Pearl Daily’s call-in episode exposes how modern dating and marriage disproportionately burden men with STD risks, citing 74% of divorces initiated by women and CDC data showing 59% of women aged 20–49 carry genital herpes—often undisclosed. Callers reveal cases of intentional infection, asymptomatic shedding, and delayed diagnoses, like a man who avoided testing for years after his wife cheated with an infected partner. Military corpsmen clarify that condoms don’t fully prevent HSV transmission, while hookup culture’s reliance on unprotected sex fuels undetected infections. Ultimately, the discussion underscores systemic failures in disclosure, testing, and accountability, leaving men vulnerable to lifelong health consequences despite societal shifts. [Automatically generated summary]
I mean, this headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
Most young men are single.
Most young women are not.
Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
It's a different world now.
Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.
We need men!
The future is female.
Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
You've kind of got the Trad COD versus Red Pill thing.
This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
Oh, you need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
Marriage is a bond, and it's a sacred bond.
It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
Hannah Pearl Davis, or just pearly things.
One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
Gee, what could go wrong there?
74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
You need no evidence.
When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for, and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
I interview them on the other side.
I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
How much did you spend trying to get him back?
On legal fees alone was about $200,000.
Before you know it, you're homeless.
You're literally just thrown out into the street.
We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
Wives are taught to leave their husbands and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
Family is the foundation of a society.
Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
A lot of women will just chase this negative rabbit hole of happiness, endless happiness.
Feminism's biggest failures is it lies to women.
We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
We tell them to put off family into marriage.
You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.
You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
Oh, freeze your edge, have an abortion.
What?
You're evil.
I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.
Like if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic, naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.
It's self-sabotage.
And that's the thing.
Like women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.
This is not about happiness.
The most important thing is the children.
And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings, leave when I feel like it, instead of doing what's best for the kids.
This myth that we live in an age of male privilege.
Where's my male privilege?
They think, well, men have all the rights.
They have all the power.
Privilege, patriarchal system that we have.
Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.
Men are alone in this situation.
Men are homeless.
Men are thinking about eating guns.
I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide and they didn't do anything wrong.
How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
Women are helplessly dependent upon men.
The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, to alcohol, three times higher among men than among women.
Culture is telling men, you are no good.
You gotta get your act together.
I think men have failed themselves.
What kind of a man are you?
What kind of a woman are you going to attract?
If men are in trouble, so are women.
Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.
Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man for a moment.
500K, 500, 300K, 300K, 200K.
Am I crazy?
Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
So, you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
Women.
I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
I'm over it.
When is it going to be my turn?
Where are we meeting the men that don't?
I can't keep having these same conversations.
The only simp here is you, Pearl.
You sent for women.
I think you sent for women.
She's a provocateur.
She says stupid stuff, but Pearl is right about this.
It's already happening.
It's just not out in the open yet.
Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband.
The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
We're going to population decline and our economy goes into decline.
Civilization will crumble.
The American story does not end well.
This is an existential crisis failing young men.
What is up, guys?
Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily.
I'm your host, Pearl, and this show I give my thoughts after interviewing a thousand women and the conclusions that I came to.
But before we get started, I attempted to make a documentary called What's In It for Men.
The whole premise of the documentary is that society nags men's behavior.
They just nag.
They say, Men, why are you dropping out of the workforce?
Men, why aren't you marrying these hoes?
Men, men, nag, now aren't you doing more jobs?
Aren't you working harder?
Nag.
And I just kept asking the question: well, what do men get out of that?
What do they get out?
What does he get?
And, anyways, I tried to, I really tried to put together this documentary, but I faced some challenges.
And one being they demonetized me, kicked me off a million platforms.
So now I'm raising money.
I'm doing it the old-fashioned way.
And it's pretty exciting because we just got to $32,000.
I'm going to log in in a second and I'll show you guys.
$32,000 for the GoFundMe.
Oh my gosh, it's going to verify.
You're just going to have to take my word.
I hate these two-step.
I guess it's for the best, but all right.
So I wanted to get a beer before the show today.
I was really close, but I couldn't find one.
I don't drink much mostly because I really want to get six-pack abs.
I just think it'd be really cool.
But today I was like, I think I need a beer for this topic because today we're talking about herpes and HIV.
It's pretty gross.
But I do think this is an important conversation that people aren't really having when it comes to modern dating.
A lot of people have STDs out there.
A lot.
And odds are there's a woman that you know that has an STD.
Probably a guy too.
If they're actively dating and in the sexual marketplace, a lot of people have had them.
So the stats I've seen said one out of three women have gotten an STD at some point.
But a lot of STDs are curable, right?
So, you know, like from there's like gonorrhea, chlamydia.
These ones are curable.
But the ones that really mess up your life, I guess HIV kills you and herpes is pretty bad too.
You can't get rid of that.
So yeah, get your beer, get your beer.
Let me know what beer you're having in the chat, fellas.
All right, so women have become sexually liberated.
And, you know, nothing good really has come from it.
Modern women honestly believe that they can have sex like men.
Body counts are on the rise and promiscuity is at an all-time high.
What comes along with women sleeping around with a lot of men is sexually transmitted diseases.
Some of these STDs are curable and a lot are not, with the worst being HIV and herpes.
Men in 2025 have to protect themselves when sleeping with modern women.
And you know what?
I say the same to you, ladies.
There's a lot of Chads out there that look at they don't care.
I've interviewed some of these guys that have this stuff.
They just spread it.
They do not care.
The women don't care either.
And I'm going to tell you guys some stories.
Many of them, yeah, we could do a show on HPV a different day.
That's another common one.
That can give you guys, you fellas cancer.
All right, so many of these women have diseases and either don't know, don't care, or it's a combination of both.
And, you know, none of these scenarios are okay.
Imagine you caught something you couldn't get rid of from one of these women.
You know, that's what we're going to talk about in today's show, Modern Women, HIV, and Herpes.
As of 2022, there are 1.2 million people living with HIV.
It is estimated that 13% of people living with HIV don't know and haven't been tested.
Women make up 45% of new HIV infections.
Men have to be careful when they are sleeping with modern women.
You could get the high five and have it for life.
Now, I get a lot of, when we're talking about this topic, everyone will, you know, they'll put in their two cents.
They'll say, what you should be able to tell when a woman has this stuff.
I would be able to tell.
And men's ego sometimes gets the best of them.
Women's too.
But I've interviewed personally, one, two digitally, two people personally, probably five people.
I've never actually interviewed someone with AIDS, but herpes, that one's more common.
And I'm telling you, you would not be able to guess.
I would never have guessed.
Okay, so we're going to talk about...
Oh, no.
And the thing was when I interviewed these people, I'm going to do the two digital ones I had.
There was two men, right?
And basically, they both got diagnosed with herpes.
Now, one of the men decided to do the right thing, so to speak, and tell women before he slept with them that he had it.
And he said it killed his dating life.
It killed it.
It was never the same.
He hadn't had sex in years because it was just too stressful and whatever.
The other guy decided to, you guessed it, lie.
He said, you know what, I'm just going to lie.
And he spreads it and he does not care.
And he admitted this to me.
He said, I do not care.
I just, whatever.
If they, they don't even ask.
If they don't care, I don't care.
And he spreads it around.
I'm telling you guys, these, and you could argue the guy that got it, he actually got it from a marriage, one of them.
He was married to his wife and she brought home the gift that, you know, keeps on giving.
And you wouldn't really guess.
I wouldn't, you wouldn't guess it would be these guys.
Now, even like talking about this stuff, I still feel, I know like I do a show.
I chose the topic, but this even makes me feel uncomfortable talking about it.
That's why I was looking for a beer before this show is because I really want to stress to you guys that it's not always the men or the women you think it is.
You cannot tell.
The one guy, he just looked like a stand-up middle-class white guy.
You would not guess.
The other guy, I think, was like Puerto Rican, middle-class sales dude.
You could maybe say, like, okay, you couldn't know.
I'm telling you.
So, no, this is a woman that has it.
And I'll talk about some of the other people I've interviewed.
No, so, okay, when I asked the guys where they got it, the guy who got it from marriage, yeah, he was raw dog, and obviously, he thought this was his wife.
Um, he was raw dogging, and then boom, got herpes.
Um, he said it was the third girl he ever slept with.
Isn't that an L?
Oh my god, what an L.
He said it was his wife, the third woman he ever slept with.
Now, the other guy, the other guy I interviewed, he also said it was like one of the first people he ever slept with.
He said he wore a condom.
Now, I don't know.
It says it reduces transmission.
The PUAs I've interviewed about STDs, and these are guys that are just running through hoes.
They seem to think that that's impossible.
You can't get an STD with a condom outside of like chlamydia.
I'm just telling you what the market's telling me, guys.
So the PUAs are saying that guy was Cappin.
They said, Do you know what?
You are not going to catch anything if you wear a condom.
I've run through like a hundred hoes.
I've got nothing because I always strapped up.
I don't know.
I, I, you know, personally, I've never had a run-in with this stuff.
Thank God.
So I can't tell you.
Do you know what I mean?
But yeah, I know it's uncomfortable.
But this is a big part of the dating market.
People are afraid of STD.
Sex is coming before relationships these days.
People don't know, you know, people want to know what their risks are when you're doing this stuff.
Because otherwise, you know, people are going to die alone if they're not fucking.
Unless you find like a, you know, some girl at the community college, maybe.
But anyways.
No, who gave me HIV.
Yes.
But like, look, does this woman look like she has HIV?
I personally, I wouldn't guess.
Okay, before I go on a date with a woman, I'm going to ask for a checkup for HIV.
Okay, let's, let's, let's run this through.
Guys, it's hard enough to get laid.
Now, maybe you have enough status to demand that, but most women aren't hot enough to demand that from the men they're having sex with.
And most men aren't good enough.
No offense, fellas.
Most men, women aren't going to do all that for.
I do.
My privates look like a Rothko painting, JK.
I don't know what that means.
All right.
So I was monogamously dating somebody just before I met my now husband for two, three months.
And about a month after getting serious with them, I got a really strange viral reaction.
It was like mumps, pneumonia, rashes all over my body.
It lasted for about a month.
It was just very strange, and no doctor could figure out what it was.
In hindsight, I now know that that was me being okay.
An HIV test in her credit score.
Let me get this straight.
If you get a 22-year-old baddie in front of you, do you really think that you, and I'm not trying to be pick on you, right?
I'm really not trying to pick on you.
But unless the guys in the chat are some sort of celebrity or something, you're not going to have the status to really do that.
The girl's just going to tell you to F off, you know?
Yeah, it's hard enough for men to get laid.
Telling me that you haven't had sex in months.
Most men haven't had sex in months.
And there's a 22 year old Latina baddie sitting in front of you and you said you know what?
And she says Poppy, take me home.
And you're gonna say no, I need an hiv test.
Come on, I don't believe you.
Oh, I don't.
I don't, i'm just being honest.
I'm just being honest here.
Infected with the hiv virus, I won't settle.
I'm worth it.
Well, I don't want to say, look, I'm just being honest with what I would predict, how I would predict that would go.
But you are more than welcome to try it.
I could ask my, the PUA guy, because he works with a lot of men.
And as I was only dating that person at a time, and as I was only dating one person at a time, I know who gave it to me just by default.
When I did find out that I have HIV, I did contact this person on social media to let them know, hey, I think you gave me HIV.
If you don't know, I'm ready to flag it tested.
The response I got was a bit surprising.
And it suggested that they already knew that they have HIV and didn't disclose this information to me.
Luckily for me, as I went from dating this one person to meeting my husband, I haven't been able to pass the virus around to anybody.
And for anyone wondering, my husband is negative, he doesn't have HIV, I did not pass it on to him either.
But to answer the question, yes, I know who gave me HIV and it's a bit shit.
What an L. All right, let's see who's got it next.
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I found out that I had HIV.
So at this point, I was already with my ex, the guy who...
Oh, you're saying, oh, he's still married to the girl that gave him herpes?
Well, what's he gonna do now?
Do you know what I mean?
But no, he's not.
But you kind of understand if he was, what's he gonna do?
Go back out there?
Doctor me for about five months.
The relationship was OD traumatic.
I knew he was like not faithful to me, but I never thought that he was like not using protection with other women.
At least I made myself believe that.
At this point, I didn't have any more like symptoms.
Like I already went through the acute stage where I felt like I was literally gonna.
However, a couple of symptoms persisted even after that that were a little bit more subtle, but just as alarming.
The first thing that freaked me out really was that I would have a continual yeast infection.
I know it's kind of gross, but it's the reality of HIV.
And a continual yeast infection is called thrush.
I'm not saying that everyone that has thrush has HIV, but thrush is part of the symptoms of having HIV.
And you know, I'm from the hood or whatever, so there's like a little hood doctor.
I didn't have insurance.
Oh, I didn't have insurance at that time.
And so, um, like anytime I needed the yeast infection like medication, I would just go to the hood doctor.
So something that I forgot to mention is that the acute stage is basically the stage where you are most symptomatic.
Once you're done with that phase, you are no longer symptomatic in like very overt ways, but you still have certain symptoms that are very subtle.
Like you have a lot of fatigue, thrush, like yeast infection, like discharge, the whole thing.
And the second thing that really freaked me out was the fact that it was literally painful to have intercourse.
And so at this point, I was taking clinzomycin about like once every two weeks.
So I was like, you know what?
I'm going to go to the doctor.
Even though I don't have insurance, I could go to the clinic and get tested and tell them what's going on since it is down there.
The day before I went, I had this sinking feeling in my spirit, like in my gut.
I knew that I was going to get bad news.
So I show up to the clinic, I get tested.
When you get tested, you know, you do the full panel, you only get results for your HIV, like rapid results day of everything else.
You have to wait.
Someone comes out and calls my number because they can't say your name.
They say, sit me down.
And they just bring it to me.
Like, you tested positive for HIV.
My world literally shattered into a million pieces.
So that is how I found out that I was HIV positive.
Yeah, she took an L. Yep, Glacktavius gave it to her.
You just don't know.
You never know who has it.
How I found out.
Oh, this is the same girl.
Now she's going to say how she found out.
Okay.
I was HIV positive part two.
A lot of people want to know if I confronted my ex after finding out he gave me.
Women lead in all STDs over men by double.
Yeah, I know, but we know what's going on here.
Small group of men are banging a lot of the women.
So a few chads are spreading it around and the women are spreading it about.
And both parties are lying about it.
And the reason I want to talk about this is because I want to make two things clear.
You don't always know who it is.
And out of the people I've interviewed, I also, I know somebody that dated a girl and he went on a date with her and she told him that she had the herp, you know.
And he ended it, right?
And then, do you know what she did after?
She proceeded to lie to men about it.
And now she's engaged and the guy has no idea.
I, you know, this is someone, this isn't someone I know, but this is a story I heard from somebody that I know.
And my point in this is, you know, from a prep, we got to look at the incentives here.
Pragmatically, there's no reason for them to be honest.
Why on earth would they be honest if medical records are sealed?
You have no way of proving it was them.
And this is like the, I've interviewed some, not HIV, but HERP.
I've interviewed people that have it and their thought process is they can't prove I gave it to them because most people don't get tested for every single partner.
Like it's like once every two years or a year is the average.
And if I tell them the truth, I stop getting sex.
So I'm just going to lie.
Yeah.
I'm not saying it's the right thing to do.
It's obviously the wrong thing to do.
But what would be the incentive to be honest?
Seriously.
Seriously, guys.
Why would they be honest?
You can't always see it with the herp stuff.
You can't like, they don't always have active outbreaks.
So sometimes there's no symptoms.
You can't tell.
Yeah, everyone's lying.
HIV.
And the answer is yes, but not in the way that you guys might expect.
Man was like a full-blown narcissist.
In my mind, how it was a mistake.
When you test positive at the clinic, they ask you for your list of partners.
I refuse to give them his information.
Mind you, I had gotten tested the day before I met him and I tested negative for everything.
They put me on birth control.
They put me on antiretrovirals and they take my blood and send it out to the lab.
Sometimes people do have false positives, meaning that they test positive for HIV, but they're not actually HIV positive.
I knew I wasn't one of them, child.
Did y'all see the video of my acute stage symptoms?
It was not a joke.
So they tell me not to tell him anything until I get the confirmatory results, but I just couldn't wait.
The entire ride to his crib, I was literally trembling.
Sit down.
I currently remember a guy gave it to her or her girlfriend.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
And that's how a lot of these people feel.
And I'm not saying it's right, but a lot of these people feel like, okay, somebody lied to me and now I have it.
So why do I care about the next person?
I'm on the edge of his bed and I look at him in the eyes and I'm like tested positive for HIV.
Why was this his face?
Okay.
No concern, no anger, no fear.
I was like, listen, I don't want to talk about this negativity, okay?
Whatever you got going on is what you got going on.
Don't bring that negativity to me.
Oh my gosh, this guy that gave her HIV told her not to bring that negativity to him when he told her.
Oh, that's such a Chad move.
He gave you HIV and then gaslit you and said, don't bring that negativity to me when you're pissed.
Like I mentioned in the last video, I knew he was unfaithful to me, but like I never really had proof.
And honestly, he was a master manipulator, so it didn't make a difference whether there was proof or not because I was not ready to leave him.
However, I did not catch HIV because he was cheating on me, child.
The reason that I brought that up is because in my mind, I was like, yeah, you know, he's cheating on me, but he's not out there having unprotected.
He was probably cheating with a dude, to be honest.
That's how a lot of HIV gets into the dating pool.
By the way, guys, the best way to get something is anal.
Talked to a doctor about this, you know, as I was prepping for this show a while back.
And it's because there's like blood.
It's kind of gross.
I'm a little uncomfortable talking about this, but somebody's got to do it.
Somebody's got to do it.
This sex with women.
Because that would mean that he intentionally infected me.
So it's already like mid-September.
He begs me to come to his place and he's slapping his cologne, putting on his shoes.
And I'm like, oh, baby, where are we going?
And he was like, nah, you stay in here.
I'm going to go to a party at Hofshire University.
Mind you, this man was 37 years old at the time.
Doesn't come back until the next day at around like 2 or 3 p.m.
We argue, we make up.
I stay the night again.
And then a few days later, both of us have separate trips.
Before my trip, my vagina starts feeling weird.
Like a yeast infection, but times 10.
So when I get back, I hit up my doctor.
She tells me to immediately come in so that I could get tested.
Mind you, my doctor cannot stand my eggs.
She has been begging me since August to report him because he could reinfect me with a totally different strain of HIV.
Literally the next day I get a call back, tells me that I tested positive for chlamydia.
And at that point, the blindfold is lifted and my heart is literally exposed and broken into a thousand pieces.
Not because he cheated on me, but because at that moment I realized that he intentionally infected me with HIV.
And if you don't know this, the number one STDs on college campuses is chlamydia.
I couldn't sit with that on my conscience.
So this all went down around the first week of October and he was actually going to Miami Carnival that weekend.
The hardest part of my HIV diagnosis was actually leaving the person that infected me.
After a few days, I finally had the courage to report him to the Department of Health.
But honestly, it didn't even matter because come to find out that wasn't even his real name.
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
That is my.
Yeah, I did a couple polls on Twitter.
I'm currently locked out of my Twitter right now, by the way.
I don't know how we're still able to stream from it, but I fell for some Indian hackers.
They got me.
It was really stupid.
So, don't buy the bitcoin they're trying to sell.
Otherwise, I'd show you the polls I did.
But the consensus from people was that I remember I polled people on if they've had an STD, what was it?
Seems like chlamydia is the most common one.
That's from the field.
Even the PUAs I've interviewed said that's the one you might get, even with a condom.
They all seem to be very, it's like, are they gonna tell me if they got they caught herpes?
I don't know.
I don't know if people are gonna tell me that when I'm doing my research.
And that's why I need you guys to call in because you guys can call in anonymously.
And you can, you could give me, you know, because here's the problem with the STD stats.
Remember, they always lie to make society always lies to make women feel better.
So, if the data is saying women are whores, they might downplay it.
So, all the stats, I'm telling you, just assume it's worse.
i would really just um i would just assume it's worse than what we're reading um yeah so all right HIV positive after noticing strange spots on my body and experiencing high fevers.
It all started after a night out with my friend.
I remember drinking a lot way more than I should have.
Things got so out of hand that I completely lost control of what I was doing.
My friend tried to get me home safely, but we said we're gonna have to use the camera soon.
Okay, not this show.
This show is gonna be pretty anonymous, all right?
We ended up arguing, and she decided to leave.
I stayed at the party with some other friends and eventually met this guy.
He seemed fun, and the okay, so does this look like a guy that's gonna give you HIV?
Do you know what I mean?
This is what I'm like.
Last thing I remember was dancing and having a great time.
The next morning, I woke up in his bed, confused and unable to work.
Okay, so he smashed.
Call most of the night.
I left before he woke up, brushing it off like it was no big deal.
I thought that night wouldn't have any consequences.
But a month later, I started losing a lot of weight.
I was constantly running a fever, had terrible head...
Ah, eww.
Eww.
And noticed strange spots appearing on my skin.
That's when panic set in deep down.
I had a terrible if she had any thoughts she may have contracted early on.
She could have done PEP has to booth in 24 hours, but no later than 72 hours.
Well, you should call in and talk about that.
I don't know about that drug.
So terrible feeling about what might have happened that night.
I decided to go to the hospital.
And that's one.
Comment if you want to hear part two.
Pretty gross.
That's disgusting.
It'd be great to talk to someone with HIV because I don't know anybody with that.
All right, we got another one.
Sunday, August 27th.
Also, this is again, I'm getting a sick feeling in my stomach.
This is so gross.
Please like the video.
If you're not going to super chat me, guys, hit the like, but just as a thank you.
Could you just say thank you, Pearl?
Thank you, Doug MPA, for doing the research on this show, even though this is nasty, for talking about this topic publicly, even though this is disgusting.
It's disgusting, but it's got to be done.
I cover the modern dating market and guys, that's a big part of the modern dating market.
It's a big part.
This week, I found out that I have HIV.
I was diagnosed on August 23rd.
I was diagnosed.
Today is my attempt at my first day out of going to the movies with my friend.
$50.
Thank you, Thomas Conservative.
That's the kind of viewership I'm talking about.
That's the kind of support we love on this channel.
Because it's, it's, do you know what?
It's like now I have a video of me on the internet talking about freaking herpes.
That's disgusting.
But I just felt obligated, especially as I started doing these interviews.
I just wanted to stress that it could happen to any of you.
Because, you know, I'd interview these people and I would be like, wow, you guys look like just the person next door.
And it's, I hate saying that because everyone, like, they, it sounds like I'm justifying it.
But, you know, I love it when you guys appreciate the sacrifices I make for you.
Thank you, Thomas Conservative.
Thank you.
Because who else is covering this bullshit?
Who?
Who else is covering this?
Nobody.
Nobody wants to talk about HIV and herpes but Pearl.
I've had a really hard time.
It was really hard to get ready.
I don't quite know what I want to do with my story.
I don't know if I want to share it.
I don't know.
My mind is a thousand places at once.
But I wanted to document this in case one day I do decide to share it so that this part of my journey is seen.
I also just want to document this for my own self to see how far I come.
Because I know I have a world, a life of trials and tribulations.
And I know that this is important.
This part of the story is important, whatever I make it.
That's really all.
I never thought I would be here.
I never thought I would be talking, recording myself crying.
That's not who I am.
But I'm here.
I'm at my lowest point.
Well, I've been lower, actually, which is surprising.
But I don't know what could be lower than getting HIV.
Do you know what?
Like, okay.
And I thought about this because I interviewed a different guy.
Thank you, Pearl.
Sam, thank you.
I was interviewing.
I just, I talked, I talked too much.
I talked to a lot of people.
Now, I talked to this guy who's like in his 50s and he's dating, right?
And he flat up told me, you know, and I was just asking him about his dating life because he's interviewed.
He dated these old broads, right?
He was telling me about dating them.
And I'm like, aren't you afraid you're going to like catch something?
And he's like, frankly, because he was like 60 at his age.
He's like, at this point, I don't care.
And, you know, I do think there's like, like, if you catch something at 20, that's far more devastating than catching something at 40 or 50.
Like that's far more devastating.
Far more.
I'm at a really big crossroad in my life and just here.
And I'm thankful for that.
Yeah.
Again, you know, you'd think you're taking home a Latina.
Baddie.
And now you have HIV.
All right.
So according to the CDC, 59% of women between the ages of 20 to 49 have genital herpes.
Let that sink in.
These women have the gift that keeps on giving.
The luggage you can never leave behind.
Now, how do most of these women have herpes?
From sleeping with the same guys.
You have Chad Gloctavius that has it and all the women that sleep with him raw and contract it.
Thanks, Pearly Land, Doug.
Condolences of actions.
Women would rather catch an STD than Reday to five.
All right, so here's another girl that has herpes.
I mean, again, does this look like a super slut?
I like to tell you guys when I'm having a flare-up, just so that you see what it's like.
That's not why I'm in bed with a blanket, though.
I'm just comfy and taking in the golden hour.
Do you see this?
Okay, so literally what I'm feeling is an you are the Walter Cronk kite of herp dirt HIV HIV yeast.
I don't know what that means, but I guess thank you.
I'll let you know, like I am on the antivirals daily lately.
I have been since before the summer because I was just like, I don't want to deal, you know?
All it is is like, I'm itchy in one little spot.
Is there anything visible there?
Nope.
Now, what the herpes people told me is when you first get infected with it, I guess there's a lot of flare-ups.
And then over time, it becomes less and less.
And usually it's one spot that's infected.
And the reason it goes around condoms and people get it even though there's no flare-up is because you're most likely to spread it right before the flare-up comes.
So they can't see it.
So if it's like about to like be a blist or whatever.
And they also said that it's very tough to see the difference between that and like a skin tag.
And it's so disgusting.
I don't even like talking about this.
But the other thing I was told is that over time, I guess, because one of the dudes that I interviewed, I'm hoping he sees this.
I was going to message him on Twitter to call in, but I lost my Twitter.
So this was just like bad timing.
But he said that according to him, he doesn't take the antivirals.
Now, apparently the antivirals make it not spreadable.
He does not take the antivirals and he just spreads it and doesn't care.
Now, according to him, out of like 100 girls he's slept with since, only like two to five said they got it.
Now, this kind of backs up the research I've seen where they can only spread it like 20% of the year.
And even if you hook up with someone that has it, I think you're more likely to not get it than get it.
Like they're not going to spread it every single time.
And, but I guess the way it goes around, it's so disgusting.
I guess the way, but I'm trying to be informative here.
I guess the way it goes around the condom is some people get herpes like higher than, you know, like higher.
I'll just say, just for the sake of being YouTube, higher up.
I'll just say it like that.
I'm not a doctor.
I'm not a medical professional.
This is just based on the research I've seen.
So don't make any medical decisions based on this show.
I'm open.
If there's someone smarter than me in the chat, you never know.
We might have a doctor in the chat.
You let me know.
Much respect, Pearl.
The real side of things is sometimes what more needs to be seen.
Our best to you always.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'm like getting kind of grossed out talking about this.
Okay.
Can there be something visible that comes in a day or two?
Yeah, it'll probably keep it.
Everyone's saying it's gross in the chat, but there's 850 people in here.
Somebody has it.
I don't know who.
I don't know who, but somebody put it in the chat.
Be brave.
Who's got it?
Ching it and become like a little bump.
And look it.
If you guys have had sex with a hoe unprotected, it could have been you.
It could have.
If you, ladies, if you had sex with a guy unprotected, it could have been you.
It could be anybody, truly.
And then eventually, if I left it alone and didn't take an antiviral or didn't put an ointment on it, it might become a blister and then it would heal and go away.
Does it hurt?
No.
Do I feel anything else with it?
No.
I'll keep you posted.
Yeah, that's kind of what I've heard.
The first one hurts a lot.
That's the main thing.
They all said they all, what they told me was the first one is terrible, brutal.
But then after that, it's like not so bad.
And apparently, there's drugs now.
Basically, any problem that women have, technology will solve.
So I guess there's drugs that make it not spread, allegedly.
But I think they have to take the medication the same time every day, and women, you know what I mean?
And the other issue is, oh, I guess they have to take medication, make sure they're not having an outbreak when the girls give birth or the kids don't get it.
All right, let's see this.
This is a duder girl.
Nine years ago, this month, I got genital herpes.
I was 16 years old, and the person that gave me herpes was 20.
And I'll never forget this experience.
Oh my gosh, she got it at 16.
That's such an L. I'm so grateful for this experience because it made me to the young lady that I am today.
A lot of people have like controversial thoughts about me saying that I'm grateful for having herpes, but let me tell you why.
So when I was 16, I was already having it hard at home.
Like I worked a lot and I involved myself with older men because my mom told me better to be an old man's sweetheart than a young man's fool.
So that's what I did.
Unknowingly, this older man was in college and he had herpes.
So I was involved with him on like a Monday and by Wednesday, I was having symptoms.
I had all these sores just pop up like each day.
They would get worse.
And that's what I've, that's what I've heard as well.
Is if you get it, they say there's no symptoms, but every person I've interviewed said they got symptoms pretty fast.
Allegedly, from what I read online, it said you might have it and not even know.
Again, people don't really want to talk about this stuff.
So you probably are going to learn more.
You got two problems.
Gynocentrism, right?
People, they're going to hide information that makes women look bad.
So that's one way we're not really going to get the truth about it.
Other issue is that people are pretty embarrassed about this stuff.
They don't really want to talk about it.
So, like, they're gonna, they lie to their part.
Like, you know, there was a Reddit of a married woman that woman that had herpes and never told her husband.
I think the friend of the guy I know that dated the girl that went on a date with the girl that had it, the girl got engaged, and the guy doesn't know.
Careful out there.
And worse, like it started with one, then it went to three, then it went to six, and then it was like a nine from my, you know, lady parts to my butt, you know?
And I was in excruciating pain.
I'm like, man, I don't trust anybody in this house to tell them what's going on with me.
And mind y'all, I worked a lot.
So I had a like overnight type of job.
Yes, when I was 16, it was like an early morning overnight.
Like, I don't know what shift you call that.
Anyway, I ended up telling the lady that I worked with, like, oh my God, like, something is wrong with me.
And you guys got to stop crashing out on these girls that have herpes if they tell you.
I'm telling you, man or woman, if they tell you, you're lucky because I'm interviewing them.
And I'm telling you, it's way easier for them to lie.
My son caught herpes from his girlfriend.
If you could call in and tell us about it, like his symptoms, what he's done dating thus far.
Yeah.
And if you guys have had experience dating someone or whatever with it, please don't come in and crash out about women having this stuff and men.
Like, just call in.
I just want the experience.
And she's like, just try to push through.
Like, this is truck team for JC Pennies.
They're like, you can't go home.
You're going to have to work.
So I'm like, oh my gosh, like I have to work through this excruciating pain.
So finally, finally, it got to its wits' ends to where I was at home one day and it was so many sores down there.
It hurt to urinate.
So I was holding my urine so long that I was standing in the kitchen with my mom and my urine just came out of my body like my water had broke.
And my mom was like, what is wrong with you?
What is wrong with you?
And I just start bawling.
My mom is and was extra mean.
So I'm like, I don't know.
There's just sores everywhere down there.
And she's like, you done got something?
Oh my gosh, she's mad.
This was the 18th, I think, of July.
And she took me to the doctor the 19th of July.
And that's her birthday.
So yeah, I found out I had herpes on my mom's birthday.
The doctor swabbed the swab.
She said, oh, I'll send it in for testing, but this is herpes.
My mom, my mom was so mad at me that I think she didn't talk to me for seven straight days.
Like she wouldn't even look at me.
She continued to be mad for like eternity.
She's cool now, but she was like really, really mad at me.
And I thought I would never make it to C18 and get up out of that house.
But I went through it.
You know what I'm saying?
And that's why young kids come to me and they'd be like, oh, I'm so scared to tell my parents.
And I get it, but you have to go to the doctor and get the medicine so that you can start to suppress it in your body.
I mean, it'll go away on its own, but it's better to just go get that medicine.
All right, let's see who's next.
Yeah, someone in the chat said, I grew up in the 70s.
If someone tells you you're lucky, I'm telling you, you guys are lucky.
So if the girl or the guy told you, here is, I'm not, I'm, I personally, I know there's a person I know that did marry another person that had it.
I try to be vague so people can't.
And the reasoning was, I'll just say there was an exchange of value that this person felt like was worth it.
And with the technology, they felt like it was.
That would personally be a deal breaker.
No thank you.
But, and I don't, I would never shame somebody, you know, for saying that's a deal breaker.
But I just, we got to be honest here.
We got to like, you're very lucky if the girl told you because especially as a woman being honest, you guys should have said thank you so much for telling me and left.
Yeah.
This is what I say when I disclose that I have genital herpes to a new potential partner.
I'm Adrian the Yodi nutritionist and I've lived with genital herpes for over 20 years.
So I have a lot of experience with disclosing.
What I've learned over the years is it's not what you say, it's how you say it.
Before we get sexy, I want to have a sexual health conversation just to make sure that we are on the same page with where we're at and what we're good with.
It's important for me to share with you that I live with genital herpes.
I've had it for a long time.
I'm doing everything that I can to manage and prevent it.
I rarely get outbreaks anymore and we can still have an amazing sexy time.
I want to tell you about it before we get sexy so that you don't find out about it afterwards.
I'd love to know when the last time was you were tested.
And then you stop talking.
What you're doing here is you're giving them the facts.
You're not getting emotional about it or you're not information dumping.
By leaving it off with a question, gives them an opportunity to think about when the last time was they were tested because the responsibility isn't all just on you.
Give them an opportunity to digest all of that information that you just shared.
And then if they have any questions, you can open up further discussions from there.
Most of the time, the person on the receiving end of the disclosure, it's usually the first time that they've heard about something like this or they don't know much about it.
So their confidence in you is a reflection of how confident you are in yourself.
This is why learning more about herpes, how to manage and prevent your outbreaks and prevent transmission to your partners is so important to building your confidence when you live with herpes.
I teach you all about that in my healing herpes.
Look, they gotta figure.
I actually don't think what this woman's doing is the worst thing in the world because they gotta, look at there's half of women and like 10% of men or something like that that have to figure out how to date with this thing.
So if she's teaching them how to tell each other, I think that's a win for society.
At least they're not spreading it.
That's so gross.
Oh my God.
All right.
So what do we got next?
We got this woman.
I told my parents.
Yeah, see, she's a baddie.
Parents.
And they took it really well, but I did feel like I had to explain, you know, why I hadn't protected myself because obviously my mom would ask me, oh, did you use a condom?
I mean, I didn't use a condom, so it's definitely, it must be from that, but you can also get it from not protecting yourself.
So there'll always be a risk of getting some sort of STI.
My name is Emily Bride.
I'm 29 years old.
I live in London and I'm an artist, producer, sing-a-songwriter.
I found out that I had genital herpes because I had this itchy feeling and it's been, it had been going on for like four days, but I didn't really give it much thought until it was when I was itchy or touching myself, it actually hurt.
It started like it looked like milky spots.
They turned out to small cuts and then they would like unfold and I've heard that's the biggest difference is they like blister open and that was where I couldn't pee.
So that was where it was very smelly and uncomfortable.
I had to then Google what I saw and then come to the conclusion that I might have genital herpes.
I didn't want it to talk to anyone about it because I was embarrassed.
So I felt ashamed, I felt embarrassed, I felt disgusting most of all.
I started thinking about how I couldn't date anymore and if I had to date I would have to wait having sex with them because I wouldn't want to do what someone might have done to me not telling me and I didn't want people to judge me because I was judging myself and that was the worst pain you can put on yourself.
It was a horrible mental pain that I have to deal with and then on top of that started the physical pain.
I have heard one strategy women with herpes use is they blow the guy because you don't have I think you don't like it doesn't they don't always have it in the mouth, right?
So they blow the guy and they give him the best blow job of his life and then they tell him like you know later.
Or I've also heard that women will have sex with the guy and then tell him look at these are stories I've heard communication and developing a relationship is vital and should be the goal.
These random sexual encounters do have consequences.
Well yeah but I'm telling you half the people I interviewed got it from either a girlfriend or a wife.
Could happen to anybody.
It could happen to Atluk, and that's, you know, that's when you get some humility right, because I know I have made good decisions in my life.
But when I meet somebody that got it from a husband or a wife and it was, according to them, the third person they were ever with, you know it humbles you a little bit because you're like damn, that happened to them and they made you know they got married young.
You know it's yeah, I know it's so gross, it's gross.
But I'm just being real here guys, I can't.
I wish I could come back to you and say when I interviewed these people they were just these skanks like they told you would totally be able to tell they had it.
They were just whoreing about but, and some of them were right, I mean, some were kind of either man whores or female whores, but some weren't, And I'm just, you know, I'm just being honest.
Me not being able to pee as a woman.
First thing you think of is like, you know, your appeal.
How will I now come across?
Am I sexy enough?
Will anyone be with me?
Am I good enough?
And I should have done this.
It opens so many new questions in my life in terms of all the times I have not protected myself and why is that?
And then digging into that and reflecting on that.
And then the whole like me being a woman, like, why is it that I feel this way?
Why can't I just talk to my friends about it?
What am I ashamed about?
This is very normal.
Yeah, and as women, you know, when women get it, they feel even more lonely because you tell a woman in the friend group, she'll tell the whole friend group.
And now everybody knows you can't tell women this stuff.
My relationship with my new partner, we've been together for seven months now.
And I told him about the whole story and what happened and what went down.
And he just gave me a big kiss and a big hug.
He made me even more confident or made me love myself.
I do see myself as a role model because otherwise I wouldn't.
Why will women take L's and then call themselves role models?
Today, I would like to tell everyone out there and the world just to spread awareness about genital herpes, but to tell them that they are completely normal and that it does not define who they are.
All right.
And you got to think about it like this, guys.
Have you been on three dates?
One of the women probably had it.
Okay.
In some demographics, it's higher.
So let's say you only date like Asian and white women because half of black women have herpes.
So if you go that route, you're playing with fire.
I'll tell you what.
The white women, it's like one in five, I think, or one in six.
And Asian women, it's one in eight.
But if you go on eight dates, look, and anecdotally, the guys who gave me stories of the women, you know, one was a white, like that, because I haven't interviewed a girl directly about it, but I've had men tell me stories of women they've dated that either had it and they didn't get it, or they went on a date with they told them.
And if I'm being honest, the stories I've gotten back, one white girl, one Indian, one Jewish, one black.
So it was pretty, it was pretty around, you know.
All right, like this girl has it.
Would you be able to tell?
I wouldn't.
Oh, basically, I've been dating this guy.
Like, we finally decided to say, like, okay, we're not seeing other people.
So then I was like, cool.
But I hadn't told him about the herpes yet because it only had been like a month, I think, of seeing this dude.
It wasn't that soon.
And I don't always tell a guy right away.
Sometimes I'll wait to even see what's going to happen.
But anyway, so I waited a little bit just to kind of see where things were going.
I had got a cold sore and I was like, fuck.
And I was supposed to hang out with him.
So I literally, instead of telling him, I was scared.
So I broke up with him and gave him no explanation.
And he's like, Alexis, what the fuck?
And I was like, okay, hear me out.
I was like, I kind of have herpes and I was scared to tell you.
And I have a cold sore right now.
And he was like, really?
That's why you're breaking up with me?
He's like, I don't care.
Like, he was like, I don't care.
It doesn't matter at all.
He's like, I know about it.
I dated a girl like that before.
And I was like, oh, cool.
And he's like, so can you still hang out?
I was like, yeah.
He's like, then fucking come over.
I don't care.
We just want kids.
And I was like, oh, so it's not.
All right.
Let's see who this girl's boyfriend is.
He dates her with herpes and he can't even make the gram.
Isn't that crazy?
He can't even.
Yeah, I mean, you know.
If she's young and pretty enough.
Guys will accept it for the, you think you guys would really be able to tell?
Come on.
All right.
So I did, I asked ChatGPT how likely you are to catch it using a condom.
All right.
So the risk factors of catching HIV or herpes through oral or a vaginal sex depend on several factors, including whether protection is used, the infected partner's viral load, especially for HIV, and whether the virus is actively shedding.
Now I do, we do need to take this with a grain of salt because it is chat GPT.
But this is what it's telling me.
I would have used Grok, but I'm locked out of my Twitter.
Here's a breakdown of the estimated risk per exposure for oral and vaginal sex for HIV and herpes based on CDC data and peer-reviewed studies.
So if you have vaginal sex with a woman, if you're a woman and you have sex with a guy that has it, it has HIV.
It says one in 1,250.
And if you're the guy putting it in a girl, it's 1 in 2,500.
But it does increase if there's blood involved.
So if you're hooking up with a girl in her period, doing back door stuff, if you're just a big guy, you catch my drift, there's blood.
Or if you have other STIs.
Oral sex, it says extremely low.
The risk is not negligible, but not zero, slightly higher if there's ejaculation, sores, or bleeding gums.
Again, condoms reduce the risk by 80 to 90%.
If the HIV plus partner is on ART and undefectable, the risk is pretty low.
That's what I've heard.
I've heard that from medical professionals on shows too.
Again, we're in a gynocentric social order.
We're all sifting through this shit here.
Everybody's selling something.
I don't know.
Herpes.
All right, ladies.
If you have sex with a guy with herpes, you have a one in 10 chance of getting it.
If the partner has HSV2, no condomin is shedding.
So if you have sex with a guy that has his viral shedding, which happens 20% of the year, there's a one in 10 chance you get it if he's like, and there's no condom.
Men, it's a one in 20 to 30.
If you're banging a girl with herpes, you got a one in 20 to 30, one in 20 to 30 times you'll get it.
Her HSV2 sheds more frequently than HSV-1.
HSV-2 is genital herpes.
HSV-1 is cold sores.
Oral sex is lower than vaginal, but HSV-1 can transmit to genitals and vice versa.
So if the girl gets cold sores, she can put that on your, on your, you know, stuff if she's been, you know.
And it's similar for the male.
HSV-1 is the main cause of genital herpes from oral sex.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Okay.
Condoms reduce herpes risk by 30 to 50%.
Herpes can be transmitted even when no symptoms are present.
Daily antiviral meds can reduce transmission risk significantly.
I have heard that some guys will take that before a date to reduce the risk.
I don't know if that works for someone that doesn't have it.
I'm not a medical professional.
Maybe Doug MP, I can dig into that.
All right, but basically, it's saying that herpes, 3 to 10% chance of catching it if he's shedding and no condom.
I don't know why it's saying HIV is so low.
It's saying you're very unlikely to get that.
I don't know why.
Okay, it says risk reduction tips.
Use condoms or dental dams.
Ask their partner if they've been tested.
Avoid sex.
If there are any visible sores or symptoms.
For HIV, ask about ART use and viral load.
For herpes, ask about antivirals.
All right, if you'd like, I can calculate your estimated risk if you've had multiple encounters or break it down by specific scenarios.
For example, if you're in a six-month sexual relationship with one partner who has HIV or herpes and you always use condoms, your chance of getting infected depends on how often you have sex, whether your partner is taking treatment, whether the virus is active or shedding for herpes, and how consistent your condom use is.
So let's assume vaginal sex is two to three times per week for six months.
So you have about 60 acts of sex.
Condoms are used every time, and the partner is either HIV positive or HSV.
And you are HIV negative and HSV negative at the start.
The receptive female, it says for HIV, it's 1 in 100,000 and 1 in 250,000.
Those are the odds with 60 protected acts.
Oh, so it's for each one.
It's per act.
But if you do it 60 times, your odds are 1 in 4,167 as a guy and 1 in 6,667 as a girl.
John, my ex-wife gave me chlamydia, the only one I've ever been with.
We're divorced now.
Yeah, sometimes it's just an L.
It says if the HIV partner is on ART and undetectable, the risk is near zero.
Now the herpes risk over six months with condoms.
So male to female, so if a man's having sex or male to men giving it to women, four to five percent ladies.
So if you're just using a condom and no medication, four to five percent are going to catch it.
Women to men, women giving it to men, two to three percent are going to get it within six months.
It actually would be interesting to see how that extrapolates over like 10 years.
In six months, the male risk is 1.5% and the female risk is 2.5% will get it.
If the HSV plus partner is on daily antiviral medication, the risk drops by 50%.
If the partner has HSV1 genitally, risk may be lower due to less frequent shedding.
Oral sex adds additional but lower.
HSV-1 transmission risk, especially if the HSV plus partner gets cold stores.
All right, the summary is that for a man, if you're banging a girl, one in 4,000 for HIV and 1 in 67 for herpes.
Those are your chances for a woman.
1 in 1,667 if the dude's got HIV, if you're banging for six months, three times a week.
And the woman is one in 40.
And it's a higher risk due to shedding.
Antivirals help.
To lower the risk, have your partner get tested and treated.
Avoids having sex during herpes outbreaks.
Consider PREP for HIP, HIV negative partners.
If you want to model different sexual activity levels, let me know.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
Now we're done.
All right.
So now that we're talking about this, I want to know you guys' experience.
Do you have HIV or herpes?
Call in.
It's all anonymous.
So we're just going to have cameras off today.
Have you gone on a date and had somebody tell you about it?
It and had somebody tell you.
Have you ever been getting to know someone?
They say I have HIV or herpes.
And how long did it take you to tell somebody?
And what did you do?
Or for them to tell you?
And would HIV and herpes be a deal breaker?
For me personally, that would just, you know, it's just one of those things that if you don't got it, you don't want it.
I get really tired of the herpes people at the cold sores saying everyone's got cold sores.
Because I'm like, I've never had a cold sore in my life.
I don't even want that one.
No, thank you.
I'm good.
I am, I am, I am, no, thank you.
All right, but let's let's go to Doug MPA.
Um, thanks for torturing yourself through this topic.
It's a tough one, but I do think it's important.
So, you know, if half the, if half the, we got to think of the math here.
If half the population of women has it, if it's attractive women, it might be even higher.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'd say six is in above.
It's probably 80%.
Gross.
So this is, this is a big part of dating nowadays.
So, you know, have you have you come across it in the dating market?
What's been your experience?
Yeah.
You know, I actually, there is a time where I was trying to actively date B-dubs.
And one of them, you know, we were talking for a little bit online.
We met online and, you know, two, three weeks, whatever.
And we went out on one date.
And then I actually went on a workshop for my day job.
So we're talking when I get back to the hotel, we're talking whatever.
And it was to the point where the day before I was going to come back, it's like, all right, when I come back, we're going to go on a date and we're going to smash, right?
But she's like, yeah, I just want you to know that I may have herpes.
I said, what's this?
You may have herpes.
She's like, well, I took a test and it was inconclusive.
I said, wait, what?
What do you mean?
Inconclusive.
She's like, oh, yeah, it was inconclusive.
Yeah, I never talked to her again after that.
You're lucky she told you.
You're lucky she told you.
Yeah, I am.
And then one of my friends went out with another B dub and they were just about to get it on.
And this girl was beautiful, too.
And she had a little pamphlet that, you know, they were on the couch and stuff.
And she pulled a pamphlet out of her purse.
And it was like, I have genital herpes, but it's not the worst thing in the world.
And blah, blah, blah.
So she created this whole pamphlet and handed it to him and expected him to be like read it and say, okay, yeah.
He was like, get the hell up out of my house.
I'm going to have to watch my couch cushion now.
Get out of here.
She tried to call him and say, Now that you calm down, you know, I hope you she kept trying to call him, and then after a couple of days, she's like, I know you've calmed down, and I'm willing to give you a second chance.
She's like, A second chance, this is disgusting.
But once at least she told him, Yeah, I'm telling you.
Interview when I was interviewing these people, I think I showed you a voice note one of them sent, or maybe I don't remember if I did, but like the pit I got in my stomach.
I was like, Oh my god, like I was like, Oh my god, they do not care.
They just spread it around, yeah, you're lucky because a lot.
Like, I said the story earlier.
There was a someone I know went on a date with someone with a girl, and she told him, but because it didn't work out with him, she never told a guy again, and then she got married two years later because she just started lying.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, she tried telling the truth, it didn't get her what she wanted, so she said, Fuck it, I'm gonna lie now.
She's married now.
So, because I think that people with STDs should tell the person, and because what's worse, them lying because a lie of a mission is still a lie, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, but you could say should, but it doesn't matter, yeah, like they're like, Do you know what I mean?
That's like a wish list, they're not going to because it doesn't give them the outcomes they want, it doesn't give the guys sex, it doesn't give the girls relationships.
And the way they view it is actually, let me look.
How often do people get tested?
How often do people get not often enough?
That's how I for STDs.
Um, I'm gonna say, on average, let's see, uh, it keeps telling me should.
I want to know how often people do.
Well, if I had to guess, people get tested like once every two years, maybe on average.
I don't think that's enough, but if I had to, what would you guess it is, just anecdotally?
Ask that again.
I'm sorry, I had to block this kid guy in the chat because he is.
I made Steve M a moderator, he's legit, he's a great moderator, guys.
And if you come at him, come on now, guys, calm it down.
No caps, no curse words.
Remember, Pearl's channel is a red pill channel, it just gotten remonetized.
It's probably still on some watch list somewhere.
So, YouTube censors her chat based upon certain things.
So, just follow the rules, please.
I'm sorry, go ahead, Pearl.
How often?
Because I keep Googling this and it says how often people should get tested.
How often do you think people do get tested?
Like, what's your just like being in the field experience?
Well, because I know people that just don't even go to the doctor, so I'd say maybe once every two years.
That's what I, that's I said the same thing for a guest.
So, like, a guy that's sexually active, how many girls is he running through a year?
Would you say a guy actively dating, like in the dating market?
So, a guy that's in the top 30 to 20 percent, yeah, I say he's smashing 15 women a year.
Okay, at least how is who is he going to be mad at?
He he tests positive after two years, he's got 30 women he's going to call and women.
Let's let's say it's the same numbers.
I don't think it is, it's probably higher for women, but let's say women, it's 30 guys two years, same thing.
Uh, so I think that I think that he's just gonna test positive.
I don't even think he's going to reach back out to anybody.
I think that women are more likely to reach back out to the men than the men are to reach back out to the women if they're dating.
Right, but that's my point: is like the incentive for people to be honest isn't there because by the time, yeah, by the time they get tested, they can't prove who gave it.
And that's exactly like one of the people I interviewed.
That's what he told me.
He said, Well, they're sleeping with multiple guys.
Like, the reasoning, he said, he said, Well, the girls don't even ask, they don't even ask to put on a condom.
So, if they don't care about their health, why should I?
And here's the thing: from what I've read, men get more immediate symptoms than women do.
Women can go years without getting symptoms.
I don't, I've never interviewed everyone I interviewed was a guy, but one of them infected, he said long-term people that he's infected, and he said they got it pretty quick.
Like, he said they got symptoms pretty quick when they got it.
That was what he said.
I know it makes you like feel sick, but they're like, I'm telling you, they don't care.
Should is like a waste of time, they don't care.
Yeah, like because, like, the way yeah, the way the way they're gonna view it is like you're killing my sex life, and I'm not gonna do it.
So, yeah, some people are out here, man, just doing damage, right?
But when they get the positive result after two years, it's like, who are they gonna call?
Yeah, nobody said, there's no accountability.
Go ahead.
The way that the sex life was, what did you think was gonna happen?
Well, some of them died.
I'm telling you, like, a good amount of the guys got it from wives that I interviewed.
I'd say half.
Yeah, I would imagine that because I honestly believe in marriages, women cheat far more than men.
Yeah, like two of the guys I would say were man whores.
Two of them got it from one was a girlfriend that he was with for a while, one was a wife.
Um, my dolls and drugs are disease-free, and they don't cheat.
Oh, Eric with the doll.
I mean, he has a point there, Eric.
You are not helping me with the incel audience allegations.
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You can come on tomorrow, but you can't be calling people names and F-bombs and be intentionally incendiary, man.
You've been a long time supporter, but you can't be rolling like that.
Okay.
All right.
So we're going to bring up the next.
I also might ask you guys how often you get tested just out of curiosity.
Okay.
So I see some new names.
So let's bring some new names in here.
Akshay.
Are you there?
Hi, Dehi.
How are you?
Good.
How are you?
Yeah, I'm good.
Thank you.
Just follow the thing and just found it interesting.
So, yeah.
All right.
So, guys, when it rains here, my audio is kind of bad.
So, I'm going to have them mute me after I ask the question, just to make the audio a little better.
Can you hear it, Doug?
I'm assuming you can.
You can barely.
Oh, you can barely sound bad.
We can't hear on the Zoom.
We can barely hear on YouTube.
Oh, okay.
Then I might lose it.
Okay, well, what's your so what's your experience?
Did you catch an STD or do you know someone that has one?
Oh, sorry, I didn't catch one.
No, sorry, I just tuned into the show.
No, all right, buddy.
Sorry.
Did he not people just like walk in?
I can't.
I'm no.
Yeah, guys, don't call in.
I said this earlier, but call in if you have a story.
Either you or someone you know.
You know.
Yeah.
Christopher.
Sorry.
Hey, Chris.
I can't.
I'm blue.
You can hear the YouTube in the background, so you have to turn the YouTube off.
I said this earlier, but call in if you have a story.
Either you or someone you know.
You know.
Yeah.
Okay, I have a story.
I have a question.
Chris, you're listening to YouTube.
You have to turn the YouTube off.
Could you?
Yeah, I know.
Guys, if I come into the 21st century, guys, come on now.
Okay.
If I say, call in if you have a story, and you come on and you say, but I have a question.
You know, I love you guys, but it's just I'm trying to run a show here.
Okay.
So if nobody wants to call in and tell me their STD story, I understand.
I really do.
But yeah.
All right.
Someone else on or now?
Let's get in a good mood.
We're going to admit probably our favorite guest on the show.
We know he has some stuff to say about this.
Dustin, what's up?
Yo.
Dude, I'm not having an outbreak.
Can I have my video on?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
All right.
I'm just kidding.
I don't have anything.
I don't have anything.
It's all right.
I'm not contagious.
So, enlighten us.
You know, who has gotten the herped up, the herp derp, or the high five?
Well, okay.
Who do I?
I knew.
I actually worked with this girl who had it.
That's what she wants, right?
Yeah.
But there was a girl named.
So wow, I'm just letting it slip.
But I remember, you know, in the service industry, they got this thing called an early out.
Like if it's slow.
So this girl, she goes on a date with this guy, and she comes to work and she's like really freaking out like a week later.
And it comes time for an EO, and we have guests at the bar.
And she goes, well, shouldn't I get the EO?
Because I just found out I have herpes.
And she said it so loud.
Yeah, it was wild.
And then I actually, when I was bartending at this casino, one of the guys I worked with, and you're right, you would never know that he had HIV, but he ended up telling me about it and like how he got it.
And he actually spread it to his wife, but he didn't know he had it for a long time.
They went on a vacation like a year into their marriage.
And he got really sick on the vacation and almost died.
And he ended up spreading it to her, unbeknownst to her.
And it was really sad.
It's very sad when someone tells you they have it, obviously.
But He seemed pretty at peace with it, and he would tell me that with all these new pills and stuff, he just goes and raw dogs and chicks just like he did before.
So, yeah, go ahead.
I was just thinking about because I've always been real afraid of STDs because I don't want to be proactive about rubbers, you know.
I'm just like, I just put it wherever it wants to go.
And like, I just think about it.
So, you know how the gender pay gap, how that figure is gotten?
It's kind of like how they get the STD figure because you may, sure, one in five people have an STD, but I've done shagged 12 of my friends, and I never got an STD.
I want to get tested.
So, I was like, statistically, that's not right, you know.
But, um, yeah, but you don't, it's also based on your immune system, so you might have a strong immune system.
Yeah, I got that.
I got that Jewish blood in me.
Wait, so, um, the guy that had it, um, did he, how did he get it?
Did he tell you?
And was he just banging other girls while he was married?
I'm guessing.
And did he ever spread it?
Like, did he ever have that problem where they called him and said they got it?
Go ahead.
So, he got it because he was also doing drugs.
He was doing hard stuff because he had a lot of depression.
His brother committed suicide and started doing heroin.
And he was doing that outside of seeing his wife, and that's how he contracted it.
And he spread it to his wife.
He wasn't unfaithful.
And that's one thing that because I did, I met a like I dig down this chick in New York City.
And after I talked to her for a bit, she told me her best friend had HIV.
And I got really afraid because I didn't use it.
I didn't wrap it up.
So, like, I broke up.
I went to her work a week later and I broke up with her.
She's like, why?
And I said, I think, like, I said something really rude, but you know.
And people don't, when people have it, they don't tell you this crazy life they usually live before they contracted something that serious.
Like, herpes is another thing.
You know, you can get that.
That's something that's real scary.
But HIV, I don't, if people went into their backstory, you would be like, wow, no wonder you've got it, you know?
Yeah, I've never met anyone with HIV.
I've met people with herpes, but not HIV.
Like, not personally, anyways.
The people that you've met with herpes, were they sexually promiscuous or were they just like, oh, I'm.
Oh, wait, actually, I do know one girl that has it.
The girl just dated a Chad.
He had it.
She actually had only been with, like, one, maybe two guys.
Like, she was pretty young when she got it.
The guy was promiscuous, but he got it pretty early on.
Like, maybe, like.
He actually kind of reminds me of you a little bit, like, his attitude.
Yeah, he's a funny guy.
Yeah, but like early on, he got it.
One guy was married.
He got it from his wife.
He wasn't promiscuous.
So, I don't know anyone with HIV, though.
The girl, though, that got it, did she lie going forward, or did she, because she was obviously really honest there?
Oh, no, she didn't.
She actually just started, like, she got it.
She said that stupid thing at work.
She didn't work for a week.
She came back and then she started dating another bartender.
It was just about to ask because I'm telling you, some guys and some girls, they don't give an F, man.
They just dive right in with both feet anyway.
Yeah.
But so the guy had like the guy had to know, right?
Oh, he knew.
He knew.
But I think that once you said, oh, I have this drug that stops my outbreak, so as long as you don't see it, we don't got to worry about it.
I think if a girl says something like that, a guy's going to be like, hey, sign me up, you know?
Would it be a deal breaker for you?
Well, I'm 34, so like HIV for sure.
You know, I'm not like, I'd make out with a chick that had HIV on New Year's.
You know, if she needed that, like, a kiss and no one else would kiss her at night.
I'd give her ears.
Like, if it was herpes, I would.
And she got, she'd have to be bad.
But, you know, 34 and I got to live with it for just a little bit longer.
You know, it might be worth it.
I'd have to, like, Margo Robbie at 21.
I would, I'd eat an ass for and get herpes on that, you know?
But have that.
I'm probably not going to do it.
I, you know, I'm, I'm at the point because I'm in my 40s.
If I, because I was telling Pearl this, if I met a girl, because you know, I like tall women.
So if she were like 5'10, 5'9, you know, you know, crossed a bunch of other boxes off, and all she had was like cold sores on her mouth or something.
I mean, I could probably deal with that only because one of my friends was married to her husband for like 15 years, and he got cold sores when he was a kid, and they were married for 15 years, and she never got it.
So, um, but once again, that would just have to, she'd have to be like, you know, a seven or above and have a lot of traditional values and stuff like that.
But yeah, the high five, no way.
And then genital HSB, herpes, the heck, no, no way.
I don't even think I'd risk cold sores.
Like, those look painful.
Like, I don't know.
I've never had, I've never, I don't really like canker sores.
You know, the stuff you get when you eat too much sugar.
Oh, and I'm like, cold sore, those look worse.
I'm like, I don't know if I'd risk that.
All right.
All right, Decimu.
We're going to have to cut it a little short tonight because we have a full range of callers.
But thanks for calling in.
We have a lot of callers here.
We do.
How are we going, guys?
All right.
See ya.
I was there talking to you, buddy.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm going to try Christopher again.
Be ready, man.
Christopher.
Yeah, good evening.
How's it going, Chris?
Yeah, good.
Okay, thanks.
Okay, what you got for me?
You got, did you get an STD or do you know someone that has one?
Or are either of the two that we talked about a deal breaker for you?
What do you got?
Okay, so on the STD front.
Okay.
So I just did some reading on herpes and what it actually does to like the like during pregnancy.
So it's it's like pretty severe, right?
The chances of like the mother transferring the infection to the baby is not, it's is quite high, but it's not like 100% kind of guaranteed that it would transfer.
That's the first thing that I've that I've got from the AI overview.
So yeah, obviously I'm not saying like it doesn't, it shouldn't affect like people's choices, but that's just what I'm reading.
Okay, what about you personally?
Me personally, do I have herpes?
I don't think so.
I know I get cold sores, but like, no, I don't have like, I went, I went recently to an SDD clinic about a month ago.
And yeah, I got like the whole kind of like a rare source.
How often, how often do you get tested?
Maybe like once a year, probably.
Okay.
Have you ever been dating a woman and she said, oh, just so you know, I've got the herp dirt or I have HIV.
Yeah, yeah.
And that was the end of the relationship.
Was it, would you have guessed?
Like, did she look like she might have had an STD?
Did she look really promiscuous or what?
No, she just, no, she just, yeah, she just had a cold sore.
And then I was like, I just asked about it.
And then I was like, yeah, okay, well.
Did she have genital herpes too?
Or just the I don't know.
I don't know.
I didn't go there.
Oh, you were like, not the cold sore wasn't.
But if you get cold sores, I think that means you have the first one.
So what is that?
Is that yeah, I'm like pretty, well, there's, yeah, there's HSV2.
Yeah, there's HSV1 and HSV2.
HSV2 is the bad one where you get a, it's, it's a bunch of stuff.
Yeah, you don't want HSV2.
HSV1, they say, sad part about it, they say like by the time you're 45, like 70 to 80% of people have like HSV have cold sores or something like that.
Oh my God.
In the West.
God willing.
I just, I've never had one and they look painful.
Yeah.
So.
Okay.
Well, what you said, I'm a little confused because I'm looking at what I'm reading on chat GPT is it says it's not that likely the kid will get herpes.
I don't, I don't know.
I'm not like, I don't know.
Like it's saying it's only if she's in an active infection.
Right.
And what, and how often does that happen occur?
It's like 20% of the year, but they can take drugs to suppress it.
I don't know, though.
I'm not a doctor.
This is the problem is this topic.
It's like People like they coddle women so much, they don't really give us the information, so it's all coddled.
So, I don't know.
Go ahead, and also, women, they women are still seen as the victims of this whole thing when there are women that are knowing spreading it.
Or, or come on, guys, come on, ladies.
If you're with a Gavin that's targeting musician or a Glocktavious, come on, man.
Just assume they have it and don't mess with the guy, you know what I'm saying?
But women do it anyway, yeah, yeah, all right, I mean, really, like, yeah, I mean, if I was gonna like make the law, then I would be like, that should be a kind of punishable offense because you can't medical records, like, yeah, people have the right, people of yeah, people have the right to like keep medical records private because, okay, so like confidentiality,
yeah, and yeah, okay, yeah, I'm just I agree with you, but I'm just being honest about this.
There are some states that like California has a thing where if you normally give someone HIV, you can charge them with a crime, so you start to see more and more states like that, yeah, well, yeah, no, I think, yeah, I mean, yeah, that makes sense, and like to be honest, like, I just think that if like it's it's it's like I guess it's there's there's some kind of like gray area,
or that it's I guess the people have like the right to privacy, I guess.
But I just don't, I just don't, I just don't think in like if you're gonna kind of like think about like evolving the human race, right, and trying to make sure that like certain things don't get it just it does, yeah, I know it just it doesn't matter, it does like it doesn't matter what you think because like women aren't gonna let it happen.
Uh, we're gonna go on to the next caller, but thanks for calling in, okay?
Okay, all right, cheers, but I'm just sorry, I just didn't want to go down the route of like it shouldn't be.
I mean, you know how it is, it's like it doesn't matter.
Bad luck, are you there?
Yes, sir, bad luck.
Is that bad luck because you got it?
Yay, I have to, you know, at least try to make fun of it.
Yeah, okay.
Um, so how did you catch it?
Uh, it's a bit of an unfortunate uh event, but basically, uh, I was I was a virgin, married this girl, she didn't say shit, uh, and then all of a sudden, you know, surprise, surprise, wow, surprise, surprise, you got which one?
I, I, so according to the tests, I have both of them, but uh, I only had like blisters, uh, like on the you know, basically on the genitals.
Wow, so you got both from the group, and so you were a virgin until you got married, yep.
Wow, and are you guys still married or no?
No, and what have you done in like your dating life now?
Do you like tell the women or what do you kind of tri talking to some other women after that?
And then like I remember uh dating one Canadian uh girl in particular, and she was just like, Oh, yeah, I love you, this and that.
And then when I told her, she was basically like gagging and she like, she said it was like disgusting or whatever.
And I'm like, okay, cool.
You know?
So.
Were you guys hooking up at that point?
No, no, no.
Before anything happened, I just let her know and she was, you know, she acted completely like disgusted by it.
So and then she came back around and then she was just like, you know, she was trying to be nice about it.
And I was just like, okay, you know, and it's just kind of like discourages you from talking to anybody and telling anything to anybody.
That's basically what happens.
And have you tried like dating sites for people that have it?
Like, is that something you've tried?
No, not really.
Okay.
Is it something you want to try or not?
Like, how long have you had it for?
Probably, I want to say since maybe like 2013 or something like that.
And I'm just curious, how much does it affect your life, like the blisters?
How often are they?
And like, how bad would you say it is, like, the HIV, like for both the symptoms?
So, but when I first got it, it was kind of often.
It was, they're extremely painful and they take a long time to heal.
So it's, it's a very uncomfortable experience.
And, you know, you just try to basically get your best to keep it like clean and dry because, you know, that stuff like spreads basically.
So, you know.
And then after that, it's just like it just becomes way less often.
It's just less often and less often to the point that now it's like, I haven't had it in years.
Yeah, that's what I've heard from the other guys I've interviewed too.
Do you think that if you were to hook up with somebody, they would be able to tell you had it?
Like, do you think it's easy to identify?
Like, if you're in an outbreak or like, or not?
Go ahead.
Yeah, I mean, I guess if there's a visible sign, then yeah.
But honestly, no, I couldn't tell.
You know, if somebody's lying about it and they don't have anything visible, then it's like impossible to tell.
And what about your wife?
Like, you didn't notice any blistering when you guys were married?
And like, how long were you married till you got it?
Like, how long were you hooking up till you got it?
Probably a year and a half or something like that.
Maybe less.
A year, year and a half.
Yeah.
And was she taking medication or no?
No, not that.
She didn't say, she acted like she didn't know.
She was just lying through her teeth the entire fucking time.
So I never noticed anything.
She never said anything.
So, you know.
Sounds about right.
So that's how it is.
And for HIV, is it likely that you will die from that someday, like based on the technology now?
No, people live with that stuff until old age.
I had an uncle that had it and, you know, he just lived until old age, basically.
He died from something else.
He said that he has both versions of HSV herpes, not HIV.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I misheard you.
I thought HIV had her.
There's one and there's two.
I was like, damn, damn, it's a double homicide.
So are you in the South?
Are you in Texas or New Mexico or something like that?
No, I'm in the South, yes.
Yeah, so I was I lived in San Antonio for a couple of years, and there's this lady that was on the news.
And she got HIV sleeping with a random man.
Wow.
So she would go to, and she was very attractive too.
She'd go to the airport in like a little black dress or like a little red dress and just sit at the high-end bar at the airport and then just get hit on by some guy that was traveling and sleep with the guy Raw and then just keep it going.
Yeah, and she do that every single weekend.
And she's been arrested multiple times for it.
She just keeps doing it.
She's like, yeah, someone gave it to me, so I'm going to give it to as many people.
Yeah, so she just sit there at the bar at the airport, like guys pick her up, take her home, and then do it raw.
There are some very twisted people out there.
What did your wife do after?
Was she able to get remarried again?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So she was basically.
Yeah, it's just, you know, she was cheating on me.
That's why I left her.
And then she married the guy that she was cheating on me with.
And she had a kid with him, too.
Oh.
Yep.
And do you know anyone else who has it?
You said your uncle has it.
And I'm just curious if the people who are.
When you brought up like HIVs, that's what my uncle had.
Okay.
I was just curious: does he tell people about it or does he lie?
Honestly, I don't know to be honest with you.
Because I mean, he told me.
I remember the family knew, but I don't know if he told people he dated.
I'm not really sure.
I was never into his business like that.
But fortunately, he passed away.
He's not around anymore.
So I couldn't tell you.
And when's the last time you had an outbreak?
You said it's been years.
Oh, yeah, it's been years.
I don't even remember when was the last time, to be honest with you.
And how many bad years do you have to endure before it gets to that?
You said in the beginning, like in the beginning, is it every other month?
Like, how often do you get it?
Shoot, it's been a long time.
I'm trying to remember.
It was probably like if I had to guess, because I don't remember, it's been so long.
It was probably like maybe like every two, three months or something like that.
It was, you know, like I said, it was very annoying.
And then it's just like, it's just less, like, less frequent, less frequent, less frequent until then it gets to like once or twice a year.
And then it's just like, right now, it's like I said, it's been years.
And would you say it killed your dating life?
Like, you basically had no dating life after 100%.
Yeah.
It's just, you know, like I said, I try to be honest to, you know, like with the way that chick reacted, it was just like enough for me to like, fuck this.
You know, I'm just way too embarrassed about it.
Just put it that way.
Well, there's a lot of girls with it nowadays.
You know.
Yeah.
That's true.
All right.
Doug MPA, you got any other questions for him?
No, that's it.
Really appreciate you sharing your story, buddy.
Thanks for calling in.
Yeah, thanks for calling in.
All right.
You guys have a good one.
All right.
I'm going to bring up another new name and then we can go back to some of the OGs real fast.
Jamie.
Hey, what's up?
You guys hear me?
I can hear you.
I hear an echo.
Is it playing?
Do you hear an echo, Doug?
MPA?
I do.
Do you have YouTube playing in the background?
Yeah, let me turn it off real quick.
All right.
How about now?
Okay, better.
Yeah, I used to work at a STD clinic in the Bay Area.
No way.
Oh, yeah, I worked for like a year or two, about two years.
My experience is that it's mostly a lot of gay men have HIV.
And basically, there's a lot of gay men in the Bay Area to go with that.
But the stories are crazy on how people would get them.
You'd hear all kinds of like stories on some people would get.
And when it comes to HSV1 and 2, a lot of HSV1, a lot of HSV-2, I guess.
The thing that I got was weird was that a lot of the women that had HSV2, they would tell their partners or their future partners.
And a lot of the men were like, that's fine.
That's fine.
And they would tell me like, so the guys were like, I don't know if they're simping or they're just desperate.
Because the women that did tell me that, a lot of them were really hot, really attractive.
And from my experience also, when you have HSV-2, you can shed, which is you're shedding the virus.
Like you could shed like a week or two before you actually start feeling symptoms or showing symptoms.
So it's, so the people that you think don't have it may have it.
So it's hard to tell if someone has it.
And a lot of the STD testing in California, they don't test for HSV1 or HSV-2.
They'll do the other stuff, the chlamydia, the HIV, I forget gonorrhea, all that, but they won't really test for it.
And they say it's just so damn prevalent in California with the HSV-1 and 2.
And do you think the women that have it, were they, like, would you say they were more attractive women?
Like, just across the board.
Go ahead.
Yeah, in general.
In general, it was really, it was the really hot women.
I have a question.
This is Doug NPA's question, not Pearl's question.
How many of the women that came into your clinic were black women?
The one that was, that came in a lot, she was actually, she had HIV, really cool lady, though, super cool lady.
But it was mostly the one that I saw.
I lived in, where I worked at, I'm not going to say where it was mostly gay white men, older men.
It wasn't really a lot of young men.
The young men that did come in, they were, it wasn't, I can't say the word, the worst, they were like the damn, the horniest.
Like it was just, I remember a couple of, a couple came in and then a week later, they're fighting with each other to young men because one was cheating and they were both, one came in a week after that and he was looking green.
His hands were had pustules.
I think he had gonorrhea for like a long time and he was just really in bad shape and he couldn't stop having sex.
And then this other guy, I'm not going to say as an ethnicity or anything, he was actually HIV positive and Hep C positive.
And he would come in and then a month later he'd come in and he had chlamydia in his in his anus and in his throat and they'd Tell him to stop having sex, and he and then he wouldn't.
He would just come in like three months later, he'd be infected again.
It's just, it just was just nonsense.
And it was the young gay man, and I felt bad for them, but it's just like it's hard for them to control, I guess, their sexuality.
I don't know, like they just couldn't keep their pants on, I guess.
Um, um, but the older men, um, they were just coming in for their regular scheduled uh visits, you know, every six months, every it just depends how sick they were on their viral load.
Or basically, the viral load is the amount of um HIV virus you have in your system, and you check that like every I don't depends on how bad you are or how sick you are.
Um, the medication now is really, really good.
Um, you can take the medication to where your HIV, your viral load is so low where it's undetectable, where you're you're testing negative with HIV, but you have to be, I forget the name of it.
It's been a while since I worked with it.
How often do they transmit it?
Because I, when I was looking on Chat GPT, it was saying you're really not likely to get it if you hook up with someone that has it, but that seems wrong, but I'm like, I don't know.
It's from what I remember in the studies is that like vaginal intercourse, it's pretty difficult to get.
It's when you get into the blood, the blood on blood contact.
So, anal sex is you have a lot of that blood-on-blood contact.
That's also when you have HSV one and two, there's sores there, right?
So, if there's you have a higher chance of catching something because you actually have a wound, so something gets into that wound, like disease, like HIV or something else.
So, that's why they say you have you're a higher risk of getting HIV if you have HSV1 and HSV2 and you're having sex.
So, it's really like that blood-on-blood contact that's really the thing about it.
Um, but yeah, there's also like a tracking system in California.
Once you have HIV, you're tracked for the rest of your life through this through the state.
So, if you're like, say you're homeless or you leave the state or you're in jail, they have to like figure out where you're at so they can keep you taking the medication to keep you below the HIV level, the HIV viral loads where you can give it to people.
So, it's like, um, so if someone disappears, they go to jail, we have to find them, figure out where they're at, and have them keep taking the medication.
And do most of them live like a normal life now?
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, they're taking their meds, they have a normal life.
It used to be like in the 80s, the medication was so bad, it was really tough on your on your liver and kidneys.
Um, but the medication got it's gotten so good that you don't have to worry about that unless you're doing other drugs or you're an alcoholic or something like that.
So, I think for Doug's question, he was asking about um the herpes, if like what percent were beat ups.
Um, it was low for, but I, we, where I worked at was a low, it was pretty, predominantly low um African-American community.
Okay, that makes sense.
I couldn't tell you, yeah, it is a were you like right in San Francisco, like right there?
Yeah, yeah, that was really expensive, though.
So, you're probably exactly if I work in Oakland.
I'm pretty sure you'd be totally different stats, yeah, I would imagine.
Okay, so for the um, the would you say that most people, I don't know if you even like in your job, did you even have a chance to talk to them about how honest they were with the people they slept with?
I'm just curious if you had any information on how like honest people are with it.
The younger one, but well, I'll add to her question.
Not only post question, but did you have any like optional questionnaire questions About d disclosure or how often they talk to their their partners about what they have.
Is there a lot of it's hard to say?
I didn't see a lot of younger people there.
It was mostly older, older white men.
Um, but most of them they actually had their own partners.
Um, when people did come in for random testing, it was um you know, did they just want to get their HIV test?
You know, no questions asked that kind of thing.
I, there was questions on how many people I slept with.
I remember one guy, he was a cop, and he says he just forgot how many people he slept with.
He just wanted to get tested.
Um, other people would come in just to um, hey, I need my, what was it?
My warts burned off.
I need my warts taken care of.
Like, they actually dinner warts and get treated.
And okay, I'm gonna go about my business, even though they were positive, they're probably HPV positive, which is uh general warts, which I think four of those types of general warts can actually lead to um cancer.
Um, so it's it's for men, it's really important if you if a woman has HPV because the HIV can you can get men can get throat cancer from HPV of those four, there's four variants.
There's like, I don't even know, there's like maybe 30 to 20 to 30 different types of HPV.
It's 16 and 18, the one you don't want, right?
That's the maybe made, I forget how many are cancerous, but there's at least four or five that are cancerous.
Um, see if Chat GPT says what strands of HPV give men throat cancer.
Um, I'm curious, what anecdotally, and maybe because there was a lot of gay guys, but like what percent of women do you think have STDs if you had to guess based on your experience at the clinic a lot, a lot.
Um, there's this other STD that I keep forgetting.
It's it's a oh, there's this other one I forget.
Um, trichomonis.
That one, like damn near 80% of the women that came in for STD checks had that.
Um, what is that?
Um, it's it's hard to explain.
I haven't looked it up.
So it's they call it trick.
Everybody calls it trick in the clinic.
Um we're talking about stuff that we didn't even know about.
Yeah.
trichomonas, yeah.
And it leaves like a, like, a, like, like a stinky smell on a woman on a woman's, the JJ, basically, is one of the symptoms.
But yeah, yeah, there's, there's tons of trichomoniasis.
Yeah, it's a commonly STI caused by a parasite called vaginalis is typically spread through sexual contact is treatable with antibiotics.
Ooh, I'm looking at the pictures.
Yeah, it causes a foul-smelling vaginal discharge.
Exactly.
That's the biggest symptom.
So you'll, so yeah, that big stink, that's probably trick.
So that's so that's a telltale sign.
Hey, I'm not going to go down on this lady girl right here.
Because some guys are desperate.
Like, I hear stories.
Oh, yeah, you know, even though it smelled, I was still hitting it, you know, because, you know, it's better to have age agent.
We know that type of, you know, mentality.
What percent of guys do you think get herpes if they get into a relationship with a girl that has it?
I just, I don't know.
I just know a lot of the women that I did that did come in with HSV.
They would tell me like the guys wouldn't care because she was so hot.
And I'm like, what the?
Like, what do you mean didn't care?
Like, they didn't want to put on a con?
I'm like, no, they just.
They didn't want to put on a comfortable.
No, they were all right with it, which, which, which was, I'm like, oh my God, guys are that fucking desperate.
I know.
I know one guy that didn't, he said he hooked up with a girl that had it, but to be fair, he was like 57, 55.
I feel like at that age, they're like, that's another thing.
Like older people, they don't give an F about those STDs.
They're like, I'm dying anyways.
I don't give a F.
No, they're like nursing homes.
Oh, yeah.
I worked at a nursing home too.
And they're hooking up.
They were hooking up big time.
Big time.
Sorry, Hud.
Yeah, they're hooking up big time.
And it's at a nursing home, it's like, well, they're adults.
Let them do, you know, unless they don't have the mental capacity.
They're like, well, they can do what they want.
So it's, that's another whole, another, where do the warts come?
Like, if a guy's hooking up with a girl, is there like, is it easily visible?
Like the warts, are they big?
Some are, some aren't.
Some show up like on genitalia or on the side of the legs on the penis.
It's, it's, there's different types, I guess.
They show differently on different people too.
Like different races.
It shows up on the skin differently.
It could be a big old wart like on your hand, but it could be small and little.
It could be a bunch of little ones around the penis.
It's all kinds of.
Yeah, it's a huge variance.
Did you ever see that one Instagram real quarter with this woman?
She's in a salon, like a waxing salon, and the wax lady is like, that smell down there, ma'am, I can't wax you.
She's like, well, I just got out of the gym.
She's like, that's not the gym.
You need to go to the doctor.
And she's like, well, I can't believe you're not going to give me.
I'm going on vacation tomorrow.
And she's like, ma'am, I am not going to wax you because you got a discharge down there and it smells gross.
And she's like, I can't believe.
And she's trying to cuss the lady out.
He's like, I don't feel comfortable giving you a wax.
You need to leave.
I was just curious if you think that it's easy to identify if you're hooking up with somebody.
Like if a guy's hooking up with a girl or vice versa, if there's any like, I don't know, best practices, places to look so you don't catch anything.
Using condoms until you, when you feel comfortable to take it off, get the STD panel, get the whole HSV one and two and all that before you even think about having.
Oh, that's my next question.
Yeah.
Like, do you think the guy that said he told me he got herpes from wearing, even though he had a condom and they hooked up once?
Do you believe him or no?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can shed on your legs, but it's possible.
He could have, gosh, he probably could have kissed her and she had it on her face.
Well, he said it was the second one, not the first.
Yeah, the other thing too is that I think you can get HSV2 on your face too.
I'm not sure.
Yeah, you can.
Yeah, so you kiss someone that has HSV2 on their face, and then I think it can show up on your vaginal, on your lower extremities.
I'm not sure on that, but you can.
But there has been, I've read stuff where you can be shedding on your, you can, because you can have HSV2 on your legs.
It doesn't necessarily have to be on your genitalia.
It can be next to your genitalia, basically, or it can be on your arm.
We've seen people have sores on their arms and it was HSV-1 or HSV-2.
And if, in your experience, what percent of people that you came in that got STDs were wearing a condom?
If you know, if you don't, it's okay.
But I was just curious.
I couldn't tell you, but I'm pretty sure it's pretty low.
Yeah, it's pretty low.
It says 16 is the most common cause of HPV throat cancer in both men and women.
It's responsible for 90% of HPV cancers.
HPV 18 is less common, but still classified as high risk and occasionally linked to throat cancer.
answer.
Other high-risk types like 31, 33, 35, 52, and 58.
But these are much rarer forms of cancer, but are sometimes found.
I think 16, 18 are the ones you don't want to get.
It could be rare here, but once you start going to Thailand or Africa, it totally changes.
Even with AIDS, you can have a different variance of HIV.
There's like a rare type of HIV or a different type of HIV that the medications can't treat in Africa.
Like that AIDS variance or HIV is different from the one in the U.S. because it mutates.
It's like the HIV from the 80s is not the HIV from today.
You know, it's one of my conspiracy theories.
Yeah.
So, you know, the aspects of HIV that make it unlike any other virus.
I think the reason why it's most prevalent in South Africa and Lesotho and all this.
This is, I can't prove this.
It's just my, I honestly think that the South Africans came up with that to try to get rid of the white South Africans that are apartheid came up with that to try to get rid of the black population.
Is that who knows?
Who knows?
I mean, who was patient zero?
Wasn't it some gay guy who was have you heard of patient zero?
Yeah, because wasn't it somebody gay steward?
Yeah, yeah, from Europe that did some sex tourism in South Africa and then brought it back.
Yeah.
Yep.
What was the average age of the women coming in with herpes?
Oh, the one 20s, 20s, 30s, you know, the oh, yeah.
But a lot of the older women that would come in, it was like it was totally normal to them because they've had it for years.
That's that's the only time I was like, oh yeah, it's part of my other medications.
I take you know, Valtrex or Valcyclovir, you know, when I ever get a phalaro, but they would just you'd be like, oh, wow, I didn't know you had it.
I don't know, that kind of thing.
It was just across the board, but it's, it's, just to say, it's, there's a lot of people that have HSV and HSD one and two in California, to say the least.
What percent of attractive people do you think have herpes, men and women?
I couldn't tell you.
I'm just curious.
I like to ask people that work in the field.
So I just, yeah, a lot of people, because I think a lot of people have it.
I can't say, like, I would say at least two out of ten have it.
Okay.
I put it that in that context.
Cool.
Okay.
Doug MPA, you got anything else?
No, this has been great, man.
It's always good to hear people that have been in the clinics and out there seeing what's really going on.
So thank you for calling.
We really appreciate it.
No problem.
Take care.
Have a good one.
Okay, guys, make sure to like the stream.
We really appreciate you being here.
I'm going to read the supers, yeah, really quick.
We're talking about this because someone's got to.
Nobody's, you know, it's like I haven't really heard any show.
Like, cause I remember I was like, do you remember when Kevin Samuels had that stream that was like, you three dates to have sex?
And I'm like, Kevin, I don't, like, want to catch anything.
Like, all right.
We were talking about the soft five.
I think that as women, especially when they smash past the wall, they would, if enough, if they meet a guy that crossed soft enough at their boxes, they would deal with anything short of maybe the high five.
Yeah.
Okay, Avery, I'm glad no one wants to do me.
Wisdom for the HSV, take foods and herbs with cumin, quercetine, and reservatrol.
I'm so sorry.
Take lysine, which blocks arginine, which helps the virus replicate.
And Arginasi canceled out the adjutin.
Don't ask me how I know this.
Okay.
Michael, nasty topic, but it's important to spread the message.
Thank you, Eric.
My dog.
Okay.
Eric, you're not helping me with this incel audience allegation.
Sorry.
Spread knowledge, not herpes.
Yeah.
Look, I just, I just felt like this is a big fear of people in the market.
Nobody wants to catch anything, so we might as well talk about it.
Agreed.
Okay.
Although, women, I think we just want it.
We like, we love playing with fire.
So I think if we might catch something, it just makes it like I asked one of the guys who had it.
I'm like, your exes that were really into you.
Do you think they'd hook up with you even if you told them you had it?
He's like, yup.
Yeah, there you go.
I remember one of my friends who's a woman.
She's everything that we talk about.
She's in her mid-40s, six figures, was a single mom, now her kids out of the house.
And she was on Facebook Dating of all places.
And I'm just like, well, what are you doing there?
And this really attractive male nurse, good-looking dude, hits her up on there.
She's like, they're talking and stuff.
He's like, hey, I'm a travel nurse.
I'm at this hotel.
Why don't you come?
There's a really nice restaurant in my hotel.
Why don't you come here Friday night?
And then you can stay the night the night, you know, that night in my hotel room.
And she's like, I can't believe he said that.
And does that really work?
I said, of course it works.
He wouldn't have tried it if it didn't.
He said, because my friend, she's your stage where she's alone, but she isn't.
No, she tries to say that she's happy alone, but we all know she's not.
And it's like, all you women, you're going to break sometime.
You're going to be like, okay, I'm here watching scandal for the 10th time.
This guy hit me up on for a Friday night.
What else am I doing?
And this woman, I don't know if who knows the last time she's actually been with a man.
So a lot of the women like you, you're going to break sometime.
So that guy probably sleeps with a whole bunch of women just like you.
And that guy probably has something.
Well.
Anyway.
Okay.
Well, let's bring up.
I'm going to bring up some of the regulars, but I'm going to give you a four-minute limit because we still have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten people in here.
So, Eric, I'm bringing you up, but you got four minutes, pal.
eric eric He always has his microphone messed up.
Or maybe he's listening to the YouTube and he's delayed.
There he is.
What up, Eric?
You got herpes or not?
Well, not anymore.
What do you mean, not anymore?
Yes.
You can't get rid of that.
What are you talking about?
Well, you know, a moment ago, well, actually, after the past few minutes, your YouTube feed was totally roboting.
So I was fighting that refreshing, you know, trying to get it to go back to normal.
But I guess we're okay now, aren't we?
Yeah, you're good.
So okay, well, the sun's going down, so there isn't a whole lot of lighting on my face, which is probably a good thing because I'm an old fuck dart.
You know, you got five minutes, but we have like 11 more people on the line and we just crossed the two hour.
Oh, okay.
Well, I'll be quick then.
Yeah, back in 1982, you know, I'm talking ancient history here.
There was a girl who worked in a restaurant, you know, right on the other side of the pier where I lived.
I was an intern at the Mott Marine Laboratory in Sarasota.
And, you know, I hooked up with her and about 10 days later, I had a sore on my noodle.
I'm not sure what you can say on Facebook, but yeah, it was basically herpes.
And, you know, that stuff would erupt like every two or three months.
And then it just dropped out altogether.
And, you know, I joined the military later and it never showed up again, which I think was really strange.
I guess it's an immune system thing.
But, you know, the my I ultimately, you know, I eventually got married.
And I guess my wife at the time was, you know, throwing the pussy at me almost every day.
And it didn't occur to me that she was trying to get pregnant.
And, you know, she wound up getting a whole bunch of tests done.
And it turned out she couldn't get pregnant because during her, you know, what do you call it, her experimental phase, she had apparently caught chlamydia and it had completely destroyed her reproductive tract.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, so her eggs weren't even making it down her tubes far enough to get fertilized.
How long did she have chlamydia for?
I'm not sure.
I mean, you know, I married her when she was 21.
I'm guessing she was probably banging all the Chads from like age 16 until then.
You know, because, yeah, she was a horny bitch, man.
No doubt about it.
I mean, you know, she loved getting it on.
Wow.
So she was infertile by the time she got to 21.
She must have had, because from what I understand, how long does chlamydia take to make you infertile?
Did they not have drugs for it back then?
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, you know, I never bothered to follow up on it.
And, you know, well, and that's not why I divorced her.
I mean, ultimately, after 14 years of marriage, I divorced her because she was so incredibly financially irresponsible, you know.
But yeah, you know, before even before I got exposed to herpes back in 1982, one of the worst things that ever happened to me in terms of like communicable diseases was there was a super athletic,
really attractive redhead in my apartment complex.
Okay.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And we had a huge pool party.
There were like 20 people or more there.
And although I wasn't able to detect it at the time, we wound up going back to my apartment.
And, you know, I went down on her because, you know, back then I was a full service guy.
And I wound up getting a yeast infection in both my inner ears.
It was the most painful thing I've ever had in my whole life.
I felt like my head was going to explode.
And, you know, it was really funny because I came back up here to the Verde Valley because I didn't have any medical insurance.
I didn't have a doctor or anything.
My mom hooked me up with an appointment with a gynecologist up here in the Verde Valley.
And so there I am in the waiting room with like, you know, eight women aged like 18 to 30.
And the reception is like, okay, so why are you here?
And I'm like, do I really have to say this out loud?
And I was like, I was like, well, my ears are about to explode because apparently I have an infection in my inner ears.
And she's like, how the fuck would you get a yeast infection in your inner ears?
And I'm like, honey, do the math.
You know, I'm a full service guy.
And last night was an amazing time.
And now I'm paying for it.
You know, I don't do it.
Yeah, well, what was really funny is, you know, it's like I got like smirky looks from the women in the waiting room, like, hey, let us know when you're good again because hey, I'd like some of that action.
Oh, my God.
It says you can get infertile from chlamydia in a year, actually.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, so she didn't get tested for two.
Yeah, well, the thing is, chlamydia is not destructive.
You know, it's not a virus.
It's a protist.
It's a single-celled organism.
And, you know, like initially, there's supposed to be like, you know, signs like, you know, a discharge or whatever.
But if a woman blows that off, it goes away.
And what it does then is it climbs up the, you know, it propagates through the uterus, goes up the fallopian tubes, and essentially the fallopian tubes become cords.
They're scar tissue.
They're closed.
There's no way an egg's getting down through there.
And yeah, you know, it's like.
So did she have the chlamydia infection?
Like, was it active when she went and got to the doctor?
Well, from what her, from what my ex-mother-in-law told me, she set up an appointment for her to for her daughter to go to the doctor.
And instead of going to that appointment, she packed up all her shit and drove out to Oklahoma to live with her dad.
So basically, she went into denial and she just let that infection propagate, not knowing what it was going to do to her.
21 and infertile.
I met a girl that got infertile from taking too many plan B's that was around the same age.
You remember her dug MPA on the show?
Yeah, she had the green makeup on her eyes.
Yeah.
That's so weird.
Yeah.
She's nice, though.
Yeah.
Okay, Eric.
Well, you know, you can't, I don't think you can really judge people for the way microorganisms have their way with them because they're invisible.
You never know when you're going to pick something like that up.
That's why you got to get regularly tested, though.
Yeah, well, I mean, the other thing is if you've been diagnosed with, you know, something like that and you're still dating, it's kind of incumbent on you to let your date know that you've got this or that medical history, you know.
But yeah, it's a wacky world, man.
We're going to move to the next caller.
Thanks.
Thanks for calling in.
Damn, a yeast infection in his ears.
That's wild.
Yikes.
They will bring up.
Damn, he's really up there.
We're going to bring up Will.
Thank you.
Good.
How are you guys?
Good.
What's up, Will?
You got herpes or what?
No, fortunately not.
Two quick points, but before we get to that, dude, how did you get a yeast infection in your ear?
You know, we're just going to move on.
We're going to move on from that one.
Okay, we're just going to let that one go.
We're just going to let it.
That's one of those where you don't know what's worse.
The question having to be asked or the answer that you get.
So we're just going to move forward.
Okay.
Well, I got two quick stories to support some earlier points.
Okay.
The first is about gay men.
When I was in college, I was in a fraternity and we had a chef who was like a 50-year-old gay guy.
And this was in San Francisco, by the way, just to set the context.
Of course it is.
So we're sloshed one night and we're like, my dude, level with me.
How many men have you been with?
And he pauses for a second and he goes, somewhere between three and 5,000.
And I was like, what?
Bro, can you run the math?
How does that work?
And he explained to us that every weekend, Saturday and Sunday, for a period of like one or two decades, he would go to a bathhouse and every night he would bang like three to six guys.
And sure enough, we ran the math and we're like, yeah, that's literally in the thousands.
So I didn't say anything because I was trying to be polite, but in my brain, I'm like, that's how AIDS happens.
Like, that's where that comes from.
Just saying.
And did he get it?
I did not ask.
Okay.
Yeah, I know.
Sometimes I'll hear stories from guys and I'm like, there's no way you don't have something.
I'm like, there's girls too, but it's like.
Okay, so what about, you know, that's actually, if I ever had Bonnie Blue on, that's what I'd want to ask her about.
Bitch, show me your test results.
I don't believe you.
Yeah, that's the thing.
Not Bonnie Blue, but the other one.
You know who I'm talking about.
The 100 guys chick.
Yeah.
I think she was raw dogging them, wasn't she?
I don't think so.
Like, I saw after footage and there was like a bunch of condoms on the floor.
Oh, thank God.
Okay, because that, I mean, you don't want to be like a human Petri dish.
That's not cool.
You're that way either way.
So did you know anyone with herpes?
Yeah, I knew my other cousin, not cocaine cousin, but I have another cousin who's a stripper and she has herpes.
Okay.
And how does she date?
Does she tell the people or no?
Yeah, she uses websites.
There's like special websites for herpes people.
Okay, so she's actually honest about it.
Oh, good for her.
Well, sometimes.
I mean, she's in her 40s, but she's still kind of working the strip economy.
And I don't think she tells those guys.
In her 40s?
Well, she's Asian, right?
So she aged pretty good.
Oh, okay.
That'll do it.
That'll do.
Do you know anyone else with an STD or no?
Or like, have you ever dated girls and they told you they had one?
Actually, quick story about that.
Okay.
So I was living in, you know, Bay Area and I was like early 30s.
I'm six feet tall, pretty good with women.
There is an absolute ocean of mid women out there who are totally cool with you, raw dogging them.
Not saying I did it, but like they would not even bring up condoms, a lot of them.
I was kind of flabbergasted.
And did any of them catch anything from those decisions?
Well, I had a gal, I was with her a few times, and then she called me up and basically went nuts and accused me of giving her herpes.
And I was confused as hell because I'd been pretty responsible, and I was pretty darn sure I didn't have it.
But so for like three or four days, you know, I went and I go get tested, I paid $100, and it takes a few days to get the results.
For those three days, I'm sitting there, I'm sweating, and I'm like, oh my God, if I have herpes, who the hell did I catch it?
I'm trying to like do like the detective work in my brain of like, what is the sketchiest chick I banged how long ago was that?
Which other chicks happened since then?
You know what I'm saying?
And so for three days, I was freaking out only to have this chick call me back and then be like, oh, never mind.
It wasn't, it wasn't herpes.
I'm like, oh, cool.
Thanks.
Appreciate it.
Dang, so you like had a heart attack, basically.
Dude, I was dying.
And I had a lot of serious girlfriends during that time that I had, like, I'm like, oh, my God, am I going to have to go to like Elizabeth and the other one and tell her, like, hey, by the way, like, you know, we broke up on bad terms.
Well, there's one more thing you might want to know.
It's like, no.
Damn.
Okay.
So, but on date, how many, like, so you've never had a girl, though, on a date say she had it?
No, I mean, it's possible that some of them might have had it, but I happen to know that like transmission rates from women to men are super low.
Yeah, that's true.
This is the thing, too.
Like, the whole kind of all the, a lot of the info we're getting about STDs is sort of obscured by this kind of cloud of political crackness, right?
Like the whole AIDS thing.
They were trying to make it seem like, oh, anyone could get AIDS.
And it's like, it's kind of, it's kind of mostly gay guys.
And same thing with STDs, like normal stuff.
Like, if you're a guy and you're mostly having sex with like middle to upper class women who are like white and Asian, you're probably okay.
You know what I mean?
Like you don't have to be too nuts about watching out, basically.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Cool.
Cool.
That's pretty much it.
Doug MPA, you got anything else for him?
Nope.
Thanks for calling in Google.
I was good to hear from you.
Thanks, guys.
Thanks.
Thanks for calling in.
It's like the rain is on and off here.
Next up is Joker.
Are you there?
Hello.
Hey, Joker, what's going on?
Yeah, I've been hearing.
I'm sorry with my voice.
Long story.
But anyways, I'm a retired independent duty corporate in the Navy.
I'm a healthcare provider.
Okay.
And I worked as a physician assistant in the community.
There is, wow, there's so much information out there.
And some of it is correct, someone is not.
That has been stated.
I mean, like, for example, that if you are hooking up with, you know, upper class white females, you're probably okay.
No, I was thinking the same thing.
That is incorrect.
You know, I mean, I can tell you stories of crap that I saw.
And I get a couple of people on the chat that are, I guess, private service.
And they can agree with this because they will know how it goes, especially if they're ever going on deployment or on a ship.
My goodness.
When they come home, the SD clinic is just overbooks.
Give it about a week and they're done.
Most commons are usually chlamydia, chlamydia and gonorrhea.
Sometimes herpes is, you know, it depends if it, because somebody can literally have herpes.
For a whole year, I have no noticeable symptoms because of the way it shows up.
For example, you get sores inside the vagina and you have no sex, no for no contact.
You can literally have a, you know, an outbreak and be unaware of it because, you know, urine doesn't concentrate, so it doesn't get irritated.
So it is possible.
Now, with chlamydia, also, there's two things.
Usually, if you have chlamydia, you have something called mycoplasma, which is we call it non-gononcoccal urethritis.
And sometimes they go hand to hand.
And also on that one, the symptoms are very similar.
And because you can go to a clinic and get tested for SCDs, and because you're not testing for microplasma, mycoplasma, it will not come because mycoplasma is a virus versus the other one is not.
So, and it's not something that you check, you know, you make it a standard.
That's why in the military, when somebody passed positive with an SCD, we automatically hit you with several antibiotics just to cover your bases.
Also, go ahead.
Also, on HIV, anybody, it's not just gay guys.
That used to be the case, how your region is, you know, got promulgated.
Nowadays, it doesn't matter because you could have what we call, you know, these guys that like to go both ways and go with a woman and give it to her.
Now, HIV, nobody will ever die of HIV.
Problem is when HIV turns into AIDS.
Because HIV is just the state of carrying the virus.
AIDS is when it wakes up.
You can die.
As a matter of fact, I have a personal story on that.
My brother, who is gay, didn't want to listen to my advice, didn't want to listen to take care.
You know, because he will go, oh, another misconception that HIV is curable.
So therefore, it doesn't matter.
No, it's not curable.
You can take medications that blocks the promulgation of the virus to get it to a point that it's undetectable.
But if you stop taking that medication, it comes back.
And in some countries, that treatment is so expensive.
That's why people die of AIDS a lot in Africa.
That's unfortunately a sad truth.
But in my case, my brother, he wouldn't stop having unprotected sex.
And last year, gave me a call crying because he developed into AIDS.
And last night he called me that he wants to see me because he's very sick because of it.
Because AIDS, what he does, is just off your immune system.
So anything, including a bad cold, can kill you.
How old is he?
And did you say he's gay?
Yes.
He's gay.
You know, I'm not completely, I don't approve of it.
But, you know, he's my brother, tried to give him advice.
I mean, I wasn't going to be able to talk him off of him.
He's 58.
Well, so he actually made it pretty old without getting it, right?
Yeah, he's 58.
Yeah, and he's got a bad case of hepatitis.
And because he has no immune system, it's become complicated.
And he's in the hospital.
So you can die from it.
Okay.
And so you said you worked at an STD clinic in the military?
No, no, no, no.
Is that right?
In the military, you have doctors, physician assistants, independent duty corpsmen, nurses, and then corpsmen in the Navy.
Our training is above a nurse practitioner.
And we're just below a PA.
The reason we are not PAs is because the way we developed is the military needed to send a provider to the front lines, but it is illegal to send somebody, a provider, to the front lines.
Okay.
Because, you know, you cannot carry a rifle.
It goes against the Geneva Convention.
So the Navy circumvented that by the medical corpsman, right?
But yes, by sending, well, a corpsman is no longer a non-combatant.
Now you consider a combatant.
So what they've done is they send a senior corpsman to medical school.
Did you before you graduate?
Yeah, it's okay.
I don't, that's okay.
I don't need all the details.
I just want to say that.
No, but anyways, healthcare provider.
Yeah, yeah.
So I suck quite a lot of that.
So did you say you got herpes?
And you didn't have symptoms for a year?
Is that what you do?
No, no, no, no.
Herpes, herpes, you can literally have it without it here.
I mean, I had couples come in, you know, young couples, angry at each other because they wanted to blame each other.
Oh, for giving up.
But the problem is, because it can literally, you can go a whole year in some instances and not know it, or sometimes not even have an outbreak.
So what persona, in your experience, out of 10 people that get herpes, how many have outbreaks right away and how many it's prolonged, like they don't get it right away?
The ones that don't get it right away, pretty small percentage.
Okay, so the ones that get it is within anywhere within seven, seven, like a week to a month.
In my interviews, that was pretty consistent in what they said too.
So like most of the people I interviewed, it was pretty, yeah.
Yeah, and that's unfortunately the fact.
And in young couples like that, I would have to cancel them and say, you know what?
Because of that, I mean, it's kind of because the girl was, that was her first boyfriend, but the boyfriend was really pissed because he gave her.
And I talked to her and one-on-one and she was pretty straightforward.
And he could have got it from the girlfriend that probably she had many guys, give it to him, that have a symptom for a year, and then give it to her.
And then, boom, she has an outbreak.
Dang.
So in those cases, you got to kind of be a little cautious because you don't want to put blame because it can happen, unfortunately.
Also, here's the thing: 90% of the population has HSV-1.
It used to be considered an STD.
It no longer.
Now, you can have a really bad case of one and go down on a woman.
And guess what?
And then it goes.
Yeah.
Because now you have those really bad open source, which people think they're, oh, it's just a cold sore.
No such thing as a cold sore.
You know, sometimes when people are going to get them, they feel sick, like they're about to get a cold.
And, you know, and then it comes up.
That's why they call it fever blisters.
So if a guy, if a guy, if a guy or a girl are dating and they know they're going to be sexually active, are there any ways to really prevent, like, other than like, obviously wear a condom, but is there anything further people can do in your perspective?
Other than being honest and both.
Yeah, but people are going to lie.
So let's not, you know.
Now, if, and if both want to be very upfront with somebody, they can both have an STD, you know, go get it tested.
But people aren't going to do that.
So like I'm just saying realistically, yeah.
People have to respect themselves, though.
I mean, I personally, if I don't know the person, I won't, I won't do it.
And if somebody that is questionable, I'll stay lucky.
Yeah, I have to get this, you'll go get it.
Look, I understand, but I'm saying pragmatically, what's going on now is people are hooking up first to third day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I'm just asking if there's things they should look for when they're hooking up, where if they see a certain something, they should stop.
Okay.
If there's like, if there's, you know, showering after, does that help?
Like, what are your, do you have any just working in health?
Really not.
But what can help is, you know, if you are, because I always say, you know what?
I'm sorry, but if you can't, if you can't put it in your mouth, you shouldn't, you shouldn't put it in your genitals.
And, you know, pretend like you're going to go down.
And if there's a really funky smell, maybe you should not do it.
Other than that, because there's two, you know, like, for example, that trichomonas that can give you a really foul smell, really foul smell.
Okay.
Bacterio machinosis can also give you a horrible smell.
But the one for trichomonas, my God, that, I mean, it's pretty foul.
Okay.
Horrible foul.
Okay.
So, oh, and if you see a like a whitish, thick discharge, you know, you might want to, you know, you might want to kind of like, you know, maybe put on a condom.
Okay.
White, thick discharge.
Okay.
If it's clear, frothy, kind of like, kind of like clear, but it's got like bubbles in it, you might want to put a condom.
Okay.
Okay.
Because that's usually what that's good, best practices.
Go ahead, you know, because that's usually what trichomonas looks like.
And when you have trichomonas, you could also have chlamydia, which you know is in a percentage of women have no symptoms.
Yeah, don't ask me why.
The most pulled when I've pulled chlamydia is the most common one I've gotten back that people have gotten when I would have pulled.
But yeah, go ahead.
Anchlamedia, no, our chlamydia can also sorry, when you have chlamydia, you should always take the mycoplasma infection because it's a virus because they tend to go hand to hand.
You know, it's just the way it is.
But there's other things that you have to worry about.
For example, nobody's talked to talked about something called molluscum contagusum.
Oh, what?
And molluscum contagusum.
Okay.
Okay.
I top it in your chat.
It's called, let me see, molluscum.
You can just look for molluscum.
Okay.
It's kind of like when you talk about like shellfish, it's kind of like some of them are molluscum or mollusc.
It's kind of molluscum contagiusum.
And those are like this, this little albaric.
They're like this pearly albrick with this, with a hollow center.
I was like, you don't have to look at it.
And when you get it, man, you'll know it because if you scratch it, it bleeds a lot.
And wherever that blood goes, new ones come out within a couple of days.
So best thing is not to touch it, go see a doctor.
If it gets really bad, they can't.
You drug that.
That is disgusting.
You looked at it?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And I had it once.
And I tell you.
And there's no antibiotics that you can take.
This is a local topical treatment that you got.
Got it from a girlfriend that, you know, and I didn't see anything from her, but I guess she had a tiny little one.
And boom, there it goes.
But then once they go away, they go away.
Okay.
I mean, anything else, any questions you ask when?
I mean, I think we covered attractive people for some reason.
And we talked to this in the clinic.
Our theory is because what we saw was usually whenever we had a very attractive woman coming in, they have more than one form of STD.
And the reason is women, by its nature, they tend to be a little more cautious when it comes to sex.
And you usually see a very attractive woman with a medium to a very attractive man.
And those men are the ones that are getting laid a lot.
And they, unfortunately, some of them tend to cheat.
And what we saw in the Navy is the ship we go six months later, they'll come in to port.
And within a week, we'll have the wives.
And a lot of them were very attractive, the ones that had SEDs because of the husbands.
Right.
A lot of them because they went to Thailand.
Did you see attractive people coming in more than like medium people, attractive people?
I was just wondering because my thought process was if the hottest girls are banging the hottest guys and they probably have more STDs.
That's what I was saying.
Yeah.
You know, they usually have somebody is and it's usually because of the guy.
It's usually not the woman.
Which is, I say, usually doesn't exclude them, but it's just what you see what happens.
Okay.
Let me see.
What other facial decisions?
Let me see.
I mean, I have cases in which people will try to convince their wives that I'm wanting me to agree with that they got it from sitting on a toilet, like the old wife's tail.
And I'd be like, look at him, like you got to give him credit for trying though, right?
Yeah.
Did you help him out?
Did you help him out?
Oh, hell no.
Hell no.
Okay.
Here's a funny story.
Okay.
Haramarine came to the clinic.
He goes in and he's like, Doc, you got to help me.
You got to help me.
I've never done this.
But my wife went home for 30 days and I went to the club.
And, you know, I was too drunk, blah, blah, blah.
Okay.
All right.
You give him that.
But whether it's true or not, you're still going to treat him.
And so, and he got treated, taken care of.
Two months later, wife goes back home for another 30 days.
He comes back for the same crap.
All right.
So now I'm like, okay, I have to cancel this guy.
Like, be stern with him.
Like, put rank on him.
All right.
He goes.
He does it again in three more months.
Jesus.
He comes in and like, Doc, my wife's going to kill.
I'm like, okay, no problem.
I'll take care of you.
So I added to because you can medications, you know, some of these things you can treat him with just plain penicillin.
So I made sure I got the penicillin, the gel, that thick thing that leaves you like a gallball in your butt for like freaking three weeks.
And then I found I instead of using the regular needle, I adopted the biggest freaking needle I could find, like a freaking harpoon.
Wow.
Got him.
The guy turned ashy pale.
The guy was, you know, black.
Man, he almost turned like Eskimo white.
Here's what he never came back to the clinic.
Yeah, because he didn't want to go through that again.
Oh, no, no.
He was cured.
He was cured.
Because I used a 14-gauge needle.
If you look at a 14-gauge needle, see, I mean, that's what you use in trauma cases that you need a large bore intervention, you know, fluids, and you put it in the neck.
They look like half the size of a pencil.
Man, I was 84.
More ridiculous than that one.
Yeah, he has never came back after that.
Okay.
But I mean, we're getting close to wrapping up the show because we're almost at the three-hour mark, but thank you for calling a joke.
We really appreciate it.
Thanks for all the knowledge.
Yeah, I need providers on this.
No problem.
Yeah, we're gonna.
That same topic, let me know.
Yeah, sure.
We do us.
We're gonna do more shows on different STDs.
So today's herpes and HIV, but we hop.
We'll have more.
Don't worry.
All right.
Sounds good.
All right.
Have a good one.
Bless you.
God bless you guys.
Bye.
All these knowledgeable people on here.
I know.
I love it when people in the clinics call in because they just have the they see so much more, you know.
Like they're going to have, you know, I interviewed like maybe five, six people.
I have to think through it, but you know, they see six people a day.
You know what I mean?
At least.
The clinic people?
Yeah.
I mean, they're going to see.
No, no, no, it's more than that.
Are you crazy?
I said at least.
Six people a day.
So just so you know, in the private sector at a doctor's office, they'll see 20 people a day.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
I was saying, I was just doing the comparison.
It's like they get more things in a day than I do.
Cool.
We're coming up on two hours, 45 minutes.
Do you want to take more callers?
We have one, two, three, three more people on the line.
Sure, we can take another.
Okay.
I've never seen.
Let's just try to wrap them up.
Like, not like just do smaller.
Or sorry.
Michael's coming in.
Michael is connecting his audio.
We're going to do four minutes or less for all the remaining callers.
What up, Michael?
You got herpes?
His audio is connecting.
Connecting to audio.
What a way to start the call, right?
I just feel like, let's get right to it.
Who's got it?
Is it you or someone you know?
Okay.
Michael audio is connecting, going once, going twice, going three times, and back in the waiting room.
And let's see.
Gary coming in.
Gary, are you there?
Hello.
Hey, Gary, how's it going?
Good.
Your audio sounded.
My audio is kind of bad.
I can hear you now.
No, it's still kind of scratchy.
Oh, boy.
Not at all.
We're going to have to drop you when you figure it out, all right?
Okay.
And last but not least, we have our good friend, Brad.
Hey, Brad, how you doing, buddy?
Hey, nice to talk to you guys again.
How's it going, Brad?
Do you got the gift that keeps on giving?
Well, as far as I know, I'm herpes-free.
But, you know, like so many people out there have said, they don't necessarily get disclosure.
So I was married faithfully on my end for over 30 years.
And I didn't find out until we were a couple years into the marriage and we were expecting our first child that when she went to the OBGYN, they put her on a high-risk pregnancy rating.
What the heck is that all about?
Well, apparently they're under no need or no push to disclose even to a husband that there's potentially something, an STD or something going on down there.
Apparently, she had one of the forms of HPV, and it was noticeable to the doctors that she had something called cervical dysplasia, which I had no idea what that was about.
And nobody was forthcoming as far as information, as far as what that is.
But it's the other viral thing that's HPV as opposed to the HSV one or two.
And it results in warts and sores and some things like that, which can make you susceptible to some of the other things.
So that was one area.
Then the other thing was further along into the marriage, around our 25th anniversary, she carried on a secret affair with a guy where she managed, in spite of still having two kids living at home, to arrange to go grocery shopping and shopping in town and be gone for four hours and hook up with a guy on the other end of town and was carrying on a secret affair that none of us in the family had a clue about for almost two years.
And when she, when I finally caught them in the act, I said, you know, I just realized you weren't using any protection, were you?
I mean, this, who knows what this, this guy you're with, I mean, you just assume he's free and clear, but, you know, who knows what he's got?
You need before we get back into bed ever again, because we were talking about reconciling.
Not that I wanted to simp, but we had 25 years invested in it and four kids behind us.
And, you know, I was willing to, you know, still give it a shot if she was.
So, yeah, it never occurred to her.
It was like the light bulb went.
You could literally see the light bulb light up over her head like in a cartoon.
It was like, oh, oh, okay.
Oh, yeah.
So she then went to the doctor to get tests run.
And up until that time, it was like, you know, hands and everything else off because who knows what I was subjected to.
So I may or may not.
Did she come back clean or no?
Yeah, she did come back clean, which amazed me because one of the things that was kind of like a side benefit, if you can believe it, of the aftermath of the affair was that, you know, she still was not in a position financially yet, if I'd kicked her to the curb to make it on her own.
So she still had a vested interest in, you know, trying to make nice with me so that, you know, I would keep a roof over her head and keep her supplied with the dailies.
So she also at that point had nothing morally to lose because all the pretenses she'd been making about being such a good girl kind of went out the window.
So I inquired further into her past.
I knew she'd been active in her teens and she admitted to me she never used contraception, never used protection.
I don't know how that girl went through all the years of high school and up until we got married without catching something, but apparently she did catch HPV.
Fortunately, it doesn't seem like she got anything worse than that.
Well, when they're younger, they can fight it off easier.
So if she had a hoe phase in like high school, you're less likely to.
Well, there's I think you're more likely to get it because they have more STDs.
Like I think people use protection more when they get older.
But the girls have stronger immune systems when they're younger, if that makes sense.
So like if she was in shape, like sometimes they can just fight it off.
Well, you know, going back, you know, I've mentioned before, I've been on your talk line before, going back into the 70s, there was a lot of promiscuity going on.
And so, you know, there was a girl in my class that had to leave early because she was pregnant.
And we did have people that the big thing back then was syphilis and gonorrhea, which was absolutely nasty.
And there were cases where people get tagged with that.
So I'm not sure.
I mean, I just, you know, I just marveled at the fact that it wasn't, we didn't wind up having to deal with anything worse.
But it never occurred to her, even as a husband, you know, of a wife that, you know, she could potentially, by her fooling around, bring something home that I didn't ask for.
How old was she when she was pregnant?
Like, how old was she when she got the HPV?
Well, let's see, we got married based on where the months of our birth years fall.
She was 20 and I was 21.
Oh, wow.
She did HPV that early.
I heard you don't get, because I spoke to a doctor about HPV, and they said late, mid to late 30s is usually when women get that.
So if she had that at 21, she must have started early.
She ran through a bunch of people.
I mean, originally, you know, there was not a lot of disclosure.
And because I thought I knew her off and on from the time we were in our preteens, that I had a pretty good idea who she was.
But I, you know, we went to two different high schools.
And so her group of people she circulated with were not directly connected to mine.
And I didn't have a constant eye on her.
So I had no idea.
She was very, very promiscuous.
And I didn't find out until later a little bit more detail once we were married.
And she felt like she didn't have anything to lose by giving me much more disclosure and details and that it would actually maybe help her situation.
Because, you know, I could have kicked her to the curb at that point and said, hey, look, I'm going to divorce you on the grounds of unfaithfulness.
And then she wouldn't have had a leg to stand on and that she wasn't ready for that.
But I did have two friends when I was coming up in the 80s, right after we got out of school.
One was about 10 years older than me.
So he was in his early to mid-30s and he drove a limo for a living.
And he got, it went back in those days, like your previous caller mentioned, it didn't hang around as HIV.
It went straight into full-blown AIDS.
And these guys, they lost weight.
You could see physically how the body was like deteriorating from the inside out.
And then, you know, one day they were no longer in the public eye.
And the other one was, he was a fellow I went to high school with.
He was a classmate.
His family and I were good friends.
I was close with his parents and his older brother.
And they moved him out of the hospital during the end of his life into a hospital bed downstairs in what used to be the family den and had like a miniature hospital room set up for him there.
And he literally wasted away.
I mean, his eyes clouded over like he had glaucoma, his cheeks sunk in.
Were they both gay?
See, that's the thing.
They were both married.
Oh, now the younger one.
Maybe I'm not sure.
Yeah, the younger one said his wife would was, his wife went off in a storm because she said she tested after he was diagnosed with it, and she was tested with full-blown AIDS.
And so it was basically like, you've killed me.
And I don't blame her.
She wouldn't talk to him ever again.
So in that circumstance, the claim was that, you know, he was the one that contracted it.
We don't know in either case because they were both supposedly publicly, they were straight men with wives, whether they were on the down low by curious or having gay sex on the side or whether they contracted it from a woman.
Were they screwed?
I mean, obviously.
Like, would you guess?
Were they fruity or no?
No, not really.
I mean, they were, of course, back in those days, especially, you know, we had expressions like smear the queer and bag the fag.
I mean, if anybody even seemed like you got to watch the language, man.
You can't drop that F word.
Which one?
The F word.
Oh, the F. I'm sorry about that.
Don't ever say that.
Okay.
Okay.
I get it.
I forget we're in different times.
And it's just word.
Okay.
Well, so we had those two inappropriate expressions back then.
And I don't support the use of them.
And I know this channel doesn't, but it just goes to show the hostility that was openly out there in those days.
And people got beaten up even on the suspicion of something like that.
So any conversation, you know, that might have revealed something along those lines was very, very, very guarded.
Yeah.
Okay.
Cool.
Well, thanks for calling in and telling us the stories.
I appreciate it.
Absolutely.
You all have a good night and thanks again.
Yeah, you too.
I was good talking to you, buddy.
I'm going to read the super chat.
Okay.
These people are at parties alone or hanging out with someone who knows nothing about their sex life.
Percent of the population is a false statement.
If you see a hot woman who's promiscuous, she promiscuous, she is that percent.
Whether she's one out of 20 or one out of four, all these people are loners.
Oh, actually, when you're talking about the bye guys, I don't know if I told you this story before.
When I was single, I was on a dating app and I matched with a guy at my gym, but I just unmatched him because I don't know.
I like looked closer at the profile and like him in person.
I just changed my mind.
I was like, no.
And anyways, long story short, I was working out at the gym and someone, I never talked to him like in person.
Like we just matched on the app for a day unmatched.
That was it.
And I'd never spoken to him in person, but someone I knew introduced me to him a different day.
And they're like, oh, and that's his boyfriend.
And I was like, oh my God, that's how women get AIDS.
It was like, oh, my God.
Yep.
100%.
Yeah, because I was like, what the why are you on bumble?
All right, hi, Pearl.
So a condom doesn't cover the base of the twig or the berries, which is the area that gets the most friction and grinding.
So don't risk it.
Well, everyone's got to risk it to some extent if you're going to be celibate forever.
You don't know.
That's the thing.
I don't know a lot of women disqualify bisexual men as they should.
But a lot of guys who's bi.
I'm not down for that either, man.
No.
Anyone that has that weird kind of sexuality, confusion, fluid crap, no, thanks.
New?
Sorry.
Avery, I'm glad no one wants to do me wisdom king for HSV.
Take oh, wait, I read that already.
Is there any more callers?
We have Alex is the last caller.
Okay.
Is that the guy that had the audio issues?
No, that's Gary.
You try to bring him up after Alex.
We can, but let's just keep it short.
Okay.
Alex is coming up.
It says joining.
It says joining.
Okay, we'll try to bring Gary up while Alex is joining.
All right, Gary, I'm trying you again.
Your audio better be okay.
Gary?
Yeah.
Am I better?
Oh, so much better.
What's up, Gary?
You got herpes?
No, no herpes for me.
I do have a story.
I got actually, I got a confession.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Someone.
Hello.
Someone killed.
Yeah.
I'm kidding.
What's the confession?
Well, I'm like hearing, I'm hearing the stream.
You have YouTube open in the background somewhere.
Okay, I got it.
Sorry about that.
So, yeah, basically, I do not have herpes as far as I know.
My confession, though, is that listening to this stream, it did give me, I did a lot of Googling while the stream was going on.
And like, I am a bit concerned.
I'm probably going to get myself tested this week because apparently you could have herpes and be asymptomatic.
So, I mean, I've never had an outbreak, but I also like do not routinely get tested.
And I do routinely hook up.
And I actually wanted to, I guess, I'm going to snitch a little bit too because when I hear people talk about like their condom use and that kind of stuff, it makes me question if they're even getting laid.
Because I don't think people are using condoms.
In my experience, most people are not.
And in fact, the last time I could even remember myself suggesting using a condom, like the woman in question, she took it as an offense.
And the time before that, it was kind of the same deal.
That like me suggesting it or pulling it out was kind of like I just brought into the conversation the idea of STDs when really, especially if you're going to sleep together after just a short period of time, it's kind of like, well, you're vibing and everything's good.
So we like each other.
It's almost awkward.
And it's treated that way.
Yeah, nobody's going to.
That's why the guy was saying to get tested first.
I'm like, nobody's going to do that.
Like they're just not.
Yeah.
And in fact, so like I do have some sense of my cleanliness, I guess, because like I've been in three long-term relationships, I guess, over the past decade.
And then each time, which is honestly laughable, when we were getting more serious at all three times, and I guess it makes sense because if I intend to get serious with somebody, I'm a little bit like I'm honest and I and we talk about our past a bit.
I mean, I don't ever think that I've gotten a full Carfax on a girl.
That's not something they really do.
But there typically is a conversation where we talk about what exclusivity looks like and that kind of stuff.
And then all three of my last relationships, they asked me to get tested.
And then confession time, again, I did not get tested.
I literally just waited for them to get tested.
And once they said they were good, I was like, yeah, I'm good too.
Because I mean, we'd already been sleeping together for like two to three months.
So I'd imagine I must not have anything or I would have given it to them.
So, how often do you get tested?
I've never been.
I got tested once in college and not clear.
I don't get tested, but to me, it's like I like what, like the last guy, the last medical guy, he made me feel a little bit better because I definitely, number one, I don't, I've never gone down on a chick unless we were in a relationship.
Again, I know that's not like a great barrier as far as protection goes, but then I also do like a visual inspection.
Like, I don't, I don't really interact in any way if anything seems off visually.
And again, have you ever gotten there and changed your mind?
Like you saw something or like, yeah, absolutely.
Really?
What'd you see?
I've seen something questionable on the thigh.
And like, I actually, when it, when you talk about herpes, so I got two quick stories.
One, actually, one, it's not a story, but the one closest person to me that I knew that had herpes, I had a boss, and we actually ran like a logistics company.
It was his company, but it was a small company.
So we actually used to dispatch out of his house and like his home office.
And I like had been working in his office at one point when he was dealing with an outbreak and he was kind of giving me the play-by-play as he was like treating himself.
And he was like, specifically, it was very much centered on his thighs.
So that made me aware that, oh, I didn't even know that.
I thought, like, genital herpes makes me think it's on your genitals, right?
Yeah.
He, his were not on his junk, it was on his thigh.
So at one point, I was getting with a chick, and then, yeah, I saw something questionable on her thigh, and I just made an excuse and got out of there.
I said I didn't feel good, which was true, actually.
Yeah, I was like, I actually think I'm going to throw up, which I wasn't that sick, but I really felt like, oh my God, like I dodged a bullet because I mean, the thigh is almost scarier.
Because how are you not going to come in contact with somebody's thigh?
What was it?
Like a blister?
I never got close enough to really be able to tell, but it looked just red and agitated.
Honestly, it could have been a bad bug bite, but from as far as I was sitting, you weren't testing it.
You were like, no, I'm not going to find out today.
Never talked to her again either.
And I have actually a story just from a couple of weeks ago.
I matched with a girl on a dating app and we talked for like three, four days, set up a date.
And then literally, as I was getting ready to leave my house, she messaged me and said, hey, by the way, I have the herb.
Is that a deal break?
I honestly debated whether I was even going to message her back, but I did.
I did let her know that, yeah, absolutely.
It's a deal breaker.
But it really, like, since then, I have not used the apps and I probably will return at some point.
But it's scary out there.
I could only imagine I'm like, they say that men are less susceptible to this stuff.
And I can only imagine that at some point, I probably slept with somebody that has something and I've just been dodging bullets.
And maybe not.
Like, I'm going to get tested.
And I don't know how I feel about the whole hooking up thing.
But well, how many women do you hook up with a year, would you say?
It's it obviously depends on the year.
Not a crazy amount.
Like, because I honestly, so again, confession time, part of the reason I almost cannot use condoms is because just like, I guess, the combination of hookup culture and corn, like I can't get stimulated enough to even finish when I don't have the condom on, or sorry, when I do have the condom on.
And then I, again, that actually, and I think I've talked to other guys that have this problem, but I never hear it talked about in red pill spaces is that if you if you use a condom and then you can't finish, girls take offense to that too.
It's almost like you're inadvertently calling them ugly.
And it's like, why can't you finish?
And what's wrong with me?
And they literally will like start having kind of an existential crisis type of thing.
And like all of a sudden, now you have to like reassure them that they're beautiful, they're desirable and all this different stuff.
When it's like, to me, it's just simpler to just take the condom off.
And honestly, I really only hook up when I just feel like I'm kind of been dry for a while.
So going back to your original question, last year, I actually, I had a girlfriend for half of the year.
And then when I was single, I probably hooked up with like six or seven chicks.
Okay.
Well, it's not like you're like, so that's in a year seven or eight.
Well, that's not like, I've heard worse.
So.
Yeah, no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not Chad or Tyrone.
But that, that's, that to me, though, it actually is more telling because well, it's also how many times did you hook up with them?
Because like we said earlier, like if someone has something and you hook up with them once, you're not really that likely to get it.
Right.
And it's also, it's also too when they got infected, because if they were just infected, they're more likely to spread it.
But if the girl caught it like five years ago, it's not really that likely that she'll spread it, allegedly, according to what I've read.
You know, I'm not a doctor.
Pearl, you're making me feel better about this, which is not a good thing.
I'm just going to keep doing more risky stuff.
Well, I hope you're right.
Well, I mean, well, I hope you know that if you do get it, a lot of the guys just lie and keep having sex.
See, and that was the last point.
And I will finish here is that what I was thinking is that, like, I have, again, as a guy, we don't care about how attractive our friends are.
I have friends that are very successful with women, much more successful than me.
And I have friends that are, that they struggle really bad.
So, based on outcomes, I'd imagine that I'm probably somewhere in the top 25.
And again, that's just based on how women judge us superficially on an app.
Like, I don't imagine I'm just better than this many people, but my results are probably in the top 25.
I know guys that are probably in the top five, or maybe even.
Yeah, like let's say top five, because it's hard to know who's in the top 1%.
That's probably like athletes and rappers and stuff like that.
None of my friends are people like that.
And do you know of any of them having STD scares?
But it's also tough because people are- not even scares.
100%.
My biggest player friends have basically all been burnt before.
Really?
Every single one of them.
Yeah.
And they've been lucky enough to not get herpes, as far as I know, or they might not have told me.
But they've almost all gone chlamydia.
Yeah.
Common one.
Yeah, gonorrhea, which I guess they don't necessarily get symptoms from.
Yeah, chlamydia gonorrhea, no symptoms for most people.
But that two aren't bad, is what I've heard.
Is like you take an antibiotic and it's done.
It's not like herpes or HIV, which kills you.
Yeah, exactly.
And that's, yeah, going back to the HIV thing, too.
I've never, like, I've never in like, I guess, 22 years of being sexually active, I've never known of a straight person to have HIV.
I haven't either.
Oh, I don't know anybody.
Wait, so your player friends, though, none of them.
I can second that too.
I've never met.
Do you think your player?
Do you think your player friend would tell you if they got herpes?
I think they would.
Yeah.
I think they'd be ashamed, but I mean, we tell each other pretty much everything.
And like, especially like some of them are even more like, it's almost like they enjoy the kind of grotesque conversation.
So I'd imagine they, some of them would have told me for sure.
I question if others would have also be as honest in that case.
Do they wear condoms, the player friends?
No.
Okay.
And again, girls don't like it.
I mean, and honestly, I think my, like the player guys, if you can get a, if you get a girl to like you enough in a short period of time, then I think that you'd probably also get her to be okay with the condoms.
But that's kind of why I referenced them in the first place because to me, I know I'm not like that top 5% guy.
So like I, I, I know that I'm actually risking messing up the whole encounter by trying to push the condom.
Because it's almost like a lot of times I can see the level of attraction that I have going on.
It's almost like I've passed the barrier of yes, they will sleep with me.
Yeah.
But if I if I do something to weird, make this situation weird, it could all go away.
So like I know, I know, imagine asking for an STD tab.
Like that is not going to happen.
Like, come on.
Oh, you're offending them.
You're telling her she's dirty or like something made you're pussy.
They're not.
So I forgot one of the callers said that.
I'm like, yeah, good luck.
I'm just going to have like a mini test kit by the bed, a little consent form right by the candle.
Yeah, I know.
But yeah, I just wanted to mention that because it is always odd to me that when the condom conversation comes up, because again, I don't imagine that all these guys who are either like the red pill content producers or the people that you see interacting like in call-in shows, that they're all top 1% because I just don't think the average guy can whip out a condom and not mess up the whole situation.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't sleep with women.
Doug MPA, do you have thoughts on that with women in condoms?
They say there are major cities like Atlanta, Baltimore, where the women will take offense if you try to whip out one.
And my opinion, just use them, especially on the first couple of days, man.
Especially if you're banging a girl on the first night, you gotta have one, man.
Come on now.
Well, you see, the problem is, Doug, is like I said, is that I typically only kind of dip my foot back in the dating pool when I'm like trying to like bust the slump or like, so it's like, for me to just be like adding in layers of protection, it's also like I'm wasting more of my time just trying to like clear the pipes, you know?
Well, you know, you could get the gift that keeps on giving.
No, you're right.
You're right.
No, this show, honestly, it's made me really consider either just taking the hit and putting in the extra time that it would take to have condoms be a thing or just like not care as much about hooking up because it is it is a minefield out there.
Even like I live in, should we say what city we live in?
Does it matter?
If you want, yeah, go ahead.
Yeah, so I live in Phoenix.
I was originally from Canada and I moved here when I was 21.
So I was just old enough to go out and drink and go to the bars and stuff like that.
And like the first couple of months that I lived here, I had like picked up a chick for the first time and went back to her place.
And this girl was like maybe just slightly above average looking.
She, if I think most people, if they saw her, they would probably assume this is the kind of girl that is not promiscuous.
She was, long story short.
And then after we hooked up, like I kind of expressed to her that like, I'm surprised that things progressed as quickly as they did.
And then she proceeded to tell me about one of her friends who she showed me as well, who did absolutely, like, she looked like a librarian.
She actually was a librarian.
She looked like the kind of girl that you would probably have to date for months before she gave it up.