Dennis Prager Show - Mac Donald: People in NYC Locked in for Weeks⎜The Dennis Prager Radio Show Aired: 2020-04-28 Duration: 04:43 === Reading MacDonald's Piece (02:57) === [00:00:00] Heather MacDonald, ladies and gentlemen, is one of the most insightful writers and speakers in the U.S. She's a contributing editor for the arguably best journal, now written city journal, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute. [00:00:18] So, let's try to give a picture here. [00:00:22] Do you live in Manhattan? [00:00:24] I do. [00:00:25] I live in Manhattan. [00:00:27] Walking distance to Central Park. [00:00:30] And are you locked down on your own? [00:00:35] Well, I believe in exercise. [00:00:37] I'm not going to accept this idea. [00:00:40] People seem to be interpreting these lockdowns in as draconian a fashion as possible. [00:00:49] I go to the park early in the morning, and then I go out two more times a day. [00:00:56] To get exercise. [00:00:57] But there are people in my building who I don't think have been out for weeks of their apartment. [00:01:05] This is unfathomable to me. [00:01:08] Now, there's also a lot of people who have left the city entirely for their country homes because this place is a ghost town. [00:01:16] It's a tragedy to see every single day the city in a complete, static, moribund state. [00:01:27] So I have a question. [00:01:28] I read your wonderful piece in The Spectator. [00:01:31] I'm a subscriber to The Spectator because I like to keep everything conservative alive. [00:01:36] It's my little way. [00:01:37] It's a great, great journal. [00:01:41] And it's published in England, but they have an American edition. [00:01:44] We put up Heather MacDonald's piece, ladies and gentlemen, up at DennisPrager.com. [00:01:50] You and I think so similarly. [00:01:53] That it actually presents a challenge whenever I have an interview with you. [00:01:58] No, I'm totally serious. [00:02:00] It's eerie how similarly we think. [00:02:04] To this point, yesterday I did my weekly fireside chat. [00:02:09] And it goes up on Thursdays. [00:02:13] It's my 132nd edition. [00:02:15] I never miss a week. [00:02:17] And guess what I talked about? [00:02:20] The religion. [00:02:22] Of being safe. [00:02:23] And what did you do? [00:02:25] You gave the religion a name. [00:02:28] Safetyism. [00:02:29] I love it. [00:02:32] I refuse when I'm saying goodbye to somebody on the phone to say, be safe. [00:02:38] Because it presumes the opposite. [00:02:41] That we're not safe. === Voodoo Public Health (02:00) === [00:02:42] And it's simply not a particularly relevant category as far as I'm concerned. [00:02:48] Now, obviously... [00:02:49] During this current moment, there are groups that are at extreme risk, and we should do everything we can to protect them. [00:02:57] But the idea that we're all going around to each other, perfectly healthy people, even though I guess I'm officially in an age category that has a higher level of risk, warning each other to be safe is just completely ridiculous. [00:03:14] How about be literate? [00:03:17] Be informed. [00:03:18] Be knowledgeable. [00:03:19] Be enlightened. [00:03:21] But be safe. [00:03:22] That's kind of the lowest common denominator. [00:03:25] And one that we don't otherwise live by. [00:03:27] I mean, that's what's so curious about this moment. [00:03:30] This came out of the university and has now engulfed everybody. [00:03:35] I mean, we're all looking for safe spaces. [00:03:38] When I see people... [00:03:41] Running in Central Park at 5.30 a.m. [00:03:45] or whizzing around the park 20 miles an hour on their bike wearing masks. [00:03:50] Oh, God bless you. [00:03:52] As if on a bicycle in 843 acres you're going to get infected. [00:03:58] Right. [00:03:58] It's absurd. [00:04:00] Well, you know, I've told my listeners, my realization that epidemiology is voodoo... [00:04:09] Some epidemiologists like John Ianides at Stanford are true scientists, but by and large it's voodoo. [00:04:15] And I knew it because of the secondhand smoke stuff. [00:04:21] And people actually... [00:04:23] Do you know that there are now articles in science journals of thirdhand smoke? [00:04:27] Yeah. [00:04:29] Public health has been politicized for a very long time, whether it ever was not. [00:04:35] I think that was definitely a case time. [00:04:38] Hold on, hold on there, Heather. [00:04:40] Forgive me. [00:04:40] I've got to break because these are the people who make this show possible.