Mac Donald: People in NYC Locked in for Weeks⎜The Dennis Prager Radio Show
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Heather MacDonald, ladies and gentlemen, is one of the most insightful writers and speakers in the U.S. She's a contributing editor for the arguably best journal, now written city journal, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.
So, let's try to give a picture here.
Do you live in Manhattan?
I do.
I live in Manhattan.
Walking distance to Central Park.
And are you locked down on your own?
Well, I believe in exercise.
I'm not going to accept this idea.
People seem to be interpreting these lockdowns in as draconian a fashion as possible.
I go to the park early in the morning, and then I go out two more times a day.
To get exercise.
But there are people in my building who I don't think have been out for weeks of their apartment.
This is unfathomable to me.
Now, there's also a lot of people who have left the city entirely for their country homes because this place is a ghost town.
It's a tragedy to see every single day the city in a complete, static, moribund state.
So I have a question.
I read your wonderful piece in The Spectator.
I'm a subscriber to The Spectator because I like to keep everything conservative alive.
It's my little way.
It's a great, great journal.
And it's published in England, but they have an American edition.
We put up Heather MacDonald's piece, ladies and gentlemen, up at DennisPrager.com.
You and I think so similarly.
That it actually presents a challenge whenever I have an interview with you.
No, I'm totally serious.
It's eerie how similarly we think.
To this point, yesterday I did my weekly fireside chat.
And it goes up on Thursdays.
It's my 132nd edition.
I never miss a week.
And guess what I talked about?
The religion.
Of being safe.
And what did you do?
You gave the religion a name.
Safetyism.
I love it.
I refuse when I'm saying goodbye to somebody on the phone to say, be safe.
Because it presumes the opposite.
That we're not safe.
And it's simply not a particularly relevant category as far as I'm concerned.
Now, obviously...
During this current moment, there are groups that are at extreme risk, and we should do everything we can to protect them.
But the idea that we're all going around to each other, perfectly healthy people, even though I guess I'm officially in an age category that has a higher level of risk, warning each other to be safe is just completely ridiculous.
How about be literate?
Be informed.
Be knowledgeable.
Be enlightened.
But be safe.
That's kind of the lowest common denominator.
And one that we don't otherwise live by.
I mean, that's what's so curious about this moment.
This came out of the university and has now engulfed everybody.
I mean, we're all looking for safe spaces.
When I see people...
Running in Central Park at 5.30 a.m.
or whizzing around the park 20 miles an hour on their bike wearing masks.
Oh, God bless you.
As if on a bicycle in 843 acres you're going to get infected.
Right.
It's absurd.
Well, you know, I've told my listeners, my realization that epidemiology is voodoo...
Some epidemiologists like John Ianides at Stanford are true scientists, but by and large it's voodoo.
And I knew it because of the secondhand smoke stuff.
And people actually...
Do you know that there are now articles in science journals of thirdhand smoke?
Yeah.
Public health has been politicized for a very long time, whether it ever was not.
I think that was definitely a case time.
Hold on, hold on there, Heather.
Forgive me.
I've got to break because these are the people who make this show possible.