Pearly Things - Pearl Davis - Jeremy Boreing is nominated for Simp of the Year Aired: 2026-05-09 Duration: 53:52 === Lowering Expectations (01:54) === [00:00:04] What is up, my people? [00:00:06] Hold on. [00:00:07] Hold on. [00:00:07] I started the show and I realized I forgot to do something. [00:00:10] One second. [00:00:12] One second. [00:00:21] I forgot to put on my second camera. [00:00:23] So it's like, hold up. [00:00:24] You know what I mean? [00:00:29] Bruh. [00:00:32] All right. [00:00:32] Well, what's going on, my guys? [00:00:40] It's a chill stream today. [00:00:42] So I want to lower the expectations. [00:00:45] They got to be low, they got to be super low. [00:00:50] Hold on one second. [00:00:52] I have [00:01:26] returned. [00:01:28] Oh my gosh, what is up with this camera? [00:01:42] All right. [00:01:42] Well, I've given up. [00:01:43] No musical intro. [00:01:45] No musical intro. [00:01:47] I know. [00:01:50] I know. [00:01:55] Someone said, I fell off. [00:01:56] It's like, well, you were never on. === The Symbiosis Problem (10:34) === [00:01:59] So I fell off, but it's like, at least I was on at one point. [00:02:05] You're like, how dare you? [00:02:06] It's like you're saying, you fell off. [00:02:08] Well, why don't you try, like, get a billion views on your YouTube channel? [00:02:12] You know what I mean? [00:02:13] It's like. [00:02:15] Did I fall off? [00:02:16] Kind of, but. [00:02:19] Okay, so today, anyways, we're gonna. [00:02:22] That's neither here nor there. [00:02:24] Today, we're talking about simps. [00:02:27] Now, I personally think that simping is a disease, and I don't know if there's a cure. [00:02:33] I really don't know if there's a cure for this disease. [00:02:38] Okay, so. [00:02:41] A simp, a slang term for somebody, usually a man. [00:02:46] Who exhibits excessive affection, attention, or deference towards another person, often in a desperate, unreciprocated attempt to win their affection or sexual favors. [00:02:58] The term suggests a submissive, desperate attitude, often viewing the person as simping or lowering their self respect to please a crush. [00:03:15] So, today we're talking about a guy who has a disease of simping. [00:03:20] Now, this is, let me see where we're supposed to start. [00:03:24] This is Jeremy Boring. [00:03:25] He is the CEO of the Daily Wire. [00:03:28] And let's see, one hour, 14. [00:03:36] And he is basically trying to help Lauren Southern repair her reputation. [00:03:41] So, Lauren Southern is by all accounts a loser, right? [00:03:46] She's a single mother. [00:03:48] She's alienated her kid from the father, right? [00:03:57] She banged like half the manosphere. [00:04:01] And instead of just taking an L and, you know, taking that L to her reputation, she has decided to gaslight all of us as if she did not do those things. [00:04:13] So today we are going to watch this. [00:04:17] Give me one second, one hour. [00:04:20] One hour, 14 minute marks where we're starting. [00:04:31] And I'm going to go a little bit further back. [00:04:44] Okay. [00:04:48] Make selfie videos for the internet and take a shower every day. [00:04:53] That's none. [00:04:54] And their husbands are the CEO of JetBlue. [00:04:56] That's right. [00:04:57] This has never existed. [00:04:58] There is no trad because there is no tradition on which this is based. [00:05:03] It's just a kind of LARPing like the Christian influencers now are doing. [00:05:07] The Christ is King set is doing a kind of LARPing, knowing that all the people who believe that Christ is King will take their side at first. [00:05:14] And it'll take them a long time to realize that, oh, you're not making a statement of affirmation about the primacy of Christ. [00:05:21] You're raising a tribal flag, knowing that people were rallied to you who don't know. [00:05:25] Like all of that is, as you say in your wonderful video, all of it's performance art. [00:05:31] And none of it is aimed at making the world better. [00:05:34] The trad movement that failed you isn't the failure of traditional marriage. [00:05:38] That's how he said that failed you. [00:05:40] Like men like this, you guys are the problem. [00:05:44] Because even your language just alleviates, she failed. [00:05:47] She's a loser, right? [00:05:48] And we can't all be winners in life. [00:05:50] I'm kind of a loser too. [00:05:51] My channel is meant for losers. [00:05:54] So, like, I'm not here to judge the losers, you know. [00:05:59] Some of us, we just can't win. [00:06:01] We just lose, lose, lose. [00:06:03] But we have to objectively say that we are losers, you know, but we're fucking with the losers here. [00:06:09] But yeah, she's objectively a loser. [00:06:12] And she used to be like the hot girl, and she could have married a bajillionaire with her looks. [00:06:18] And she just fumbled so hard. [00:06:20] Like, I was never that hot. [00:06:21] So, my downfall can't be that bad. [00:06:23] If you're not, if the high, if you're never that attractive, like, you didn't lose that much. [00:06:30] So, I can't imagine the ego hit it would take to be like a super hot girl and to just be like, pew. [00:06:36] You know what I mean? [00:06:39] That's it's the failure of an artificially constructed and artificially promulgated mask. [00:06:50] And of course, it failed you. [00:06:51] It isn't real. [00:06:52] It could never have supported you in your marriage because it doesn't exist in the real world. [00:06:58] It exists on Instagram. [00:06:59] That's the only place it is. [00:07:01] But there is something real. [00:07:03] And the real thing is the thing that we're supposed to, if we're in public life, the thing that we should be trying. [00:07:09] Wait, Doug MPA, he told me to start at 115, but there's a destiny part. [00:07:17] Oh my God. [00:07:18] I don't know. [00:07:20] Maybe I need to go earlier in this. [00:07:23] Did he really tell me 115? [00:07:27] Oh, I read it wrong. [00:07:31] No, he said one hour 14. [00:07:34] Okay, I'm a little confused. [00:07:35] I'm going to just do the part where she talks about Destiny. [00:07:38] All right. [00:07:40] He's lying about almost every aspect of that film. [00:07:43] And there are a lot of people who have done breakdowns of it. [00:07:45] But I believe Peterson had interviewed him and promoted it based on trust. [00:07:49] Based on believing that he was a good person as well, without looking into the he said, You are hotter than my ex, Pearl. [00:08:00] I mean, I don't know if he should be bragging about that. [00:08:02] I mean, again, I'm mid, so like your ex is another mid, or she a sub mid. [00:08:07] I mean, it's not, I'm cute, but let's not, you know, real details because he doesn't have time because he has to put out a lot of content because he. [00:08:22] You have to operate on some level of trust with other influencers, or you will be sitting in your room reading court cases all day long and never able to keep up with the algorithm. [00:08:31] So, the reason that this environment existed that I found very damaging and that I was a part of as well exists in symbiosis with the healthier aspects that promoted it and don't have time to look into the details of everything going on there and the scams and the lies and the fake court cases, you know? [00:08:48] Well, I'll admit that I don't know the allegations about Robinson. [00:08:54] I don't know. [00:08:55] I haven't. [00:08:56] And most people don't. [00:08:56] They don't have time to look into the court case. [00:08:58] I haven't spent any time looking into it. [00:09:00] As you say, and there is a symbiosis. [00:09:03] I will readily admit that there's a symbiosis. [00:09:08] I might quibble on some of the details about when Tucker started moving. [00:09:12] I think that the Andrew Tate interview was a huge red flag that Tucker was on a different path than the path people. [00:09:19] And this is, I hate elitists. [00:09:21] They think they're better than everybody. [00:09:23] Like, you have the moral authority to tell people what path we should be. [00:09:27] Who the fuck are you? [00:09:28] Who the fuck are you? [00:09:30] This is why people hate these guys. [00:09:32] Because they sit in their ivory towers. [00:09:34] They think they're smarter than everyone and better than everyone. [00:09:37] Pearl is a three to five max out of six. [00:09:39] I agree. [00:09:39] I would give myself a three, probably a two. [00:09:42] I think that's a little too generous. [00:09:44] It's a little too generous. [00:09:45] Yeah. [00:09:46] You got to go down. [00:09:46] I had thought he was on there to four. [00:09:48] Nevertheless, I'll grant the premise. [00:09:51] Well, look at Joe Rogan. [00:09:52] He just interviewed Andrew Wilson, who I mentioned. [00:09:55] Do you know Andrew Wilson? [00:09:56] I don't know Andrew. [00:09:57] I mean, I know who Andrew Wilson is. [00:09:58] Yeah. [00:09:58] He does the whatever podcast a lot. [00:10:00] You know, he presents himself as kind of this Christian nationalist character and is always women, why you. [00:10:06] You bring nothing to the table, but you're, you know, insert a bad word. [00:10:11] He's very pharisaical in his behavior. [00:10:14] And he's being hosted on some of the largest, most mainstream platforms in the world. [00:10:17] And I'm not saying don't host people, but there's not like the idea that this environment exists on its own that I existed in that's more kind of radical and crazy. [00:10:27] I very much work in symbiosis. [00:10:30] Well, okay, fair enough. [00:10:32] Dennis Prager wouldn't invite Andrew Tate on his show, though, just as an example. [00:10:37] Sure. [00:10:37] I don't think because you guys think you're better than everyone else. [00:10:40] Go yourself. [00:10:42] That's how I feel. [00:10:43] It's like you guys act like you're better than everyone else. [00:10:48] And, you know, people are getting sick of this elitism on the right. [00:10:52] People are getting sick of, you know, these arrogant pricks acting like they're better than the average working man. [00:11:06] Jordan Peterson would invite Andrew Tate on a show, or there would at least come a moment where it would know. [00:11:11] It's incredible how simpy they are. [00:11:13] You would invite Andrew Tate. [00:11:16] Oh, I wouldn't invite Andrew Tate. [00:11:18] But Lauren Southern, who banged half of conservative media, is allowed to go on. [00:11:24] Bruh. [00:11:27] Longer be the case that Jordan Peterson would invite Andrew Tate on a show. [00:11:31] By the time Andrew Tate is a known quantity, and I'm not trying to pick on you. [00:11:37] No, no, please. [00:11:38] I love a harsh, real conversation. [00:11:40] Be real with me. [00:11:42] You've just been on a path that, and this is one of the things that both makes you very interesting as a public figure is that you've gone through the fire and now you're open to criticize, even be self critical of that world, your time in that world. [00:12:03] That's a very interesting thing. [00:12:04] But there's a danger to it too, which I want to get to, which is the sort of Taylor Swift era's version of public life. [00:12:11] Is this the, you know, you went through your transgressive era and then you went through your trad wife era? [00:12:18] Are you now in your redemption era? [00:12:20] And what? [00:12:20] Oh, no. [00:12:21] Okay. [00:12:22] Wait, wait. [00:12:22] Let me, you know what? [00:12:24] This is fair. [00:12:25] I believe there's a. [00:12:27] We were just talking too much about this girl. [00:12:31] This is the simpiest symbiosis. === Deconstructing Public Ideals (11:46) === [00:12:33] But I also believe I have a penchant for chaos and I have an attraction to chaotic, disorganized. [00:12:40] Yeah, because you're a woman. [00:12:42] We all have an attraction to chaos. [00:12:45] Exciting lifestyles as well. [00:12:48] There is a part of me that is a part of that sphere. [00:12:53] And I, you know, whenever you see these articles that come out, I don't agree with the headline like I created the manosphere and I now it destroyed me. [00:13:00] I don't think I was destroyed by the manosphere. [00:13:01] But is there an aspect of me that helped create the very Frankensteins that? [00:13:07] No. [00:13:08] It's just incredible. [00:13:09] You didn't create anything. [00:13:12] One, the manosphere is a feminist term that. [00:13:17] Was created by feminists because they wanted the manosphere to be like a boogeyman, right? [00:13:23] So they wanted to say, oh, the manosphere is toxic. [00:13:25] And then they could label anyone as a part of the manosphere they don't like. [00:13:28] Two, no, you didn't do anything. [00:13:30] You were a hot girl. [00:13:32] You were a hot girl doing political content. [00:13:41] I mean, look, you aren't that important, just like I'm not that important. [00:13:45] Neither of us are that important. [00:13:48] But everyone treats us like we're important because she was hot. [00:13:51] I was mid. [00:13:52] I'm still mid. [00:13:55] Yeah. [00:13:56] Hurt me 100%. [00:13:58] Absolutely. [00:14:01] I think I had a personality that was addicted to transgressiveness, that was addicted to the lifestyle in those spheres, even if I didn't know it at the time. [00:14:11] But yeah, even to this day, there's an aspect of me where I have to be very conscious of the fact that. [00:14:17] I don't make the best decisions. [00:14:20] Like, if I were your older brother, I would say, don't like, don't date Destiny. [00:14:26] Like, that would just be a piece of advice that I'd probably throw on the tape. [00:14:31] Like, probably. [00:14:34] Bruh. [00:14:40] Hopefully, this doesn't go well. [00:14:45] You know, it's funny you say that because that was. [00:14:49] Actually, probably. [00:14:50] I'm going to give her props. [00:14:51] If that hair is real, I'm very jealous of her hair. [00:14:56] One of the healthier relationships I had in the political space. [00:14:59] Yeah, that's not. [00:15:01] Bro, you banged everybody. [00:15:02] Like, I just. [00:15:03] How can you guys say that? [00:15:07] Oh my gosh. [00:15:09] Where do I rate myself with Lauren? [00:15:13] I told you I'm a three. [00:15:15] She's like a seven, I would say, but she's a single mom, so that makes her a six. [00:15:22] So, at least in this, I don't know, maybe in other angles, I wouldn't say that. [00:15:30] Yeah. [00:15:32] That's not a recommendation. [00:15:33] Yeah. [00:15:35] When, like, I mean, you could just build your brand on like politics, not, yeah, I'm an ape. [00:15:47] Go, you guys, that's a simp. [00:15:49] No offense, but it's just like, I'm not that high. [00:15:52] I would say to that is the, I would, and I said this earlier, I would rather be, at least certainly after I had been in this sphere that I felt was so dishonest with the public about who they were, including myself. [00:16:05] It was very refreshing. [00:16:07] To be at a table with someone who is like, yes, I am polyamorous. [00:16:11] Yes, I do drugs. [00:16:13] Yes, I, you know, I partake in all of this quote unquote degenerate behavior than to be at a table with a bunch of people doing the exact same thing, but pretending publicly to be saints, you know? [00:16:26] Because at least I can't deconstruct the world that I was a part of without honesty. [00:16:32] So I couldn't deconstruct it with the people because everyone was lying to themselves. [00:16:36] At least I have a lot more respect for people. [00:16:39] People who can sit there and say, This is who I am, even if the public hate it. [00:16:43] Yeah, this is what I'm gay. [00:16:45] I'm a bisexual, polyamorous guy. [00:16:47] That's it. [00:16:47] I'll get on all the time by the internet for it, but that's just who I am. [00:16:52] Rather than people who are exactly the same, conduct themselves the same way. [00:16:55] But it's actually more dangerous to be friends with people in the right wing media who have all of these proclivities, but don't tell them publicly because as soon as you find out about it, you're now a threat and they have to kind of destroy you and destroy your life. [00:17:08] Whereas if people have their cards on the table and they say, This is who I am, it's a lot safer to have a friendship. [00:17:12] With them, and you can just talk honestly about your failures, and that's what I needed at that time in my life. [00:17:17] I needed someone I could talk honestly about my failures and the struggles I was having. [00:17:21] I didn't believe in the trad life or marriage anymore after my husband left. [00:17:25] You know, um, I see all the rumors online Lauren cheated on her husband with Destiny. [00:17:28] That didn't, yeah, okay. [00:17:33] Why did he leave again? [00:17:35] I'm just tired of this narrative that you know, and the world does not do us a service by telling us we're always the victims, right? [00:17:45] Um I can think of a situation where I did not get what I wanted out of a relationship, right? [00:17:53] And when I was young, you know, it's like, oh, he used you, this blah, But when you really go back and think about things, you're just like, oh, no, I did X, Y, and Z. [00:18:07] I look, I'm not telling you guys all my business, but you guys get the idea. [00:18:11] It's like, you can't just look and say you were some innocent victim in this and, oh, the only thing I did wrong was I picked wrong. [00:18:19] It's like, okay, you were. [00:18:20] Perfect in this? [00:18:22] What did you do that was wrong? [00:18:31] So, happen. [00:18:33] I didn't even meet him until after my marriage had ended. [00:18:35] But we sat, and I remember being completely just how can I believe in the ideals of conservatism without inherently believing that my life is a failure? [00:18:48] Like I'm a single mother now. [00:18:51] How can I not hate myself and still believe in the trad life? [00:18:54] Because no, just say you're a loser. [00:18:56] That's it. [00:18:56] Just say I'm a loser now. [00:18:59] Don't cope. [00:19:00] Don't try to make us think you're not a loser. [00:19:02] Don't pretend you're important. [00:19:04] You're just a loser. [00:19:08] It's all right. [00:19:09] I'm a loser too. [00:19:10] All losers. [00:19:10] I failed at it. [00:19:12] And the idea that maybe I needed to deconstruct some of that was profoundly healing in some ways for me. [00:19:19] But I definitely, like, I certainly concluded that I couldn't be polyamorous, that that was not the lifestyle that I could pursue. [00:19:27] But sitting there and doing drugs with Destiny and talking about how my marriage had fallen apart was profoundly more. [00:19:34] And you ever think about, like, who's watching this lady's kid? [00:19:41] Who's watching the child? [00:19:42] Why are you doing drugs with destiny instead of watching your kid? [00:19:47] Honest than sitting with a bunch of people who are cheating on their wives and telling the internet, you need to be trad and Christ is king. [00:19:54] That was a lot better of a place for me to be. [00:19:58] Not a healthy place to be. [00:20:00] I do need structure, but I feel more comfortable with people who can honestly talk about their failures. [00:20:07] On this idea of people who are cheating on their wives and telling the internet, you need to be. [00:20:12] Brad and Christ is King. [00:20:13] There are two interesting pieces of that, I think. [00:20:16] One of them is I think that for the public man, it's better to say virtuous things than to do virtuous things. [00:20:28] Whereas for the private man, it's better to do virtuous things than to say virtuous things. [00:20:32] Neither is good. [00:20:34] I'm not suggesting that a public man living a hypocritical life is itself virtuous. [00:20:40] It's certainly not. [00:20:42] But it seems obvious to me that if your husband says, I'll be faithful and then cheats. [00:20:49] What he says has no value. [00:20:51] If your pastor says, be faithful, but then cheats, well, men fail, men fall to temptation. [00:20:59] Why do we? [00:21:00] I hate that. [00:21:00] This is why the conservatives, it's like men fall. [00:21:03] You didn't fall to temptation. [00:21:05] You raw dogged that hot young Latina that was eyeing you down while your white wife was being a bitch or vice versa. [00:21:14] Right. [00:21:16] Your Latina wife got fat, and the little blonde girl in church was giving you googly eyes. [00:21:22] You didn't fall. [00:21:24] I mean, there are so many decisions you have to make in order to have sex with someone. [00:21:28] It was a choice, right? [00:21:29] You should drive over there. [00:21:31] You got to get naked. [00:21:33] You got to thrust a bunch of times. [00:21:37] There's so much. [00:21:38] It's not just falling. [00:21:41] You did not just fall. [00:21:43] It's just incredible. [00:21:44] But that's still better than a pastor who says cheat. [00:21:46] Like a pastor who says a perfectly Christian thing to do is to cheat. [00:21:50] Okay, so there's courage in talking about your sins publicly. [00:21:57] There's some sins, guys, I've done, I don't really want to talk about publicly. [00:22:00] You know what I mean? [00:22:01] Because I'm not as courageous, but there's something about a guy who just doesn't give an F. [00:22:06] And, um, You know, like it does take a level of courage for Tate to be like, yes, I cheat on all the women I'm with. [00:22:23] Yes. [00:22:23] You know what I mean? [00:22:25] So there's a kind of, there's a kind of call to hypocrisy that I don't think is necessarily wrong in public life. [00:22:35] That said, there's a difference between, there's a difference between failing. [00:22:43] In the face of temptation and embracing sin while preaching virtue. [00:22:51] And that is now something different. [00:22:53] We're not talking about, I have a lot of grace for people who make mistakes on account of all the mistakes that I make. [00:23:01] You know, it's easy to pick on you for hanging out with Milo. [00:23:05] I hired Candace. [00:23:07] So, like, you know, nobody's batting a thousand here or anything. [00:23:13] But I think that the movement as a whole, conservatism as a whole, particularly. [00:23:18] Today, particularly since it moved online, is so graceless. [00:23:25] I think that a fundamental flaw in even the message of conservatism, not only how we actually behave, but almost the message itself, is that we uphold ideals. [00:23:37] And that's important, especially because the left has been tearing down ideals for our entire life. [00:23:41] Like they've been trying to deconstruct the ideals themselves. [00:23:45] And so we've gotten so used to upholding the ideals that we almost leave no room for anyone who's fallen short of the ideals. [00:23:51] To actually participate anymore. [00:23:53] You know, when we say things like, all you have to do to be successful in America's study after study demonstrates it, you know, graduate high school, get married before you have children, don't do drugs. [00:24:03] Like you do these three things, you're going to make it in America. [00:24:08] And that's true. [00:24:09] And it's important to say that that's true because you're giving people actual important tools with which to govern their lives. [00:24:14] The problem is most people fall short of one, two, or three of those at some point. [00:24:19] And now what? === Reality Filled With Failure (04:28) === [00:24:20] Yes. [00:24:20] And conservatism does a very bad job of saying, now what? [00:24:23] I would say that it's a It is probably an indictment of the conservative movement that you spent so much time in it and knew it so intimately. [00:24:34] That when you. [00:24:35] Like, there's no, you know, there's no scolding her for the disloyalty of getting to know all these people and then spreading their secrets. [00:24:45] You know what I mean? [00:24:46] It's like, guys. [00:24:48] Entered your own period of distress. [00:24:52] You look to someone who is openly polyamorous and openly. [00:24:58] Openly use drugs or whatever. [00:24:59] I'm not trying to just pick on destiny. [00:25:01] He is what he is. [00:25:03] But that you thought that that was a more honest way to deal with what you perceived as your own failures in the face of your own separation. [00:25:11] Why are we doing a therapy set? [00:25:12] No man would be allowed to talk about himself this much. [00:25:15] Okay, let's go to the trad life talking about. [00:25:18] We're going to skip to make selfie videos for the internet and take a shower every day. [00:25:23] That's none. [00:25:24] And their husbands are the CEO of JetBlue. [00:25:26] That's right. [00:25:28] This has never existed. [00:25:29] There is no trad because there is no tradition on which this is. [00:25:33] Based. [00:25:33] It's just a kind of LARPing like the Christian influencers now are doing. [00:25:37] The Christ is King set is doing a kind of LARPing, knowing that all the people who believe that Christ is King will take their side at first. [00:25:45] And it'll take them a long time to realize that, oh, you're not making a statement of affirmation about the primacy of Christ. [00:25:52] You're raising a tribal flag, knowing that people will rally to you who don't know. [00:25:56] Like all of that is, as you say in your wonderful video, all of it's performance art. [00:26:02] And none of it is aimed at making the world better. [00:26:05] The trad movement that failed you isn't the failure of it's that failed you, not that you're a failure. [00:26:11] I would just say, Lauren, you're a loser. [00:26:15] You're a loser. [00:26:20] You tried to be a traditional wife and you failed because you're probably so insufferable that your husband left you. [00:26:27] And that's an L. You just got to eat it. [00:26:28] You know what I mean? [00:26:29] And try to be more or less unbearable next time. [00:26:34] Traditional marriage. [00:26:36] It's the failure of an artificially constructed and artificially promulgated. Mask. [00:26:45] And of course, it failed you. [00:26:46] It isn't real. [00:26:47] It could never have supported you in your marriage because it doesn't exist in the real world. [00:26:53] It exists on Instagram. [00:26:54] That's the only place it is. [00:26:56] But there is something real. [00:26:58] And the real thing is the thing that we're supposed to, you know, if we're in public life, the thing that we should be trying to present to people is reality. [00:27:07] Reality is complex. [00:27:08] Reality is messy. [00:27:09] Reality is filled with failure. [00:27:12] Your life has been filled with enormous accomplishment. [00:27:15] You've done more than Are you 30? [00:27:17] I mean, you've done more than most 30 year olds on planet Earth. [00:27:21] And yet your life is also filled with failure. [00:27:23] You failed yourself. [00:27:24] You failed your values. [00:27:25] You failed your marriage. [00:27:27] Yeah, but it was a real accomplishment. [00:27:29] Like, none of this, my accomplishment's not real. [00:27:32] We got to get rid of our egos as women. [00:27:39] Like, these women think they're better than men. [00:27:42] They think they're more accomplished. [00:27:43] You are not more, Lauren, you're not more accomplished than a plumber. [00:27:47] You're not more accomplished than an electrician. [00:27:50] You're not more accomplished than anybody that works for a living. [00:27:53] You talk on the internet. [00:27:55] We got to stop pretending that we're important at all. [00:28:02] Yeah, it's just pride. [00:28:03] For mechanisms that took place. [00:28:05] Sure, I had my own part. [00:28:06] Yeah, in everything. [00:28:07] You played your own part in it. [00:28:08] But okay, that's not enough. [00:28:10] You got to say, what specifically was your part? [00:28:14] Like, there's one thing to say, oh, I had a part to play, it's another thing to say I was selfish, I was nagging. [00:28:21] I was bitching. [00:28:22] I was inconsiderate. [00:28:23] I was rude and I was controlling. [00:28:27] And that's why they were like, do you see the difference? [00:28:29] Oh, I had a part to play. [00:28:31] No, Like, if you're going to publicly do an hour video bashing your husband, what is your part to play in this? === Living In Show Business (05:40) === [00:28:48] And that's the thing, the simps like him, I don't know what it is. [00:28:52] If they just don't have a logical brain, like sometimes I think simps have the mind of women. [00:29:04] I'm like, or is he just lying? [00:29:09] He's either a liar or he has the mind of a woman. [00:29:11] I don't know which. [00:29:13] But that is reality. [00:29:15] That is who you are. [00:29:17] And it's who every. [00:29:18] I need to start an etiquette school. [00:29:21] Do you know why I had a wife's school a while ago, but everyone just roasted me, even though I wasn't even teaching it. [00:29:29] I just thought it'd be kind of fun to do lessons and, because I didn't know how to cook or anything. [00:29:33] So I was like, oh, I could learn. [00:29:34] And then everyone's just like, you're a modern woman. [00:29:36] And I'm like, I know. [00:29:38] I know. [00:29:38] I'm trying to learn. [00:29:40] But, anyways, we can't win them all. [00:29:45] That would just be too much work. [00:29:46] I would rather be a partner with an etiquette school. [00:29:50] Could do content or something. [00:29:51] But yeah, too much. [00:29:53] Everybody is. [00:29:54] And yeah, we wear masks and yeah, we point cameras at each other. [00:29:57] And yeah, I'm wearing a little makeup right now, right? [00:29:59] Like I, I understand the job. [00:30:02] There, this is, this both is my library of my house and it also isn't the library of my house because if the camera tilts up, you're going to see lights hanging from the ceiling, right? [00:30:10] I like showbiz. [00:30:11] I think showbiz is important, but the thing that we're supposed to model for people is the thing that's real. [00:30:16] And I think that you now in this, in this era, this rebranding, this rebranding, which by the way, you have to be very careful of. [00:30:25] Yeah. [00:30:26] You have to be very careful. [00:30:27] You, I don't know you to know. [00:30:31] Is this Lauren's redemption era? [00:30:34] And will it be followed by your I hate the Jews era and then followed by your astral projecting visions of Charlie Kirk from beyond the grave era, followed by your you make a hundred million dollars a year era? [00:30:46] And yet somehow people think it was still motivated by a desire for truth. [00:30:50] That could happen, but I hope not. [00:30:53] What I hope is that you use this moment that you find yourself in. [00:30:55] And this is what I think Dr. Peterson was trying to tell me in that. [00:30:58] Conversation that we had 16 months ago or so is that you're uniquely positioned right now to help people see that there's grace in the world and to help people see that you can advocate for things that are true and beautiful and good, even though your own life isn't always true and isn't always beautiful and isn't even always good. [00:31:18] Because if God doesn't have the ability to work through broken vessels, then he can't do any work at all. [00:31:24] That's the only vessels that we're offering down here on earth, right? [00:31:27] No, absolutely. [00:31:28] I don't want this to be my redemption era. [00:31:31] Because I don't believe that the cameras or the arc or anything can redeem me. [00:31:36] You know, I think only God can do that. [00:31:38] Right. [00:31:38] So, I this is why I think my new policy is just like, I'm just going to be completely honest. [00:31:43] I can't keep up with the lies and I can't keep up with the audience. [00:31:46] They might hate me. [00:31:46] They might like me if I'm just saying what I. [00:31:49] Yeah. [00:31:49] Lauren is just someone that's a victim of a woman that doesn't have what it takes to be on the internet. [00:31:55] And she just crashed and burned. [00:31:58] And it's just an L, you know, sometimes in life you got to take L's. [00:32:04] Truly believe in what I've truly seen. [00:32:06] That's all I can do, even if it's my own failure. [00:32:10] Have you ever put an image into AI and asked it to remove something from the background, but then the whole image gets a little distorted anyway? [00:32:19] And then you try to fix it, and then it deep fries it more and deep fries it more and deep fries it more. [00:32:24] This is what I kind of feel when you talk about the trad life, it's funny because I created the maze that I got trapped in. [00:32:32] I was 19 doing commentary on that, and I never lived it. [00:32:35] And this is what most commentators are doing. [00:32:37] They're posting about things they haven't lived, and then they're taking that and they're deep. [00:32:41] I actually agree with that. [00:32:42] Crying it more and deep crying it more, deep crying it more until it's unrecognizable from the real world. [00:32:47] And then I went and I followed that path and it led me to destruction. [00:32:51] So, how do we? [00:32:52] I think, like you said, it's the question of how do we live in show business, acknowledging it's show business while reflecting something that's real with people who generally are not living in reality. [00:33:07] I like that. [00:33:08] I like that little rant though. [00:33:09] It was very inspiring, hope inducing. [00:33:11] I'm good for one hope inducing rant per episode. [00:33:13] That's what I appreciate. [00:33:14] No, I appreciate that. [00:33:15] It meant a lot. [00:33:17] Hmm. [00:33:18] Who's doing it right out there? [00:33:20] Who's doing it right out there? [00:33:22] Oh boy. [00:33:23] I hate this question. [00:33:24] I hate this question because people. [00:33:26] I just, I've never seen a woman so not talented. [00:33:30] Always tell me they're like, you're so negative, Lauren. [00:33:32] You say everyone's faking and lying. [00:33:34] And then who are we supposed to, what? [00:33:36] Where my dad always says this to me. [00:33:37] He's like, you, he always does the, God uses broken people. [00:33:41] And I think that's true. [00:33:41] I think God does use broken people. [00:33:43] And I think we have to look for the pieces where people are trying because, like you said, a human life is not a linear. [00:33:49] This is the good guy. [00:33:50] This is the answer the question. [00:33:52] Is it your job, media? [00:33:54] Oh my God. [00:33:55] I think all of us have points in our life where, if we're honest with ourselves, we've been the bad guy in the story. [00:34:02] And you have to look for the people who are and will be again. [00:34:06] And will be again. [00:34:07] Absolutely. [00:34:09] That's why I don't want it to be my redemption arc in two years. [00:34:11] You could find out I'm doing espionage for China or something. [00:34:14] I don't know. [00:34:15] But I think whenever you see people making admissions against their own interest, Do you know what I mean? [00:34:21] That's like one of the few times you know someone's telling the truth. [00:34:24] It's like their audience are canceling them hardcore. [00:34:26] They've lost money. [00:34:27] They've lost a contract. === Broken People And God (15:54) === [00:34:29] They've lost something to say something true. [00:34:31] I mean, that is the quintessential message of Christ. [00:34:33] Like, we, to heal the world, he had to sacrifice himself. [00:34:37] And that's what, because everyone is always making selfish decisions, ourselves included, it's like to repair that damage, we have to make unselfish decisions in which we are going to be treated unfairly, in which we are going to have to make a sacrifice to do some healing. [00:34:50] So, whenever people are making admissions against interest, I would. [00:34:53] Really look at that and focus on that. [00:34:55] When is someone because there's no incentive to say I'm wrong on the internet? [00:34:59] There's no incentive. [00:35:00] All you get is you get eaten by sharks because they smell blood in the water, whatever the left or right, if they hate you. [00:35:06] And then your own side says, Well, you've betrayed us. [00:35:08] You've betrayed us. [00:35:09] You're not staying, you're not walking the line, right? [00:35:11] So, whenever someone is kind of getting what happens, women are conservative when they feel like it and when it benefits them. [00:35:17] So, when it benefited her, she was conservative. [00:35:19] That's why I say there's no such thing as a traditional or conservative woman in 2026. [00:35:24] As soon as it no longer benefited her, now she's a more centrist, leftist. [00:35:30] Eaten by everyone. [00:35:31] I'd go and I'd take a look at what they're saying and really listen. [00:35:35] What are your politics like today? [00:35:38] That's the tough part coming back into talking again, I'm more interested in critiquing the way that the political world works because I am so uncertain. [00:35:47] I'm more uncertain today than I've ever been about my political positions because I always find reality in contradiction. [00:35:55] To what I believe. [00:35:56] One funny experience I had is I play a lot of community volleyball now. [00:35:59] It's been really good for me to connect the reality again. [00:36:01] Community volleyball in Canada. [00:36:02] Community volleyball in Canada. [00:36:04] Dude, it's so crazy. [00:36:05] This woman tells us to touch grass. [00:36:09] And it's like, it's like the most online people ever tell us to touch grass. [00:36:13] It's like, bitch, you touch grass. [00:36:16] You know what I mean? [00:36:18] And one of the girls said, let's do a boys versus girls game. [00:36:22] And I still have this like tick where I spent so much time in media that I'm like, Yeah. [00:36:27] As if we boys versus girls, like as if that's going to work, like we're going to get wrecked. [00:36:31] And this girl looks at me like I'm crazy. [00:36:33] She's like, what? [00:36:34] Why not? [00:36:35] And then I think she's just like a SJW or something and she's being woke. [00:36:39] And I'm like, obviously, because we have a different biology, we're going to get wrecked. [00:36:43] But then the next round of volleyball, we go around and I kind of watch the girls and the boys play. [00:36:47] And I realized like the girls could totally beat the boys in this round just because the guys are constantly swinging into the net. [00:36:52] They hit too hard. [00:36:52] They hit out. [00:36:53] The girls are really focused. [00:36:54] They're tipping well. [00:36:55] They're getting the right positions. [00:36:57] And I'm like, oh my gosh, she's not looking at me like I'm crazy because she's some left wing political radical. [00:37:02] She's looking at me like I'm crazy because I am. [00:37:05] I am the one imposing culture war gobbledygook nonsense onto a community volleyball game. [00:37:10] That is not an Olympic match. [00:37:11] That's true. [00:37:12] Like, people do get weird when they're online too much. [00:37:16] But it's just incredible. [00:37:18] It's just incredible how out of touch we can be and still have a platform. [00:37:23] Like, it's just crazy how delusional we can be and still have a platform. [00:37:28] No man could be this delusional and still have a job. [00:37:32] Like, it just would not happen. [00:37:34] Olympic match of Olympic players. [00:37:35] These are just average people. [00:37:37] And the girls in this situation could beat the boys. [00:37:39] But because I'm taking this. [00:37:41] Culture war, you know, box and placing it onto everyday life. [00:37:46] I look like an insane person because I'm not just assessing the situation for what it is. [00:37:50] And real life situations do not fall into culture war boxes, they don't. [00:37:55] And you will look unhinged if you try to make them. [00:37:58] Did you win? [00:37:59] Did we win? [00:38:01] I can't remember. [00:38:02] I can't remember. [00:38:03] I know the girls have absolutely beat the boys before in games. [00:38:05] Yes, they brutally mocked us. [00:38:09] Culture. [00:38:10] No, okay. [00:38:11] This is such cap. [00:38:11] This is cap. [00:38:12] But I look at. [00:38:14] Here's my experience, okay, which mocks her experience. [00:38:18] Three years of playing overseas. [00:38:21] I played volleyball since I was 10. [00:38:23] I'm 29. [00:38:24] 19 years of volleyball experience. [00:38:28] Unathletic guys could be professional women. [00:38:31] I've played with both. [00:38:33] I prefer almost pro level athletes playing with rather than athletic guys. [00:38:40] I don't know what the hell she's talking about. [00:38:44] Occasionally, right? [00:38:46] Maybe. [00:38:47] If the guys are really, really bad, but like if they've been playing for a few months, you are literally gonna lose. [00:38:53] And if you win, uh, it's probably because they're being nice and taking it easy on you, they're not gonna like play with full force, they love us too much, they can't do that. [00:39:07] So, my opinion trumps your opinion. [00:39:08] Sorry, volleyball mogged war wins again, culture war wins every time. [00:39:14] What do you hope you're remembered for? [00:39:18] What do I hope I'm remembered for? [00:39:21] Oh my goodness. [00:39:23] You know, I guess it is a good thing to think about that. [00:39:27] It is a good thing. [00:39:28] You know, women, we got to learn to take pauses. [00:39:30] She should have just been silent, thought a little bit. [00:39:37] Answer. [00:39:39] What do I hope I'm remembered for? [00:39:42] I hope I'm remembered for. [00:39:49] I don't even like that question. [00:39:51] I think that's too egotistical of a question. [00:39:55] I mean, I don't care if I'm remembered or not remembered. [00:40:00] You know what I mean? [00:40:00] You can't, that's just wanting something out of other people. [00:40:07] I'm in my Zen era. [00:40:13] Good thing to think about that. [00:40:15] But I don't know that the best people in history are ever remembered. [00:40:19] By the masses, you know, I like to think more about how I'll be remembered. [00:40:23] By my, are you trying to say that you are one of the best people in history? [00:40:27] You bang destiny, you bang destiny. [00:40:32] Like, oh my God. [00:40:34] It's just, this is so incredibly out of touch. [00:40:39] Oh my God. [00:40:42] Oh my God. [00:40:46] That was the worst implication. [00:40:51] Now, look, I'm not trying to be judgmental, you know. [00:40:55] A lot of women aren't, you know. [00:40:56] I think if there was a list of every guy, like, women have banged, like, out there, I think, you know, all of us would be hided. [00:41:06] We would go into like, we would go underground, you know what I mean? [00:41:11] But it's like, what have you done for humanity at this point? [00:41:19] I guess you were part of a movement which you disagree with now. [00:41:23] Eh. [00:41:25] You banged a gay guy. [00:41:28] That's an L. [00:41:30] I mean, honestly, you could have, I think that, you know, banging an ugly dude. [00:41:35] Like a gay guy, like that's just a different because you're pointing, you might have AIDS at this point. [00:41:41] You might for real have AIDS. [00:41:42] So, yeah, I mean, I just that insinuation was insulting. [00:41:52] You haven't had a career that contributed much to society. [00:41:55] You're a single mom, so you're going to destroy your kids' life. [00:41:59] You might have AIDS, so we don't know how long you'll be here. [00:42:02] This is just an L. Son, how I'll be remembered by the people in my life that I love and I knew day to day. [00:42:09] I think that after I've seen the botched jobs the internet will do on people's reputations, I'm much less concerned about my public perception and wherever I end up in the history books, probably a footnote somewhere on the culture wars of 2010. [00:42:25] That's less important to me than my son remembering me as a good mom, as my friends remembering me as someone who loved. [00:42:32] Look, you can't be a good mother without a father. [00:42:34] Sorry, I don't care. [00:42:38] There's just too much, especially if you have a son. [00:42:41] Look, We are all chaotic, all of us, all women. [00:42:47] It doesn't matter who you are. [00:42:49] And there's a level of routine and order men will bring that young men crave, right? [00:42:56] Young men like they need that. [00:42:59] My friend of mine teaches young men and he loves mentoring them. [00:43:03] And he'll talk about how much they miss having a father figure and how it just. [00:43:12] And how overbearing all the mothers are. [00:43:14] So, yeah, your son is cooked. [00:43:18] You should just give him to the dad, in all honesty. [00:43:21] Like, you obviously want to whore out because you said you were. [00:43:24] Okay, so you said, I'm just getting this timeline straight. [00:43:27] You got divorced, according to you, and then you did drugs and banged Destiny. [00:43:32] And apparently you took your kid with. [00:43:35] So, can we just keep it a buck? [00:43:36] You were banging Destiny and doing drugs, and someone else was watching your kids. [00:43:41] Does that sound like a stellar mother? [00:43:44] I mean, can we just keep it real? [00:43:46] Like, that has to at least be a C. [00:43:51] That has to at least be, like, this is by your own admission. [00:43:56] That cannot be a high ranking. [00:43:59] All right. [00:43:59] So your son's cooked. [00:44:02] You're just cooked, and it's okay. [00:44:05] Maybe you'll figure it out. [00:44:06] Probably not. [00:44:08] This lack of humility coming back and this gaslighting indicates to me that you are going to be a walking L forever. [00:44:17] But I mean, obviously, you want to whore out a bit. [00:44:20] So I think you should just give your kid to the dad and be the whore you are, right? [00:44:24] Women, a lot of women are happier as whores. [00:44:27] A lot of women prefer whoredom to being with a guy. [00:44:30] And that's obviously you, right? [00:44:32] And I'm not judging you. [00:44:33] There's a need. [00:44:34] There's a lot of sexless men out there. [00:44:35] There's a need for whores. [00:44:37] So give the kid to the dad and then go a whore out. [00:44:42] Maybe not Destiny next time. [00:44:44] We can shoot a little higher, Lauren. [00:44:47] We can shoot like slightly higher than that. [00:44:49] So, you know. [00:44:52] Yeah, just good to the people around me. [00:44:54] And I'm not always, but I hope to become better. [00:44:59] I strive for that. [00:45:01] You said at the beginning, Of the conversation that you don't know if you would call yourself a Christian now. [00:45:07] And understanding everything that you've mentioned here, understanding that online Christianity is largely performative, understanding that you never really know what's going on with someone with their own walk, with their own spirituality, with their relationship with God, understanding that politics has become incredibly tribal and that people are picking sides and taking sides, you know. [00:45:36] I think you referenced in your video a photo of you, you know, a decade ago wearing a Dave's fault hoodie or something. [00:45:43] And yeah. [00:45:46] And so, yeah, I understand all of that. [00:45:50] At the same time, I'd be curious what's between you right now and Christ. [00:45:56] Like, what prevents you from embracing, you know, the grace that's been offered? [00:46:05] Oh my gosh. [00:46:06] This, do you see the? [00:46:08] Now, the conservative men are going to try to get the whores in church so she can give herpes to all the young men in church. [00:46:16] It's just like a never ending cycle. [00:46:19] It's a never ending cycle. [00:46:22] Why would you do that? [00:46:24] Why would you? [00:46:24] Now we got to get her in church. [00:46:26] Save these poor, innocent young men. [00:46:30] Okay. [00:46:33] Okay. [00:46:35] My own vision of my life and the direction I want to go and the direction God wants to take me, I think. [00:46:42] You know, it's always in a constant battle. [00:46:46] I, yeah, the direction she's like, if I accept Christ, I got to stop fucking. [00:46:54] She's not doing that. [00:46:55] I mean, with those looks, I mean, can we just keep it a buck? [00:46:59] A lot of men are going to risk STDs for that. [00:47:01] Let's just keep it a buck. [00:47:02] She's conventionally attractive. [00:47:04] This is an attractive woman. [00:47:05] All right. [00:47:07] A lot of guys are just, yeah, they're going to still do it. [00:47:10] They're going to do it. [00:47:10] And she's not going to give that up. [00:47:12] So, and she's a little uglier, maybe. [00:47:14] I mean, she's chopped, you know, compared to where she was when she was younger. [00:47:18] Cause when she was younger, that girl was very, very attractive. [00:47:24] Now she's like a step, a point and a half lower. [00:47:28] But still, that's too much beauty to give to God. [00:47:35] You know, women only give beauty to God when they really, really have to. [00:47:40] Like, there's, she doesn't have, she banged Destiny, but there's no porn on the internet, you know? [00:47:46] So, I mean, that's going to give her a few extra years before she runs. [00:47:51] I look at scriptures sometimes and I say, my desires and my wants don't line up with this. [00:48:00] And what I think might lead to a healthier, better life doesn't necessarily line up with this. [00:48:06] And then I pray and I sit with God. [00:48:09] And I think it's the pride and ego probably that I struggle with a bit sometimes. [00:48:18] I think I'm self aware of it and I fight it. [00:48:21] And I do have moments where I do follow what I truly believe to be right and God. [00:48:26] This was her young, you see. [00:48:27] Look at that, full of life, just ready to gluck, gluck 9,000, you know, before death, you know. [00:48:36] No. [00:48:37] So she fell, but, you know, she's still decent looking. [00:48:39] And I also have so many moments where I don't, and I make my own decisions and I take the reins and take myself in disastrous directions. [00:48:46] And it's always this back and forth. [00:48:49] It sounds to me like what you're describing is a Christian. [00:48:54] Yeah, I know. [00:48:55] You could say that, but I don't want to disappoint anyone. [00:48:59] I don't want to disappoint people by saying, Hey, look at me. [00:49:02] Hey, look at my life. [00:49:03] I am a representative of a good Christian. [00:49:05] And then have them look at my life and go, I don't want to be a Christian. [00:49:09] Look at her. [00:49:12] You know, it came up. [00:49:13] Oh, no. [00:49:14] He's going to say, Come to church anyway. [00:49:17] Oh, my God. [00:49:19] Why are you a gluttony for punishment? [00:49:22] Oh, my. [00:49:23] Do these guys just have different brains? [00:49:25] I think, like, I think these men, their brains are like women's brains. [00:49:30] I don't know. [00:49:30] Like, sometimes I think there's transgender men. [00:49:33] I know, I know that's like you're not supposed to say that as conservative, but it just seems like they think like women or they've trained themselves to think like women. [00:49:45] And only a woman would want someone that did zero work in being a Christian to enter the church. [00:49:54] Like, no work, but here's the title dunk your head in water. [00:49:58] That's a woman thing. [00:50:00] So, in my, um, In my comments this last week, that, and it was in, it was, it was by a friend online who was reacting to something that I said along the lines of what I said to you earlier about it's better for a public man to, to advocate virtue than to, than to actually be personally virtuous. [00:50:20] Not better in the sense of sin. === Virtue Versus Moral Failure (03:28) === [00:50:23] There's not a distinction in terms of the sinfulness of the two things or, but in, in practical efficacy, you'd much rather have a preacher who cheated on his wife than a preacher who told the congregation to cheat. [00:50:34] And one of the things that they said in response to this was, well, I don't know. [00:50:38] The preacher who tells the people to cheat, at least we can avoid them. [00:50:41] Whereas when you find out that your preacher cheated, it destroys, it can destroy your faith. [00:50:48] Nothing I'm saying is meant to advocate for the pastor cheating on his wife or to say that that isn't destructive, which of course it's hugely, hugely destructive. [00:50:55] But it's always sort of bothered me this putting our faith in men business. [00:51:03] You know, one of the pastors who most impacted my own. [00:51:08] Sort of theological view of the gospel. [00:51:13] Late in life, I had a massive moral failure and a very public moral failure. [00:51:21] And I watched some people sort of react to the pain and the shock of that event. [00:51:31] But I didn't feel any pain or shock. [00:51:34] I felt sorry, sorry for him, sorry for his wife, sorry. [00:51:40] Even sorry for the humiliation he was enduring, you know, which like this is one problem with public life is, you know, you know, this better than most, you know, divorce is very prevalent. [00:51:53] You went through it in front of people, and going through it in front of people doesn't make divorce worse. [00:51:57] Divorce is just bad. [00:51:59] But you got to go through the shame of it, the humiliation of it, because it was public. [00:52:03] And so I hated that for him. [00:52:06] But it didn't impact my faith in any way because, or my theology, because my theology is sort of premised on the idea that. [00:52:13] God doesn't recommend us. [00:52:14] He recommends himself that great men fail, that all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, as we've said before today. [00:52:24] I'm never surprised to discover that no one is a good example of what it means to be a good Christian. [00:52:31] And so I only offer that to you as a marketing to get her ass in church so she can bang all the young guys. [00:52:39] Somebody's got to do it. [00:52:40] I mean, I think the church on some level understands there's a sexlessness problem. [00:52:45] And they just need some whores to at least give them the illusion of putting it. [00:52:52] Obviously, like the whores aren't really going to put it out because here's the thing about whores they cannot put out to lame ninjas. [00:52:59] They cannot, like, once they've had a real ninja, like, if anything, an innocent woman is more likely to put out with a lame ninja because she's never had a real ninja. [00:53:11] But once a whore has had a bunch of real ninjas, she can't go to lame ninjas. [00:53:17] Without making his life a living hell and not putting out, you know. [00:53:22] So, anyways, go to church. [00:53:25] They deserve you, Lauren. [00:53:28] I think that you'll be really happy there. [00:53:31] So, anyways, that's all I got today. [00:53:33] I'm going to see if there's anything on Twitter that I need to go over. [00:53:40] No, I don't think so. [00:53:41] I think we went over these yesterday. [00:53:44] That's all I got. [00:53:45] Thank you guys for watching. [00:53:48] I appreciate you. 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