of course, always.
	But, I mean, that's why I thought of that.
	You know, someone robs your house, or takes over your house.
	Squatters are doing that in some cases in California.
	They take over your house, and what do you do?
	You hand them the keys?
	You've got to be kidding.
	I'm not like that.
	He should never concede.
	We're lucky to have him.
	That's what they want him to do.
	It was rhetorical, Sarah.
	I don't think he should ever concede.
	Even up to inauguration day.
	Not that it matters.
	It's only in the basement anyway.
	I agree, because those who are agreeing with it and going along with it are complicit with a crime.
	Yep.
	I agree.
	Total.
	Thanks, Sarah.
	I appreciate your call.
	This has been a crime!
	And for those who say there's no evidence, they're crazy.
	Or that's the spin.
	They want you to believe that.
	The evidence is overwhelming.
	The last time I saw it for dentists, I did that.
	There were 23 things people asked me out of the article of the stream, the publication of the stream.
	And one thing after another, after another, after another.
	It's so obvious what went on.
	You have to be blind or you don't want to see.
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	The Richer Richer.
	Google and Facebook are more powerful than ever before.
	Normal people have had their voice suppressed.
	Anywhere between 250 to 275 to 300,000 people have died from the Chinese coronavirus.
	The lockdowns have killed dreams, ambitions, and human beings through suicide and other means.
	How did all of this happen?
	Aristotle famously said that we are the speaking beings.
	If we do not have the ability to speak and communicate, we are no different than the animals of the wild.
	Aristotle was a scientist.
	Some would call him an empiricist.
	It's not a perfect categorization, but he cared about what was happening in the natural world, where Plato cared about what was happening in the clouds, the space of ideas.
	Aristotle cared a lot about what was actually provable and based in reason.
	That's why he is called just the philosopher in a lot of traditions.
	So when you're not able to speak, when you're not able to spread ideas, don't be surprised when your entire civilization starts to unravel.
	So when you're not able to say, hey, I think hydroxychloroquine might actually work, then all of a sudden your YouTube account gets shut down, your Twitter account gets shut down, your Facebook page gets shut down.
	You get fired like Dr. Simone Gold.
	These Soviet-style tactics that are used suppress speech.
	So what ended up happening?
	There was a massive PR push done by some great doctors, Dr. Erickson, Dr. Simone Gold, amongst many others, to try to just start a conversation on how hydroxychloroquine could be helpful.
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	Trending now on America First with Sebastian Berka.
	I'm sorry.
	And a man who had been a Democrat, really, in every meaningful metric that term provides, became a Republican president the likes of which not even I expected.
	Nobody, nobody expect, nobody, there is, you cannot find for me right now, A piece of writing and interview from 2016 in which anyone stated, this will be a president more conservative than Ronald Reagan.
	Nobody said that.
	But it's true.
	Oh, how true.
	Pick any issue.
	Whether it's national security.
	Staring down China.
	Giving a green light to the Pentagon to target and kill more than 200 Russian mercenaries on the soil of Syria trying to destabilize the Middle East.
	Building the wall 400 miles of it already.
	Or keeping our promise to bring our troops back from endless stupid wars.
	A man who was even more pro-life than the great Ronald Reagan.
	The first president ever to address the March for Life.
	To talk at the March for Life of the sanctity of the unborn child.
	A man who even in the most technical, philosophical avenues of conservatism This
	morning, you know, Ben Dominich of The Federalist was on Fox& Friends saying, it's over.
	And then I talk to you and I talk to other people and I hear them say, no, it's in fact not over.
	Is this just wishful thinking on our parts?
	Are we grasping at straws in these several scenarios?
	I think it's reasonable for us to prepare ourselves for the possibility of a Joe Biden administration.
	But I am not willing to concede that that needs to happen until we have chased down.
	Every last bit of transparent truth that can be found here.
	And so I think we need to kind of walk with the wisdom that it may not go the way we want it to go.
	But I think we need to fight for transparency, truth, and integrity in the process.
	And I don't think that most Americans have a problem with that conflict inside their hearts.
	That first and foremost, we get to the bottom of this.
	And let's say everything goes worst case scenario.
	And just remember this about Ben.
	Good old Ben.
	Love the Federalist, great website.
	He's married to Meghan McCain, who just by nature of who she is, has a certain predisposition about Trump that probably permeates their marriage on some level.
	At the same time, it is...
	it is vital that even if Joe Biden were to end up being sworn in on January 20th, that the work that Sidney Powell is doing, that the work that the Justice Department and the Director of National Intelligence is doing, that a special counsel that may or may not be assigned to look into this, we have to chase this down to the nth degree until we know we have to chase this down to the nth degree until we know every last Keep up with what's trending.
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	Trending now on the Hugh Hewitt Show.
	I'm so tired of grievance, Matthew.
	You're just not mad at anybody except one moment with your mom.
	Were you aware of that when you were writing this?
	You know, I mean, I've got my grievances, but I've learned to move on if I can't be constructive with them.
	I've learned to move on.
	I mean, even the deal with my mom, we had a grievance for eight years.
	But I knew that we were going to mend our fences and come back together.
	I just didn't know when, and it took eight years.
	Did you not get a role that you really wished you'd gotten, I mean, that you still think about to this day?
	No, Hugh, I've got to be honest.
	I'm pretty fortunate in everything that I passed on.
	I have no regret on anything I passed on.
	There was a movie that I did love, that I was offered, that I said no to, but I loved the movie, and that was L.A. Confidential.
	Curtis Hanson directed it.
	It's a great movie.
	And that came to me...
	No, it's another name.
	I had them on.
	I had someone on KBC years ago.
	There was a backup band.
	I can't...
	My memory.
	It's Mark Eisler filling in for Dennis Prager again, finishing my 12th year filling in for Dennis.
	It's always a privilege and an honor.
	And you probably know you can reach me at MarkEisler at AOL.com.
	Love your comments.
	I think I should call this the monologue about courage, especially after what happened last hour listening to some of you.
	That's the one quality that is short supply in human nature.
	It's too bad that the Republicans in office, in Congress, and the state legislatures don't have courage.
	As it is now, I turn off any media that even calls Biden the president-elect.
	The media may lie and distort, but they do not get to decide who the president of the United States is.
	They may connive and act like an arm of the Democrat Party.
	Go for it.
	But they have no legal authority to anoint Joe Biden as president, which is one of the reasons I no longer watch Fox News with few exceptions.
	By the way, that's opened up my life.
	It's amazing.
	Sean, I mean, I can do other things.
	I listen on the radio.
	Of course, I listen to Dennis, and I listen to some others that are very good.
	But I don't watch TV anymore.
	I mean, there's becoming less and less use for it.
	And since I watch so few sports, I'm thinking, if I could get rid of the TV and still keep internet coverage, especially I can't stand spectrum, I'd get rid of it.
	I know I can, but it takes effort.
	And look, you'll help, you better, because I'm looking at both monitors instead of one.
	Okay, good.
	That's good to hear.
	I've lost all respect for them and anyone else who acquiesces in this theft.
	Especially the cowardly Republicans in the Senate and House and even the state legislatures who didn't support our president.
	Why aren't they calling this theft out from every hilltop and every hamlet to use the phrase of that great American figure calling out to let freedom ring?
	If we can't trust that we have fair elections, we will just be another banana republic.
	If this theft is allowed to proceed, I've lost faith in our sacred institutions.
	For years, when I started speaking 20, 30 years ago, I talked about our sacred institutions, worried about the family disappearing.
	But I thought I could trust the other institutions, the presidency, the legislature, and yes, the courts.
	I already was surprised the last few years to lose faith in the FBI and the Justice Department, and long before that, the CIA. I knew Christopher Wray was hopeless, and I called for his dismissal as head of the FBI. President Trump, for as much as I adore him, some of his choices, he should have asked Sean and me.
	He should have picked for some of these positions.
	But I did have more faith in Attorney General Barr.
	What happened to him?
	Not enough evidence, he says?
	Is he kidding?
	Does he refuse to see the obvious?
	It's good that he's leaving.
	I didn't think I would say that.
	Maybe he was in the swamp too long, too.
	He was there before, remember, as Attorney General.
	And the courts, especially the Supreme Court, with three Trump appointees declining to do their job, was more than disappointing.
	The Constitution is clear that only the state legislatures make election law.
	Yet the Supreme Court refused to hear the clear-cut case in Pennsylvania.
	With the rigged state court and election officials, they made the law.
	They can't do that.
	They allow for ballots being accepted days later and not even signature matching, whatever it was.
	Nor the case where they had original jurisdiction with Texas and other states filing against the wayward states that cheated and diminished their votes.
	Instead, the Supreme Court declined to hear these cases, allowing the thievery to proceed because of their fears, as I said last hour, likely of what they might have to rule and the after effects.
	That's what they're really afraid of.
	Their decision to ignore the Constitution, it's going to go down in history.
	But perhaps more despicable are people supposedly on our side.
	Who can you trust when you can't trust your friends?
	It's probably one of the most disappointing things in life when your friends let you down.
	I get the left.
	They are just evil.
	In some ways, I have more respect for them.
	They always fight for their beliefs.
	But I have even more disdain for those people supposedly on our side.
	Right?
	I mentioned Mitch McConnell the last hour congratulating President-elect Biden and Vice President-elect Harris.
	Congratulating, by the way, I didn't mention this, Biden on his public service.
	Public service?
	You mean taking bribes from Communist China or his son taking bribes from Ukraine and ultimately passing it on to Biden?
	That public service?
	Where he obtained several mansions on a politician's salary?
	And having done exactly what?
	In almost 50 some odd years.
	Oh, Mitch McConnell, you mean that public service?
	Or is it for the Wheeler dealer that you thrive on, Mitch McConnell?
	Calling on Senate Republicans, did you see this?
	Not to object to the electoral count.
	And congratulating Kamala Harris for being the first woman.
	Who cares if it's a woman or both president and vice presidents are women?
	I just want the best.
	Are you part of the swamp too?
	Where is your loyalty to our president?
	Maybe President Trump should urge Republicans not to vote in Georgia, if only to get rid of you.
	How would you like to lose your power?
	Of course, I'm being facetious.
	I can't urge that for my country's sake.
	And the same is true for the Supreme Court.
	What do you think about this, Sean?
	How about we let the Democrats pack the court, not just with, say, four extra judges.
	How about 100 extra judges?
	I would love for their cowardice to result in the court being packed.
	Maybe with a hundred new members and then your black robes wouldn't be so powerful and you couldn't hide behind them.
	But I can't urge that for my country.
	But maybe none of them would care because they like the Washington culture too much.
	Maybe that's it.
	That is certainly true of John Roberts.
	I gave up on him a long time ago when he came out with that ridiculous conclusion under Obamacare.
	But the three new Trump appointees?
	How did they get so intimidated?
	Because like Mitch McConnell, Chris Christie, Mitt Romney, and Ben Sasse, that's the name I forgot last hour from Nebraska, and more to come, they have no courage.
	I have never had anything but disdain for the never-Trumpers like Bill Kristol and Max Boot and fake Republican groups.
	I shouldn't even give them publicity like the Liberty Project.
	That was all a front.
	Their leader, by the way, Sean, became an independent, one of their founders of this Liberty Project nonsense, and now he just became a Democrat, announced on a show a day at Duga.
	He's switching the Democrat Party.
	I knew what they were up to.
	Trump gave these people everything a true conservative could have asked for.
	But they still turned on him because of their personal grievances with him.
	They cared less about America than they did about their own egos.
	Mr. Romney, the 2012 Republican nominee who I was a delegate for, said that the president had exhausted his legal challenges in several battleground states and resorted to trying to define the will of the voters.
	I love it!
	You mean the will of the fake voters?
	His rebuke of Mr. Trump came on the same day that the President invited Republican leaders to Michigan.
	That was a week or two ago, whatever it was.
	And he says, quote, having failed to make even a plausible cause case of widespread fraud or conspiracy before any court of law, Mr. Romney, they didn't allow the lawyers to make a case.
	They rejected on procedural grounds, or they would Democrat-appointed judges.
	They could care less.
	The president, I go on, has now resorted to overt pressure on state and local officials to subvert the will of the people and overturn the election.
	It is difficult to imagine a worse, more undemocratic action by a sitting American president.
	By the way, Mitt Romney, those legislative leaders said that never happened and not make a plausible case.
	You've got to be kidding.
	And he goes on, what's going on now, I'm afraid, is terribly dispiriting to the people all around the globe.
	Mitt Romney, I don't care what the people think all around the globe.
	I don't even know if you're right.
	Ben Sasse said that the efforts of the Trump campaign and Rudy Giuliani to attack the integrity of the election had caused damage.
	Quote, while press conferences erode public trust, Mr. Sasse said, so no, obviously, Rudy and his buddies should not pressure electors to ignore their certification obligation under the statute.
	We're a nation of laws, not tweets.
	Laws?
	You mean laws that they go around?
	Laws that they break?
	Which laws did you mean were violated?
	A rogue public trust, Mr. Sasse.
	What about the 74 million voters who were disenfranchised?
	Governor Larry Hogan, Republican American, oh my God.
	On Monday on CNN he said, Republicans who continue to dispute the results of last month's presidential election are embarrassing the party.
	What party do you mean, Mr. Hogan?
	The party without courage?
	The party without...
	Principles?
	No one could embarrass the party more than turn crotes like you.
	I could go on with his stuff.
	They went on and on.
	I don't even want to quote him.
	This theft is an affront to this country and the world for that matter.
	So I want you to tell me what you think.
	Will any of you ever vote for these traitors again?
	They've got to hear this from you.
	That's why the caller last hour said, We've got to call Rand Paul to compliment him, urge him on, people like that, and we've got to let the others know we will never vote for any of you for president.
	Whether President Trump wins this and doesn't win it and runs again, you guys are finished.
	We're not going to forget this.
	Who was it?
	Josh Hawley, Senator Hawley, at the hearing yesterday said, we're not stupid or something like that.
	We're going to remember this.
	Sean, how much time do I have left?
	Not much time.
	So let me know what you think.
	1-8-Prager-776.
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	This morning, you know, Ben Dominich of The Federalist was on Fox and Friends saying it's over.
	And then I talked to you and I talked to other people and I hear them say, no, it's in fact not over.
	Is this just wishful thinking on our parts?
	Are we grasping at straws in these several scenarios?
	I think it's reasonable for us to prepare ourselves.
	For the possibility of a Joe Biden administration.
	But I am not willing to concede that that needs to happen until we have chased down every last bit of transparent truth that can be found here.
	And so I think we need to kind of walk With the wisdom that it may not go the way we want it to go.
	But I think we need to fight for transparency, truth, and integrity in the process.
	And I don't think that most Americans have a problem with that conflict inside their hearts.
	That first and foremost, we get to the bottom of this.
	And let's say everything goes worst case scenario.
	And just remember this about Ben.
	Good old Ben.
	Love the Federalist.
	Great website.
	He's married to Meghan McCain, who just...
	By nature of who she is, has a certain predisposition about Trump that probably permeates their marriage on some level.
	At the same time, it is vital that even if Joe Biden were to end up being sworn in on January 20th, that the work that Sidney Powell is doing, that the work that the Justice Department and the Director of National Intelligence is doing, that the special counsel that may or may not be assigned to look into this, we have to chase this down to the nth degree until we know every last bit of it keep up with what's trending
	subscribe on youtube today trending now on the hugh hewitt show i'm so tired of grievance matthew you You're just not mad at anybody except one moment with your mom.
	Were you aware of that when you were writing this?
	You know, I mean, I've got my grievances, but I've learned to move on.
	If I can't be constructive with them, I've learned to move on.
	I mean, even the deal with my mom, we had a grievance for eight years.
	But I knew that we were going to mend our fences and come back together.
	I just didn't know when, and it took eight years.
	Did you not get a role that you really wished you'd gotten, I mean, that you still think about to this day?
	No, Hugh, I've got to be honest.
	I'm pretty fortunate in everything that I passed on.
	I have no regret on anything I passed on.
	There was a movie that I did love that I was offered that I said no to, but I loved the movie, and that was L.A. Confidential.
	Curtis Hanson directed it.
	It was a great movie, and that came to me right after I got famous of The Time to Kill.
	And so I write about it in the book that after that weekend of Time to Kill opened, all of a sudden I was being offered everything.
	Whereas two days before Time to Kill opened, I wasn't getting offered much of anything.
	And so in the affluence of scripts that were coming my way, I remember reading that and thinking it's really good, but I just don't have to do it.
	But then I saw the movie and I was like, ooh, that was a really good one.
	Well, I'd be amazed if someone in your position doesn't have at least one that you wish you could get back.
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	What do you make of a city like Minneapolis, Minnesota that slashed the police budget by millions of dollars last night?
	It was a unanimous vote.
	These kooks originally voted to abolish the police department altogether.
	I'm going to give you some numbers.
	Because this is very real here in Georgia, too.
	How pro-police do you...
	Mark, I start filling in for Dennis Prager.
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	And I promised I'd get back to your calls.
	So many good ones.
	Yeah, let's go to Julius.
	Julius in San Diego, you're on with Mark.
	Hi, Julius.
	Yeah, hi, Mark.
	How are you doing today?
	Well, thank you.
	Hey, listen, you know, a while back I was thinking about this word courage and just what it really means.
	We kind of throw it around like a tennis ball, you know, but Donald Trump has shown more courage than I've ever seen in my lifetime for a public figure.
	I mean, he has taken on every Tom, Dick, and Harry you can think of who's powerful and point-blank.
	Pointed them out as to what they are.
	And that takes a lot of courage.
	I don't care who you are.
	You can call it stupid, but I don't see any stupidity in it at all.
	And I've learned a lot about my government, and I've learned a lot about the media with Donald Trump's presidency.
	It's all been revealed now.
	And we've got to show some courage to keep it.
	I mean...
	Courage, I don't know if you're familiar with the New Testament scripture, but Jesus, when the apostles were in a boat on the lake, and Jesus told Peter, Peter, come on and walk across the water.
	And Peter started walking across the water, and he looked down, and Jesus said, Peter, take courage.
	Take courage.
	And that's what it takes.
	It takes that amount of courage to accomplish things.
	And I've always thought that the more courage you can develop, the more successful you will be.
	Thanks, Julius.
	I didn't mean to cut you off, but just because we have so many callers, I don't even think it's that hard.
	In this case, that much courage to say we want to give these people a hearing and we'll vote for the slates that make the most sense.
	Why are you there?
	Why are you there if you don't want to accomplish something?
	How do you sleep at night?
	Let's go to maybe, I don't know if this is a challenge, but I was looking at it.
	Joy in Spokane, Washington.
	You're on with Mark.
	Hi, this is Joy, and I'm a lifelong Democrat, so I was never a supporter of Trump.
	But, you know, I live in a conservative part of Washington State, and I have relatives.
	Who are Republicans, who are conservatives, and they're just tired of Trump.
	There are moral objections of how he treats people, of what his tweets say, and consequences of some of his policies.
	But if you look at what happened with the election, Republicans did come out ahead in many areas.
	So I just don't see why there cannot be a recognition of Trump supporters.
	That Trump just exhausted people, and there were many parts of Trump, not the Republican or conservative platforms, but of Trump that people were just tired of, and they were not proud of him as president.
	Yeah, well, that's not me, but I think it's a very fair challenge you made, because I think he did a great job.
	I'd say to your friends, Tell me where he didn't do a great job as president.
	Next to Reagan, I don't know.
	It's hard to rate who did more for this country as a conservative.
	Not you.
	You're a Democrat.
	So the personal thing is part of the package.
	I didn't even support him at the very beginning in the primary because of some of those things.
	I never expected him to be so conservative.
	So terrific for this country.
	So that's what I would say to them.
	And as far as you saying, well...
	People dislike Trump so much.
	You mean, so they voted, say, in black areas more for him than Barack Obama.
	And the only areas that Biden beat Trump were in areas that he also beat Hillary and Obama.
	But in the rest of the country, Hillary and Obama beat him!
	That's one of many things that I would challenge you and your friends with.
	There are so many anomalies, it's ridiculous.
	90,000 ballots coming back just with Biden's name.
	People, no postmarks.
	Ballots coming and being put in the machine time after time.
	People swearing to this.
	And Georgia told to go home that there was a huge water leak when it was a urinal that didn't flush.
	I mean, I could go, you may not have heard me a few weeks ago, but I went over 23 of these things.
	That any reasonable person would look at it.
	I get it if you're a hardcore Democrat.
	You've had it with Trump.
	Okay, don't vote for him.
	But this election was stolen.
	Joy, if you knew this election was stolen, could you live with that?
	Well, I don't think that it was stolen.
	I knew that was the problem.
	No, no.
	If you look back, I can, from my perspective, look at a lot of times that I truly believe there was voter suppression.
	For blacks and minorities in other areas in our country.
	I know.
	I don't mean to be...
	It's going to sound sarcastic, but asking for an ID where you can't get anywhere, an airplane, a government office, that's voter suppression.
	But leave that aside.
	Voter suppression...
	The numbers were nothing like this.
	These were hundreds and hundreds of thousands of votes.
	I know, but...
	Wait, sure, and you're putting down a minority people.
	Would it stop you from voting because they asked for your ID? But look what I'm looking at is that if they did not do any of the lawsuits, if it didn't go to the Supreme Court, I can't get into the mind of the judges.
	But they didn't, Joy, they didn't reject it.
	We're gonna run out of time, that's why I'm rushing.
	They didn't reject it based on the facts.
	Joy, they didn't reject it on the facts.
	They said it had no standing.
	I think he's had the chance, I think he's had the chance to put all that before them.
	And I think he's followed the process.
	Well, I'll tell you what to say after the break.
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	Is that 2020 will really go down as the year that the most powerful people on the planet, the people that have the most money, the the people that have the most money, the most influence, the most access to capital, that control the most powerful companies, they tried to make America in their image.
	And they largely succeeded.
	This is a hard thing for us to admit.
	It's a hard thing for us to admit that the masters of the universe, the masters of Menlo Park, if you go back in January, all the way fast forward to today, just in 2020, they pulled off a decade of transformation in 11 months.
	Think about where we were back in January.
	Critical Race Theory, BLM Incorporated.
	We're considered radical movements and radical pieces of thought.
	Not at Google, though.
	At Google and at YouTube and at the Masters of Menlo Park, they considered critical race theory to be a religious text.
	They considered Herbert Macuza and Angela Davis to be what I would view Isaiah and Elijah prophets of what is to come, of some form of Hegelian.
	This is a dystopian nightmare.
	The country was not as digitized.
	Donald Trump was experiencing one of the greatest economies in American history, if not the greatest economy in American history.
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	Last week on Sunday, you had a Republican judge in Michigan say to the Giuliani team that a third-party audit could go forward in Anarim County.
	Why is that important?
	Anarum County is where the 6,000 votes went from.
	The Trump column to the Biden column.
	It was nearly a full 33% of the county that got switched in that.
	And we discovered it through a hand signature audit of the county that the Republican Party...
	Is Antrim, Michigan?
	Yes.
	And it was the first place, Eric, where we first heard the word...
	Dominion voting.
	It was in that county, it was in that flip, it was in that switch.
	At the time, the Secretary of State in that state said that it was a clerical error, that a clerk made the mistake, and then they shut off all discussion of it.
	Well, a judge said, it's okay, you guys can go in and do a forensic examination of 22 voting machines there in Anrum.
	That was concluded last Sunday, a week ago.
	We were told we would get results last Tuesday.
	As of Friday, we were still awaiting those results and the Attorney General in the state of Michigan had intervened, gone to the court and said, please side with us that they may not disclose the results of those audits.
	Now, why is that important?
	Well, the lead attorney for the independent audit team says that they saw conclusive proof that it wasn't a clerical error, that there was a computer connected to the tabulation system, and that it was actually provable through the forensic audit that a computer switched the votes.
	And it was only through the hand recount, comparing signatures, they went to full signature recount that they were able to establish what had really been the will of the voters in that county.
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	Let's look at the last four years.
	Let's look at the last 40 years.
	I hear this.
	It's not bad.
	It's okay, Mark.
	It's all right.
	Well, you know, I liked it.
	So my brothers moved and I was going through his house to find stuff.
	I found a couple of radios.
	So me, a talk show host, I could put a radio in the bathroom, a radio, you know.
	It's hard to find just radios anymore.
	You know what I mean?
	So here's a transistor radio.
	I never thought of that.
	It's not outdated.
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	Filled board, so I apologize if I don't get to you right away and And so many good calls.
	Yep, that's true, JB. Let's go to JB. How do you say that?
	Midlothian, Texas?
	Thank you, sir.
	Yes.
	Yeah, where is that?
	Yeah, my thoughts are is that to take care of the swamp, let's say, I don't think there was a better person that could have done it.
	I don't think anybody has the courage and the audacity that Trump has to take on that kind of power.
	Now, if we elected, let's just use a sports team, if you elect, let's say, football, and you've got the best quarterback in the whole league, and you still lose, then that tells you the quarterback isn't enough.
	And so I just think we're at a place now, I mean, when you look at the Supreme Court has...
	Not fulfilled what we think they should have done.
	A lot of the legislatures and senators, that they're not following what we think they should do.
	Then it looks to me like we really need to look at the convention of states idea of, and the states themselves, trying to get more power into the states and not relying on who we have.
	I don't think at this point, whoever wins in Georgia, I don't think it's going to change anything if we even hold it.
	I think we need something that's fundamentally more significant.
	Yeah, something that will make a difference.
	That's what you're afraid of.
	I can't say thanks for your call.
	I can't say I disagree with any of that, except I want us to win Georgia.
	I mean, despite Mitch McConnell, despite the Supreme Court turncoats who didn't have the courage, To even hear the case, I love when they say, oh, all the courts, 50, 60 challenges by the Trump team.
	No, that's not true.
	Most of them were not even by the Trump team.
	Even didn't get that right.
	Why don't you just be honest like that lady?
	She was very nice, the caller I had, who was a Democrat, and be truthful.
	And by the way, I wanted to say to her, I said I'd say some things afterwards.
	I love voter suppression.
	People have died.
	Remember the purple things they used to get, Sean and I were talking about in Iraq?
	The little marks.
	They voted with their lives at stake.
	What do you mean voter suppression?
	That's ridiculous.
	That's such a phony argument.
	But the fact is, the evidence is overwhelming if you're willing to look at it.
	But you make a good point.
	A lot of people out there are discouraged.
	But you should vote in Georgia.
	We should take those two Senate seats.
	We can get rid of McConnell a different way.
	Should we take dramatic action?
	I think the chairman of the Texas Republican Party...
	I used to be a congressman said that he was talking about secession or something.
	I'm not there yet, and other people have hinted at it, but something's got to be done.
	We can't allow the swamp to win, let alone our own people.
	Our own people, yeah, own people, with no courage, no guts.
	That's why I want to take this call.
	Here it is.
	Roger in Temecula, and I'll keep you over if I don't give you enough time.
	Go.
	No problem.
	Thanks, Mark.
	You're doing a great job.
	I agree with you a million percent.
	This election was stolen.
	There was provable fraud.
	My concern is between a combination of Republican leaders, senators, governors, who are all kind of starting to move into the camp of, you know, I think we just we have to acknowledge that we lost and it's time to move forward.
	And a media that is going to be completely compliant with a Democratic platform in any way, shape or form that we are really hitting a time where it's we're not going to be able to get this back on track.
	Hold on a second.
	I'm going to keep my word to you.
	I'm going to hold you over because we've got to go to the break.
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	This morning, you know, Ben Dominich of The Federalist was on Fox and Friends saying, it's over.
	And then I talked to you and I talked to other people and I hear them say, no, it's in fact not over.
	Is this just wishful thinking on our parts?
	Are we grasping at straws in these several scenarios?
	I think it's reasonable for us to prepare ourselves for the possibility of a Joe Biden administration.
	But I am not willing to concede that that needs to happen until we have chased down every last bit of transparent truth that can be found here.
	And so I think we need to kind of walk...
	With the wisdom that it may not go the way we want it to go.
	But I think we need to fight for transparency, truth, and integrity in the process.
	And I don't think that most Americans have a problem with that conflict inside their hearts.
	That first and foremost, we get to the bottom of this.
	And let's say everything goes worst case scenario.
	And just remember this about Ben.
	Good old Ben.
	Love the Federalist.
	Great website.
	He's married to Meghan McCain, who just...
	By nature of who she is, has a certain predisposition about Trump that probably permeates their marriage on some level.
	At the same time, it is vital that even if Joe Biden were to end up being sworn in on January 20th, that the work that Sidney Powell is doing, that the work that the Justice Department and the Director of National Intelligence is doing, that the special counsel that may or may not be assigned to look into this, We have to chase this down to the nth degree until we know every last bit of it. - Okay. - Keep up with what's trending.
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	Trending now on the Hugh Hewitt Show. - I'm so tired of grievance, Matthew.
	You're just not mad at anybody except one moment with your mom.
	Were you aware of that when you were writing this?
	You know, I mean, I've got my grievances, but I've learned to move on.
	If I can't be constructive with them, I've learned to move on.
	I mean, even the deal with my mom, we had a grievance for eight years.
	But I knew that we were going to mend our fences and come back together.
	I just didn't know when, and it took eight years.
	Did you not get a role that you really wished you'd gotten, I mean, that you still think about to this day?
	No, Hugh, I've got to be honest.
	I'm pretty fortunate in everything that I passed on.
	I have no regret on anything I passed on.
	There was a movie that I did love that I was offered that I said no to, but I loved the movie, and that was L.A. Confidential.
	Curtis Hanson directed it.
	It was a great movie, and that came to me right after I got famous as A Time to Kill.
	And so I write about it in the book that after that weekend of Time to Kill opened, all of a sudden I was being offered everything.
	Whereas two days before Time to Kill opened, I wasn't getting offered much of anything.
	And so in the affluence of scripts that were coming my way, I remember reading that and thinking it's really good, but I just don't have to do it.
	But then I saw the movie and I was like, ooh, that was a really good one.
	Well, I'd be amazed if someone in your position doesn't have at least one that you wish you could get back.
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	What do you make of a city like Minneapolis, Minnesota that slashed the police budget by millions of dollars last night?
	It was a unanimous vote.
	These kooks originally voted to abolish the police department altogether.
	I'm going to give you some numbers.
	Because this...
	Mark, as they're sitting in for Dennis Prager and full board, I'll get to you as fast as I can, but I want to give Roger a fair chance to sum up.
	Roger, you're back on with Mark.
	Yeah, thanks so much for holding me over.
	My biggest issue is the Republican leadership, senators and governors, who are kind of starting to move from, you know, we support Trump to it's time to move on, we lost.
	Combine that with the media who's going to be totally compliant and basically the mouthpiece of the Democratic Party, and I just don't see any way we really get this back on track.
	Well, you heard me say, and I'm not the first one to say it, we still have hope if the congressmen, we got that down, they'll be someone to object to the certification of the electors as presently exists, and we just have to hope we get a senator or two.
	I think we will.
	I think after what Rand Paul said and the Wisconsin senator said after the hearings that we're going to get a senator or two, and then it's all over.
	I don't mean all over, we're definitely going to win, but at least we continue.
	I said that wrong.
	We continue, and then they just have to have the courage in the House to support the President.
	I don't think that'll be a problem.
	The Senate is another issue, but they vote for the Vice President, not for the President.
	And maybe Pelosi will pull something and not have it.
	Therefore, we come to a standstill.
	This is the way I see it, and Mike Pence will make the decision.
	And I can live with that.
	He can say, the office is vacant.
	I want as much, I hate to say this, chaos as I can, Because I don't want this election to go down.
	We've got to make it clear to the end we're never going to accept this.
	They thought we were pushovers.
	Maybe the Congress is a pushover, but we're not.
	Not the 74 million voters.
	Roger, thanks for your kind comments, and don't give up, okay?
	It's not over yet.
	Thank you.
	And let's go to...
	Here, someone disagrees with me.
	I go for that right away.
	Warren in Naperville, Illinois.
	You're on with Mark.
	I wasn't sure.
	Is it Naperville or Naperville?
	Naperville.
	Naperville.
	Okay, I knew that.
	I'm just kidding.
	Go ahead, Warren.
	Let me have it.
	Okay, so my point is, you know, I'm coming from the opposite side.
	I'm a Democrat.
	You guys have to give it up.
	In 2000, we lost an election by 500 votes, where it was clear if the vote counting had continued.
	Our goal would have been president.
	What 500 votes?
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Let's dialogue.
	I'll give you a chance.
	Where did you just lose by 500 votes?
	I don't remember that.
	Say that again?
	You said you would have won.
	Bush won Florida by 500. Bush won Florida by 500. That's not last time.
	Yeah, you're talking about 2000, right.
	But that was one state.
	There wasn't corruption going on.
	They just counted.
	I could call that corruption.
	It was obvious.
	What should happen?
	By the way, you may not know this.
	I'm going to give you a chance.
	They recounted that.
	I forget the word.
	They went over that eight or nine times.
	Every count showed that Bush won.
	And Gore did not win, including by the newspaper, which wasn't friendly to George Bush.
	I remember that.
	So like nine times that was recounted.
	He never won.
	So there was no fraud there.
	Okay, I think you're informing your viewers.
	They counted twice.
	No, you're wrong.
	I know that for a fact.
	We're not going to agree.
	It was about eight or nine times counting different ways.
	I remember that.
	But go on.
	So we disagree.
	You think it was twice.
	I think it was eight or nine.
	Now, Gore won that election by the popular vote by half a million votes.
	Trump's down by 3 million votes.
	We don't do it by popular vote.
	We do it by the electoral college.
	The founders were geniuses.
	We do that because otherwise just California and New York and states like that would control everything because they have the biggest population.
	So the founders in their wisdom said we want to make sure that the small states have representation too.
	So the popular vote doesn't matter.
	It's the electoral college that matters.
	That's why the Democrats want to overturn it.
	I didn't mention the popular vote because I thought it was overriding.
	But I'm telling you, I'm just informing you of the magnitude of where the country is.
	It isn't!
	No, it's not!
	No, Warren!
	Warren, you don't get away with that.
	It's not where the country is.
	If you look a map of the country, it's almost all red.
	We're talking about California and New York, basically.
	Hillary beat Trump by, I think, 4 million votes in California.
	It's not where the country's at.
	You're wrong.
	Well, the populated parts of the country, if three, four people make a seat somewhere, that's fine.
	But I'm saying, in 2016, almost three million people in the United States voted more for Clinton.
	I just told you.
	Warren, let's dialogue.
	Warren, Warren, Warren, let's dialogue.
	You ignored what I said.
	She beat Trump, I think, by 4 million votes.
	There's your 3 million votes right there, if I'm right, in California.
	It wasn't anything you're indicating in the country.
	It was just California.
	We're crazy out here.
	Don't you see what we're doing?
	We're destroying this state.
	So you want to go by California?
	You got it.
	Okay.
	She's much more popular than was in California and New York.
	Go.
	But that's not true.
	If you switch 70,000 votes in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Michigan, Wisconsin, and one other state, the election becomes Hillary.
	Yeah, and if you switch, and if you switch, and if you switch, and if you switch Pennsylvania and Michigan now, it's Trump's.
	And you don't have to switch, because he won.
	Let me ask you a question.
	What you're proposing, if, say, the Supreme Court had voted to say, okay, there was this illegality, should the Supreme Court have disenfranchised the millions of people just to make sure Trump gets in the White House?
	No!
	No, they weren't disenfranchising.
	They were legal votes.
	You can't count the legal votes.
	We can go over what they were.
	But ballots, ballots, ballots.
	Oh, my.
	Well, I know you don't have to listen to me every time I'm on.
	I went over 23 reasons a few weeks ago when I was on Dennis' show.
	I could give you some of them now.
	How about ballots coming?
	How about more ballots coming back that were issued?
	How about ballots coming back?
	How about 90,000 ballots in Georgia with just Biden's name on it?
	How are they illegal?
	All those reasons you give have been debunked in court.
	You're making up stuff.
	The courts haven't heard any of the evidence.
	They've dismissed it on procedural grounds.
	You don't have standing.
	You're too late.
	I love that in Pennsylvania.
	Latches.
	You should have told us these harms before the election happened.
	As if we knew Do these harms before the election happened?
	Let me know what you think.
	I gotta be more enthusiastic.
	Let me know what you think.
	Mark has to fill in for Dennis Prager.
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	Is that 2020 will really go down as the year that the most powerful people on the planet, the people that have the most money, the the people that have the most money, the most influence, the most access to capital, that control the most powerful companies, they tried to make America in their image, and they largely succeeded.
	This is a hard thing for us to admit.
	It's a hard thing for us to admit that the masters of the universe, the masters of Menlo Park, if you go back in January, all the way fast forward to today, just in 2020, they pulled off a decade of transformation in 11 months.
	Think about where we were back in January.
	Critical Race Theory, BLM Incorporated.
	We're considered radical movements and radical pieces of thought.
	Not at Google, though.
	At Google and at YouTube and at the Masters of Menlo Park, they considered critical race theory to be a religious text.
	They considered Herbert Macuza and Angela Davis to be what I would view Isaiah and Elijah prophets of what is to come, of some form of Hegelian.
	The country was not as digitized.
	Donald Trump was experiencing one of the greatest economies in American history, if not the greatest economy in American history.
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	Last week on Sunday, you had a Republican judge in Michigan say to the Giuliani team that a third-party audit could go forward in Anarim County.
	Why is that important?
	Anarim County is where the 6,000 votes went from.
	The Trump column to the Biden column.
	It was nearly a full 33% of the county that got switched in that.
	And we discovered it through a hand signature audit of the county that the Republican Party...
	Is Antrim, Michigan?
	Yes.
	And it was the first place, Eric, where we first heard the word...
	Dominion voting.
	It was in that county, it was in that flip, it was in that switch.
	At the time, the Secretary of State in that state said that it was a clerical error, that a clerk made the mistake, and then they shut off all discussion of it.
	Well, a judge said, it's okay, you guys can go in and do a forensic examination of 22 voting machines there in Anrum.
	That was concluded last Sunday, a week ago.
	We were told we would get results last Tuesday.
	As of Friday, we were still awaiting those results, and the Attorney General in the state of Michigan had intervened, gone to the court, and said, please side with us that they may not disclose the results.
	It's good.
	Not bad.
	You're just giving me the mushy Christmas songs.
	Something like that.
	By the way, I enjoyed the last caller.
	I wish we had more time together, but it's radio.
	I didn't have to talk over him.
	He didn't have to talk over me.
	Because I think he might have...
	Might have cared about the truth.
	A lot of things he said just weren't accurate.
	Nothing's been debunked in terms of the evidence.
	Not really.
	I want to be honest, but as fair as I can.
	Was anything dismissed yet in terms of the evidence?
	I don't think so.
	I think they have thousands of affidavits, but they certainly have hundreds.
	Melody in Keno, Oregon, you're on with Mark.
	Hi there.
	I've had a couple questions.
	I've been reading, and I don't know if it's true or not.
	That Mike Pence is going to have ultimate power for about 24 hours while this vote goes to Congress.
	Is that true?
	I don't know if it's just 24 hours, but he's going to have power.
	He's going to, you know, I think I may not be correct in saying, I think he's like the parliamentarian.
	He decides this is accurate, this is not accurate, you can do this, you can't do that.
	I think he could yet pull this out first.
	But I didn't hear that he only had power for 24 hours.
	That may be true.
	I don't know.
	Okay, well that's what I was wondering.
	I just never know what to believe with the media.
	So I try to listen to the show and a few others like this so I get educated answers rather than just calling a news network stuff.
	You should feel good that he's going to have a lot of power.
	If I had to predict, I predict that he's going to make some decisions that will favor our side.
	And I look forward to that.
	If we get a senator or two to agree with a House member, I think we will.
	I sure hope so.
	I can't stand the way that the world is going right now.
	It's just so dishonest and non-transparent.
	I'm very uneducated in politics.
	I just know that as an American, what is going on right now is so unfair and so wrong.
	They spent four and a half years trying to get rid of Trump.
	not done a darn thing as far as passing anything or taking care of anything.
	And now they're complaining that he should just give up.
	And he never did that to begin with.
	Melody, they tried to get him even before he won.
	I mean, they're out to get this guy.
	they want to know part of him.
	They don't want a business man.
	They want the good old boys club politician in there.
	They don't want a businessman that's going to do something good for the country.
	They want something they can control.
	Yeah, they certainly didn't want an outsider cleaning up the swamp, and that includes Mitch McConnell.
	He seems happy to get along with Biden.
	Great, I'm glad you're so happy.
	I wish there was a way we could get rid of you, Mitch McConnell, and Romney, and Ben Sasse, and the rest of you, who show no loyalty and no courage.
	We're in this together, Mellie.
	Don't give up hope.
	Your question said, is there a chance Trump can still win?
	Yes, there is a chance.
	I didn't say it was overwhelming.
	Things have to go our way.
	But I sure hope it comes our way.
	I do, too.
	Thank you for clarifying everything.
	Thanks.
	I don't think I clarified everything.
	You only asked me one question.
	You asked a lot.
	Yeah.
	Sean wants me to mention Larry Elder, because you'll be on with him, right?
	You host, not host, but you kind of run his show, too.
	You run me.
	Let me know what you think.
	Hey, Prager776.
	Mark us are filling in for Dennis Prager.
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	Huge number of Democrats who believe that the Russians changed the outcome of the election in 2016, but they're just flabbergasted that Donald Trump is daring to suggest that this election might have been rigged or might be fraudulent. - Okay.
	No matter what the Russians may have done, I say to my friends who are listening to the program, the Democrats, no matter what the Russians have done or the Chinese have done or the Iranians have done, and clearly they've all tried to interfere with our elections, it pales in comparison to the interference.
	And I put that in quotes by the mainstream media that you guys gobble up.
	Hunter Biden.
	New York Post breaks his story days before the election.
	This is a bombshell.
	And it isn't because Hunter Biden did anything illegal necessarily.
	It's because Joe Biden has for months denied knowing anything whatsoever about his son's business, let alone that he met with any of his son's colleagues, business colleagues, business associates.
	And it turns out, Tony Bobulinski, the longtime business associate of Hunter, who broke with Hunter, goes public and says he met with Joe Biden for some time.
	And also worked with Joe Biden's brother.
	And when he said to Joe Biden's brother, look, isn't this kind of dicey for you to be involved in something like this?
	Joe Biden's brother said, we have plausible deniability.
	So the story broke.
	And what did the mainstream media say?
	They said, this is Russian disinformation.
	You have the CEO of Twitter suppressing the story, admitting he suppressed the story.
	And he admitted they shouldn't have done it.
	But the story was spiked.
	Keep up with what's trending.
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	The richer, richer.
	Google and Facebook are more powerful than ever before.
	Normal people have had their voice suppressed.
	Anywhere between 250 to 275 to 300,000 people have died from the Chinese coronavirus.
	The lockdowns have killed dreams, ambitions, and human beings through suicide and other means.
	How did all of this happen?
	Aristotle famously said that we are the speaking beings.
	If we do not have the ability to speak and communicate, we are no different than the animals of the wild.
	Aristotle was a scientist.
	Some would call him an empiricist.
	It's not a perfect categorization, but he cared about what was happening in the natural world, where Plato cared about what was happening in the clouds, the space of ideas.
	Aristotle cared a lot about what was actually provable.
	And based in reason.
	That's why he is called just the philosopher in a lot of traditions.
	So when you're not able to speak, when you're not able to spread ideas, don't be surprised when your entire civilization starts to unravel.
	So when you're not able to say, hey, I think hydroxychloroquine might actually work, and all of a sudden your YouTube account gets shut down, your Twitter account gets shut down, your Facebook page gets shut down.
	You get fired like Dr. Simone Gold.
	These Soviet-style tactics that are used suppress speech.
	So what ended up happening?
	There was a massive PR push done by some great doctors, Dr. Erickson, Dr. Simone Gold, amongst many others, to try to just start a conversation on how hydroxychloroquine could be helpful.
	Keep up with what's trending.
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	Trending now on America First with Sebastian Birka.
	And a man who had been a Democrat really in every meaningful metric that term provides.
	Became a Republican president the likes of which not even I expected.
	Nobody, nobody expected, nobody, there is, you cannot find for me right now a piece of writing, an interview from 2016 in which anyone stated this will be a president more conservative than Ronald Reagan.
	Nobody said that.
	But it's true.
	Oh, how true.
	Pick any issue.
	Whether it's national security, staring down China, giving a green light to the Pentagon to target and kill more than 200 Russian mercenaries on the soil of Syria trying to destabilize the Middle East, building the wall 400 miles of it already.
	Or keeping our promise to bring our troops back from endless stupid wars.
	A man who was even more pro-life than the great Ronald Reagan.
	The first president ever to address the March for Life.
	To talk at the March for Life of the sanctity of the unborn child.
	A man who even in the most technical, philosophical avenues of conservatism was without parallel.
	Keep up with what's trending.
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	Trending now on the Eric Metaxas Show.
	This morning, you know, Ben Dominich of The Federalist was on Fox and Friends saying, it's over.
	And then I talked to you and I talked to other people and I hear them say, no, it's in fact not over.
	Is this just wishful thinking on our parts?
	Are we grasping at straws in these several scenarios?
	I think it's reasonable for us to prepare ourselves.
	For the possibility of a Joe Biden administration.
	But I am not willing to concede that that needs to happen until we have chased down every last bit of transparent truth that can be found here.
	And so I think we need to kind of walk With the wisdom that it may not go the way we want it to go.
	But I think we need to fight for transparency, truth, and integrity in the process.
	And I don't think that most Americans have a problem with that conflict inside their hearts.
	That first and foremost, we get to the bottom of this.
	And let's say everything goes worst case scenario.
	And just remember this about Ben.
	Good old Ben.
	Love the Federalist.
	Great website.
	He's married to Meghan McCain, who just by nature...
	Now it's good.
	Picked up a little.
	So I'm supposed to like this because it's Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass.
	Geez, Sean, okay.
	I can't watch.
	watch.
	He's dancing in the control room.
	It's hard to take.
	I have a show to do.
	It's Mark Eisler filling in for Dennis Prager again, finishing my 12th year filling in for Dennis.
	No one else can say that.
	It's always an honor.
	And you probably know you can reach me at markisler at aol.com, M-A-R-K-I-S-L-E-R at aol.com, or on Facebook at Mark Eisler or Mark Eisler Show.
	In the previous hours, I talked about the theft of the election and the cowardice of many in our government institutions And one person who never lacked courage to do the right thing was former California senatorial candidate Bruce Hershenson.
	And I wanted to use this time to pay tribute to my dear friend Bruce Hershenson, who passed away several weeks ago.
	And so I'll get to your calls.
	Just be a little patient with me.
	Before I forget, I wanted to mention the last book Bruce did.
	You can now pre-order on Amazon.
	It's a profile of Hong Kong.
	I mean, it really distressed him to see what's going on in Hong Kong.
	But that's the title, Profile of Hong Kong During Times Past, Times Current, and Its Quest of a Future Maintaining Hong Kong's Liberty, Hardcover, April 6th, that comes out, 2021.
	But you can pre-order it on Amazon.
	I called Dennis on a show when Bruce passed, but that was only for a couple of minutes.
	This is what I posted on Facebook when I first heard of Bruce's passing.
	It was really sad to note that my dear friend Bruce Hershenson has passed.
	He taught me so much about what made America special.
	Every time he was on my radio show, I would learn something new from him.
	I was one of his chief substitute spokespersons during his run for the U.S. Senate.
	For those who don't remember, he ran against Barbara Boxer and barely lost.
	And afterwards, he appointed me as one of his delegates to the state Republican Party.
	He was brilliant, articulate, gracious, and kind.
	He was a moral man that could not be bought.
	You hear that?
	Republican cowards out there could not be bought or deterred in his principles or values.
	America missed so much by not having him as a U.S. Senator, and I miss him so much too.
	But I was lucky to know him and have him as a friend.
	Bruce was one of the most inspiring and thoughtful people I ever met.
	I first became friends with him, as I said, when he ran for the U.S. Senate against Boxer.
	You remember Boxer's most famous line to me, Sean?
	What shall go down in history for it?
	Well, you think there was nothing.
	There was.
	A general was before her in the hearings and he called her ma'am and she said, call me senator.
	I worked too hard for that title.
	That's where we're fighting.
	These people think it's about them.
	I can tie this all into what we've been discussing today.
	Bruce was neck and neck with Boxer up to the last weekend and gaining And because of another sometime rhino, George H. Bush, you may remember this, he abandoned California with no regard for Bruce's campaign.
	LACPR is...
	You know, do me a favor, Chris.
	Could you say Senator instead of ma'am?
	It's just a thing.
	I worked so hard to get that title, so I'd appreciate it.
	Yes, thank you.
	See, that's what we're working against.
	Sean, you're unbelievable how you came up with that so fast.
	But, so, Bush abandons California.
	All the money poured in against Bruce into Boxer's campaign, because Bush wasn't spending any more money on it.
	And at the last minute, a Democrat political operative playing dirty tricks, sound familiar?
	Revealed Bruce had entered an unsavory establishment with friends, hoping to hurt him with conservative supporters.
	If you knew Bruce, you would know he was innocent of any unsavory conduct or intent, but it didn't matter.
	They held that political dirty tricks until the last weekend so the real facts couldn't be disputed.
	See, we've been dealing with these guys forever.
	This is not new, the cheating and what they'll do.
	They'll do anything to win.
	Sounds like the values of the Democratic Party, willing to do anything and everything to win.
	But when I would ask Bruce later on my radio show if Bush's abandonment of the state or the last-minute smear caused him to lose that election, he would give no alibi.
	He merely said, Mark, she got more votes than I did.
	That's why I lost.
	What a classy man.
	I was there with him the night he lost, and I knew Dennis had visited him that night, too.
	When I was sure of the results, I watched him go out on the balcony of the hotel to be alone with his thoughts.
	As far as I remember from even the days he was a box boy at Ralph's, Ralph's grocery chain out here.
	It's Kroger's across the country.
	He wanted to be a senator.
	And it had to be hard on him to know he had lost that dream.
	But Bruce never lost his integrity.
	When the press would ask him about bailing out flood-damaged homeowners in other parts of the country, he said no.
	They knew what they were doing when they bought close to the water.
	So the press thought they had him.
	They'd follow up by saying, oh yeah, would you bail out California homeowners if an earthquake hit?
	And he said, of course not.
	That's the risk living in California.
	Not even wincing knowing it would cost them California votes.
	It reminds me of something I also learned from him that he said he hadn't taught me.
	That it was my own idea.
	But I know better, and I've used it ever since.
	And this applies to all of us, what we've been discussing today.
	I didn't join the Republican Party and then decide on my principles.
	I joined the Republican Party because they shared my values.
	If ever the Republican Party abandoned those principles, there would be no reason for me to stay in the party.
	Sound clairvoyant with what's going on now with the never-Trumpers?
	People like Mitt Romney who might never know a principle and hit him over the head?
	Yes, unbelievable integrity, which is why Bruce acknowledged he might never win public office.
	Another example, he invited me to speak.
	He was invited to speak at a big event with a CEO, I'll leave his name out, inviting him of a big, huge corporation.
	And he met Bruce on the way in, instructing Bruce, telling Bruce what he was going to talk about.
	And Bruce immediately handed him the parking ticket and the guy said, what's this about?
	He wanted him to validate it because he left.
	No one was going to tell him what to do.
	No one, he could never be bought.
	He was loyal maybe to a fault.
	After I worked speaking for him during his campaign, I asked him if I could be one of his delegates to the state Republican Party when that actually meant something.
	He had several appointees, and boy was I honored when he appointed me.
	We would become fast friends, and I always invited him on my television and radio shows.
	Now, mind you, he always came dressed in a suit to the radio, and when I reminded him it was radio, he said to me he never went outside without wearing a sports coat, even to McDonald's.
	That was Bruce, as classy as they come.
	He was one of the few, you might know this, who urged his friend, President Richard Nixon, not to resign from the presidency.
	But even the hated Nixon was better than the Democrats then or now.
	He said, Nixon said, he wouldn't do that to the country.
	But there's a Nixon story, Sean, I want you to hear this.
	I don't know if I ever said it on Dennis' show or Larry's show, that Bruce told me that was precious.
	Bruce had visited many countries around the world, and when he reached 80 countries, he knew he might have passed President Nixon's number.
	You may know that Dennis has now visited well over 100 countries, but in those times, 80 was a lot.
	But when Bruce reached 80, he called up the president and asked President Nixon if he'd come down and tell him something.
	He gets the Nixon home in San Clemente and excitedly tells the president he'd finally topped the former president in countries visited.
	President Nixon said nothing.
	And Bruce told me, he thought to himself, what did I do?
	Coming down here just to tell him I passed him?
	What a fool I am!
	He's the President of the United States.
	So Bruce says, I blurted out, okay, I counted Vatican City.
	There was still silence.
	And Bruce said he was more than embarrassed sitting there in the quiet.
	Until finally, President Nixon responded, I did too.
	Bruce had an incredible sense of humor.
	Even in a relatively recent PBS TV show I picked up, he was explaining about government using acronyms to name their agencies.
	And since the Department of Energy already had DOE, the newly created Department of Education, couldn't use DOE. So one suggestion Bruce heard was someone said, how about the Department of Public Education?
	Until, as Bruce pointed out, that acronym would be DOPE, D-O-P-E. Maybe that's more accurate than Bruce thought, and I'm saying that as a teacher.
	Yes, he was one of a kind.
	George Will opined that for Bruce.
	I forget what magazine Will wrote for at the time.
	I'll take a hundred more of these, he said in a commentary.
	There was nobody like Bruce.
	And as I told Dennis, I once asked Bruce if he thought God was involved in the founding of this country.
	I had no idea what he would say, because as far as I knew, he was not a religious man.
	And Bruce responded, of course God was involved.
	Did you ever realize how young the founders were?
	And they got just about everything right.
	Not unlike Bruce Hershenson, who got everything just about right.
	Rest in peace, my friend.
	Let me know what you think at 1-8-Prager-776.
	Mark Isler filling in for Dennis Prager.
	How much time?
	Do we have time for a call, Sean?
	I don't think that would be fair.
	This is so apropos to talk about Bruce Hershenson now because everything he had as a human being is what we're asking the Republicans to just have part of.
	Show some courage.
	Show some loyalty to President Trump.
	After everything he's done for you guys, you wouldn't be where you were if not for him.
	Where is your courage?
	Where is your loyalty?
	That's why we're so angry.
	Not only did President Trump win, but you don't want to stand by him.
	It's unbelievable.
	1-8 Prager 776.
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	What could we have done to change the outcomes?
	Now what the Democrats did was to use the coronavirus as an excuse to loosen election rules.
	To make it easier and easier for people to vote.
	Make it easier and easier for election fraud to be committed.
	And many of the things that they did were perfectly legal.
	Underhanded, but perfectly legal.
	Now, the previous election cycle, the Republicans lost four seats in Orange County, a county that used to be reliably Republican, got wiped out in Orange County, largely because the Democrats employed a tactic known as ballot harvesting.
	Legal, underhanded, but it allows...
	Votes to be turned in later on if you've assisted a voter in filling out here's or her ballot.
	Now, obviously, assisting somebody filling out here's or her ballot is wrought with potential for fraud.
	But the Democrats pulled that off and they ended up snatching victory from the jaws of defeat for these races.
	So what do Republicans do?
	They didn't go BMW. They figured out what the Democrats did and engaged in the same kind of tactics.
	And guess what?
	All four of those seats are now back in Republican hands.
	So that's what we ought to be doing.
	I told you before that the Democrats' secret weapon was they got everybody who could fog up a vote to fog up a mirror to vote.
	And in my opinion, most people who've never voted are very likely Democrats.
	I think more Republicans are far more motivated, far more aware of what's going on.
	than your average Democrat.
	And therefore, the average non-voter or seldom voter is very likely to be a Democrat.
	And Democrats knew that.
	They went out to get them.
	Well, there are a lot of them who are Republicans, though.
	And did Republicans try and go out and get those?
	Figure out what these guys did.
	and make the arguments persuasive.
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	Is that 2020 will really go down as the year that the most powerful people on the planet The people that have the most money, the most influence the most access to capital, that control the most powerful companies, Tried to make America in their image, and they largely succeeded.
	This is a hard thing for us to admit.
	It's a hard thing for us to admit that the masters of the universe, the masters of Menlo Park, if you go back in January, all the way fast forward to today, just in 2020, they pulled off a decade of transformation in 11 months.
	Think about where we were back in January.
	Critical race theory, BLM Incorporated, were considered radical movements and radical pieces of thought.
	Not at Google, though.
	At Google and at YouTube and at the Masters of Menlo Park, they considered critical race theory to be a religious text.
	They considered Herbert Macuza and Angela Davis to be...
	What I would view Isaiah and Elijah prophets of what is to come, of some form of Hegelian dystopian nightmare.
	The country was not as digitized.
	Donald Trump was experiencing one of the greatest economies in American history, if not the greatest economy in American history.
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	Last week on Sunday, you had a Republican judge in Michigan say to the Giuliani team that a third party audit...
	You're really into the Christmas spirit.
	Is that Boulier?
	I figured out who it was?
	Me with no pop culture knowledge?
	Wow.
	But you're in the Christmas spirit, so I want to share this with you.
	Here's an amazing statistic.
	This Christmas, just eight days from now, 2.7 million children will spend the holiday separated from their incarcerated parents.
	Angel Tree is a program of the non-profit prison fellowship that serves parents behind bars by equipping you and me to share the love of Jesus with prisoners, children, and families.
	James Ackerman is the president of Prison Fellowship.
	You know, when a parent goes to prison, the household is economically devastated.
	These caregivers cannot afford to buy Christmas gifts for their own children.
	But the genius of Angel Tree is that we are purchasing the Christmas gift on behalf of the incarcerated parent.
	Yeah, as James Ackerman points out, children of prisoners should not be punished for the misdeeds of a parent.
	They deserve to experience the love of Christ that only you can make happen.
	Please help make sure these precious kids are not forgotten.
	Just go to DennisPrager.com for a gift of just $220.
	You can bless 10 children of prisoners with special Christmas presents.
	And a personal note from their incarcerated parent.
	That's amazing.
	Giving is always better than receiving anyway.
	Plus, every Angel Tree family is also given access to a free, easy-to-read copy of the Bible in English or Spanish.
	Or you can phone your donation to Dennis' Angel Tree Campaign hotline at 888-206-2801.
	That's 888-206-2801.
	Dennis' total is a little short of what they would like it to be.
	So you guys got to start calling.
	In these final days of the holiday season, you'll be blessed as you help make the child of an American prisoner experience the joy of Christmas by joining our campaign for Prison Fellowship's Angel Tree this year, and we all thank you.
	And there was an open line.
	That's now gone.
	Let's see.
	All right, let's go to Jennifer real quickly.
	Jennifer, you're on with Mark.
	Thank you so much for taking my call.
	I think it's time for a third party.
	A Donald Trump Make America Great Party and let those 74 million votes and people abandon the Republican Party the way they have abandoned our president and we the people.
	The lawsuits that Texas made should have also had the people of the state of Texas suing.
	Not just the state, but the people.
	The interesting thing, Jennifer, and thank you for your call, is that if a state sues in the Supreme Court, the fact remains that the Supreme Court has original standing.
	And they have original standing, and so there's no issue of whether it should have been heard.
	So, in any case, we agree.
	Something's got to be done.
	I have thought about a conservative party, but...
	I don't know, then you divide up the votes.
	But something's got to happen.
	We can't accept Republicans selling out, going for their own benefit.
	Let's see, go with, let's go to Steve in Santa Clarita, California.
	Steve, you're on with Mark.
	Oh, hey, Mark.
	I have a, you can soon reminisce.
	Back in 1988, I had won tickets on KBC to have opening day breakfast at home plate with Tommy Lasorda.
	So I went down there, and after breakfast, I noticed Bruce Hersenson in a suit over in the dugout having a cigarette.
	I don't think it's a great secret that he was a smoker.
	So I was a smoker, too, and I walked over there and enjoyed a cigarette with Bruce.
	He was in his suit and he was just the most gracious individual willing to converse and interact without a problem.
	And that will always be my memory of Bruce Hirschenson.
	Very sorry he lost in that election and rest in peace Bruce.
	Yes, and can you imagine what the United States Senate would be like with someone with his There'd be no doubt about what he would do, and I wouldn't always know what he would say because he was brilliant with what he would come up with.
	Just an amazing individual.
	And here it gives me a thought.
	I said this when I filled in for Larry several times after his brother had passed.
	That we often forget to spend time or energy with those we care about.
	We're so busy in life taking care of what we think are emergencies that we never get to do what's important.
	So the same thing happened with Bruce.
	I haven't called him as much in the last couple of years.
	I didn't think he was as good a health, but it's my fault.
	And someone who was close to me said, Mark, he knew how you felt about him, and he would follow your posts and follow you on the radio and so on.
	But here's another message.
	I teach life lessons even when I teach class.
	Spend more time with the people you love, because life is very short.
	It lasts only for a brief time, obviously.
	How about go to Queens, New York?
	It wasn't my hometown, but not far from Brooklyn.
	Sarah, you're on with Mark.
	Right.
	Thank you for taking my call.
	Can you hear me?
	Yes, I can.
	Thank you.
	Joe Biden was in Georgia, I think, yesterday, campaigning for Rafael Warnett, the Democrat.
	That means Joe Biden is an anti-Semite.
	He endorses anti-Semitism.
	And that's the entire Democrat Party.
	We don't understand why Kelly Locker isn't calling them anti-Semites.
	Raphael Warnack says about Jews like me, where termites, because his best friend is Louis Farrakhan, and Israel's an apartheid.
	We just got back country.
	We just got back from Israel.
	I'm in Israel many times a year.
	They love Trump.
	They hate Joe Biden.
	Joe Biden has denounced the anti-Semitism of Warnack and his Democrat Party, Linda Sarsour.
	Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib.
	And I blame the Republicans for not demanding every day just copy the Democrats' playbook and use it against them.
	She should be demanding.
	When are you going to denounce the anti-Semitism?
	And he's on, Joe Biden of your party, and Rafael, he's on tape.
	2011, 2015, 2016.
	On tape.
	Hating the Jews.
	And we're a minority.
	There's only 15 million Jewish people in the world.
	That's it.
	So Joe Biden is not a nice guy.
	He's a racist.
	He's a bigot.
	He's an anti-Semite.
	You know, Sarah, I don't.
	I don't disagree with anything you said.
	I think people have this vision, oh, he's a nice guy.
	First of all, I'm not even sure that, you know, he's...
	How can I say this gingerly, that he's all there, that, you know, things may be happening, could happen to any of us, and for that I feel sorry for him.
	But he's never, in his 47 years, whatever it is, he's never done anything except wheel and deal.
	No wonder Mitch McConnell, now that I think of it, has congratulated him.
	He's one of the same kind.
	If I shortchange it, I'll keep you over.
	Douglas in Serbia, overseas.
	Hello, Mark.
	Hi.
	Yeah, I'm from Bowling Green, Rand Paul's.
	I have two legal addresses in Kentucky.
	One of my sisters mailing, but I'm from Bowling Green.
	And I called my representative, Guthrie, kind of filled him out, and called Rand about a week ago to see how he's doing.
	But the senior.
	We're going to run out of time, so you've got to make your point.
	The seniors.
	Mitch McConnell's crooked.
	When Matt Bevin ran, I went to his rallies and stuff.
	He's a vet like me.
	Okay, hold on.
	I'll let you finish your story.
	one eight prager seven seven six mark i so filling in for dennis prager training the charlie kirk show the richer richer Google and Facebook are more powerful than ever before.
	Normal people have had their voice suppressed.
	Anywhere between 250 to 275 to 300,000 people have died from the Chinese coronavirus.
	The lockdowns have killed dreams, ambitions, and human beings through suicide and other means.
	How did all of this happen?
	Aristotle famously said that we are the speaking beings.
	If we do not have the ability to speak and communicate, we are no different than the animals of the wild.
	Aristotle was a scientist.
	Some would call him an empiricist.
	It's not a perfect categorization, but he cared about what was happening in the natural world, where Plato cared about what was happening in the clouds.
	The space of ideas.
	Aristotle cared a lot about what was actually provable and based in reason.
	That's why he is called just the philosopher in a lot of traditions.
	So when you're not able to speak, when you're not able to spread ideas, don't be surprised when your entire civilization starts to unravel.
	So when you're not able to say, hey, I think hydroxychloroquine might actually work.
	And all of a sudden, your YouTube account gets shut down, your Twitter account gets shut down, your Facebook page gets shut down.
	You get fired like Dr. Simone Gold.
	These Soviet-style tactics that are used suppress speech.
	So what ended up happening?
	There was a massive PR push done by some great doctors, Dr. Erickson, Dr. Simone Gold, amongst many others, to try to just start a conversation.
	on how hydroxychloroquine could be helpful.
	Keep up with what's trending.
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	And a man who had been a Democrat, really, in every meaningful metric that term provides.
	Became a Republican president, the likes of which not even I expected. .
	Nobody, nobody expects, nobody, there is, you cannot find for me right now a piece of writing, an interview from 2016 in which anyone stated this will be a president more conservative than Ronald Reagan.
	Nobody said that.
	But it's true.
	Oh, how true.
	Pick any issue.
	Whether it's national security, staring down China, giving a green light to the Pentagon to target and kill more than 200 Russian mercenaries on the soil of Syria trying to destabilize the Middle East, building the wall 400 miles of it already.
	Or keeping our promise to bring our troops back from endless stupid wars.
	A man who was even more pro-life than the great Ronald Reagan.
	The first president ever to address the March for Life.
	To talk at the March for Life of the sanctity of the unborn child.
	A man who even in the most technical, philosophical avenues of conservatism was without parallel.
	Keep up with what's true.
	Mark Aishler sitting in for Dennis Prager.
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	I said I want to do that And now that the holidays are coming I should have time to sign on too I think I will do that Alright, let's I promised Douglas But you've got to finish up Douglas, you're on with Mark Go ahead Okay, well yeah I'm over here in Serbia with my wife Staying here because my buck goes further, that's why.
	And, yeah, I went out in Matt Bevin rallies.
	He did not win against McConnell.
	And he became the next governor.
	But that election was stolen from him.
	And Tom Fenton had an injunction, you know, to clean the polls up in Jefferson County after Louisville.
	And recently on my Twitter and stuff, you see where the vote pally got switched.
	I got, just because I got to go, Douglas, I hate to be unfair.
	I get it.
	I don't know enough about Kentucky to know if what you're going to say is accurate.
	That McConnell may have been involved in theft.
	I don't know that to be a fact.
	I don't know enough about it.
	But, you know, I gave you a chance.
	Let's go to Victor in Vancouver, Washington.
	Your Honor with Mark.
	Yeah, thank you.
	To have a legal election, you have to throw out all illegal votes.
	And any law that isn't upheld, if a judge doesn't uphold the law...
	That judge has said that you can count illegal votes, which is an illegal judgment.
	Therefore, that judge, the sheriff, then he takes an oath to uphold the Constitution.
	He should come and de-seat that judge, and they seat in another judge that will uphold written law, not a judge's opinion.
	Most of the judges are just party sellouts, and what they do is they don't pay any attention to the law.
	They make a political decision according to their whims or their party dictates.
	And that includes the Supreme Court.
	The Supreme Court has no more right to break the law than you or I. And if they break written law that a sixth grader could read and understand what the Constitution says, they disobey it.
	Article 3, Section 2 says that they're supposed to adjudicate cases between the states and citizens, between different states and different citizens.
	And they didn't uphold the law.
	And there isn't any law that is a law unless it's enforced.
	And none of our laws are being enforced.
	So basically, we are a lawless country, and it's just political hacks that judge according to their political whims.
	If the sheriffs won't do it, and all of our elected officials that we put in there to uphold the law won't uphold the law, then there is only one other place, and that's the generals and the military.
	Right.
	I'm not ready to go there.
	Up until then, it made sense to me.
	The fact is, what the Supreme Court was so outrageous, what they did, was it's right there in the Constitution that they have original jurisdiction, as you said, when it comes to disagreements between the states.
	They refused to hear the case saying it didn't have standing.
	They didn't have standing.
	How could that be?
	And not only that, by not ruling, they actually did rule.
	Because now, Pennsylvania and the other states, they don't have to follow the law that the state legislatures decide on election law.
	Courts can do it.
	Secretary of State's can do it.
	Party officials, I guess, can do it.
	Anybody can do it.
	Because you guys don't have the courage to enforce.
	The Constitution, what it says.
	Only the state legislatures, they're given authority to decide on election law.
	And that's not what happened.
	But they punted.
	They passed.
	They had no courage.
	That's why I called several of my hours, maybe hours about, having some courage.
	Let's go to Arono.
	Minnesota and Dan.
	Dan, you're on with Mark.
	Hello.
	You were close.
	Orono.
	Orono.
	I didn't know what to say.
	Orono, Minnesota.
	Yeah, it's a beautiful, beautiful area.
	It's amazing to see.
	I don't know what you know about Lake Minnetonka.
	I've heard of it.
	Probably one of the most prestigious lakes in America.
	It has many multi-million dollar homes built by people who made it in the capitalist free enterprise system.
	Praise God.
	All right.
	Praise God.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Your point's going to...
	I'm sorry.
	I shouldn't have taken your call because there wasn't much time left.
	So we'll get to you right after the break.
	1-8 Prager 776. We'll hear what you have to say.
	Mark Geist there for Dennis Prager.
	Trending now on the Larry Oller Show.
	What could we have done to change the outcome?
	Now, what the Democrats did was to use the coronavirus as an excuse to loosen election rules, to make it easier and easier for people to vote, make it easier and easier for election fraud to be committed.
	And many of the things that they did were perfectly legal, underhanded, but perfectly legal.
	Now, the previous election cycle The Republicans lost four seats in Orange County, a county that used to be reliably Republican, got wiped out in Orange County, largely because the Democrats employed a tactic known as ballot harvesting.
	Legal, underhanded, but it allows votes to be turned in later on if you've assisted a voter in filling out his or her ballot.
	Now, obviously, assisting somebody filling out his or her ballot is wrought with potential for fraud.
	But the Democrats pulled that off, and they ended up snatching victory from the jaws of defeat for these races.
	So what did Republicans do?
	They didn't go BMW. They figured out what the Democrats did and engaged in the same kind of tactics.
	And guess what?
	All four of those seats are now back in Republican hands.
	So that's what we ought to be doing.
	I told you before that the Democrats' secret weapon was they got everybody who could fog up a vote to fog up a mirror to vote.
	And in my opinion, most people who've never voted are very likely Democrats.
	I think more Republicans are far more motivated, far more aware of what's going on than your average Democrat.
	And therefore, the average non-voter or seldom voter is very likely to be a Democrat.
	And Democrats knew that.
	They went out to get them.
	Well, there are a lot of them who are Republicans, though.
	And did Republicans try and go out and get those?
	Figure out what these guys did.
	and make the arguments persuasive.
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	Is that 2020 will really go down as the year that the most powerful people on the planet The people that have the most money, the most influence The most access to capital that control the most powerful companies, they tried to make America in their image, and they largely succeeded.
	This is a hard thing for us to admit.
	It's a hard thing for us to admit that the masters of the universe, the masters of Menlo Park, if you go back in January, all the way fast forward to today, just in 2020, they pulled off a decade of transformation.
	In 11 months.
	Think about where we were back in January.
	Critical race theory, BLM Incorporated, were considered radical movements and radical pieces of thought.
	Not at Google, though.
	At Google and at YouTube and at the Masters of Menlo Park, they considered critical race theory to be a religious text.
	To be what I would view Isaiah and Elijah prophets of what is to come, of some form of Hegelian dystopian nightmare.
	The country was not as digitized.
	Donald Trump was experiencing one of the greatest economies in American history, if not the greatest economy in American history.
	keep up with what's trending subscribe on youtube today trending now on the eric metaxas show last week on sunday you had the um a republican judge in michigan say to the giuliani team that a third-party audit could go forward You
	don't have a girlfriend?
	Okay.
	Well, just in case you did, I was saying she'd probably reject you after she heard this music.
	Let's go.
	Dan, I promised I'd be back with Dan.
	Dan, you're on with Mark.
	Hi, Mark.
	And it's so great to have you on the radio here in the radio.
	Thanks.
	I just want to encourage all conservative, God-fearing Americans who love Donald Trump, don't worry.
	He will remain our president.
	I fully believe that.
	I kind of...
	We explore a lot of alternative news sources.
	Some of them don't have complete accurate information all of the time, but a lot of them do.
	But I understand Michigan now is on the docket with the Supreme Court.
	The others will follow suit.
	Arizona will be at the Supreme Court.
	All of these new cases have standing, inarguably.
	And really, if Donald Trump fails at every one of the lawsuits at the Supreme Court level, he still has other pathways.
	And I understand one of them is military, really a military court, and he could establish, I know it sounds crazy, but he could enforce or enable the Insurrection Act.
	There's a lot of ways to go, and that's why he and everybody around him are so confident he will remain our president.
	And not to worry, it'll all be okay.
	And all these creeps, these swamp rats are going to go to jail.
	Dan, will you give me your phone number to make sure you're right, and then I'll call you.
	In case you're wrong.
	Yeah, you can call me.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm giving you a hard time.
	Yeah, that's fine.
	God bless you.
	Thanks for what you do.
	It's time to be courageous, America.
	I agree.
	Thanks, Dan.
	God bless you, too.
	That's what my theme has been all day today.
	Really, we can't allow this election to be stolen like this.
	And for those who don't want to believe that, write me and say outrageous things to me.
	They don't know the facts or they don't want to know the facts.
	Look, I said if you're on the left, I respect that.
	If all these people are critical of me and President Trump and people who support him, just admit who you are.
	Say, I'm never going to accept whatever happened.
	I don't want to look at any of the evidence if there is any even evidence.
	I can respect that more.
	I respect Nancy Pelosi more than some of you, especially some in my party.
	Because at least you know where she stands.
	She'll do anything and everything to win.
	Why can't you guys be the same?
	You don't want to?
	You like the benefits?
	You like the culture of Washington, D.C.? Yeah, I get it.
	We've got to get rid of you, but I get it.
	Let's go to Livonia, Minnesota, and Rob.
	Or is it Livonia, Michigan?
	It's Michigan.
	Yeah, it should be Michigan.
	Go ahead, Rob.
	Yes, sir.
	I'm one of those people that I'm a fax person.
	I'm not an engineer, but I've worked in engineering.
	I was a nuclear power plant operator in the Navy, so I have a lot of that background, so I am definitely a cause-and-effect person.
	And my former state senator, who is a Christian man, Patrick Colbeck, actually he got torpedoed in his run for the governor of Michigan by the establishment Republicans.
	He was a poll watcher at the TCF Center in Wayne County, and he's also Microsoft certified.
	And he saw lots of anomalies.
	And as I search a lot of things for good facts, You get people like the chairman of Smartmatic is on the Biden transition team.
	You have the director of Dominion Systems who said that his software flipped a million votes in Venezuela.
	And, you know, you can go on and on and on.
	You've got some people.
	The Attorney General of Michigan went after somebody who put up a recording of somebody from the Democrats downtown.
	Telling them how they could, you know, remove ballots and things like that.
	There's so many questions, Antrim County, and other ways, you know, that I'm totally convinced this was probably the most fraudulent election in the United States it's ever seen.
	That's what I wrote on Facebook.
	This was the most fraudulent election in our history.
	You know, maybe I'm wrong, and they were fraudulent, but not on this scale.
	not on this, you know, the intent and how many votes.
	Look, they stopped it in the middle of the night, it's clear to me, to make up for the votes they never thought they'd have to with Trump, get the machines, get the ballots.
	You know, people don't know the machines supposedly were set at one tally for Trump, you're an engineer, another one for Biden.
	All these things have to be investigated.
	But there are enough affidavits out there by people who swear to what happened, the fraud going on, that this needs to be investigated.
	The least the senators should do and the congressmen should do is to have some hearings, see what's going on, as he did in Wisconsin.
	You're absolutely right, Rob.
	This election was stolen.
	Thanks for your call.
	Absolutely.
	And another thing that I should mention, too, is subdomains for these Dominion systems We're actually in China.
	I've heard that.
	What does that tell you?
	Yep, I've heard that.
	I don't know, but it has to be investigated.
	We can't just let it go.
	Absolutely.
	Thanks so much, Rob, for your call.
	Now, do I go to all the people who are unhappy with me or with Dennis with only a few time left?
	This one is not.
	John.
	I'll give those other people more time if I can.
	John in Cleveland, Ohio, you're on with Mark.
	Hi.
	A while ago you had a call from a lady.
	Or said we need to start a new Trump-like party or something like that.
	That is the worst idea ever.
	The bottom line is, the only thing that works is, you've got the two-party system going, nothing else comes close.
	A guy used to call them the libertarians, who are the ones who get close to call them losertarians, because they always lose.
	You have to work with the system.
	You have two, quote-unquote, Republican parties, a conservative Republican party, a more moderate Republican party.
	Guaranteed the left wins.
	Guaranteed.
	Thank you.
	That was my problem with it, too.
	Let's give Greg one of the people on the other side some time.
	Go ahead, Greg.
	You're on with Mark.
	Hi, Mark.
	Hi.
	So it occurs to me that the Republicans had exactly the same opportunities to cheat as the Democrats.
	So I'm wondering why nobody's talking about Republican fraud in the election.
	So where was there fraud that you know about?
	Well, I don't think anybody knows of any fraud anywhere.
	They're trying to prove it.
	Have you ignored everything everybody's been saying?
	We have very little time.
	I'll hold you on.
	We'll see if we can get back to you.
	You said 15, Sean?
	Go ahead, Greg.
	So many things.
	I don't have time.
	From ballots being put through the machines three times to more.
	90,000 with just Biden's name on it.
	That never happens.
	I majored in political science.
	To people swearing under oath.
	In Georgia, as an example, they said it was a leak.
	A major leak.
	And it wasn't a leak.
	It was a urinal leak.
	Pennsylvania not even following their own state legislature and saying you could...
	Put ballots in three days.
	It goes on and on forever.
	But I appreciate your call.
	I wish we had more time.
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	Let's look at the last four years.
	Let's look at the last 40 years and ask the question that a former communist revolutionary asked.
	What is to be done?
	Well, that question must be approached with an adequate understanding Of what happened four years ago in 2016. Because it was such a strange occurrence.
	Something that no man or woman could have predicted.
	How a reality TV star who was really, really not a member of the Manhattan jet set, who was rejected By that jet set for the longest time until a certain member of that community took him under her wing.
	That individual who'd never run for political office before, who toyed with the idea of being a mayor or even running for president, decided to come down those escalators with his beautiful wife.
	And most people, almost everyone, except, you know, the odd caller to our show, wrote it off as a publicity stunt, as something to be laughed at, until he defeated every single, what was it, 16 or 17 GOP candidates, most of whom were just processed politicians from within the so-called swamp.
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	Listen to what Joe Biden said about the actions like the one we saw last night in Minneapolis.
	To literally defund the police.
	But I also don't think we should get too far ahead of ourselves on dealing with police reform in that because they've already labeled us as being defund the police.
	Anything we put forward in terms of the organizational structure to change policing, which I promise you will occur.
	Promise you.
	Just think to yourself and give me advice whether we should do that before January 5th.
	Because that's how they beat the living hell out of us across the country, saying that we're talking about defunding the police.
	We're not.
	We're talking about holding them accountable.
	Nothing screams holding them accountable better than stripping eight million...
	I think the hardest thing I do is watching Sean dance.
	Well, not that I could dance, but I could be critical.
	It's hard.
	That's a hard part of the job.
	When Alan calls me up or something and says, Mark, you want to fill in?
	I say, do I have to watch Sean?
	I say it every time.
	Worse, do I have to get along with him?
	Speaking of that, I've got to thank Leslie for screening the calls.
	They come in rapidly here.
	And, of course, Christian.
	Making everything happen, too.
	It's always a team effort, and I appreciate that.
	I'm just the guy you hear, but they're the ones behind the scenes.
	And you can tell how much I care about Sean and how good I think he is, because I don't know.
	All right, let's see.
	So I got rid of that one.
	I don't mean rid of.
	I mean, I did talk to one of the people who opposed me.
	Everybody, one person has enough balance.
	Okay, let's go to Joe in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
	You're on with Mark.
	Hey, Mark, thanks for taking the call.
	Listen, I just don't know, I cannot understand why the FBI has not investigated one, not interviewed one of the people that have been identified as ballot stuffers, or have they been told to stand down in the most...
	Voter suppression case in the history of the United States of America.
	Why isn't the FBI all over this?
	So did you hear me?
	You probably didn't in the first hour say Christopher Ray should have gone a long time ago.
	I never understood when he was first selected.
	If anything, Trump didn't do well.
	It was some of the picks he made, right?
	But I have no respect for him.
	The FBI, the courts, the Justice Department bars let us down terribly.
	The whole thing has to be cleaned out.
	And I think Schumer hinted at that years ago, told Trump, you mess with the wrong.
	I'm paraphrasing.
	You didn't say this.
	This way, you mess with these people and they're going to get you ten times over, right?
	They'll come back at you.
	Donald Trump had the courage to do that and that's why it hasn't happened.
	We've got people who are invested with power and power and money and I wouldn't even say fame in this case.
	That's enough to drive anybody to do the wrong thing, right?
	If you're religious, you believe that that's how we came out.
	We didn't come out as good people.
	Let's go to...
	This is a good one.
	I'm sorry.
	We're running out of time.
	Lewis in Aurora, Colorado.
	You're on with Mark.
	Yeah, Mark.
	Thank you for taking my call.
	You know, these people that don't want to do anything concerning this election, I think they fear riots all over this country.
	Antifa and Black Lives Matter.
	And, you know, that guy that you had a while back, if you spend a year with him, We wouldn't believe what you said concerning the election.
	I gotta go, but I think I would after a year.
	I think I could move in my way.
	But here's what you need to move, all of you people out there.
	We could never, ever give up, as Winston Churchill said.
	President Trump won this by a landslide.
	I'm convinced of that.
	And either we stop it now, or we never stop it.
	I always finish the show the same way.
	It's a privilege to have a microphone.
	In the greatest country in the history of the world, we have to keep it that way.

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