Dave Smith and Robbie Bernstein dissect a feud with Rep. Dan Crenshaw, critiquing the $8 trillion War on Terror's 4 million global deaths and dismissing Crenshaw's claims as performative offense. They analyze the failed Department of Government Efficiency (Doge) and USAID dismantling, arguing Trump prioritizes legacy over fiscal sanity. The episode concludes by condemning Dave Rubin's intellectual dishonesty regarding Gaza starvation, where Rubin defends Israel despite evidence of blockade-induced famine and ministerial discussions on ethnic cleansing, exposing a dangerous disconnect from reality. [Automatically generated summary]
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Thanksgiving Tradition Chaos00:02:05
What's up, what's up?
Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
It is Thanksgiving Eve as we record this.
Of course, I'm Dave Smith, and of course, he is Robbie the Fire Bernstein.
We got a good episode for you guys today.
Rob, how you feeling?
Doing well.
I already had my first Thanksgiving sandwich yesterday.
They had the where like the roasted chickens are.
They had the roasted turkey.
So I was like, let's go.
Bought that, some bread, some cranberry sauce.
So I'm already filled with Thanksgiving spirit.
I'd imagine this is the holiday that animates you more than any other holiday.
Oh, for sure.
I get to see my family.
I don't have to do Jewish bullshit.
It's a win.
Yeah, just drinking and eating.
There really is like there is a turn where like when you're a little kid, your favorite holiday has always revolved around like presents or like, you know, like something that's fun for little kids.
But when you, as an adult, Thanksgiving beats everything, man.
Thanksgiving.
Sure, you're supposed to be thankful on some level, but really the holiday is just at least, dude, I'll tell you the tradition.
Maybe this sounds fucked up and sexist, but I am fucked up and sexist and I stand by that.
But it was always when I was a kid to now, it's always like the women are like, I mean, right now, my mother-in-law and my wife are upstairs just preparing.
What I would describe, well, they've never been happier.
Literally, they've never been happier.
And I would describe it as a criminally insane amount of food for the amount of people who are coming to like, I mean, I'm like, just from eyeballing it, I think I'm going to have 15 people over at my house tomorrow.
I think there's enough food for 300 people.
Like, it's just a ridiculous, but man, are they anyway?
The point is, though, that it's always just kind of been, to me, the holiday has always just been like, oh, pour yourself a glass of whiskey and sit down and bullshit for a little bit and then sit down to a nice big meal and then have some good leftovers in the fridge for a few days.
Veterans vs. Dumbass Congressmen00:15:43
And what's better than that?
Whoever thought of this one was good.
I'm sorry that some pilgrims had to kill some Indians, but, you know, 100 years later.
I think that from what I understand, Rob, that happened later.
I understand the dinner.
The dinner was very successful.
And then I think in the immediate aftermath, things did go in a genocidal direction, sure.
But that's not like, okay, things happen.
Life is complicated.
It doesn't mean we can't still celebrate that meal.
Although I will, in all seriousness, I mean, not that I'm not being serious about all the stuff I said before, but I do think I do like the idea of a holiday based around thankfulness.
I think that's good.
I think it's very healthy for people to have gratitude and appreciation for the things they have.
I try my best to do that.
I think that's the best inoculation against being a shitty person is being grateful for what you have.
So yeah, hope everybody has a great Thanksgiving.
You're going home, Rob?
But no.
It's easy peasy.
My family does lunch.
I'll be asleep by three, waking back up at 8 p.m. for leftovers.
It's a nice day.
Yeah, love it.
I love the eating early too.
Yeah, every aspect of it's very good.
Now, another thing that I'm thankful for this year is I'm particularly thankful for dumbass congressmen who start Twitter beefs with me and then get ratioed to high holy heaven.
That's got his eye on you.
Well, we all know which one.
All right.
Listen, there's a lot of low-hanging fruit when it comes here.
But as some of you may have seen, completely, I would say, unprompted by me, Dan Crenshaw, the sitting representative out of Texas there, has started attacking me on Twitter.
Now, I will say, I don't, I don't exactly know what the deal with Dan Crenshaw is.
He's a weird guy.
And I'm, you know, like, he's, I think, I think he's got some issues with alcohol is my suspicion.
I mean, there was this.
We're not going to fault him for that, though.
I mean, if we're going to criticize a guy, that's not the thing we're going to go after them for.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
I'm saying handle your fucking booze, dude.
Like, what's wrong with you?
We all drink.
You're the only one making it weird.
Well, no, he had like some incident in Mexico on a congressional trip there, and then he was like banned from congressional international travel for months because he, I forget what it was, I got kicked out of a bar or something like that.
But anyway, which look, you know, honestly, probably of all the things about the guy, that that might be the only thing I kind of like about him.
The rest is pretty bad.
But if you remember this, Rob, and this must have been from like, like, this was a while ago, like four or five years ago.
You remember he used to like, he used to lurk in our comment section?
I don't think that was him.
I think it was.
No, no, no, no.
Dude, it was him.
Brian showed me like you could click on the thing and it was from it was him or someone from his official account would like lurk in our comment section.
And then I also happen to know like some behind the scenes stuff that I shouldn't, but let's just say he's reached out to some people before and been like, you can't have this Dave Smith guy on, blah, And then as a response to that, he, he was, it was proposition that we debate, which he immediately said no to.
So anyway, he's been aware of who I am for a weird amount of time.
Like not just, it kind of makes sense, like maybe over the last year, maybe over the last couple of years, but like before that, he was like aware of me and obviously not a fan as he's, you know, trying to be the John McCain of this generation in the Senate.
But so he came at me on Twitter and I did think that this was actually like, I thought this was something worthy of bringing to the show because it's not just, well, first of all, it's an actual congressman who's like arguing with us here.
So, okay, you're somebody who holds political power.
And then on top of that, like what the way he came at me and then what he was trying to do afterward.
I don't know if you saw any of this, Rob, but he's basically trying to make it that like he he quote tweeted somebody else saying that I was denigrating him for his military service or something like that.
So now the angle that they're trying to go with, which is quite pathetic, is that I was insulting all of the troops when I was insulting Dan Crenshaw, which to be very clear here, I was just insulting Dan Crenshaw, which I refuse to stop doing.
It's amazing how politicians will turn supposedly real men.
I mean, the guy did real service in the military into the bitchiest of tactics of how dare you shame on you.
What you said was offensive.
And clearly that wasn't even your statement.
But even if it was, you can actually just be a dude and have a conversation or take on ideas to go with the just direct to shame on you.
You should be ashamed of yourself and all the feelings of all these individuals that I'm going to speak on behalf of them.
It's like just the most lowly female liberal behavior.
Yes.
If we're going to rank female liberal like annoying behavior, I mean, that's got to be on the top of the list.
It's, it's like on the level of like the most annoying like like chick, you know, um saying the most annoying thing.
And then you go, that's so annoying.
And she goes, oh, it's because I'm a woman.
And you're like, no, it's because you're you.
Like, what are you hiding behind all this nonsense?
And also, anyway, so just I'll just read what was written.
And then I wanted to, you know, make a few points about it.
But so Dan Crenshaw just tweeted at me.
He said, he said, Dave Smith, seriously, this random comedian has gotten way too much attention as a pseudo-intellectual on foreign policy.
We all know Candace has lost it, but don't forget about her co-conspirators.
They're all in on the grift, begging for your engagement on social media.
So again, it's just like you said, just all of them, they all argue like teenage girls.
Like it's just the not one point, not anything of substance, just you're a poo-poo pants is basically what they come at you with.
Like, what are you like, how do you, how does a grown man write this, send it, and not just feel ashamed inside?
It's just very weird.
I did, by the way, it made me laugh that Quinn's response was, he said, if you, if you debate, Dave, I'll donate $5,000 to your favorite charity.
And then he put in parentheses, APEC, which I did.
That is great.
I don't know.
That really made me laugh.
Because APEC is Dan's favorite charity.
It's just, I thought that was good.
So then I said something like, I go, random comedian.
Well, then why is a sitting congressman wasting time talking to a random comedian?
And which he responded, and this to me was, what was it?
So here's his response.
So we could take this apart a little bit, but he said, I waste time addressing you because unfortunately, you have enough people who buy into your nonsense.
Maybe you're funnier than I thought, labeling me a war hawk.
What war did I ever vote for, Dave?
Yeah, I was in college, not a congressman.
Sorry, I just fought and sacrificed in those wars so that grifters like you could sit back and safely build up conspiratorial narratives about all of it.
So Dave DeCamp, by the way, the great Dave DeCamp over at antiwar.com, he did jump on the part about, he's going, I'm not a war hawk.
I don't support wars and pointed out Dan's entire voting record.
He voted for the war in Syria and Yemen and he voted against troops being pulled out.
He voted for, and, you know, of course, Ukraine and Gaza, whatever.
He supported every war he's had the opportunity to support.
But I jumped more on the other point, which I just think that this goes well beyond a petty like beef between me and Dan Crench, which again, like, I don't have a beef with Dan Crench.
Dan Crenshaw has a petty beef with me because I'm against the war party, like, but I don't have a petty beef with him.
He's not even really a very major figure within the war party.
But I do have a real issue with both.
Look, I'd be completely honest with this.
I have an issue with a vet in general who fought in the terror wars saying that these wars protected your freedom.
I mean, how the hell have you not woken up yet to this?
Now, that's not, I'm not like sitting here and trying to like, I'm not blaming the vets.
In fact, I think the argument is very pro-military.
Like the idea is that we don't want your brothers and sisters, mostly brothers, to die for no reason and have their lives ruined and all this shit.
But for Dan Crenshaw, for a sitting member of Congress to still be saying that the reason why I can podcast or the reason why I can, like, I'm safe to do this because of the war on terrorism is, I mean, it's an appalling thing to believe in 2025, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
I mean, first of all, look, the only theater in the war on terrorism, I mean, what are the theaters in the war on terrorism, Rob?
There was Iraq and Afghanistan.
There was Libya, there was Somalia, Syria, Yemen, Pakistan, Niger.
I think I'm missing a couple of the other countries that Libya like spilled into there in Northern Africa, a couple other Northern African countries.
None of them had anything to do with 9-11 except Afghanistan, where Al-Qaeda was housed.
Okay.
That's just not like, and so we took out Al-Qaeda by Christmas of December 2001.
And then we fought a 20-year regime change war against the Taliban.
So in other words, the Taliban never commit.
The Taliban's a bunch of goat herders in Afghanistan.
They were no threat to Americans' freedom.
Saddam Hussein certainly was no threat.
Anyway, the point is, no matter how many people in Iraq, in Libya, in Syria, in Somalia, in Yemen, in Pakistan, how many people you killed there, that had nothing to do with protecting anybody's freedom.
And it's pretty appalling for a sitting member of Congress to like claim that in any meaningful sense, I'm able to podcast in a way I would literally the only thing the war on terrorism has done for me podcasting has given me a bunch of content.
That I'll grant you.
You've given me a bunch of wars to oppose and you've handed me the easy card of winning a million debates because I'm just on the side that's against mass murder for no reason.
Well, that's all that has been affected.
I think if we fought more wars, we could be even more free.
Prove me wrong.
Right.
Prove me wrong that there isn't more freedom available for us.
This is the logic that we're dealing with here with Dan Crenshaw.
So I pointed out, I responded to him and I said, you fought in a catastrophic 20-year regime change war against the Taliban that failed and left a better armed Taliban.
How did that make any American safer to have any opinion?
You know, like what, just give me the logic of this.
And then that's when his response is, so he didn't respond to me again.
Then some other hack on Twitter said, don't attack veterans for fighting wars that they were called to serve.
So that's it.
And then Dan Crenshaw, quote, tweets that and starts going off about how I've revealed what a truly reprehensible person I am for, you know, attacking veterans for serving in wars.
Although, like, again, it's like all these guys, they have to, like, they're, don't get me wrong.
People like Dan Crenshaw are, he's a very unimpressive person.
He is not bright, but he's not this stupid.
Like nobody who is capable of speaking in complete sentences is so stupid that they wouldn't understand that, Rob, the point I was just making, was that attacking a veteran for serving in a war?
No, the critique was claiming that a war protected liberty when it clearly didn't.
By the way, most veterans agree with me on this.
This is like he wants to, he's trying to pull this thing like what a reprehensible person you are because you, you know, you say these wars didn't protect your freedom.
But the thing is, the veterans all know this.
Even back in 2008, 2012, Ron Paul got more money from active duty military than anybody else.
To this day, the veterans are the ones who are against the forever wars as much as any other demographic in this country.
Partly because they actually sacrificed in them, like Dan Crenshaw.
But, you know, he betrays that sacrifice now by trying to get more military members hurt in these stupid wars.
But anyway, I just, so, so right away, I guess the first comment to just make, Rob, is just like, how pathetic, how pathetic.
Isn't that embarrassing?
Just as an American, isn't it embarrassing to have a sitting member of Congress even getting in these Twitter specs, but then also just using the most disingenuous, like bitchy girl fucking tactics.
Get the fuck out of here, dude.
I like the idea of Dan Crenshaw sitting in his basement.
He's got the one lamp up.
He's got all the military plans out.
And he sends out that tweet.
And then you fire back with the wars didn't make us safer.
And he sits there and goes, oh, he fell right into my I'm offended trap.
Yeah, really?
That's it.
That's what you got.
What do you mean, you people?
That's what you've got, Congressman Crenshaw.
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Exposing the Death Cult Lies00:10:37
By the way, another wonderful element of Twitter in all of this is just that this dude, he is just getting ratioed on every goddamn post.
Like every, every post is just people just dunking on him because it's just, it's weird.
Like, you know, when people go out, you know, it's like these, these people like Congressman who like, he's like, you know, protected by armed security every day and he's in his cushy office and he's going and giving speeches.
But then you wander out into Twitter, which is just like the wild, wild west, and you try to bring this bullshit and he's just getting eaten up, which is, you know, a lot of fun.
But anyway, also a lot of fun, but also it is a little bit indicative of just how much the audience is over this bullshit.
But anyway, so he said, now, now he says in this tweet where he quote tweets the other guy, let me read this part.
So he goes, and for Dave Smith, he goes, I'll give you a simple answer about what we got for my sacrifice and the ultimate sacrifices my friends paid.
No more 9-11s.
That's what we got.
Thank you, Dave Smith, for revealing what a truly reprehensible person you are.
And I thought it was simply that Dave was, I'm sorry, I thought it was simply that Dave was uninformed and misguided.
But that response to me below shows his total contempt for all veterans who have served.
Okay, so just, I mean, on the last point, like, obviously, just pathetic, but, you know, let's, let's go a little bit deeper than that.
And I, you know, it's just funny also.
You know, it kind of reminds me of like woke leftists when they would always get offended on behalf of black people.
And you're like, I don't know.
I'm from Brooklyn.
I've met black people and they're not like thin-skinned snowflakes.
One of the best things about black people is that they're not like pussy bitches like you liberal women are.
And say the same thing to Dan Crenshaw here.
Like, you've offended all of us veterans.
Shut up, dude.
I've fucking met veterans.
None of them are snowflake bitches like this.
None of them go, you said the war didn't protect freedom.
I'm offended.
That's not how they are.
You sit around in a room full of veterans, dude, and talk about how all the wars were bullshit and sold off lies.
And you're going to get a lot of people going, yeah.
That's what you're going to get.
There might be a few in there who disagree, but even they're not going to be snowflakes like this.
But I did want to, like, to the broader claim, because I do think this should be responded to on the show.
The claim here, and it is really when you think about it, like it is, I mean, it's, it's the Dick Cheney logic.
You know, it's team B from the CIA logic, right?
So like the logic would be, Rob, if your radar doesn't detect any Soviet submarines, then that means the Soviets have made submarines that can't be detected by radar, right?
Like that's the logic of all of it.
And so it's a similar type of thing where every all the evidence against your position just means your position is right.
There wasn't another 9-11.
It's the COVID vaccine, Rob.
You know, you get the vaccine and then you still get COVID and you get it so bad that you're in the hospital and they go, you would have been dead.
It would have been that plus worse.
Sure, you look at the terror wars and you see nothing positive out of them, but it would have been another 9-11.
I heard that without the terrorists, prices would be even higher.
Right, right.
It's the constant, like corrupt politicians' defense of failed policies across the board.
But I think like even on another level, you could scratch a little bit deeper there and go, well, hold on.
What do you mean by another 9-11?
What is like, what do you mean a 9-11?
Because like theoretically speaking, like when you say another 9-11, I mean the Twin Towers are gone, right?
So you're not talking about planes hitting the Twin Towers again.
You're saying another terrorist attack.
And what's so horrible about terrorist attacks is that innocent people get killed, right?
People die.
And so, okay.
So the war on terrorism, we lost about 7,000 soldiers.
So already it's more than two 9-11s worth of military members who were killed.
Now, of course, that number really gets changed when you factor in the approximately 30,000 U.S. military members who committed suicide in the aftermath of the wars.
So now, like, I'm just saying, like, did you prevent another 9-11 or did you cause many more 9-11s?
Now, if you want to bring in the fact, obviously, this doesn't mean anything to Dan Crenshaw, because all those brown people in those countries aren't people, but the death toll is around 4 million.
And that's what the cost of war project put the number at.
If you go through, like, obviously the big ones are in Iraq, about a million people died.
In Afghanistan, I think it was a couple hundred thousand people died.
You put about 500,000 in Syria, about 500,000 in Yemen.
You factor in the Libya is really where we don't have the best numbers, but I mean, it's got to be how many people died as a result of that thing being turned into a failed state is pretty damn high.
But anyway, the cost of war project, they put it at approximately 4 million.
So again, the point is you didn't avoid another 9-11, you committed a thousand of them.
So right on the, like, what exactly do we mean avoided at 9-11?
Also, there's like the, there's conflations between certain things, right?
So like, let's say hypothetically, there were like, there were a lot of things that were done after 9-11, right, Rob?
But so like, like little things like, you're allowed to have a gun on a plane now.
They lock the cockpit door.
Just locking the cockpit door changes the entire landscape of 9-11.
But like, if you locked the cockpit door and you're like, oh, now it's much harder to hijack planes.
Now there won't be another 9-11.
You didn't need to fight seven wars.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, like, so there might be some things that we've done that might like be like, oh, this will make it more difficult, even if you wanted to count like the TSA or something like that, even though I don't think either of us are going to argue that that does much.
But that has nothing to do with the wars.
Like you have to actually demonstrate how fighting those wars prevented another 9-11, because there's no way you can do that.
Al-Qaeda grew in number.
ISIS formed during the terror wars.
The radical Sunni terrorist problem only got worse as a result of these wars.
And also, Rob, it did come with a price tag to it.
The price tag was about $8 trillion.
Now, is anyone going to say that spending $8 trillion on a failed mission made us more secure?
Was that good for our national security?
In fact, I think many people have argued that the debt is one of our biggest national security threats.
So look, forget the little Twitter spat.
What's really like, what's really revealed here is how disgusting this mentality is.
And I found this kind of interesting because it speaks to like a more general theme on the show.
That is, he's like in this same post, within one post, it's all contained in a tweet.
Dan Crenshaw is talking about what a morally reprehensible person I am.
And then he's also defending wars of aggression and choice that killed millions of people.
And like, man, one of those is bad enough, but to combine the two together and then think that there's anything, like that you have the moral high ground to judge anybody else.
You know, I've seen this over and over again.
Like I just had a thing with one of the Babylon B guys about this, Alex Berenson, of course, who is kind of just sad.
And I don't really want to continue our feud at all, but he came out defending the war in Iraq too.
And it's like, to me, why?
Like somebody's going to have to explain to me why is that not a thousand times worse than the worst things Nick Fuentes has ever said?
Like why, why is it that you guys can sit here and defend mass murder campaigns that were clearly sold off lies?
Like, by the way, Alex Berenson, who shares this, Alex Berenson worked at the New York Times while they were lying us into the war in Iraq.
Now, when he defends the war in Iraq today, is he defending any of those lies?
No, he can't.
They've all been exposed.
But he just goes, Iraq is a better place today than it was in 2002.
I mean, very debatably, very debatably, is it a better place than it was in 2002?
But like in order to get to that place, you had to kill a million people, dislocate like 9 million more, lose thousands of American servicemen, tens of thousands committing suicide in the wake.
Is life better for them?
Is it better for any of their family members?
Oh, yeah, yeah, you just yada yada over the mass murder part and then go, oh, well, I think the result is better than the beginning.
I'm sorry, you are like, you are a worse person than the worst Groyper.
Like, I'm sorry, I'm supposed to be outraged about like sarcasm from young men online, but you guys celebrate you like you bloodthirsty monsters, you celebrate mass killing.
You know, people objected to what Tucker Carlson said when he was on the show and he said that like what animates all of these people is death.
Like they're in this giant death cult, but they are.
They're all in a death cult, man.
They go, oh, Hamas is a death cult.
Coffee Break and Mass Murder00:02:47
Yeah, it is.
You're in one too.
Like this is, you know, in the world of being offended and clutching pearls, well, like, how about that?
How about being offended by defending the mass slaughter of innocent women and children?
That seems to be a good place to start.
I'm offended by that, Dan Crenshaw.
And by the way, I will say, in closing, on the response to Dan Crenshaw, again, like you said, the reason why you're wasting time on a random comedian is because I've got a big following and a whole lot of people are believing my bullshit.
Okay, fine.
So you're posting to try to, you know, expose me or something like that.
So why not come do it, man?
I mean, you chickened out once, but like, why not?
Come on the show.
Let's see how it goes.
Let's see.
You come bring that Dick Cheney bullshit to me and let's see how that works out for you.
Open challenge, Dan Crenshaw.
Now, run and hide, Congressman.
Go back to Capitol Hill because you know you don't want any of that.
Open invite.
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I know how you spent another 9-11.
How's that?
You just don't build buildings so high people want to knock them over.
Simple.
There you go.
Two-story maximum.
That's it.
This is the new normal.
Stick to inconspicuous buildings.
Comey Case Completely Messed Up00:09:06
You know what else you can do is not train foreign terrorists or fun Islamic extremists and call them whatever, the middle ground or what was, what was Obama's thing?
The JV?
No, it was like the medium terrorists, the rational, the what was this?
Oh, the moderate rebels.
Yeah, the moderate rebels.
Quick, quit funding and armoring moderate rebels.
Go listen to the intro of this very show.
Yeah, there you go.
Well, that was, so they were both both those quotes were like in the same thing because when he was pushing the moderate rebel, which by the way, isn't that all that really is one of the funniest government lies ever.
This is when they were starting the dirty war in Syria.
And, or I guess it was a year after they had started the thing.
But where they said essentially that there were like, okay, so we knew that Bashar al-Assad was the leader of Syria, and then they knew that the bin Ladenite headshoppers were amongst the resistance, but then they tried to convince you that there were moderate rebels in the middle who were going to be able to defeat both sides through their moderation.
And then like, just imagine, first of all, like when you're talking about a civil war, I think by definition, anyone who picks up a rifle and jumps into the war can, you can't really call them a moderate anymore, Rob.
And then like, if you were going to say that these moderates are so like you have to make the argument that they're moderate guerrilla fighters who are such like killers that they could take out the Assad government and take out al-Qaeda and ISIS, but they're still moderate.
That's a tough.
So they really try.
And of course, who would be stupid enough to run with that?
The New York Times.
That's who's stupid enough to run with the idea that we have moderate rebels.
So at the same time, when Obama was trying to sell you on the moderate rebels, he referred to ISIS as the JV because he was trying to downplay like the growing threat of ISIS.
So he's like, ah, those guys, little JV guys.
And then they invaded Western Iraq and conquered the thing.
And they didn't seem so JV.
It was a real varsity move that they pulled off when they invaded Iraq.
Okay.
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Okay, so there were a couple other things that I thought were important that we had not discussed yet this week.
One of the major ones is it's one of these stories that I do think is much bigger than the actual story.
But I know you've been following this.
James Comey, all charges dismissed.
What can you even say about this, Rob?
I mean, it seems to me from everything I've read about it, it seems pretty uncontroversial that the story here, at least on the surface of it, not saying there's not more to it, there quite possibly is, but at least on the surface is that the prosecutor completely messed up this thing.
And like all types of like little technical things that are just like that.
Go ahead.
Well, sorry, I didn't mean to, I did interrupt you.
You're right, but you're wrong.
So the prosecutor did make errors and the biggest error was they didn't show the final document to the grand jury and also promised that there was going to be additional bad evidence that they didn't actually present to the grand jury.
That's actually not why it got thrown out.
It got thrown out because both this and the Letitia James case both got thrown out because she was not her status was granted improperly.
And so you need to get like actual congressional approval for these appointees unless they're on a temporary basis.
And she had overstayed the amount of time that would have been like the temporary basis and they just reappointed her anyways.
And so it's very, this is what, from my understanding, so it's very technical.
The judge basically just threw it out as she's, she's not allowed to be in that position.
Both cases can be rebrought.
The Comey case is less likely to be rebrought because it's past the statute of limitations.
The Letitia James one, I think, probably will get rebrought.
So it actually was like, it's just classic Donald Trump being a loser and that they did something in a sloppy fashion and they can't walk away from a victory on the Comey case.
Clearly guilty.
Would have been good to take down someone in the deep state who clearly did Donald Trump wrong, but it's just Donald Trump loser shit that when push comes to shove, they're just kind of sloppy and they don't, they don't execute well.
So in this one, yes, you're 100% right.
The prosecutor did do a bunch of stuff that probably also would have gotten the case thrown out, but that's actually not why it was dismissed.
It was dismissed because of she shouldn't be there to begin with.
Yeah, I think it was actually probably an error by the AG, whatever that lady's name is.
Pam Bondi.
Yeah, it's just mishandled on every level.
And, you know, there's something obviously with Comey, you know, the thing that's bigger about this is that, look, we all watched this.
Okay.
They, when they tried to bury the Epstein story, they immediately pivoted to Russia Gate.
And that's when Tulsi came out with this press conference.
She said, we have the proof that Obama committed treason were her words.
And, you know, I don't think it technically is treason.
And probably the DNI should be real, real precise with the language she's using, but some type of sedition, a seditious conspiracy or something like that.
Now, obviously, Comey is one of the top people involved in the Russiagate hoax.
And I don't even like, no, Donald Trump branded it as the Russia Gate hoax.
You know, I always, for years, me and you, when we covered this, Rob, I always branded it as a deep state-led attempted coup against the sitting U.S. president because I don't, I do think there's something about hoax sounds almost like a little like, oh, you almost got me with that one.
Whereas like a deep state attempted coup sounds more like the constitutional crisis that it really is.
But Comey was look, the key players in it were Obama, Brennan, and Comey.
And then, of course, later, there, you know, McCabe and ultimately Mueller.
And then there were the Strzzok and, you know, all these other like, you know, outside figures.
But like Comey was by far the highest one, the highest ranking one that they ever saw.
Any, I mean, almost nobody has paid anything for Russia gate.
There's the one lawyer at the FBI who did get charged and convicted for misleading the FISA courts.
I don't believe he did any jail time, though.
But everybody else has been fine.
I guess Strzok got fired and whatever.
Yeah, but then they gave him back his pension.
Right, right, right.
So like really no, but so, okay, now Comey, now they weren't going after Comey for Russia Gate exactly.
They weren't charging him with like leading a seditious conspiracy against the president of the United States.
But they did his charge of like leaking classified information was related to the Russiagate thing.
And so it kind of, it seemed like an attempt from the regime to at least throw you from the administration, I should say, to at least throw you something.
Let's say we got to give some red meat to our base.
So let's at least give him Comey.
And then, of course, to watch that whole thing fall apart, it is just like, look, it's like it's another just nail in the coffin of the Trump era, the idea of draining the swamp, all of this stuff.
You know, it's like essentially they were like, okay, I can't drain the swamp, but the best I could do is I could get Comey for you.
Is that okay?
Oh, by the way, we can't even get that.
We can't even in a case where he's dead to rights.
He clearly did what he's accused of, and there still will be no punishment for it.
And the biggest disgrace was at least it was exciting where you're like, all right, maybe we'll start with Comey and they'll go after the other ones, but just sloppy.
They couldn't get it done.
And believe me, after losing this one, I don't know how enthusiastic they're going to be to go after other individuals and lost it in such pathetic fashion.
Didn't even make it to trial.
Like, look at what happened to Donald Trump.
I mean, there was a similar thing that the Atlanta case got thrown out because the prosecutor was spending all the money on her boyfriend so that her boyfriend would then use the money and take her out on trips.
But that still pinned him down for two full years.
Like they brought a bunch of bullshit cases, but they were able to run with it for three years.
Trump's Fraudulent Transition Cuts00:09:16
The Donald Trump people, I mean, they're just bad executors that there's no reason why this couldn't have been brought sooner.
There's no reason that with the crossfire hurricane and everything that happened, they can't go after one person.
And then they bring one lawsuit.
It literally gets thrown out within three weeks.
Now Comey can go hit the media circuit and go, hey, look, I told you I was 100.
Firstly, it's funny because the grounds of the case were not even addressed.
They just didn't assign a prosecutor properly.
Yeah.
And I'll say, I have, you know, who knows what's going to happen, but I have very low confidence that they'll even bring these charges again or that anything.
You know, it's like, it's like with all of these things, at a certain point, you got to admit there is no 4D chess.
There is no plan.
You're just getting nothing.
That's, that's what's actually happening here.
We're all better off admitting that sooner rather than later.
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Okay, let's, you know what?
Let's, what was the other?
I think that's a good transition into Doge being done.
Sure.
Sure.
Yeah.
You're right.
And that is a good transition there.
Yeah.
Doge has officially disbanded, huh?
What a run.
Well, what did we get?
What did we get in terms of cuts?
Nothing.
I love it.
Not a penny.
I saw the headline somewhere from the administration that while Doge is done, the values still live on.
And I'm like, you guys didn't even do anything while it was there.
And you want to talk about one of the early hopes for Donald Trump was Doge.
Like that was one of the actual real hopes for Donald Trump was like, wow, they might get this smart tech billionaire to comb through all the government funds and actually reduce spending.
And then we found out pretty quickly that they weren't doing that.
But then people wanted to say, no, 4D chess, Donald Trump is serious.
No, they're going to do it.
The things will be implemented.
And here you have it within one year.
Firstly, the best case scenario clearly didn't come true.
Donald Trump wants to spend as much as the greatest ever spending more than anyone ever.
He wants to spend more than anyone ever.
He's going to make zero effort whatsoever.
And he had a mandate on that.
People were very excited by let's clean up the spending.
I don't even think they're going after all the supposed NGO funding that the Democrats are basically using against mine and yours interests.
We had a couple of goofy storylines about things that were going to like trans kids in Brazil.
And then I think I actually, I don't know if that stuff got refunded, but a lot of it did get just refunded when they did like the next budget.
But I mean, we're within one year of Donald Trump's presidency and Elon Musk walked away from that project.
And I guess they're formally shutting it down.
So for everyone that gave me shit three months ago, it's like the COVID stuff.
You couldn't have been more wrong.
Donald Trump has absolutely no interest in reducing the size, scope, or spending of our government.
Yeah.
And look, if he did, obviously, as we've said many times, he could have pressured Congress to give him a bill with real spending cuts.
He had all the juice in the world amongst the Republican Party who controlled all of Congress or talking when he first came in earlier this year.
He could have done that.
And instead, you know, I remember, I know I've told this before on the show.
I try to never like, you know, give anything away of private conversations, but I, you know, I told I had dinner with Vivek Ramaswamy.
You know, it was short.
I got a, well, it was the night that John Jones fought Steve Miocic.
So it was, you know, shortly after Trump had won the election and Doge was just getting started.
And I basically had said to him, you know, I said to him over dinner, I was kind of like, well, you know, the thing is that, you know, it's not a real government program.
And I was hoping Vivek would have gotten a position with a little more teeth in it.
You know what I mean?
But I said, hey, well, look, the bright side is that what Doge can do is it can really insert this issue of the unsustainable debt and government spending and all this stuff.
Like you have an opportunity to like popular, popularize this stuff in a way that no one has before.
And so that's pretty cool.
And then he was really, he was like, no, no, no, dude, you don't understand.
We got tricks up our sleeves that these guys haven't thought of yet.
And we got all.
And like, he believed it.
I don't think he was trying to sell me on it.
Of course, I think a few weeks later, he was out.
And then, of course, none of that ended up materializing.
But you're absolutely right, Rob, when you say, look, Donald Trump ran on Doge.
They were actually like talking about creating a depart, a department of efficiency and government, like on the campaign trail with Elon Musk speaking at campaign events.
So there was a bit of a mandate there.
Like it's not like if you didn't talk about anything at all, men you got in and wanted to do it.
Like, no, the people heard that and you won the election.
You had the backing of the people on this issue.
There was such big talk, such big talk about how we're going to cut $2 trillion in the first year and nothing's off limits, including the Pentagon.
And we're going to have, you know, and look, there is Doge is a thing that hadn't been tried before.
It was headed up by the richest guy in the history of the world, who's like this super genius, you know, guy.
And hey, who the hell knows?
You know, he had just bought Twitter and rolled back the old regime in this unbelievable power move that like would have been inconceivable.
Even when he started doing it, you were like, wait, he's got to free up $44 billion.
Like, how the hell could anyone do that?
And then he did it.
So maybe he could pull something off here.
But at the same time, I think we got to be honest with ourselves, you know, it's not even a year later and the whole thing's disbanded.
And the cuts are negative.
The spending has increased.
Not only did they not cut a penny, we didn't even get like we got negative spending cuts.
We got spending increases.
And for now, there probably was some good in the fact that it exposed some stuff that USAID was doing or something like that.
But overall, the mission is a very clear failure.
And that's something we, again, that's something we all got to grapple with because reality has a way of existing, whether you acknowledge it or not.
Just think about how incredible the storyline is: of all right, we got this tech wizard.
His name's Big Balls.
He's going to comb through all the information like nobody ever has.
There's all of this disjointed way that they're doing the budgeting so that no one can track it.
We're in month one and we found massive fraud.
We see money that's just basically being used by the CIA to be sent abroad.
We've got social security fraud.
And then we're not looking into this anymore.
Hey, guys, I know that the government's spending too much money, but guess what?
I might be able to get it under control if we can just find the fraud.
Oh my God, we found so much fraud.
You know what?
We're going to stop looking at that.
Yep.
And look, I mean, that's like you said before, the thing that's been very clear here is that Donald Trump does not, nor has he ever had any real commitment to any type of fiscal sanity or any type or to really ever drain the swamp.
It's just not like Donald Trump.
I think it's pretty clear to say at this point, he is not animated by any of the issues that he ran on.
It's just not really what animates him.
What he is animated by his own greatness and his own legacy.
He tells you that himself over and over again.
And at a certain point, you know, the old, when someone tells you who they are, you should listen thing.
That's essentially who Donald Trump is.
All right.
Let's transition to before we wrap up here, because this was, I thought, was pretty fun.
On that theme, when someone tells you who they are, you should listen.
Rubin on Israel Starvation Claims00:15:28
And Dave Rubin has been telling you that he's an idiot for many years now.
And so you really should listen to him when he tells you that.
Dave Rubin, of course, is a guy who, you know, I'm not a big fan of, and he's not a big fan of mine either.
If you guys remember earlier in the year, I called him out and challenged him to a debate and he accepted publicly and then has dodged, you know, I know that Patrick Bitt David tried to set it up.
I know Piers Morgan tried to set it up.
I think someone else, I think maybe it was Zero Hedge.
I think someone else tried to set it up too.
He's ghosted all of them and not responded to their requests.
So he's not going to do that.
But we did get the next best thing, which is that Piers Morgan, who I would like to think that maybe I've played some role in nudging Piers Morgan in the right direction.
I've sure done his show enough and made a lot of these arguments.
But Piers Morgan sat down with Dave Rubin and they ended up at least a portion of this.
I have not watched more than this clip, which is a little edited up, but I'm assured from a lot of people that Pierce really kicked his ass on this part of the show.
But so here was Dave Rubin and Piers Morgan arguing over Israel's conduct in Gaza.
You acknowledge that there's been no starvation.
Correct.
No.
You don't acknowledge that.
I don't acknowledge that.
Where are the videos and images of the starving Gazans?
I've seen a lot, but you would dismiss them all as fakes.
The UN says there was starvation, but you guys don't believe a word the UN says.
The other official bodies say there was starvation.
You don't want to hear a word they say.
Israel denies everything.
You can say that no Gaza has starved at all.
The reports by almost every official body say the opposite, but you don't believe them.
However, the best way to get to the truth is let journalists who are used to covering war zones, let them go in and do their job, particularly now we have the ceasefire.
There is a reason the Israeli government is not letting the media in.
They are terrified about what the world will uncover.
I just think that's just let them in.
I just think a lot of them look fat.
They have fresh clothes.
I have fresh air images of Palestinians looking hungry.
Yeah.
And you wouldn't dispute with 20,000 plus children per second.
So whose fault is that?
So whose fault is that?
Probably the people who killed them might have something to do with it.
But again, doesn't it just leave you in this, like for people who are trying to be like who attempt to like constantly weaponize being offended?
Is there anything anyone's ever said that's more horrific than this?
Like, and especially, and I'm sorry, Rob, but it is a little bit different if you're talking about something that happened 80 years ago.
Like, you know, they all get so worked up over Holocaust denial or something like that.
But like, even if somebody's denying the Holocaust, they are denying it 80 years later.
Just feels a little bit different than denying it when you can look at the imagery of it.
The way, the way Dave Rubin, and genuinely, look, Dave Rubin's genuinely dumb.
This isn't a guy who reads.
He maybe read the free piece, the free press piece that was like saying, oh, which by the way, it wasn't even saying there's no starvation if you actually read the piece.
It was saying that it's only the kids with pre-existing medical conditions who are really starving the most or something like that.
But he's sitting, he's going to sit there and say, like, I don't know, Rob, you've been on social media for the last two years.
Natalie, I'm sure you've been on social media a bit for the last two years.
I might be on a little bit more chronically than you two are.
How many images of what's going on in Gaza have you seen over the last two years?
Just and Dave Rubin characterizes that as the kids all look fat and happy.
Really?
You don't think it's been a traumatic couple of years for those kids?
Like that's, I mean, just, I don't know what is more disgusting than this.
These people get morally outraged about other people.
It's just too much.
Sorry, go ahead, Rob.
You know, I have had the thought because we've seen images of people post-Holocaust that are human skeletons.
And we even saw pictures of in Yemen when the starvation was going on.
And there were some horrific, horrific pictures there.
I have seen footage from within Gaza where I'm like, some of these people don't look starving.
But then on the same note, we've all clearly seen people getting killed on food lines because they're so hungry, they're willing to be on a food line.
And I think Piers certainly frames it well where he goes, well, every official agency is saying that there's a food problem there.
Why are you saying that there isn't?
And at first he goes, well, that's just outrageous.
And then I guess he basically concedes it and then goes, well, whose fault is it?
Which is basically an admission of, well, then that is a problem in the region.
Right.
Yeah.
It's so it's always interesting of Rubin to delve in and go, like, I'm just saying, if you and I were having the argument of there is no food problem in Gaza, we'd probably have the information on that.
It wouldn't be from a single image.
You would go, oh, actually, there's a blank amount of food available.
Or you might even have a storyline of how much food is available, but has been siphoned off from Hamas.
But it's a little bit interesting to just, I guess, position it as fact that nobody's hungry in the area with nothing to back up that claim and put it on Piers and go, why do you think people are hungry?
And he goes, well, every agency is saying that.
Why do you think otherwise?
And Rubin doesn't really have much of a response.
Yeah, I mean, there was that major piece in Horetz, the Israeli newspaper uh, several months back, three or four months ago um, it's a killing field or something like that was the title where they actually had several IDF soldiers um, who admitted that they were given orders to shoot into the crowd of uh, live ammunition I guess people are on food lines for the television optics.
It makes Israel look bad, so they just line up.
Every day they go out there to get shot at and they don't actually even need the food.
Now, to be clear, this was a regular occurrence.
This was how they were, this is how they were essentially using crowd control.
So they would just fire live rounds at the crowd away from the area where they want them to go.
And the thing is, they're doing this at night and people freak out when you start shooting at them.
And so a whole bunch of people start running in different directions.
A bunch of people got killed.
I mean, it was like hundreds and hundreds of people.
It might have, I think I read 2,000 people.
They said died this way, died from being killed at the food sites.
And yet these people kept coming back.
Like, think about how hungry you'd have to be to go.
Like, imagine you're waiting on a line for a little bit of food and then people start firing rounds of live ammunition at you.
You'd have to really be pretty food insecure to continue showing up on those lines.
Okay.
Also, as Pierce correctly points out, everybody that looks into every body, not one where everybody that looks into this has all concluded that there is starvation in Gaza and has been for quite a while.
So Dave Rubin starts with like, you do accept that there's no starvation.
Like that's only something in your insane Zionist circles that people accept.
Wasn't part of the current peace agreement that Israel had to allow aid back in?
Yes.
Isn't that a United States admission of the fact that I guess aid is needed?
Dude, they had a full blockade for three months where they let nothing through.
And their finance minister, Smotrich, openly bragged that not one grain of wheat will enter Gaza.
And it didn't.
They did it for three months after almost two years of destroying the place.
Yeah, this is totally uncontroversial.
So to him, it's just a hoax that we've been led to believe that there is a food risk in Gaza.
Israel never did nothing.
That's what Dave Rubin is.
I'm going to guess all the buildings are still there too.
Yeah, that's what gay baby thief Dave Rubin would have you believe.
There's just nothing Israel's ever done wrong.
All right, let's keep playing.
The 20,000 plus children have died, right?
So whose whose fault is that?
I mean, you don't honestly think that life for a young Palestinian kid in Gaza in the last two years has been anything but utter healthy.
I do believe the three months blockade earlier this year was a criminal blockade.
I believe it was deliberate starvation of a people, deliberately denying them food and aid.
Has any other country in the history of the world been told to feed the people that no other country have the control that Israel has over?
Which again is a whole separate dude.
By the way, can I just say, but Dave Rubin, what happened with me and him was that Dave Rubin like publicly was just insulting me and like called me a moron and said, I don't know what I'm talking about.
So then I challenged him and I was like, hey, why don't we debate?
We'll see who's a moron and doesn't know what they're talking about.
And then I went, but you're too much of a coward, so you won't do it.
So then he went, I'm not a coward.
I will do it.
And then he just refused to do it.
He played that well.
That was the best way to put like that's that was very wise of Dave Rubin to not show up.
Can you imagine him coming in debating me with it?
Like, this is actually what he's got.
It's like, how pathetic the line of argument goes, oh, well, you expect Israel to feed the people that they're at war with?
We don't really expect that of other people.
By the way, Constantine did try to make this argument to me on trigonometry at one point.
He was a nice guy about it.
So I just said, but like he goes, well, we don't expect Russia to feed Ukraine.
And I went, yeah, but Russia doesn't have a blockade around Ukraine.
There's never been an issue getting aid into Ukraine.
In fact, Ukraine has received more aid over the last three years than any country in the world.
So like, yeah, it's kind of different.
Like, yes, the right.
It is funny because they'll bring this up as if it's like a gotcha.
Oh, see, you have a double standard against Israel.
When actually, Rob, what is it?
It's like, oh, yes, because you've occupied these people for 60 years and you have a full blockade around the country.
That's why there's a responsibility on you.
By the way, not to feed Gaza.
That's not what anyone's asking Israel to do.
What they're asking them to do is allow the international aid through.
The world has sent aid to Gaza.
It's waiting outside of Gaza and the IDF won't let it in.
So I don't know what, again, Dave Rubin doesn't know any of this because he just doesn't know anything, but what a ridiculous defense.
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Yeah, let's keep playing.
Issue, show me another moment in the 75-year conflict where the response has been to kill 60 times as many people.
And where you have a go, well, hang on, let me finish.
Where you have a government with people like Smodrich and Ben Gavir who begin publicly, openly talking about ethnically cleansing all the Palestinians from Gaza, about annexing the West Bank, about taking complete control of all of it to the point that Donald Trump had to step in and say that is not happening.
Random ministers are talking about senior people in the government.
No, no, no, but them talking about things is different.
I mean, literally, I hear that a lot.
Well, my point is this: you have a unique population in Gaza where half of them are under 18.
There is a unique proportion of kids in this part of the world, right?
So at what point do you try and find a different way to resolve this?
The only solution that seemed to be being offered by Netanyahu, Ben Gavir, Smodrich, and the others was to raise Gaza to the floor and to expel all Palestinians.
So no, Netanyahu will annex West Bank tomorrow.
He's been in power for 20-something years.
He could have done it any point.
Notice he hasn't.
I mean, come on.
No, but I, but, well, there's a couple of things here.
I mean, first off, I don't think any country in the world has ever been asked to feed the people that are holding its hostage, right?
Like, would you, has you, have you ever called for any other country to do that or anyone?
Has anyone ever called for that?
British prisoners of war in World War II were fed.
Yeah.
What's the difference?
What?
Prisoners of war in World War II were fed.
So what's the difference?
Because they were holding hostages, they're holding their people.
I mean, to me, it seems that you as a British people.
But you separate the Israeli government, which is a hard-right government.
Smodrich and Ben Gavir are not just right-wing, they're absolute far-right headbangers.
Meaning what?
Meaning what?
They have to do it.
They want to ethnically cleanse the Palestinian people.
It is, it's fun to watch Dave Rubin get destroyed like this.
But it really is also, it just, I don't know.
It just reveals something, man.
It's just like such a, it's, it's amazing how human beings can take such evil positions with such a superficial understanding of like what's going on at all and then just like explain away the word.
I mean, like, it's like, it's so obvious there when you look at it that it's just no matter what it is that they throw at you, you're going to go, okay, I'll explain that away.
Oh, here's Ben Gevir and Smotrich openly saying that their plan is ethnic cleansing.
Oh, random ministers.
Random ministers?
You mean defense and finance?
He said it almost like it was like a random pastor at a church or something like that.
A random minister made that comment.
What?
It's like two of the three most powerful people in the government.
I believe the two most powerful.
I think it's Katz, Ben Gavier, Smotrich, Netanyahu.
Who's more powerful in the government than that?
It's just, you know, no matter what.
Oh, here's all the reports of starvation.
Nah, that ain't true.
Here's all, like, it's just that, like, I, it's a very weird thing to me to be like, as a human being, you could get to a level where you're just defending such blatant evil with no knowledge.
I don't know.
Portland Tickets and Geopolitics Briefing00:01:38
Final word to you, Rob.
Uh, check out Run Your Mouth.
I got Kyle Ansloan coming on today for a full briefing of everything going on: the geopolitics, the supposed end to the Russia-Ukraine war, Venezuela, money being sent to terrorists from Minnesota money, going into all this stuff.
And then live dates out in Denver.
You can go to robbernsteincomedy.com, click the links, but then go with the event brights.
My whole life's retarded and they're listed wrong on my website, and I can't correct it.
But if that's about it, come hang out, enjoy your Thanksgiving, eat some turkey, think of me when you have your sandwich.
It's like we're hanging out.
There you go.
Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
And of course, I'll be off for the month of December from traveling.
The show, of course, will go on.
But 2026, me and Rob will be together on the road.
You already got dates up.
You got Portland up.
You've got Key West.
We're going back there.
That's going to be a blast.
Philly.
Yeah.
Philly.
And then I think there's one other.
Yeah, I think there's a few.
ComicDavesmith.com.
And then there should be a bunch more up within the next week or so.
Thanks for listening, everybody.
Oh, go ahead.
I was just going to say that Philly room rules.
And we sold out all the shows last year.
So don't sleep on your tickets.
Same with Portland.
We did a theater last time, nearly sold that out.
And that was like two years ago.
So don't wait on your tickets for Portland.
And then Key West, if you can take a vacation, that's one of the funnest places in the country to be out roaming around and drinking.
So I do recommend.
We're literally just going back because we had so much fun there last year.