I mean, it would be so poignantly absurd if they didn't.
And, I mean, there's just no tricks they can pull.
Some people were like, oh, they might try to lead you off the list.
I was like, 90,000 copies sold on Amazon alone.
I mean, that's not even separate from Barnes& Noble or anywhere else.
So I feel pretty optimistic that they will, and that they just, you know, at a certain point, at a certain amount of number of books, they just have to do what's right if they want to be taken seriously.
Not that anyone's ever accused the New York Times of wanting to be taken seriously.
Right.
Well, they do want to be taken seriously.
They have no reason to expect it, but they do.
So, yeah, well, in any event, I could actually...
Do you know Candace?
I'm not kidding.
If somebody paid me, and I don't mean an exorbitant sum, but I'd have to be paid for my time, write the review that you expect the New York Times to write on Candace Owens' book, I could write the review.
No, I would, because I know what they would, it is not possible to think that you and Ta-Nehisi Coates or Zandi, Ibram Zandi, If I have his name right, or the White Fragility folks, you can't both be right.
Either two and two is four or it's five.
Have you read, and I don't expect that you have, but have you read or know about White Fragility?
I know about the book White Fragility, but I have not read it because I'm trying to maintain my brain cells.
Okay, fine.
So this notion...
First of all, how do you react to the notion all whites are racist?
I mean, it's just, even that sentence is racist.
I mean, think of it again, going back to the definition of racism, assigning attributes to the ties for people based on their race.
So a statement like all whites are racist is actually a racist statement.
All whites are privileged is a racist statement.
And it's just so frustrating that it just took a couple of decades for people to completely forget what racism is.
And to think that somehow, flip it on its head, it's no longer racism, and it is.
You know, that is the exercise.
If you said a sentence, I always say remove the word white and put blacks.
And how does that sentence make you feel, right?
All blacks are racist.
That's right.
People would freak out, you know?
When I see these articles in BuzzFeed, white people need to just shut up.
Imagine if that same article said black people need to just shut up.
The world would explode.
They would say it was racist.
So why have we suddenly arrived into a society that permits that sort of language if it's spoken against white people?
This is supposed to be some what?
what some retribution from the times of slavery.
I'm demanding white people that never held slaves pay, black people that were never slaves, and that's supposed to make you feel good, and that doesn't feel like an injustice.
People miss the forest for the trees here.
And it's almost not their fault because there is a mass brainwashing going on, the psychological conditioning that's happening because of the media, which is working with the politicians.
Who can no longer discern between right and wrong, right?
We used to agree, but left in the right, on some basic concepts of right and wrong, right?
This was never up for debate.
It's wrong to lose.
It's wrong to riot.
It would be crazy to say defund the police.
Now, we don't agree on those things.
They always have a, but it can be right.
It's okay to lose in right if you're just feeling emotional and upset.
It's okay to attack a business owner's door because of past depressions that you never lived through.
And that's a scary place to be in, when adults and people in places of power can no longer discern between basic concepts of goodness and righteousness and wrongness.
That's right.
So you are leaving Black exit from the Democratic Party.
Let me tell you my reaction and have you react to it, if you would.
I think you're making headway, and I don't live in a world of rose-colored glasses.
But I have a sense that there is more openness to the question, has the Democratic Party been good for me?
And for other Blacks, it is more capable of being heard today than at any time in my life.
Yes, and that's exactly right.
And, you know, I really do think that I've made an impact there because I was extremely strategic.
People didn't understand what I was doing when I first arrived on the scene.
Not everybody is PragerU who understood the importance of the, you know, the cultural war and the battle that I was fighting.
But I was very intentional.
Each of my actions.
And there were times people were like, you know, this is not the way to be a conservative.
You know, I've been loud, I've been in their face, and I've been questioning their narrative unapologetically.
And that's the difference between some older generations who are much brighter than I. Dr. Ben Carson, he's a literal neurosurgeon who separated conjoined twins.
You've got Dr. Connelly's wife, but they were so polite.
That it allowed people to just, they would never respond when somebody called them an Uncle Tom or Coon.
They'd just take it.
And I realized that that was the mistake, is that we have to fight back as black conservatives.
We have to show them that we're not here to apologize for being right.
And I've done that.
I've pushed back because I also realized that the black American condition...
For many people, when we're talking about a group of people that have a 77% rate of father absence, father absence leads to a disrespectful group of people who don't respond well to authority.
You've never had that staple in your life, right?
So being kind and trying to show them statistics doesn't really work.
I've approached this with a different attitude.
You know, they don't respect me and I'm not here to try to earn their...
Friendship or their respect.
I'm here to say the facts, and I'm not going to apologize for saying facts.
And in the process, I happen to have earned a lot of their respect for standing up there and saying it and not backing down.
Have you made any offers to the Ta-Nehisi Coates types to debate?
Yes.
I mean, please, I have offered up me, and then they say, oh, you're just, the clout chasing is their thing now, the favorite thing to say.
You're just trying to become puss.
You know, get into the room, and I say, okay, I'm going to take someone else.
Take Larry Elder.
If no one would do, I wouldn't do that.
I would never try to debate Larry Elder.
We're on the same side, right?
That's right.
Man, as I walk in, it's like, with you, you stay away from that debate.
That's right.
And Larry's been doing that his whole life, trying to debate the Alistair.
They don't do it because they know they're lying.
And if you know you're lying, it's not wise to step into a room with the truth.
Lies need to hide themselves.
The truth doesn't.
There's not a single leftist that I am afraid to debate.
I've had some of my shows that weren't willing.
I mean, I had Mark Lamont Hill on the show.
I watched that, yeah.
People were saying, oh, you embarrassed us.
This didn't make sense.
But that's the reason.
I'd love to have the conversation because I want to expose their lies, but they're not willing to because they're platform guys once they get exposed.