Candace Owens and Pearl Reid clash over gender dynamics, with Pearl citing 74% female-initiated divorces and "courts of equity" favoring women, while Owens argues feminism undermines traditional family structures, linking men’s despair—suicide, overdose—to societal rejection. Owens claims women prioritize careers over motherhood, fueled by CIA-backed movements in the 1950s–60s, but Reid counters with S&P 500 CEO stats (90% male) and women’s growing economic influence (85% of household spending). The debate exposes tensions between systemic patriarchy claims and biological role arguments, ending with Owens’ controversial "gynocentric nut jobs" dating advice and a fundraising push for a divorce documentary at $31K of $100K. [Automatically generated summary]
Online of a dozen women being asked the following question.
Do we need men?
Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless.
This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
Most young men are single.
Most young women are not.
Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
It's a different world now.
Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.
The future is female.
Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
You've kind of got the Trad COD versus Red Pill thing.
This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
Oh, you need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
Marriage is a bond and it's a sacred bond.
It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
Hannah Pearl Davis or just pearly things.
One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
Gee, what could go wrong there?
74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
You need no evidence.
When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for, and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
I interview them on the other side.
I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
How much did you spend trying to get him back?
The legal fees alone was about $200,000.
Before you know it, you're homeless.
You're literally just thrown out into the street.
We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
Wives are taught to leave their husbands and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
Family is the foundation of the society.
Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
A lot of women will just chase this negative rapid hole of happiness, endless happiness.
Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.
We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
We tell them to put off family into marriage.
You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.
You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
Oh, freeze your ex, have an abortion.
What?
You're evil.
I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.
Like if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic, naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.
It's self-sabotage.
That's the thing.
Like women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.
This is not about happiness.
The most important thing is the children.
And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me, my feelings, leave when I feel like it instead of doing what's best for the kids.
This myth that we live in an age of male privilege.
What is my male privilege?
They think, well, men have all the rights.
They have all the power.
Privilege, patriarchal system that we have.
Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.
Men are alone in this situation.
Men are homeless.
Men are thinking about eating guns.
I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide and they didn't do anything wrong.
How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
Women are helplessly dependent upon men.
The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, or alcohol, three times higher among men than among women.
Culture is telling men, you are no good.
You got to get your act together.
I think men have failed themselves.
What kind of a man are you?
What kind of a woman are you going to attract?
If men are in trouble, so are women.
Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.
Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man for you.
500K, 500, 300K, 300K, 200K.
Am I crazy?
Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
So, you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
Women.
I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
I'm over it.
When is it going to be my turn?
Where are we meeting the men that don't stop?
I can't keep having these same conversations.
The only simp here is you, Pearl.
You sent for women.
I think you sent for women.
She's a provocateur.
She says stupid stuff, but Pearl is right about this.
It's already happening.
It's just not out in the open yet.
Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband.
The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
We go into population decline and our economy goes into decline.
Civilization will crumble.
The American story does not end well.
This is an existential crisis failing young men.
Do you have a message you want to send your ex-wife?
Do you think, wow, I wish I could tell her something terrible.
Well, have me do it for you in this divorce documentary for, you know, a small donation of $20,000.
We will let you send a personalized message to your wife in this divorce documentary.
Assuming I can't get sued, I'll have a legal look at it first.
But you can call her a bitch.
I don't think that's illegal.
So, you know, the GoFundMe is in the description.
We got $31,000 raised.
Thank you, everybody.
As you guys know, because I want to put out this documentary, they have deplatformed me.
They have demonetized me.
I'm surprised I haven't been thrown in jail like the Tates, but I'm still going.
So if you can donate in the description, it's the GoFundMe link.
Or you can join pearlinvite.com.
That is our members-only community, and you do have to apply to be a part of it.
But essentially, it's going to be a learning community.
And yeah, all right.
Anyway, so today we are going to be reacting to Candace Owens debating 20 feminists.
Now, there's a point where you realize that conservative women, so-called conservative women, aren't we're not as much different than liberal women as I think maybe a lot of us would like to believe.
Because you see these blue-haired feminists and you think, well, I'm not like that.
You know, I didn't do like a Bonnie Blue or a Lily Phillips.
You know, you know, but what I realized is the more women identify as conservative, if it's really anything, like they identify as religious, or I realize that you tend to get like a big ego from it.
You know, you start to think you're different.
And I believe that's kind of the trap that like Candace has fallen into.
She doesn't really realize how scary she is as a woman.
What she did to Crowder to me was terrifying.
And I think there's a lot of stuff she misses because she's got a big ego.
I do really like her.
On one hand, I like her BLM work, but sometimes I think she's kind of fraudulent, right?
Because I just don't really think she's what she's portraying herself to be.
I guess I'll say it in that way.
So I felt like, sorry, this interview was a really good demonstration of it.
So, we're going to react to Candace Owens on Jubilee again.
So, let's go.
They don't want to stay at home when you pull them.
They just want flexible working hours and flexible working conditions, like you have.
And I think we should all advocate for that.
It's not one or the other.
But when you sit here and you go, you'll be more fulfilled doing this than spend all your time doing that.
We would love for you to leave the public eye and go focus on what makes you fulfilled.
Okay.
Hi, my name is Candace Owens.
I am a podcaster, a mother, a wife, and also the author of the upcoming book.
So, people kind of subtly tell on themselves.
What was the first thing she said when she introduced herself?
I'm a podcaster.
It's very obvious that's the most important thing to her in her life.
I don't blame her.
You have to understand women are using every strategy in the book to get to have sex with hot guys and have freedom.
That's what feminism at its core is fighting for.
It's I want to reproduce with the best guy I can instead of being saddled down with the guy from my hometown.
And two, I want, I don't want to be under his authority.
I want as much freedom as I can possibly have.
And I think we got to humanize women to some extent.
Can you blame Candace for wanting some sort of freedom?
Where if the relationship's not working in the future, she's going to want to bounce.
I'm trying to maybe take the morality out of it and just humanize people a little bit more.
Women aren't men.
We don't do the right thing just because, right?
So, let me continue.
Book Make Him a Sandwich.
And today I am surrounded by 20 feminists.
My first claim is that the sexual revolution has devalued women and made them infinitely less happy.
Okay, so I think that it does make women less happy when they hit 50.
But I would say that women are infinitely more happy in their 20s when they get worshipped by men, invited to hang out with the highest level men on the planet, and just worshiped and invited to the best events.
That's what I think.
I think at 50, maybe, but at 20, I would say the women are probably more happy today because they get all the freedom and no responsibility.
Yeah.
Hello.
Hi.
Hi.
I'm Samaya.
Samaya.
Nice to meet you.
I'm Candace.
Nice to meet you too.
So my question for you is: statistics show that 60% of women who are murdered are murdered by their intimate partners, murdered by someone that they're that women pick.
So women pick women love violent men.
Like what?
We pick them.
So I got no sympathy.
Sorry, ladies.
In close relations with.
That's according to the UN from 2023.
So how is it that women are so valued, quote unquote, in the home, and yet that's the place where they're at the most danger?
Okay, so I'm not sure what that has to do with the sexual revolution.
Right, the sexual revolution.
The sexual revolution engages.
I'm happy to answer it.
I'm just saying that, you know, if you brought in that statistic, you are more likely in general just to be murdered by somebody you know.
So, of course.
But men are much less likely to be murdered by, you know, that's not true.
Yeah, I'm sure, because men are less likely to be murdered by women.
Full stop.
Yeah, exactly.
So that statistic makes sense to me.
But women are more abusive than men.
Women are more violent, far more violent.
The only reason women don't kill men as much is because we don't have the strength to.
Like, if we could kill a guy with our hands, can you imagine?
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
God, thank you for not giving us that power.
I would be dead.
I really would.
I'm still not sure how this correlates to whether or not the sexual revolution increased women's ability to leave the house, women's ability to control their own reproductive capabilities, women's ability to, you know, control their own like capacity within the workforce in regards to their own sexual capacity.
So it is the very fact that like the sexual revolution happened that made our access to the workplace much more or just the public sphere in general much more easy.
So like without the sexual revolution, women would be much more confined to the place where they're at the most danger.
Isn't that true?
So you think that, just so I'm trying to understand your argument here, you think that if we didn't have the sexual revolution, less women or more women would be murdered.
Are you saying that women are more women would be murdered for sure?
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
I do.
I actually agree with her.
I think there's a lot of laws that protect women now and let us basically be super violent towards the men.
And if they were, because the whole system is based on the Duluth model.
So women, men are automatically seen as the aggressors because of that model.
Now, basically, the law lets women beat the shit out of men and men can't fight back.
So yeah, I do think a lot of women run their mouths.
And if it weren't for the misandrist laws we have today, they would be murdered.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yep.
So I'm going to say where I agree and where I don't agree.
I disagree with that.
I still don't think it has anything to do with the claim that women are infinitely less happy because of the sexual revolution, which has defined you.
You'd probably be less happy if you're being murdered.
Oh, anyone?
Okay, yeah.
I don't, okay.
There is definitely a correlation between personal relationships and domestic violence.
And just to be clear, if we're talking about just like a monogamous relationships, the most violent relationships that are on the books are between lesbian partners.
Yes, when people are intimate, that's not a challenge.
That is actually true.
The statistic you're talking about is people who have faced domestic violence.
Lesbians, yes, are more likely to have faced domestic violence, but that's because they're...
This is why women can't argue.
It's like, now we're just going with semantics.
It typically came from relationships with men in which they're worse.
Lesbian relationships are the most violent relationships that we have on the world.
But we can make and fact-check that claim.
The point being is that it's not exactly a stunning statistic to say that when people are in relationships, period, whether those relationships are homosexual, whether they're related to the relationship with the relationship.
But you're saying that the sexual revolution.
Let me finish.
I've let you try to explain how this is correlated to happiness, and I don't think it does.
I actually think you're having a different debate right now.
But yes, absolutely.
It makes perfect sense that.
I think arguing about happiness is stupid.
I probably, you know, I've had a long career.
I'm sure I've said stuff.
But I just don't think it's a good use of time.
Because happiness, you know, like some days I just wake up and I'm kind of down.
Another day, you know, happiness is highly correlated to where women are in their cycles.
If I rate women's happiness based on their life outcomes, okay, this is what I believe.
Women married to alphas are on the top or that got commitment from an alpha, women that are childless, women that are married to betas.
Unfortunately, through women's actions, we see that women do not want to be married to betas.
They don't.
It's kind of sad.
It's not moral, but like that's where you get when women, it's like they crash out at 40 and they're like, oh, I just missed out on so much and whatever.
And it's because they realize their husband's not what they wanted, unfortunately.
You are more likely, in general, when you are in a relationship because people are driven by anger by people that they know, whether or not we're talking about boyfriend and girlfriend, girlfriend and girlfriend, you know, a husband and a wife, a husband.
Yeah, exactly.
Most women would rather be single than married to a beta.
Correct.
Correct.
And women crash out at like 30, 28, 35, whenever it hits them where they can't attract the attention of alphas.
Some women can hold on to it a little bit longer.
Some hold on to it a little bit less.
Yeah, so.
Husband and a husband or a wife and a wife.
Yes, of course, the instances of domestic violence are going to take place when you're inside of a home.
But the sexual revolution, encouraging women to give up their goods for free, which is what I'm speaking about, and encouraging men not to marry these women or to have long-term relationships, what I am saying.
Now, Candace, a funny thing happens when you're doing commentary.
You see a lot of women that do egregious things.
And I think the worst thing that you can do is think that you're like special or different or whatever, just because you have a different belief system.
I've learned, I used to think that women with conservative belief systems were very different.
And I think that's why I go kind of hard against them now because I see now that they're the same.
Candace Owens, let's have a hard time believing that she has a body count less than five.
Let's say.
And I really think you can't, how many bodies would you say a woman can have where you can still claim her to be like pure or innocent?
Personally, I would say like three, two, maybe two, three, right?
So, but you expect me to believe, like, because this is how I think, right?
You were, you did, you really have a 100% relationship rate having sex.
You could be a woman with very good intentions or bad intentions, right?
So I have to believe that you never wanted to have casual sex.
You always were going for relationships.
Okay, fine.
Now, let's say you were always going for relationships.
You're telling me you had a 100% rate that you never got pumped and dumped or ghosted.
How about zero?
Look, I'm just, I'm just being realistic.
So the way I would calculate, I would ask when the girl started, because I don't know, some girls start in middle school, right?
Some girls start in high school, some girls start in college.
Some girls, it's like delayed.
And I do see that with Gen Z. They're like starting later.
But the girl will go for the best guy at high school, get pumped and dumped, and then take, let's say she has a 50% commitment rate, which I would say for women is decently good.
Okay, two in high school, two in college, two in a major city, every major city you've lived in.
So we're going to do eight dudes because I think she lived in New York.
You're right.
You'll never know the numbers, but I've been asking the question recently: how many got, like, and it's probably higher, but I'm going to say I'm giving her every benefit of the doubt because she got married at 30.
Two in high school, two in college, two in a major city.
And I'll give her like a five-year relationship before meeting her husband.
Maybe, you know what I mean?
But every, you have to understand every relationships a girl's had, I have to think, so your commitment rate was 100%.
Now, if she was really hot, I would believe that, but she's like a five.
I would put Candace as a five.
You know, like if she was an eight, I could maybe accept a 100% commitment rate.
I know, I know women that claim to have that.
and they're really hot um so then you got to go Now, after a woman slept with like five dudes, the chance that she doesn't like divorce or get fat or whatever is like five or sorry, 10, 20%.
don't remember okay you're gonna say five Look, even if she's a six, we know women are going for the eights.
I don't like, I just, you're not really going to convince me that she went to all of these cities and did all this, like, I just don't believe it.
And to me, the only women that can put their money were, like, Riley Gaines, I would believe that she is, even though she's in the skimpy swimsuit and like doing, she did like a swimsuit magazine.
I would believe she's more pure than I would Candace.
Okay.
Even I would believe Riley Gaines is more pure than Brett Cooper because Brett was in a sorority at a big college where Riley, like, she was, I think she met her, she met her Chad husband in college, and she's pretty cute.
I would say she's like a seven, I would say.
Anyways, so I'm just, I'm just trying to be realistic because she's going to signal purity.
I saw clips of this, and you just can't signal purity to me.
And I think sometimes people talk long enough, you kind of start to believe your own, you know, your own BS.
So I got to talk about this.
Bang is a direct contributor.
How does their unhappiness because women are giving up their goods for free and women are now entering the workplace and that does not actually make them happy?
You said Brett doesn't give you hoe vibes.
Well, I'm looking, she might not even be a crazy hoe, but you expect me to believe.
Now, we have to remember: the bigger the college, the bigger the ability to be the hoe, be a hoe without ruining your reputation.
If you move cities, there's a bigger ability to be a hoe without ruining your reputation.
From what I understand, she was emancipated at like 15, 16.
So now she lives alone at 15, 16.
She goes to a college that's big.
I'd have to double-check.
I believe it was a big school.
You are not going to convince me she didn't get a couple bodies a year.
Look, you might believe it, but we just got to be realistic, guys.
You know, if maybe she had a boyfriend all of college, well, even if she had a boyfriend, do I believe that she's hot enough to have, because remember, women are going for alphas.
That's who women go for first.
And if he's an alpha, that means he can and will do better if he can.
And again, Brett's cute.
I would put her six.
I would put Brett as a six, Riley Gaines as a seven.
Candace Owens five.
That's that's what I would rate him.
Now, obviously, if you guys are really into blondes, then Riley becomes an aide.
If you're really into brunettes, you know.
And I can tell you, these none of these women are really higher than a seven because they would be in Playboy.
They wouldn't be in conservative media.
Mids go to conservative media.
None of them are hot enough to garner attention as like a bottle girl.
Like, you've seen Myron's girlfriend.
Like, I think she worked, like, I think she was like a waitress in Miami, but something like that.
But she's beautiful enough to do it, right?
That's where the hot women go.
You might say she's not a five, but I do casting.
I do entertainment.
I understand that, like, the challenge is women are so fat that it does inflate everything, but that it just means, like, imagine it just means like a basketball league got worse.
And so now you're dunking on everybody, but it doesn't mean you're better.
Like, that's kind of how I equate it.
Maybe she didn't hoe herself out.
Well, but do you see what you guys like?
That's simping right there.
Why do you guys is your reaction to give the benefit of the doubt?
She's an actress.
You know, I don't have to give you the benefit of the doubt.
I don't.
Now, to be fair, Brett Cooper did put her money where her mouth is, and she married at like 22.
But, but, but what were you doing in college?
You know, what were you doing in high school?
You guys, I don't give the benefit of the doubt like some of you guys do.
Happy.
Okay, pause.
Sorry, you've been voted out by the majority.
please return to your seat.
Hello.
Hi there.
How are you?
I'm Candace.
Hands on to meet me.
Nice to meet you, Julian.
My pronouns are they, them.
It's very interesting to think of it when we just think about the gender binary.
It's, you know, how do we now?
Someone said Brett's pregnant.
Totally.
But why if you're pregnant, why is your focus not on your family?
And now she's accepting a job at Fox News.
Now, again, like, I believe these women, if they start putting their money where their mouth is and they start leaving the public eye, well, how do I put this?
I'll believe that they're what they say they are.
But if they're not what, if they don't do that, they're just not what they say they are.
I'm not saying, like, I always try to be clear.
I'm not special.
I'm not different.
I'm not like, I'm not.
I'm a woman.
But we got to be realistic here that so are they, right?
Everyone is.
You place value on human beings in general.
And so when we think about, you know, placing value that comes from a place of power, right?
So I think, let's select like the Victorian era.
You have this dominant group of people coming from white supremacy, deciding who gets to have a proper status in the world.
And so that is already like placed taking human beings and devaluing them.
And so what the sexual revolution did was to help people seek out empowerment, which increased value no matter the gender.
So when it comes to sexual revolution, let's look at one contribution is sex education.
I'm actually an educator.
I teach sociology and LGBTQ studies.
And I have absolutely seen the positive outcome with the sexual revolution and sex education and seeing people empower themselves.
And with that comes safety when it comes to decreasing STIs, abuse, sexual assault.
Again, people get to empower themselves of all genders.
And I know earlier you mentioned about violence amongst lesbians and sapphic community, which I do identify within.
Who is all genders can be subjected to violence?
That was the point I was making.
So I wasn't sure of how her claim was relating to what we were talking about, whether or not it makes people happy or unhappy.
Relationships are obviously a ground where there can be violence.
I guess I could just wrap it up by saying, like, if we all have access to sex education through the incredible work of feminists through the sexual revolution.
I actually do believe in sex education, but not through the schools.
But I'm actually going to do a sex ed show one of these days.
Sexual revolution.
We are able to gain access to information and gain skills.
Oh, Rodney Gaines went to LSU.
Okay, look it.
But she had a boyfriend throughout college, I think.
I don't really care, but you guys get the point I'm making.
An equitable society, egalitarian within our relationships, whether it be platonic, romantic, I'm so grateful for those feminists who have fought for us so we can gain those spaces and create a healthier society.
Okay, are you a believer in the government doing everything that it can to make people happy?
So when it comes, as someone that teaches in the public sector, I understand the concern when it comes to what is a teacher, you know, what kind of information they're providing to the students.
I do believe that we, as a teacher, I should be able to give that sort of information.
Again, I teach college students.
One of my claims is I believe that we should mandate sex education amongst college students.
So yes, I.
I don't.
Google it.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, why am I wasting my tax dollars to teach you how to have sex?
There's corn on the internet.
There's Google.
There's friends and family.
I just don't want to pay.
I don't want to pay for that to be taught this by some weird person that wants to talk to teenagers and young adults about sex.
I don't.
I do want the state.
I would like the government to give us those resources so we can implement that curriculum.
Okay.
Would you, are you consider yourself a feminist, I'm assuming?
A queer feminist.
There's variations, right?
What is a queer feminist as opposed to a feminist, just so I understand.
Well, like, so I heavily believe in queer theory.
So, you know, the gender binary that we understand, it comes from colonization.
So someone who is mixed race, family from Mexico, you know, we have the Moshe's of Mexico, which is an indigenous tribe.
They believed in gender fluidity.
And then you have European colonizers coming who dismantle that.
And now everything that we understand when it comes to gender is a Western lens.
So from a queer— So you don't even think women exist, I'm guessing.
I think everyone should be empowered to figure out their identity and explore the language that best describes themselves.
So freedom, America, right?
America of freedom.
And I want to believe in that when it comes to identity.
Everyone should have the freedom to decide how they want to identify as long as they're not causing harm.
But that's where we get into the debate.
What is harm?
So just, again, to be clear, to go back to this claim, we are debating female happiness.
You are saying you do not identify as a female.
I identify with all gender expressions.
So from masculinity to femininity.
So I'm just saying.
Why is she here?
Like, why did, okay.
Are you just saying that as a part of queer theory, you're debating whether or not women are happier after the sexual revolution?
I'm just trying to understand because it seems like you're debating queer theory as opposed to female.
I believe all genders benefit from the sexual revolution.
You've been voted out by the majority.
Please return.
Thank God.
To your seat.
Hello.
I'm Zina.
Zina.
Very much like your name.
Thank you so much.
Nice to meet you.
Can we start with the beginning?
Do you identify as a female?
I identify as a woman.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
So I do want to get back to your premise.
You're saying that women have been devalued by the sexual revolution.
This kind of presumes two things.
One, that there has been a loss of worth for women.
Saying that women have, as human beings, lost worth.
Women who, prior to their sexual revolution, were worth more than women today.
I would say that, yes, women have devalued themselves by becoming overtly sexual.
That's my claim.
So, also, according to just, and let's not remove this from the other part of the claim, which has made women infinitely less happy.
Right.
So, are you saying, but you're saying that according to you, women have been devalued?
Not according to me.
According to the time in which people are getting married, how difficult it is for people to find a partner that's willing to commit to them.
And I think that's in large.
Women don't want commitment.
They don't.
They don't want to be mothers and they don't want to be wives.
Because if Candace Owens really wanted to be a mother and a wife first, she'd put it away, but she won't, right?
And I'm not even saying she should.
Look, she could, but if you mess your kids up, I don't care.
Like, I was raised by nannies.
I'd say I'm good enough.
I could be better, but like, you know, maybe I'm like, I'm like, maybe, not, not completely, but strong influence from them.
You know, maybe if I, maybe I wouldn't be on the internet doing this stuff, but, you know, here I am.
Large part due to the fact that women are offering sex for free because it was a main, you know, major component of a sexual revolution was this idea.
So a woman's worth is tied to her sexuality.
It's not, it's not tied to, well, absolutely.
If you're going to be having multiple partners, you are going to be devaluing yourself.
I do.
Yeah.
So to be honest, men pick beauty before purity.
They do.
So your number one value is tied to your sexuality in a way as a woman.
Because the promise of sex gets guys to do stuff for you and you can monetize it in different ways.
In a way, Candace is monetizing her sexuality because she does the, you know, I'm special and different grift.
And, you know, trying to say it in a different way.
I know she's not like overly sexual.
Like she doesn't wear super whatever stuff, but she would not be as famous if she was a man.
That's a better way to put it.
Worth less.
Not as a human being, just, you know, in terms of trying to have a partnership in a productive way.
Beauty isn't purity.
Look, you guys can say what you want, but I see what you guys respond to.
Youth and beauty is your number one currency.
Purity is third.
The only reason men go down on beauty is because they want to be treated a little bit better.
But beauty will get women opportunities and in the door.
It will get them in the door and have opportunities.
Even that a girl, like if you take a five or an eight, the eight's going to have more chances at relationships, more chances at marriage, despite her body count even than the five.
You might not agree with it, but it all starts with a swipe right.
That's where it starts.
It all starts with him asking her out.
It's not like we have these niche communities where the five, you get to know the five, she works her way up.
No, most people are meeting on dating apps.
Do you know how that starts?
Your face, your tits, your ass.
That's how it starts.
Yeah.
So, yeah, I understand that you might pick, like, let's say, okay, let's say you have a five and an eight, and you're a guy that gets girls.
Because remember, women only want the alphas.
So the only real relationships, like if I was a guy, I wouldn't consider a relationship with any woman that doesn't view me as alpha.
I wouldn't.
Because that's the only chance you have is a girl staying.
It truly is.
If a girl's making you wait for sex, like, because in the past, she had to stay for security, but now women are bailed out by the government.
They're bailed out.
They can get jobs.
They don't need money anymore.
So the only thing women need is excitement.
So there's no need for men to provide.
But if a guy that has choice, he's banging an eight, a seven, and a six.
Now, the six might, he might pick the six for long term, but the five didn't even get in the door.
Look, because he's going to say, which girl am I going to go on a date with this eight or the five?
And if they both say yes, he's going on the date with the eight.
And the eight got in the door.
The five did not.
And I know what you're thinking.
You're like, Pearl, Pearl, but Pearl, women, why doesn't, why don't they women just date guys on their league?
Yeah, okay.
Like, have you not watched this show?
I like threes because I have double vision.
Relationship, certainly men are not.
Yeah, a five woman pulls eight, nine, ten men.
A five man pulls two, three, four women.
The power weapon is beauty.
Beauty comes first.
And it pisses, you know, non-hot women off because we'll see hot women.
I've seen hot women do terrible things and men will still pick her.
You know, men will still, I mean, she's hot.
Yeah, the five got in, but only through the back door.
True.
Not going to be clamoring to have a relationship with somebody when there's the marketing them.
A man's response to your actions is and men do wife hose.
Let's not, I used to, men don't want to, but for how much you guys, for the amount of pushback I just got in the chat where I said, do you know what?
I bet Brett caught a couple bodies in college.
I didn't say she all out hoed out, but when I said, you know, Candace lived in a big city, I bet she threw it back a bit.
I think that's a fair assessment.
And then you guys said, no, That's how I know you guys will wife hose because you guys are so willing, not you.
I know some of you are RP, but a lot of guys are so willing to just give every benefit of the doubt they can possibly give because women say they're pure.
I mean, you could say anything.
Am I a millionaire?
I think I should, I am a millionaire.
I am a multi-bajillionaire.
Do you guys believe me?
No.
Women have to prove they're not hoes.
What defines your work?
Don't kill the dream.
Okay, well, what I'm saying is she might not be a hoe if she's an eight, but none of these women are eights.
Right?
Yeah, well, I would say that I would argue that at the what makes women actually happy is family.
So if you're interrupting, so I'm just to connect with Osh for you.
When women are having sex with multiple partners, it devalues them for men, right?
For men.
Men define a woman's worth.
Well, I would say both of them kind of define one another's worth because I think the ultimate goal for people to be happy is actually family.
Okay.
So you're saying in all cases, a woman is going to be more fulfilled in regards to family.
Exactly what I'm saying.
And this is going to work in all cases.
You're saying there's no individual case in which a woman can feel, you know, fulfilled without being tied to other people in the case of family.
I think there could be an exceptional case for everything.
I think there are exceptional cases.
Controversial opinion.
I don't think women, I think women, As a woman, it is your job to make yourself happy.
You cannot put that on your kids or your husband.
That's your own job.
It is your own job to make yourself happy.
I think you have your own responsibility to be happy.
So I think that the family.
Thank you.
$50, Carlos.
You shouldn't have.
Now, the family could make you more fulfilled, hypothetically, but, you know, I just got to look at what women are doing.
I'd really like to believe that.
And I think at one point I did, but I just kept looking at what men were doing.
If women wanted family and to be mothers so bad, why did they kill an eighth of the world population?
We would have a second city of London if it weren't for abortion.
If women wanted it so bad, why is it when women are 22, they're not like dying to have kids and be a mother?
So I just kind of had to look at it and say, do you know what?
I don't think women want it as much as we previously thought.
I don't.
And even this rhetoric, I'm looking at this and I'm thinking, you can't put being happy on your kids or your family.
It's not fair to your kids to make them responsible for your happiness.
It's not fair to your husband.
If your husband left you tomorrow, you got to figure out a way to be happy.
That's your burden in life.
It just is what it is.
Yeah.
But I think that if we all start trying to be the exception as opposed to recognizing the rule, which is that people in life are more fulfilled when they achieve a family unit and when they have children, women in particular, especially having aspiring to children, then you are going to end up with a bunch of people who are unhappy because your job cannot replace the feeling of having a family.
So what you're saying is we need to look at every individual case and see what is going to fulfill you or what is going to, I guess, essentially predict your happiness more.
I'm not here to look at this is what conservatives miss.
Women are not happy with beta husbands.
They're not.
And their actions proved it.
Not what they say, what they did.
If women were so happy with beta husbands, why do they keep killing their kids?
Why do they keep divorcing them and leaving them?
They're not happy with them.
They're not.
So I just tell women to go for alphas and try to get one.
And it's not because I think most women will, but I'm going to tell her to go torture a beta guy or a guy that she views as like not good.
Like, do you know what it's like?
Have any of you guys been married to a woman who thinks she thinks she's better than you or she thinks you're like her second choice?
I don't tell women, I say go for the men you want.
And it's not because it's really, it's in the guy's best interest.
It's in the guy's best interest.
Now you need money to have kids.
Not necessarily.
You need money to have kids today because women want the latest fashion, the latest clothes, the latest diapers, a house, not an apartment.
I mean, I know people that were raised in apartments and they're fine.
Yeah, yeah.
And those women, yeah, as a woman, like that's why I almost think these happiness conversations are bad.
They're not bad, but are fruitless because you're either a happy person or you're not.
Because if we look at, for example, the Nordic countries, right?
These are countries, I'm talking about like Sweden, Denmark, right?
These countries tend to be, like, I think in the past 14 years, they've been ranked as the highest in happiness and middle sex satisfaction from women, right?
And we see that they also have been the most open regards to like, you know, sexual norms and, you know, sexual roles, right?
So, and we also see that there's less race.
Well, and remember, there's alpha guys that go after, like I would put, okay.
I know guys that you could say like, and I'm going to just say it alpha, non-alpha, I don't know, but I hate the terms, but I just, I got to use something.
I really don't like alpha and beta, but there's alpha guys that run through the 30-year-old women.
There's alpha guys that run through the 40-year-old women.
Women age out of like the top alphas and then go to the second alphas in their 30s that are like, they're running through those women and so forth.
So like SCDs reported.
We see more, and that's also due to comprehensive sex education that's pushed in those countries.
So we see that when we, and that's like a perhaps women can be happy with non-alphas if they can bond and not have a body count over five.
Yeah, and I think that's why partially men like the younger women, I mean, they don't have to compete as much, right?
You don't, you have to compete with like two dudes.
That's amazing.
And so it's kind of like it's like a workaround, right?
But it doesn't work now because women will meet a more alpha guy, more Chad guy than you at work, at home.
That's why women end up screwing the pool boy, right?
Unfortunately, if that were true, then all the people that married young would stay married.
But now they divorce more than people that marry later.
And it's because women, you're basically telling women, give up being a celebrity to be with me.
How many men would give up being a like a LeBron James to be with a woman?
You probably wouldn't, right?
Like to have all these high level women, not high level, hot women chasing you, it'd be pretty hard to get you to settle down.
That's what you're telling women to do.
Good luck.
Using the word alpha is generalizing.
Do you guys want to understand what I'm saying?
Or are you just going to pick?
I understand it's not a perfect term, but I got to use a placeholder term.
A direct result of the sexual revolution.
Right.
So when we're seeing that direct reports of happiness, right, we don't have these same rates.
Pearl keeps telling the truth.
Women love Neiman Marcus.
Who doesn't?
All women and men are the same.
Remember, we are all the same overall.
I don't think we're the same, but I don't know what you're talking about in America in these countries that are more sexually open.
Why would we see like those rates in those type of countries?
So I think you might be referring to this sort of mass-produced study that was a part of like a behavioral science study, which said that women.
Now here's the issue.
I, all right, I use studies on my channel and facts and statistics because I have to.
I have to.
I do.
But the challenge you get is in academia, there is no incentive to produce honest studies if it ruins your career.
And so I don't like my first way that I am going to see the world is through my eyes and what I see.
Second is facts, data, and statistics.
You're not going to give me a study and say don't believe what's in front of your eyes.
You can't do it.
Women were the happiest women in the world or women that were actually unmarried and had careers.
No, okay, well, there was reported happiness.
Okay, sure.
I'm talking about the same thing.
It was reported happiness, but it could be a different, there's tons of studies.
The point being is that in 2023, there was this massive scandal where they recognized that a lot of these studies that were being produced, behavioral science, was proven to be a complete fraud.
And they were unable to reproduce these studies.
And they also found that the data had been faked.
The data that we can look at that I think shows, and you can let me know if you agree with this, if women and under the imagination of the feminist umbrella were really unhappy when they were in the home.
And then entering the workforce has made women happier and infinitely feeling more secure about themselves.
We could, I think, reasonably expect that there would have been a decrease in suicide rates amongst women.
You would have to go ahead and show how that correlation is going to be a direct cause of women going into the workforce.
Okay, well, how can we measure?
Then you have to give me a way that we can measure happiness.
How can we measure happiness?
So I would say suicide rates would be a good thing to look at.
Drug alcohol consumption would be a good idea.
Of course, right?
But we would have to.
We can say, I can say at this point in society, oh, I don't think everyone.
Yeah, but women, I don't like alcohol consumption because women are doing that to party.
You know, women love Roar.
Like, women are one of the biggest binge drinkers in the United States.
So I don't know, alcohol, maybe antidepressant suicide rate, I would agree.
Everyone's happy.
I think there's a lot of things that we need to reconcile to.
That's what I'm getting at.
Right, but we have to look at the cause, right?
Why are these things predicted, right?
And for example, if we talk about men, there are a lot of things we can look at, right?
That tend to predetermine suicide, right?
But we can't say, oh, these two things are happening at the same time.
This caused this other thing.
Yes, that's right.
But I do think that we can objectively say that women who are committing suicide rates more than they were in the 1950s.
Like it has actually increased marginally.
That's not a sign that us statistically unchanged.
Yeah, women are kind of pussies.
They're not going to do it.
Sorry, I shouldn't say that.
Entering the workforce suddenly made us a cause of the workforce.
We're also binge drinking at a higher rate.
Houses cause of the annoyance at a higher rate.
Houses of enterprise.
Because I think women are being put on a pathway aspirationally.
But you're going to have to.
You're saying you think this, right?
But where is the cause?
Like, you're not, you're not, you know, substantiating the claim.
You're saying, this is what I think I'm seeing too.
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You've been voted out by the majority.
So Low Cal says, we are in the same life.
Wait, we are the same in life is what we want.
This is why we have this dynamic.
It will never change.
Love it, accept it.
Why fight it?
Yeah, I've accepted.
I wish I fought it less.
Some of the fighting was embarrassing.
I wish I'd.
Yeah, I just got to accept things the way they are.
Please return to your seat.
Thank you so much.
Great job.
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Hello.
Howie.
Hi, I'm Nikki.
Nice to meet you.
So when we're talking about the value of women on a societal scale and how we view each other, right?
When you're devaluing us, you're objectifying us.
And follow me, I promise.
But rape rates have gone down by about half in the last 20 years, right?
So if you're saying we're less valuable now, why wouldn't we be suffering at a higher rate?
So is the argument that you're making, just so I understand that because women are giving up sex for free, they're not being raped.
Every study shows rape is not correlated with just sexual gratification.
It is a power structure.
So it is about objectifying and abusing women when you rape them, not about whether or not you want sex.
What I am saying is that women are less objectified.
Well, I would say that there's way more consequences.
Men are like, men are giving out consent forms nowadays.
So therefore, we are being raped less.
Okay, so you think that in today's society, because this is pretty wild for me.
In the 1950s, you're saying women were more objectified than today in the land of OnlyFans, the Kardashian Klan, and women that are essentially putting up their boobs and butts for free on Instagram.
You're saying we are now, we finally have achieved.
I don't like that language yet.
Women objectify themselves.
Men are a utility.
Women, yeah, I don't put, women are not objectified.
Women objectify themselves.
I was going to say the same thing.
Less objectification, where women can't even get onto an advertising.
You can't even advertise a bag without them having to be naked in order for them to get away.
Do you see right there?
It's not women having to be naked.
It's women wanting and getting naked.
Because they want the power that comes with getting naked.
How many views would I get if I just, I'm not, I'm not going to, but you guys see, like, because there's power in it.
Career as a model, you're saying, oh, great, we've achieved actually less objectification.
So I'm not trying to suggest that I think that the over-commodification of women's bodies is positive.
But what I am saying is that when you're going to the 1950s, that we shouldn't put this glazed look of, oh, it was so happy.
We had single-income households and we got to stay home.
We also had a pill-popping problem.
We also were viewed as maids.
Like we were seen as a house appliance far more than we were as people.
And so when you have that kind of objectification where you are in a subservient position, I think we're facing a different form today.
But I think that rape is a signifier of a contradiction to your statement.
Okay.
Does that make sense?
It doesn't make sense, but I do want to rebut it on a couple of points.
So first, I just want to say suggesting that objectification has gone downward since the 1950s is wild.
That's just a firm no.
That is not the truth.
And you know that's not true.
Wait, so do you, hold on, let me let me answer your second thing.
Second thing.
You then brought up, okay, women were at home, but they were pill popping.
Well, you then have to acknowledge we're actually popping more pills now, right?
So we have actually increased our amount of pill popping.
Women are having overdoses on opioids.
And on top of that, since I think 1999, by rate, we are increasing our opioid use compared to men.
So women are not popping pills less because we're going into the workforce.
That's actually not true at all either.
And we're also, like I said to you, consuming alcohol more and binge drinking more than we did in the 1950s, which is why I was trying to get her to say, we need to look at actually a reasonable, give me any reasonable metric of how we can define happiness because it's hard, right?
Are you happy?
Yes or no?
But you're waiting, hold on.
We're actually avoiding what my original point was, was about rape being the signifier.
Okay, pause.
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Nice to meet you.
Hi.
Hi.
I like your hat.
The men in the circle are wolves in sheep's clothing.
They're going to portray it as feminist allies and hope.
So banging one of the women in the group.
Look at Destiny.
They probably will.
I mean, some of these girls aren't bad.
They're not bad.
Whitney Shanahan.
Nice to meet you.
Not her.
She's not that cute.
I'm fascinated by your claim that women have lost happiness since the sexual revolution, since the 1950s.
Such a dumb argument.
Like, at what point in their life did they lose happiness?
This is how it goes.
Women married to Alphas, happy.
Women alone, less happy.
Women married to Betas, least happy.
That's why they keep killing their kids.
Do you think that there is any tie to happiness and freedom and happiness and choice?
Because since 1950s, since the sexual revolution, women have gotten exponentially more freedom and more choice.
And for me, as a mother and as a woman, having the freedom to choose what I do to make my own destiny makes me infinitely more happy than, say, back before the sexual revolution when I couldn't get a bank account, couldn't get a home loan, couldn't work outside the home, couldn't travel around without a man, couldn't control my own reproduction.
So I feel that happiness personally, my belief.
Do you know what?
I actually think women should have the right to do all that stuff.
You have the right to hell.
I do.
I think you have the right.
I think people have the right to their hell.
What I don't like is that women don't have the consequences from those, the hell.
Like you have to pay your debt back.
You can't just declare bankruptcy.
You know?
Maybe there's consequences for not disclosing your STD status if you catch herpes and you're a whore.
You know?
Belief is tied to our ability to have freedom.
And I think that in the United States, protecting freedom and our individual freedoms is what's going to lead us to happiness.
Did you go to college?
Absolutely.
Okay, great.
Did you?
Yes, I did.
So you have a degree.
Absolutely.
Now, when you went to college, did you go to college because it was simply something that you wanted to do?
Or did you think that I have to go to college because in order to get a job, I have to have a college degree?
I went to college for art because I was fascinated with art.
Okay.
It's just answering my question.
Did you go to college?
Was that the only reason you went to college?
Or did you think that I might want to do something in art?
So I have to go to college for my career.
I went to school because I wanted to expand my horizons.
I mean, I think that's why most people go to university.
That's actually not true.
I went, and I think a lot of people go because there's a pressure that if you don't go to college, you're going to be a failure.
It's a choice.
Everything's a choice.
So taking away choices doesn't make people happier.
Taking away.
I'm actually.
Okay, if you want to go to school, go to school, but pay your student loans.
Agreeing with you on the idea that people are feeling more free by financial pressure.
I think financial pressure makes people feel remarkably less free.
So you want no bank accounts again?
Women not to have credit cards?
I'm not saying that women shouldn't have access to credit cards or banking accounts.
You're putting words in my mouth.
So why don't you respond to the words that I'm saying?
Well, less financial pressure.
If I don't have a bank account, that's a lot less financial pressure, I guess, right?
Financial pressure in terms of most people that go to college, and I'm counting myself among them.
It's because typically in order to get the job that you're being sold is going to make you infinitely happier and infinitely more free.
It just requires a college degree.
And most of these people, to be clear, have to put themselves, the majority of people have to put themselves into debt.
And I don't think anybody would describe debt as a form of freedom, right?
I don't think anybody would realistically say.
Let's get back to happiness.
So we're here to talk about happiness and how the sexual revolution, and we're not talking about college debt.
I think it's important because we are, we're talking about freedom.
You just said that the reason why I feel happy is because I have more freedom.
And I am saying that financial restraints and debt doesn't make people feel more free.
So let's eliminate the debt.
Let's eliminate college debt.
Maybe we should have a free college here in the U.S.
That sounds great.
Great idea, Candace.
I love that idea.
All right.
Okay.
Love it.
Champion.
Champion for the people.
I don't think this was one of Candace's better performances, actually.
We can go to college.
We go to college because feminists staffed HR departments and focus on credentials over competence.
Why do they calm equals voted out, loud equals celebrated?
Bring people that want to have actual conversations.
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It's pretty extreme and pretty like.
Children are extreme.
Well, no, that women would get more happiness inherently from raising kids than having a job or deciding what they want to do with their lives.
Yeah, because if women derived happiness from children, why do they keep killing them?
I thought so too.
But I just kept coming back to this point.
I'm like, if women wanted children and to be mothers, like, why don't we do it?
Like, you can download Hinge and you could filter by age, height, really anything.
Why is that?
Honestly, Candace seems insufferable to me.
She's high and mighty.
If I was her husband, I would be gone, girl.
Just curious, why would having children, which is just a natural biological conclusion, be something that sounds extreme?
I just said inherently.
Inherently.
But that's the inherent expectation.
Yeah.
That's better for women.
It's inherent because it's biological.
So I think when we think about things that are inherent, I think biology is a good thing to start with, right?
So biologically speaking, men and women come together, they form families, and that's the reason why you're sitting here, that's the reason that I'm sitting here, is because biology is inherent.
So saying it's just natural order that we're speaking about, right?
Okay, let's break it down.
So why do you believe that?
Why do you believe that?
Why do I believe that?
Why do you inherently, inherently are happier?
Sorry, I skipped it.
No career will give women as much joy and fulfillment in raising children.
If I was going to dismantle that argument, I would say, why did you not have children at 20?
Why did you do it at 30?
Because you had way more fun being a celebrity.
Look, I'm not.
You know, I had to ask, you know, you kind of have to ask yourself this question as a woman.
You know, if we want to do it, why didn't we do it?
Right.
Stressing this word inherent.
Yeah.
I think because it speaks to natural order and every piece of life, I think, is enriched by children.
Don't you think it's natural for women to get to decide what they want to do with their lives?
I do not think that saying women can decide whether or not they want to go to work or have children is problematic.
What I'm saying to you is that women will get the most fulfillment from having a family.
Because it's natural.
Then if it's so natural, Dust, why don't we do it?
Because again, it's revealed stated preferences.
My boyfriend taught me this, actually.
I want to tell you guys the story where he kind of cooked me.
But I don't want to, I'm not going to say it.
Maybe we got to build the trust.
I've had too many hit pieces on me.
Like they'll cut it and be like, ah, why?
I love this level of fit.
I don't want to be in the.
But anyways, again, if it was so natural to women, women would just want to do it, but we don't.
It's natural, but also children are wonderful and beautiful and spiritually divine creatures.
I mean, they're just, they're amazing.
There's everything about happy.
What's so amazing about them?
Good evening, Pearl.
Do you think married women in countries under Islamic moral law are happier than Western women today?
Have you seen any studies on this?
Greetings from Brazil.
I've done spaces from guys from some of these countries, and they tell me it's the same there.
Maybe it's a little bit more hidden, but women are always going to do the same thing.
They always go for the alphas, find a cleanup guy, and then cheat on him with the alphas.
Like, it just, you either become an alpha or you die alone.
Like, that's really it.
Sorry, guys.
Or you take the L.
I forgot what I was talking about with this.
Okay.
Having a child, yes, it's a lot of work.
It's just, it's beautiful.
I hear that.
Oh, okay.
What if there's a little girl born and it's her dream her entire life to be an author or to be on TV or any of these things?
And having children is very expensive.
It takes a lot of time.
So how is it better for that, like, and I understand this hypothetical, but that hypothetical little girl to have children than to pursue these things that would make her happy as she could.
But see, that's like the difference is men aren't controlling.
I kind of understand his like point of view.
Men are not controlling.
Women are controlling.
So women want to like impose their morality on the world where men are like, hey, do what you're going to do.
Because men know that you can't nag the world into changing where women are a little more delusional because they've seen it work.
Nice seeing Ted Bundy is alive and well.
Candace is so insane.
She gets mad at her tampon lady is cracked.
I just think that what if she publishes the book and she has a child, she would agree with me that the child was more fulfilling and made her happy.
That's what I'm happier than the book did is what I'm saying.
And I say this as a published author of the New York Times.
I would choose my children over my best-selling book.
And I wasn't.
But then you would have did that first.
Choices reveal what you really want.
Like you wouldn't, you wouldn't be here.
You know what I mean?
You wouldn't.
That little girl who had a dream that, like, oh, it would be really great if I could share my thoughts and ideas in a book.
But it is utter insanity for me to reflect on that and say that I would have rather published Blackout than to have my three children.
But why is it rather?
You see what I'm saying?
It's not rather.
I'm just saying that.
Yeah, because Candace is a winner of feminism.
She won.
Because men and women are arguing on who gets women's youth.
Do women get to use it on themselves or do women get to give it to their husbands?
And men are losing because women keep pushing it off.
So Candace won because remember, feminism says don't do the arranged marriage from before.
Don't marry the guy from your hometown.
You can do better and get better and be hypergamous.
And it allows women to be hypergamous.
So Candace could have married the guy from her high school, could have married the guy from her college, could have married someone she met in her early career.
She chose not to.
And she chose to shoot for the moon and then she married into 180 million.
That's called winning, ladies.
Take notes.
I want to know.
Candace, the best video that you could ever do is how to do that.
I'll tell you what.
That would be your most viewed video.
That's your claim as well, but they will be more fulfilled.
Yes.
So rather.
Well, if it's an either or, if you're saying it's an either or, I'm just saying that if these two things are happening, have happened in your life, the thing that will bring you more spiritual fulfillment will be children.
And so women who are neglecting that, who are neglecting the pathway to, you know, strive toward family because they think their career is going to hug them at night or they think that when they're on their desk.
They always get really.
Hold on.
Let me show you guys something.
I know I'm stopping it a lot, Doug MPA.
I'm sorry.
I just got a lot to say today.
Candace Owens, Joe Rogan on religion.
Here we go.
The thing that's so bizarre to me is that we're sitting here and we're talking about the age, like as if guns were just created, like, you know, when in reality.
Right.
But something's wrong, but what's wrong?
It's not the guns.
I'm asking you, what do you think is wrong?
Mental health.
Right.
So I say, I agree with you, but I think it's the deterioration of culture altogether.
Like they used to be taught the Bible in school.
Like, you know, people, people make fun of that now.
Like, now we've got this culture where you're making fun of kids.
Like, religion is like, we're so far away from religion.
Like, that's like weird to us.
Like, you know, like teaching religion is like, you've got like a scarlet letter.
If you come in as like a holy Christian kid in like a normal public, public education thing, you've got the family structure where it's like these kids are running the house.
Is it this one?
There's one where she says she's not religion.
Oh, she says, I don't study religion.
Okay.
Moses these days.
Like I look on like Facebook and it's like supposed to be funny when like a four-year-old is acting like Cardi B. I'm like, okay, yes, it's funny because she's four, but it's also like not funny because she's four, right?
Like how do you feel about Lil Tay?
Who's Lil Tay?
You don't know who Lil Tay is.
I love Cardi.
You gotta know who Lil Tay is.
Who's Lil Tay?
Lil Tay is kind of out of the news now because they found that it's a hustle.
She's a nine-year-old Asian girl from what, Vancouver?
Is that where it's from?
And she talks mad shit, throws money around, calls everybody bitches.
Where is it?
She just, she says she's not religious in this.
I used to make us read the Bible around the table.
There was something stricter, gun, gun-only by the meat.
Talks to Jesus.
Think about how weird that is, right?
Like how weird.
She wanted to publish Frog and Toad.
Candace is so out of it.
Pearl for real, Nada.
Keep breaking down these hoes.
The bleep is insane.
She thinks she's so smart.
That the stuff that we used to would be normal, like, you know, praying, talking to Jesus, like when I grew up, that was like my grandparents' generation.
That was everyone was religious.
And now we're so far away from that, right?
That that seems like it's okay to mock and we roundly mock it all the time.
So these, the, the structure in the home is, in my opinion, the most important thing that needs to change.
The fact that so many people are growing up without fathers in the home is something that needs to change.
Letting your kid have.
Where is it?
Hold on.
That's all you need to know.
Okay.
Is it here?
Like, you know, the reintroduction of God and teaching him to school.
And I said, like, at some point, there seems to be the struggle.
I have this idea that like human beings in a certain way were doomed to just keep repeating history.
I'm obsessed with Greek mythology.
I'm obsessed with like Egyptian history, hieroglyphics, like anything that like where they tell stories, especially Greek mythology, because the lessons.
Sorry, I'm trying to find the clip.
I know it's in this one.
This super smart guy is an evangelical Christian.
So does he believe like Jesus came back to life?
Yes.
Really?
Yes.
He's an evangelical Christian.
So he believes that someone died.
Yeah.
And then three years, three days later, they came back to life and that they walked on water.
Yeah, I mean, I haven't really gotten into a thing because I'm not like, I'm not the person that should ever be like debating or talking about religion.
It's not my like shtick, I guess.
Yeah, okay, there it is.
It's not her shtick.
And now it's like in her, I find it kind of offensive.
Now, I'm really not the most religious.
I've said this, but I grew up Catholic and I'd say, if I had to pick, I'd be Catholic, right?
I find it a little offensive.
She's like grifting this now because I think there's a part of me that's the biggest Catholic grifters ever.
I just, it's like, you're using this for your brand.
I just don't, come on.
Like, why does the religion have to go into the podcast?
You know what I mean?
I just, God, I just can't.
These influencers, they convert for like five minutes.
Like, you're talking about all the spiritual stuff.
That clip was a few years ago.
You know, maybe you get like a decade of being religious under your ballot and then come out.
But now it's, it's in deathbed, their career is going to come up next to them and say, you were so great to me.
I think that they've stepped into a delusion and I'm hopeful that they wake up from it before it's too late.
All right, pause.
Sorry, you've been voted out by the majority.
Please return to your seat.
I liked him, actually.
I thought he was cool.
He was calm, made sense.
Hi.
Hi, Emma.
Nice to meet you.
Okay, so currently women make up about 47% of the workforce.
If this were the case and that women were just inherently unhappy or unfulfilled working and would just prefer to be at home, why don't they?
Because we've made that due to the cross belongs in the altar.
It's sacramental, not a knickknack for your mantle.
It's just so obvious what everyone's doing.
You get virtue signal points, so you get to like be a good person.
You get to like be a good person by having the knickknacks without having to do the work of being a good person.
Prior feminist waves nearly impossible because now, which I believe the reason that the government wanted women to enter the workforce is because it gave them an opportunity to tax a household.
There again, there again, the government wanted to enter the workforce.
No, no, no, no.
Are women responsible for their decisions or not?
No.
When I started my podcast, I wanted to start it.
I'd always wanted to do it.
No one put a gun to my hat and made me want to do it.
I wasn't brainwashed.
I just wanted to start a podcast.
It wasn't anybody else's choice.
It was mine.
Sold twice.
And so this goes back to what I was saying: there's a lot of financial pressure that is being exerted on young women to enter the workforce.
And they do so blindly under this illusion that somehow entering the workforce is going to make you more fulfilled.
Like getting yourself into six figures of debt, going to college to then take on a career and be in debt and having to pay student loans while you make 35K is going to make you happier.
And I'm saying that isn't actually true.
Okay.
So I hear that.
Yeah.
At the same time, would you not agree that men and that women can both have a career and have children?
I mean, you are actively doing that right now.
And I want to be very clear because I am actively doing it right now.
I would be someone that you would call an exception because I get to work from home.
I get to wake up in the morning.
I don't have a boss, right?
I don't have to go into the office from nine to five.
I get to then, therefore, spend the entire morning with my children.
So you're an exception, and the 47% of women that make up our labor force are also an exception.
No, the exact opposite.
So I'm trying to make it more realistic because I think it's really bad form when people who are able to stay at home, right, and are able to start working at, you know, one o'clock p.m. as I do after being around their children.
The children are running around all day will then preach to you that every woman can have this.
That's not the reality.
The reality is that the overwhelming majority of people are stuck behind a desk all day.
It is true.
I will say YouTube is a great job for like you do get to work from home.
That's very nice.
But if she cared about her family, I don't think she would go into politics.
I think she would steer clear.
You don't, you, if she cared about her kids, why would you enter like a political arena, publicly showing your kids' face and touch on topics that people want to assassinate you for?
So I'm like having you, you know, you round.
Candace saw too much of History's Mysteries on History channel and F. Gordon Ramsey and the money channel.
Okay.
And they're not happy.
They're not doing work that gratifies them at all.
And at the same time, they're suspending their...
Well, that's just what career you've chosen, but I think that the issue with your...
Most people work a nine to five, I think.
I think that's okay.
Yes, but if it's the job that is making them unhappy, then maybe they should have chosen a different career path and not the structure of the career itself.
But my issue with this.
Okay, if most kids are in public school, I don't really see why women can't have a nine to five.
You get up at, okay, you get up at seven.
The kids, I think actually I went to school at 7:30.
So, okay, you get up at six, oatmeal, bacon.
There's a lot of stuff that's pretty fast.
You can just give your kids.
Drive them to school.
Now, I guess you would have to find them a ride home.
But, okay, you get a ride home somehow.
Either you alternate with your, like, okay, then five o'clock, you can make dinner when you get home.
Six or seven o'clock dinner.
I don't see what I really don't see.
I think women are just kind of lazy, to be honest.
I just can't imagine cooking and cleaning takes that much time.
I mean, maybe you don't have a spotless house, but, or you don't make like gourmet meals, but I mean, did anyone die eating oatmeal?
Did anyone die eating eggs and bacon?
You know, and I just come from this perspective because I do understand when the kids are under like when before they're in school.
But my grandma had 13 children.
Do you know what I mean?
My grandma had 13 kids.
So, like, now we're having like two, maybe three.
You know?
Is that not only is it claiming that women can't both be mothers and have jobs?
All right, Pearl read my mind about the religion grift and over-moralizing.
I think it's a public persona, a Candace suit, which we know to be true because millions of women do that.
My mother does that.
You are actively doing it right now.
But it also is qualifying what every single woman in this country wants without any clear evidence.
I mean, there's 169 million women in this country over.
How can you say that you know exactly what every woman secretly wants?
I didn't.
That wasn't my claim that I secretly know what every single woman wants.
I'm saying that if you measure up at the end of your life, what brought you more fulfillment, your career or a child, children, raising children in your family, we will discover that, and there actually have been studies people that have gone to people on their deathbeds.
And the number one regret that people have according to the top five regrets of The Dying by Bronny Ware, too much work is the number two regret, but not living a life true to yourself is the number one.
I would agree.
I don't think women that don't want kids should have them because then they torture the children.
We don't need that.
How was that they gave too much to their careers?
And this includes men, by the way.
Well, yeah, that's true.
I mean, of course, human relation is going to be valued over money and profit.
So then we don't agree with my arguments at all.
You're agreeing with my arguments.
Humans prefer humans over a job, but that's not just singular to women.
That's everyone.
And my question is: what does that even have to like?
What is the goal of that?
Should every woman quit working and just have a child?
Well, I'm just trying to warn you that if you decide to suspend that pursuit of family because you think that you have to first climb the ladder, a lot of women make that mistake and they don't end up finding a project.
But that's their right.
It's free will.
Women definitely have a right to make it.
I agree.
People have the right to live in hell.
People do.
You get to say what people should and shouldn't do.
I didn't come.
I don't think my claim is this is what people should or should not do.
I'm just simply stating that my claim is that you will be more fulfilled if you focus on your life.
You're trying to decide what other people are fulfilled by.
Okay.
I am making my claim here that you will, women are infinitely more fulfilled in the household and raising children than they are taking that nine-to-five job.
But you have no evidence of that.
In fact, you are evidence against your own claim.
I'm not evidence against my own claim.
You are saying that.
You're at work right now.
I've literally said, I am telling you, women cannot have it all.
That is an illusion and that is an illusion that is stressing women out.
And I think it is the reason.
Yes, they can.
By having a nanny do it for them.
That's how you can have it all.
By outsourcing motherhood.
Why be a parent when some 5'10 Latina can do it for you?
Why?
That's how they do it all.
Any woman that says you can do it all is paying someone to do it for them.
Reason why so many women are turning to popping pills, why there's been such a significant, more than 1,000% increase.
But men can have it.
Men can be fathers and have a job, but women can't do that.
I don't think you can have it all.
It sounds like you're devaluing women.
I think that women can do everything.
It sounds like women.
And men have done this historically throughout time immemorial.
Think women is our topic debate topic today.
So we're not women exist in a society with men.
We are comparing them.
Women are trying to be both women and men.
And that is why women are unhappy today, is because actually, what's quite ironic about the feminist movement is that women are just trying to be people.
I think women have been taught that being a woman is not enough and that you have to also aspire to be a man.
And that's the irony.
It's like a psychological conditioning.
What feminists went out and did and said is that in order for women to have value, women need to be like men.
And I'm saying that actually women.
Nope, feminism, women are jealous of men.
And so they chose to go be like men.
Nobody brainwashed, nobody told them.
They did it.
And men are biologically different.
There are differences in our behavior.
There are differences in our desires.
And I think evidence of the feminist movement, by the way, shows us that because even when women enter into the college education space, the pathways of career that we choose are different from men because we're biologically different, right?
Okay, so let's say that this is true, that women truly are more fulfilled at home.
Now, the average cost of raising a child a year is around $21,000 or more.
So my issue is: are you saying that women should just suddenly stop working and now the onus is entirely on men?
Like the society that you're pitching is not sustainable economically.
It wasn't.
And I think it was sustained economically.
But it's not right now.
Naima, you've been voted out by the majority.
Yeah, that's true because we're taking men's money and giving it to women for doing nothing.
I think more women should work.
I'd love to see more house husbands in my lifetime, but not house beta husbands.
I'd love to see more house alpha husbands, like women that marry like personal trainers, for example, and just pay for their life.
Women aren't bringing anything else to the table.
They might as well bring money from all these easy jobs.
I'm like, I think the ultimate alpha is a guy that can get women to pay his rent because you're like, have you seen those guys?
Those guys are the best with women.
Like, not in a simpy way, but in a like, do you know those Chads that just get women to do whatever?
They're like paying his rent and he's still cheating.
Yeah, marry some rich brad and divorce her and take her stuff.
Hilarious.
Thanks for turning to your feet.
Hi.
Hi, Ceci.
Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you.
So your claims that women will be happier at home.
I think you're conflating, though, happiness with importance because I get what you're saying, where a woman can write a book and have kids, but the kids are always going to make her happier.
But I think it just means that kids are always going to be more important, not necessarily make you happier.
But also, piggy packing on Naima, we don't live in an economy where people typically can have a one-income household, right?
Whether it be the mom or dad that stays home.
And so I think, and you keep bringing up the 1950s, which because it was right before the fact.
I just don't know if that's the period of time that you want to go back to.
I'm just going back to the first wave of feminism.
You want to undo progress that's been done.
So I'm curious as to what decade you'd be comfortable living in, especially as a black woman.
Okay, so we're going to park aside the race politics because I want to focus on.
Okay, then as a woman, what period of time do you want to go back to?
Just as a woman, I think that it was probably a better environment for women when we understood that raising our children was.
I heard the 60s were fun and the 70s.
I heard life was great in the 70s.
I think that's what I would pick because actually I like today, but I've heard the, I would have loved to have been around before social media and just see what life was like back then.
Fulfilling.
But some women still do it.
But I want air conditioning.
So, you know what I mean?
You understand that.
Right.
And a lot of women.
And I'm one of them.
And I'm here advocating for you to be able to live the life that you want and for other women to be able to live the lives they want.
Do you have children?
No.
Okay.
You have a career, I presume.
Yeah.
Okay.
What do you work at?
What field do you work in?
I do hair.
Okay.
Wonderful.
So I have both children and a career, as somebody pointed out.
And so the fact that I'm saying that you will be infinitely more fulfilled at the end of the day by raising your children than you will be if you come home and you say, wow, I really crushed it dying.
Right.
But we like, it's like I can watch what you say or watch what you do.
I did an event with Candace.
I was kind of starstruck.
It was kind of, it's kind of weird sometimes when you see people like you see it on screen.
I did an event with her.
And it was like a month after she had her kid.
Like, what are you doing?
Flying to Amsterdam?
Somebody's hair today.
What is it exactly that makes you angry about hearing that?
Like, that's what I'm actually trying to think of.
I'm trying to get to that implicit revolution.
The only thing is that no one mentioned children.
No, see, no one's angry when you mention children.
I get angry, I guess, when you mention that someone should have a children or you're trying to impose a life.
What is she arguing?
She's saying, I don't want to have kids with a beta.
All my ex-boyfriends are beta.
I don't want to do it.
I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't.
And Candace, because the older women will tell you this, have kids with a beta.
Have kids with a beta.
No, I don't want to have kids with that.
That's the argument going.
They don't realize it, but that's the argument.
Dial onto people that you want to live, which I think is kind of funny because as someone who's anti-feminism, you practice it more than most women do.
I mean, every time you get on your podcast.
Pearl, would you say no-fault divorce was a symptom of a deeper cultural shift that had already started undermining men's roles, family, and society, or was it the real turning point?
So I had a child support officer on the show, or I don't know his official job title.
Thank you for the super chat, by the way.
You guys are being super generous today.
My understanding is that there was a lot of requests for no fault divorce already, and that there was a lot of people separated and not divorced.
So it was just kind of like a formality.
And that matches up with what I know about like my family, like the grandparents and great-grandparents.
A lot of people didn't, like, they were just separated.
And I really think all of this is just nature correcting itself because most men didn't get to produce historically.
So now women, and then they enforced monogamy because it gets too violent if like the like the bottom third of men are sexless.
So then it gets violent.
So the, you know, people in charge were like, okay, we need monogamy.
And the women were like, no.
The women are like, we won't be straddled down with betas.
And this is what we got.
So every time you collect a check, you're practicing feminism.
Okay.
That's what you think.
No, that's what it is.
Because without feminism, you wouldn't be able to exist.
People keep saying, I hate when people say that.
But it's just shows that you haven't done the research to even understand where the fact is.
Or you don't know history.
Which was discovered.
That's what I'm saying about you because it means there was always female anti-feminist writers, though.
Always.
He said, you don't understand that a bunch of government officials in the CIA funded the feminist movement.
So for all of your hatred for the people who are going to be able to do that.
I'm so confused.
And so my question is: is it bad that they funded it or bad that it just happened?
Men wanted women to go into the workforce.
The government, which had a lot of men, it was being talking about because World War II occurred and we had to go to factories.
And then when we left the factories, they forced us back into the homes.
That's not what I'm saying at all.
So let me tell you what I'm saying and then you can respond to it.
Gloria Steinem is considered to be a feminist icon, right?
Because she led these protests.
She also had a bunch of music festivals.
She got students involved.
It is just a fact that Gloria Steinem was funded by the CIA, okay?
The CIA, being the male-dominated CIA of the 50s and the 60s, funded those movements.
So what do you think was the explicit aim?
Do you think it was because the government really wanted you to be more free that they wanted to encourage women to enter?
Well, I have to be honest with you, I couldn't speak on behalf of the government.
The women nagged them into it in their lives.
Guarantee it.
Some guy's woman just nagged.
I mean, and what their intention.
I think it's important because you just said that I don't know history.
And I think it's pretty important if you're going to sit across from me and say, I don't know history, that you learn a piece of history and then question.
You keep bringing up men.
And I think it's funny because we should talk about men more.
Like you brought up suicide, they're four times more likely to kill themselves, which is why I do.
And while women, we're twice as more often on antidepressants, but that's because we go out and do what we need to do to keep coping.
They're not happy.
And we need to focus on men and the patriarchy because it's actually oppressed them just as much as women now emotionally, right?
Because when we're kids, our parents teach us how to cross the street.
Look both ways so you can get the other side unharmed.
When a boy comes across a feeling, and I'm using men and boys here because they're the ones suffering.
Women are too, but emotionally.
When they come across a feeling they haven't felt before, we have to teach them how to get to the other side and cope with it.
Otherwise, they stay where they are.
That anger and resentment builds.
That's the feeling they become most comfortable with.
That's the feeling they go to first in most situations.
All right, so we need to stop telling our boys that they don't cry because they do.
They just do it alone and then they become even more alone.
You're fat.
All right.
Just nice to meet you.
Okay, so you say that women are more fulfilled at home with kids than going out into the workforce or getting educated, but that just really doesn't bear out.
When you look at the stats, when you look at how working mothers are way less likely to be in poverty, maternal education is the number one predictor of childhood outcomes.
Better scores, getting higher incomes in the future, fewer behavioral problems, better mental health.
So it's weird to me with, and college-educated women are least likely to get divorced.
And they're the only women, the top 10% of women are the only women whose marriage rates are going up.
So they're getting married, they're staying married, and their kids are doing better.
When you look at stay-at-home mothers, you see that they're more likely to report being depressed.
They're more likely to report having anxiety and anger and all these types of things.
So how can you say that?
She won't speak for the government, but she will speak for men, S-M-H.
Seems like a woman, if you want to get married and have kids, you should go to college and have a career.
So it sounds to me like we are looking at totally different statistics because everything that you said, I've actually read the exact opposite.
I'm glad.
Let's not talk about like, I do studies because I have to.
Like, it's part of my job.
I can't just not use studies.
But let's talk about what we see in real life.
What do you see?
Are women unhappy?
I don't see young women being unhappy.
I see old women unhappy when they can't get the attention from alphas anymore.
That's who I see.
That's when women crash out.
On a fact check show, we can't.
Right, exactly.
Oh, it's so exciting.
That's going to be amazing.
Okay, because I know, like I said, I think what we're talking about is that there was this widespread report on.
How did this girl get fat?
My God.
Female happiness.
And I know that it was formally debunked.
That's not what I'm talking about.
Pew Research, University of California.
In fact, working mothers today spend more time with their children than women did in the 1960s that were at home.
Okay.
Well, women that I can tell you, women that are at home are obviously spending more time with their children than the people who are at work.
And their children are not faring off any better and they're faring off worse.
How are you measuring their children faring off worse?
How likely they are to higher incomes, better scores, fewer health problems, fewer behavioral issues, and better mental health.
The just to get back to the claim that I'm making here is that it is obvious that women who have children are going to be more fulfilled.
How is that obvious?
Because you said no, it's not obvious because I said so.
It's because when you look Candace is getting kind of tripped up, they're kind of, I mean, it's tough.
It's a tough environment having like 20 people yell at you and just take shots.
I would have, the way I would have handled that is just say, look, for the purpose of this debate, I am awful.
I am a bad person.
Can we move on to the topics and the studies?
Like, that's that is how I would handle it.
I'd say, look, I understand I am a hypocrite.
I am a bad person.
I get it.
You guys don't like me.
What?
Can we move on?
That's what I would say.
That's how I would do it.
Look at all the statistics in terms of women who are choosing not to have families.
They are, as the person who just sat here before you mentioned, they are suffering from more depression.
They're suffering from more anxiety.
And that's not true.
Okay.
It is true.
It is actually true that women who are choosing their careers over starting families are finding themselves leaning more onto medicines like Xanax, anxiety-inducing medicines, and depression because they suspended that timeframe where women really should be looking to find a partner and to start a family because they were instead pursuing their careers.
Why are there a there?
It has been, it is a dishonest.
It is.
Women don't like men that much.
Men drive us crazy.
They annoy us.
It's because we hate things that we can't control.
We can control children.
We can control the narrative.
We can control the media.
We can control the workforce.
We can control our income to some extent.
But we can't control men.
Men are uncontrollable.
And that's why it drives women crazy.
It's totally a dishonest narrative that men and women want the same things out of life.
We don't.
We absolutely do not want the same things out of life.
In fact, we don't even measure, we don't even measure success the same.
Men and women don't even measure success the same.
So but tell me how the women who are working and getting educated, why are they faring off better in all of these?
I am telling you that I do not believe they are faring off better in all these medications.
I do not believe that because of what?
I am telling you that we are looking at totally opposite statistics.
Like, so you're sitting here telling me that the statistics show that women who are working are producing better children, but I am saying that women that grow up in a two-family home where the mother stays at home are faring off better than the children who are being raised in an environment where the women are parents where both of the parents are working.
Why don't you work from the home?
I do get to work from home.
No, no, no, but that's the idea.
I've watched your show.
You talk about all the nannies you hire and it's so high.
I've heard from people in the industry she has a lot of nannies.
Don't know if that's true, but that's what I've heard.
I remember you talked about all of the nannies I hired.
I spoke about how difficult it was to find a babysitter who knew how to cook a meal.
But so now Candace is entering into her frame.
Candace should have dismissed it.
What would I have said?
I would have said, you talk about all the nannies you hire.
Yeah, a million nannies, thousand, hundred thousand, or you just dismiss, you move on.
Like she's now like she's defending yourself.
Why do you, and this is something I had to like internally look at.
Why do you feel the need to defend yourself?
Like to an only fans model?
Your butt is on the internet.
I don't have to.
That's maybe what.
What would you put in the chat?
What would you tell Candace to overcome this objection?
I would either agree and amplify.
So, you know, you just say, yep, you know, I'm the worst mother ever.
I'm a terrible person.
so can we just move on um or i would go a different route and say let me think let me listen to the rest And that's because you got to meet a babysitter.
You're already, you could retire right now.
I'm glad people respond to you when they're speaking.
You don't want to.
To respond to you when you're talking about it.
No, you don't want to.
You want to be working, which is great.
You are telling me what I want now.
That's true.
I mean, her husband's worth $180 million.
She doesn't need to be doing this, but she's like choosing to put herself in politics, which will affect her career, her kids.
Yeah.
Which is fine.
I'm not saying she shouldn't.
I'm saying it's not what she's selling.
I'm then accusing me of telling you.
Wait, are you, you don't want to work?
Can you just let me finish?
Because you've said so many words that you just, what you're trying to do here, like your argument style, is I'm going to say so much, not let her get awarded, and then walk away and feel like I've won.
We're not having a conversation because you've not letting me respond to you for one of your points.
Okay.
What I am saying to you, first to answer what you just said, which was a lie, what I spoke to you about on the weekends is that it's been increasingly difficult to find a 25-year-old who even knows how to make box macaroni and cheese, right?
And that's crazy.
And that is in large part due to feminism.
Women don't even focus.
Women don't even focus.
Like there's this, there's this, there's this idea.
It's not really feminism.
It's Uber Eats.
That's really it.
Yeah, that women shouldn't be cooking.
Like there's something fundamentally wrong with women even learning how to cook.
Are you getting as much time with your children as you possibly can?
Because that's the way to get the most fulfillment.
No, and that's what I'm trying to say.
I am speaking to you and stop.
Okay, could you please let somebody get in edgewise?
You actually have not let anybody finish.
Like I said, it's, it's, no one benefits when you're just speaking over me and not allowing me to respond.
All you're proving is that you have an attitude and you.
So again, I would have dismissed it.
Let's get back to the topic.
Like you can't by saying, oh, like now she, that's why I think Jasmine actually won this because Candace keeps entering into her frame.
You do feminism, but you're not, see, that's what I'm saying.
You just have an attitude and it's not, it's not trying to, it's performative.
I'm addressing.
That's my point.
I will be quiet.
That's my point.
Does anybody actually feel here that I am being allowed to address any of her points when she just gets running at me?
Like, I'm literally trying to answer your first point of you saying that I don't stay at home.
Yeah, really weird.
Fair point.
Obviously, I get that you're all anti-Candice and pro-feminist, but also it's not productive at all.
Oh, that's a great response.
Candace should pay us for this.
Thank you.
$5 super chat.
What she is doing for her culture war shtick is for her kids so they won't date gynocentric nut jobs.
We all know it's not, but that's a great response.
Do you know what I mean?
You're not actually.
Okay, address the point.
You spend more time saying that I'm not addressing, that you don't have a chance to talk.
I mean, the whole time you could have addressed the point.
Okay.
You could have talked.
Go for it.
I just want you to know that you're not coming across as somebody who wants to actually have a conversation.
So to get back to the claim, because I don't even know where you're at.
You're not talking.
You're saying that I said something.
I'll go wherever you want to.
I'll go wherever you want.
Do you want to start with me working at home?
Because I work at home.
You just said something about me.
You travel all around the world.
Okay.
You do speeches.
And I love that.
I love how ambitious you are.
That's a really great trait.
And if you truly said that you would be more fulfilled.
Now, one thing you do find is women, they don't want to stay at home when you pull them.
They just want flexible working hours and flexible working conditions like you have.
And I think we should all advocate for that.
It's not one or the other.
But when you sit here and you go, you'll be more fulfilled doing this and spend all your time doing that.
We would love for you to leave the public eye and go focus on what makes you fulfilled.
Okay.
She cooked.
It's pretty embarrassing.
That was a great response.
If you had anything else that she should have added, it's tough.
It's a personal attack.
But that's what happens when you use your kids to build your brand.
I had a public relationship once, and I regret it with everything in me.
Making it public.
Do you know what I mean?
It's just, ah, yeah, you don't want to do that.
That's why I'm kind of iffy when I talk about like my personal life because people just use it to weaponize, like weaponize it against you.
And you learn this when you get into media.
But yeah, if you cosplay trad and you're like putting on your Instagram stories, you cooking for your husband and stuff.
Yeah, that's what you get.
Hey, before we go any further, we want to take a moment to say thanks so much to Straight Air News for powering the fact that we live under a matriarch.
All right, so we got half of it.
Okay, well, because let's see, we're about an hour into this video.
I want to do this tomorrow, too.
I'm just debating how I want to cut it.
We'll do a little bit.
We live under a matriarchy, not a patriarchy.
Patriarchy, not a patriarchy.
Hi.
Hello.
Nice to meet you.
It's a pleasure to meet you.
I'm Princella the Queenmaker.
I love that.
So you say we live in a matriarchy.
Right.
Can you give me the definition of patriarchy?
Yes.
Well, the patriarchy is the idea that the system, our system in America is being run by men and that women are having to exist under a system that- You know what I would say if I was Candace?
The good response.
I do work.
I have to bring home the bacon for my husband.
I got to give him king treatment.
I got to treat him like a king.
You know, it's Jasmine Jafarah 5.
I would put her as more attractive than Candace, unfortunately.
I'd put her at like a 6.5 because she's younger, a little prettier, I'd say, even though she has work.
Immediately disadvantages them because men are behind it.
And I disagree with that pointedly.
I think actually we're living in a society where people are being very much influenced socially and politically by women.
Okay.
So the denotative definition of patriarchy is father rule and where positions of government are held majorly by men where women are largely excluded.
So 125 House of Representatives are female and that's only about 25%.
Right.
And only about 28%.
Right, but they have to cater to women because women are the biggest swing voting block.
8% make up Senate and 3.3% of Congress up until this date have ever been women.
So by denotative definition, we literally live in a patriarchy.
Yes.
So I disagree with that.
So I think what this gets to, which is actually an important part of the conversation, is that people always think that where there is disparity, there's somehow inequality.
And I actually reject that entirely.
I think it's just a difference in what we're interested in.
I think we're biologically wired, interested in different careers.
And just because if we looked in the fashion industry and said, oh, well, it's being dominated by women, it wouldn't mean that, okay, well, that means that the fashion industry is a matriarchy and men have no sense.
It just means have no ability to communicate how they feel in the fashion industry.
I literally think that those numbers show that we're just biologically different.
So I actually think politically women have shown that they have a lot more power than men have.
And I'm talking about just in terms of political movements, the most recent I can think of is the Me Too movement, right?
If a bunch of women get together and complain about a man and refer to the patriarchy and scream, generally speaking, let me know if you agree, the media will celebrate that.
If a bunch of men got together and were shrieking and speaking about women, generally speaking, the media would call them all white supremacists and say that we had a misogyny problem and that things were really wrong in society.
Women are allowed to be more vocal in general about problems.
Well, women are.
Well, let me speak to that.
When we're talking about government and media, these are two different things.
So, under the denotative definition of a patriarchy by the percentages that are occupied in the government, which is majority male, defines us as a patriarchy.
Now, what it comes to for capitalism for marketing purposes and control for capital and revenue, that is a totally different conversation.
But who's making the laws?
I don't think that women are the ones voting to have their reproductive rights taken away, where you have rape, incest, and all of these things excluded to force women to be able to have.
I don't think women in government would largely vote against their own interests because it's majority male patriarchy.
Yeah, but you have to cater to the voting block.
That should have been our answer.
I think, love that point.
Are women allowed to vote?
Oh, of course they are.
Who's voting those that patriarchy and then out of curiosity?
No, I totally agree.
And you want to know why?
Because there are so many women who think like you.
You submit to the idea of men ruling everything.
And your ideology is spread across.
I think what I would say in these debates, we're getting kicked off of YouTube.
Yeah, because they're better at everything.
And you guys are nuts.
I don't want a woman in charge.
Not all women, not all women.
Oh, I can't.
Is that hard for you guys as men just thinking these things and not being able to say it?
Government and media are not separate things.
Operation Mockingbird is alive and well.
Thank you.
A lot of women who also falsely believe to vote against their own interests just to complain about it in the end.
You know, earlier you said that, you know, women would be much more happier working at home.
But don't you agree that it's human nature to want things that you don't have?
So during the 1950s, which is something that you constantly bring up, you know, it wasn't until 1994 that it was legally illegal to beat your wife.
And so what we're dealing with is people wanting something and then when they get it, they're not happy with it.
And then they have to.
But women are never happy.
So like the first mistake was ever trying to appease women because you can give them the world and they still won't be happy.
Provoke that idea for something else.
And so what you're saying is that women vote for these things because they have the same mentality as you.
Okay.
So you're acknowledging that women have the freedom to vote.
Yes.
And you're saying that women are still existing mentally, even with the freedom to vote.
Correct.
They are voting men in because we are still victims of.
No, I don't believe in victimhood.
I believe in lack of education and lack of knowledge because one of the things that you also say- Do you think that it could just be that more men are running for positions of office?
No, not necessarily.
Because remember, the United States, the average reading comprehension of people.
I think it's because men are better at everything, but not all.
Not all, not all.
In the United States, it's sixth grade.
So we're not dealing with educated people.
Lack of education is the cause for what we see in the world.
And if we educate the women better, because a nation can rise no higher than its woman, and if she reading and comprehending at a sixth grade level and popping out a lot of kids, you know, because the brokest people in the world pop out the most kids.
So if we have those people voting, of course they're going to vote against their interests because they're voting for some utopian society that will never exist.
Okay, so that's that's why you think Kamala lost.
This ain't even about Kamala.
You're talking about women.
But we had an opportunity.
Yeah, go ahead.
We had a male running and we had a female.
Yeah, go ahead and they're like, Pearl, just say it.
Yeah, I was unemployed for a year and a half.
That was not a fun year and a half.
I thank you guys every day for the super chat, but that was a tough.
Do you know what it's like?
I did this show basically throughout the whole time.
And you guys saw me.
My mood was terrible because I was working for free.
Yeah.
So female running.
And we actually showed that Trump increased the amount of women who voted for him, right?
So I'm asking.
And Trump's an alpha.
That's why.
Women love alpha men.
I'm asking you, do you believe that the reason that happened was because women became less educated during that time?
They've always been less educated.
Did you know that UNESCO says that two-thirds of the 7.7 million illiterate adults is women?
Oh, that's hilarious.
I feel like I can't read sometimes.
I'm actually, do you know what's funny about that?
Oh my God, I'm going to cook.
They're going to cook me.
They're going to cook me.
Sometimes I'll read like words.
You guys notice it.
Like, I just can't pronounce them.
I don't know how.
I've literally thought about taking a reading class, but that is hilarious.
We want us to have an equal say when two-thirds of adults who can't read are women.
Illiterate.
And we have six grade educated people voting.
And guess who?
God help us.
Guess the dominant population is white women.
And so guess what?
Now you have to add a race element into that, which you already know exists.
Because we, as black folks, we ain't the dominant people voting people in.
Okay.
So now when we have to go into white supremacy and feminism, now you have to look at the mind of the people who actually have economic success and what they're voting for because classism actually matters as well.
So I'm sorry, but a lot of people vote based on their feelings and not based on policy.
Pause, guys.
yes sorry you've been voted out by them she's almost more feminine than candace in a weird way even though she's doing the dyke thing So she's like talking slowly, calm, cool, collected.
Majority of people are friends.
Although, to be fair, it's tough to be calm when you have like 10 people coming for you at once.
I've been there.
It's tough.
Thank you for the respectful conversation.
Hi.
How are you?
Good to do.
I'm this dude.
It's you.
I'm doing well.
So I view this argument as a matter of fact, right?
This is a descriptive claim about the culture reality we live in and patriarchy being a system in which men hold the predominance of power in both political, economic, and social methods of organization.
So S ⁇ P 500 companies, 90% of CEOs are men.
Board members, 70% of CEOs are men.
Because we can't do it.
If we could, we would.
Or if we wanted to, we would.
80% of congressional members are men.
Now you may be.
We could start our own company and just go.
Provide some sort of naturalistic argument to why that is.
But what you're essentially arguing then is that there's a natural patriarchy, which I think feminists would all disagree with.
We think that there is a clear social pressure as to why this is.
And part of the evidence for that is since feminisms arise within our public culture, we've now seen an explosion of women entering these fields, but we have a long way to go.
But fundamentally, the claim regarding patriarchy or matriarchy, we are so much closer to where we were just a few decades ago or several, a couple generations ago where women couldn't hold a credit card than a system where men can't hold the credit card.
We're still much closer to that form of society.
Why would you say that we're closer to that?
What do you mean by that?
Because in terms of economic power, so for example, household wealth, women own 55 cents to every dollar a man owns.
Who controls household spending, though?
Talk about how the money's made in America.
How is it being spent?
So it's primarily spent by women, as you've noted, but then the money where the profit's being generated.
It's being generated by you rather be the people that are spending and deciding on what the money is being spent on, or would you rather be the person that's just working to earn it?
Well, CEOs and board members aren't working.
Oh, they own the shares and they're making the profit.
Well, when you own it, you would, yeah, you would rush much in a capitalist system, by definition, you would much rather be making the profit than spending.
I would much rather be spending your money than having to work for your money.
Just so we are totally clear here, I would much rather spend your money than have to go out and earn your money.
Well, you're talking about wage laborers in terms of working, but in terms of spending power.
Right.
Well, yeah, well, sure.
But that matters.
If 85%, 85 cents of every dollar, how that's being spent is being determined by women, that's power.
We can't say it's spending power is not.
Why do you think that is the case?
It's because women are often relegated to the role of doing grocery shopping, et cetera.
Because for millennia now, I mean, you can even Uber Eats groceries now.
What more do we want?
Or from millennia up until now, women were unable to enter the workforce and have economic political power.
So let's get into the reasons because you brought up something that men are the people that are at the top of these companies, these Fortune 500 companies.
And political power.
Absolutely right.
Pearl Reid, you are so dead on as long as they think they're getting their cake and eating it too.
They think they're happy when they're still too young to reap the results.
Yep.
Let me see what else we got.
Pearl, what is the one thing that a guy gets from a woman that is specifically unique to women's sex and feminine appearance?
Everything else can come from alternative sources.
Yep.
I want to see if there's any more.
By the way, we get unlimited super chats on the website.
So it's 10 bucks a month.
We're about to move the school into the app.
So everything's going to be on the app.
I think I fixed the app.
So if you guys could confirm that I did, if you can see it in Google Play and the App Store, it's the Audacity Network, you know, help a girl out.
I see it on my phone, but I just want to make sure you guys are.
We're going to spend some time on the website.
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And then we will, we're actually, we have time to get to it again.
We're a little short-staffed because of the year and a half, but now we're moving mountains.
You just got to give us a little time.
Why is that?
It's primarily because the women haven't broken the ceiling quite yet in terms of meeting men.
This guy has a nightstand full of dildos in terms of parity with these sort of powers.
But what we've seen with the explosion of feminism is that women have actually begun to enter these companies, have risen into both political and economic positions of power.
But that continues to grow year by year, which shows that these social pressures are actually breaking apart as soon as feminism comes into play.
What I would say is what that shows you is that women and men have different interests.
And I think this gets into what I was saying: that just because you see a disparity.
Men like making money, women like being lazy.
That's the different interests.
Disparity does not mean that it's not just a disparity in what our interests are.
That's what's being represented.
I don't know why there has been this idea that women should want to aspire to work 80 hours a week in order to be on par with men.
Women don't want to do that.
They don't.
Do you think that interests are innate, or do you think interests are innate?
So, why is it then that, for example, in the 1980s, only a quarter of college graduates were women, where now majority of college graduates are women?
That shows that because of the way that social pressures have actually changed, women's interests are actually now changing too.
A majority, I think, or at least half of law school graduates are now women.
It used to be the case, for example, a few hundred years ago, that a lot of primary philosophers like Immanuel Kant, Hegel, didn't even believe women could be reasonable.
Now, here you are today doing a debate with they can't be.
We can't be.
Look, I might be reasonable right now, but I mean, who knows?
I might be unreasonable tomorrow.
I've seen more reasonable women than me become completely unreasonable.
We can only hope, you know what I mean?
With me, where we're using logic and reason to get to the upscale, and nobody here would dismiss the claim that you can't be rational or logical or be, for example, a great lawyer because you're a woman, right?
So, I totally agree with you that women, but I think they have actually entered into the workforce.
I mean, entered into college under this external pressure of feeling that if you don't go to college, the best thing about women crying for equality is when it arrives, when accountability is part of the deal, hence the student loan issue.
Yep, college are going to be a failure.
So, you can't do that.
And don't worry that are a part of the way interests work.
Yes, but we're disagreeing on where the pressure is coming from.
Like, I think that now the pressure is that if a woman doesn't enter the force, it's there's there's no longer this idea that okay, we're gonna come together as a family, whereas there was this reality that there was this understanding that you would have a partner.
People were getting married when they were 18, 19 years old.
Our grandparents, now it's because of feminism.
And I'm saying this is actually the downside of feminism: women no longer have that sense.
They think that if you have to be pressured to go take out a loan to go to college, and then you have the pressure to get well, they have the same pressures as men because we no longer rely on for an income.
Pause, you've been voted out by the majority.
We're going to end it on him.
So, tomorrow we're going to finish this.
We're at 54 minutes.
And I'm really excited to react to feminism has made things easier for men to the editors.
Make that part of the title in the cut, like in the quotes.
Put Candace's face and put quotes: Feminism has made things easier for men.
Other thing, on the Pearl learning platform, we're making, I'm making a really in-depth course about how to build a YouTube channel.
It's going to go through like the basically the routes you're going to go if you want to learn the skills yourself or if you'd want to hire someone to do them and how to pick good and bad editors.
Because I can tell you mistakes I've made, good choices I've made.
We recently had a woman graduate law school with Down syndrome.
Damn, they're letting anybody go.
But so, if you guys have specific questions that have to do with how to build a YouTube channel, I really want to make this like a really extensive course.
So, also in the next few weeks, I'm going to bring back the Tuesday, like bringing people on to give presentations.
I do apologize for the slowdown when we were filming content for the course because we have some course content already.
We just, you know, again, a year and a half of unstaffed.
Now, we're getting things moving again, which is really great because we have a really good team in place.
But, yeah, so Pearl, ever since you got demonetized, has Pierce not invited you back on his show.
Yeah, if you guys have questions for the end of the show, I don't mind doing them.
I'm just putting the super chat.
Yeah, I mean, I think Pierce stopped inviting me on one because I left England.
Like, they liked I would come on the show, and two, um, I'm just not as famous or like well-known as I used to be.
You know what I mean?
Like at the one point, this channel had a billion views.
I was getting 100 million views a month.
And I like skyrocketed.
And it was almost in a way that wasn't the smartest.
I really enjoy my level of fame now.
I really do.
Because I enjoy this job, but I don't really like.
There's a point where I was kind of nervous.
I couldn't live a normal life.
Like, you don't really want to feel like you can't do normal things without people tweeting about it or text, you know, or just like, you know, like, nobody wants to go in public and feel like everybody's watching them and just ready to.
So I would say it's probably because I just don't get the views I used to get.
You know.
Does anyone else have any questions?
Let me read the other thing.
If you guys want to donate to the divorce documentary, that's really been a long project of mine.
I'd really like to finish it, but we just got to get to 100K.
Then I can really put real moves.
We've got 31,000, which is pretty cool.
Pretty cool.
You guys are great.
But I really want to have like a six months to a year salary saved for the person we hired to do this.
And the reason is I would hate to start and stop again because that's really what happened last time.
Let's see what we got.
I don't, no, I don't need bodyguards.
Well, I don't want to say that.
I don't want to jinx it.
But I can live a normal life now.
But after the Tate interview, everywhere I went, I would be recognized.
Like, I couldn't really go outside and not have someone come up to me and want to take a picture and stuff.
I still do now, but it's just a lot less where I can just live a lot more normal of a life.
Pearl, I dipped out.
Did you answer my chat about needing an editor?
Okay, so I'm not hiring for the documentary thing.
I'm raising the money first.
Once we raise the money, I'll look into that.
We are hiring clippers, so we have to figure out the onboarding process, but I have a lot of clips channels that are monetized.
And I'm doing 2080 splits with people.
There's no cap.
But we need to train the people we onboard on how to not get.
I need you guys to not clip or do certain.
I need you guys to stay within guidelines in your clippings so you can't get hate speech in the title or the thumbnail.
So we got to figure out a way to manage that.
So once we figure that out, we are doing 2080 splits.
And there's going to be an affiliate program with that for the course.
Let's see what else.
If there's anything else I should read.
Otherwise, we're going to end the show because I got a I think that's it.
That's all I got.
Well, thank you guys for watching.
I really appreciate it as usual.
You guys are a pleasure.
Thank you so much for allowing me to do what I do.
I'm very grateful because I do very much enjoy the show.
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