Dr. Barke Attacked for His Positions ⎜The Dennis Prager Radio Show
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Good morning, Dennis.
Thanks for having me.
I appreciate it.
Did you ever think you would be a national star?
Well, listen, I don't look at it that way.
I'm not a star.
I'm just an ordinary guy that is speaking out and having the courage to do so.
So, no, I never thought that my voice would go national and actually international.
But to the extent that I represent literally thousands of physicians around the country.
And their voices are not being heard, a rational voice, a different voice than the mainstream narrative, then I'm happy to do so.
What is your message?
My message is really this.
I think we've overreacted in a big way.
We are harming people like we've never seen happen before with the shutdown of the economy.
You know, I wrote a piece recently that was published in the American Thinker, and I was channeling you as I wrote it.
I titled it Better Safe Than Sorry.
And what I point out is that we're at depression levels of unemployment right now.
We're seeing domestic violence at the highest levels we've ever seen.
Our local sheriff here in Orange County, Sheriff Don Barnes, reports that our 911 systems are being overwhelmed by domestic violence calls.
And remember, one domestic violence case is lifelong.
That person will be affected for many, many years to come.
The World Health Organization has estimated that we're going to see Up to 30 million children die as a result of poverty.
Make that the World Vision Organization published in the LA Times recently.
We are literally letting criminals out of jail, yet preventing Americans from defending themselves by buying guns, at least in California, because gun stores are all closed.
There's a report out of Ontario, Canada, where there's How many of your fellow physicians have reached out to you?
A lot of them have, but here's the reality.
You know, when I recorded a video at a protest, actually my wife turned on the camera, I'd asked her just to take a couple pictures, and she recorded it, and then later posted it on Facebook, and this video literally went viral.
The problem is, after that went viral, it's not my ideas that are being attacked, and I'm not suggesting that my ideas are the only correct ones, although I do think I'm correct.
We're now being attacked viciously.
Not my ideas, but me personally.
Threats to call the medical board to try to have my license taken away.
Threats to call my local hospital association to have me removed from staff at my hospital.
And then my family and kids are brought into the equation as well.
I'm happy to defend my position because I think my positions are right.
But to bring my family and to attack me personally is just unconscionable and is the epitome of lack of tolerance that we see mostly from the left.
The attacks on you have any come from physicians?
No, not really.
I've had disagreements with physicians about the issue of herd immunity, about whether we should wear masks.
And so forth.
But they're not attacks on me personally.
They're just attacks about my—not attacks, rather.
They're just arguments against some of my positions.
And some of them make sense, by the way.
I learn from criticism.
I learn from an interaction about what I believe to be the case and what others believe to be the case.
And I've altered some of my positions, even, in having robust discussions with my fellow physicians.
But none of them are attacking me personally.
They're just discussing my ideas.
Give me an example of a position you've modified.
So one example, for example, is this idea of herd immunity.
Now, I believe, and I've heard you talk about it and others talk about it as well, that the only path forward at this point, since we don't have a vaccination, we will likely not have a vaccination for the foreseeable future, is to expose the young and the healthy.