Pearl Davis critiques Psychology Today’s framing of emotional abuse as subjective, risking misinterpretation of dissatisfaction in relationships, while comparing Caitlin Clark’s progressive rhetoric to career-driven activism like LeBron James. A guest from the Save Indian Family Foundation reveals India’s divorce surge (6% nationally, up to 33% regionally) fueled by gynocentric courts, false abuse claims under dowry laws, and a backlog of 50M+ pending cases, with one man’s suicide linked to legal harassment. Davis argues white birth rates must rise to preserve America’s "innovation" and cultural dominance, contrasting this with government incentives for single mothers like Section 8 housing. In debate with Isabel Brown—a physician-turned-feminist advocate—she dismisses the gender wage gap as statistically manipulated while Brown counters with intersectional feminism, citing CDC data showing 1/3 of Gen Z girls seriously considering suicide but noting 80% of suicides are male, exposing systemic neglect of men’s struggles amid media-driven narratives. [Automatically generated summary]
Women today are wondering if they are in an emotionally abusive relationship.
And so, psychology today is helping them out.
Apparently, according to Psychology Today, emotionally abusive relationships can be hard to detect because the abuse is often nuanced and gradual.
Hello, everybody.
My name is Pearl Davis, and welcome to another episode of Pearl Daily.
Make sure you like the video on your way in.
Apparently, emotionally abusive relationships diminish your sense of self-worth and ability to trust your judgment.
These relationships are inherently stressful and can impact your mental and physical health.
Think of your body as an informant that communicates to you when things aren't okay or if you're being harmed.
So, apparently, this woman, Leah Aguire, a contributor and therapist on Psychology Today, says, I am often asked, how do I know if I'm in an emotionally abusive relationship?
Ladies, I'm sure.
You just would not know.
I mean, you got to figure it out.
And I always respond with, well, how do you feel in your relationship?
This response can be frustrating for those individuals who are looking for a checklist, an itemized list of specific behaviors that can be labeled as abusive.
Unfortunately, because emotionally abusive relationships are often complex and more nuanced, the abuse can be hard to detect and put one's finger on.
Emotionally abusive relationships often don't start off as abusive.
The abuse occurs slowly and gradually.
And once trust has been established and the emotions are involved through coercive and controlling behaviors, the emotionally abusive partner creates power and control dynamic that systemically diminishes your sense of self-worth and your ability to trust your judgment and intuition.
This can make it hard to see the relationship for what it is.
Therefore, it's important to focus on how you are feeling in the relationship physically and emotionally.
Now, the reason everybody I'm reading you this article is not because I'm trying to shove some BS psychology down your throat, but I want to show you how women, and I guess men sometimes, YouTube, no hate speech, not all, not all, not all, get into the wrong type of content.
And what it does is it rationalizes them leaving relationships and also leaving their husbands.
And it supplies a therapist in your city or zip code.
So what are they peddling?
People to tell your problems to.
Problems you used to work out with your friends, family, and you would go to close relatives and maybe figure it out as a family.
The challenge is now people are having one kid.
We don't live by extended family.
You know, you're kind of shit out of luck.
You're on your own.
And half of your parents are divorced anyway.
You can't go to them.
And what happens is they have crazy women in colleges that go study psychology.
And yeah, they set your wife up within a crazy woman to talk to about her problems and your relationships.
Her words, it's based on how you feel, not a checklist of what is abuse.
For example, it says healthy relationships offer you peace and security.
Now, as you guys know, this isn't always necessarily the case.
You are not always going to feel secure in a relationship.
I'll give you guys an example.
A woman could be in a healthy relationship with a guy that's very high status.
She probably will never feel secure completely because that guy can trade her for another 22-year-old.
Do you think Melania Trump wakes up every day feeling secure?
Every day?
And is the insecurity that we feel, is it their fault?
I mean, it's not like they put a gun to our head regardless of what they are doing.
And so what this therapy website is doing is it's saying the feelings that you have are another person's fault.
Now, it also says emotionally abusive relationships are inherently stressful and your body takes on the stress of your emotionally abusive relationship.
Below are examples of how the stress of an abusive relationship can manifest in your body.
And what I've noticed is in a lot of these websites that are selling you something, they have a tendency to say that the symptoms are symptoms that most people have or everybody has at some point.
Chronic headaches, chronic fatigue, digestive issues, weight loss, hair loss, high blood pressure, muscle tension, back pain, inconsistent or irregular periods, insomnia, poor memory loss, and brain fog.
So now they're going to ask you to tune into how you are feeling.
Take some time to connect with your body and ask how you're feeling.
Ask yourself the following questions.
So I guess these questions will let me know, am I being abused?
You know, it's not clear, so I got to go to my website and I guess, you know, I'm going to see based on these questions if I'm being emotionally abused.
Let me see since being in a relationship.
So if I've had any changes in my mood or mental state since being in a relationship, then if I have, I've been emotionally abused.
Okay.
Interesting.
How might I be acting or behaving differently that may indicate that I'm not okay?
So if I act or behave differently, hmm.
How do I feel around or in the presence of my partner?
What feelings come up when I think about my partner or relationship?
And have there been any noticeable changes in my body or physical health?
So what's actually going on here is oftentimes women are married to a guy that we deem as boring.
And what happens is we know that they're a good guy.
We know it.
But, and that guy provides security, but they have to rationalize a reason to leave.
So what she's doing or the person writing this or the people she's consulting with are doing is they're married to good men and they need to rationalize a reason to divorce.
They know he's not actually abusive.
So they bring out emotional abuse.
And it's really just because they married men that they find boring or they didn't like that much because they wanted a kid and they got whatever they wanted and they need a reason to leave and they don't want to look like they're a bad person.
Because if they leave because they're bored, that makes them look like a bad person.
If they leave because they were emotionally abused, then that saves their reputation.
That is women's driving force, is our reputation.
And when you put it like that, stuff like this makes perfect sense, sort of.
You know, I mean, it's still insane.
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And I do read your questions and your comments in the chat.
We don't have any yet, so you could be the first one, you know, while we're live every day.
And, you know, most of the time on channels, you have to pay for them to read your comment every single time.
You do $10 super chat.
Lucky for you, we're demonetized.
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You can put unlimited chats.
I mean, please don't put essays like within reason, okay?
Nobody's abused it.
So we could keep doing it as long as no one abuses it.
Okay.
So the next story that we're going to talk about is Caitlin Clark.
So Caitlin Clark is a woman that is playing in the WNBA.
And Caitlin Clark is a phenomenal basketball player.
But the challenge is she is in a league full of liberal women.
Now, these liberal women are trying to make things political when really it should, I would argue, be about basketball.
So she was nominated to be the athlete of the year.
And at this award ceremony, what did they have to bring up?
Sexism and racism.
Now, as you guys know, women, we do change over time.
And we often go with what is trendy.
So if you have a upper class, it seemed like conservative woman in a league full of lesbians, liberals.
I'm not surprised when her rhetoric is becoming more liberal.
And the reason this actually relates to the stages that women go through in marriage is oftentimes they start off as a Christian conservative woman.
And if they're in the wrong friend group, get into the wrong content, or get around the wrong people, they go through different phases where, you know, we change.
So let's.
For athlete of the year, like tremendous.
Yeah, you know, your announcement for athlete of the year, like tremendous, incredible positive feedback.
That's what we've seen across the board.
There's always going to be some negativity.
And I feel like you have had to answer more questions than anybody about and sexuality in sport because of just who you are and you represent the growth of this thing.
And even today, earlier today, Megan Kelly, she was saying that you were apologizing for your white privilege and the fact that you wanted to uplift black female athletes and make sure that they were getting the shine, kind of like your pioneers were getting the shine that they deserved.
And I just want to know how you feel or how you respond to some of those criticisms when you have to deal with something that it's really not your problem.
Like I feel like it's them looking in a mirror a little bit, but it still comes down on your shoulders.
I feel like I always have had really good perspective on everything that's kind of happened in my life, whether that's been good, whether that's been bad.
And then obviously coming to the WNBA, like I've said, I feel like I've earned every single thing that's happened to me over the course of my career.
But also I grew up a fan of this league from a very young age.
Like my favorite player was Maya Moore.
Like I know what this league was about.
And like I said, like it's only been around 25 plus years.
So I know there's been so many amazing black women that have been in this league and continuing to uplift them, I think, is very important.
And that's something I'm very aware of.
And like I said, like I try to just be real and authentic and, you know, share my truth.
And I think that's very easy for me.
Like I'm very comfortable in my own skin.
And that's kind of been how it is my entire life.
Yes.
Now we have to think about this from her point of view.
She recently, like let's put ourselves in Caitlin Clark's shoes.
She knows that the owners of the league are liberal women.
She knows this.
She knows that all of her teammates are liberal women.
She knows that if she sprinkles a little bit of liberal talking points here and there, maybe she'll get beat up less on the court.
Maybe they'll actually put her on the Olympic team.
When I think of the incentives here, I can't really blame her for starting to have this rhetoric.
Now, does she believe it?
Does she not believe it?
I don't know.
All I can say is the incentives make sense here.
Let's say she has a 20-year career.
That's her plan.
She wants to play in the WNBA for the next 20 years.
And it would make her life 10 times easier if she just sprinkled a little bit of liberalism, pandered a little bit.
And then she gets better spots on teams.
She gets better pay.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
You know, it's easy for me to say, working in media, just say what you believe, right?
I mean, that's easy for me to say.
I mean, I made a career out of saying what I believe, but not everybody's in that position.
And many times people go through life and they have to make a choice.
Say what they believe and get fired from their job, miss out on opportunities, or shut up, pander a little bit, and make more money and have an easier life.
And I think a lot of you guys probably relate to that in the chat.
I'm sure many of you have been in positions where you've wanted to speak your mind, but you know, if you speak your mind, you're going to have consequences.
And, you know, so I'm a little bit more understanding on this.
What do you guys think?
Let me check the chat.
Go along to get along.
No thanks.
Yeah, look at many of you, I'm sure, will just leave the job, F this.
I am not doing corporate America because I'm tired of this BS.
But for every one of you that quit, there's someone that said, you know what, I'm going to pander because I would rather do this than go Uber.
Choices and trade-offs, right?
Make enough money to tell them to suck my diversity.
Yeah, and you know, you see that with celebrities, right?
So celebrities over the years, what they'll do, when they're younger, they'll say, you know what?
I'm not going to comment on politics.
We saw this with, say, LeBron James.
When he was younger, I don't, maybe he did, but as far as I remember, I don't remember him being this political.
But when he got a lot of money and he got really good, he started saying whatever he wanted.
Same thing with Yay.
You know, I think he's gotten more extreme the more F you money he had.
And he could really say what he wanted, you know.
So, um, I need you to fix the thing.
So, I can't particularly, you know, blame her for that.
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Okay, so next on the agenda, I have another guest that is going to come in and speak about the legal system in India.
So, as you guys know, this week I did cover a young man who took his life in India because his wife was taking him, or his ex-wife was taking him to court and abusing the legal system there in order to basically ruin his life.
And he ends up with an hour and a half video detailing all of the abuse.
And he ends up taking his life, releasing the video, and has a long suicide letter saying that he did not wish to commit suicide.
The only reason he committed suicide was because of the court system.
Now, this was much to my surprise because, as far as I knew, or at least at one point, I believed this was more of a Western problem.
But the more I learn about men's rights and men's issues, I see that across the globe, they are discriminated against and having these kind of issues.
So, when I asked on Twitter about experts that I could bring on the show to talk about the issues in the Indian family court system, one of the accounts that I was referred to was the Save the Indian Family Foundation, the largest men's rights NGO invited by Parliament.
And today, we have him on the show.
So, let's bring him up.
It says R-E-A-L-S-I-F-F is the account on Twitter.
Yeah, hi.
Thanks.
Thanks, Paul, for inviting me.
Hi.
Could you tell me a little bit more about your background?
I just have the Twitter handle, maybe we could start with.
Okay.
Well, we created this NGO 20 years back.
Okay.
I joined the movement in 2004.
And in 2005, we created this NGO as a website.
And in fact, we came across immediately, we came across Dr. Warren Parnell's work, Paul Elam, and a lot of American and Western men's activists.
We were all connecting.
And of course, I could meet them only in 2014 in the International Conference on Men's.
My personal background is that I worked in the tech industry.
I was an automotive software designer in Bosch, both in India and Germany.
And I was also working as a manager in Dulet Packard in the RD, the printer department.
Yeah.
So that is my background.
And then, of course, I quit my job and all to join startups.
I mean, I created my own startups, and of course, I started running this organization, Save Indian Family Foundation.
So, how did you get involved?
Was that something you went through personally?
Did you were taken to family?
I went through something personally and I got red filled in getting that reality, what is going on.
And I was shocked what was going on because in those days, there were mandatory arrest laws for domestic violence.
The fans' parents, his siblings, his brothers and sisters, maybe the sisters, minor daughter as well.
Everything, everybody will be thrown in prison on mere one-line or two-line complaint by a woman.
Okay, and that is I'm talking about 2004 or 2005.
Of course, we got it changed.
But here is what you, you know, what I'm explaining here: that you said, right, there is a perception that all this radical stuff and feminism work stuff is only a Western problem, and feminism is really needed in India or maybe China and Africa and Middle Eastern countries.
That is not really true.
And the Western media, 50 years, 50 years.
There are so many fake stories.
And then there are so many think tanks also.
You know, they churn a lot of fake research about India and Southeast Asian countries and all these countries.
And then they use the United Nations to do all kinds of experimentation.
So, for example, there is a big narrative that in India, the women, young women, used to be burnt by their in-laws.
That's a huge narrative.
It was in Oprah in 2001, and they called Bangalore city as the bride-burning capital.
Okay.
But then we found that that entire thing was a hoax.
That entire thing was a lie and a hoax.
So there are so many, so many wrong stuff or false stuff narratives are being built.
And they are continued even now.
Like India is being called the rape capital and all that.
So there's a lot of narrative going on.
And unfortunately, people who are in right-wing or conservative, even they are, you know, they buy it because it is so powerful.
So, the way, could you tell me more about how the legal system works in India?
So, because when I went there like a decade ago, but I didn't know too much about you guys, have different like states.
Is it similar to the US where you have different states?
I like what way it is similar and in what way it is different.
Okay, go ahead.
It is similar to US states.
However, our federal laws are more stronger.
The laws are not state-specific.
Okay.
The family laws are more federally.
The state, whereas in the USA, you go to Florida, you have one set of family laws, and importantly, the other thing is the Indian judges of the Supreme Court retire.
And there is somebody called a Chief Justice.
Okay.
They retire at the age of 65.
And then we don't call the state top courts as a Supreme Court.
Call them high court.
That's the difference.
And so we have a hierarchy like the smaller courts, then a high court at the state level, only one high court per state.
And then we have the Supreme Court.
Okay.
And you can continue appealing.
Even in a matrimonial dispute, you can go to the Supreme Court.
You can go to the Supreme Court for a matrimonial dispute.
Yes, yes, yes.
That's strange, right?
Yeah.
So it's interesting.
You guys have different languages in different states, right?
Isn't that true?
Yeah, because English is common.
Yeah, no.
But you know, India is a predominantly English.
So India is English is an official language.
So its language is not really an issue.
The real problem is we have 50 million pending court cases.
So it will take us a couple of centuries to clear all the pendency of all those cases unless we use something like an AI in a really disruptive way, which I think is unlikely to happen because the system is also highly corrupt.
And we don't have no false divorce.
So a contested divorce can take six to seven years or eight years.
And the alimani, India is by the by the way, India is actually not a patriarchal country or misery, but it is a highly gynocentric country.
That means women and women's women are put at a pedestal.
If you visited India, right, you would see directly, indirectly, women are literally worshipped.
You know, our culture is like that.
Of course, there is a balance, but it is not like completely one-sided.
Now, the narrative often in the society is that if there is a divorce, a woman's life is destroyed.
That is that very traditional kind of a narrative.
That is why they expect the man to pay a huge sum of alimany.
You know, it can be like five to six times his annual income.
You know, imagine that, like five to six years of not savings, it's your annual income.
That's what the demands are made by the society and by the, let's say, social people in the society, the immediate or the courts, right?
Now, how can a man pay five to six times of his income?
Right?
He will take like maybe 20 years to earn that money.
He can't pay, he will be bankrupt, right?
Then the man is told, why don't you tell your parents to sell their properties or something and give us money?
And why don't you get a loan?
Otherwise, they file all these false cases of domestic violence on the man.
So it's basically an industry, false case industry that is run by the lawyers and the judges, judicial system.
And do you guys have the same immunity for judges and prosecutors there that we have in the U.S.?
We have severe levels of immunity.
In fact, it's much more than you know.
I can't criticize a judge, particular judge.
I will get contempt of court.
I will be going to prison for a month.
And then, is that why?
Because one thing, when I first started my show, I would have people come on and argue that, like, India was the country I would hear about the most is they would say they don't have any of these relationship issues because their divorce rate is very, very low.
So is it low because it takes six years to get a divorce?
No, That I will clarify the data because we are doing research for so long.
India's divorce rate is around 6%.
I mean, divorce and separation rate.
Whereas there is a lot of fake stuff that's going on that it's less than 1% because that is 20-year-old data.
Let me tell you, I am 52 right now.
At the age of 30, in my first 30 years of my life, I only knew two people who were divorced.
Okay.
I only knew two people who were divorced for 30 years of my life till the year, let's say, 2001.
So, divorce is a very recent phenomenon.
I mean, last two, three decades, like that.
So, so however, it is rapidly increasing.
Okay.
And I'll tell you, in certain groups or families or regions, divorce rate is as high as 33%.
Okay.
Okay.
So the data is old.
And so you're saying the first half of your life, you only knew two people that got divorced.
Wow.
What was that cultural shift?
That had to have been.
Because I mean, I've seen it in America, but my whole life, you always knew someone that was getting divorced.
So it wasn't.
I can't imagine going through life.
Yeah, go ahead.
You know, you heard of the trad stuff, right?
The traditional.
You heard of the trad stuff, right?
We have lived that life.
We have seen our parents as a prad.
Okay.
So I have lived that life.
You know, I know how it feels.
However, those people in those days, they were not getting divorced.
Not because, you know, the divorce courts, divorce laws were not friendly.
It was not easy to get divorced or go to court.
The other problem was that the man and the woman were financially dependent because you are surviving on each other for money, right?
You don't want to end up destitute.
Okay.
It can happen, right?
So that's how the country becomes more affluent.
You know, people will have more choices.
Yeah.
Got it.
So I'm curious: have dating apps affected India at all?
Has like are people whether it's an arranged marriage or it is a love marriage or a dating marriage, the risk of divorce and separation is equal.
Oh, it is.
Okay.
So can you tell me a little bit more about this case that we've been covering?
So it's received internet.
I mean, I'm covering and I'm in America.
So do you see it being effective?
Like, has it gotten attention in India?
Like, what, like, what has been the ramification of it has got massive attention in print media, TV media, the top TV channels, let's say Republic or India Today and Times.
Now, these are all top TV channels.
And the CNN equivalent, CNN 18, and all that, they all have covered it several days.
So it's like a top story going on for life.
And right now, apply for anticipatory bail, which may get rejected.
But, you know, generally, you know, for men, this is not that stringent and they are quite lenient.
So the consequences for this kind of a woman are not high.
Okay.
And there is one more ironic point.
All the false cases she filed on the on the man, they will continue running against his parents for next couple of years.
Wow.
Because all these false domestic cases are filed on the parents as well.
So their son is dead, but the parents will be running around those courses.
And that's because of the dowry law, right?
There's some lawsuits.
Indian domestic violence law, they consider the whole family, you know, because India used to have a joint family system.
So even India has two domestic violence laws, by the way.
So one is the law related to dowry or cruelty, which was actually before the American domestic violence law.
This law was passed in 1983.
The American domestic violence law, WAWA, was passed in 1994.
So we are ahead of USA.
And then in 2005, India got more Joe Biden-style domestic violence, you know, law, which Joe Biden drafted.
So we have two domestic violence law.
Okay.
One is one, one has restraining orders and all that, which is recent.
But the earlier one, which is more related to dowry and cruelty, which is 1983.
Yeah.
Are you guys seeing the same trends there when it comes to like women not having India?
Okay.
I mean, the age of marriage of women in every decade, it has shifted by four or five years.
So let's say 15 years back, I will be surprised if I hear people marrying after 30.
People used to get married.
I mean, women used to get married around 24, 25.
Now, average woman marries 28, 30, kind of.
So the age of marriage of women is shifting due to a lot of government policies as well, because to control the population, they are encouraging women in this way to, you know, because Indian population, they are trying to control, just like what they did in China.
Okay, well, is there anything else that you think an American audience should know about India or about this case that you think is important?
Yeah, about this case, I would like to say that just half an hour before committing suicide, he tweeted to Elon Musk and Donald Trump.
So he felt that there is some hope for men as long as there is Elon Musk and Trump doing something.
So just imagine in a distant place like India, there are men who are counting on them.
So that tweet is there in the, I will share it.
And he uploaded a video, that entire video in Rumble, because he believed that no, nobody will, there will not be any censorship.
So this censorship issue, free speech issue, and all these are universal.
I mean, that is what we are all facing.
And we were all, you know, banned and shadow banned and deplatformed from many of the social media.
So that's what I can say.
That is the problem is the same, same that we are facing.
You know, one of our Supreme Court Chief Justice, who just retired just now, he said Indian constitution is a feminist document.
He said that.
Needs a what?
A feminist what?
Indian constitution is feminist.
The constitution is feminist.
Wow.
Well, thank you very much.
He was a Harvard educated.
You know, he had a Harvard PhD.
Okay.
So he was completely, he had one leg in the Harvard, always.
So he had the.
That's what we say.
Wow.
Well, thank you very much for coming on.
We'll definitely have you back for different cases.
So thank you very much.
And where can can you tell them where they can find you?
Your YouTube website, whatever?
We have our website, saveindianfamily.org.
That is where most male victims land to get support.
We have Telegram groups and all.
And our Twitter ID is real SIF, Real S-I-F-F.
Real.
It's real, just like Real Dunal Trump and SIFF.
You know, as for San Francisco and I and FF.
Well, thank you so much.
Okay, guys.
So, you know, a lot of times I think that the passport bros can sell dreams.
This is the commonality I've gotten from people across the world is that these issues.
I'm going to react to was I saw an old clip from Jesse Lee Peterson and I just thought it was hilarious.
Oh, I hope.
Oh, I don't know if they'll copyright me.
Dr. Phil.
Okay, guys, I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
But if they pull the stream, I'm going to start another one.
I think they warn you.
I do.
I think they warn you.
He's been tweeting about the Earth's alleged underpopulation crisis.
But should we be concerned?
We've agreed that it's not birth rate that's Kyver, at least, that's for sure.
You think it should be people should qualify and be tested.
You think people should be tested.
You think we should just feed them and let them age out voluntarily.
Right.
I mean, so as a society, I mean, we value freedom and the, you know, reproductive choice is one of those freedoms.
And I think the better approach is to try to educate people so that they're responsible when they have children and they can care for them.
But I mean, I think having the government getting involved in anything like this, I mean, China's done that.
It's a disaster over there.
I completely agree with you about reproductive freedom.
I think that's the most important thing we need today.
Hundreds of millions of couples are denied their right to not procreate.
But you were mentioning how are they denied that right?
They do not have the contraceptive services, reproductive health services that they need.
Those are not provided.
And maybe people should supply their own, but they can't afford it because they're having more offspring that they can't feed.
Where's that?
Just about everywhere.
Try to get a sterilization here in America when you haven't had kids and you're only 22.
That's true.
We're not allowing people to not breathe.
We see people like that all the time, and you can put an IUD in.
A copper IUD is effective for 10 years.
It's inert.
Have you ever worked in a grocery store and seen a lady with a bonnet on her head with eight kids walking behind her?
You think that she's being responsible?
You think that she's really taking into consideration what she's supposed to do responsibly?
You think that she's not on Section 8 housing?
You don't think that we're paying for her to house her kids, who's probably going to grow up and steal my wheels off my car?
I disagree with all this crap that I hear.
I grew up with six brothers and seven sisters at a time when, you know, I grew up on a plantation in Alabama, and we grew up in a little hut house bathroom outside.
And my family raised an amazing family, children.
But what the difference was then that it is now is that you have the father and the mother in the home.
And while the father's out earning a living, the mother was watching over his children.
And so you were able to raise decent children.
We didn't have government in our lives at the time.
And so we were able to do that.
And in America, we were not allowing all these illegal aliens and refugees to come into our country.
So our government were not taking care of folks from other parts of the world and the families in America.
We took care of ourselves.
I think you've pretty much.
I don't know.
Jesse Lee Peterson kills me.
Oh, he's so funny.
I'm going to keep going.
Hold on.
Pissed off everybody.
But you said there's not anything you've heard that you don't think is crap.
So what do you think?
You said what you don't think.
What do you think?
I know that we need to restore the family.
We need a smaller government because government don't make anything work.
They screw you up.
We need to stop taking care of women who are having these babies out of wetlock.
We need to stop taking care of these women who are coming from other countries.
We need to stop taking care of their babies.
But you need to take care of American families first by getting them away from the government and restoring order.
You're a pastor, right?
Yes.
And you're a radio host?
Yes.
Okay.
And you said you believe white people should have more children?
We definitely need white babies.
And I tremble at the idea that white babies, that the white group is going down in numbers.
Because if you lose white folks, America, it's over for America.
Because if you notice, white people tend to be more innovative.
They're more creative.
They have ideas.
Look at her face.
Look at her face.
She's so bad.
Ideas about things.
All these other races don't do nothing but like Dr. Phil doesn't know what to do.
Wait, hold on.
Hold on.
Because if you notice, white people tend to be more innovative.
They're more creative.
They have ideas about things.
All these other races don't do nothing but destroy.
They don't build.
They destroy.
I said you piss off everybody.
I was wrong.
Now you piss off everybody.
Do you have a story or a question?
My favorite thing was just the face of everybody in the room was so mad.
My producer says the face of the white dude was like, what did I do?
I'm just saying, being white's awesome.
We don't, we don't get, I don't, I, he's funny.
He's funny.
Okay, so the next thing I wanted to give you guys an update on.
Yeah, but then they can get to is apparently this woman.
So I got a text this afternoon.
And you guys know the woman I've been telling you about that she had sex with a hundred men.
Now she's looking to have sex with a thousand men.
Well, apparently she was on my show last year.
And mind you, sometimes these panels I really try to block out because they were really exhausting.
But I actually do remember this show.
I don't know why.
I literally forgot about her.
So she must not have been that entertaining.
But this was her on my show a year ago.
Yeah, but then they can get to know the new 22-year-old.
Yeah.
Yeah, but not all guys fancy fresh fucking meat.
Sure, they'll get to know the 40-year-old.
No, you're six years.
Some guys have fetched this for older women.
I'm curious, what do you guys make a month on OnlyFans?
Personally, I don't like to say.
Okay.
Is it over six figures a month?
Yeah.
Okay.
Is it over six figures?
I just said I'm not saying.
Okay, fine.
So did you, you don't want to.
Why does every time I come on a podcast, everyone always asks me, asks that question, don't they?
Because we want to know.
They want to know what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's enough.
I wouldn't do it if it wasn't enough.
He charges more than she does per month.
The brunette charges more than blonde per month.
So if she's working six figures, she's got to be in it, logically.
It depends on like follow-in and stuff like that.
And like, obviously, you do a little bit less than, you know, like that.
It just depends.
I mean, I don't fist my asshole, but if you want to see that, subscribe.
I had enough.
I spoke to enough hookers in a year that I think I'm permanently traumatized.
You know what?
Go to my, go to theaudacitynetwork.com because I did that for you.
I love you guys.
You know, I really like to put on an entertaining show.
But my God, that was a long year of my life.
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Pearl, you got black pilled.
I really did.
I really did.
You know, I'll tell you what.
Because we have this idea that these are special women.
This will never happen to anybody you know.
None of the people in your life.
This is just crazy city behavior.
But most of these women were from small towns and good families.
Lily Phillips, her parents talked to her every day.
She's from an upper class family in England.
And I would just see woman after woman that would be Christian, Muslim, small town, big town.
And yeah, it blackpilled me.
It really did.
Okay.
So next on the agenda, we are going to be reacting to a debate that I saw on YouTube.
And what I noticed is, hold on, guys, I got to get the link.
What I noticed is oftentimes we think there's a big difference between conservative and liberal women.
And I don't really see much of a difference in the two.
And many times we think that there are these special women that are different.
But when it comes to life choices, it's pretty much the same thing.
Let me, where did I get this?
Autumn.
Oh, here.
Okay.
So let me pull.
Okay.
This is the debate I wanted to react to.
Okay.
Know where I'm coming from on this, and I'm very excited for this break.
This is our final episode of season two.
So sit back, relax, and let's dive into one last memory.
Also, for a second, I'm going to react to the YouTube comments.
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Last year first.
Yeah.
So right now I'm a physician, but when my content started and I started being a lot more vocal about feminism, women's rights, kind of that whole sphere, it started because of the Texas SB8, which was the six-week abortion ban.
And I woke up one day as a med student at the time and just like really frustrated and really angry about it.
And TikTok is the place that people go to vent those kinds of opinions.
And so I just was like, you know what?
I have an opinion and I have to say something.
And it was a good outlet.
And that video went viral and I was not expecting it to at all because I didn't have a platform at all.
And so then I kind of just fed off of comments and interaction.
And I was like, well, I have opinions if y'all want to hear them.
And so then it kind of just snowballed.
And now I'm really passionate about being as good as an advocate as I can be.
Awesome.
My name is Isabel Brown.
I am a full-time content creator and I host a live stream every day where we talk about a whole host of issues, not just women's related topics and conversations, but what's going on on TikTok, politics, religion, dating, the whole nine.
And I never expected that this would be something I did for a career.
I too actually was pre-med way back in the day and have a few degrees in biomedical sciences.
In graduate school, more on the public policy side and women in the process.
It's why you're watching women become so controversial in and of itself.
We have a Supreme Court justice in the United States who can't answer the question, what is a woman?
You're watching women's rights advocates claim that the best trajectory for women moving into the future is in fact disintegrating what we would understand women.
Okay, so I want you guys to pay attention.
The non-feminists claim to care about family, but they refuse to take away the incentives or argue about the incentives that are destroying the family.
They'll go back and forth about abortion, the men in the women's locker rooms, all this BS that let's be honest, abortion's going nowhere.
The ladies did that to themselves, the men in the women's locker rooms.
I mean, the ladies, they're the ones who pushed that.
So I don't feel bad at all.
Movements applaud men taking over women's spaces and calling it inclusivity in society rather than what it is, which is just frankly misogyny.
So I wouldn't necessarily identify with the postmodern fourth wave feminist movement we find ourselves in today, but feminism historically has done amazing work for women and truly brought us to the.
Now, the early feminists bombed places.
Specifically, appreciate and would identify with fourth wave feminism because I think it's essential to recognize that we are three white privileged women sitting here having this conversation.
And a really big part of fourth wave feminism is the recognition of intersectionality.
And so, sure, there might not be legal barriers to opportunities to us now, but there are still very much different prejudices and stigmas against women, especially when it comes to being working moms and things like that.
And when it comes to, again, different identities, when it comes to women of color, women in poverty, it's recognizing that they also need to be supported and they also need to be seen.
And when it comes to things like our unpaid wave feminism is really trying to bring awareness to because it's so much easier to ignore.
What do you think about that?
That's an interesting thought.
I'd be curious to know how you are seeing these prejudices continue to exist against women, if in fact they're not legally structurally in place in America today.
How are those manifesting from your point of view?
Yeah, so things like the gender wage gap.
So women are still earning less than men with the same degrees, with the same positions.
Women also get questioned more often when they try to balance work and parenthood, things like that.
When it comes to just the opportunity to do what you want to do with your life, you want to have the same opportunities as men, both financially and from the perspective of just like the societal appearance of what you're choosing, where men have a lot more freedom to not be constrained by gender norms when it comes to their life choices.
If they don't want children or they don't want to be married, a lot of people don't question that.
A lot of people are just like, yeah, that makes sense, you know?
But when a woman chooses that, there's a lot of that sort of stigma behind it of like, oh, well, surely like you'll change your mind.
Surely that's what everyone would want.
And so that's what I mean when I say there's that stigma and there's that pressure pushing against women who want to go outside the traditional gender norms of what we would think women should want for ourselves.
That's so interesting because truthfully, I encounter the exact opposite in spending my time online or on college campuses or with women's organizations.
If anything, I think our postmodern society has built a very strong stigma against traditional gender norms.
You look at every headline in Cosmopolitan Magazine, for example, encouraging women to not have children, to not get married.
So notice the language.
The language is still society's making me do this.
It's almost as if we're children, right?
Well, society's shaming us for choosing this or society's encouraging us to do this.
Nothing's stopping us.
3% of Gen Z women are married.
And Isabella, you know, she just got married in her late 20s.
Again, not wrong, not wrong, not good, not bad, but it's not traditional, right?
To be as promiscuous as possible and never to be committed.
And the other girl, I'm pretty sure she's engaged during a long-term living relationship.
I don't know her as well.
I just know Isabella's because I made a spreadsheet collecting data from conservative women to track if their age of marriage number of kids was any different than liberal.
And it's pretty much, it's the same.
It's the same.
Their personal dating relationships.
The surgeon general of the United States of America a few weeks ago actually issued an official declaration that parenting is theoretically hazardous for your health because it might make you more lonely than if you never had children to begin with, which was an odd train of thought to begin with and not incredibly logical.
So you're watching the establishment media, you're watching establishment healthcare and physicians, you're watching college campuses, your favorite celebrities, Hollywood influencers all strategically peddle this narrative for women that the only way to be an empowered enlightened woman in 2024 is to abandon tradition, to abandon gender norms, to abandon femininity in many ways, and certainly to never get married or have children.
So that is interesting that there is that tug of war still in America, but I certainly think today gender norms are what the stigma happens to be rather than buffing gender.
I wish we could talk less in the abstract and I could get more specifics, right?
Like, what does that mean in real life?
Like, what does that mean in your life?
Like, when were you pushed one way or another?
Who pushed you?
So, okay, let's say it was your school.
Who picked the school?
You don't have to go to college, right?
That's a choice.
I understand maybe under 18, but after 18, it's you're an adult.
For norms.
But it's interesting you bring up the gender wage gap.
You know, this is a conversation we've had for years and years and years in the United States and certainly historically has been true decades and decades and decades ago.
But there have been countless studies proving that the gender pay gap does not exist when you account for different career choices, working full-time versus part-time.
The census data that typically accounts for this 84 cents on the dollar, 84% figure even goes so far as to skew the numbers that teachers, first primary and secondary teachers who are overwhelmingly three quarters female, who work 38 weeks out of the year, they do the math that they work 52 weeks out of the year to make it seem like they're earning substantially less money than men.
But that all is obviously.
So I understand there's a time and a place for data.
I'm not saying I'm trying to be careful with my words.
I'm not saying data is wrong or bad to use.
But when making a point, I always like to use real life examples that other people can think about if they're true or not in their life.
And the challenge we're going to get is she's going to cite a study and it's going to say her point.
And the other woman's going to cite a study and it's going to say her point.
And the challenge with data is a lot of times they get their funding from either traditional conservative organizations.
That's where you get all the Michael Knowles Daily Wire stats that are pushing marriage, right?
Because they're institutes that, again, that's their thing.
They're like Christian organizations.
Then the liberals, they have their left-leaning organizations.
And if you get results that go against your ideology, that's the challenge I have with data, right?
I'm not saying it's bad or good.
We can look at each study, but I prefer to know how it's affected your life, right?
Not true.
It's been proven to be wrong over and over again.
And interestingly, it is statistically dramatically changing because when you look at the careers women are choosing in the norms of 2024, let's look at medicine, for example.
You're a physician, a first-year resident.
Historically, in the 1960s, only 8% of med students were females.
Today, over 50% of medical students are females.
That's terrifying.
That's terrifying.
That's, I'm, I'm not saying medicine's going to go downhill.
I'm not going to say that because I can't.
I'm not, I'm not.
Yeah, so I've actually read the complete opposite studies from the studies that I've read.
Specifically, when people, men and women are in the same role, so a managerial role or a supervising role, women make less than men in the exact same roles.
Same with people who have advanced degrees, so masters or doctorates.
Women who have the same degrees as men will statistically make less money than men with those same degrees.
So we're reading different studies and living in different realities, it seems.
But when I want to really go back to what you were saying about the media and everyone pushing women to not get married and not have children and demonizing this sense of tradition.
And to be clear, I'm pro-choice in all different ways.
And I believe when I see the media pushing these things, I don't see it demonizing the traditional way of life.
I don't see it demonizing, you know, people who want to homeschool or who want to be stay-at-home moms.
I see it as them opening the, you know, opportunities for women to choose what they want to do.
Because historically, women have been told that if you don't want to be a stay-at-home mom, if you don't want to dedicate your entire life and being to your children and family, then you are wrong and you're going to be unhappy.
And so now the media is kind of swinging that pendulum, which, like, admittedly, pendulums swing a little bit too far before they normalize, right?
And I'm not saying I have anything wrong with it, but I think that what the media and what okay, this idea that things are going to swing back is them selling you hope.
And that's a whole business.
It's selling you hope, right?
No.
Usually trends is in the United States, 90% of people were farmers up until the 1900s.
Like it, I actually have it on here.
Hold on.
I pulled this up earlier.
So I don't know what they keep saying that, you know, they supported men's dreams or whatever.
You know, I don't think most of men's dreams was to be a farmer because the day they got the option to not be farmers, a lot of men said, I'm not doing that anymore.
So that's the detail they keep skipping over is that, you know, yes, the women stayed home with the kids, but they had more kids to help on the farm.
So I don't know what like his other option was factory worker and coal miner.
What dreams was he, if he wasn't born into an aristocratic class and or ran for office, what dreams did he have?
Okay, I'm gonna continue here.
What people are really trying to portray is that you do not have to fall into this historical role.
You can date around, you can choose to not get married, you can choose to not have kids, and all of those things are valid.
And for the longest part of history, women were seeing the exact opposite messaging.
We're encouraged to, you know, marry whoever and have kids because that's what makes you happy.
And a lot of our grandmothers and mothers were like, oh, guess what?
It didn't make me happy.
And they're encouraging the younger generation.
Now, this is something that conservatives think is untrue.
When they say, my mother and grandmother told me, or the women of the past weren't as happy as they say, I have to agree with them.
And I'll tell you why.
So when I was doing my shows, I would get people that came from seemingly more traditional countries.
Nigeria was one I could think of.
Zimbabwe is another.
Countries that were a little bit more traditional, say, than the West.
As we saw before, gynocentrism is a problem everywhere.
But one thing that I often heard from the daughters that migrated to the UK, because a lot of immigrants came to the UK in the last like 50 years.
So a lot of them were second generation.
They would tell me that the reason that they chose to go to school and not prioritize marriage was because their mother told them not to.
And I just heard that too many times from women that didn't know each other.
The mothers would be married 30, 40, 50 years, and they would still tell their daughters to wait to get married or not to do it at all.
So what am I supposed to do with that?
I don't know.
I don't think that's like a nice conclusion.
I think a lot more women trashed their husbands than we like to admit, but it kind of lines up with what we're seeing now.
I don't think people of the past were so different than the people of today.
There's just more incentives and choice now.
So, yeah.
Okay, I'm going to keep going.
To make whatever choices make them happy.
Namely, because statistically, even today, married women with children are overwhelmingly self-reporting themselves to be the happiest in society.
We're over-correcting in so many ways for maybe potentially flawed narratives of the past or incomplete narratives of the past.
Now, again, I got to look at choices.
I don't think women are as monogamous as we once thought.
And the reason I think that is because the second that women got to choose non-monogamy, too many women chose it.
You know, if you pull men and women on if waiting till marriage, for example, is important to them, more men rank that as important than women.
So are married women with children the happiest?
Probably, but It doesn't really, I don't think that stat shows fully because you're not taking into account the women that were married and had children and chose to leave, right?
Like the divorcees.
So it's almost like a cheater stat.
I don't know.
I don't know if I'm making sense, but okay.
The past, which we call a pendulum shift, but honestly, it looks a whole lot more like propaganda to me when we're inventing race.
And this is the thing, they both have propaganda.
They both do.
The right and the left, it's equal.
Okay, the left has a little bit more poll.
So, you know, the left has more.
But the right wants men to get married and they want men to fix society because, again, it scares them what they're going to do with all these single women.
And if men don't keep taking bad deals, society will fall apart.
You know, if men are treated poorly by the military, let's say, and enough men say, you know what, I'm not doing this.
That becomes a problem for everybody.
If men say, you know what, I'm not getting married anymore.
Well, that becomes a problem for businesses because women love to spend.
So men make the money, women spend it.
This isn't even discounted because we have TikToks of men and women saying, My money is my money.
His money is our money.
So this isn't even discounted, right?
Then on top of that, politicians need the birth rate to come up.
They don't know what to do.
If men say, you know what, I'm not having kids with these ladies, they're terrified.
So both sides have incentive to lie.
Realities that don't reflect indicative in normal society.
The Family Stability Society, I can't remember the exact group that ran this study, but from 2023, found that 40% of women who are married with children self-report their lives to be incredibly overwhelmingly happy.
Only 22% of unmarried women with children feel the exact same way.
So, well, and the question I have is: at what age?
At what age are they pulling the women?
Because a 25-year-old hot woman, I can't think of anybody on the planet that has a better life.
A 55-year-old ex-hot woman woman, I can't think of anybody else that has a worse life because she had that amazing life and now it's gone forever and she'll never get it back.
It's not really manifesting in society the exact same way that we're seeing overwhelmingly portrayed in these headlines in movies and TV shows and studies conducted by academia and what's said by presidential candidates of the United States.
So it seems to me this isn't so much of a societal pendulum shift as it is an overwhelming narrative that is being pushed onto the next generation to convince them: hey, I know this is what's being proven in society.
This is probably what's going to make you happy.
Just because that's how we've done things in the past, we can never consider that moving into the future because we have to be progressive for the sake of being progressive.
Trust me, we can all use a little support when it comes.
Yeah, you are not plugging your ad on my stream.
Hell no.
We're reading different statistics because, again, I've read many statistics that show that typically mothers and people.
Again, this is why I don't love statistics because they're going to go back and forth.
My stats, your stats, how did you conduct this study?
I prefer good faith conversations about what we've seen in our actual lives.
So, you know, my question is: are your parents married and are they happy?
Did you have friends growing up?
Are they still married and are they happy?
Did they have a relationship that you would want?
Now, does everyone want to answer that honestly on camera?
I don't know.
But yeah, data can be manipulated.
And what generalizations do people, which I can't make on YouTube, can people relate to?
You know, what generalizations can we make?
And people say, oh, I relate with that.
Who give birth are more likely to suffer from mental health conditions than women who do not, because it is more of a stressor.
There's all of that unpaid work, unpaid labor, and unseen mental load that women have to carry.
And we also have to look at the way that these surveys are asked because a lot of times the questions that are asked are asked in a certain way that want to get a certain answer from.
And if you don't believe me, right?
Look at all the traditional conservatives on Twitter begging Lily to find God.
The stuff is biased, right?
Both ways.
But I think, again, when you see progression and you see progressive ideas, you see it as people pushing that idea as the only correct way, where I just view it differently.
I see it as opening up opportunities for people and recognizing that all of these different ways of life are valid.
And again, through history, like historically, women have been given these very narrow options and told.
And when we talk about propaganda, right?
I see that as propaganda.
I see it as propaganda to say that you will not be happy unless you have a family and children, because for a lot of people, that is not true.
And that's also not necessarily a choice.
If you don't meet the right person or you get stuck with the wrong person, you know, it doesn't necessarily mean that you are going to be happy.
And so many of our mothers and grandmothers have told us, this did not make me happy.
It wasn't the marriage itself.
It was the person.
So ensure that you are, you know, aiming for an equal partnership.
And what we found is to be by our dang selves.
I don't make the rules.
I didn't make this world.
Okay.
But all the data, that's what it indicates.
And, you know, make sure that you are choosing your partner wisely because women have not been given that opportunity.
Women have not been encouraged to really make those intentional choices.
It's always been about checking a box instead of living life intentionally.
Yeah.
And look, I think the spectrum of human happiness obviously is a subjective conversation to have.
It depends on the individual.
It certainly depends on one's.
And that's the other thing I don't like is in one day, I could feel happy in the morning and mad at night.
So am I a happy person or an unhappy person?
Like happiness is a feeling.
I don't think it's a state.
So I don't really like studies that use happiness because how do you measure it?
And like, what does that even mean?
Circumstances.
I hope joy is something people continue to choose no matter what their circumstances are, but that speaks more largely to the mental health of our population.
What I do have a problem with is not the expectation that people can make different decisions for their life based on their individual circumstances or their own personal autonomy.
It's this idea that the narrative we are being pushed every single day by the machine, whatever you want to call that, government, healthcare, media, and everything in between, seems to be overwhelmingly convincing you in whatever way, shape, or form, that what we understand to be traditionalism is wrong, that marriage is wrong.
In fact, having children is wrong.
We're sitting here in Los Angeles filming the Los Angeles Times a few weeks ago had a headline saying you are an inherently selfish person if you want to have a child.
And they were making this claim.
Because even now, seems like it's going to get worse, not better.
I don't want to say worse, but like it's going to continue going that way.
There's no data that indicates it's going any other way.
So anybody that's saying that's an option for most people is selling dreams.
That's what they're doing.
And I think it's tough because, you know, it's not something it's tough to accept, right?
Because that's what we've seen on TV.
That's what, you know, we grew up around.
But the world is changing.
Unfortunately, the cat's out of the bottle.
I don't see anything that indicates it's going the other way.
I see zero evidence to indicate it's going to go that way, not this way.
Okay.
Rob said, I can't say there's a certain someone who isn't as bright as men.
Not going to say it.
I can't.
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Rob says, I knew a coal miner that later became a medical transcriber.
I worked with residents and nurses almost continuously.
Specifics are important.
Alexander said the dadvocate in Roma Army said on stream they would be fine with porn stars and OF chicks becoming the teacher of their kids because they wouldn't want to judge a woman based on her sexual history.
Even some of the most based women in the space still have feminist tendencies.
Modern society because it's viewed as the opposite of progressivism.
When in reality, that's just not making people happy.
We're in the midst of the biggest mental health crisis of all time in Western society, certainly within the context of Gen Z.
And for the first time ever, young women are actually struggling with more mental health conditions.
Okay, notice right there.
She took a man's problem and made it about women.
If I Google, who commits suicide more, teenage men or women?
Males die by suicide more frequently.
This discrepancy is known as the gender paradox in suicide.
So again, you have both both women, right?
One's claiming traditionalism, but they make all of the problems that affect men, they make about women.
They completely do it.
So if there's a men's mental health crisis, it's what about women's issues.
And young men.
They are statistically much more likely to be anxious, to be depressed.
The CDC found that in 2021, one in three teenage girls seriously contemplated taking her own life.
I want to see how bad the discrepancy is because male versus female.
Men make up 80% of suicides.
And we're talking about women's mental health.
80% of suicides.
And we're saying, but women have the mental health issues.
It's women, women, women.
Like it drives me nuts.
It drives me crazy.
And it's so.
And I don't, like, she probably just memorizes talking points.
I don't, I don't know how much like in depth, like the stuff she's saying is stuff.
Conservatives really cared about traditionalism.
They would get rid of the systems that punish men for being traditional.
They would.
And that would be their number one issue, but they do not care about it.
They don't because they spend a million hours talking about men and women's sports, abortion, all this white noise that distracts from the real issues because they make money off of women.
So you have to pander and say, oh, but women's mental health, women's, because the female, even conservatives get paid by women.
I'd have a million subscribers on the, you know what, I would have a billion subscribers on the website if I just pandered to women.
You guys are lucky I have integrity because if I Steve Harvey did it, oh my gosh, you would be rich.
You would be rich.
Hard for me to wrestle with this idea that we claim to live in the most progressive society in human history where anything is possible and you can do whatever you want and there are no consequences to your actions and you can make your life brick by brick exactly what you want it to be.
Yet we're devoiding society of purpose and meaning and fulfillment entirely, which is why we end up feeling so lost now.
All right, you go ahead and reply and then I have another question for you guys.
Yeah.
So I actually disagree that we're devoid of purpose because I think the entire purpose of deviating from this idea that motherhood and wifehood are the key identifiers of a woman, I feel like that is what devoids women of purpose.
And this idea that you can achieve whatever you want and you can be whatever you want is the intention of that is to help women find their purpose because so many people had to put their dreams and desires aside to lift up the men in their life.
And now we're saying coal miners and factory workers.
I think by the 1940s, 40% of men were factory workers, but 1800s, at one point, 90% of men were farmers.
I think we see, I think we see things on TV sometimes and we just think all the like a man's life is just easy.
They just put on a suit, go to work, Wolf of Wall Street it.
But they got to stop giving us movies.
They got to, we, we see the movies and we just, we think it's nothing that the men just go to work, don't do anything and get a bunch of money and status.