Pearly Things - Pearl Davis - Could Lauren Southern Be Redeemed? | Just Take The L
Aired: 2026-04-15
Duration: 01:55:10


=== How to Take an L Gracefully (02:30) ===

[00:00:16]  Southern, why can't you just take the L?
[00:00:23]  Why can't you look at us and just say, oh well?
[00:00:31]  Yeah, we know now you're a loser.
[00:00:35]  We know that's kind of a doozer.
[00:00:39]  You used to be really, really hot, and now you're mid with a kid and a thought.
[00:00:46]  Take the L, take the L. Just look at us and say, Oh, well, take the L, take the L. Just look at us and say, Oh, well, take the L.
[00:01:14]  Look at us and say, Oh, well, take the L, take the L. Just look at us and say, Oh, well, STDs, that's an L baby.
[00:01:36]  To knell too.
[00:01:40]  But don't worry, my gal.
[00:01:44]  Somebody's gonna do it, I swear.
[00:01:47]  So take the L, take the L. Just look at us and say, oh well.
[00:01:54]  Take the L, take the L. Just look at us and say, oh well.
[00:02:11]  But not for you.
[00:02:15]  By banging Andrew Tate, that kinda ended your career on YouTube.
[00:02:22]  You banged too many men with microphones.
[00:02:26]  Maybe you should have stayed at home alone.
[00:02:29]  Take the L, take the L. Just look at us and say, oh well, take the L, take the L, take the L. What up, guys?

=== Filming the Divorce Documentary (03:48) ===

[00:02:46]  Hold on, hold on.
[00:02:48]  Let me change cameras.
[00:02:50]  It's a one man show here.
[00:02:52]  You know what I mean?
[00:02:52]  Let me change.
[00:02:54]  Hello, everybody.
[00:02:57]  Hello.
[00:02:58]  Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily here on the Audacity Network.
[00:03:01]  I'm sorry I'm late today.
[00:03:02]  Someone was supposed to come to fix my AC, and nobody came.
[00:03:07]  So I guess I'll just keep sweating.
[00:03:08]  You know what I mean?
[00:03:10]  I was like, well, that's an L. Do you see it, Lauren?
[00:03:13]  Lauren, you could learn.
[00:03:14]  You could learn from this, okay?
[00:03:16]  This is how you take an L gracefully.
[00:03:18]  You say, oh, well.
[00:03:24]  You say, oh well.
[00:03:25]  And that, you know, that's just life.
[00:03:28]  So today we're going to talk about Lauren Southern, and I'm going to get into the topic, but I do have a few announcements.
[00:03:33]  I'm the first.
[00:03:34]  If you want to donate to the show, there's a GoFundMe link in the description, and you guys are welcome to donate there.
[00:03:41]  It goes to our divorce documentary, which we are in the full swing of producing.
[00:03:45]  If you guys know any good guests, you can email doug at theaudacitynetwork.com.
[00:03:52]  At the end of the month, we are filming.
[00:03:54]  We are probably going to be done with 80 to 90% of filming by the end of the month.
[00:03:58]  So, thank you guys for supporting me through demonetization.
[00:04:02]  This put this documentary on hold.
[00:04:04]  That was an L, right?
[00:04:06]  That was an L that I took.
[00:04:10]  And I, you know, I ate that.
[00:04:12]  That's something I had to eat.
[00:04:14]  So, now we're back.
[00:04:19]  Now we are back.
[00:04:21]  Now we're back.
[00:04:21]  And I told you guys as soon as I started making money again, the divorce documentary was the first thing I was doing.
[00:04:27]  I told you guys.
[00:04:29]  Now, there were a few things I had to do first, right?
[00:04:34]  I had to move out of my parents' house.
[00:04:37]  I had to, you know, I had to get a place to stay, you know, so maybe it wasn't very far, but it was up there.
[00:04:42]  It was like one of the first projects as soon as I was, you know, off of my feet.
[00:04:58]  Other announcements.
[00:05:00]  I told you guys.
[00:05:01]  So after we're done filming for the documentary, my schedule is going to be a lot more stable, meaning I have the opportunity to have actual show days and times.
[00:05:13]  It's been a little sporadic because I just have had some other stuff I've been working on.
[00:05:19]  So, and the divorce documentary, it's like if I'm gone for four days, it throws, I don't want to promise you guys a showtime and then like ruin it the next week.
[00:05:27]  Do you know what I mean?
[00:05:31]  So, we are toying with Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, actually.
[00:05:35]  I wanted to do Monday, Wednesday, Friday, but do you know what it is?
[00:05:39]  It's Mondays.
[00:05:41]  I really like doing my reactions on Mondays.
[00:05:44]  So, like the reactions for the week, Monday, Sunday.
[00:05:51]  So, that would leave me Tuesday.
[00:05:56]  It could be Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday.
[00:05:59]  Anyways, I'm open to suggestions.
[00:06:01]  I kind of like this time because I feel like you guys can get off work.
[00:06:06]  Um, I guess you could do later, but it just seems like Kevin Samuels used to do like nine o'clock at night.
[00:06:13]  But I don't know, I don't really want to be up all night again.
[00:06:17]  I'm sorry, guys.
[00:06:18]  I kind of like I'm becoming an early bird.
[00:06:23]  So, anyways, so days, you guys seem to like the Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday thing.
[00:06:30]  So, I was like, hey, screw it, maybe we will.

=== Redemption for a Psycho Bitch (15:16) ===

[00:06:35]  Hold on, hold on.
[00:06:38]  Okay.
[00:06:39]  All right.
[00:06:40]  So today we're going to do the topic.
[00:06:42]  Today, this is actually my empathy stream towards Lauren Southern.
[00:06:47]  So on this show, I really do try to articulate that just because women were big, fat whores, it doesn't mean we're bad people, right?
[00:06:56]  We all whore out a little bit.
[00:06:58]  I mean, and to the women that say not all women are like that, what women, we're not whores.
[00:07:03]  It's like, okay, have you been with one man for life?
[00:07:06]  No.
[00:07:08]  You've had multiple bodies.
[00:07:09]  Okay, humble yourself.
[00:07:10]  Oh, but I've had less than five bodies.
[00:07:13]  Oh, wow.
[00:07:14]  You've had a basketball team full of bodies.
[00:07:18]  That's so good.
[00:07:19]  You, ma'am, are pure.
[00:07:22]  You're pure.
[00:07:22]  Oh, you only had one full body or two full bodies, and then you gluck glucked and got finger black.
[00:07:28]  Do you know what I mean?
[00:07:29]  It's like, you, ma'am, are so pure.
[00:07:33]  You know what I mean?
[00:07:34]  Humble yourself.
[00:07:35]  We got to stay humble here.
[00:07:38]  As women, we just got to know we ain't really shit.
[00:07:40]  And that's okay.
[00:07:41]  You know, sometimes in life you suck, you know, and that's called eating the L.
[00:07:51]  So, this is my empathy stream towards Lauren Southern.
[00:07:54]  Lauren, you are a psycho bitch, but I understand why you're acting the way that you're acting.
[00:08:00]  And I'm actually one of the few women that's going to be honest with you.
[00:08:03]  So, this stream is directly meant for Lauren Southern.
[00:08:08]  This is meant for you to watch this, okay?
[00:08:13]  And this is in light of her stupid article.
[00:08:16]  Okay.
[00:08:16]  Lauren Southern put out an article talking about how she built the manosphere and how it destroyed her.
[00:08:25]  So, one, this is a couple of things.
[00:08:27]  A woman taking credit for something she didn't do.
[00:08:29]  You built the manosphere, really?
[00:08:33]  Do you even know what the manosphere is?
[00:08:36]  I mean, do you know what?
[00:08:38]  Like, it's just you built the man.
[00:08:41]  Like, women just take credit for everything.
[00:08:43]  I built, like, do you see how stupid?
[00:08:45]  And Lauren, look at nobody's going to tell you how stupid you sound because you're too pretty, right?
[00:08:50]  I'm an ugly bitch.
[00:08:51]  You know, I'm a mid uggo, right?
[00:08:54]  So, men are not that honest because I'm not fat yet.
[00:09:00]  Right.
[00:09:00]  But men are somewhat honest with me because I'm just not that hot.
[00:09:04]  Right.
[00:09:04]  I've never been like a Stacy level, you know.
[00:09:09]  So at least the Chads are honest with me.
[00:09:12]  Guys that can do better, which is most men, you know, they're honest.
[00:09:20]  And I'm not fishing for compliments, I'm really not.
[00:09:23]  But you're just too hot for anybody in the world to be honest with you.
[00:09:28]  And people are kind of afraid of you.
[00:09:31]  The reason people are afraid of you is because whenever things don't go your way, you do this.
[00:09:38]  And so nobody's going to tell you how incredibly stupid you sound.
[00:09:45]  Okay.
[00:09:45]  Back in the day, she was like an eight.
[00:09:53]  So, we will read your stupid article.
[00:09:55]  Okay.
[00:09:55]  We will read it, but we're going to read it at the end of the stream.
[00:10:00]  Lauren, you are a psycho bitch, but I understand you.
[00:10:03]  So, Lauren Southern had the world at her fingertips.
[00:10:07]  So, for those of you that don't know, Lauren Southern is one of the original right wing e girls.
[00:10:11]  She was an 18 year old blonde e girl who became the face of right wing conservatism overnight.
[00:10:18]  Now, again, she's going to think that she built the manosphere or the right wing.
[00:10:25]  Again, because she thinks she knows things, even though really she was only famous because she was hot.
[00:10:30]  I mean, Lauren, let's just keep it a buck.
[00:10:32]  If you were ugly, you would not, there's no way they would give a girl to be the face of rebel news if you were an ugly, an uggo, right?
[00:10:42]  You'd at least have to be a strong mid like Brett Cooper.
[00:10:46]  So she did debates on feminism.
[00:10:48]  She went to events.
[00:10:49]  But blue pill conditioning doesn't just affect men, it also affects women.
[00:10:54]  She was the face of rebel media overnight.
[00:10:56]  And how many qualified men?
[00:10:58]  Were passed over for the opportunity that Lauren Southern got.
[00:11:02]  And in her head, she worked hard and deserved it.
[00:11:04]  And I can really relate to this.
[00:11:06]  Throughout this monologue, I will bring in my personal anecdotes that I can relate to, right?
[00:11:12]  Because I'm a woman and I will make this about me.
[00:11:13]  I will.
[00:11:14]  I will.
[00:11:14]  I'm going to do it.
[00:11:15]  I don't care.
[00:11:16]  I don't care.
[00:11:17]  Shoot me.
[00:11:18]  Whatever.
[00:11:18]  Don't care.
[00:11:19]  So, you know, I had a similar experience.
[00:11:23]  You know, I went into sales and I was a 22 year old sales guy.
[00:11:27]  I sold copiers.
[00:11:29]  And the company gave me special training and also gave me the best territory at that company.
[00:11:42]  And I at the time thought it was because I worked hard because in my life, you know, I did work hard.
[00:11:49]  Like I was the worst girl on a volleyball team and I went to the best.
[00:11:54]  And my dad, you know, my dad always told me I worked hard and I did, but I worked hard for a woman because, again, we're in a special Olympic league.
[00:12:01]  We're in a league that's like, D3, D2.
[00:12:04]  Do you know what I mean?
[00:12:05]  Like men are D1 athletes, we're D3 athletes, and you can work hard in D3, but you're still in Division 3.
[00:12:10]  And that's really what I would equate to Lauren Southern.
[00:12:13]  All women in media, it's really like this.
[00:12:17]  So can you really blame her for getting a big ego?
[00:12:21]  All of her life outcomes would show that she is better than everybody else.
[00:12:26]  I mean, if you're 18 and you are famous, right, and you are making a lot of money, and everybody everywhere you go is telling you you're awesome.
[00:12:36]  Why would you not think you were awesome?
[00:12:46]  Do you know what I mean?
[00:12:52]  So, Lauren, it's not your fault you're this crazy and delusional.
[00:12:56]  It's really not.
[00:12:59]  Maybe we could say you're not the most intelligent for believing it, but let's be honest.
[00:13:04]  I mean, if a man turned 18 and he got the life outcomes you got, he'd probably think he was pretty awesome too.
[00:13:13]  And that's why people hate celebrities, right?
[00:13:15]  Because it's just people that are famous for their looks and their charisma, not necessarily a skill.
[00:13:22]  And they don't realize how unimportant their jobs are because everyone tells us they're important.
[00:13:27]  All the time, right?
[00:13:29]  And you guys, you know, middle class men go, or even middle class, some middle class women that are fat go to work and they're told they ain't shit every day.
[00:13:39]  They're said, why didn't you do that or that?
[00:13:41]  They get chewed out, spit out, and fired if they don't do their job.
[00:13:45]  Conservatives, it's not really like that, or media personalities.
[00:13:48]  It's just like a bubble.
[00:13:51]  It's a bubble, right?
[00:13:57]  So she was given a job she doesn't deserve.
[00:14:00]  And women are told they're right 247.
[00:14:03]  She was on top of the world.
[00:14:06]  However, she made a grave mistake.
[00:14:09]  Now, Lauren Southern could have banged anybody.
[00:14:12]  She really was on top of the world, very hot.
[00:14:15]  I am sure she had all types of ninjas in her DMs, right?
[00:14:26]  She could have banged men, option A, men that have something to lose also.
[00:14:32]  She could have banged some married congressmen.
[00:14:35]  Although I guess maybe not because they always have people trying to expose them.
[00:14:44]  But she could have banged conservative guys with stuff to lose, right?
[00:14:49]  They're not trying to be like Elijah Schaefer.
[00:14:52]  No, he was too loud.
[00:14:54]  But she could have banged men with a reputation for being quiet.
[00:15:00]  But instead, she banged men with microphones.
[00:15:04]  She banged, allegedly, a long list of men in media that have a history of running their mouths.
[00:15:12]  You know, like Destiny.
[00:15:13]  I mean, that's just an L all together.
[00:15:15]  You are way too.
[00:15:16]  I mean, that's just incredible.
[00:15:21]  Destiny has a history of, you know, having his business everywhere.
[00:15:25]  And she thought, let me bang him too.
[00:15:27]  Idiot.
[00:15:28]  Tate, you know, I mean.
[00:15:31]  Cool guy.
[00:15:32]  I respect him.
[00:15:34]  However, he does brag about the girls he bangs.
[00:15:37]  You know, Michaela Peterson is never going to live that down.
[00:15:44]  So, her story is a tale as old as time.
[00:15:46]  She goes into an industry where she is elevated immediately for her looks.
[00:15:54]  Banged too many men with microphones, gets the reputation of a 304.
[00:15:58]  Found a husband anyway because she's hot.
[00:16:00]  But could not leave the e girl behind because it's fun, right?
[00:16:05]  I love doing this.
[00:16:05]  I mean, I'm having a great time.
[00:16:13]  I'm not here to demonize you, Lauren.
[00:16:15]  Sex is fun.
[00:16:16]  Being an e girl is fun.
[00:16:17]  It's a fun time.
[00:16:19]  We can just say that, you know.
[00:16:21]  Hey, I didn't realize how much fun Gluck Gluck 9000 was when I started talking all that shit.
[00:16:30]  I Gluck Gluck 9000 a little too hard.
[00:16:34]  There you go, Warren.
[00:16:37]  So now, you know, she's kind of trapped into a corner because what happens with right wing e girls is conservative men tend to put us on a pedestal.
[00:16:47]  And then become disappointed we don't live up to their expectations, which we're women.
[00:16:51]  I don't know what it, what did you expect, you know?
[00:17:01]  And look, Lauren, a lot of these men, they're Rizmasters.
[00:17:04]  They got microphones.
[00:17:06]  I understand it.
[00:17:09]  And Lauren, she's not accepting the truth about herself, which is that she'd rather do anything else than watch that kid.
[00:17:16]  She tried to go be a trad wife and then called her husband an abuser.
[00:17:20]  She, uh, You know, she bangs, like it's just, you know, Lauren, you're 304.
[00:17:25]  Let it go.
[00:17:26]  Take the L.
[00:17:29]  So I'm not even trying to demonize because she's an adult who she bangs, not my problem.
[00:17:37]  I don't think it makes you a bad person to be a whore.
[00:17:40]  I really don't.
[00:17:43]  I've met women that are way less pleasant that are supposedly virgins, but they're uptight, unpleasant, and bitches.
[00:17:53]  And sometimes you meet a 304 and they're so chill.
[00:17:56]  It's like they're way more pleasant to talk to at times, not always, right?
[00:18:01]  So, what you do in your personal time doesn't affect me, not my problem.
[00:18:06]  But what's making you a bad person is your inability to take it out.
[00:18:12]  The stealing your kid, falsely accusing everyone of rape, and making articles painting you as the victim and demonizing everyone around you, even though you've lived a better life.
[00:18:27]  Than 99% of people in all of history.
[00:18:35]  So, what can we learn from Lauren Southern?
[00:18:40]  Number one, you got to stop thinking you're above statistics.
[00:18:43]  We're all more likely than not going to be single parents if we have kids at all.
[00:18:48]  If you find a love that lasts a lifetime, that is great.
[00:18:51]  But again, most people are going to be statistics.
[00:18:54]  If you get married, it's between two to 10 year subscription.
[00:18:59]  That's really what you're signing up for.
[00:19:01]  It's performative, it doesn't really mean anything anymore.
[00:19:05]  It's just to show status to other people.
[00:19:08]  A lot of people hate me for saying this.
[00:19:11]  They, you know, even me and Doug MPA go back and forth on this.
[00:19:17]  But I just can't unsee it.
[00:19:19]  Marriage is a 10 year subscription to signal high status.
[00:19:24]  It doesn't really mean anything anymore.
[00:19:28]  It's a luxury product designed to take away leverage from men and give leverage to women.
[00:19:35]  So, The issue with Lauren is she is trying to win the validation of people on the internet and save her reputation.
[00:19:44]  And what I would advise instead is I would just let your reputation go because the more you try to defend it, the more we think you're guilty.
[00:19:56]  And this is something that I think just was not taught.
[00:20:01]  I certainly wasn't taught it.
[00:20:02]  And I think millennials in general were never taught from our parents because a lot of us were raised by nannies, daycare, whatever.
[00:20:10]  To not seek the validation of other people because that's a fruitless pursuit.
[00:20:17]  Fruitless.
[00:20:20]  Life is about making mistakes.
[00:20:22]  And, you know, I don't necessarily begrudge people for making their mistakes, it's about how you respond to the mistakes.
[00:20:29]  You know, people, they pull Rachel Wilson through the coals, right?
[00:20:38]  They say, you know, you made all these mistakes.
[00:20:41]  But people do get second chances and they do come back swinging.
[00:20:45]  So, again, you can be redeemed if you make a mistake.
[00:20:49]  Rachel Wilson's now married to a famous guy on the internet, even though she was a single mom before.
[00:20:56]  That's called redemption, baby.
[00:20:59]  Men get redeemed all the time, but there has to be a penance.
[00:21:06]  An ego death, right?
[00:21:09]  Sage Steele got divorced.
[00:21:11]  Kamala Harris was a 304.
[00:21:13]  She's in the White House.
[00:21:14]  People come back from the bottom all the time.
[00:21:16]  Many people have affairs and have skeletons and come back.
[00:21:20]  Lauren, you lived life and now you're a loser, unfortunately.
[00:21:24]  You're a single mom who allegedly has herpes and banged destiny, allegedly.
[00:21:30]  But here's the catch you chasing public validation is going to lead you to being more of a terrible person than you already are and protecting your reputation.
[00:21:40]  Okay, you're a whore and a single mother and a loser, right?
[00:21:43]  So what?
[00:21:44]  Your friends and family are going to love you anyway.
[00:21:47]  You don't need to take everybody down with you.

=== Life After Losing Your Reputation (07:05) ===

[00:21:51]  You know, I have a friend or somebody that I'm related to, and this person, I know they have a flaw that they're a pathological liar.
[00:22:04]  And a lot of people abandon this person because they say this person is a pathological liar.
[00:22:09]  And I can't help it, I like this person.
[00:22:13]  I know they lie, and I know that's something they struggle with.
[00:22:16]  And usually it's white lies.
[00:22:20]  It's white lies generally that are stupid.
[00:22:24]  And, you know, this person is a helpful person, a kind person.
[00:22:28]  Like this person would help you no matter what, but they tell stories that are just not true.
[00:22:35]  And there's been times where this person, you know, has done kind of a bad thing.
[00:22:41]  Like that's been crazy over the years.
[00:22:43]  I've been friends with this person forever.
[00:22:46]  But I'm on this person's team.
[00:22:47]  I can't really explain why, but I like that person.
[00:22:51]  Really, there's very little they could do for me to kick.
[00:22:55]  I mean, they'd have to really do something mean to me for me to leave their team.
[00:23:01]  And there's, you know, the world's abundant.
[00:23:04]  There's going to be people like that.
[00:23:06]  So seeking the validation of the internet and trying to save your internet reputation, it's done.
[00:23:15]  Go make up with your family.
[00:23:19]  Give the kid to the dad.
[00:23:25]  I wish I could put into words how stupid you look.
[00:23:29]  Now, here's the issue nobody's going to tell you you look stupid because you have too much social power.
[00:23:34]  You're known for being crazy, right?
[00:23:37]  So nobody's going to tell you how dumb you look.
[00:23:39]  And everybody's going to applaud you, especially on the left, for looking like an idiot.
[00:23:46]  So you're welcome for telling you.
[00:23:49]  So let's talk about being zeroed out.
[00:23:51]  The idea of being zeroed out is basically men have spent, quoting Rollo Tommasi, I love you even though you don't love me.
[00:23:59]  That's another one.
[00:24:00]  I chased his.
[00:24:01]  Oh my God, that's a different day.
[00:24:03]  Okay.
[00:24:05]  Men having a lifetime of status, financial equity, reputation, professional and educational growth, emotional investment, and other metrics of men's life being equity being erased.
[00:24:18]  Men go through this a lot of times when they go through a divorce, lose a job, get a false accusation.
[00:24:22]  And women go through this when they lose the status they had.
[00:24:26]  This is me writing this second half.
[00:24:28]  Women go through this when they lose the status they had from their youth.
[00:24:31]  Either through aging out, getting fat, becoming too much of a whore, STDs, banged a guy who brags and embarrasses you, getting fired, sucking at a job, banging your boss and getting caught and fired, spending your youth fat.
[00:24:43]  These are all L's.
[00:24:46]  But here's the thing men, when men have L's, they have to eat L's.
[00:24:52]  They have to eat it.
[00:24:55]  When men get zeroed out and lose everything, they have to deal with the fact that the world thinks they're an abusive loser.
[00:25:01]  But men aren't as concerned with their reputation and understand.
[00:25:05]  That if they make better life choices in the future, they don't have to be their mistakes.
[00:25:10]  You know, Robert Glover talks about this how when a kid is a child, the mother's parenting signals a sense of validation, seeking, and abandonment because when the kid does something wrong, the mother says, You're a bad kid, where the father says, You're a good kid.
[00:25:30]  Why are you doing this?
[00:25:34]  So, men understand that they can be redeemed and have a better life after their mistakes.
[00:25:39]  Maybe not what It could have been, right?
[00:25:40]  But they make the best of a bad situation where, you know, Lauren, you're an absolute loser now.
[00:25:47]  You're never going to get rid of the scarlet letter.
[00:25:50]  You are going to be a joke to some degree forever.
[00:26:01]  The same way Kamala Harris is still a joke to some degree.
[00:26:06]  But life, I'm going to tell you something, guys.
[00:26:10]  Someone that's been embarrassed publicly more times than I can count.
[00:26:13]  Life is better on the other side when you don't have a reputation to maintain.
[00:26:19]  When you stop caring, you know, have you ever been to a dive bar?
[00:26:23]  And it's a dive bar full of low status people, losers, right?
[00:26:28]  Those are the best fucking bars.
[00:26:32]  You're out there in a dive bar with a bunch of single mothers, blue collar people.
[00:26:36]  Not that blue collar people are losers, but it's the way that society views them.
[00:26:40]  It's just not high status.
[00:26:41]  Sorry, guys.
[00:26:42]  I don't make the rules.
[00:26:44]  But it's people that aren't trying, right?
[00:26:47]  Can we just keep it a buck?
[00:26:49]  Everybody hates, everyone chases status, goes into the places that are high status, and then realizes it's not all it's cracked up to be, gets in a bar full of losers and parties like a motherfucker.
[00:27:08]  Life is better when you don't care about your reputation.
[00:27:10]  Look, you're going to have to do, in order to live this down, you got to do a decade or two of good behavior.
[00:27:17]  But luckily, people do move on.
[00:27:18]  They don't care about you that much.
[00:27:19]  You do not have to do all this.
[00:27:22]  You don't.
[00:27:24]  Your friends and family know you're a crazy bitch and they're still going to love you.
[00:27:28]  This is getting sad, Lauren.
[00:27:30]  This is getting embarrassing.
[00:27:31]  Stop coping.
[00:27:34]  Stop coping.
[00:27:36]  Just eat this L. Eat it.
[00:27:39]  Give your son to the father, give up custody.
[00:27:41]  You clearly don't want to be a mom, it's very obvious.
[00:27:44]  Keep pouring, you're clearly good at that.
[00:27:46]  Start in OnlyFans or just give it away for free for a few months until you find a taker.
[00:27:51]  Eat the cell and move on.
[00:27:53]  Men, women, and men too, life is going to humble all of us.
[00:27:58]  You could be humbled by cancer or the death of a loved one.
[00:28:01]  We're all going to watch our parents die.
[00:28:06]  Being a super slut, it doesn't make you a bad person.
[00:28:10]  It's not the end of the world.
[00:28:13]  And if anything, I think that super sluts are providing an essential service to society.
[00:28:17]  Somebody's got to do it.
[00:28:20]  You still have more of an opportunity to win and have a conventional family than an average guy in America.
[00:28:25]  Isn't that incredible?
[00:28:27]  You still have more choice than an average man.
[00:28:31]  You can still get married, maybe not with the giga chads anymore.
[00:28:41]  But.
[00:28:45]  That's all right.
[00:28:45]  You know, we can't have it all.
[00:28:50]  What makes you a bad person is this entire tirade.

=== The Sinister Rise of Online Personas (10:36) ===

[00:28:57]  So we're going to react to her article.
[00:29:04]  Yeah, you see, there's men in the chat saying they'll fix you.
[00:29:07]  Okay.
[00:29:09]  I helped to look at this.
[00:29:10]  This is her now.
[00:29:11]  This was her then.
[00:29:15]  Still would for most of you, I'm sure.
[00:29:17]  I helped build the manosphere, then it destroyed me.
[00:29:22]  The influencer and activist Lauren Southern on abandoning the alt right, her claims about her encounter with Tate and thriving in the offline world.
[00:29:32]  You cannot be doing articles for the Times and say you're in the offline world.
[00:29:40]  Lauren Southern released a highly anticipated memoir than did the unthinkable.
[00:29:44]  She signed off the internet.
[00:29:47]  Bruh, hold on.
[00:29:49]  Hold on.
[00:30:00]  Okay, you signed off the internet for a few months.
[00:30:04]  Women are incredible.
[00:30:06]  Okay.
[00:30:07]  Okay.
[00:30:09]  I signed off the internet, but I'm still doing articles.
[00:30:12]  I mean, this is just getting sad.
[00:30:14]  While most authors with millions of followers are expected to drum up publicity on social media, last July, Southern mutinol notifications on her phone are retreated to the anonymity of her life in remote Western Canada.
[00:30:27]  Her decision is not so surprising when you consider the decade long journey she went on to write the book from an alt right provocateur to a mother warning.
[00:30:35]  That online communities are warping young minds, the internet said.
[00:30:39]  She loved the idea of this blonde Nazi chick, she told The Times in her first mainstream interview since the release of her book, This Is Not Real Life.
[00:30:47]  I was basically the hardest drug you could get at the time, but it wasn't real.
[00:30:52]  Yeah, the internet isn't real.
[00:30:54]  Southern was 19 in 2015 when she rose to notoriety as a telegenic YouTuber promoting hateful opinions on immigration, feminism, and the Islamification of the West.
[00:31:06]  At the time, Trump was entering the political scene.
[00:31:10]  And these ideas were beginning to gain traction.
[00:31:16]  Look at.
[00:31:21]  She got to meet some of the highest status people.
[00:31:23]  She befriended the far right extremist Tommy Robinson, known for stirring anti Muslim feeling, and became the female face for the Manosphere, producing the viral hit video, Why I Am Not a Feminist.
[00:31:34]  In early 2018, Southern distributed flyers in Robinson's hometown of Luton, calling Allah gay as parts of what she said was a social experiment.
[00:31:43]  This earned her a ban from the UK on the grounds of her presence in the country was not conducive to the public good.
[00:31:51]  Southern continued to fall in a dark online world, exploiting it before it eventually began exploiting her.
[00:31:58]  She wrote in her book last summer, expressing regret for the role she had played, but only now feels ready to talk about it.
[00:32:05]  I had no understanding of the world or how it worked, Southern said in Zoom from her living room, still sporting the trademark red lipstick and dark mascara which she built her brand.
[00:32:15]  There was no notion that I would ever become famous or even travel or anything like that.
[00:32:24]  Do you understand how dumb you sound, Lauren?
[00:32:27]  You had no notion that you would become famous while chasing fame.
[00:32:33]  I mean, this is just.
[00:32:36]  She grew up in a middle class, evangelical Protestant family in Surrey, British Columbia, a multicultural city not far from the border of Washington state.
[00:32:44]  She was raised, she said, on a steady diet of conservative American television.
[00:32:48]  Shock Jock Radio and the Bible.
[00:32:50]  She ran an unsuccessful campaign to win as a Libertarian Party candidate.
[00:32:54]  Oh my God.
[00:32:55]  She ran for office.
[00:32:58]  Oh my God.
[00:32:59]  This delusion was taken too far.
[00:33:01]  And Canada's 2015 federal election.
[00:33:03]  At the time, she was also studying political science at the University of Fraser Valley, where she was one of the few right wing voices on campus.
[00:33:11]  She admits she enjoyed being a contrarian.
[00:33:14]  Once interrupting an anti rape march with a sign, there is no rape culture in the wet.
[00:33:20]  Do you see this?
[00:33:21]  She went from there is no rape culture to accusing everyone of rape.
[00:33:26]  Midway through her degree, Southern dropped out when she was offered a chance to be the face of Rebel News, Canada's answer to Breitbart.
[00:33:33]  Soon after, she released her Why I'm Not a Feminist video, in which she claims that feminists unintentionally created a reverse world of sexism, which garnered more than 30 million.
[00:33:43]  Jesus Christ, that is so many views.
[00:33:47]  On one video?
[00:33:50]  I don't think I've ever gotten that many views on a video.
[00:33:58]  Reflecting on the time, Southern now 30 says the healthy community bubble she grew up in distorted her understanding of the dangers men could pose.
[00:34:06]  I think I projected the men in my life onto every other man in the world, she said.
[00:34:11]  I assumed other women were just making it up when they talked about all these toxic men because I had never encountered them.
[00:34:19]  Bruh.
[00:34:26]  You had never encountered a toxic man.
[00:34:29]  Translation I said what I needed to to get famous.
[00:34:32]  Like, do you not think, Lauren, do you not think people see through this?
[00:34:35]  You got to stop.
[00:34:37]  You got, and I say this with love, you have to stop.
[00:34:40]  After her first viral video, she started making longer form documentaries, including one produced in South Africa that focused on the alleged persecution of white farmers.
[00:34:49]  Then at the height of the migrant crisis, she joined the organization Defend Europe as it tried to block the non governmental organization's boats.
[00:34:57]  Rescuing refugees in the Mediterranean.
[00:35:00]  She connected with Robinson, the former leader of the English Defense League, as he was fermenting Islamophobia in the wake of Britain's grooming gang scandal.
[00:35:09]  They shared the belief that there is a generational crusade to save the West.
[00:35:13]  All the while, Southern said her persona was being created online and she revealed it.
[00:35:17]  A lot of those very far right communities are creating a lore around me, Southern said.
[00:35:22]  It was like, okay, you want me to be that?
[00:35:24]  Fine, I'll play your villain.
[00:35:25]  I'll have fun with it.
[00:35:26]  I'll trigger you and wear the it's okay to be white shirt.
[00:35:28]  So again, no accountability for the choices she made.
[00:35:33]  This is why it's kind of the men's fault to a degree because they keep giving women these things.
[00:35:38]  Like they keep giving women positions over nothing.
[00:35:40]  So it's like, what do you.
[00:35:43]  The algorithmic nature of the internet meant she was rewarded for her most shocking comments and moments.
[00:35:49]  Every time someone would partake in a new kind of low behavior, whether it be making up a story or creating a clickbait headline that was dishonest, everyone would look and say, well, the only way I can survive in this environment is if I. Equise, she said.
[00:36:08]  In 2016, Trump was elected president and he reposted some of Southern's content, helping boost her profile.
[00:36:14]  Each video attracted more and more attention than the last.
[00:36:17]  The media dubbed her the original MAGA Dream Girl, the alt right's most famous woman, and the first soldier in the online culture war.
[00:36:25]  The same year, Southern self published her first book, Barbarians How the Baby Boomers, Immigration, and Islam Screwed My Generation, and which she argued that Western civilization was in decline due to the spread of left wing ideologies.
[00:36:38]  The last time she spoke to the Times in 2019, she was denied being a racist to the far right.
[00:36:43]  She finished the interview by predicting a race war and quoting Enoch Powell.
[00:36:50]  I know I said the name wrong.
[00:36:52]  You know how I am, guys.
[00:36:53]  I'm bad with names.
[00:36:55]  Can't help it.
[00:36:56]  The woman flying the flag for the generation.
[00:36:59]  Okay.
[00:37:02]  Now she's changed her mind.
[00:37:03]  Shocking.
[00:37:04]  So, what I mean, all the women that are supposed to prove the red pill wrong are just becoming examples of it.
[00:37:21]  Now, with the benefit of distance, Southern said she has been a young and angry engagement addict who was looking to the internet for approval.
[00:37:28]  It was all about keeping the excitement and the chaos, but it had a short lifespan because there's no depth to it.
[00:37:34]  It was an ideological lap dance, she said.
[00:37:36]  People aren't really looking for politics, they're not looking for a worldview.
[00:37:40]  They just want someone that's pretty and hot to affirm what they already feel and think and believe.
[00:37:47]  Translation I got my job because I was hot, it was easy money, I said what I had to say.
[00:37:52]  The week I talked to Southern, the online account of a blonde all American army girl called Jessica Foster was in the news.
[00:37:58]  One photo showed Foster sporting a short, scammed army uniform and giving a speech with President Trump in attendance.
[00:38:05]  Another showed her smiling and posing proudly alongside Trump and President Putin of Russia.
[00:38:11]  Foster hit 1 million followers on Instagram before the mainstream media exposed her as an AI generated scam.
[00:38:18]  While the MAGA movement once harassed the appeal of pretty young women like Southern, To amplify their views.
[00:38:24]  Now anyone can generate a political avatar with an AI code.
[00:38:29]  Late last year, Elon Musk's ex introduced a location feature that revealed many MAGA and right wing influencers who present themselves as patriotic Americans were actually operating outside the US, including Russia, Nigeria, and India.
[00:38:42]  In the early days when I was getting started, everything was real, Southern said.
[00:38:46]  Everything was curated by real people, everything getting posted was real.
[00:38:50]  Now it's just bots and algorithms.
[00:38:53]  She warned it was a sinister development.
[00:38:55]  Now you don't know who's running it.
[00:38:57]  If it's from a foreign government, some with a bunch of bots, or paid to have their video boosted, it's a real concern.
[00:39:06]  Southern said it was in early 2018 that Robinson, whose real name is Stephen, I'm not saying that, mentioned it to her that he had been in contact with some wealthy crypto investors in Europe who might be interested in sponsoring a large media project if they could all build it together.
[00:39:21]  The investors turned out to be Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan, who are beginning.
[00:39:25]  An establishment just beginning to establish a more online presence that would later form the foundations of the Manosphere.

=== Algorithms and Foreign Interference (15:14) ===

[00:39:33]  Now, again, the Manosphere is not Tate, it's not me.
[00:39:38]  It's really more like Rollo, Tommasi, Roycey.
[00:39:43]  These people, I guess, maybe you could say were part of it, but it's not the original Manosphere was in forums.
[00:39:48]  Donovan.
[00:39:50]  Okay, the Tates booked Southern on a flight to.
[00:39:53]  Okay, so she got flew out by Tate.
[00:39:55]  Okay.
[00:39:58]  To do business.
[00:40:00]  In her memoir published last July, she details her vision of that night.
[00:40:04]  Andrew, she wrote, revealed he was a fan of her work and allegedly asked Southern if she was interested in starting a family.
[00:40:10]  It's how we rebuild Western civilization, he told her.
[00:40:13]  She had one or two drinks in the club and felt surprisingly intoxicated.
[00:40:19]  I got drunk.
[00:40:19]  I wanted to bang him because he was rich, hot, and famous.
[00:40:23]  Just say that.
[00:40:24]  Just say that, Lauren.
[00:40:27]  She went home with Tate, who invited her into bed.
[00:40:31]  I kissed him briefly and then told him I wanted to sleep.
[00:40:34]  I said no many times and tried to pull his hand off of me.
[00:40:37]  She alleged in the memoir, he put his arm around my neck and began strangling me unconscious.
[00:40:42]  I tried to fight back.
[00:40:43]  He repeatedly strangled me every time I regained enough consciousness to pull out his arms.
[00:40:48]  I prefer not to share the rest.
[00:40:50]  It's pretty obvious.
[00:40:51]  Southern did not go public with her allegations until the eve of the book, This Is Not Real Life, when she posted two chapters from the book on Substack.
[00:40:58]  Tate responded on X that she made claims to get attention so she could sell her memoirs of promiscuity.
[00:41:04]  Coincidence, I'm sure.
[00:41:07]  Tate's lawyer said in a statement in July that Southern was lying through her teeth, accusing her of textbook extortion.
[00:41:15]  It's like, Lauren, if you're not going to press charges, just eat the L. Like, seriously.
[00:41:22]  Shut up.
[00:41:23]  Eat the L. Thank you for those super chats.
[00:41:26]  Oh my God, you're making me pronounce this.
[00:41:29]  Why are you doing this to me?
[00:41:30]  Acquiesce.
[00:41:31]  Acquiesce.
[00:41:33]  I can't read.
[00:41:35]  Thanks for your videos.
[00:41:40]  Oh my God.
[00:41:41]  Okay.
[00:41:43]  No such.
[00:41:45]  Okay, okay, okay.
[00:41:46]  He said she was weaponizing her previous consensual encounters for financial gain.
[00:41:52]  McBride said his client would sue Southern for defamation.
[00:41:54]  Andrew's going to lean into this for the truth.
[00:41:57]  He's got nothing to hide.
[00:41:58]  If there was an encounter, it was consensual.
[00:42:00]  No such filing has been made.
[00:42:02]  Yeah, he's not going to file.
[00:42:03]  He's done with court.
[00:42:04]  There's no way.
[00:42:07]  Okay.
[00:42:08]  Tate is facing lawsuits.
[00:42:09]  Okay.
[00:42:10]  We know that.
[00:42:10]  We know that.
[00:42:12]  Why didn't she come back with her allegations in 2018?
[00:42:16]  Southern states that are memorial.
[00:42:18]  It wouldn't be helpful to the cause or my career for me to become exactly what I criticized a victim.
[00:42:27]  Bruh.
[00:42:29]  Lauren, then just eat the L. Do you know what I mean?
[00:42:34]  Just eat it.
[00:42:35]  Oh my God.
[00:42:36]  File charges or shut up.
[00:42:38]  It's just incredible, these women.
[00:42:42]  Her private pain, which she tried to ease with drugs and alcohol, led her to unplugging from the internet in 2019.
[00:42:49]  Probably because she caught herpes, if we're going to be for real.
[00:42:53]  I mean, because that's the rumor with him.
[00:42:55]  The train I was on was going faster and faster, but by the time I realized it was going at speeds that might kill me, the idea of jumping off seemed impossible.
[00:43:03]  She posted a new chapter on our website about her decision to take some time off and focus on her soul.
[00:43:10]  She had fallen in love and married an Australian man.
[00:43:13]  Who coincidentally was also an abuser.
[00:43:16]  It's like, bro.
[00:43:17]  Her hiatus didn't last long.
[00:43:19]  She had a son.
[00:43:20]  Okay.
[00:43:20]  She had a son in 2020, married a guy in Australia.
[00:43:23]  A guy, I can't talk.
[00:43:24]  A guy in Australia.
[00:43:26]  The same year her son was born, she reinvented herself as a trad wife, which she suspects played into a Christian need for redemption.
[00:43:33]  She posted photos of a curated life that showed her exercising and baking in the couple's home in Australia.
[00:43:40]  I figured if I followed the manual of look pretty, quit my job, have babies, serve my husband, that I should have a happy life that I crave.
[00:43:46]  But Southern claimed her husband became controlling, and whenever she tried to assert any amount of independence, she alleges he would lock her out of the house, calling her a worthless dead weight.
[00:43:55]  Well, were you worthless dead weight?
[00:44:02]  Were you a worthless dead weight?
[00:44:04]  Really?
[00:44:05]  You were just perfect.
[00:44:07]  In all these situations, you were just perfect and tricked.
[00:44:13]  Look, this is how I would have done it, Lauren.
[00:44:18]  I would have came out and I would have said, Look, guys, whoring was more fun than I thought.
[00:44:28]  Being married, not that fun.
[00:44:30]  Sorry about all the stuff I said.
[00:44:32]  I'm going to stay on the internet because I'd rather do that than watch my kids.
[00:44:36]  Let's move on.
[00:44:37]  See that?
[00:44:38]  You could always just say, I did it.
[00:44:40]  I knew it was wrong.
[00:44:43]  Let's move on.
[00:44:44]  Sorry to the people I hurt.
[00:44:46]  Southern said her husband left her and their son, and she went against his wishes by visiting her family in Canada.
[00:44:54]  She filed a protective order, and the couple would end up officially separating.
[00:44:58]  A cardinal sin in the traditionalist movement, the backlash was swift.
[00:45:03]  Commentators called her a whore and wished her damnation.
[00:45:06]  Her estranged husband was unreachable for comment.
[00:45:08]  Southern has been the darling of the online right until she failed to meet.
[00:45:13]  Oh my God.
[00:45:15]  The online right's impossible expectations, Lauren.
[00:45:20]  I'm sorry.
[00:45:22]  The expectations were not impossible.
[00:45:25]  Women get married young and have kids all the time.
[00:45:27]  It's just you didn't want to do it.
[00:45:30]  Eat that L. Eat it.
[00:45:31]  You got to eat it.
[00:45:32]  All right.
[00:45:36]  You know, it's not like we said be a billionaire.
[00:45:38]  They just said, you know, marry young, have kids, get off the internet.
[00:45:44]  It's like, bruh.
[00:45:47]  Okay.
[00:45:48]  It's a systemic, it's a system in which you're guaranteed to fail as a woman because you cannot survive.
[00:45:58]  It's contact with reality.
[00:46:04]  She said these men want to have sex with women, they also want them to stay virgins.
[00:46:09]  There was this app that came out.
[00:46:15]  Called Digin if AI that allowed men to clothe OnlyFans girls so they were more modest.
[00:46:22]  Those same men were undressing the women.
[00:46:25]  Southern now finds herself in the uncomfortable intersection of victim and beneficiary of the manosphere, which has worked to dehumanize women and normalize violence against them.
[00:46:38]  My life is a punchline to go to a girl that's holding up a sign about rape culture, to helping create the manosphere, to having Tate assault me.
[00:46:47]  Look, Lauren.
[00:46:49]  You've got to just eat this L.
[00:46:51]  This is sad.
[00:46:56]  This is so sad.
[00:46:58]  This is pathetic.
[00:47:02]  Say, hey, I thought I wasn't a whore.
[00:47:05]  Turns out I was.
[00:47:17]  I can't read the.
[00:47:18]  Oh my God.
[00:47:19]  Okay.
[00:47:19]  I guess there's a little bit left.
[00:47:20]  I'll read.
[00:47:21]  I briefly wonder whether Southern's apparent contrition is part of her decade long grip for attention.
[00:47:28]  But unlike her pivot in 2020, this seems less performative.
[00:47:31]  As a mother, she clearly feels a heavy responsibility to create a healthier online environment.
[00:47:37]  So, women, just you know, so basically, women's burden of performance is in our 20s.
[00:47:44]  Occasionally, a woman wins in her 30s.
[00:47:51]  And the burden of performance is to get a hot guy to commit.
[00:47:57]  And the women that don't win, that are losers, they are trying to rationalize their loserness as not being a defect of their personality or choices.
[00:48:06]  So they are just going to blame it on the abuse of men, as usual.
[00:48:11]  Okay.
[00:48:19]  I can't read the rest of this.
[00:48:22]  I can't.
[00:48:22]  I'm sorry.
[00:48:23]  I don't care.
[00:48:23]  I don't.
[00:48:25]  There's only two paragraphs left, and I just don't care.
[00:48:28]  You're a loser.
[00:48:30]  Okay.
[00:48:31]  So, my question, and we're going to have a call in, is could a woman like that be redeemed?
[00:48:38]  And what would she have to do to be redeemed?
[00:48:42]  Now, when I say redeemed, I don't mean that she's going to have the high status she had when she was young.
[00:48:50]  I'm not even saying that she.
[00:48:54]  Necessarily like is revered in any way, but like the way she is now, I put her in the way back of the church, and she's just an absolute loser.
[00:49:06]  Now, if Christians would just hand her a microphone and say, Get on stage, convert tomorrow, but it's not me.
[00:49:15]  So, anyways, I think you know, whores do have a path to redemption, and here would be my game plan to her return your kid to the dad.
[00:49:27]  You have a son.
[00:49:29]  Sons need their father.
[00:49:31]  Call the father, apologize, give him custody.
[00:49:35]  Number two, drop the conservative act.
[00:49:38]  You've not lived the life of a conservative woman.
[00:49:41]  You shot for the moon and you missed.
[00:49:43]  You shot for the stars and you missed.
[00:49:44]  Eat the L. Embrace being a whore.
[00:49:47]  You have a scarlet letter now.
[00:49:49]  And instead of fighting people, instead of fighting people about the fact that, like, trying to, Gaslight us into the fact you were not a whore.
[00:50:00]  Just eat it, embrace it.
[00:50:01]  Maybe start an OnlyFans.
[00:50:04]  High end escorting, you know, it's a service.
[00:50:07]  Be prepared to pay for yourself for a lifetime and come in with some humility if a man is, if you are so lucky to have a man take care of you.
[00:50:20]  Bring humility to your next relationship.
[00:50:22]  Men do forgive a lot for some humility.
[00:50:25]  Stop talking forever.
[00:50:27]  And you know what?
[00:50:27]  If you want to stay on the internet, because this is your job to some degree, I will actually give you a compromise.
[00:50:33]  You can do the job, but then never talk about yourself again and stop talking about your personal life.
[00:50:44]  So, just go in, talk about immigration, log off.
[00:50:47]  That's it.
[00:50:49]  You're so focused on getting the world's approval and validation, you're being a terrible person in the process.
[00:50:54]  And you don't have to be.
[00:50:56]  That would be my path to redemption.
[00:50:57]  I need good behavior from you, no false accusations, no craziness, maybe a year of jail time for the false accusation.
[00:51:05]  But since no one was thrown in jail, hmm.
[00:51:15]  Maybe she needs some jail time.
[00:51:17]  I don't know.
[00:51:18]  Guys, I'm going to put the link in the chat.
[00:51:24]  Because do you know what?
[00:51:25]  She probably could use some more jail time.
[00:51:30]  Could she be redeemed?
[00:51:31]  And what would you say she has to do?
[00:51:33]  Doug MPA is going to come in first, and then you guys can call in.
[00:51:38]  What would redemption look like for her?
[00:52:01]  Let me pin the link one second.
[00:52:04]  The link is in the YouTube chat.
[00:52:06]  Before I bring up Doug MPA, I'm going to give you my rules for the show.
[00:52:12]  I would love for you guys to call in.
[00:52:13]  There's a lot of smart, intelligent men that have really good ideas that I love having on the show.
[00:52:18]  However, if it's your first time calling in, don't fear.
[00:52:21]  I don't bite.
[00:52:22]  It's pretty easy to get on the show if I'm being honest.
[00:52:25]  However, I would like for you to come on.
[00:52:27]  Please do not tell me how much you love the show.
[00:52:31]  Please do not tell me how excited you are to meet me.
[00:52:34]  This is no insult to you.
[00:52:36]  But you're going to come up.
[00:52:38]  I'm going to ask you a question.
[00:52:40]  Can Lauren Southern be redeemed?
[00:52:43]  And you just get to the point.
[00:52:48]  And if we're vibing, I might ask you that you stay on the panel.
[00:52:53]  Sometimes people have good answers and I don't have them stay just because other people vibe a little better.
[00:53:01]  I do give preferential treatment to people with their cameras on.
[00:53:05]  They can come on first.
[00:53:07]  And people I know.
[00:53:08]  Sorry, I have nepotism.
[00:53:10]  I don't care.
[00:53:11]  The link is StreamYards and it's in the description.
[00:53:14]  So you just click it.
[00:53:16]  The reason I give preferential treatment to the cameras on is because.
[00:53:22]  I just think there's something about saying what you're going to say with your face.
[00:53:25]  But I do understand people have jobs.
[00:53:26]  So, you know, yes, Doug MPA doesn't have to because he's been my moderator for four years.
[00:53:33]  Sorry.
[00:53:33]  Sorry, guys.
[00:53:34]  You know, some people get preferential treatment.
[00:53:36]  It just is what it is.
[00:53:41]  I think it just needs a Google account.
[00:53:44]  If you have mic issues, I'm just going to cut you because I don't have time for that shit.
[00:53:49]  I don't care.
[00:53:50]  Figure out StreamYard.
[00:53:51]  It's not my problem.
[00:53:52]  You can try a couple different browsers.
[00:53:54]  Sometimes that fixes it.
[00:53:55]  Yeah.
[00:53:56]  All right, Doug MPA, welcome to the show.
[00:53:59]  Thank you for coming on.
[00:54:01]  How can Lauren Southern be redeemed?
[00:54:04]  So I'm going to expand the question for the callers.
[00:54:08]  So, okay, Lauren Southern is a loser, single mom on social media.
[00:54:17]  So, can Lauren Southern be redeemed?
[00:54:21]  That's a question.
[00:54:23]  What's the female version of the word loser?
[00:54:26]  Because when you think of the word loser, you always think of a guy with Cheetos in his mom's basement.
[00:54:31]  And just in general, if a woman's a loser, just in general, single mom, student loan debt, talk too much on the internet, can a female loser be redeemed in general?
[00:54:44]  And what does that look like?
[00:54:47]  Understand what I'm saying?

=== Can She Ever Be Redeemed (13:47) ===

[00:54:48]  So, first off, I didn't know that Lauren Southern was Canadian, number one.
[00:54:52]  So I don't know how she'd give you a right wing e girl and be Canadian.
[00:54:57]  Two, Jenna's too.
[00:54:59]  Really?
[00:55:00]  Yeah, brother.
[00:55:02]  These Canadians come in and tell us how to do politics.
[00:55:04]  It's like, fuck you guys.
[00:55:07]  Have you seen your country, Canadians?
[00:55:09]  You guys better sit down.
[00:55:11]  You can't tell us shit.
[00:55:14]  Like, go back.
[00:55:16]  Your capital is Pajitville.
[00:55:17]  And they're going to try and tell us all about politics over here.
[00:55:22]  And then also, I didn't know that Lauren Southern was married and pretty much had the life of a trad and said he was too controlled.
[00:55:30]  She's cooked.
[00:55:32]  She's cooked.
[00:55:33]  I had no idea.
[00:55:34]  So there's literally no, I mean, moving forward, she wants a traditional man, but she just proved that she doesn't want a traditional life.
[00:55:46]  I think she doesn't want the trad man anymore.
[00:55:48]  I don't get it.
[00:55:49]  She banged Destiny after the divorce.
[00:55:51]  After that?
[00:55:51]  Oh, okay.
[00:55:53]  The Destiny, she left the trad man.
[00:55:55]  She went full Destiny.
[00:55:58]  Ugh.
[00:55:59]  Yikes.
[00:55:59]  What an L.
[00:56:00]  So.
[00:56:01]  Oh, I forgot to add that.
[00:56:03]  That makes you more of a Lou.
[00:56:04]  You banged a bi guy.
[00:56:10]  His poopy dick was all in her mouth, dude.
[00:56:15]  He probably banged some dude the same that she did, she banged Lauren Southern.
[00:56:20]  Anyway, so I think Lauren Southern used to go full OF.
[00:56:27]  Like, if you embrace being kind of notorious and then embrace being a whore, like, you know, she's 31, 32 right now.
[00:56:38]  She can get us solved three, four, five years and cash out that way.
[00:56:44]  What if she wants to be a respectable member of society?
[00:56:47]  Any path?
[00:56:48]  Bank destiny.
[00:56:49]  That's not possible.
[00:56:51]  Okay.
[00:56:51]  Okay.
[00:56:54]  No path.
[00:56:55]  You say no path to redemption.
[00:56:58]  You know, it would be the same.
[00:57:00]  I would put her on the same criteria as these e girls that go to the church.
[00:57:05]  She needs to sit down for about 10 years, not say a word, do something actually worthwhile in society.
[00:57:14]  So actually get like a Maybe get a real job where she produces something that benefits society, but she needs to get off social media for 10 years.
[00:57:24]  You know, maybe get a career in something that produces something for society.
[00:57:29]  And I would say, you know, get married and have kids, but she's not going to do that.
[00:57:33]  So, yeah.
[00:57:36]  The, you know, I'm going to use Rachel Wilson as an example.
[00:57:42]  They're not the same, but, you know, she was a single mother.
[00:57:45]  And now I would say she's a functioning member of society.
[00:57:49]  Right, but she had good behavior for like a decade plus, you know.
[00:57:55]  So there is redemption, not but destiny that's so much worse.
[00:58:01]  Yeah, that's such a hole to dig your way out of.
[00:58:05]  How do you dig your way out of that?
[00:58:06]  Yeah, and when you think about it, like when women are 50 and 60, no one's really when they're old, no one's really talking about what they like, no one cares anymore what they did when they're young because they're old, Lauren Southern is.
[00:58:21]  She just turned 30, so she's going to be 31 this year.
[00:58:26]  Okay, let's see.
[00:58:27]  Mark, welcome to the show.
[00:58:29]  Thank you for coming.
[00:58:32]  What is your thought?
[00:58:33]  Can Lauren Southern be redeemed and how?
[00:58:37]  Technically, yes.
[00:58:38]  Realistically, probably not based on her pattern of behavior.
[00:58:42]  Step number one she has to face herself in the mirror and be completely honest about her reasons for what she did and stop trying to justify, stop making excuses, stop playing the victim.
[00:58:52]  She has responsibility for what she did.
[00:58:54]  If she can't do that, there's no point in even talking about the path forward because that's step number one for all of us in life.
[00:59:02]  You've done it, you've spoken from experience that you had to face yourself.
[00:59:06]  And that's why you're saying the exact same thing to her.
[00:59:09]  She has to stop making excuses.
[00:59:12]  How would you tell her if she wanted to publicly do that?
[00:59:18]  What would you tell her to say?
[00:59:22]  She has to come clean, be honest, no excuses.
[00:59:25]  She has to even say out loud, I've been making excuses, I've been in denial.
[00:59:29]  I see that, I recognize it's not going to help me achieve what I want in life.
[00:59:33]  So I'm not going to do that anymore.
[00:59:34]  I'm going to hold myself accountable to do the painful thing of being honest with myself about all of my choices, all of my actions.
[00:59:42]  And I'm going to be an advocate for people to do the same.
[00:59:45]  She has to advocate for people being honest with themselves instead of defending people who are making excuses, who are looking for justifications.
[00:59:53]  That's what she has to do.
[00:59:54]  She has to prove.
[00:59:55]  That she truly has changed her thinking about what she has done.
[01:00:00]  If she doesn't want to demonstrate it like that, there's no redemption.
[01:00:05]  So, if she did that, what would be the next step?
[01:00:11]  The next step is when she sees other people following in her footsteps, making the same choices, she needs to reach out to them and say, Hey, look at me.
[01:00:20]  I went down that same path.
[01:00:21]  It didn't end well.
[01:00:22]  If you continue down this path, you're probably going to have the same outcomes.
[01:00:26]  That would be the next step where she demonstrates she's truly changed.
[01:00:30]  And then she starts warning people when she encounters people who are doing the same.
[01:00:33]  And when she encounters people who have learned from her mistake, she holds them up as role models for other people to look at.
[01:00:41]  Doug MPA, go ahead.
[01:00:44]  What do you think of the article that Pearl read about the whole Manosphere theme?
[01:00:49]  Oh, a whole bunch of cope, right?
[01:00:52]  Like, reading all that cope, what is the likelihood of her doing anything of what she's saying right now?
[01:01:01]  Probably zero.
[01:01:04]  Look at that article.
[01:01:05]  How much gratitude did she have for the privilege she was given?
[01:01:09]  How much gratitude did she express for the position she was given, the opportunity she was given?
[01:01:14]  She hasn't demonstrated gratitude.
[01:01:16]  Instead, she's playing the victim and blaming for why she lost what she had when it's clearly demonstrated by lack of gratitude.
[01:01:24]  If you're unthankful, the people who have propped you up will stop propping you up.
[01:01:29]  If you don't say thank you to the people who break their back to provide for you, right, they have a right to stop providing for you.
[01:01:35]  Let's look at families.
[01:01:37]  There's a reason in history children were disowned for being ungrateful, entitled brats.
[01:01:43]  The parents will sometimes kick them out and say, You're not part of the family.
[01:01:46]  Your behavior is intolerable.
[01:01:47]  We provide for you and you're ungrateful.
[01:01:50]  You're entitled.
[01:01:50]  Yeah, we're not going to put up with that.
[01:01:52]  She did the same.
[01:01:53]  Did she express gratitude?
[01:01:56]  I don't think she did.
[01:01:58]  No, it was all I was abused and blah, blah, blah.
[01:02:04]  Sean, welcome to the show.
[01:02:06]  What do you think of the topic?
[01:02:08]  Can Lauren Southern be redeemed?
[01:02:10]  And if so, how?
[01:02:12]  100%.
[01:02:13]  I mean, can you guys hear me?
[01:02:14]  Yeah, we can hear you.
[01:02:15]  Yeah, I mean, 100%.
[01:02:17]  Right?
[01:02:17]  Like so many people have made their comebacks.
[01:02:20]  They claim that I was abused.
[01:02:22]  Claim that they manipulated me.
[01:02:25]  It's the men who were, I was always trying to vie for their attention and all this, right?
[01:02:32]  And then they play the female victim card.
[01:02:34]  It's going to be something like that.
[01:02:37]  But I don't think in this stage and age in current media that admitting what you did was wrong, I don't think that really gives you any points.
[01:02:45]  I think usually the media is out for blood, and anyone who bends the knee, they usually don't end up well.
[01:02:51]  So I think it's taught a lot of people to.
[01:02:54]  Go against the grain and either double down or cast blame or, you know, get their body in really hot shape and get even more followers on Instagram.
[01:03:04]  Like, that's pretty much the playbook that's going to happen really lean into getting more viewers, more eyeballs, and attention, and you're probably going to come out ahead.
[01:03:13]  Going away for a while usually does not serve anyone's career well long term.
[01:03:18]  I think it was Trump who said, the only, like, there's no such thing as bad media.
[01:03:22]  Like, all media is good media.
[01:03:24]  So I think she's going to play to that card if she's smart.
[01:03:28]  Okay, so you actually think she shouldn't apologize for anything?
[01:03:32]  I mean, morally, yes, but for her career, hell no.
[01:03:36]  It doesn't serve her any benefit.
[01:03:38]  Think about Nala.
[01:03:39]  Did Nala ever apologize and say, What I did was wrong, and I'm going to go repent.
[01:03:44]  And that means I'm going to go away for the next decade, and I'm going to live myself as a good Christian?
[01:03:48]  No.
[01:03:49]  She said, Hey, I dunked my head in water.
[01:03:51]  I'm good.
[01:03:52]  I'm keeping all the money.
[01:03:53]  I'm not giving anyone any money, right?
[01:03:55]  And look at her.
[01:03:56]  She has even more followers, right?
[01:03:58]  She's probably selling merch at this point.
[01:04:00]  So, the reality is that the playbook of, you know, nice guys finish last isn't going to help anyone.
[01:04:06]  You know what, Sean?
[01:04:08]  Thanks for black pilling me a little more today.
[01:04:12]  Because, you know what?
[01:04:13]  That made perfect sense.
[01:04:14]  I mean, look, you got to look at dating apps as an example.
[01:04:17]  The hottest women get so much attention and they look like sluts, quite frankly, right?
[01:04:22]  They're not looking like the kind of girl you want to take home and meet your mom and stuff like that.
[01:04:26]  So, the reality is, to some degree, men do reward this, and you can say it's SIP men or you can just say, At the end of the day, that's just what men want.
[01:04:35]  But it's just what the market rewards at this point in time.
[01:04:38]  So I think smart people will play to it and dumb people will take the high road.
[01:04:42]  You know, maybe they care more about their Christian soul or whatever it is.
[01:04:46]  But in this day and age, like, there's no point, you know, being the good guy.
[01:04:51]  That's my take on it.
[01:04:52]  Okay.
[01:04:53]  Jordan, welcome to the show.
[01:04:55]  Do you think Lauren Southern can be redeemed?
[01:04:59]  Yeah.
[01:04:59]  I mean, in the eyes of God, always.
[01:05:03]  But the thing is, I don't think it's a thing where necessarily she should go on a media tour apologizing, talking about how she repented.
[01:05:12]  I don't think that really is redemption.
[01:05:14]  I kind of agree with you that the best thing she could probably do is talk about politics and then just shut the hell up.
[01:05:23]  Would you, is there anything I missed or anyone on the panel missed that you'd advise?
[01:05:27]  For her?
[01:05:28]  Yeah, for her.
[01:05:32]  I don't know.
[01:05:33]  Yeah, I think the whole thing, like the book and all that stuff, she's digging herself deeper, you know?
[01:05:38]  Yeah.
[01:05:39]  Like, I don't think it's helping her.
[01:05:40]  I don't think that's genuine.
[01:05:42]  It's like, okay, just keep your mouth shut.
[01:05:47]  Doug MPA, feel free to ask any questions.
[01:05:50]  So, like I said, Pearl is not afraid to call Lauren a loser.
[01:05:55]  And like I said, when you think of the word loser, you think automatically of a guy eating Cheetos in his mom's basement.
[01:06:03]  What should be the female equivalent of the word loser?
[01:06:06]  Like, what's a word that you can call women that are losers?
[01:06:10]  Because losers are automatically going to be associated with men, unfortunately.
[01:06:14]  What do we call female losers?
[01:06:17]  We already have a word spinster, the old woman who never got married, never had kids.
[01:06:25]  Anyone else?
[01:06:26]  Yeah, I mean, to be honest, the worst thing you can call a woman is invisible.
[01:06:32]  Oh, that was good.
[01:06:36]  That's kind of true.
[01:06:37]  In a sense, are you guys talking about her, like, should she start an OnlyFans?
[01:06:41]  Like, that's some doomerous shit, but that kind of idea keeps her alive and relevant forever, you know?
[01:06:46]  Like, she'll never be a loser if you guys are like, oh, she should just accept it and start an OF.
[01:06:51]  Like, that's the opposite of what should happen, probably.
[01:06:54]  But yeah, if she's seen, like, she's never going to.
[01:06:57]  Like, she doesn't care if it's negative attention, she just wants attention 100%.
[01:07:02]  And she can monetize it, right?
[01:07:04]  Let's look at it like this she's in the position she's in because she wanted attention, so now she has to do the exact opposite of not looking for attention.
[01:07:13]  Yes, she has to be okay with not having any attention.
[01:07:17]  I hope she truly changed her mind.
[01:07:19]  It would be demonstrated by not looking for attention.
[01:07:22]  Yeah, I personally hope she just keeps going because I mean, it gives me content so.
[01:07:30]  But you're honest.
[01:07:32]  You know, it's not going to help her in the long run have peace with herself, but you're honest about why you say it.
[01:07:38]  And Pearl and I were talking about one time where I said, as a woman, it has to suck.
[01:07:45]  As a mid, it has to suck when you see a beautiful woman who could have had a great life based upon her looks, but fumbled the whole thing.
[01:07:52]  It's the same thing as being black.
[01:07:54]  All of us black guys know a guy who could have gone to the NBA, the NFL, at least D1 in college in a sport, but he knocked up his girlfriend.
[01:08:04]  Friend did something stupid, you know, or went to jail and never got to realize his potential.
[01:08:11]  That has to be the same with Lauren Southern with her looks, right, Pearly?
[01:08:15]  Oh, yeah.
[01:08:17]  I mean, it's like she probably got invited on yachts that we can't even dream of, and she just fumbled.
[01:08:25]  Carlos, welcome to the show.
[01:08:28]  What's your thoughts on the topic?
[01:08:29]  Could Lauren Southern be redeemed?
[01:08:32]  So, I don't think she can be redeemed.

=== Woke Christianity Rejected (06:06) ===

[01:08:35]  I think she needs to like find or choose a religion.
[01:08:39]  Yeah, like either like Christianity or Muslim because if she's in Lawrence Southern Islam, oh my god, yeah, like if if she's gonna be like showing her body and doing all that, she should be like Muslim, go to three years Dagestan, forget about it, and just like have put like put on what is it, a hijab, put that on just so she's all covered up.
[01:09:03]  She tried woke Christianity.
[01:09:04]  They rejected her.
[01:09:05]  They called her a whore.
[01:09:06]  They called her a whore in Christianity.
[01:09:08]  But that's fucked up.
[01:09:11]  I said woke Christianity.
[01:09:12]  Woke Christianity.
[01:09:15]  What's the difference?
[01:09:16]  She banged too many.
[01:09:17]  She was banging everybody.
[01:09:18]  So of course they're going to call her a whore.
[01:09:20]  Yeah, Destiny.
[01:09:20]  That's a yikes.
[01:09:21]  She banged allegedly Elijah Schaefer, allegedly Angela Merle.
[01:09:26]  Here's how I look at it.
[01:09:27]  Woke Christianity is the people who like the title of being a Christian, but they're in denial about who they actually are.
[01:09:33]  They don't actually look in the mirror.
[01:09:34]  They want to be a good person, they want to feel like a good person, but they don't actually are they're not actually honest about their heart and their motivations for what they're doing, so they claim it, but they don't actually live it.
[01:09:46]  Yes, when push comes to shove, their actions don't prove what they say they believe, and they usually have a uh, this attitude of I'm morally superior to you because I'm a Christian, yeah.
[01:09:58]  So that's that's completely wrong, they're like completely missing the point.
[01:10:03]  Like, yeah, they say they believe the Bible, but when push comes to shove, that's not what happens.
[01:10:08]  I heard it expressed like this if you Call yourself a Christian when pressure is applied to you, Christ is what's supposed to come out.
[01:10:13]  His character is supposed to be revealed in you when you're put through the fire.
[01:10:17]  When pressure is applied to you, if any other character comes out of you, chances are you don't actually know him.
[01:10:25]  Yes, that makes sense.
[01:10:27]  And if you say you believe the Bible, there's a verse where Jesus says, No one is good except God.
[01:10:34]  So if you believe what he said, why are you trying to call yourself good?
[01:10:37]  Why are you saying I'm a good person?
[01:10:40]  At the end of the day, if you say you believe the Bible, it says we will all stand in judgment.
[01:10:44]  All things will be revealed.
[01:10:46]  Let me put it in simpler words there is no excuse, no justification you can make that He will not see through and call you out on.
[01:10:54]  So stop trying.
[01:10:55]  You're not going to make any excuse that sticks.
[01:10:57]  So stop trying and just be honest about who you are and the reasons what you do.
[01:11:02]  And then you have to say, think about do I have peace with myself for my reasons?
[01:11:07]  Or at the end of the day, do I not have peace about this?
[01:11:10]  And maybe I should stop doing this.
[01:11:13]  It's not saying real shit.
[01:11:15]  But with Lauren, I don't think, I don't know.
[01:11:18]  She needs, damn, he says she got rejected by the woke Christianity.
[01:11:22]  So I have no idea what she.
[01:11:26]  You know how bad it has to be if you get rejected by the woke Christians?
[01:11:29]  Yeah, that's the truth.
[01:11:30]  Like the porn stars.
[01:11:31]  Yeah, he fucked up.
[01:11:33]  Like how you get rejected by.
[01:11:35]  Look at how the woke Christians are exactly the same as the little ones.
[01:11:38]  I don't know.
[01:11:39]  You have to meet the rest of the world.
[01:11:41]  Maybe she's unsavable.
[01:11:42]  She has to keep going down the road that she's going and try to figure it out from there.
[01:11:45]  Sorry, what were you going to say, Mark?
[01:11:47]  If you look at the woke Christians, they're no different than the liberals.
[01:11:51]  You have to meet their idea of morality.
[01:11:53]  You have to check all the boxes.
[01:11:55]  If you fail one, you are dead to them.
[01:11:58]  You have no value.
[01:11:59]  You're worse than anyone else.
[01:12:01]  Look how, on the liberal side, they eat anyone who doesn't check all the boxes, who doesn't bend the knee to every single part of their ideology.
[01:12:10]  You say, I don't quite agree with that.
[01:12:12]  They turn and attack you.
[01:12:13]  It's the same exact mentality.
[01:12:15]  People who are in denial about their own psychology.
[01:12:18]  Who are in denial about their need for validation, which is why they choose to be part of a group.
[01:12:24]  They don't have to think of character in their own way.
[01:12:27]  The left and woke Christians, you're never woke enough.
[01:12:30]  There's always some new, every couple of months, every news cycle, there's some new layer to be woke by.
[01:12:37]  And if you're not that, if you don't keep going with the woke, they're going to eat you alive.
[01:12:42]  Woke Christianity, the same way.
[01:12:44]  If you're a Christian, but you have to accept all sorts of levels of degeneracy, and there's no.
[01:12:51]  There's no level to stop.
[01:12:52]  So you may stop at a certain point.
[01:12:55]  The rest of the woke is going to keep going.
[01:12:57]  And if you don't go along with them, well, then you're screwed.
[01:13:00]  Yeah.
[01:13:03]  They say, well, you have to show them grace.
[01:13:05]  Grace is, I understand what you're doing.
[01:13:08]  So I'm not going to blame you, but I will hold you accountable.
[01:13:11]  Right.
[01:13:12]  I heard this term.
[01:13:13]  It's called ruthless compassion.
[01:13:15]  I'm so compassionate for you for the hurt you're causing to yourself.
[01:13:18]  I'm going to call you out on all of your bullshit and hold you accountable for it.
[01:13:22]  I'm not going to let it slide.
[01:13:24]  I'm not going to let you give any excuse or justification.
[01:13:27]  I'm going to hold you accountable because at the end of the day, you're hurting yourself.
[01:13:32]  That is what a better explanation of grace is.
[01:13:34]  We're like, hey, you don't deserve forgiveness, yeah, because you're trying to compare yourself to somebody who's perfect God, but He forgives you.
[01:13:42]  The only thing He asks is to admit that you need help.
[01:13:46]  If you refuse to admit that you need help fixing yourself, nobody can help you.
[01:13:51]  If you can't be honest with yourself, nobody can help you.
[01:13:57]  Now, again, PMD, about that.
[01:13:59]  Yeah.
[01:13:59]  I had a little journey with that.
[01:14:01]  I agree.
[01:14:02]  And here's the thing about the woke, here's the thing about Christianity it has tenets.
[01:14:07]  You choose to be a Christian, you choose to go by those rules.
[01:14:11]  So I don't know why you would choose to call yourself a Christian, but then not do exactly what Mark is saying.
[01:14:19]  It's laid out.
[01:14:20]  If you make the choice to identify as you have to obey the rules, and he's giving you step one, two, three, four, five right now on the stream.
[01:14:29]  Understand what I'm saying?
[01:14:30]  Like, nice and easy.
[01:14:31]  So, yeah, yeah, I agree with him 100%.
[01:14:35]  Speaking about biblical Christianity, I was thinking about this topic a few days ago.
[01:14:39]  What does God actually want from humanity?

=== Choosing Character Over Benefits (06:27) ===

[01:14:41]  And I arrived at this understanding He wants the emotional reward of people choosing to be loyal to Him because of His character.
[01:14:50]  Look at the emotional reward a father has when his children choose to trust Him and be loyal to Him because they've seen His character.
[01:14:58]  Look at the emotional reward that a husband has when a wife.
[01:15:02]  Says, I have all these options.
[01:15:04]  I'm going to say no to all of them because I'm going to choose you because of your character.
[01:15:09]  That emotional reward, that emotional fulfillment, it hits us men so deep that there's nothing else that compares to it.
[01:15:18]  And that's what God desires from us, where we look at Him and we choose.
[01:15:23]  We're not forced.
[01:15:24]  We're not brainwashed.
[01:15:26]  We're not manipulated.
[01:15:27]  We're not controlled.
[01:15:28]  We choose voluntarily because we see His character and we admire His character so much, we choose to be loyal.
[01:15:35]  And if you look at the dating market, a lot of men, they're looking for that.
[01:15:40]  They want to be chosen based on their character, but they're looking at the wrong type of women who will actually look at character.
[01:15:48]  They're prioritizing beauty and sex, not character in the woman.
[01:15:52]  And that's why these women, you keep running into the same scenario playing out.
[01:15:57]  These women are entitled and ungrateful.
[01:15:59]  They don't appreciate the man for his character.
[01:16:02]  That's why it always ends the same way.
[01:16:05]  I don't think, yeah.
[01:16:06]  Can I ask a question?
[01:16:08]  I don't think that's exclusive to beauty, though.
[01:16:11]  I think that that's 50, 60 years of feminism.
[01:16:14]  Feminism teaches women don't go.
[01:16:16]  Because remember, it's about women telling themselves they don't need a man.
[01:16:21]  Character is what a woman needs, right?
[01:16:24]  These women feel they don't need a man.
[01:16:26]  So now we're neck deep in women that are trying to get what they want.
[01:16:29]  We all know that what women want is bad, what women need is good.
[01:16:34]  So I don't think it's just a beauty problem.
[01:16:36]  I think it's from the uggos to the pretty ones.
[01:16:39]  The character is not even in the equation, Sean.
[01:16:42]  Go ahead, yeah.
[01:16:43]  I wanted to ask him, uh, like what percentage of women do you think in the United States today, of let's say dating and marriageable age, do you think actually have good, intact character?
[01:16:55]  If you have to be very honest, because you're basically saying men need to look for these women, but you know, I've looked here and there, I really don't see them anywhere.
[01:17:04]  Most men who do get married are just you know making their devil's bargain with the best that they can find and just calling it at that point.
[01:17:11]  And at least the smart ones say, I'm probably not going to get it anyways.
[01:17:14]  So, I better get at least good quality ass.
[01:17:15]  Like, I don't blame those guys.
[01:17:17]  I don't either.
[01:17:18]  I don't either.
[01:17:19]  I get it.
[01:17:20]  What percentage?
[01:17:22]  I have no idea.
[01:17:23]  I'd be pulling a number out of thin air.
[01:17:25]  I don't know what the percentage is.
[01:17:26]  Do they exist?
[01:17:28]  Technically, yes.
[01:17:29]  Realistically, you're probably not going to find one.
[01:17:31]  You're going to have to build her.
[01:17:32]  You're going to have to find a woman who respects you enough that she'll put in the work to listen to you and you can build up her character.
[01:17:39]  Pearl said in one of her other videos that chances are, statistically speaking, most men are going to have to marry a reformed whore.
[01:17:46]  So, us men, we have to decide.
[01:17:48]  Is she worth the work it's going to take to get her all the way?
[01:17:53]  Does she show enough promise?
[01:17:55]  And does she respect me enough to put in the work when I'm holding her accountable to not crash out, but to actually listen and understand?
[01:18:02]  I'm not being controlling.
[01:18:04]  I just see the best possible version of her she hasn't achieved yet.
[01:18:07]  If she doesn't see that in you, walk away.
[01:18:10]  It's not even worth your time.
[01:18:12]  A lot of men are going to other countries because they realize that the juice is not worth the squeeze here in America because of how deep feminism has corrupted the mindset.
[01:18:22]  So, then what should men do going forward?
[01:18:25]  Are you like passports or something?
[01:18:26]  Do you think they, like on this channel, we always say that you should find some Ukrainian refugee whose village was bombed by the Russians?
[01:18:36]  They're desperate, they'll fake it.
[01:18:39]  Hey, you know what?
[01:18:40]  I always say.
[01:18:40]  I'm Ukrainian.
[01:18:42]  My parents immigrated from the Soviet Union right before it fell apart.
[01:18:45]  I know that culture.
[01:18:46]  They've got feminism.
[01:18:48]  It looks different, but they've got it too.
[01:18:50]  Oh, really?
[01:18:51]  I grew up still fighting in my family.
[01:18:54]  Doug, I keep telling you, you got to stop buying the stream of the passport.
[01:18:59]  Trust me, all the countries.
[01:19:01]  No, I keep saying, because, come on, listen to this, right?
[01:19:06]  So, okay.
[01:19:09]  Most men are never going to get genuine desire and genuine sex from a woman in the West, ever, right?
[01:19:15]  So, hold on.
[01:19:16]  So, the next best thing would be you have to have something that that woman needs badly enough, maybe something that'll change her life, right?
[01:19:26]  So, if you marry a woman and bring her over three years for her to get a green card and citizenship, right?
[01:19:34]  She will be traditional, cook, clean, screw you like she needs a green card, right?
[01:19:41]  And even if she dips out after that, you'll get a taste of a life that most men in the West and most American men will never get, ever.
[01:19:50]  I want a green card sex is sex that most men will never get in the West.
[01:19:56]  Okay, that's true.
[01:19:58]  But at the end of the day, are you going to have peace with yourself?
[01:20:03]  You know, she did not choose you for you.
[01:20:06]  She chose you for your benefits that you provided to her.
[01:20:10]  Women do that anyway.
[01:20:11]  On a long enough timeframe, that's all women.
[01:20:13]  That's all women, bro.
[01:20:14]  On a long enough timeframe, that's all women.
[01:20:16]  Maybe for some guys, it feels like that for the first three years, first five, maybe 10 if they're lucky.
[01:20:21]  On a long enough time frame, it is all women, it's all transactional, bro.
[01:20:27]  See, I want to highlight something uh huh.
[01:20:29]  This wanting because of benefits versus wanting for character.
[01:20:33]  All of you can now relate to what God experienced.
[01:20:36]  There's a story when God brings Israel out of Egypt, and then they're grumbling, they're not thankful for what He did for them, for who He was to them, that He was faithful, He kept His promises.
[01:20:47]  They're grumbling about what they don't have.
[01:20:49]  So, that sense of entitlement, not being appreciative for who you are.
[01:20:53]  All of us men who've experienced it, psychologically, we can all relate to God.
[01:20:57]  He knows that feeling.
[01:21:00]  So, we're all dealing with it.
[01:21:02]  So, we can look at how he dealt with it.
[01:21:05]  He said, Okay, fine, I'm going to let you learn the hard way.

=== Long-Term Transactional Relationships (08:41) ===

[01:21:08]  Yeah.
[01:21:09]  He did it multiple times.
[01:21:10]  When people become entitled, ungrateful, and disobedient to the rules given to them to protect them from harm, he says, Fine, I'm going to let you learn the hard way.
[01:21:20]  That's why there's the historical record in the Bible where it says God allowed their enemies to oppress Israel until they changed their mind about their behavior and realized, Hey, our behavior caused this.
[01:21:31]  This is our own consequences.
[01:21:33]  We need to own up to it.
[01:21:34]  And then, when they realized it, he would come and help them.
[01:21:38]  So, us here in the West, this is why MGTOW is working in a way.
[01:21:42]  You see that there are women who are starting to complain that their bad behavior is not being rewarded.
[01:21:47]  They're no longer getting the attention they wanted because men are waking up saying, this isn't working.
[01:21:54]  You know, past pro pros have a higher chance of success if they're going to places where there's no feminism or there's less feminism.
[01:22:00]  But at the same time, there's no guarantee for success.
[01:22:04]  At the same time, we men have to own up to the fact there's no guarantee of success.
[01:22:09]  No matter how hard you work, she still has the option to leave.
[01:22:12]  It is what it is.
[01:22:13]  That's why the loyalty when she does choose you is so much more rewarding because you see she has options and she turns them down for you.
[01:22:21]  That's why it's so rewarding.
[01:22:23]  Yeah.
[01:22:24]  If she didn't have options, would it really be as rewarding when she chose you?
[01:22:28]  Would you really know she's loyal to you if she's never been tested?
[01:22:31]  Yeah.
[01:22:31]  If you look at the biblical story, loyal to Pearl.
[01:22:34]  Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
[01:22:36]  Yeah, hold on.
[01:22:37]  I'm going to read the super chats.
[01:22:39]  Okay, so I watch Pearl as much time as I have time to watch other stuff I find interesting.
[01:22:43]  Anyone want to give a basic synopsis about the issue?
[01:22:46]  I know it's a big convo, but I'm trying to understand the intrigue.
[01:22:50]  Just another e girl is crashing out, and we're asking the question of what could she do to be redeemed?
[01:22:57]  So that's the question.
[01:22:59]  So, first of all, Pretty much Lauren Southern was an e girl, had the world at her fingertips.
[01:23:04]  She tried to be trad.
[01:23:06]  She, you know, she the whole Trump thing now she's trying to act like a victim because she could, she can't get what she wants.
[01:23:14]  And she pretty much screwed herself up.
[01:23:17]  She's over, she's a single mom that slept with destiny.
[01:23:20]  We're talking about the best steps for a redemption for a girl like her.
[01:23:24]  That's what we're talking about.
[01:23:25]  Uh, thanks for calling in, Mark.
[01:23:27]  I appreciate it.
[01:23:28]  You had some good insights.
[01:23:32]  He had some good insights, but I'm trying to stick more on the what does Lauren Southern need to do?
[01:23:38]  Same thing as Ashley St. Clair, right?
[01:23:40]  I know.
[01:23:40]  Why does she get a space baby?
[01:23:43]  Exactly.
[01:23:44]  That's a good idea.
[01:23:45]  I mean, to be honest, that's what they do, right?
[01:23:47]  They pivot when they feel like the political tides are turning, right?
[01:23:50]  I can't wait till Candace Owens goes back to the left.
[01:23:53]  That'll eventually happen.
[01:23:56]  Right now, she's on the Alex Jones side.
[01:23:57]  She's not even on the right anymore.
[01:23:59]  The question is when Trump goes away and MAGA becomes less popular, where does she then go?
[01:24:04]  Because, in order to stay relevant in the social media space, you can't really stick with the same shtick forever, right?
[01:24:11]  You kind of have to pivot and you kind of have to move.
[01:24:14]  That's really how the folks stay relevant for the most part, unless they're doing political news.
[01:24:19]  RJ, welcome to the show.
[01:24:20]  Can Lauren Southern be redeemed?
[01:24:23]  Oh, there's always going to be a guy who's going to take her.
[01:24:26]  So, I mean, yeah.
[01:24:31]  So, what would your plan of action be?
[01:24:37]  For her, um, she came to you our day and said, What's my next steps?
[01:24:43]  What are your plans?
[01:24:44]  I'd say the Hoda Christ pipeline that would be the best for her.
[01:24:51]  Oh, so you're saying to find God.
[01:24:53]  So, what religion would you tell her to join?
[01:24:55]  Who do you think would take her?
[01:24:57]  I'd say Pentecostal, charismatic.
[01:25:00]  A lot of those would take her.
[01:25:01]  Like, consider Brittany Delamora.
[01:25:03]  Like, it's been pretty all over X. You know, she's now become a pastor.
[01:25:08]  I even saw your podcast with her, and she was always saying, Oh, this guy used me, this guy used me.
[01:25:14]  And you questioned her, You know, what about you taking responsibility?
[01:25:17]  So, she's going to find somebody in the Pentecostal sphere who'd be like, Oh, yeah, those guys used you, and I'll be a good father.
[01:25:24]  I'll love you.
[01:25:24]  I'll love you sacrificially like Christ.
[01:25:26]  I will lead you.
[01:25:27]  And she'll still get the media, everybody following her because look at her.
[01:25:34]  She found Christ.
[01:25:35]  She's a genuine woman.
[01:25:36]  The husband will get some pity sex.
[01:25:38]  And then at least the kid will have some sort of a father.
[01:25:42]  Do you think there's any benefit to her doing like the quote unquote right thing, like taking accountability, getting off the internet?
[01:25:50]  Do you think there's any benefit?
[01:25:54]  There is benefit, like I too am a Christian, so I do come at morally.
[01:25:58]  I'd say there is a benefit, obviously, there is an eternity, but the likelihood I don't think she will.
[01:26:03]  Um, obviously, she's been with Andrew Tay, she's been with that, like it'd have to be like a sort of an Apostle Paul meeting on the Damascus Road, and then she goes away.
[01:26:13]  So, I mean, eternally, yes, there is a benefit.
[01:26:16]  I'll never say no to that.
[01:26:18]  Um, but in reality, the likelihood, it's like, let's be serious, like she's she's hit the pinnacle, like she's had the fame, she's she went all over Europe.
[01:26:29]  She got not allowed to go back to the UK.
[01:26:33]  That's a lot of clout.
[01:26:34]  So, yeah.
[01:26:36]  You know, I kind of disagree with that because you've seen women that you can call, quote unquote, conservative or what have you, who've made their comeback, right?
[01:26:43]  Like, look at Don Jr.'s ex wife, right?
[01:26:46]  She's now dating Tiger Woods.
[01:26:48]  So, she's dating a guy even more famous.
[01:26:50]  Look at, you know, I don't know her politics, but look at Lauren Sanchez.
[01:26:54]  She went from dating a, you know, a sports athlete to then a, I think, a rich guy, and then, you know, had a baby with him, and then now.
[01:27:02]  Jeff Bezos.
[01:27:03]  So I think if she's motivated, I'm saying she should probably get a pasta.
[01:27:08]  That's what I'm saying.
[01:27:09]  I'm not saying just get a regular guy.
[01:27:10]  I'm saying she could get a pasta.
[01:27:12]  Like, who would you?
[01:27:14]  Are there any famous people you could think of that you'd say get him?
[01:27:19]  Yeah, there's this guy in Australia.
[01:27:25]  I forget his name.
[01:27:26]  He's like a Kiwi bloke and he's got a wife.
[01:27:29]  She's white, she's pregnant, and like she's a pastor and stuff like that.
[01:27:34]  She'd get along with him well.
[01:27:37]  Even though she's already married.
[01:27:39]  What's his name?
[01:27:40]  I'll Google it.
[01:27:41]  For the life of me, I don't have her name.
[01:27:43]  She's been on.
[01:27:46]  They've been, I think, on a podcast with Bruce Lynn.
[01:27:50]  He's got glasses, he's got like that broccoli hair top.
[01:27:54]  Who here has woman fatigue?
[01:27:56]  Yeah, I do.
[01:27:58]  I think we all do.
[01:28:00]  If you remember his name, tell me.
[01:28:02]  I'll show the chat.
[01:28:03]  Pearl is large.
[01:28:05]  Amanda, call in.
[01:28:06]  Chica, call in or shut up if you're going to talk shit in the chat.
[01:28:12]  Call him.
[01:28:13]  We can have a nice convo.
[01:28:16]  I think Lauren Southern can make her comeback by coming back and dating Nick F.
[01:28:20]  That would be awesome.
[01:28:21]  No, Nick wouldn't do it.
[01:28:23]  No way.
[01:28:23]  She's too gone.
[01:28:26]  Maybe she gets somebody a little less red pilled.
[01:28:29]  Who's blue pilled and conservative?
[01:28:30]  Maybe her and Elijah Schaefer could find each other.
[01:28:35]  I actually want Sarah Stock and Elijah Schaefer to work it out at this rate.
[01:28:43]  Who else?
[01:28:43]  Maybe her and Milo can have a lavender marriage.
[01:28:48]  Milo Yiannopoulos.
[01:28:50]  Oh, yeah, right.
[01:28:52]  They could have like a lavender marriage, conservative media, then.
[01:28:57]  Let's see.
[01:28:59]  Do you think she'd have to go right wing, or do you think, like, could she go left wing?
[01:29:04]  What if, like, she goes.
[01:29:05]  She won't work for too long.
[01:29:06]  What?
[01:29:07]  She plays victim.
[01:29:08]  That's really.
[01:29:08]  I would say you wouldn't work for too long if she goes left wing.
[01:29:12]  If you want the long run, the long run has to be right wing.
[01:29:16]  Because at least you can have, you'll always have those who will, from morality's sake, Come and say there is hope, there is redemption, there is that for the left.
[01:29:26]  It's like degeneracy, whatever, do whatever you want, whatever you will.
[01:29:29]  Whereas from the right, it's you have, there is that basis of foundational morality.
[01:29:34]  So you always have those guys like, no, there is, there is, there is.
[01:29:37]  And obviously, it is logically correct, but it's she's not doing it the right way.
[01:29:43]  So you will always have that.
[01:29:44]  So I'd say my opinion, two cents first.
[01:29:47]  Why should you call in for free?

=== Why Right Wing Is the Only Option (15:51) ===

[01:29:50]  Who are you?
[01:29:51]  It's like women.
[01:29:52]  Women are so incredible.
[01:29:53]  It's incredible that you think your time is worth anything.
[01:29:57]  Yeah.
[01:29:58]  Like, in terms of media, like, it'd be one thing if you were like a waitress, but it's like amazing that you think you should be paid for what you have to say.
[01:30:08]  Like, you know, it's just, you know, even Grant Cardone, who's a billionaire, didn't ask me to pay him to come on my show.
[01:30:17]  It's just.
[01:30:17]  Hey, look, thanks for having me up.
[01:30:18]  I've got to get back to work.
[01:30:20]  Thank you.
[01:30:20]  Carl, anytime, buddy.
[01:30:24]  Like, you think you're better than a billionaire?
[01:30:26]  Like, do you see the ego on these women?
[01:30:28]  Pay me.
[01:30:29]  It's like, who are you?
[01:30:31]  Man, you know what I noticed?
[01:30:33]  Like, most women get in trouble because they run their mouth, versus guys are more like respectful towards other people who they kind of deal with.
[01:30:41]  I've noticed that.
[01:30:42]  Like, I don't know if you've noticed that, Pearl, on your sort of your live stream that whenever the guys are calling in, they're they always kind of take turns.
[01:30:51]  They don't really over talk, different things like that.
[01:30:54]  But it's almost like all the girls have this like innate sense of entitlement that they can over talk you or they can be disrespectful or they treat it like it's their own show, whether it's Lila or that fat feminist chick or whoever, right?
[01:31:07]  Yeah, if anything, the conservative women are worse because they've never had anyone tell them no ever.
[01:31:13]  That's interesting.
[01:31:14]  Do you think it's like, because you grew up Catholic, did you see a lot of that in the church?
[01:31:19]  It's like some of the pastors didn't tell the women to shut the F up?
[01:31:22]  Oh, God, they would never.
[01:31:24]  It's everywhere because in the school system, it's mostly women that are like the principals and stuff.
[01:31:30]  Like, even a lot of the people working in like the administration and the like, not necessarily, because you have to understand, I went to a Catholic middle school, but there was a church attached.
[01:31:41]  So, like, yeah, they could say, okay, the church, like the only people in leadership in the Catholic church are men, but like, You have far more influence if you're the principal of like all the kids that are going to the church or like the like I forgot what they're called like the school board meetings you know what I mean?
[01:31:59]  Um, then like that's far more influence on your life than like the church once a week.
[01:32:06]  I don't know if that makes sense, but oh, okay, I see.
[01:32:09]  You know, sometimes I wonder if like you know, if you go to like poor countries, the women behave much better because the men basically treat them like shit.
[01:32:18]  Like, I sometimes kind of wonder.
[01:32:20]  If that's like a biological drive, if you just treat women like a little bit, they'll actually behave much better, ironically, versus if you hold them on a pedestal, they actually treat you worse.
[01:32:30]  Well, so here's the thing in third world countries, well, interactions between men and women are just like how can I put this here?
[01:32:41]  It's like parenting in a third world country is a lot more strict and there's a lot more ass whipping going on because you have to get stuff done.
[01:32:48]  It's you versus the environment and survival.
[01:32:51]  You don't have time to doctor fill it and say, now little Billy.
[01:32:55]  Why did you do that?
[01:32:56]  Parents from third world countries whoop ass.
[01:32:59]  And that's the same thing with men and women.
[01:33:01]  Like, you, a third world country, it's about survival.
[01:33:05]  You don't have time, all this emotional labor, all this garbage.
[01:33:09]  That's a first world problem.
[01:33:11]  When men and women have to survive against the environment and all that, you don't have time for all that crap.
[01:33:17]  But what I mean is, like, I think the women like being treated like shit.
[01:33:20]  It's almost like they behave better because of it.
[01:33:22]  And if you notice, like, who do women go for when they're young?
[01:33:25]  They go for assholes, right?
[01:33:27]  So you can almost kind of say, even though we're in a first world country, women still want a guy to treat them like shit from time to time.
[01:33:33]  That's the only time they really behave like relatively well.
[01:33:37]  You get what I'm saying?
[01:33:38]  Yeah, because it's signaling higher status because your boss can talk to you like shit.
[01:33:43]  Oh, that's so true.
[01:33:44]  But your co worker can't.
[01:33:47]  So, like, a lot of times, like, what women select for, it's just behaviors that signal higher status.
[01:33:53]  Like, if you're constantly worried about if I'm okay, that's low status.
[01:33:57]  That's so true.
[01:33:58]  But that tells you, right?
[01:33:59]  That's how Lauren Southern can redeem herself.
[01:34:01]  She needs like an Andrew Tate, a Dan Bolzerian, like some guy who's going to treat her a little like shit and put her down so that she can kind of become a better woman in the long run.
[01:34:10]  I'm sorry, I accidentally bumped you guys.
[01:34:13]  I was just looking at the right wing conservative men and trying to see who came up.
[01:34:17]  There's anyone we could pair her with.
[01:34:22]  I'm not.
[01:34:23]  Maybe we should go for an older guy like this.
[01:34:26]  You know, he'd be happy to take a girl, a single mom with herpes.
[01:34:29]  You know what I mean?
[01:34:30]  I mean, I don't know who this is, but.
[01:34:32]  Like, you know, a guy that looks like this?
[01:34:34]  There you go, Lauren.
[01:34:42]  Yeah, I think you're right.
[01:34:43]  You know, the next conservative rich guy who gets divorced or whatever it is, like, she'll probably pair up with that guy.
[01:34:49]  It's also too the low status behaviors.
[01:34:53]  Like, a lot of times nicer guys aren't actually nice because they're not being honest about what they want.
[01:35:01]  Like, they're not bold.
[01:35:02]  Like, they're too scared.
[01:35:03]  They're not bold enough to say what they want and tell you no.
[01:35:07]  When a lot of times they think it, but they don't say it.
[01:35:10]  You know what I'm saying?
[01:35:11]  So, yeah, that's true, but I think it's because they lack options.
[01:35:14]  You know what I mean?
[01:35:14]  Like, if you lack options and that's the only girl, you kind of feel like if I say something wrong, then I'm with no girl.
[01:35:20]  Versus the guys who usually treat the girls bad, they kind of already have other girls surrounding them.
[01:35:24]  They have other girls orbiting them.
[01:35:26]  You know what I mean?
[01:35:26]  Yeah.
[01:35:27]  It's almost like they can be emboldened to be a little bit more dickish.
[01:35:30]  Is it ever possible for women to be better?
[01:35:32]  No.
[01:35:35]  I mean, miracles happen, but I wouldn't bet on it.
[01:35:38]  Redemption, more like, peace out, bitch, and let her be a tumbleweed if she moves out of the way.
[01:35:44]  No, she's just graduated into.
[01:35:47]  Look, there's always chads that have like an archetype of women they go for.
[01:35:52]  So there's chads, like she's got like allegedly the herp, right?
[01:35:56]  There's chads that run through the herp women because they got it too, right?
[01:35:59]  And then that's the giga chad that's going to go through that.
[01:36:02]  There's chads that they find, you know, there's a guy, I guess, in Texas, in Dallas, there's this trail called the Katie Trail.
[01:36:09]  I guess his thing is he picks up single moms on the Katie Trail.
[01:36:14]  That's it.
[01:36:14]  He's like, he eyes for women in that bracket.
[01:36:18]  And was like, oh, they're on discount.
[01:36:20]  That's way easier.
[01:36:21]  He might prefer the 20-something-year-old, but if he's already got a little system that works on that age, they'll just keep going.
[01:36:28]  So she's in the, she's going to graduate.
[01:36:32]  Now she's out of the guys that go for the young women.
[01:36:35]  Now she's in the used car market, right?
[01:36:38]  And someone's going to do it, right?
[01:36:40]  If we were in the used car market, you know, there's some problems.
[01:36:44]  It's like they're kind of used to buying used cars, so they know what the issues are going to be under the hood.
[01:36:51]  And, um, The best used cars will get bought, which probably isn't going to be her because there's no humility.
[01:36:58]  She can't take a lowering of the buyers, right?
[01:37:02]  Zero humility, none.
[01:37:05]  It's just incredible how little humility there is in this situation.
[01:37:09]  It's just so good luck, Lauren.
[01:37:13]  Welcome, Mario, to the show.
[01:37:15]  Can Lauren Southern be redeemed?
[01:37:17]  And if so, how would you tell her to do it?
[01:37:20]  No.
[01:37:21]  You're going to be redeemed.
[01:37:23]  Hoes are going to be hoes.
[01:37:24]  She's a single mother.
[01:37:26]  She, no, no.
[01:37:27]  She couldn't make it out in her marriage with the man that she was with.
[01:37:31]  There's no saving her.
[01:37:32]  I'm sorry.
[01:37:33]  No.
[01:37:33]  But someone's going to do it.
[01:37:34]  I just might do it as well.
[01:37:36]  Someone's going to do it.
[01:37:36]  I mean, yeah, someone will.
[01:37:37]  But it's sent mentality.
[01:37:40]  Fuck that.
[01:37:41]  No.
[01:37:41]  Like, no.
[01:37:43]  We're going to change the mentality around here in America where we choose single mothers over women that don't have kids.
[01:37:51]  Well, unfortunately, yeah, I'm not here to sell hope.
[01:37:57]  So I like.
[01:37:57]  To kill all the dreams, somebody's gonna do it, yeah, 100%.
[01:38:01]  You know, she's at the end of the day, most women are fat, most guys are single mom who's not fat.
[01:38:08]  And then, even if and like Andrew Tate or somebody goes out there and embarrasses her, she's still gonna do the same thing, she's not gonna learn from her lessons.
[01:38:15]  Most women learn from her lessons.
[01:38:17]  Well, you probably let him hit again, yeah, my bad.
[01:38:22]  And here's the thing Lauren Southern, because once again, guys, she could have she's Lauren Southern's look is why Tommy Lauren got plastic surgery.
[01:38:33]  Like Lauren Southern is like the prototypical conservative e girl looks archetype.
[01:38:41]  So I don't know how she crashed and burned so hard.
[01:38:44]  Like, how?
[01:38:45]  Why?
[01:38:47]  I don't get it.
[01:38:48]  How did she get here?
[01:38:51]  She flew too close to the sun because she could have, you know, gone for the marriage minded guys, but they're not as exciting.
[01:38:59]  So she banged Tate and then was like, oh no, I got pumped and dumped when he's pumped and dumped a thousand other girls, literally.
[01:39:08]  Literally, oh, how did this happen?
[01:39:11]  You know, it's like, and now she's bitter.
[01:39:16]  And then she says, oh, it's because I was young.
[01:39:18]  I just want some honesty.
[01:39:20]  It's like, all right, you went for these guys that were exciting.
[01:39:25]  That is why you went for them.
[01:39:26]  You did not get coerced.
[01:39:28]  You gluck, gluck, 9,000 because it was fun to do and they were exciting.
[01:39:32]  Point in case.
[01:39:34]  That's it.
[01:39:35]  That's what happened.
[01:39:36]  And, you know, there's winners and losers in this game.
[01:39:38]  And every guy you go for, there's like a percent chance you're going to lock him down.
[01:39:43]  And you just picked like a 1% chance.
[01:39:45]  You picked the lottery of lockdowns.
[01:39:48]  Like, that's probably, that's never, that's actually never, actually, the guys you picked, nobody gets them.
[01:39:54]  Like, they're for the streets forever.
[01:39:58]  And instead of having some humility and saying, you know what, I played the lottery and I lost, she just kept, you know, kept going.
[01:40:05]  So, yeah, I mean, I 100% agree with that.
[01:40:08]  Like, most women are not looking to have their happy, In the ever after, even if they have to make a few sacrifices, they want the emotional thrills and the high.
[01:40:17]  And as soon as guys can just get their head wrapped around that, because we tend to think very systematically, like we're headed towards a goal and we got to do step A, step B, we got to do things right to get all the way to where we want to go.
[01:40:28]  We think women think the same way.
[01:40:30]  And the reality is they don't.
[01:40:32]  They like the emotional ups and downs.
[01:40:34]  They like the roller coaster.
[01:40:35]  They like the unpredictability.
[01:40:37]  Whether this thing is going to crash and burn or make it all the way, they don't care.
[01:40:41]  They're just in it for the ride.
[01:40:43]  And as soon as guys can get their head wrapped around that, That'll simplify things as to why things happen the way they do, which is this is exactly what she wanted, you know.
[01:40:52]  And now she's going to be off to the next high.
[01:40:53]  That's what it is.
[01:40:55]  Yeah, I agree 100%.
[01:40:58]  Yeah, it's so yeah.
[01:41:00]  Now she'll enter the there's a guy on that's on the market for used e girls.
[01:41:05]  I don't know who it is, right?
[01:41:07]  But she'll find a guy that's on the market for some used e girls and, you know, and she'll get her high from there.
[01:41:16]  So the natural order.
[01:41:20]  Well, yeah, that is the natural order, but we're in hell on earth, so no moss.
[01:41:28]  What?
[01:41:30]  No, we're definitely living in a different time now.
[01:41:33]  It wasn't like it was like 70 years ago or even 30 years ago when the internet was just coming out and nobody really knew about the internet.
[01:41:43]  The dating market has definitely changed, especially since I was single.
[01:41:50]  Yeah.
[01:41:51]  Thanks for calling in, Mario.
[01:41:53]  Appreciate you.
[01:41:53]  Oh, it's good having you on, man.
[01:41:56]  He's always a good call.
[01:41:58]  Yeah.
[01:42:02]  Well, you know, she could do what Mikayla Peterson did.
[01:42:08]  She found a younger guy that was like a fitness dude.
[01:42:12]  And Mikayla Peterson was kind of clever.
[01:42:14]  Her husband used to be fat.
[01:42:16]  That's a perfect time to go in.
[01:42:18]  He has no idea how Chad like he is, he has no idea what he could get.
[01:42:21]  So she like found a guy who just lost all the weight.
[01:42:25]  And then, you know, he gets this hot single mom.
[01:42:28]  And it's like, I don't mind a kid, but he doesn't have the dating experience and the life experience to know just how bad of a choice that was.
[01:42:35]  Right.
[01:42:36]  100%.
[01:42:37]  I mean, that was intelligent.
[01:42:39]  I mean, Michaela, hats off to a smart girl.
[01:42:44]  You know what's funny?
[01:42:45]  Rollo Tomasi did a segment with her where he kept telling her, like, you know, you're not going to find anyone, right?
[01:42:52]  And look at her now.
[01:42:53]  She's like, nah, I pulled it off.
[01:42:56]  Yeah.
[01:42:57]  Well, he said, I think he was kind of right because he said, anyone your age or older.
[01:43:03]  And he was a younger guy.
[01:43:05]  But yeah, no.
[01:43:06]  I mean, she could still.
[01:43:08]  What I would have done, I think the younger guy was a decent strategy, but if you wanted a more, I guess, quote unquote, traditional, I would have gone for, I would have said you go like 10 to 20 years older, divorced guy.
[01:43:20]  If he's like 50, I mean, they don't really give a shit anymore.
[01:43:25]  As long as he's still got kids, too.
[01:43:27]  If they have no kids, then they're done with it.
[01:43:31]  Yeah, but I think Michaela wants someone who she can show off on Instagram like every other girl.
[01:43:35]  Yeah, and control.
[01:43:38]  So true.
[01:43:38]  He's going to be miserable long term.
[01:43:40]  Definitely.
[01:43:41]  If he's not already miserable.
[01:43:43]  I mean, I couldn't even believe the thirst trap she put with her kids.
[01:43:48]  I'm like, Michaela, this is bad.
[01:43:50]  Like, you gotta let this go, my gal.
[01:43:56]  But you know, that's the reality.
[01:43:58]  You know, all these e girls, they, you know, it's kind of what I said, right?
[01:44:01]  The worst thing a girl can be called in conservative media is invisible.
[01:44:06]  You know, any visibility is good visibility in their eyes.
[01:44:09]  Like, look at this.
[01:44:10]  I mean, that's like Chad Light.
[01:44:13]  Rolo's like, you're going to die alone.
[01:44:16]  She's like, I'll show you, buddy.
[01:44:19]  You know what I mean?
[01:44:20]  It's like.
[01:44:24]  Don't have a revenge fantasy because if they're attractive, somebody's going to do it.
[01:44:30]  You know what I mean?
[01:44:31]  So, you know, Tia Mowry, she was the one that said that she divorced Corey Hardwick and said that she graduated from her marriage or whatever.
[01:44:39]  You see the guy she's with right now?
[01:44:42]  It's like her.
[01:44:44]  Some art teacher assistant at her daughter's school.
[01:44:48]  This guy's like a total, he's like 34.
[01:44:51]  He's like an up and coming artist slash rapper, something or other.
[01:44:56]  What's his name?
[01:44:56]  I'm going to Google it.
[01:44:58]  Just type into Tia Mowry, T I A, and then M O W E R Y, and new boyfriend.
[01:45:07]  So, her, she was just with her husband.
[01:45:10]  You know, she was a virgin when they got married, and then she tried to say that she didn't get, she didn't live enough life or whatever.
[01:45:16]  So, and then everyone was making fun of her because she was worth more than Corey Hardrick, although he was Hollywood too.
[01:45:22]  Now she's with this total.
[01:45:26]  Yeah.
[01:45:27]  Now she's what?
[01:45:28]  Now he's like a, so she's 40, what, 47?
[01:45:34]  And he's like 35.
[01:45:37]  Art teacher, assistant, up and coming, like wannabe rapper, or something like that.

=== Women Prefer Drama to Stability (06:12) ===

[01:45:42]  Yeah, but in girl world, that's like better.
[01:45:44]  Like it doesn't make any sense, but like in girl world, like women prefer.
[01:45:50]  So like guys will see this and be like, oh, that's a total downgrade.
[01:45:54]  But like in girl world, that's more exciting and that's an upgrade.
[01:45:58]  No, it makes no sense, right?
[01:46:00]  But it's like, it's because a lot of times what men do is they judge things on the male, like.
[01:46:08]  Point of view, so they'll say, Oh, like that's a total downgrade because he's a loser or whatever.
[01:46:13]  But it's like women prefer losers than rich men with money because that's who we pick when we're young.
[01:46:21]  Obviously, we want it all, you know, but unfortunately, and she just must like the dreads or whatever.
[01:46:31]  That's her thing, yeah.
[01:46:35]  You know, I think that's kind of how it is.
[01:46:38]  Do you think this thing where celebrity women or women in general?
[01:46:41]  Being with younger guys is ever going to stick or is this going to be a phase?
[01:46:45]  No, it'll keep going.
[01:46:46]  I mean, really?
[01:46:48]  Oh, yeah.
[01:46:49]  I mean, there's going to be age gaps on both sides.
[01:46:51]  Like, men are going to date younger women, but women are going to date younger men.
[01:46:55]  Women that can't compete in their age group, like, why would they not go down?
[01:47:01]  Young men are physically attractive, they have more energy than the older guys.
[01:47:05]  Like, they're more fun.
[01:47:08]  Especially like a divorced woman, they're so controlling.
[01:47:10]  That's probably why they got divorced.
[01:47:13]  They can control a young guy, they can't control an old guy.
[01:47:17]  So, yeah, they'll just keep going.
[01:47:19]  I agree with that.
[01:47:19]  I did a lot of girls that are older than me who are, they don't have like kids or some of them have kids, some of them don't.
[01:47:25]  But like they actually like dating younger guys just because a lot of the older guys, especially as they kind of get divorced and whatnot, they get a little bit bitter.
[01:47:32]  So they kind of like being with younger, you know, more energy, you know, not broken down.
[01:47:38]  Well, I keep telling you, a lot of these women, they say that the best thing that a man can do is be there for them.
[01:47:46]  So, like a lot of younger guys, they are willing to just show up and have a good time.
[01:47:52]  You know, men who are worth a damn, they can't do that.
[01:47:57]  They can't give a woman what women want the most is just men with time.
[01:48:03]  And if you're an ambitious, successful man, that's what you don't have.
[01:48:08]  Your purpose is over that woman.
[01:48:09]  I meet a lot of women, especially by date, where they need a man to be their emotional support.
[01:48:15]  They need a man that works at Target.
[01:48:19]  How many days a week would be ideal to see your girlfriend for you?
[01:48:24]  Uh, I'm like a weekend guy.
[01:48:28]  So, you know, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and then go home.
[01:48:32]  Friday night, Saturday, Sunday, go home.
[01:48:34]  What about you, Sean?
[01:48:36]  I'm sorry.
[01:48:36]  Yeah.
[01:48:37]  I would say the same, like maybe two days a week, something like that, like two to three max.
[01:48:42]  And then, like, the rest of the time, just stay away from me.
[01:48:44]  Like, that's how it is.
[01:48:46]  Because, Sean, are you in that position in life?
[01:48:50]  I would imagine that you're in your accumulation phase, like me, where you just can't get as much done as you get done now if you had a woman around you all the time.
[01:49:00]  100%.
[01:49:00]  Like, you know, with my ex, the best part of her relationship was when we did not live together, but she lived close enough that she could get to me within like 10, 15 minutes.
[01:49:10]  And so we could spend just enough time together that it's good.
[01:49:13]  And then it's like, okay, go back to your place and let me do my own thing.
[01:49:16]  Like, I would rather not have my time consumed and spend it how I want to do, whether it's work or whether it's just pursuing my hobbies or whatnot, instead of, you know, constantly, you know, a girl wanting affection or wanting attention or whatever it is, you know, I have more time to work out, et cetera, than to be caught up.
[01:49:33]  With one girl living together.
[01:49:34]  I think most men feel that way.
[01:49:35]  Have you ever thought about how, like, it seems like living together doesn't work and it seems like marriage is not working yet?
[01:49:42]  We all want it still.
[01:49:43]  It's like kind of a weird thing to think about.
[01:49:46]  It's like these puzzle pieces that are just not working, but everyone's still like, you should do it that way.
[01:49:51]  Yeah.
[01:49:51]  So most people do it because of either tradition or social obligation.
[01:49:55]  Like they feel like, what would our neighbor say if we lived together but apart?
[01:49:59]  You know what I mean?
[01:50:00]  Like if I lived in a house and she lived five minutes away, you know, down the street or, you know, a few blocks behind.
[01:50:06]  And we only spend a few days together or a few nights or dinner.
[01:50:11]  Or Sean.
[01:50:12]  So if you look at it, most of our parents, how they got along, I know my parents.
[01:50:17]  So my dad was always a computer guy and my mom liked to sew.
[01:50:21]  She's a quilting maestro.
[01:50:24]  So they would be like my dad's computer room was next to my mom's sewing room and they'd be close to each other, but not around each other.
[01:50:35]  Understand what I'm saying?
[01:50:36]  So, you can be in the same house, but not be around.
[01:50:39]  I think women have made this thing where, like, we have to spend all the time together, and that time needs to be spent entertaining me as the woman.
[01:50:49]  Understand what I'm saying?
[01:50:49]  Yeah.
[01:50:50]  Our parents, they spent a lot of time apart in the same house.
[01:50:56]  100% that's true.
[01:50:57]  But you also have to understand, like, especially women today, they're addicted to drama.
[01:51:01]  So, not only when they feel like they really like the guy, they want to be around him, but they'll talk with them.
[01:51:07]  You know, issues will come up.
[01:51:08]  You know, they'll get into stupid fights.
[01:51:10]  But women actually like these fights.
[01:51:11]  And I feel like a lot of men don't understand that women today, they're sort of like the drama.
[01:51:17]  They like exchanging the emotions back and forth, whether they want to admit it or not.
[01:51:21]  And that's a big part of why they want to live together when they're married with a guy, particularly, or living in a live in relationship.
[01:51:28]  For a lot of them, not all, but a lot of them like the drama.
[01:51:31]  That's really just what it is.
[01:51:32]  And so a lot of men are confused when they're fighting with their girlfriend.
[01:51:36]  Like, what are we even arguing about?
[01:51:37]  But the reality is, the women do like this versus men.
[01:51:41]  We kind of get sick of it.
[01:51:42]  That's why most men like living by themselves, especially today, day and age.
[01:51:47]  But the women really don't like that.
[01:51:49]  So as soon as they get into a relationship, the first thing the woman wants to do is move in.

=== Digging a Deeper Hole (03:16) ===

[01:51:54]  Yeah.
[01:51:56]  Okay.
[01:51:58]  I think that's all my thoughts on the topic.
[01:51:59]  Do you guys got anything else?
[01:52:02]  Yeah, I like the fact that you called Lauren Southern a loser because she is there.
[01:52:07]  I think that we're finally, well, you know, with the red pill, we're finally able to start objectively labeling women as losers, especially based upon results because Lauren Southern is one.
[01:52:17]  And, you know, guys, someone's going to take her.
[01:52:20]  Like Pearl said, they're going to take the kid, they're going to take the alleged herpter.
[01:52:26]  Like, she's going to land on her feet somehow.
[01:52:28]  It's going to be interesting to see where that is and how that is.
[01:52:31]  Yeah, and it's going to be an above average guy.
[01:52:34]  Maybe a little simpy, but that's not even guaranteed.
[01:52:38]  I agree with that, to be honest, because most women are overweight and they don't take care of themselves.
[01:52:43]  I think a lot of guys who have things that are going for themselves look at a hoe like Lauren Southern and see that she's in shape and say, I'd rather take that hoe for all that I've worked so hard for than take a girl with good moral character who's massively overweight.
[01:52:59]  It's just trading way too down at that point.
[01:53:02]  So, like it was like that one girl who was on your stream, Pearl, who said, I think you told her most women are like 20 to 30 pounds away from love.
[01:53:10]  I think it's 100% true.
[01:53:11]  Like, as long as Lauren Southern stays in good shape, she'll find an above average man.
[01:53:16]  It's not going to be an issue.
[01:53:17]  Yeah.
[01:53:18]  I mean, maybe not what she used to get, but it'll still probably be better than what most women in America can get.
[01:53:27]  So, okay.
[01:53:29]  Thanks for coming on, Sean.
[01:53:31]  Doug MPA, any final thoughts?
[01:53:34]  No, you know, I love when you trash these e girls, it's one of my favorite things.
[01:53:38]  So keep it up, and you're still one of the only ones calling out these broads.
[01:53:42]  Yeah, so just take the L, ladies.
[01:53:45]  Thanks, thanks, Doug MPA.
[01:53:47]  I was good talking to you.
[01:53:49]  Just take the L. Um, sometimes in life, you eat an L. Um, and I personally think there would be, I'm a little torn.
[01:54:00]  I don't think I have an answer on if she should gaslight for eternity or take accountability.
[01:54:05]  I almost think it would just be better, like in my head, I'm like.
[01:54:12]  Look, I hoard out.
[01:54:15]  Like, I mean, like, it just seems like that would be better, but I don't know.
[01:54:24]  He said, Hello, Miss Bangs.
[01:54:26]  I cut these myself.
[01:54:27]  I think I did a worse job this time.
[01:54:29]  I don't know.
[01:54:30]  We'll see.
[01:54:31]  I'll just keep doing it.
[01:54:33]  All right, guys.
[01:54:35]  Like the video.
[01:54:36]  Take the L. Thank you so much for watching.
[01:54:40]  You know, Lauren, this is my play to you.
[01:54:44]  Just take accountability and move on.
[01:54:46]  All this stuff is digging yourself into a hole.
[01:54:50]  And it doesn't matter to me either way because if you keep going, I have more content to react to.
[01:54:56]  Positive, right?
[01:54:57]  If you don't, I mean, you looking stupid helps me.
[01:55:01]  So you can keep going if you want.
[01:55:03]  But, you know, I might be the one woman on earth who's honest with you.
[01:55:08]  So like the video, subscribe, and I'll see you next time.