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Suspicion in Key States
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| Actually, he's the dean of election experts in America. | |
| John Fund. | |
| I won't even ask, how are you? | |
| I'll just say hi. | |
| I got some sleep the last couple days. | |
| Is that a good sign? | |
| As opposed to... | |
| Sleep is good. | |
| Sleep is good. | |
| That is correct. | |
| I don't get much sleep, but I'm lucky. | |
| I'm almost like Donald Trump on the sleep issue. | |
| I don't need a lot. | |
| Anyway, John, I have no idea what you will say, truly, but I simply respect you so much I want to get your take. | |
| If you had to bet your right leg, do you believe, would you vote that, would you bet that this was an honest result or not? | |
| Depends on the state. | |
| Most of the country voted very smoothly. | |
| Most of the country voted well. | |
| Most of the country didn't have major problems. | |
| But where there were people who wanted there to be problems, who planned to have problems, who engineered problems, there were problems. | |
| Were there enough problems to have determined the election? | |
| Maybe, but can you prove them before December 8th when states certify the votes and name their electors at the Electoral College? | |
| Highly doubtful. | |
| Right. | |
| So I'm not asking what will work. | |
| I'm just asking, and it's really an open question. | |
| I believe, I did not know last week, but the more I have read, the more I have become. | |
| Suspicious of the results in states like Pennsylvania and Michigan and so on. | |
| Wisconsin. | |
| So that's... | |
| Was there enough... | |
| Were there enough shenanigans to alter the result? | |
| Well, Dennis, I'm going to have to give you a different answer, which is this. | |
| In March and April, when we had COVID, This was planned chaos. | |
| Our election system isn't equipped to go to that transition that quickly. | |
| So if you go from 20% of the vote cast early or absentee to 60 or 65, you're going to have massive problems. | |
| You're going to have a tsunami of ballots. | |
| And in that tsunami of ballots, you're not going to have the same safeguards and oversight and verification that you would normally have. | |
| And that is where the thesis of my first book 20 years ago began, when I said what we really have to fear in this country is a situation of planned chaos in our elections where you can't tell where the incompetence ends and the fraud begins. | |
| Why some states and not others? | |
| Some states weren't close. | |
| I mean, do you really want to invest resources in making sure that... | |
| New Mexico goes to all-male elections. | |
| No, we know how New Mexico is going to vote. | |
| Do you really want to be sure how North Dakota is going to vote? | |
| No, we know how North Dakota is going to vote. | |
| They targeted and picked the states where they changed the election rules. | |
| Oh, so there wasn't mass mail-in in New Mexico or North Dakota? | |
| Well, there was greater, but the point is the shift, the dramatic shift. | |
| In Pennsylvania, it was from 4% of the vote cast earlier absentee to over 50. Pennsylvania, of course, was the critical state of any state of the country. | |
| In California, it didn't so much matter. | |
| They've already gone to basically all mail-in voting. | |
| But in states where it really counted, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, you can predict the states as much as I can, Nevada. | |
| The shift was dramatic. | |
| And it overloaded the system, and it meant a lot of things could happen behind the curtain that we'll never know about. | |
| So is it fair to say, I'll ask, I'll put on your analyst hat now. | |