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People leave faith and religion.
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It's not the same thing, by the way.
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Some people leave religion and stay believers in God.
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But these reasons apply to both.
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So, number one, lack of reasons.
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Number two, the bad and unhappy models of religious people that they have had.
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And number three, their own beliefs.
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The number of people who drop belief in God because they thought God would protect them is quite large.
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I have never believed that God would protect me, and so it's very hard for God to disappoint me.
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Do you walk around believing God will protect you?
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I didn't know the answer to that.
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It was a very open question.
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So you and I have very similar beliefs.
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A serious man.
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Lovingly known as the Living Martyr, aka Alan Estrin.
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I never had that at all.
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It never occurred to me.
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Because it didn't make sense.
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Why would he protect me and not the other guy?
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I never thought I was more protection worthy than anybody else.
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So I never understand why people think that.
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I talked about this recently at an Ultimate Issues Hour.
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The man, a wonderful, wonderful human being who dropped his faith in God forever because his brother died prematurely.
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He was very close to him.
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So I said, I don't understand.
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What about when all these other brothers and sisters died of other people?
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He said, I didn't think about that.
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I thought, you know, I got out of special...
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I said, I guess I thought God had a special interest in me or something like that.
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I don't have that.
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My religion is extremely rational and that's one of the reasons is very durable.
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So those are three reasons that I think people leave.
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So let me take your calls.
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Too bad.
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Now we had a guy left Judaism.
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He's still on.
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We had a guy left Catholicism.
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He gave up.
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Maybe he changed his mind in the course of calling.
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Maybe he's back to Catholicism.
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All right, here we go.
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David in Calabasas, California.
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Pumpkins, California.
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Hi there.
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Hello, David of Pumpkins.
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Are you there?
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How do you like that?
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Calabasas.
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I know.
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What do you think Calabasas means?
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Pumpkin.
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That's right.
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Okay.
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I'm happy to talk to you.
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Thank you very much for taking my calls on a panel.
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Long time.
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Thank you.
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One of the reasons why, probably the biggest reason, is the community surrounding the synagogue.
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And it has to do mostly with politics.
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My politics are like yours.
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I'm very conservative, and most of them are very liberal.
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And they've looked down at me with that smug, pseudo-elitist tone about them, if you know what I mean.
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The other problem I have is Judaism is very, very repetitive.
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And even in the services and such...
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There's many prayers that say the same thing over and over again.
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I felt like it was a brow-beating session.
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I'm very Jewish.
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I intensify with being Jewish.
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But I just cannot sit in synagogue and listen to that over and over again.
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Alright, so you left synagogue life, but you didn't abandon faith.
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I'm not putting words in your mouth.
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I'm not trying to do that at all.
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Just tell me, did I hear you correctly?
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Absolutely.
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I have not abandoned faith.
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I absolutely believe in a higher power as God.
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I identify as being Jewish.
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I enjoy my Jewish heritage.
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I enjoy being Jewish.
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But I'm not accepted by my own.
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Right.
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That's true.
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Look, that is true.
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I have no arguments against it.
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I am personally a practicing and religious Jew, but I have no arguments against him.
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Non-Orthodox, and I'm not Orthodox.
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The non-Orthodox, I mean, I'm not observant as Orthodox Jews are.
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I'm Orthodox with a small O, but I'm with a capital O. I'm not denominationally such.
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But I'm only saying that so you'll understand that my point is not to vindicate a movement.
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It's to tell the truth.
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Non-Orthodox Judaism, like mainstream Protestantism and much of Catholicism, is run by leftists.
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And that's their religion.
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Not Catholicism, not Christianity, and not Judaism.
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Today is the Jewish holiday of Purim, and the...
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Indianapolis Jewish Federation put out a flyer to celebrate Purim at a drag...
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Bring your kids to a drag queen reading hour for Purim.
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Purim is the book of Esther holiday.
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So, I mean, it's just an example of how leftism has come to dominate Christianity and Judaism.
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Okay.
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Except for the most traditional elements in both religions.
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I feel bad for this guy.
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That's why I started my own synagogue.
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And why I conduct...
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You would love...
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What was his name?
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David.
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David would love my...
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High Holiday Services.
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Because I agree with him about the repetition and so much else.
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They're very meaningful.
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Really meaningful.
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All right, we will return in a moment.
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