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June 23, 2025 - Pearly Things - Pearl Davis
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Why Should I Have Hope (Call-In Show) | Pearl Daily

Pearl critiques modern marriage and gender roles, citing The Hill’s framing of men as "useless" and divorce statistics—74% for third marriages—while warning of financial ruin ($200K in legal fees) and societal collapse driven by women’s self-interest, hookup culture, and OnlyFans trends. Callers debate systemic change, with Chris claiming only 10% of marriages last and Donnie invoking Malthusian demographics, but all agree hope is futile unless 51% resist. Instead, they advocate pragmatic strategies: renting homes, dating apps (Hinge), or even sex robots, though AI’s emotional limits may leave women behind. Brad’s real-world failures—wives leaving over health/finances—underscore the "subscription model" of modern relationships, where commitment is rare. Ultimately, self-reliance and financial security are the only viable defenses against a culture that increasingly rejects permanence. [Automatically generated summary]

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Following question.
Do we need men?
Most answered very quickly, no, because men are useless.
This headline from The Hill, it caught my eye.
Most young men are single.
Most young women are not.
Young men have fallen faster than any demographic in America over the last 40 years.
It's a different world now.
Like, we don't need men the way that they used to.
The future is female.
Men and women are drifting further apart, and society is crumbling because of it.
A fascinating debate has broken out about the value of marriage.
You've kind of got the TradCon versus Red Pill thing.
This men's rights crowd that sometimes just goes too far the other way.
Oh, you need to stop acting like grown boys and infants and actually become men.
Marriage is a bond and it's a sacred bond.
It's a machine designed to extract resources from you.
Now many of the red-pilled have taken the position that it's bad for men to get married.
Hannah Pearl Davis or just pearly things.
One of the most controversial faces in all of the internet.
She goes on to say that marriage is a terrible deal for men.
Because if me and you were in a business contract, you would never sign a contract where I am paid to leave.
Gee, what could go wrong there?
74% or something of divorces are initiated by women.
Men have everything to lose, primarily their own children.
Men get killed by the courts and by divorce laws.
I had no idea that courts of family law were courts of equity, not courts of law.
Because in family court, you don't need evidence to accuse someone of abuse.
You need no evidence.
When you guys say get married young, a lot of these men don't know what they're signing up for, and you're not going to be there when their entire life falls apart.
I interviewed them on the other side.
I didn't meet my son until he was 15 months old.
How much did you spend trying to get him back?
The legal fees alone was about $200,000.
Before you know it, you're homeless.
You're literally just thrown out into the street.
We absolutely reinforce bad behavior from women.
Wives are taught to leave their husbands, and then daughters grow up without their fathers.
Family is the foundation of society.
Every problem in society comes from single mother homes.
A lot of women will just chase this negative rapid hole of happiness, endless happiness.
Feminism's biggest failure is it lies to women.
We tell women to date as many guys as possible.
We tell them to put off family in a marriage.
You are allowed to leave your perfect husband.
You are allowed to end a relationship with a really great boyfriend.
Oh, freeze your channel, have an abortion.
What?
You're evil.
I don't think there's anything else in life that we actually ever go into preparing to fail.
Like if you have the mentality of this is going to go wrong and be pessimistic, naturally the outcome is going to be that it's going to fail anyway.
It's self-sabotage.
That's the thing.
Like women are so willing to leave marriages because they're not happy.
This is not about happiness.
The most important thing is the children.
And the problem is we have a modern society where it's me, me, me.
My feelings leave when I feel like it instead of doing what's best for the kids.
This myth that we live in an age of male privilege.
Where's my male privilege?
They think, well, men have all the rights.
They have all the power.
Privilege patriarchal system that we have.
Why doesn't our society care about men's rights?
I have no friends, no wife, and no social life.
Men are alone in this situation.
Men are homeless.
Men are thinking about eating guns.
I've seen so many men on the brink of suicide and they didn't do anything wrong.
How are you equal if the men are the ones that have to fight and die to defend the country?
The men are the ones that build and maintain all the infrastructure.
Women are helplessly dependent upon men.
The so-called deaths of despair from suicide, overdose, or alcohol, three times higher among men than among women.
Culture is telling men, you are no good.
You gotta get your act together.
I think men have failed themselves.
What kind of a man are you?
What kind of a woman are you going to attract?
If men are in trouble, so are women.
Everybody knows this is a huge problem, but nobody wants to admit it.
Every single woman at the table said they wanted a man.
500K, 500, 200K, 300K, 200K.
Am I crazy?
Everything is really set up against you to fail as a man.
If men make less than women, women don't want to marry them.
So, you know who wants more economically and emotionally viable men?
Women.
I don't want to be an independent woman anymore.
I don't want to be a strong, independent woman.
I'm over it.
When is it going to be my turn?
Where are we meeting the men that don't stop?
I can't keep having these same conversations.
The only simp here is you, Pearl.
You sent for women.
I think you sent for women.
She's a provocateur.
She says stupid stuff, but Pearl is right about this.
It's already happening.
It's just not out in the open yet.
Now it's just hookup culture is going to be our fairy tale ending because men don't want a wife and women can't find a husband.
The future, if everybody follows your path, is there is no future.
We don't want the population decline and our economy goes into decline.
Civilization will crumble.
The American story does not end well.
This is an existential crisis failing young men.
What is going on, everybody?
Welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily.
I am your host, Pearl, and the conclusions that I've come to on the show are from my experience interviewing a thousand women.
As you guys know, I went from, you know, doing silly reaction videos to having one of the biggest shows in the country to now giving my commentary on life, society, and so on.
So, what I had in the beginning was a trailer for my divorce documentary.
They don't really like what I have to say.
So, you know what they do to content creators like me that are honest, that don't pander to women.
They demonetize us.
I've gone through eight TikTok accounts, four Instagrams, and I was demonetized for a year and a half.
And because of that, we had major setbacks in finishing the divorce documentary.
I worked for free for a year and a half, had to let go of all my staff, and now we're rebuilding, which is the fun part because we are remonetized on YouTube.
However, we are asking for donations for our divorce documentary.
So, if you guys want to, once we get to about 100K, we can actually put the documentary together.
We want to make sure it's a high-quality film.
It does say a million dollars that we are raising, but the reason that I have that is because that's the quote I got from a very high-end team.
But at $100K, which we're at about $30,000, we're $500 away from $30,000.
So, thank you guys so much.
Okay, I'm done with my sales pitch.
So, welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily.
Long time subscribers have seen my entire YouTube journey.
So, I started off very, very naive.
I really had no idea what was going on in these streets.
I went to a small high school, a small college, and I worked in a sales job in a smaller city.
And when I went to London to play volleyball and I started my YouTube show on the side, everything changed.
So, I transitioned from the pregame show, which was a debate show about six days a week, to Pearl Daily.
And it is really to Pearl Daily, which is a commentary show and a call-in show.
And it's allowed me to deep dive on a lot of these topics.
I have a person on staff that helps with these shows, and him and I do a lot of research for these shows.
And the more we deep dive into these subjects, the more black-pilled I get.
And I noticed in the last video, I think it was Friday, people in my comment section are really starting to notice because it's really all I see under my videos now.
All the comments say, Pearl, you're too black-pilled.
Pearl, you've lost hope.
And I already did a show asking if I'm too black pilled, so I got all out of the way, got that out of the way.
But have I lost hope?
Now, I want to talk about that for a second.
The definition of hope is a feeling of expectation and desire for certain things to happen.
An example would be that modern women with children hope to find a Russell Wilson simp to save them and their bastard kid from poverty.
Another example would be that Christian men hope to find a virtuous woman that won't divorce them, take half their stuff, and alienate them from their children.
Many people in the red pill space will tell you that hope is not a strategy in the current dating market.
In this current dating and relationship market, hope can lead you down a path of destruction in 2025.
So have I lost hope?
I would say yes.
Why would I have hope for modern day relationships and marriage between men and women?
Tell me why.
Do I have hope for myself?
Of course I do.
Do I have hope for my friends and family?
Of course I do.
But society at large, I do not.
I don't.
All of the things that make me less hopeful are only going to increase over time.
Despite what TradCons say, America will never go back to the 1950s and 60s.
Everything that's tearing society apart is only going to get worse.
Modern women are going to keep being hoarse, having bastard kids, spending too much money, and putting themselves into debt.
There's nothing that me or anyone watching this channel can do about it.
When your job is to report the facts like mine is, you just keep looking at what's happening in society and anyone would lose hope.
So today's show, I want people to call in and tell me why I should have hope in today's society when it comes to men and women and marriage and children.
Tell me how we can get women to stop aborting their children, value their husbands, and spend less money.
Tell me how we can get women to value anything other than themselves and their own selfish desires.
So I want to read a couple comments we had last video.
And by the way, anyone that left these comments is more than welcome to call in.
Now, by the way, this is a discussion.
I try not to make it a debate.
I may have counterpoints for you, but I always am going to give you the benefit of the microphone.
Unless you ramble for a little bit too long, I may have to cut you off.
But it's just for the quality of the show.
So, GT Base said, Pearl, please don't let the daunting nature of society defeat you.
Yes, Tate spent three years doing this and I watched you go from nothing to having your own show, becoming successful, getting demonetized, but who cares?
What matters is that you improved your life, supporting your mentality.
But now it seems like you're almost letting it defeat you.
Tate is still doing the same shit, preaching the same message.
He's just not quite as controversial about it, about it.
But get him worked up and it'll all come out.
He hasn't changed, nor should you.
Don't sell out.
I don't even know who Pearl is anymore.
Honestly, I don't, I'm baffled.
I'm baffled.
Has she been lying the whole time?
Do you know some of the things you said, things per you, we said tonight.
Before you hated feminism, and I thought you hated women behaving and acting in certain ways.
But you don't think it's liberating?
Like, I'm totally baffled.
Totally.
I understand Pearl being blackpilled.
She's a woman at the end of the day, but not Tate.
As a man, when you give up leadership, it's done.
I realized something tonight, or I never realized about watching all of Pearl's videos.
I realized something tonight that will stay with me for a long time.
Why do I still watch her?
Because I still watch per se.
Because I've watched her for so long and I like her arguments and her worldview.
But what she has said tonight, some of the things she has said has literally made me question her.
Pearl is getting there.
She is finally out of the TradCon narrative and reaching closer to the truth.
Out of the darkest place of the internet, she is the closest one to the truth.
Now, other people have other opinions, right?
Some people are saying this is the best I've seen Pearl do.
Previously, I felt like she was making things up to please others and make money, but this feels so genuine.
I'm a Western male and I'm planning on marrying a Muslim woman, a young one, to experience the 1950s vibe.
I'm not delusional.
She'll probably get Westernized and leave me when she gets older.
Still, I want that glimpse in my lifetime.
And I hope she'll stay with me for life, even if it's unlikely.
Christopher in the chat said, I used to have so much respect for Pearl, fighting for women to be the way they used to be and men to step up and be men.
The fact that she's changing her mind makes me lose respect.
You are out of touch, Pearl, about things.
Think thoroughly.
If you think there's nothing you can do about your daughter, it's stupid.
So we just leave it to chance.
That's a powerless mindset.
Pearl, your nihilism is a mistake.
Nihilism is and always has been a mistake.
As one succumbs to fear to get nihilism, we can change the world by changing ourselves.
In fact, as social creatures, your health is not even possible to void the presence of another's best.
So what's your best?
You will never know it unless you keep applying actions, small, consistent actions.
Know your love.
As a collective society, if we focus more on me, me, me while disregarding virtue and morals, you won't have a country, let alone a population in a couple generations.
Disregard your kids or future people for now will be the downfall of us all.
I mean, Bonnie Blue didn't come up with this new point of view.
It's called nihilism, and that was my outlook on life.
Pearl said something I agree with, though.
The black pill is where I'm at.
Just accept the world for how it is and navigate it accordingly.
I'm playing the game with the rules we have now, not the rules I wish we had.
Pearl, the way you describe your questioning, Pearl, the way you describe questioning your sanity doing this job is what nurses go through working in an insane asylum, even for a short time.
You deal with so many nutty people.
You have made a mistake, Pearl.
There's no pride in being more like Blonnie.
Dear Pearl, you can never understand nor explain the life of a world without God.
I am afraid everyone who attempts eventually hits a wall and breaks.
That makes God laugh out loud.
Pearl, what are you talking about?
For you to say that you don't know what you will do until it happens to you just tells me that you don't know who you are and what you stand for.
If you don't know what you stand for, then who are you?
You're the type of person that says one thing, but you start doubting yourself when the pressure is on.
It's one thing to admire someone living life on their own terms.
It's another to respect the fact that those terms are debauchery.
It's like you said, you respect a psychopath or a serial killer because they live life on their own terms.
Pearl is like, I lost the will to live?
Okay guys, that's a little bit far.
That's a little bit, okay.
I certainly did.
The world is beyond loss.
It's tragic and unrepairable.
The black pill outlook is really sad.
Be more like Andrew Wilson and fight, you garbage girl.
Or fight this garbage girl.
So I wrote some notes that I just wanted to, I kind of wanted to spitball.
If you guys will let me spitball a little bit, because I just want to have an honest conversation about this.
Because I realized during that stream, maybe my audience is confused.
They're thinking, what do you stand for, Pearl?
Do you stand for nothing now?
So growing up, I was one of 10, I was one of 10 kids.
I had nine siblings growing up.
And my parents were married for a very, are married, have been married for a very long time.
So I went to a really, really small middle school, like super small, 30 kids.
And to be honest, divorce was not the norm.
It wasn't.
I can remember maybe two divorces in our middle school.
And high school is pretty similar.
Most people had married parents.
But, and you think that traditionalism is the answer.
Your parents were married.
You grew up with married parents.
Here's the issue you get into.
The world changes fast.
And if you don't adapt, you get left behind.
And what happens is content creators that come from conservative values and very much believe it get backed into a corner.
Because what happens is you're raised one way and you believe that is true.
But then you start to see people you know.
And in my case, women that I knew that were better than me do worse things that I would think I would do.
Women that were with the same guy since high school I thought would never divorce their boyfriend or their husband, sorry, break up with their boyfriends or divorce their husbands.
Women that married young, that I've known since childhood.
Women I thought would never do that, whose parents didn't do that, started doing it in the last five years of my life.
I would see the women that would come on the show and say they were traditional and realize that none of them were, not one.
And when you're a YouTuber, you can't not see this.
I think under 30, maybe under 30, it's possible that you live in a pocket where you haven't noticed how fast everything's changed.
However, over 30, the Michael Knowles of the world, the Matt Walsh's of the world, they see traditionalism not working.
They see Steven Crowder getting divorced.
They see the one guy I debated, I think his name was, and it was so, it's so dishonest and it really bothers me.
Like I debated Trent Horn and it turns out a guy that he did his podcast with for years is getting divorced.
And you start to realize that the guys that did the traditional thing get the worst treatment.
The worst.
You know, you just see how their wives disrespect them publicly.
And things you thought work that worked for millennia don't work the same way they used to.
Imagine if you're most relationships nowadays are on dating apps.
What if you think you're above dating apps?
But you probably just won't have a relationship.
So, what happens is the YouTubers, we start with a lot of these thoughts and they get backed into a corner where their worldview, for example, where Michael Knowles has to make the choice: is my worldview wrong?
And I, you know, I don't know if these guys, it's because of they're lying intentionally or unintentionally.
I can only speculate.
But you get to a point where you realize that they either want to be right so bad that they can't be honest or they're lying to get money and they're not being honest with the audience.
When I was young, I watched a lot of Daily Wire content.
I did.
And I thought traditionalism was coming back.
I really did.
But it's gone.
It's dead.
We are not going back to the 1950s.
Now, what happens is a lot of people will tell me, well, why don't we fight?
Why don't we fight back?
And what tends to happen when you're a YouTuber is you get in these really heated debates and you're debating people.
And you start arguing about the way things should be.
And because you're telling off these people, you kind of feel like you're doing something.
You have the audience applauding to you.
But Andrew Tate had the whole world applauding to him and he spent a year in prison.
Influencers do not have the political impact that you might think.
Now, the next thing is, well, Pearl, you should fight it and convince women to be better.
And what I can say is that's impossible.
That is an impossible test.
Women are not logical.
So they're not like men where they're going to see the consequences of their actions and immediately make a better decision, right?
The other thing was, when I interviewed women, there would be women that seemed to have a change of heart.
And what happened was they would still do the same thing.
Now, you kind of get into a corner where you have to think: a lot of content creators get into this corner, and what happens is instead of being honest, they say what people want them to hear.
And it would be way easier to just say, all right, guys, traditionalism is coming back.
All right, guys, women should get back in the kitchen.
Women should, and I have, I have said a lot of it.
But it's just, it's, I don't see it happening.
I don't.
And unfortunately, and this isn't what I wanted to be true, I see, especially men that do it the right way, that do it the traditional way, I see them get completely destroyed.
And I see men, especially that do it the untraditional way, get a happy wife and a family.
That's what I see.
An example of this is there is a guy, his name's Tucker Max, I think.
And I'm not even a huge reader, but this guy was one of the funniest authors I ever read.
And he just wrote about his hoe escapades.
And he basically just ran through like probably a thousand women.
And at the end of it, he did the typical TradCon talking point, like Dan Bolzarian, whatever.
Oh, it wasn't worth it.
It was so empty.
But he goes through that.
And at the end, now he has a farm in Texas with a loving wife and kids.
Do you know who doesn't have a farm in Texas with a loving wife and kids, Crowder?
And I hate using him because actually, I really, he's a really good person.
I really like him.
But there's no morality in dating.
There's not.
There are women that were complete whores in college.
I would say are more married than the prudes.
That's what I've seen.
And it makes sense when you think about it because sex comes before relationships nowadays.
It makes sense.
You know, I've talked to women that go on hinge dates or Tinder dates or whatever, and they're virgins and they are trying to find a guy that's waiting till marriage.
And I mean, their two choices are, and I'm being honest here, guys they don't really aren't really attracted to.
And the guys they are attracted to would just ghost them because they don't want to wait.
Guys with a choice, right?
Am I supposed to ignore the fact that I've shown women the material and they get flown out by...
I know one girl that got flown out by a billionaire that came on my show, a literal bee billionaire.
You guys, I would never say who, but you'd never guess who it was.
Am I supposed to just ignore that?
And when you think about it from her point of view, why wouldn't she go?
On the upside, she could get access to a billion dollars.
On the downside, she could get ghosted and not called back, but I mean, you guys will accept it anyway.
Like the men, someone will take her after, or she can just lie.
And it would be so much easier for me to moralize and say that's wrong, that's wrong, that's wrong.
But for what?
So I can look like a good person?
I'd rather just be honest and say this is what's happening.
Am I supposed to ignore the fact that there's always a simp?
Always.
The government simps and bails them out.
We keep hearing about student loan forgiveness.
They raise our taxes and give more government programs that bail women out.
Bonnie Blue will most likely get married and have a family.
She'll probably have a son or two.
And conservatives like Michael Knowles and whatever that girl was that just came on.
Lila Rose will keep platforming whores over smart, intelligent men.
That's going to keep happening.
Women will take over the churches.
And a lot of these conservatives are lying.
They're pretending things will get better to play on your heartstrings.
Some, I think, have good intentions from the jump because you do think one way.
But as I got more life experience and wisdom, I just, I had to start seeing things for what they are.
And I'm lucky I got to this point now because I know people that are in their 40s and 50s and still are just starting to see things for the way that they are.
So what do I see for the future?
I think we're going to see more older, younger relationships on both sides, older women with younger men and older men with younger women.
Sex work is going to become way more common.
Women are going to get way more slutty.
You're going to see less families.
And if you look outside, that's what I see.
You know, now there's all these huge like hobby communities that used to be for kids.
Like when I was a kid, all the kids would do these dance communities.
All the kids would play sports.
It wasn't really an adult thing.
But now the adults are doing it.
Women will push marriage to 35 or 40 sometime in my life.
There's going to be more autistic children because of old eggs and smartphones.
Technology is coming and it's not going away.
Most people will be socially awkward.
There's going to be more long-distance relationships because people meet online.
The people that do not adapt will be left behind.
Women will have a larger ability to ruin men's reputation because of social media.
And that will be a form of power women already have, but will continue to have.
The new virginity is going to be going into marriage without a kid.
Most kids will be born outside of marriage.
That's what I see for the future.
Now, before I want to be completely nihilistic, I do want to say I do see a silver lining.
I do.
Women are doing exactly what they want and being exactly who they are.
I think there is less deception.
Gone are the days where women stay behind their husbands who they actually hate.
When I did interviews, I interviewed so many women whose traditional mothers told them not to do what they did.
Their so-called traditional mothers that stayed married to their husbands for a lifetime, secretly hated their fathers, and completely poisoned the well for the daughters.
There's no hiding that anymore.
There's no reason to stay.
The days of women sticking it out with men they hate are gone.
The women will just bounce, meaning that the only marriage that is left is two people that really love each other.
Most people will never get this kind of love, but I do believe that the people that do stay together, despite society and the world pushing them apart, have a stronger love than the people in the past, because now there is no reason for people to stay.
Unfortunately, most of this, unfortunately, most people will never get that, but it is nice to know that it does exist.
In a way, you also have the option to be free from women.
There's no nagging, no degrading.
A scorned wife is much worse than no wife.
Peace and silence is better than a wife that makes you feel lonely.
Now men don't have to die in war.
Many day-to-day problems are solved.
You can get Uber Eats.
There's going to be sex bots, dildos.
Yeah, it's kind of weird, but you can focus on your hobbies more than your parents or your grandparents.
Feminism has freed women from the kitchen and freed men from their traditional responsibilities as well.
Guys don't have to hear man up, do the right thing anymore.
That's the world we're living in.
Society and women can no longer shame you into sacrificing your mental, emotional, physical, and monetary health from anything that doesn't benefit you.
And my final point is nothing is worse in life than failed expectations.
So I think people are more disappointed that go into marriage expecting it to work.
People that go in and say, you know what?
I think we'll be together forever.
There's no reason to think of it not working.
But I would rather be honest and manage people's expectations than have you guys come back to me in a decade and say, screw you, I thought the world was going to be something different.
So I want you guys to call in and tell me why should I have hope?
Why?
Why should I expect something different?
Is there data I'm not seeing?
And I do want to say one thing about data.
The first level of it has to match what I see in the real world.
So is there something maybe you're seeing that I'm not seeing?
Should I expect something different?
So, yeah, I mean, I don't know if I call it Black Pill because I think I can have a great life and I think you can have a great life.
I think that life begins at the other end of this.
Because when you're at the other end of this, you realize you cannot change the world.
You can control the things you can control and you can focus on the things that impact your immediate life.
So let's put the link in the chat, Doug MPA.
You can get on the line.
I think that life begins on the other end of Blackpill.
Because then you don't have any expectations.
If you get kids, you get them.
If you don't, you don't.
If you find love, you find it.
If you don't, you don't.
Nothing is worse in life than going in thinking the world is one way when it's not.
If you go in and you know, five years in your wife's going to stop sleeping with you, you can just start cheating.
Find wife number two.
You cannot put the house in your name and expect her to try to take the house.
You can only rent.
You won't put things aside to make her happy because she's just going to leave later, most likely.
But call in.
Colin, maybe I'm.
Yeah, oh, that's the other thing.
I want to put in one more thing.
People say, but Pearl, like things will World War III will start and women will get back in the kitchen.
Well, if that were true, then you wouldn't have seen the Ukrainian women having sex with the soldiers on the other side.
World War III women are not going back to their kitchen.
They're going to a party city.
And I don't think, you know, and remember, life is short.
The amount of time it takes for a society to fully decline, it may happen when I'm older, but you know, when is this crumbling going to happen?
And do I really want to, should we really plan for a crumble immediately?
And what if it happens in 20 years?
Okay, you can, maybe your kids and your grandkids' life.
Doug MPA, are you on the line?
I am here.
How are you doing?
I'm good.
How are you?
I'm good.
You know, the show's been a long time coming.
You know, I was looking through all of the comments on a couple of your videos and people started to know, oh, you're black pill, you're nihilistic.
And the thing about it is, is men, we're creatures of action.
We're decisive.
We're cost-benefit calculators.
And so people think that if you're black pill, it's just going to lead to men doing nothing.
And that's not true.
Society still has to exist and we're never going to be able to squash that imperative that men have to do for others.
Remember, you always say it, Pearl, men are benevolent.
Women are not.
Right.
And so if you are black pill or nihilistic, all you're doing is just giving men the proper knowledge to be able to make a good decision when they decide to do something.
See, women think that men are going to react to reality and the truth like they would.
A lot of women use reality as an excuse to not do something or to not act or to bitch and moan and complain.
But men are the opposite.
Men are going to act regardless.
So being quote unquote black pill nihilistic on the men's side, it's not a bad thing.
It's not.
Example, we can tell us red pillars, we can tell all the men all day long, don't get married.
And in my lifetime, the majority of men are still going to get married.
We can tell them all we want, don't have children, because they're going to get taken away from you in divorce court attorney court.
And the majority of men are still going to have children.
But with people like yourself, Pearl, you're just letting them know if you make a decision, this is where you're going to end up.
And there's going to be a lot more men who are going to be ready for when it happens.
Example, like you said, if you get married with your first wife, don't buy a house with your first wife, guys.
Don't do it.
Maybe your second one, but not your first one, because odds are in seven years, she's going to divorce you and try to take it from you.
So just rent.
You know what I'm saying?
You can prepare yourself for this stuff.
Huh?
Put stuff in your mom's name or your dad's name.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But guys, men, we are creatures of action.
This nihilistic attitude, this black pill, it's not going to stop men from doing what's necessary for society to run and to be successful.
What do you think?
How about that?
Yeah, I think men are still, I mean, I do think you're going to see men drop out, but I mean, men, they still have to eat.
Yeah.
You know, they're still going to do the jobs, but I do think you're going to see like the quality decrease over time of just like I called this place.
I was on the phone and I asked them to like email me their address or like text me their address.
So I just, cause I was driving and they, it, I couldn't believe they were like, no, we can't do that.
I'm like, what do you mean you can't?
I don't know.
I've just noticed the customer service has like gone down so much over time.
Where I'm like 10, 15 years ago, like if you said jump, it would be like, how high?
And now I'm like, you can't even email me an address.
Well, the cough cough in 2020 really ruined things.
The customer service industry and the restaurant industry has not recovered from 2020.
And you see certain industries like nursing serving where you have people, especially women, who go into these customer service industries expecting not to deal with people or not having people skills.
Like, in fact, I may have to get a reaction ready for you, but there are these Gen X and millennial nurses saying that Gen Z nurses are crazy because they just want to become nurses to get the bag and for the prestige, but they don't want to see patients.
Your primary job is seeing patients.
What are you on TikTok complaining about seeing patients for?
It's crazy.
Yeah.
No, and you see that a lot.
Like the women.
So let's bring up callers.
Okay.
I'm going to bring in a couple of new people I haven't seen.
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Men are problem solvers.
Women are problem finders.
Did he figure out his audio?
No.
I can see him talking, but he doesn't have it to put together.
Hey, guys, please make sure that you don't have the YouTube running in the background when you unmute.
It really slows down the show.
So we really want to try to stop with that.
And even if you disagree with me, feel free to call in.
But please make sure your camera doesn't have to be on because we haven't had anybody troll or do anything that may change in the future.
But at this size, I think it's fine.
But yeah.
Haveed, are you there?
Have youed?
You're on mute.
Yes.
Hello.
Can you hear me?
There you are.
Hey, how's it going?
Good.
How are you?
I'm doing wonderful.
So what do you got for me?
Why should I have hope?
Well, I think that this is a consciousness problem for male consciousness to female consciousness.
And we're thinking about the type of women that we surround ourselves with versus the type of men we surround ourselves with.
So women these days don't want to get married.
Why?
Why did they want to get married 100 years ago versus today?
Because of what they want to achieve.
And I think the mentalities are mixed up.
I think through time of people starting to understand.
I think time's giving it people starting to understand through time that women will eventually come around and realize that they don't need to be independent and be like men.
I think it's switched around.
I don't know why women are trying to become men, and I don't know why men are trying to become women.
What's your timeline?
What's your timeline on them realizing this?
Well, between five to ten years, realistically.
Come on.
Do you think we're working on it?
I mean, I wish it would be sooner.
But realistically.
Do you think it's more likely that women will do sex work or become wives in the next five to ten years?
Well, you know what?
I started thinking about is men, how much they crave women.
I might make a little Bible reference.
Do you know in the Bible, it says that I'll make Eve, the Eve, and Adam and Eve, and I'll make your husband.
You have to lure over your husband, and women have to follow their husband and nonsense.
But in my point of view, all these men chase after women, and it's the guy that has an Adam apple stuck in her throat.
So what if it was backwards?
And that's why all these men are lowered over by these women, and they look at their bodies.
I'm like, oh my God, I'll do anything for this girl.
I'll do anything for that.
You know what else I started thinking about?
What happens when sex robots come out?
And they don't need a vagina.
I hate, I'm sorry for saying that.
Yeah, but women have to say that women have dildos.
Correct.
So I started also thinking about like, I don't have a vagina, but I have a rectum.
And I have a smaller penis.
I would say about four inches.
And I started feeling bad about it.
I was like, man, if I have a small penis, do women not like that?
Then I was thinking to myself, I have a rectum.
Let me just try putting a little finger in my butt.
I was like, oh my God, this is painful.
This hurts.
Yeah, buddy.
No, thanks.
Sorry, man.
Sorry, bro.
I had to cut that short.
I don't know what that guy was talking about.
He's talking about, no, man, we're not going to have that.
It's just not.
Sorry.
In fact, let me remove you.
Like, what are you?
Why would you tell me that?
Like, why would you tell me that you're putting your fingers up your butt?
Okay.
Yeah, sorry, guys.
That's not going to fly here.
Trolling will not be tolerated, guys.
Sorry.
Nope.
Okay, who are some other people?
Hey, sis, I'm going to hop on in about 15 to 20 minutes if you're still alive, and I will tell you why you should still have hope.
You know what?
Oh, no.
He's gone.
Glenn, whenever you come back, I'll bring you on, okay?
All right.
Vlosboy, are you there?
Flossboy.
Vlosboy, I can see you on your camera, but I can't hear you.
You guys got to get your sound figured out.
I think you maybe hit join, but you didn't hit join with computer audio.
So you might have to drop off and come back in.
Because I can see you.
You can test your audio before you get on stream, guys.
We really got to work on this as a chat because it kind of decreases the quality when we.
All right, I'm taking him out.
And then there's someone that says 813-727-8616.
I don't.
813-817.
I don't read.
It might be a phone number.
Okay.
Sorry.
Well.
who else uh next up we have esta baban Hey, what's going on, man?
Hey, Estevon, how are you?
I can't complain how you guys have been.
Hey, Doug, MP, I need to get your email, man.
There's some things I really want to talk with you about.
And I know we've been playing cat and mouse, but I really need your email, brother.
Yeah, you could do Doug at the Audacity Network.
Can we do that a different time?
Sure, sure, sure.
Yeah, yeah.
I would just say, yeah, yeah.
So, why should I have hope?
Well, I'm going to sound very contradictory here because I'm going to, quote unquote, be talking out of both sides of my mouth.
Okay.
But please, like two minutes or less, all right?
Okay, well, you, as a fit feminine, come from a stable nuclear two-parent family home.
That's not a thought or a 304, more than likely doesn't have a high body count.
You should have hope as a woman, as a white woman, too.
So, you as an individual and women that fit at least some, if not all, of the things that I just mentioned about you, should have hope because you have your options, right?
But I'm talking about for society.
Okay.
Well, that's why I said women that fit the same or have some of the same descriptors that I just mentioned with you, they should also have hope.
The problem is the reason now, the reason why you shouldn't have hope is because women with your descriptors are being led astray or having bad influence, you know, on what this, because society is turning darker by the minute.
And it's, it's women that have the descriptors that I just mentioned for you that have the choices that should have hope they don't.
And that's because, you know, they're under the influence, call it social media.
I just think it's just wicked, evil, and demonic.
That's just that's just me personally.
Because there should be hope, but I realize that there's not.
And so I just think, you know, you had mentioned something earlier about, you know, marriage is going to be less and women are going to do more sex work.
I actually disagree.
I think marriage is still going to relatively stay the same, but it's not going to be love.
And there's probably going to be a lot of loveless, not probably, I think there's going to be a lot of loveless, sexless, non-committed, non-faithful marriages.
That's just what I think is going to happen.
I don't necessarily think marriage is going to go away because men are going to want to, because men still believe that having a functional society, even non-trad or even non-religious/slash faith-based men and women still believe that having a functional society, at least mostly men.
Do you think the marriage rate's going to go up or down?
I think it's going to stay about the same.
Okay.
Do you think the age of first marriage is going to go up or down?
I think that will slightly increase, yes.
Do you think people will have more kids?
No.
And that's been on a downward trend for a while.
So you think it'll keep going down For certain demographics, yes.
Do you think that the establishment, do you think that the government is going to take any of the legal advantages and power that women have over men away?
I think, no, they're not.
There will be.
So, what's this hope thing that you're talking about?
Because at least men are speaking up.
And people like Pearl are, you know, and few and far between, even some women are speaking up.
So, at least the issues are being brought to light.
I'm just saying that's better than nothing.
But you don't see it equating to policy change.
Not as fast or as concrete.
There may be some things here or there.
Yeah.
But nothing with real teeth in the long run.
No.
I think there might be a few kind of throw them a bone kind of things here and there, but nothing that has real teeth that's going to bring about real solid change.
I don't think there will be mandatory DNA testing.
I don't think that there will be the end of no-fault divorce.
I don't think that there will ultimately be real punishment for what is essentially per, you know, when women falsely accuse men of crime they didn't commit.
We already have books on the law.
It's called perjury.
It's just that nobody wants to actually enforce it.
Okay, so you're kind of making my case for not having hope.
Like I said, I'm going to sound contradictory.
Like I said, at least these issues are being brought up.
So that's why there's a sliver of hope.
Okay.
These issues were not even spoken about.
So even speaking about them, again, I'm not saying get your hopes up too high.
I don't think we should, but I'm saying this is better than this is better than zero.
Yeah.
And so the fact that they're even being spoken about, at least will be getting some attention.
Now, I'll just say this and then I'll land my plane.
Gotta land.
I think that this community gets a bad rap with the whole red pill, black pill, what have you, because it just looks like angry men.
Okay.
And even when that's not the case, even when we're speaking logic and facts, it just looks like it's just a bunch.
I meant they label us incels.
And I'm sure you're aware of that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you very much for calling in.
Calling anytime.
Okay.
Have a good one.
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Kiana, you're up next.
Kiana, you're on mute.
Kiana?
Can you hear me?
Yes, we can.
Hi, thanks for having me.
Hi, Pearl.
Hey, how's it going?
Great.
How are you?
Good.
You sound Midwest.
Am I right?
I'm not even close.
I did spend just recently a week in the Midwest, but I'm from Nevada.
Oh, God.
All right.
So what do you think?
Why should I have hope?
Why should you have hope?
I mean, it's clear that you have a level of hope because you're having these discussions with the public.
And so that means that you're hoping that either you can discuss these things with people who are like-minded or maybe lead other people to feel differently about the modern times.
And so it's important to have hope because if you live in a fear state of mind or in a doomed state of mind, you more than likely won't do anything because you feel like it's you're damned to whatever that situation might be.
So we have to continue to have hope and do what we can when we can.
If we can do something, then we should.
And if it's as you know, big or small as having conversations with others and hope that maybe you can, you know, maybe change something or let other people see another perspective, or you know, that might be the only perspective they have.
You have the opportunity to even just open the door for them.
So having hope is, I feel, is really important.
How effective do you think conversations are at changing trends?
So changing trend, the thing is with that, is that you have to have the conversation with a lot of people a lot of times.
And I think that's why podcasts like yours and the whatever podcasts and these different podcasts get so much traction with people and get them to at least come in and listen.
And then whatever's intended for that person to have that moment with, they may or may not.
They might see it and be like, that's silly at first.
But then maybe if they listen to things and different types of conversations with different people, something might click with them.
Right.
But how do we, how do we, how do we measure that?
What stat are we going to say this podcasting changed that stat?
I mean, it's clear that obviously social media has in general changed things.
And that's people having micro conversations and associating with each other, maybe in not such long format, but you can tell it's different, definitely affecting, just like you know, 304 culture, the tidbits of it that people see on social media definitely affect people.
So I think long format.
How so when 1.4 million women between 18 to 25 are on OnlyFans?
How is that?
What I was saying convinced that what I was saying with that, that even though that's a negative, I'm saying that clearly that's affected people because it's normalized in a sense.
Now, if we made it the commonality that we're speaking about traditional families and we put a higher level of shame on those things on average, it would probably be the opposite.
But now we've come into a culture where if you say something, then that's you judging that person.
And who are you to judge that person if you're not God?
It's more so we just have a standard.
That's like being mad at someone for having a standard for something when you know the standard is for generally the betterment of everyone.
You can't control everyone, but you definitely can.
If that's the norm, as we've seen in the past, that was more of the norm.
That was not how it is now.
That most people tended to lean towards that.
They may not totally immerse themselves in a traditional view, but they have a lot of things that would be rooted in it.
And I think that's the problem: so much of the media that's out there is open and proud of those things.
Yeah, so I disagree.
I think it's a cop-out to say it's like women being influenced by things.
I think women are doing what they want to do.
They got that perspective from somewhere.
And I could tell you this because I've actually done this, I've done the long conversations with women.
I've done the sit-downs.
I've interviewed a thousand.
And there were women I would take back like after the show.
And I would think, oh, the wheels are turning with this girl.
Me sit down and explain this stuff.
And I'll, and I would do really long one-on-one conversations.
It's actually what blew my channel up.
And they did the same thing.
There's one girl that fucked a balancer right after.
And also, I'm going to push back about something that you said earlier, Kenny.
You said that if there's something that can be done, it should be done.
Like, you say, if there's something that can be done, do it.
And that's the big because I always say nothing is more important to modern women than their own selfish desires, not their kids, not family, not country, not God, anything.
Right.
And modern women, they're staring in the face what they should do to make things better, but they're not doing it.
And you can't make them do it.
You can't.
That's understandable.
It's not about making them do it.
And see that maybe I portrayed that as like it's our job to make them do it, but it's just kind of like, I know a lot of people aren't Christians and don't believe in God and things like that.
But you plant the seed.
You might not even be, if something were to happen to you, you may not even be able to see the seed come grow to fully and become have fruits.
But at the end of the day, you planted the seed and it might take a bunch of other situations that go along with that seed to make that situation happen.
It's not about us making anybody do anything.
It's about us planting that seed and hoping that on their journey, they'll come into other things that will help that grow.
Because you can't make them stop wanting to do OnlyFans.
You can't.
They have to figure that out with how they process things.
People pick the seeds they want.
Sure.
That's how women get to get out of it.
That's how women keep fooling you guys with the OnlyFans hose being Christian speakers.
Because they like.
Well, they shouldn't be doing that anyway.
If you're saying like Nala, she shouldn't be doing that anyway.
She hasn't even lived the lifestyle to truly know whether or not she should have.
Wait, wait.
So I think people pick the seeds they want to pick.
So I don't think it's like, I think if somebody wants to lose weight, then they'll go out and find the influencer, the information that'll help them lose weight because they're serious about it.
I am not in control of the trends.
And I can have hope for my future, but I don't see any evidence that the media and these conversations are doing any of the things you say.
Like, I don't see any evidence they're planting any seeds because the birth rate's going down, the marriage rate's going down, the age of first marriage is going up.
There's no data or even trend, like trends that indicate that's the way it's going.
Well, you can still, I mean, I mean, I've been watching you for a very, very long time.
I don't know how long you've been doing this in total, but I'm sure that there are plenty people in the chat right now who at maybe at the beginning of listening to you had completely different views on certain topics.
And because you've talked through them and had the shows that you've had, can align more now than they might have done in the beginning.
And sometimes in your lifetime, you don't get to see the fruits of that labor.
Do you understand what I'm saying?
So I understand how I understand how you would think that.
But do okay, I'll give you an example.
Do you know when the first men's rights group started?
I don't, but I would love to.
1900 years ago.
Okay.
So how has that gone?
Yeah, exactly.
And yeah, and pros changing perspectives and enlightening people.
That doesn't enlightening someone doesn't always have to involve giving them hope.
I think that's kind of what you're conflating.
Understand what I'm saying?
Like, you, Pearl has changed perspectives and she's given people essential knowledge, but like you don't have to be hopeful when you get new knowledge.
You just have to be able to make a better decision.
So I wouldn't just automatically associate new knowledge with hope.
And I think that's one of the mistakes that you're making.
It may not essentially be providing them with hope, but it's just like when someone goes to, is there certain words we can't use?
Like the pris, like, can we say that?
I know so many platforms are worried about prison.
Not corn, if that's what you're saying.
No, Like pris, like when people go get sent to become felons, I'll say that.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You can say you can say prison.
Okay, so it's like when someone goes to prison and then they get out of prison and they change their lives around and they start mentoring others and they have conversations with them and they show them their actions.
That gives them hope that even though I lived this life, I have a chance.
And even though they might not make every single choice the proper way, they still feel like they have hope towards something better.
And that at least will give them a little bit of momentum to progress further.
And maybe when they do finally progress further, because they genuinely feel like they have options, they will teach someone else.
And the next person will just go.
I don't know what the prisoner has to do with the society-wide example.
So again, I'm not talking about it.
Let me finish.
Let me finish.
I'm not talking about my individual life.
I'm not even talking about individual listeners.
But I do not have the power to change trends.
I don't.
And no, and any YouTuber that's selling you that, they're selling you guys hope.
And I'm the one that's being honest.
And you don't know, unless you're a YouTuber or work in the industry, you don't know.
You have no idea.
And I've been in the field.
I've interviewed the people and I'm telling you, YouTubers do not, if you want to rely on what changes policy is money.
And women have 80% of it.
So there's no incentive for any of the policies to change or the decision-making to change.
And also, I'm going to talk about your prison example.
I did an internship in undergrad where I would speak to young men that were in juvenile hall.
And the starting point wasn't, oh, you're going to be a doctor or a lawyer one day.
It's going to be, how about you not come back here?
How about that?
Incarceration should be a successful deterrent from you committing other crimes.
Don't come back here.
It's a starting point.
When you have people that come from certain backgrounds or make certain choices, one of the worst things you can do, I think, is try to tell them that, oh, you're going to be a doctor one day.
No, you're not.
You don't have to be telling them they're going to be a doctor.
You can just tell them that they have options never other than committing crimes and going back to prison.
It doesn't need to be like you're going to be the president.
The option is you don't want to be back in here.
But why do they feel morally motivated just not to go back to prison, especially if they've gone multiple times?
That might become a norm to them.
More than anything, wouldn't you say that it's like if you embedded in them morally that that's not the person that they want to be, then they have a moral grounding for why they shouldn't go back to prison rather than you just don't want to be here.
No, it's because that's not the person I want to be.
Because I have those morals to stay away from a place like this, I'll find better.
So I have the hope, not because you sold me the hope, but because you told me the reality that there's a possibility for me to do better.
Do you know what the best predictor of future behavior is?
His past.
Yeah.
So I even think having any hope for these criminals is like, I've dealt with people with addiction, with whatever.
Oh my God, if you have any hope for them, oh, I had a cousin that was in and out of jail all the time.
If we had hoped that he wouldn't come back, it would have destroyed us.
Oh, my God, no.
And also, also, also, once again, it's about steps.
You got to talk to these, you got to talk to people where they're at.
Okay.
And therefore, I would say I would make them realize what they did to get in here and help them figure out steps as to how they're not going to end up in here again.
Because being in prison is stupid.
Your whole life is going to go by and you're going to be in this box.
A person who doesn't value their life, why would they care about that?
Why would they care about being a doctor?
But that's what I'm saying.
You don't say, hey, you made it out of prison.
Guess what?
You can become a doctor.
It's not like that.
It's more so like they need to have something morally grounded and a value for their own life.
So just telling them, like, it's stupid for you to want to come back here because you're going to spend your life here.
If they don't value themselves enough to care about going there in the first place, like the average person, you don't need to go to prison to know you don't want to be there.
Oh, you'd be surprised.
Have you ever spoken to a criminal before?
I have.
I have.
How many have you spoken to?
Oh, because I don't think you've talked to many.
You sound a little too optimistic to have that conversation.
No, no, no, no.
I'm laughing.
I'm laughing because I do a lot of talks with people on TikTok too.
Not definitely not as many as TikTok.
Okay.
Because, of course, a lot of criminals would probably be there, you know, wasting their time or doing whatever they're doing.
Not on doing TikTok, but like real life conversations, interacting with them.
Yeah, I have.
Someone that I know, that I've known for 15 years, they had a very, very difficult life.
And watching them and their partner, their partner who really struggles to live a different life.
And this person who's chosen to live their life completely different and stick with it and is now just kind of struggling to reintegrate into another level of reintegration.
Them, yes, I've seen their path.
I've asked them a lot of questions about it.
Because when I was younger, I used to be like, why would you even do something like that?
That would put you in jail.
That's stupid.
But if you don't value your own life, you're kind of like, you don't care.
You're at the wheel of the car, just driving insane because you don't care.
Your answers, I'd like to believe you, but I'm a little skeptical based on your answers.
And Pearl, I would love you to, I'd love for you to speak to this person if you'd like to.
I could ask them at some point.
I don't, I don't care.
I don't.
I know you don't care, Pearl.
I don't.
But I'm just saying, like, hope is not a bad thing.
I don't think selling hope is necessarily a good thing.
Like, you shouldn't be marketing like hope in that way.
But it definitely is like if you're honest about things and you have conversations with people, it may not get every single person, but the ones you can get, it matters.
Yeah, but I still would say that you're not discounting my original point, which is society, the trend of society.
It's like you keep bringing up individuals.
Yeah.
And also, Pearl's audience is men.
And one of the biggest differences between Pearl's viewpoint and yours, Kiana, is you sound like you talk to a lot of women.
No.
And you have that female optimistic.
Men can't afford to live life how you're talking.
We just can't do it.
Like, that'll lead a man.
The type of hope that you want there to be had led men to get their children taken away from them.
So we just can't have that all.
I'm not talking about delusion.
It could be a small goal.
If a person comes out of prison and they are, you said on a macro scale.
Okay, I'm sorry.
I can't.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I was just thinking that type of nagging is what drives men to suicide.
Call another time, Kiana.
But it's been like 15 minutes of this hope strategy that you're talking about.
Go to your TikTok followers.
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It's, I just find it annoying.
Um, so I'm just gonna, I'm gonna give you guys one warning and then we're just gonna kick you.
So yeah, go ahead.
That was the first person I had to boot ass out of my head.
Sorry.
Okay, so we're gonna bring up.
Shiv, what's up, buddy?
What's up?
Hey, Shiv.
So why should I have hope?
Tell me.
Well, you know, there's going to be all these like AI, you know, boyfriends out there.
And there's going to be, you're going to just be able to talk to a computer.
It'll be all of our relationships.
It'll all be digital.
And a computer is not going to, you know, screw up.
So yeah, I just.
ChatGPT can be our boyfriends.
Just, you know, accept our robot AI overlords and life will be great.
Sure.
What?
But I mean, the truth is outside of that.
Like, honestly, that's the only thing I think there's hope for.
I don't think there's hope in normal human relationships.
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Yep.
Yep.
Well, yeah, but that's really it.
It's, it's, I mean, the craziest thing, too, is I was talking to, like, so I don't know if you know this, but when people get to their second or third divorce, the numbers keep going higher at divorce rate.
So it's like, that's kind of crazy to me that like people get married, get married again, get married again.
And like the third marriage, it's like 74% of the divorce rate on the third marriage.
And people still do it.
It's kind of a, it's kind of a miracle.
Men are the true romantics, really.
No, we just, we're the ones that have hope.
I don't know why, but we do.
It's kind of, it's kind of crazy.
We're just so positive no matter everything being against us.
It's kind of, it's kind of mad.
And there's ways that you can thrive.
Like you can max out your hinge profile and bang some baddies this month.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's ways.
Go ahead.
I had a let's just say this.
I was in Vegas for the last three days.
And yeah, it was, it was great.
You know, new, I had a new wife every day.
It's good to see.
Yeah, why have one wife when you could have a rotation?
You know, that's what I'm saying.
And this is the, you know, it doesn't mean you have to be sorrow and like cry about it.
It just means you got to manage your expectations.
like shiv if you get married tomorrow you can expect to be a single dad in your 40s that'll be fun for you but then i'll have my entire rest of my life after that point so sounds great yeah well shiv has a a chunk card i told you he he has a whole different culture that he could ship one in from and and probably get a solid five to seven maybe ten years right Yeah, yeah.
And look, if I have to import my wife, I'll pay the Trump tariffs on it.
You know, it's not, it doesn't mean you got to be nihilistic.
You just got it.
You just got to expect, like, if you get 10 years, that's pretty good.
As long as she was a good wife for 10 years.
Well, 10 years.
In this world, think about like the iPhone's only like 15 years old.
So like 10 years is a long time.
Like we didn't have smartphones, like touchscreen smartphones like 12 years ago.
You know what I mean?
So if I can get 10 years, that's kind of like an eternity if you think about it.
Yeah.
Yeah, true.
Yeah.
And if you're a woman, like, and you're like, oh no, I'm going to be a single mother, just be like, well, there's always a simp.
Don't worry.
There is always a simp.
Always.
So don't never fear.
The simps are here.
Yeah.
There's, there's simps and there's plastic surgery.
So those two things are a great combo.
Daniel, that means they're the problem.
Yeah, for sure.
I love how one of the comments here is like, why would I go on Hinge when there's a blonde that's free on the internet?
I'm like, what?
No, Hinge is where they're all at, bro.
You can also get a list crawler.
Yeah.
Where's Luffy when you need them?
Yeah, DM on a get on Instagram and DM her a price.
Say a hundred bucks.
See if she bites.
This is called adapting to the current society.
This is how it is out here on these streets.
It's kind of crazy to think about that, though.
Like it's cheaper to go on list crawler than like traditional dating a lot of the times.
So all men pay.
CGA says.
Yep.
There you have it.
All right.
We got a, we literally got like 15 callers waiting.
Cool.
Yeah.
I'll go.
You can move on for me.
I just want to say hi.
Hi, buddy.
Always good talking to you.
Yep.
Thanks for coming.
All right.
I told Glenn I bring him up next.
Glenn's coming, but we got to keep it short because we got literally like, I think there's 20 people in here.
I knew this would be a hot one.
Glenn, what's up, buddy?
Yo, what's good, you guys?
How you doing?
Hey, Glenn, how are you?
I'm doing good.
I just got back from Florida.
Well, what's going on?
Why should I have hope?
Okay, you should have hope, but not for a good reason.
It's because it's going to be a consequence.
All right.
You know how history repeats itself?
Yeah.
Well, history is repeating itself.
All right.
And I'm going to come at it from more of like a biblical angle.
All right.
I know, I know.
You don't like it.
Yeah.
Cool.
Anyways, I got it for you, though.
All right.
So in Isaiah 3, there was some shit going on.
Women were hoes.
It says that they were being haughty, right?
And with their outstretched necks with jewelry all on it and their, you know, nappy-headed weaves and shit.
And they were jangling their, you know, their shit around with some jewelry hanging from the ears to the nose to the nipples to their ankles.
They were, they were just, they were being thoughts.
They were being the modern day thought.
All right.
And see, what happened was, it said, because your women are your rulers, right?
And they rule over you, right?
All these bad shit was about to happen.
Okay.
What happened?
All their good men died.
So all the warriors died.
The women ended up getting bald-headed and having like scabies.
They all look like Jada Pickett Smith, like a dirty tennis ball.
They stunk.
Right.
They got taken over by other kingdoms.
And it says, you know, Isaiah 4-1, it said at that time, seven women will go to one man and beg them just to take their name and they will feed themselves.
They will clothe themselves just as long as they hide them from their shame.
They can take away their shame.
So basically, these hoes, what's going to happen is they're going to ruin society to the point where, you know, society is not going to be able to sustain itself.
We're going to end up going to war because some dumb hoe president is going to send us troops out there to die.
And then, you know, all the good men are going to die off.
And then the men that are left over are these women are going to be like, yo, please take us as your wife.
Please, please wipe us out.
Can I get a timeline for that, Glenn?
Like, when can I expect that?
When do I think that's going to happen?
Yeah.
Oh, we're going to be dead and gone before that shit.
Like, our children's children may see that.
But history does repeat itself if we don't learn from our mistakes.
Your kids aren't going to have kids.
Well, I mean, statistically, some of us might.
I mean, you know, those that got good-looking kids, that got them good genes, you know, those children might reproduce.
Yeah, you're right.
Now, if you got like an ugly kid, not happening.
Not happening.
And so there is hope.
What's going to be the hope is that the fact that it's going to get to the point where it's going to be so bad that it's going to destroy itself.
And it's going to, the women are going to have to go to the men and say, please take us.
Forgive us of our shame.
You know, we'll feed ourselves, we'll clothe ourselves, just take the shame of being an independent hoe away from us and make us a married woman.
Right.
And that's going to be the reset.
There needs to be a reset button.
And it's going to take where society is destroyed to where we end up having that reset button.
So don't you agree for our lifetime, there's no hope.
Oh, yeah.
Like for our lifetime, we may not see the change.
We may not see the change in our lifetime.
And here's the thing: there's going to be like what, over 30% or even more women without kids.
Yeah, so you get a lot of hoes to choose from, guys.
Hoes are going to be hoes.
And here's the thing.
The generations that are watching them, they're going to watch them suffer.
They're going to watch them, you know, not receive or achieve, you know, the desired life that they wanted.
And that will be the recourse for the younger generations, be like, you know what?
Being like Bomby Blue is not going to really work out because it doesn't end really well for her.
I don't think so.
I think it'll just inspire more.
But there's always going to be a subcategory of women.
They're going to be like, yeah, that sounds like great.
Let me go try to get 10,001 dicks.
But I think there's also going to be the majority is going to be like, maybe not a good idea.
But, you know, guys, we can't complain.
I've seen zero evidence of that happening in my lifetime.
See, here's the thing is we can't complain.
I don't know why any guys are complaining right now.
We have the women that we created.
Really?
Do you know how many girls I told that sweet nothings to like?
Oh, girl, your body count ain't gonna matter.
I'm just gonna, you know, we go pray and ask Jesus to forgive us later.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, do you know how many times that worked?
Yeah, but like, most guys don't get to do that.
You'd be surprised what most guys will say to trying to get some ass.
No, most guys don't even get the chance to say that to him, Glenn.
Well, back in our day, okay, back in our day, it worked.
So that's why I'm saying we have the women that we created.
The previous generations of men contributed or I don't think so.
I think women created themselves.
No, they do, but men encourage it.
Look, you don't think guys were asking women to get some ass back in the day?
Like, we were always trying to get some ass back in the day.
We weren't trying to wipe them up.
We were trying to one-night them.
Yeah, but there were guys, there were guys that wanted to wipe them up, and the women just don't pick them.
Yeah, because remember, those are those guys met in college or at work until like the 2000s.
I think it was like 2005, 2006 when that changed.
But how many of them were okay?
This is kind of going off topic, anyways.
I really just want to stick to in our lifetime, is there any hope?
Oh, in our lifetime, no, we will not see any changes.
And you know what?
Yes, you agree.
In any type of great recourse or change in society, most people do not see that in their lifetime.
Yeah, so I can just think it'll happen when I die.
Okay, thanks, Glenn.
Call in any time, okay?
Okay.
All right.
I'm going to try.
Man, we have a lot of people.
God, okay.
I'm going to try this random person.
It says calling user two.
All right, guys.
We got a lot of callers.
Wait, who calling user two?
Can you hear me?
Yeah, I can hear you.
What do we call you?
You can just call me 27.
That's what I put to you as a user.
So, what do you think?
Why should I have hope?
Well, if we were to, well, you particularly, Pearl, I think it's a little bit different for you because you are a woman.
And, you know, as a man, we all know we're born without value, especially me when I started, you know, my early 20s.
It was incredibly difficult to get laid.
And as I grew my career and in my path and journey, uh, are you there?
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Hi, Chris.
So what do you think of the topic?
Why should I have hope?
So, while I was waiting, and you were talking to all those other hopeful souls, which to be honest, kind of sapped what was left of mine.
Honestly, I think about listening to these people, it's like this is why we're in the place that we're at.
People are so pathetic.
And it's harsh, but I mean, we live in a harsh world, right?
Like, the fact is, you said it while I was waiting, and it reminded me of a quote that I really like.
And the quote goes, never overestimate your ability to change the world.
Never underestimate your ability to change yourself.
So, I think that I have no hope in society, to be honest with you, but I do have hope in myself.
Like, I can see the light in small positives.
And I don't live a depressed life, but I think I would if I actually wanted something good out of society or expected anything good out of anything but myself and like the small circle of people around me.
Yeah, I agree.
I think the cool thing is with the internet, you can improve a lot of things, you can find answers to stuff, and you can make your life pretty cool.
But when you're going to women, you know, I like when Jordan Peterson, they asked him, why do young people always, you know, grab onto these large issues like saving the environment or these or these idiots that are sitting in on Ivy League college campuses for what's going on in the sandbox over there?
And he said, It's because when you're young, you just don't have a lot of value and you can't do much.
So, they want to feel important by latching onto these large colleges, these large causes because dealing with their own insignificance is too much.
And I think that what's going on in society is that times a thousand.
I think one of the best things you can do is shorten your circle and focus on your issues, and that's it.
Right, yeah, and honestly, it's like I love this kind of content.
I also happen to love women, they're great to look at, and they become more and more entertaining all the time.
Uh, I, I, I think that women are definitely cooked as far as taking them seriously.
Uh, the decisions that they make, even so early on, they put themselves in a position where they're no good to a man long term.
Uh, they don't even realize it, and by the time any of them actually do, it's like so beyond repair.
Plus, they probably already started damaging another generation at that point.
So, like, I'd say we're multiple generations away from any real change.
I would not be hopeful that that would be happening in my lifetime.
But again, I'm still enjoying like watching everything burn.
And, like, I mean, as a near-middle-aged man, like, it's never been so easy to get sets.
I look a little bit younger than my actual age.
And yeah, I mean, there are times when you'll meet somebody and you'll think, wow, she seems nicer, nicer than a lot of the women you meet.
But it literally only takes a couple of meetings to figure out how she has also kind of fallen into some of the BS that we have going on over here.
Yep.
Yep.
All right.
All right, Chris.
Well, thank you for calling in, buddy.
We have full call lines going on.
That's pretty funny.
So thank you.
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Hey, can you hear me?
Hey, how are you?
I'm doing well, thank you.
How about yourself?
I'm good.
So tell me, why should I have hope for society?
So I think your hope for society is going to honestly be placed in doing what you're already doing.
You're already on the right path to go ahead and bring things up.
Just making it known that repetitive communication is going to be what is ultimately going to start to, I don't want to say radicalize, but just make people more aware of how things are.
I predict it'll start to change.
Nothing dramatic enough, but within five to ten, and then probably about 20 years out is when we'll see the full shift of people wanting to get back to being more altruistic for society and their communities.
What specific stat are we going to see change?
Like, is it the birth rate, the marriage rate?
And let's talk about women.
Because like I said before earlier, women know what they ought to be doing to change things, but they're choosing to not do it.
Go ahead.
Right, right.
So with women, they do have a tendency to follow as men create their own spaces.
So I would say we're going to start the stat we're going to see is most likely in a faith-based type of like currently you can kind of see little echoes of things of people saying that they're going to Orthodox churches or more Catholic type things.
And that's where we're going to start to kind of see that pivotal point in the five to ten is there's just going to start to be more pockets of that starting to show.
Receivance has declined in the last decade.
True, there has definitely been a lot.
Like when we're talking about like Protestant stuff, a lot of people are leaving that in droves, but you're starting to see, I think it was like Gen Z and Alpha start to become more Orthodox.
Rescendance in the U.S. has generally declined with a noticeable drop in the post-pandemic period.
Also declined.
And then also 35% to 33% over the past two decades, according to 2024 Gallup poll.
You're starting to see Muslim Islamic feminists, bro.
It's just a matter of every, in the next 20, 30 years, every religious institution is going to have feminism.
Well, you have to do it.
Every single one of them, except the Amish.
Women make up 80% of consumer buying decisions.
True.
How will the churches keep the lights on without pandering to the female dollar?
Wow.
I think that's part of where it's going to be the men are going to be a little bit more radicalized in that after the 10-year mark.
Like there's going to just be pockets of men that are like, this is bullshit.
Sorry.
Yeah.
Like I think it'll be.
A new survey says for every 100 new Catholics, 800 people leave the church.
Sorry, go ahead.
No, no, you're, I do believe that a lot of people are seeing the, like you talked about, the feminism reach into the church at this point, and that's kind of what's pushing a lot of people out.
But there are still currently smaller pockets of people starting to become more like orthodox.
And I've even seen some people talk about it in the sense of Catholicism.
But I do believe that it's like I'm 40.
I'm not going to see this until I'm like 60 to 65.
And I don't have hope for myself in the sense of like being able to have more children because three kids, but at the same time, like more.
I've kind of tapped out.
My role with the community that I help out with is to try and help men find some objective moralities versus just the subjective morality type stuff.
And I think that's kind of where we're at with a lot of things is we see a lot of like subject morality, you know, out there.
That's kind of what feminism is a lot about.
And as we start to get people to start realizing like there is some objective morality and truth about how we maintain and do things, we're going to probably see some change after like some true change after the five to ten.
For now, it's just growing is the way I see it.
Yeah.
Thanks for giving your opinion.
I do respectfully disagree.
I just, I don't think trends happen overnight.
And I think if that was going to happen, we would see some indication like church attendance going up, which it's not.
People getting more religious, which they're not.
I understand the influencers make you want to like think that.
But I'm telling you, if you got Gen Z like siblings, kids, they're not going to church.
True.
I can understand that.
Like it, it, I think it's going to be on the individuals to help bring that about.
I think it's still too small from where I'm going with it.
But yeah.
Well, thanks for calling in.
Doug MP, you got any other questions for him?
No, you know, that, you know, I know you're hopeful.
A lot of the trad cons are, but you really got to look around, man.
You got to look around.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm doing my best to genuinely try and stay positive for hopefully my kids' sake, but I don't know.
You can just, but you can be positive and be like, we're fucked, you know.
Yeah.
And if you're just talking about the people you care about and your kids, that's fine.
Just make sure to put all your focus on them because Pearl never said not to be hopeful for yourself and those, you know, your circle, but this trying to save society stuff, it's cooked.
It's over with.
Sure.
Based.
Based.
Kelly, Kyle.
Thanks for watching.
I just want to let you guys know that I'm a moderator for Homath.
He would like to talk to you guys at some point if you ever get a chance.
Oh, sure.
He could come on.
I love stuff.
So I think he follows me on Twitter.
So if he DMs me, we could set up a time.
I'll let him know.
It's seven to nine.
So if he just tells me the day he wants to come, it's fine.
Understand.
That'd be awesome.
Cool.
Good talking to you.
Thanks for calling in.
Kilo Kyle.
$100.
You guys are too kind.
I forgot what those looked like.
That's a long.
That's a long.
Okay.
57-year-old engineer.
Trust me, there's hope.
Stay safe.
As a 57-year-old engineer, trust me, there's no hope.
Stay single.
Thank you, Pearl.
Greatest show as usual.
Thanks for what you do.
Thank you, Sean.
I'm just trying to be honest here about what it's going on.
Okay.
I'm going to bring in Donnie because he always keeps it nice and short.
Donnie, are you there?
Donnie, you're on mute.
He's waiting since the beginning, so maybe he went to go do something.
Sorry about that.
I'm right here.
Hey, hey, Donnie, how are you?
Oh, swell.
Almost had time to write a book with my thoughts waiting online.
I'll get to it.
And I'm mixed.
I feel you, Pearl, because a lot of what you've heard from the Trad Cons is basically just world fallacy, survivorship bias.
It worked for me, it'll work for them, and that's just not realistic.
Though, my counter is data and demographics isn't always destiny.
It's hard for me to find any hard data specific to women, but let's take Malthus, Thomas Malthus, for example.
I'll be quick, but if you don't know who that is, think of like Thanos and Endgame now.
He wanted to correct things.
That's just population control narrative from Malthus because he thought food production only grows with human hands.
Humanity will eventually starve.
But then the Industrial Revolution happened in 1800.
Now we got fat bitches on every corner.
I mean, you could be poor today and be fat as hell.
Like, being fat used to be a rich person thing, but now it's like you got to work just to not get fat.
Completely unfathomable.
Another thing is, I mean, look at our look at society before the 1950s.
Life expectancy was basically: you might be lucky to live to 30, most of you will be dead.
And the reason they had more people was they didn't know who would make it, so they had to have more kids.
But today it's the opposite.
Even unhealthy people can probably make it to 60 by dumb luck.
And people have less kids.
Okay, but I really wanted to say, I don't know, you might have heard that Charles Dickens quote: it was the best of times, it was the worst of times, which is kind of ubiquitous.
I mean, some people have said only one in 20, up to one in four men, got to break.
Even with male loneliness as it is, at least 60% of men are still getting a chance to at least try.
So, as crappy as today is, it's still better than the norm of yesteryear.
And I don't mean broad, you know.
Well, the but the you know, the life expectancy was influenced by the birth rate, like people lived till their 60s, 70s, and 80s all the time.
It was just the it was because the they killed their kids.
Well, no, I'm going off average because well, yeah, the infant, but but like it's kind of the same, it's kind of the same today because, like, if you're in the womb, like there's a one in three chance your mom will kill you, but they don't count that as a part of the death rate now.
They don't even count women killing their children deliberately, but continue.
I'm sorry, yeah, but I'm saying, like, so the mortality, like people lived till their 60s, 70s, and 80s before in the 1600s, 1700s, and 1800s.
But the thing were the outliers, like, I was talking about average, like, no, I know.
Wait, wait, wait, listen, wait, listen.
So, the reason it was so low is it's people didn't always make it out of infancy.
So, there was a death rate for babies and children.
I would argue the moms were killing them then because it's really similar to the abortion rate today.
But back then, it was like it was because newborns died a lot.
Well, I don't deny how common it is for moms to abuse their children, but that was more due to a lack of knowledge on medical care because you gotta remember, like, modern medicine didn't really exist until Lightsol is a thing.
Lack of medical care led to the quality of medicine.
No, no, no.
Like, the reason life expectancy went up was because of advancements in medicine.
Like, I had a history in medicine class in college.
The professor said before sanitation, you know, before disinfectant, you would be better off not going to a doctor than going to.
We're getting off topic.
The point is, I agree with you.
You should be black, Phil, but the black pill doesn't mean doomerous nihilism.
It just means acknowledging reality and acting accordingly.
Yeah, there's always a chance things can improve.
Like, I guess South Park gave me a glimpse of hope.
Their episode about people from the future, like how one day we're all be one mocha race that's bald-headed.
That's probably where we're going because in the future, most people will probably either be Amish or African since they have birth rates growing.
But even that can't share.
I don't have exact numbers, but I understand where you're going where you can't just have the just world fallacy or this blind hope things will work out.
But there is always a chance because, I mean, another example was nobody expected Hispanics to come out for Dumb Donald.
They went from being a never GOP group to now the left effed up so bad with Transformers and whatnot.
There's a serious chance Hispanics could be new base, but right.
But I see conservatives having small wins as preventing the like they're going to speed limit, they're not really changing shape.
Yeah, like, I mean, it slows it down, maybe, but I would still predict it's like the birth rate people aren't really going to get married.
It's just a different time, but I agree, like, that things in the past, there's other things that you could have worried about then that we don't have to worry about today.
Like, I don't want to be in a world war.
I'm happy we don't have to deal with that.
I like Uber E.
Well, war is part of human nature.
I mean, after World War II, everyone thought, well, we're never going to have a big war again.
It's like, I mean, thanks to nukes, it's been a deterrent to like the big wars.
But overall, we have we saw smaller-ish wars, but only Tom will tell.
I better wrap it up because there's other people in the line.
I know you want to keep the chat fair.
Cool.
But, oh, Doug, I got to give you kudos to that prison joke.
It's like, no, you're not.
That was fun.
I'm saying, but you have to tell them that they're going to be movie stars.
They have their name in lights.
Like, come on.
Are you serious?
Like, no.
And Pearl, I love the yellow.
You rock in the SpongeBob look.
So, so, yeah.
Everybody loves SpongeBob.
All right.
I'm going to split.
I got to go, guys.
Thanks for coming in.
I was just talking to you.
Okay.
i want to try chris again guys make sure you hit the like button subscribe if you haven't already Really appreciate it.
Chris, are you there?
Chris.
All right.
Chris going once.
Chris going twice.
Now I'm going to three times.
Now I have to.
It's the same Chris.
Oh, is it?
Okay.
Okay.
Sorry about that.
I already got you.
Okay.
Let's do This dark mage person.
Okay.
Dark Lake Mage.
Are you there?
Darkling.
Oh, hi.
Can you guys hear me?
Yep.
Oh, okay.
All right, great.
I made it.
Thank you so much, Pearl, and host for having me on the show.
I appreciate it.
I'm Dark Lake.
I'm falling in.
So let me have it.
Why should I have hope?
Okay, so, and I'm going to keep it real short and quick.
Yeah, I wanted to come up here because I think that you're not realizing something, Pearl.
And I guess you can add your two cents to what I'm going to say.
Because I think really the answer is in the question, right?
Why should you have hope in society?
And Pearl, you are referencing society because it's something beyond yourself, right?
Something that's not just about you, right?
I'm referencing society because that was the question.
Right, right.
But you understand, like, you're well informed of the negative statistics of the dating market.
So, like, you're basically referencing society because of that, right?
And my eyes, like, whatever.
Right, right.
I have them too.
And I mostly agree with, you know, the statistics that are projected, you know, about how bad it is.
But, you know, in that same thought process, right, if you juxtaposition that same thought process to hope itself, right?
You would do the same thing, right?
So you would essentially reference hope because it's beyond yourself, because it's not just all about you.
You feel me?
So, and what I mean by that is, right, even though you are well informed with the negative statistics of the dating market, if you had a son, right, I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't want him to give up, right?
You would want him to strategize, right?
To do his best to make it in society, in the dating market.
Yeah, but I would tell him to strategize.
I would not expect to find a wife.
That's what I would tell him.
I wouldn't expect to.
Right, but just even there, right?
You're saying that you wouldn't advise your son to expect to, but that's not the same as advising your son to give up.
And all I'm saying is that in order for you to instill the idea that your son in this theoretical scenario should strategize, there's a level of hope that comes with that.
And so that's what I meant.
But I just don't understand what that has to do with the question.
The question's about society, not this hypothetical son.
So it's like, why should I, are you seeing something I'm not seeing when it comes to the way society's going?
Well, I mean, I'm just basically considering history.
I'm considering like, you know, there's never been a time in, you know, society where people didn't have to strategize in order to, you know, maneuver a bad situation in society.
And you can extrapolate that in so many different ways.
And I'm not trying to be like pie in the sky, such an optimist, but I'm just saying that we're going to have to strategize no matter what the troubles are anyway.
And I'm correct.
But it's kind of like you could have a strategy to win the lottery, but it's probably not going to happen.
That's the way I see it.
Like statistics, it's just, you can do a strategy and give it your best go, but most people will be single parents.
Oh, and you're saying basically nowadays, having a wife and kids, right?
And, you know, nuclear family is akin to winning the lottery.
That's your point.
Yeah.
I mean, it's like 10% actually have like a marriage where they stay in shape, have sex, and are together for life and don't hate each other.
It's around 10%.
So, was there ever a time when like couples didn't hate each other, though?
Like, right?
But even if there was, we're never going to get back to that point.
Well, how do you know that, though?
Like, when you say, wait, wait, wait.
I'm sorry.
Let me qualify that.
When you say, well, we will never get back to that point.
Are you guys looking at like 100%?
Like, if you just break it down to percentages, are you looking at our case?
It's 100% or the majority.
And you, do you guys think that it's going to take a majority to change anything?
Like if, like if 20% of, I don't know, Americans decided to change things and, you know, have kids and stuff, do you think that could be enough to change anything?
Or do you think it has to be over 51%?
I think relationships.
I'm sorry, go ahead, Pearl.
Go ahead.
I think relationships are a subscription model.
Marriages don't really exist anymore.
You have subscriptions.
That's what it is.
Anybody that tells you otherwise is lying and trying to sell you hope.
That's what we have nowadays.
Go ahead.
And for me, I'm not, I can't worry about how many people are going to change when I don't think that they are.
What's the point of me, oh, 20, 30% when I don't think anyone's going to change?
Hmm.
You know what?
I can't refute that feeling you have because I have some, I kind of have the same feelings, but I also believe that, you know, what I do in my life personally, right, will affect the people in my immediate vicinity.
And to me, I think that's enough.
You guys might disagree, you know, and I understand if you do, but I mean, you guys don't think that, you know, Pearl meeting a husband and having kids and having that family and you, sir, meeting your wife and having kids and having that family, you guys are not going to make up the majority.
But I think your situation is statistically one of us will divorce.
I think most people become statistics.
So it's me or you, Doug.
Hey, hey, I've been divorced already.
So your chances are higher.
Yeah, 100%.
Wife number two.
Yeah, but you got married, though.
You did it though, still, though, right?
And then he's divorced.
Yep.
But so, like, what would crush someone is going into marriage and not preparing and expecting for a divorce?
That's how you get crushed.
I know.
I know it could happen to me.
It could.
I hope not, but it could.
I don't know.
And I guess, again, I'll leave it here because for other people to speak.
I'm not trying to, you know, bog you guys down with this.
But I just think that, Pearl, I understand your perspective.
I just think, you know, we've come too far as a people, no matter what your ethnic background is, to give up.
And maybe I'm naive, but that's just if I try to have a good marriage and you try to have a good marriage, but society's going the way it's going, like what's the difference?
Because you're not an idiot.
You know that not everyone believes in the BS of society and the propaganda and the misandry and whatever, right?
And the feminism, whatever.
Not every there's a lot of women who are like you who have your same thought process.
I don't care what people say.
I watch what they do.
And there's a lot of women that say they believe things and then they divorce their husbands.
Like, I've seen better women than me get divorced.
Women that are more pure, younger, nicer.
Like, I would just say more feminine, women that are better than me.
And I would say every conceivable metric, I've seen them do terrible things.
And the problem, the problem.
Oh, I'm sorry, just one thing.
The problem that I have with that thought process, Pearl, and I'm sorry, I don't mean to challenge you guys or be a nuisance or whatever.
No, no, please do.
Okay, the problem that I have with that thought process, Pearl, is that with that same thought process, by that logic, if you see me, a black man in the elevator, you need to clutch your purse.
Like with that same logic, because maybe you've seen some black dude basically, you know, steal a purse from a woman in an elevator.
Maybe you could have seen that, right?
That could be your actual experience.
But based on that, if I saw that happen, I'd probably start clutching my purse.
If that was a regular occurrence, why would I not?
Like, come on.
Yeah, but it would still be an elevation.
You're right.
But it would still be an elasticity.
I'm going to get my purse stolen because you can't tell the future.
I'm going to get my purse stolen because I don't want to seem racist.
Fuck that.
No.
That's not what I'm saying.
No, I'm not talking about not seeming racist.
I'm saying something that's illogical, right?
Because we can't tell the future.
And maybe I shouldn't have brought race in at my bed.
But what I mean is basically just making an assumption of something based on a past event when we're not prophets.
We can't tell how somebody's going to correct.
Let me straighten one thing out real fast.
So I'm black.
I've been black for over in the United States for over 40 years.
When I see too many of us around, I'm like, I got to get up out of here.
If it's either live in an all-white neighborhood or an all-black neighborhood, I'm choosing the white one.
Well, you know, I'm black and I'm 35.
So you got five years on me.
So, you know, I'll take your word.
And I feel the same way about women.
If I'm at an event with too many women, I'm like, I got to bounce.
They're going to start.
All right, you guys.
I'm going to go.
I'm going to go.
Thank you so much, Pearl, for having me.
I really appreciate the conversation.
Hopefully, it wasn't, I didn't get on guys' nerves.
All right.
Thank you, guys.
Call anytime.
All this opium, guys.
I'm clutching the purse.
I don't care.
I'm telling you, if you saw someone get robbed on a, then yes, I'm clutching.
What the hell?
And you know what's funny?
So I always say, you know, I'm from the Pacific Northwest, and they say over 70% of serial killers come from the Pacific Northwest, right?
So if I, when I was growing up, if I saw, you know, a white guy with his hair slicked back and those, like, you know, the glasses with the ridge on the top, I'm running away from that guy.
He could be a serial killer.
You know what I'm saying?
I'm going to find out.
Nope.
Yeah, exactly.
You know what I'm saying?
And honestly, if I met someone who had a bad experience with a black person or a black guy and they crossed the street when they saw me coming, I wouldn't even blame them.
Who cares?
Who cares?
Like, if they had a bad, people are entitled to adjust their behavior based upon the experiences that they have.
The other thing he said was, is like, you can't predict the future.
But, okay, if I saw my mom do drugs and then like have a terrible life, I wouldn't make decisions based on, like, I think you're kind of an idiot if you don't make decisions based on past generations.
Like what you've seen, your parent, your like if you saw your grandpa get in a divorce and you saw your dad get like, and then you get married, isn't that kind of dumb?
Yeah, and then also, you know, he's like, oh, yeah, there are so many good women out there.
But this is appealing to that virtuous woman argument that all these chat cons.
Oh, she's virtuous.
Yeah, but what's going to keep her good once she has the kids, once she has for the ring, once she has leverage, what's going to keep her good?
Nothing exactly.
Okay.
Man, we have so many callers still.
Let me bring up guys, like the video, subscribe.
We've got the full chat gang with MGTAP move by logic, Steve M, Carlos, myself.
Always good to see all the moderators in here.
Ben, how you doing, buddy?
Ben, you're on mute.
He's waiting a while.
So, how's it going?
Hey, Ben, how are you?
Great.
Yourself?
I'm good.
So, what do you think of the topic?
Why should I have hope?
What are your thoughts?
I would say that all there is is hope, but it's for a very small group.
And there are individuals in this world who have hope, and that's all they have.
It's not much more than hope.
Could you expand?
Like, what groups could you expand on that?
Like, what?
How basically, basically, Glenn, what Glenn was saying is on the right track.
The only thing I would say further is it's going to happen a lot faster than he imagines.
There is a split, a massive split that's happening.
And there are those who have a certain level of awareness in this world.
And everything that's been going on is sort of a test.
And the majority of this society, there's obviously no hope at all, and they're going away.
And they're going to go away a lot faster and exponentially than we can ever imagine.
And there's going to be a small group of people left for which there's no guarantees in them either, just hope.
That's what I mean.
So, actually, we have a lot of hope in a small group of people.
We just have most people have no.
But what evidence do you have?
Like, what can I see outside, or what data do you have?
That's any trends or you can obviously see there's no hope in this society.
In the general society, it's just going to collapse a lot.
Is this like a religious thing?
Like, because the Bible says or something, I really wouldn't even call it religious, but the Bible's just one text.
If you look at all the different information and these kinds of texts and the general information in the world, and you can put together a pattern emerges.
So, when can we expect this to happen?
My point is that I expect it to happen a lot faster than anybody that most people would have the expectancy of, like in the next three years.
That's what's happening now.
There are global affairs that are moving into positions.
This is going to happen really fast because there are aspects of this.
Pardon me.
So, you think there'll be like a world war or something?
I don't even know if we're going to really see hot kinetic war because it's possible that even the hot kinetic war that's most on people's mind in the last couple weeks may not really be happening the way that they believe it's happening.
But something else is happening.
The advent of AI, there are a lot of moving parts in a lot of ways that financial collapse, societal collapse has been on people's mind for the last three decades.
But parts of that keep moving into position and moving into position kind of like on a chessboard.
And they're in a place when they're all about to happen in sort of a Kairos.
And it's going to just happen a lot more exponentially than anybody realizes.
So what's going to happen?
But it's not.
Like, what's going to happen?
Could you just specifically tell me what'll happen?
So I can look at the channels and then say you were right or wrong.
In my perspective, a lot of people are essentially, they're going to die for a lot of different reasons.
A lot of different reasons.
And it's going to happen a lot faster than anybody expects.
And there's going to be a small group that's going to be left.
Like Noah's Ark or something.
Not exactly.
Bigger than that.
So there's going to be.
What do you think will kill them?
Like a war?
A lot of people are going to get killed by each other.
A lot of people are going to get killed by their increasing use of drugs.
It's pretty mundane.
There's a lot of people who might get taken out by something that was in something they put in their body in the last five years.
There might be sort of time encapsuled components of what a lot of people let themselves take into their body in the last five years.
What do you think the total?
Certain time release aspects of that keep taking out more people.
But what's the mortality rate that lasts?
How many people has the death rate increased a lot in the last yes?
Yes.
And I still don't see anything that you're talking about unseeding women's selfish desires.
Oh, of course not.
See, like feedbacking also on what one of the other guys was trying to say, but he couldn't articulate it fully.
Obviously, women have always been exactly the way they are.
And I have really developed perspectives and consciousness about why they are that way, but that's way outside of the scope of the present meeting.
The point is, of course, they've always been this way.
But what he was trying to say is that men didn't, he was saying men created them or something.
He was making, he wasn't saying it correctly.
Men have allowed this.
Like women have always been the way they are.
They're designed that way.
It's men have allowed certain things to go this way.
And they're obviously hidden hands that have moved from the boomer generation and then down into especially the older Gen X to allow this permissiveness to become the whatever.
There's a lot of ways that this has been by design, but women have been exactly what they are since there were women.
There's no change.
There's no question about that.
The point Pearl was making, I don't know if people understood what she was saying about the not factoring in the death of infants now, but it really isn't the same.
Mostly what's going on has always been going on.
It's exactly the same.
It might just be being allowed to be seen under a bigger magnified lens.
Female nature.
Like it's never changed.
That's for sure.
I don't really see people dying like that.
Like, I don't know.
It will increase.
Yeah, maybe.
I'm looking at the rates and it's just not significant enough that I like think it's that crazy.
Or as you said before, there are definitely people who math statistics and don't let the real ones get out.
That's possible, but usually when that happens, like I see it in my real life, but I just haven't like not a lot of people I know are dying.
They're kind of chilling.
And then let's just take it back to the top of the conversation.
I mean, if you're talking about everyone dying and all this stuff, well, then there's really no reason to have hope.
Well, that's why I said there's hope for a small group of people.
There will be people left for whom there potentially could be something very good that happens.
And that's not even guaranteed.
It depends on what they do.
Everything is a merit and accomplishment basis.
But there's going to be a small group of people are going to be allowed to do something positive without a lot of the current interference and harassment that's going on.
I'm glad you have a timeline because I hate it when people tell me these crazy things are going to happen and they don't give me a timeline.
So that sounds kind of implausible to me, but you know.
Well, the reason it becomes plausible is because we've moved, if you picture it kind of like moving sliding pieces forward on the board, these pieces have been tested for the last three or really five decades.
So they've moved this piece forward, checked it out, seen what people do with it, and then dialed it back.
And then they moved this one forward.
So we've moved so many of them forward that we have a good test run all through this society of how they'll react to all the different moving of the pieces.
And now they can move them all at once and it's going to collapse in a way that we feel like it's still working.
Daily life is still working.
Most functions are still functioning, but it's a real house of cards.
And since they've tested every different way in the last five decades, how society is going to react to these pieces?
I've heard that, but I just, I don't really believe in like the grand plan.
And I know they'll say, oh, there are these like documents or whatever.
I think people are just trying to make money.
I love AI, to be honest.
I love Grock.
Maybe I'll die.
None of that's really contradictory.
I mean, all the documents can't exist, and people would definitely want to make money off it while they can.
And the AI can couple with that.
None of that's really contradictory.
All those things can be happening at once.
I expect to see everyone dying in the next three years and you can call back in.
Maybe I'll be dead.
All right.
Hopefully not.
Okay.
Yeah, you see, like, I looked up 2025, the death rate is 7.6 per thousand people.
In 1950, it was 17 deaths per thousand people.
Okay.
Everyone calling in at this point, you got four minutes or less because we're on two hours and 15 minutes.
So four minutes or less.
Let me be up.
Brad.
25.
The death rate is 7.6.
Braddy there.
1950.
I'm listening on YouTube, so you're behind.
It's not on YouTube.
It's on Odyssey.
Let me share it off.
Call it in at this point.
Okay.
Hey, Brad.
How's it going?
Hey, all right.
Well, you've got a crowd on tonight, I'll tell you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's nice to be able to talk to you on Odyssey.
It was a little hard to figure out at first.
But anyhow, as far as your subject tonight, hope, I remember that recent interview you had.
I don't remember the young lady's name, but she was trying to talk about the abortion issue where you pointed out.
Lilo Rose.
Lila Rose, thank you.
Yeah, you were talking about the abortion issue, and she kept acting like if we just talk about it and bring awareness to it, yeah, I think this could be improved.
And you said, no, women are not going to give up that power.
And you're absolutely right.
And as long as we have simps out there that either for political power or for financial gain are selling something to women in our society, there's nothing's going to change.
So I don't think there's hope, not with things the way they are, unless it really gets to the point where men overwhelmingly band together.
And I'm not sure if I see that happening and say, this is it, no more.
We like getting laid too much.
You ever see that?
Well, part of it is.
Yeah, you ever tried to stop a guy from simping?
Impossible.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, I know.
I mean, you've called him out for it.
How many times?
And you're absolutely right.
I love your content because you're like a breath of fresh air.
Somebody to kind of stand up for us a little bit in a world where we keep getting smacked around so darn much.
So I don't think, you know, and I think you're realistic about it too.
I don't think talking about it is going to fix anything per se, but at least we feel a little better because we've got a place we can vent and we know we're not alone.
That was a big thing.
I went through 36 years of marriage, four kids.
My wife decided to leave me after my health went downhill and I was no longer as good a provider.
And it's a story that, you know, with shows like yours, I hear it repeated.
So I know I'm not the only guy out there that after putting in, you know, decades of taking care of six people in my household, pretty much on my own, that my reward for it is to die old and alone.
You know, so would you say to young men who, what would you say to a young man saying, hey, Brad, what are the odds?
What could I do to have a 36 plus year long marriage?
Is it possible?
What can I do?
I'm expiring to that.
What would you tell them?
Well, here's the thing.
I mean, I didn't realize because my wife, like a lot of women, kind of got into the marriage because she wanted to get out of her parents' home.
And I've seen that.
I'm old enough.
I've been around enough.
And I worked in a job that dealt directly with the public.
And it's a pattern I've seen repeated over and over again.
Young women after school that were in my generation were looking for a way to get away from their family.
And to get married was a way of getting out of the house and having what they thought was a measure of independence.
And so they just picked the first available guy that looks like he's willing to settle down.
So they don't get the Chad.
They don't get the Tyrone.
They get the guy that's settled and it can provide.
And then they have to keep up a false front.
It's like the Trad Cons that Pearl's been talking to and about.
They put on this fake front, but after a while, they get tired of doing it.
And society doesn't say that they have to do it.
They say, well, why are you putting up with this?
So then they quit doing it.
So I don't think it's necessarily possible.
I've got a son who's in his, he's almost 40 now.
His wife got eight kids out of him.
And about a year or so ago, she kicked him to the curb because she could get enough financial support from her family who has provided a home for her where she doesn't have to pay rent.
And of course, with eight kids, you get all kinds of government assistance.
And she already had apparently a guy on the side that she found that was suitable to replace my son.
So that was the end of that.
And then I've got three daughters, and each of them have been divorced.
And similar situations, at least two of the girls, the oldest and the youngest, they got married early.
Like they left the home a week before they turned 18 and moved straight in with the family of the boyfriend.
And then within a year or so, they were pregnant and got married to the guy.
And that lasted for a couple of years.
And then they found themselves somebody they liked better and moved on.
And it's just, you know, and that's those, I raised these people.
So it's not, you know, a matter of bad parenting, but the society that we live in just does not encourage, you know, long-term monogamy.
It does not encourage putting in the work.
It's, I love how Pearl put it.
She said, you know, this world is all about the path to happiness for women.
And they don't concern themselves about the kid.
My grandson, my eldest daughter's son, when she put him back in his car seat to go home to her ex-husband, he cried.
It broke my heart.
He's sitting there and the mama, I wanted to stay with mama.
So I don't, it's, it's not happening, Doug.
What do you think about dads?
Because I got a lot of heat because I said one of the comments said that there's many, sorry, there's many dads who think they can control what their daughter does, that if they just raise her right, that she won't get divorced, she won't be a hoe.
What do you think about that?
Did you have similar thoughts when you were young?
Well, yeah, I mean, you always have these high in the sky kind of pie outlooks on things.
Why don't people do this and do that?
It's so simple until you're faced with it.
I'm sorry, I lost your, I can see your mouth moving, Pearl.
I can't hear you.
No, I didn't say anything.
I was just listening.
Oh, okay.
It must be a delay in the feed.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
The thought originally was, you know, if I saw somebody else and their kids went, you know, off the path, so to speak, you know, I figured it must have been a simple solution.
They didn't apply.
But it also takes two in the household.
And I came to realize that since I worked a full-time job and then some, I was away from the house a lot.
And my wife did not co-parent.
She counterparented.
And it was all about, you know, making friends with the kids and, you know, being seen as the good parent.
And then she would come to me with things like, you know, your daughter wants to know if she can spend the night at so-and-so's house.
I told her I'd ask you.
And I'd say, well, what's your opinion?
And she'd say something like, well, I don't think it's a good idea for such and such a reason.
And I'm thinking I'm being a supportive husband and a good father.
And I say, okay, well, I can see your logic in that.
I'll support you with that.
What does she do?
She goes to the kids and says, your dad, I tried to tell him, but he doesn't care about you in so many words.
He said no.
Well, she's the one that said no.
So when you had somebody like that in the background the whole time, and she's trying to be friends with the kids, what I tried to do to keep these kids from becoming 304s, I didn't have the assistance of my spouse and my partner in raising them to help make that happen.
And even though to a degree, I won't say that my ex-wife did not try to instill some moral values in these kids.
I had a daughter that was sneaking out of her bedroom window at one o'clock in the morning to meet up with the boy.
And, you know, we tried to put a stop to it.
I even ended up putting four inch screws through the window frame so she couldn't open the sash to get out.
And then it was, you can't do that.
If there's a fire, we'll die.
I said, look, you're five feet away from the back door.
You have an escape route.
And besides, that window frame will smash if you take your chair and push it through it.
But even trying to keep them locked in.
And a lot of people would say, oh, it's child abuse.
You can't do that.
There's no control.
These kids are influenced by their friends.
They're influenced by the society around them.
And society says, be a hoe.
It's not being a hoe.
It's being free.
It's having fun.
It's having a good time.
What you're talking about?
Because one thing Pearl and I have been, Pearl has been covering more content about mothers and how much damage mothers can do.
And I've told Pearl we need to focus on hopefully one day that mothers will be judged as harshly as fathers because mothers do a whole lot of damage.
Children in a two-parent household are more of a reflection of a mother than a father nowadays.
I mean, look at Will Smith.
Will Smith's oldest child is not an alien like Jaden and Willow Smith are because they had like a regular woman as a mother.
And Jada Pickett Smith is a freaking demon, which is why her kids are crazy.
But mothers do so much more damage, but they have that get out of jail free card.
We still don't hold mothers to the same level of accountability that we do fathers.
And it's sad.
Yeah, if I tried to enforce any rules of the house, you know, it was just further evidence that I was a meanie and I was the enemy.
And, you know, come to mommy, I'll comfort you.
I'll never forget my wife actually coming to me and saying, you know, your son wants to do this and that.
And I said, well, go ask your dad.
And he said, I can't.
I'm scared.
He scares me.
And he was like just dropping into the narrative, you know, of hers that dad's a meanie.
He won't let you do anything.
So, but I will say this, just real quickly, if I can, that pretty princess thing has really contributed to this as well.
And that's, you know, where the fathers raise their girls to not have accountability.
You know, that's a big part of it.
I tried not to do that.
I really did.
And I was just recently talking with my middle daughter that I'm on really good terms with.
And I said, you know, thankfully you weren't, at least I didn't raise you that way, to think that you were privileged simply because you were female and that you were not accountable for what you did.
And she's amazing.
I mean, that girl, when she was a toddler, she knocked over a flower pot and she came to us and said, excuse me, I knocked over a flower pot.
I have spanked myself and I'm putting myself to bed early.
I have never, I have never met a child that did that.
And so she is like the eagle of justice.
I mean, she apparently got into a chat on Facebook with the extended family, her siblings and her mother.
And the youngest one started saying, talking smack about her, about me.
And she jumped in there and said, you've got no business talking about your dad like that.
And she stood up for me and defended me tooth and nail.
And even my ex-wife couldn't say anything.
So that made me feel good.
But it is a challenge.
And I would not advise, you know, my son, poor guy, eight kids.
And I think he's paying something like $1100 a month in child support.
And he's working basically fast food kitchen for like, he's hoping to make $19 an hour.
In hindsight, do you wish that you had divorced her like when you were younger?
Well, you know, I've had somewhat of that discussion with the middle daughter who's in her mid-30s.
And no, she said that she appreciated the fact that there was a certain level of consistency.
There was a certain stability in the home.
And this was even with her mother and I not getting along at times.
I was just curious if hindsight 2020.
Yeah, because so many people say, you know, if you're having problems in the marriage and like it becomes vocal, you know, and there's verbal disagreements and things like that, it's better not to not to put the kids through that stress.
But my daughter says absolutely not.
She says the fact that she had a mom and dad to come home to and that we stayed together at least.
And this is what people used to do years ago, stayed together for the kids until they were of an age where they could set out on their own.
I think that the older folks, they knew what they were doing.
I think that that has more application than people give it credit for.
Yeah.
Cool.
Doug, yeah, you got any other questions for him?
Thank you for calling in, Brad.
Really?
Yeah, I'm really happy to get in here.
If you guys had a way you could put like some instructions up on your YouTube page or something for people, because it was a mystery to me, first of all, how to transition from the YouTube to the Audacity Network.
And then I really wasn't sure.
I thought I'd heard somebody say something about that you guys were using Zoom, but how to be able to call in and participate.
So thank you so much.
Let me write that down.
Call in any time.
Okay, thanks.
Thanks for the feedback.
That was helpful, actually.
Thanks for calling in.
How many more calls do you want to take, Paul?
Because we have one, wait, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen people.
Wait, and we are on the two-hour and 21-minute mark.
How many more calls do you want to take?
Let's just keep going.
Well, let's do it.
All right.
So let me bring in he's been waiting for a while.
Guys, hit that like button and thank you, everyone.
I may have my dad bring me a snack, though.
I'll bite you naked.
Are you there?
Hey, can you hear me?
Can you hear me okay or what?
Yeah, go ahead, buddy.
So I just want to make sure I'm not near a fan.
So I just wanted to say that I think there is a reason to have hope, but it might not be exactly what you want.
The technology that's currently that looks like it's going to happen with Neuralink is going to make it so you can't really lie effectively if you volunteer to be plugged into this thing.
And it's not going to be something where you have to get something permanent.
There's plenty of headsets that you can just put on.
So dating is going to change.
I mean, if people start screening their dates with this kind of ability, there's going to be no more secrets.
Like it's all going to be above board.
And you're not going to be able to get away with lying to people anymore.
In addition to that, I think that if things go the way they look like they're going, who knows what's going to happen?
You know, the robots are going to start being a viable option.
And I mean, I think a lot of guys are going to be just fine with that.
As soon as the stigma is no longer attached to it, they're going to be good with that.
Women are going to have a problem with that because they can't really get what they want of a relationship with the robot effectively.
Who are we going to bitch to?
Yeah, exactly.
You're going to have to program in bitching, and then it's going to have to.
Well, you're not going to.
In order for it to be realistic enough for a man to be satisfied with the robot, it's just going to have to be a little bitchy, like once a week.
That's it.
It's going to be a much harder lift for a guy, you know, taking punishment, but not too And still standing up for himself, it's going to be a much harder program to run.
And the other thing is that the woman's always going to know it's not real and that the robot isn't actually suffering and worrying about what she cares about.
So it's, you know, I think there's a psychological problem with just the way women run on average.
But if you combine the robots with the fact that artificial womb technology is starting to look viable, and apparently they can recreate an ovum from just about any cell, but just by removing the nucleus now, we're going to be getting to a point where most people are probably going to retreat into technology.
And then you'll probably have sort of like another, it'll be like second wave Amish, but it'll just be religious people who think that participating in this kind of technological revolution is the mark of the beast as foretold in the Bible.
So you'll have the regular Amish and then you have these people who were fine with automobiles, TV, and cell phones, but they're not going to ever, you know, put a brain chip in.
And I think everything's going to change and things are going to become a lot more honest.
And whatever jobs are left where computers go, whatever jobs are left for people, I mean, it's not like women usually are very good at competing on the up and up with men.
So you're going to see a lot of really, really hot women.
Their last resort is basically going to be selling their eggs to people with hot sex robots and artificial wombs.
And then there's the designer baby thing, which is, you know, has a new wrinkle where, I mean, you're looking at the process of conception possibly becoming completely artificial for anybody who wants to do it.
So all of these sort of angles that exist where men are being screwed over and women aren't going to change that behavior.
Well, I mean, these highways are just going right over that dirt road and there's no stopping it.
Okay.
Anyways, I'll let you guys go.
Thanks.
All right.
Have a good one, buddy.
Okay.
What did you think of that?
I mean, this whole where society is going, sex robots, AOI, I mean, AI stuff, I don't even get wrapped up in that talk.
You know, you can go around in circles in that.
I mean, yeah, I guess it's kind of like wait and see.
Like, it could happen.
I guess we'll see.
Yeah.
You still have to regulate stuff like that, and you have to go through the government, and women just aren't going to let that happen.
So, I mean, you can go around in circles.
I can't think about that.
Yeah, women.
I mean, can you imagine?
Yeah.
Anyway, that's why it makes me laugh when I hear women say, why isn't there a male birth control pill?
Because you won't let it happen, ladies.
I'm telling you, like, women know not what they're asking for.
Can you imagine if men controlled access to relationships in marriage and who gets born?
I don't even think, I think women control access to marriage.
Say again?
I think women control access to marriage.
Because if men controlled access, then they would be marrying this hot 22-year-olds.
But women control access, so they're pushing it off.
Well, I mean, I see what you're saying, but most women will not propose to a man.
So a woman may not want to get married, but if they do get married, they'll still wait for a man to ask.
Some of the most powerful women I've ever dated, surgeons, lawyers, doctors, they will not approach a man and they will not propose to a man.
And eventually, most women will want to get married sometime in their lifetime.
I think more men want marriage than women.
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
So that's why I think the power is in the women's hands.
No, no, no, no, no, because even the small percentage of women who want to get married can't get married without a man marrying them first.
So what you're saying is less women want to get married, so more men won't get married.
And I agree with that.
But the few women that do get married still can't get married without a man asking them.
Yeah, but I think like if a woman says, I want to get married and she's 22 and hot, she gets to pick who she marries.
She's got all the cards.
All of them.
Yeah, but that's such a small percentage of women.
I think that's, I'm not going to say it's statistically insignificant, but that want to get married when they're young.
What do you mean?
Yeah, first off, 22 and hot in America.
And then two, want to get married.
That's such a small number of women that I would argue that it's statistically insignificant.
No, but that's my point.
It's like it's getting pushed off.
Like, yeah, I just disagree.
I think women are in control of marriage because I don't think men get to pick like too many men are sexless.
And it's like, well, women aren't opting into relationships with them.
But what you're saying is, is okay, a woman can be ready to get married and pick a man, but she's not going to marry that man.
That's what I'm talking about.
The man has to marry her.
So she can pick a man.
She can want marriage, but she's not going to get married unless the man asks first.
And he could just not ask.
And she won't get married.
Yeah, I just disagree because what I see in like when I look at couples is like more men that want to marry the women than women want to marry the man.
Sadly.
Yeah, but what I'm sad, but I agree with you, Pearl.
We're not disagreeing.
All I'm saying is, is even the small percentage of women, no matter where they are, will not initiate, will not propose to a man.
This won't do it.
So they can pick a man, want to get married, but they won't propose to a man.
They won't do it.
So a man still has to marry them.
That's all I'm saying.
Yeah, I know they propose, but I just, I still think women have more power in the marriage market because they have more men that'll like marry them than like men do, have women that'll marry them.
Well, you know, I've seen under like 30, maybe, but yeah.
I've seen a couple of women where it's like you want to marry the guy and you're in a situationship for like five or six years.
Why don't you, oh, I could never propose to a man.
So they'll sit there unmarried because the guy's not asking.
That's all I'm saying.
Oh, I don't think so.
I think they're lying to themselves.
They just don't want to be married.
They like, they like, like, usually, like, especially the situationship girl, like they, they want to be in a situationship because if they didn't, they wouldn't be.
Like, you, they can't.
Yeah, go ahead.
All right.
I'm going to let Asan in.
I'm going to say, guys, you got four minutes or less.
Asan is coming in.
Ahsan, how you doing, buddy?
Hey, I'm doing well.
Can you guys hear me?
I can hear you.
Hey, Pearl.
I would say good morning from this side of the world and good night for you guys.
Okay.
So, real quick, why should I have hope?
Okay, so first of all, you should have hope for yourself because not for me, not for me.
For most of the people out there that are listening, that our audience, I would say, 500 people that are listening still now.
First of all, the nature works in a very unique way.
People that don't go with the nature's rules eventually get cast out and their DNA gets obsolete.
And people that play by the rules, you know, give the due respect to the nature, all the parameters that are set that way.
Eventually, when the guy, I really like the points that Brad made, especially about culture, about religion, how people that are, you know, believer in some sort of theology where they're not going to let Neuralink control them.
You know, they're not going to let some liberal propagandists destroy their family.
So people that are in control, definitely, they're going to win at that.
Cool.
Thanks for calling in.
No problem.
Have a good day, guys.
Thank you for having me.
Have a good one.
Okay.
We're going to bring our boy Sean up because he's been waiting for a while.
Sean, what's up, buddy?
What's going on?
Can you hear me?
I can hear you.
I'm still in recovery, Sean.
Man, talk about it.
No, I was, but we don't have time.
Tell me, why should I have hope?
Well, I guess we could say that you could have hope in your own life, but for the majority, like you said, society, I say you don't have hope in that, in that idea that most people were talking about.
It just, I just can't wing it.
I just can't make up something.
As much as I can easily break up with girls, I just can't make this one up.
I can't sweet talk my way out of this one.
Yeah.
You're just going to have to redirect your energy into something else.
But as far as what most people conceive as relationships and what the past may or may have not been, guys, look, you're going to have to redirect that energy heavy.
And it doesn't make you a black pill.
It doesn't make you a doomsday.
Just makes you realistic.
Is that so bad?
Yeah, and you could still have a good life.
You seem like a happy guy.
What?
I'm super happy.
There's dirt bikes, four-wheelers.
I still got friends.
I accumulated resources.
I've done well for myself over life.
I mean, that's what I lean on.
Not whether shorty is going to commit a box to me for the next 50 years.
Come on now.
Women ain't worried about me.
They damn near, they're going to spas.
They got dogs and strollers.
They got cats and strollers.
I mean, they living their best lives.
Some are complaining on the internet, but for the most part, they live the longest, right?
Even if they're downtrodden, ain't doing nothing.
They're still going to get social benefits, government housing.
I mean, they're living their lives.
So I'm going to have to live mine.
I'll be dang.
Yeah, cool.
Yeah.
And I think a lot of people, especially women, that think that men are going to do with bad news and realistic perspectives, what they would do.
Men are going to act.
Whether the news is bad or good, women will take bad news and just sit there and just cry about it.
Understand I'm saying?
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
So I have, for me personally, I felt like life begins when you accept this.
And it actually gets way better because you don't expect anything anymore.
So would you agree or you disagree?
I would agree, but just with an addition to it, right?
I just let go of that idea.
And there's so many other ideas to construct.
All right, come on.
Come on, Pearl.
We're living longer, right?
We're not involved with as much wars in the past.
I'm not a slave.
Like, I mean, come on.
Like, I'd rather not be a slave.
I'd rather not fight in World War I or World War II.
I would not want to fight the Ottomans.
I would not want to fight the Vikings.
I'll pass on all of that just to get the time that I have today.
So I just kind of redirected my energy and stopped worrying about that.
What, Hollywood 1950s, household, what is it, housewife myth?
That's a lie.
And I've been across the world, Pearl.
It doesn't matter.
We go to Japan.
They shame the heck out of women.
I said this millions of times.
They shame them.
There's no out-of-wedlock births like that.
It's like 1%.
But girls just said, hey, I'm not going to get married since you're going to shame me.
Hey, I'm not going to have kids if you're going to shame me.
And then that's the standard.
And they have the largest decline.
But I want to figure out when did we become Bill Gates?
World population.
Now we're worried about the population and where it goes.
Poor people will have babies.
They're having them all over Africa.
Don't worry.
Africa got you.
But at the end of the day, there's dirt bikes.
There's four-wheelers.
There's a lot of things to be happy about.
And I'm serious.
And also, I'm not going to jump off.
It's going to drive you crazy thinking you can control things you can't control.
Like, so exactly.
I talk about a friend of mine who's a vegan activist.
And the other day he tells me a story about this guy that went to jail for 10 years for veganism.
And I just thought that is the stupidest thing I've ever heard to go to jail for.
Right?
I was like, why would you go to jail for that?
Like, even if you think, like, imagine if I went to jail for abortion, that would be the stupidest thing I ever did.
Like, these women are going to give their kids anyway.
And when we, we're actually good friends, and it's funny.
And I, we talk about this, and I equate veganism to the abortion thing.
I think they're the same.
Yeah.
You're killing.
It's things you can't control.
Exactly.
And I had a friend recently.
He lived in the Middle East, like UAE.
I've been there.
I lived there for a couple of months.
And, you know, you look at it in extremes like, oh, the West is X, Y, and Z.
Well, look, bro, my friend, he said something to a woman, and I mean a local woman.
He called her B, and he didn't call her B direct.
He said, hey, don't talk to this B.
She called the police.
The police came and put him in jail for seven days.
He had to pay 7,000 euros.
Like, even though they're quote unquote traditional in the Middle East, those women still hold tremendous powers.
They call the cops, you're done.
Period.
Like gynocracy at its highest extent.
So at the end of the day, if I'm in the West, the first thing I'm going to do is get my money up, get my resources, live the best life I can live.
That's get some friends.
Like go outside, touch grass.
And I'm not saying get big to get women.
And then I'm not saying all that.
I'm just saying there's a lot of things to be happy about.
I can read.
The literacy rate is high.
I didn't die at 32.
Most of the diseases are curable.
Like, come on.
People are living in the world.
Back in the days, Pearl.
You'd be dead.
People are living with HIV now.
Yeah, right.
You can hook up.
And you also have access to women to the fact like kings didn't have access.
Like, like, kings didn't have access to the women you can sleep with.
Now just saying.
You can have a recess chin, get on a boat and come to Thailand and get a girl to love you.
Like, it's not that bad globally.
For now.
They raised the price on it.
But all right, Sean, we still got a full call line.
Yeah, shout out to you, Doug.
Shout out to Pearl.
Peace out.
I was going to talk to you, buddy.
Okay.
Next up, we have.
Thanks for hanging in here, guys.
Really appreciate it.
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I'll let a CJ come up.
CJ has been waiting for a while.
Thanks for waiting patiently.
It says joining.
CJ, you there?
CJ?
CJ.
Can you hear me?
I can hear you.
All right.
So on the whole hope thing, I have a conceptual kind of issue with it.
I don't like hope either.
But my thing is when you like, you can either move into like happiness or you can fall into sad reality.
And I'd rather stay in the sad reality than be kind of BS into hope and just continually have nowhere to go but disappointment and dread and sadness.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I agree.
So, yeah, I agree with you that hope is a trap.
It's just, it's a little more insidious than a lot of people realize.
Yep.
Yep.
Especially as a man.
In 2025, you just can't live like that.
Like what that Kiana girl was saying.
We have to have, oh no, this is how women talk.
It's why I got a lot of issues with Islam and stuff because it's like you're just BSing these people up and down and not really realizing the collateral damage of what happens when reality smacks them as hard as it's going to.
Yep, I agree.
I agree.
Thanks for calling.
No problem.
Okay.
We're going to let we could do one more.
Okay.
I'm bringing in Jay because I see him in the chat.
So I'm let him in.
Jay, are you there?
It says connecting to audio.
Connecting audio.
Oh, Eric Navis says, tell her she should have hope because we still have a chance to smack feminism.
As long as they have something to get mad about, we will always have something to laugh at.
I mean, we could laugh at it, but we're not beating feminism.
They won.
Yep.
Like, why would you sign up?
Like, there's like an article that says, like, conservatives lost the battle.
Why do you expect them to win the war?
On the website, Brad donated $25.
That's good.
Oh, thanks, Brad.
He says, Pearl Reed, I swear I almost heard you say, why should I have maybe next call-in show?
And then, is there anything else that says Pearl Read here?
I think we're good.
Jay's audio is still connecting.
So going once, going twice.
Sorry, Jay.
Your audio didn't connect in time.
But she's in the waiting room.
And then the last person, I'm going to pick a new person.
Let's take a look at the draw and I'll do it says iPhone 2.
Are you there?
Yeah, I'm here.
My name is Angelo.
Sorry.
What's up, Angelo?
Tell me, why should I have hope?
I simply just think you should have hope because it's people that's it's people that listen to you and it's people that understand that understand the points that you're making, you know.
And I think that, you know, we try to still, even though we understand that things can go bad, things can go wrong, we still, we still do our best to do the right things.
I think that men getting married and women being married and having kids together is a beautiful thing.
It's supposed to be a beautiful thing.
And it's sad today to see that, how, how far society has gone to tarnish that.
Well, why would I tell them that it's not going to fail when it will probably fail?
I really don't have an answer to that question.
It's supposed to lie.
No, no, not at all.
Well, and like I've said this many times on the stream, I'll say it again.
Men are going to act.
Okay.
You just want them to have the best, the most knowledge and to be in the best position to make a decision when they do.
Once again, if you're a doomer and a gloomer to a man, you know, that's not going to stop him from acting.
You just want him to take what's really going on out there into consideration before they act.
Right.
That's all it is.
Right.
And I think I kind of like got an example of this because I was on the live yesterday talking to some people and the topic was basically, you know, does a woman's past matter?
You know, this topic is obviously brought up a lot.
And it was a guy in there.
He was basically explaining that, you know, he wouldn't advise younger guys to deal with girls that have high body counts.
And there were like a lot of older people in the chat basically trying to convince this younger guy that, you know, it doesn't matter, the woman's past doesn't matter and things like that.
And I just, you know, that was basically the point that I was making.
Like, well, I think that, you know, I have sons.
So I will want them to know the probabilities or I would want them to know the outcomes of any decisions they might make.
So being the fact that being married is a huge one, I would definitely want him to know what he was getting, getting himself into, especially with what kind of, especially when we're talking about the kind of woman that he wants to marry.
So, you know, having a high body count or a woman having a past would be a significant factor.
And if he's going to spend the rest of his life with her.
So I kind of understand where it's like the youth is like, they're confused in certain senses because you got one side telling them that certain things aren't okay.
But then you got older people telling them, well, you're going to change your mind.
And, you know, things are going to change for you, but the outcomes are still going to be the same.
But you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I know what you mean.
I don't think women's past matters anymore.
Riley Reed got married.
Landa Rhodes got married.
Yeah, sorry.
I think being hot.
I think being hot matters more because America's fat.
And yeah, I think it's being hot and then just being able to you got to play a character enough to be able to get the ring.
Yeah.
And then once you get it, it's just you.
Then bait and switch, obviously.
Yep, that's what happens.
I agree.
Yeah.
Sorry, we're dooming and gloom over here.
But it's the harsh reality of it, you know.
I don't, I wouldn't say, I wouldn't say it's doom and gloom because, you know, to be honest, like, I'm just, Pearly, I've been watching you probably since the beginning and it's amazing for me to get a chance to talk to you.
I can't, you know, like, I'm really a big fan of yours.
And when I seen like the trailer that you know, when I seen the trailer of the documentary that you're putting out, like that really brought tears to my eyes because a lot of this stuff that you're talking about is things that I wish I would have knew before I ended up in the position that I'm in.
You know, I'm a young father in the court system.
All the things that you talk about, I'm going through.
So I definitely understand the necessity of what you guys are doing.
And I wouldn't call it doom and gloom.
I would call it, you know, real information that young people need to know.
Yeah, completely.
Okay, real fast.
Let's say you meet a guy who just graduated college and he's entering the workforce.
He gets a job at the bottom run of corporate America and making about $42,000.
And he comes to you for relationship advice, Angelo.
What would you tell him?
Summit up like 30 seconds.
What would you tell him?
I would tell him.
To be honest, I don't think that there's anything that I could tell him because it's like you can tell a guy, you could tell a guy, hey, that the girl that you're dating, but then you got to worry about the band switch.
I don't, you know, I can tell him, hey, be smart about your money.
You know, do as much as you can to protect your assets and things like that.
But I feel like you could tell a guy whatever.
He's going to still do what he wants to do.
He's going to act.
Like you said, he's going to do what he wants to do.
Yeah.
Okay.
Thanks for calling in.
Thank you very much.
Call anytime, Angelo.
Good talking to you.
Yeah, please.
Good talking to you guys.
God bless.
Cool.
All right.
It's crazy.
We still have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen people on the line, but it is getting late.
We're going to wrap it.
I want to get this food before this place closes because my dad's gone.
Sorry, guys.
I'm hungry.
You were hungry earlier.
I know.
That was my first meal of the day.
It was 800 calories.
We do in a consequence called Pearl.
Like, I'm hungry.
I'm hungry.
I got to get food.
I'm angry.
Yeah.
It was like 800 calories.
I can't be hungry.
Okay.
I don't care.
Get food.
All right, guys.
Thanks for watching.
Maybe we'll do a part two of this.
I had another question I wanted to ask where it was like similar to this, but a little different.
So I'll keep it in mind for a future show, or maybe we'll do part two.
Yeah, because there are a lot of people on the line still and new people, too.
So we'll have to do a part two this week sometime.
Yeah.
Okay.
But thanks for watching, guys.
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Doug MPA, any final thoughts?
Yeah.
I'm signing like a broken record, but you know, men are going to act.
Red pillars, we can say don't get married all to the high heavens.
And the majority of men in my lifetime are going to get married.
We can say don't have kids, but the majority of men are going to have children.
So just give them the most information and let them know what might happen.
So if it does happen, they're ready.
And that's what Pearl's doing.
Yeah.
Guys, just expect between two to 10 years.
And then you can go get a younger, hotter wife.
Silver lining, right?
Your wife will get older and uglier, but your next wife will be the same age.
Thanks for watching, guys.
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I'll see you next time.
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