Zohran Mamdani's historic NYC mayoral victory signals a Democratic rebound fueled by voter anger over Trump's inflation, failed tariffs, and costly foreign wars in Gaza, Yemen, Syria, Iran, and Venezuela. Dave Smith and Robbie Bernstein argue this exposes a six-decade conservative failure to counter socialism, noting that even MAGA allies like Joe Rogan are alienated by the administration's direction. While Trump secured border wins, he received an F for economic stagnation, government shutdowns cutting food stamps, and unresolved corruption, warning Republicans must pivot to "America First" domestic fixes or risk losing to figures like AOC. [Automatically generated summary]
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Freedom Fails to Deliver00:12:33
What's up?
What's up, everybody?
Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
I am Dave Smith.
He is Robbie the Fire Bernstein.
How are you this morning, sir, or this afternoon?
I'm doing well.
How are you, my friend?
That was awesome.
Had Tucker on.
Big week.
Oh, yeah.
It was a, well, it was a big show.
It's been a big week.
And of course, I think this is another big show today, Rob, because of course, last night was election night.
And there's so much to say about this.
And there's no one I'd rather sit down and break it down with than you, Rob.
This was, well, I mean, let's start with this.
This was a big moment in American history last night.
You know, that was, first of all, Momdani's victory is a historic victory, no matter how you feel about it.
You know, this is a big deal.
The fact is that we are in a rapidly changing country with rapidly changing political dynamics.
But the fact that an open socialist, a socialist, Muslim, young charismatic guy just became the mayor of the biggest city in America is a very big deal.
So we're going to talk a bunch about that, obviously, and what this means.
Also, the bigger picture of the election, undeniably, was that the Democrats had a good night.
And this wasn't a midterm election.
It wasn't the House and the Senate and a bunch of states on the line.
It was a small off-year election.
However, there were three very big races last night.
There was the gubernatorial races in Virginia and New Jersey.
And there was the mayoral race in the biggest city in the United States of America.
All three of them went the Democrats' way, all three pretty handily.
And that's a good night for the Democrats.
And a good night for the Democrats is a huge story right now.
And, you know, I would argue a concerning one.
But, you know, obviously we give our opinions on this stuff, but just breaking it down as an analyst, the Democrats were a year ago today at the worst place I've ever seen one of the major two political parties in in my lifetime.
I don't think anyone could really argue with that.
There's, I mean, look, I wasn't alive during Watergate, but even during Watergate, man, like they still had a Republican president and they had won 49 out of the 50 states in the previous presidential election.
There's really the humiliation of the Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, you know, disaster in 2024 and the humiliation of Donald Trump having been the person that they launched more arrows at than any other person coming in and beating them again.
The Democratic establishment has been in ruins ever since then.
Their approval ratings have been like 24, 25%, just absolutely doing as bad as a political party could be doing.
And they had a good night last night.
And that's something they desperately needed.
So that's a big deal already.
So yeah, that's the, you know, just the factual, you know, what happened last night.
It was a good night for the Democrats and it was a historic night for Zorhan Mamdani, who is now going to be the mayor of New York City.
And there's a lot in there to break down.
But I don't know.
You can even lead us off here, Rob.
Any thoughts on any of these races last night?
I think there's a lot going on.
Off the bat, I will say that these are all fairly democratic areas.
So I don't know that you would have seen a Republican victory from what I was digging into.
I guess these were outsized Democratic victories.
And the fact that Zoron, an absolute socialist, was able to win is incredibly concerning.
I think what this speaks to more than anything is Donald Trump cannot just Jedi trick go, no inflation, jobs are great.
My policies are great and just keep repeating it over and over and trick people into that everything's amazing.
And we're kind of, I mean, it's still great that on the national level, the Democrats have nearly no bench and they are worse than Donald Trump, but Donald Trump is in every war.
He's trying to get us into more wars.
His tariff policy, at least at the moment, hasn't brought prosperity.
I think it's, I still don't think we've seen the worst of it, but there's nothing he's doing that feels like it's America first.
I mean, we're seeing it more than anything with what's going on with you, Tucker, and everyone else is you guys are just anti-war and the right tries to shame you guys out of the movement as if you don't represent the majority of the country right now.
But I think the Republicans are failing incredibly.
They're getting the blame for the shutdown, which usually the Republicans are the ones shutting it down and they get the blame.
But for some reason, that's not working well for them.
And I think it just speaks that Donald Trump's just lying of it's going to be great is easy when you're on the outside.
But when you're in the inside and you're actually in charge, you're making the decisions and people don't see it being any better.
It doesn't help if you just try and lie to them like Biden and go, no, there is no inflation.
No, there is no problems.
Everything is better.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, look, I mean, there's, and because I want to be reasonable with this, and I have said this before, particularly about the Momdani situation, but let me just reiterate it once again now that he has officially won, even though that seemed like it was clearly going to happen.
And he, you know, he won handily too.
He even beat the spread.
So there's no talk that, oh, that Republican guy is the reason why Cuomo lost.
But Momdani being Momdani being the mayor represents many people's failures, including mine and yours.
Like I'm not absolving us from that.
I'm not accepting that.
I accept zero responsibility for this.
I did everything I could to shame Cuomo.
The fact that that guy came back and the Democrats allowed him to.
No, I more just mean that any of us who have been, you know, arguing for sound economics and free markets and all of this, I feel like, goddamn, you know, I've been on a lot of big platforms over the last few years and I guess I have not convinced enough people.
People took more vaccines and drank more fluoride than you and I could have ever expected.
And, you know, you can only reason with them so much.
Yeah, but I, no, but I'm, I mean, look, I'm being very serious here.
Like I've, I've been, you know, look, obviously we take less responsibility.
We're not as important as, but I just mean that it's us.
It's every other libertarian podcaster.
It's every conservative commentator.
It's every institute and think tank.
It's like, hey, Cato and Mises.
And I mean, the organizations that I love, the Mises Institute, the Libertarian Institute, all of Conservatism Inc, all of the Republican Party.
What a goddamn failure.
You've been trying.
You have been essentially probably nothing has kept the what America, the broadest of broad big tent, conservative right-wing world since the end of World War II.
The thing that has been the lone consensus issue has been anti-communism, anti-socialism.
There was a split between like the cold warriors who wanted to fight communism globally militarily and the more non-interventionist right wingers who thought that that might turn us into too much of a communist country if we go and try to create government programs to fight communism.
But the one thing that united all of them was being opposed to this, being opposed to socialism.
And so if you look at all the 60 years of effort, and at the end of that, the biggest city in the country elects an openly socialist candidate.
I'm just saying that's a, that's a failure on everybody's part.
Like we, we did not make the argument convincingly enough, or making the argument convincingly enough isn't really what it's all about.
And there's some other path.
But that being said, well, look, it also, of course, Mamdani being elected also is a result of the failures of the establishment of the Democratic Party, obviously, right?
It's that the fact that Cuomo was in, was such a was in such a weakened position that he can't, he can't even look at essentially a communist kid and go, get out of here, man.
The adults know what they're doing here.
Like the fact, like, how bad would you have to be to be the son of a governor, the former governor, like a guy who had every advantage in the, he's been in New York City before Mamdani was a, I was going to say a citizen, but that's like not even close before Mamdani was a thought, you know, he's, he's been in the city since before Mamdani was alive.
And he's got, you know, all the connections to the establishment.
I mean, just huge, huge advantages.
But he's got, he's, he did such a bad job that he can't, he couldn't even convince New York voters that like, look, you really want to go with a guy who has no experience, who's been a citizen for five minutes, who's preaching communism?
That's who you want to go with?
You have to fuck up really, really bad for the average person to go over you.
Yes.
You know?
Well, when you put up a guy with a beret and a person who killed people's grandmothers, and then you got to govern New York and you start making it a referendum on having more support for Israel, you're choosing to lose.
Now, as to why this kid came out of nowhere, generated so much excitement and people are so dumb that they're voting for socialism.
I think just, I mean, it speaks to people's stupidity and their belief in government to provide them free stuff and just candidates, even like Donald Trump, that are willing to speak to the working class and go, hey, everyone else is stealing from you.
I'm going to try and make it better.
Well, look, I mean, there's no class.
There's no question.
All of those things are factors.
Now, look, Rob, had they had more time, maybe they could have asked him to visit Israel one more time.
Maybe that would have been enough.
But there was only so many times you could ask him to visit Israel.
And it just none of it, right?
None of it.
So look, there's a failure all around here.
And I'm not even passing the buck.
Like, I'll accept some of the failure here.
God damn.
We really got to convince this next generation that socialism is like not what they want to embrace.
It's going to be a goddamn disaster.
It's guaranteed to be a disaster.
In fact, it will be exactly as disastrous as as much of it is tried.
Like that will be exactly how much of a disaster it is.
But look to the thing, and you got at it right away.
And I think actually we should spend quite a bit more time talking about this.
But the biggest failure, right?
Like in the same sense that like, I'd say, like even the Mises Institute, I'll put some of the blame on, right?
But then obviously who takes so much more of the blame is Conservatism Inc., because you guys actually had all of the backing and all of the budget and all of the numbers and everything and still couldn't deliver this message and still couldn't convince people that freedom beats despotism.
That was the task, by the way, was convincing people that like you getting to be the author of your own script is not preferable to some bureaucrat being the author of your destiny.
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Like anyway, so in that same spirit, look, the Democrats having a good night here.
And yes, Rob, you're right.
These were, well, I mean, you know, look, they were, they were Democrat favored areas.
I don't know if I'd quite say Democratic strongholds outside of New York City.
The previous gubernatorial race in New Jersey was substantially closer than this one.
And Virginia is okay.
Like, I mean, Obama carried Virginia and stuff, but like, it's not, it's not California.
Like, I don't know.
Like, and especially, I got to say, in a year coming off of the humiliation in 2024 and the Democratic Party having an approval rating in the 20s and after COVID and after Joe Biden and after Kamala Harris, I don't know.
Is it that wild to think like, hey, Republicans, if you get your shit together, you could be competitive in Virginia?
Because they weren't competitive.
They got blown out.
And I'm sorry, this is a failure of the Trump administration.
Let's just be honest about this.
And what the hell is the point in not being honest about that?
And Rob, you know, I think you, you laid out a lot of the things there for sure.
I mean, look, let's just say it like this.
Donald Trump came into his second term.
He's about a year in, right?
A little short of a year in his second term.
He came into it with his record high approval ratings, the highest approval ratings he had ever had.
Donald Trump had, in what was kind of an unthinkable way just a couple years earlier, Donald Trump had flipped everything around.
He had won the day.
He had taken back the culture.
He had taken back the moment.
He had his highest approval ratings.
UFC heavyweight champions are doing the Trump dance after they win.
He's with Rogan and he's with Theo Vaughn and Andrew Schultz.
And he's like recaptured this thing.
He has his best electoral performance by far of the three times he's run, gets the most votes, finally wins the popular vote, wins every single swing state, wins the House, wins the Senate, has the Supreme Court, you know, perfectly.
And now, less than a year later, this party that was in the dumps has a solid night outperforming where they had been in these states in the last few years.
And Donald Trump is right back to his approval ratings being in the gutter.
I mean, this whole thing, look, and look to your point, I don't think obviously we're all somewhat tempted to kind of like put our own to, as everybody in this world is, you're always kind of tempted to seek confirmation bias and to find out that the answer here is that I was already right about all of this stuff.
But I'm sorry, if you're just trying to like, if you're looking for just sober analysis here, right?
All three of the big three races from last night, which is the governor of Virginia, the governor of New Jersey, and the mayor of New York City, all three of them, the winning candidates, centered their campaign around the unaffordability crisis.
All of them.
In other words, Rob, it's still about the same thing that it was always about, which is the economy.
And more specifically, that the price of everything is outrageously high.
It's still, and so essentially, for all the other, for all the other distractions, Donald Trump could sit here and try to spin it in whatever way he wants to about how wonderful everything's going.
But the truth is that, you know, the CPI says, what, we were like a little over 3% or something like that year to date.
It's like, okay.
So what that means to the regular person is that all the pain of the Biden inflation plus more, plus more, things are more expensive now than they were during the worst of the crisis of the Biden administration, right?
So that essentially, now they, the government, of course, because, you know, they have government math and DC economists, and they'll try to spin this in a million different ways.
But what it actually means, right?
Like as we always say, right?
The CPI is like, which forget the way that's calculated, but prices in general, it's, it's the increase in price is like gaining weight.
It's not, oh, well, it went up by 4% last year, but 3% this year.
So we're down 1%.
No, it's not.
We're up.
We're up 7%, or actually more than that, if you do the compound math, whatever.
But that the point is that things are worse.
The same crisis is still there, but is even worse now.
And guess what?
Nobody, I'm not even saying that people have been like completely persuaded by our arguments on foreign policy, although more and more of them certainly have been.
But like, no matter how much you want to brag about bombing Yemen or toppling the Syrian government or backing Israel as they attempt to kill every last man, woman, and child in Gaza or bombing Iran's nuclear facilities or bombing, you know, boats off the coast of Venezuela, any of this shit.
What has that done for America?
Any of it?
You know, like all of this investment, the right wing being totally split over all of these fights over foreign wars.
None of this is doing anything for the America first agenda.
None of this is doing anything for making life better for Americans.
And what, look, by and large, you can just look at this stuff.
The tariff policy has been incoherent and frankly somewhat unhinged.
Like, I don't know what to say.
Like, and there's a lot of just like the bullshit is back and there's a lot of talk about all these different things.
There's a lot of, you know, interviews where he's calling someone fake news or doing whatever.
But like when it comes down to it, on the issues that really matter, the American people are not seeing some night and day difference.
They're not essentially, you had a golden opportunity, but you really haven't delivered that much.
And look, though, even the one area where Donald Trump really has delivered the most, undeniably, is the border and the border being under control.
But mass deportations haven't happened.
There's been a lot of noise about them, but they really haven't happened.
And I guess, and maybe this is somewhat unfair, but I think in a lot of ways, people, while people are glad that the flow of migrants isn't what it used to be.
Now we're just living with the results of all those millions of people coming in under Joe Biden.
And it's not as if they're being removed.
So we're just accepting that like, okay, that happened to us and this is our country now.
That's the best we can do is like, okay, I got the bleeding to stop, but you're going to have to live with the wound.
Okay, that's not like the best sell.
The fundamentals of the economy are exactly the same, Rob.
All of the problems, like, I mean, the major fundamental economic problems are all the same.
We're debasing our currency to continue to essentially, what, monetize the debt at a snail's pace or something like that, essentially just slowly destroying our currency to deal with the fact that we have a government that's way too big for us to be able to afford it.
We're still getting involved in all these foreign conflicts.
We still, you know, like just all the fundamental problems are still there.
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And at the end of the day, when people are going to vote, the fact that Bobby Kennedy told us to stop taking Tylenol just isn't that great of a win, man.
Like, what are we really, what do we really have here?
And so for all of the people, because it really is, this is a like I'm somebody, you know, I was talking about this with Tucker, Rob, but like so many of say like the more establishment Republican types who like, you know, they really want to whatever, cancel Tucker or get people like me to just go away.
And they're like, no, the real concern is the Democrats.
You guys are always picking on the Republicans, but the real concern is the Democrats.
Unlike them, I think I actually believe that a lot more.
I'm very concerned about the Democrats actually getting back in power on a national level.
But take a look at if you are really concerned about that, then last night should be a big wake-up call for you.
This party was so down and so out and so fucking stupid and talentless and destructive.
And you allowed them back into the game.
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That's a fucking failure, if anything is a failure.
And just speaking about allowing them back in the game, of course, Donald Trump has the absolute worst way to deal with this, which is he wants to get rid of the filibuster because he's now into the mindset of, hey, the Democrats are going to come back unless we can strong arm them.
And I don't think Donald Trump's just strongarming policies is exactly that favorable with the American people.
I think that's what gets him the pushback of the no kings protest.
It's what, you know, not that I care about what liberal media has to say, but I'm just saying if you're trying to win over the moderates and your preach is that, you know, you can make things better and that you can govern, and then your only way to try and enact your policies is trying to just ram it down everyone's throats while claiming that it's going to save us and that it's wonderful and that it's great.
And we're not seeing any of this pay off yet while you just continue to spend money, not just on current wars, but escalating other foreign wars.
I don't know.
It just seems like such a train wreck.
And speaking to your point of like, if you don't want to lose to the Democrats, you got to, you got to ramp down on your foreign policy stuff and start actually fixing the economy.
And part of that is not having government spend as much as it is as you're trying to increase spending.
Yeah.
No, I mean, that's right.
That's right.
And look, it's interesting in a way, too, because right, you do see there is, as you, you mentioned, like you mentioned this earlier.
And I guess particularly on this show, given what our last episode was to this episode, it's hard to not talk about this.
But I'm not saying that this accounts for like 100% or even like a huge percent of what happened last night, but just on the optics alone, the fact that there's like a like kind of a civil war on the right.
And then at the culmination of that week, the Democrats have this success.
That is something that's hard to not look at.
And of course, and I suppose with some level of like surface plausibility, both sides of this divide on the right can blame the other one for it.
Hey, if you just got on board with me, we wouldn't be divided.
You know what I mean?
And we'd be united against the enemy or something like that.
But of course, you could do that from either side.
It's the same way as like which, you know, they Momdani ended up winning by enough that it wasn't, it didn't come down to this argument.
But you know that so many people, Cuomo supporters were saying this Republican guy should drop out.
Then the Republican guy is saying, hey, I'm the Republican.
You lost the primary.
You should drop out.
You know, again, for the same, at the same point, Momdani could have dropped out and endorsed Cuomo and then he'd be the mayor now.
But like, whatever, it's, that's not exactly, you know, you could look at it from any perspective.
But to me, and I think there's a reasonable point here to be made, let's almost examine all of these cases.
I mean, is it true?
Let's just say that Tucker and me and Candace and Nick Fuentes or for everyone, let's just say everyone on our side, we had just shut up and gotten on board with the Trump agenda.
You know, we didn't like it under Biden, but as soon as Trump came in and started, you know, back in Israel's war against Gaza, we were on board and we didn't criticize them for bombing the Houthis and we didn't criticize them for bombing Iran or any of these things.
And we were like, let's go get Venezuela.
Let's just say we were totally on board with him.
Does anybody really believe that like that would have moved the needle or something that like the people in these blue or purple states would have been like, well, all right, Tucker Carlson's not complaining about the wars.
So let's go vote for Trump.
Or would the realities on the ground be exactly the same as the realities on the ground right now?
I think that that question pretty obviously answers itself.
And I would just say, like, look, at this point, again, if you think about who, like, I don't know, I mean, I don't know.
I guess maybe someone could check me on this, but I think of the biggest right-wing political commentators right now, I think it's, I think Fuentes might be in the top three with Tucker and Candace right now, like the ones who are doing the biggest numbers on their shows.
And the goal of the GOP coalition is to what?
Cancel all three of them.
Like, like, maybe I'm wrong about that.
Maybe they're three of the top five or three of the top four or something like that, but they're about as big as anybody.
And you want to cancel all of that.
You want to kick out all the votes.
And then, you know, when you get down to whatever us and, you know, like there's a lot of other people, like you're talking about like picking a battle with like a huge, huge portion of the constituency here.
And then I would also, you know, just like, let's say, let's say you are one of those guys who's just like, look, what's important?
Cause if you think about that, um, that whole conference thing that me and Tucker were talking about with all the worst people speaking there, their whole thing was saying Trump is not MAGA.
And they're like, hey, MAGA is going to, you know, be ruined by this.
And their argument would be something like, hey, you know, Tucker, you know, gave two softball of an interview to Nick Fuentes and that Nick Fuentes is a neo-Nazi and therefore regular people are going to be turned off by this.
This is going to fracture our coalition.
And if we really want the MAGA agenda of whatever, restoring economic health and strong borders and blah, blah, blah, whatever, then we need to get those guys out of here.
It's like, all right.
Well, even if you have that attitude and probably more so if you have the Matt Walsh attitude, where he's like, I don't even care about this right-wing infighting.
I just want us to all fight the left together.
If you want, but if you want the MAGA agenda, right?
Well, you got to admit that at least part of this, the way that Donald Trump was able to win the way he won in 2024, like what was different than the years where he lost the popular vote and the year where he lost the election in 2020 and all the legitimacy of that election questions aside.
But there's no question that like 2016 was like a coin flip.
Like he, you know, it was like a few thousand votes in key districts that ended up winning him the presidency against Hillary Clinton.
Joe Biden was, he did, you know, it was much, much close.
This year he won the popular vote.
He won every swing state.
Well, what made that?
What was the difference there?
Well, okay, a big part of it was that, you know, look, use the comedy guys as an example.
He didn't have fucking Rogan and Theo and Schultz and all these guys, those type of guys endorsing him last time.
He had all of them this time.
And think about that.
How do they all feel about Donald Trump now compared to a year ago?
Not as good.
You know, I mean, I don't know.
I don't know like exactly.
I know that they've all at different points.
I've heard Rogan say, this isn't, and I'm not saying anything privately.
I'm just saying what we've all like on their shows, what they say publicly.
I've heard Rogan say, fuck, this isn't what I voted for.
Fuck, that's not what I want to do.
Well, this makes no sense.
I've heard Theo be like, say to the vice president, but like we're back in a genocide still.
Like, I don't know.
I was kind of against all that.
I've heard Schultz say, this is the opposite of what I voted for.
I've heard, and what is it?
Why is it, right, that Donald Trump was really popular, even amongst on this show?
Like, I ended up supporting him.
Why is it that Donald Trump was so much more popular in all these circles a year ago until today?
Why is it?
It's the wars.
It's Israel.
That's why.
There's a price to going all in on continuing Joe Biden's policy of funding the genocide of the Palestinians.
There's a price.
You lost all these guys over that.
So even the, even those people in the MAGA agenda, again, Rob, it all comes back to like what it always comes back to.
It's like, which, which one do you care about more?
And people say it's like, oh, you're making it all about Israel or all about the Jews or something like that, which is retarded.
It's like, no, dude, it's all about empire, right?
That's what the whole thing is always about.
It's republic versus the empire.
That's what it's always about.
It's like this is, it's liberty versus tyranny.
You know, it's the people versus the rulers.
It's the empire versus the republic.
And part of supporting Israel right now requires the empire to continue.
It's not the only thing, but it's a big one.
And so like essentially, like in a sense, the choice was, do we want to have this MAGA coalition win or would we rather make sure we get Israel all the weapons it needs?
And it seems to me that the choice was made.
And I don't think you could say that this is me making it about, you know, what I want it to be about or seeking my confirmation bias, but you explained to me why Theo Vaughn isn't big on Trump today and he was a year ago.
What do you think it's over?
You know, it's like everybody, it's like fucking when you listen, I said this to Tucker the other day, but when you listen to Mark Levin talk at his goddamn festival, you would think everything except the destruction of Gaza has been a major factor in what, how people act about Israel.
Why, you know, like you're Mark Levin, Rob.
I go, why is anti-Semitism rising?
Yeah, it was Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, liars.
Oh, okay.
Why?
Why are the liars resonating with everybody?
Qatari money is coming in here.
You know, it's everything else.
It's everything except you guys just committed a genocide in 4K and forced me to pay for it.
Everything except that.
And so the idea that you can go, oh, we'll just keep doing that and funding that policy and also keep the MAGA coalition together.
Well, maybe you can only have one.
Let's see which one a lot of people would choose.
Anyway, any other thoughts, Rob?
I think people really care about things starting to be better here.
And if you're spending money across the globe and you're picking fights and you're funding these wars, it's not going to be better.
And speaking now to this lie about that Venezuela is over drugs, you know how you can bring down fentanyl use in this country is if you get some jobs for all these people.
I bet if they could have good jobs, I bet a lot of these people wouldn't actually be on fentanyl.
And, you know, it's like, what, you're going to spend more money on these wars?
You're just going to keep alienating other countries.
You're going to on off with tariffs, trade deals.
How many small businesses have been crushed from this stuff?
And just speaking, like, I think the wars are partly that people don't like them.
And then I think they also just don't like, why are we spending all these money, all this money in other places?
Can we just focus on getting this country cleaned up?
And I think there's just a lot of throw the bastards out.
Kamala Harris and Biden could not have been any worse.
And so everyone's like, we can't have that.
And so Trump had a free permission slip to kind of go and do whatever he wanted to do.
And thus far, what he's done is continued all the wars, stirred up a lot of drama on tariffs, continuously told us best, greatest, and like it doesn't matter what the hell he says at this point.
If it's not better, nobody gives a shit.
And when are these tariff jobs coming in?
All the tariffs that you did, when are there going to be lines around the block for factory jobs?
What, 20 years from now?
When people actually build the factories, when is that happening?
So I think just between, listen, I think all these areas that won might have actually have gone to Kamala Harris.
These were Democratic areas, but I think the extent of the victory showcases an outrage with Donald Trump.
And I think to the extent that he just continues like everything is great, they will get crushed in the midterms.
Yeah.
Well, I think that I think that's right.
And no, I mean, look, again, I'm not even saying that like, well, look, obviously a Republican winning the mayor in the mayoral race in New York City.
No, that's happened before, but like it was going to be a long shot under current dynamics.
Obviously, Jersey's a blue state.
You'd think Virginia should be a competitive state for the Republicans at this point.
But I'm talking about more like there's the trend that even against, look, okay, New York City, again, just to New York City had a Republican mayor up until what's his name?
Goddamn awful worst mayor in New York City history.
Up until de Blasio, it had been Republican mostly for a stretch there.
I think Bloomberg left the Republican Party and became an independent at one point, but he won as a Republican.
Giuliani obviously was a Republican.
Now, look, obviously it's going to be a lot harder for a Republican to win today than it was for Bloomberg.
But Rob, I mean, running against Cuomo and Momdani, the Republican put up 6% last night.
I mean, a truly pathetic showing, pathetic.
The candidate for Jersey, he was the same guy who ran last time, did substantially worse this time than the last time he ran.
And in Virginia, again, it was like a 25-point smackdown.
Like there was not even a competitive race in what just objectively should be a competitive state for Republicans.
And frankly, I'll say, given how bad the Democrats have been, it's just state the Republicans should win.
And so, no, it does, it shows something.
And again, you know, to your point, there are just these fundamentals on the ground.
And the fundamental problem that we have in America is that the economy is a completely rigged game rigged against the working people on behalf of the powerful.
And this is now, you know, when Momdani or when socialists talk about this, again, it's almost like, you know, it's like Mark Levin talking about why there's this rise in anti-Israel sentiment.
Like it could be everything except the obvious thing.
That's why it is.
All you got to do is talk to anyone about anti-Israel sentiment who has it, and they'll explain to you very quickly what it is.
But we're going to pretend it's anything except that.
And so in the same way that Mamdani and or Bernie Sanders, whenever they get at it, it'll always be like, you know, the top 1% have so much and everybody else has so little.
And you go, okay, well, why is that?
Because the greed of the top 1% of the, it's like, okay, but how do they facilitate that through their greed?
Well, you know, they lobby Congress and blah, blah, blah.
It's like, okay, they lobby Congress to do what?
And then maybe they'll get into something to be like, oh, they cut their taxes.
But then now we're down to a math question.
Do tax cuts explain the transfer in wealth?
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Let's look at it.
Oh, no, it doesn't even kind of come close to it.
Now, does it?
Where were the big transfers of wealth from the working and middle class to the okay?
It was after the bailouts of 2008.
And it was after the lockdowns and the bailouts, right?
So look, the fundamental problem here is that you got a government in Washington, D.C. that spends about $7 trillion a year.
It's $7 trillion a year that's yanked out of the real economy and given to cronies.
And then the entire rest of the economy is this kind of Wall Street casino system that's all run off low interest rates and fiat currency.
What has Donald Trump done to solve any of those issues, Rob?
Has Donald Trump even pretended to grapple with one of them?
Oh, what's he done?
Oh, he's increased it.
He's increased government spending and asking for more.
And so, so look, it's just like the fundamentals on the ground are like, we have to reject empire and reject big government in order to fix any of these.
And Donald Trump isn't even prepared to even rhetorically do that.
So, yeah, you could sit there and keep talking about how when you decided to change the tariffs because Canada said something about a Palestinian state, that that was really a brilliant economic move or something, but nobody's seeing it.
Nobody's seeing it.
The problem is still the same problem.
It's unaffordability.
This is how Democrats are, you know, labeling it.
But what is that, Rob, other than just saying the same thing we've been saying, except just for 20 years instead of for six months, which is that you're destroying the currency.
That's the way someone who understands economics would put unaffordability.
You're debasing your currency.
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Things aren't actually, you know, yeah, go ahead.
And the Republicans have a bit of a conceptual problem of combating socialism as they want to spend more money, as they want lower interest rates, and as they're pushing for more socialized medicine, more Medicaid access.
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Like they've kind of just given up the entire argument.
So if it's just the game of your joke of, oh, I'll make minimum wage 20, I'll make it 40.
Hey, I'll make things free.
I'll make more things free.
So the Republicans are not winning a conceptual battle about why socialism isn't good all the way down to Donald Trump's central planning of trying to bring you more U.S. manufacturing jobs.
So, you know, if the Republican Party kind of stands for more central planning and you got another guy who's telling you, hey, I can make even more things free.
It's a tough argument to win.
Yes, because the argument is now between central planning or central planning for you.
You know, I mean, like, that's the only difference now.
Now it's going like, hey, the government will go do a bunch of shit.
And they're going, the government will do a bunch of shit, one of which will be paying your subway fare.
Oh, okay.
Well, I like that one because at least I get my subway fare paid for.
You know, and I do think that all of, look, all of these things, like even like, say, like the Epstein stuff.
Now, I'm not saying that obviously the, you know, I don't think most, I think most voters vote over inflation much more than they vote over Epstein.
You know, like the price of your health care and your groceries and immigration and, you know, schooling and stuff like this are much more important to most people than Epstein.
But think about something like Epstein.
Think about how much damage that did to lose Trump so much energy and favor with so much of the, you know what I mean?
Like the people.
It sends a heavy signal that Donald Trump is not cleaning up corruption.
And I think people are aware of the fact that corruption is why they don't have the economic opportunity that they're looking for.
And so once again, that cedes more area to the socialists who I don't think most voters are so much bought into the philosophy of socialism or that they prefer socialism.
They just go, this is a rig game and this guy's promising to steal stuff from me.
Yeah.
It's like Robinhood almost.
Right.
Well, right.
Well, at least like, at least they're address he's addressing a concern that might be one of their concerns.
And, you know, like as Tucker Carlson said on our last episode, and I think he's absolutely right about this, the thing here, and I guess what is really the tragedy to some degree in all of this is that a true America first message could be a really big tent.
This is a message that can win you national office.
This is a message that could actually win you huge swaths of the left as well as the right in America.
Just like the starting point being that it's like, hey, the role of the U.S. government ought to be what's best for the American people, period.
And not what's best for the world, not what's best for other countries.
Now that if you had a real message that was just like, hey, like we are not wasting resources on foreign wars of choice that we do not have to fight and we are not going to have a wide open border and we are not going to continue debasing our currency and we are not like a thing like that could have huge mass support.
But the reason and look among so many of the people who amongst the Trump supporting Zionists, so many of them almost would get on board with that, except we got to support Israel.
We saw almost so many of them got on board with it up to Ukraine, Rob.
They were still even riding with Ukraine, but Israel, it's a whole different story.
We can't not support them for the exact same reasons that I just argued we'd not support Ukraine because we can't afford to.
And I mean, look, you got, you just think about the promises, right?
Of so many of the promises.
I don't know why I always see, it's kind of like, it's kind of like the Alex Jones was right phenomenon.
You know, you see all the times that people say Alex Jones was right.
And it's like, well, what about all the times he was wrong?
And they're like, we're not going to get into all that.
You know, I always see the promises kept.
That's a big thing Trump supporters like to put promises kept.
You're like, okay, what about all the ones that were broken?
You know, I mean, I'm sorry.
I remember he said he was going to end the Ukraine war on day one.
No, look, we all knew that was a little bit of a goofy promise, but like, okay, whether it's his fault or not, didn't deliver on that.
You know, Epstein files didn't deliver on that.
What was all this, all this Kash Patel stuff?
You remember all the stuff Kash Patel promised, Rob?
I don't remember any of them being, we're going to bring down Chauncey Bills.
Okay.
And I'm like, oh, that's great.
There was a betting ring in the NBA.
Okay.
I'm really glad we got to the bottom of that one.
And you can only just not deliver on so much before people will recognize that.
And I also do think that, You know, I think, I think that Trump's kind of cult of personality and Trump's charisma and just the, you know, included in that charisma is how goddamn entertaining Donald Trump is, how funny Donald Trump is, how much, how much funnier he made the whole political circus and all this theater.
I think that is fading to some degree.
And I think that, you know, at a certain point, it's like people were so furious with the establishment.
And then they loved that the thing that they could throw Donald Trump at them, the biggest middle finger to the establishment.
And you could watch as he made them so angry.
And I think that was so satisfying for so many people, you know?
And I'm listening, I'm still an immature, angry teenager at heart.
I still have these, you know, I said on the last podcast and I meant it when I said it, that I go like, you know, that Ben Shapiro was calling Ron Paul a vicious anti-Semite.
And I was like, good, now you get Nick Fuentes.
You know, like it just makes you like root for vengeance against that person.
And that's all good and fun.
But I think as time goes on and as it gets a little bit less new and fresh and more kind of played out, people, you know, what's still there is that people were furious at the establishment to begin with for reasons, not just because they felt that way.
There were reasons and none of those reasons have act, like none of that's actually been solved.
You know, and this is something I would say almost like maybe like almost like as a message to other people who do what we do, like to the other political commentators.
And I bring this up, I swear, I'm really not bringing this up just to be like petty or to brag about me or something like that.
But I saw, and I just saw this, was it yesterday or earlier today?
But so I had gone on, I went on Steven Crowder's show about a week ago.
And I don't know if you saw any of that, but so I went on and I argued with Steven Crowder.
And look, I mean, I just personally, I thought it was just like, I thought it was kind of dumb.
As soon as it was over, I was like, well, that was a waste of time.
It was just kind of stupid.
I thought it was very bad faith and kind of just like low IQ on his part.
Like it was, it felt like a, it was like an MSNBC kind of gotcha style.
Like he basically just kept harping the whole time on how I called for Trump's impeachment and I had said Donald Trump's a war criminal.
So that was like the whole thing.
So well, you say Donald Trump's a war criminal.
I don't say Donald Trump's a war criminal.
Oh, it sounds like you like Obama more than you like Donald Trump.
Like that was just the angle to go at me with.
And I don't know.
I just, you know, it kind of, it felt like the Josh Hammer debate a lot where I go, I guess that's the best argument you have.
I guess the best job Josh Hammer could start with is be like, hey, everyone here, you like Trump, right?
And then they go, yeah.
You go, this guy doesn't like Trump.
I do like Trump.
You don't like Trump.
And I actually did call Crowder out at one point for it, where I just went, I was like, you know, all you guys, all you neocons always like are trying to, you know, Ben Shapiro names me for the first time ever only after I call for Trump's impeachment because you're all trying to be like, oh, look, this guy is against Trump because now you think you can like win the social psychology of the argument or whatever.
And I did point out that all of you neocons were the original never Trumpers.
At one point, I asked Crowder, I was like, who'd you support in the primary in 2016?
And he was like, Carly Fiorone or whatever.
It's like, okay.
So like, whatever.
But I was just making the point, you know, and I argued with him on all the topics.
And I was like, yeah, dude, I'm not here to just kiss Trump's ass, you know?
And I guess when I was done with it, I was just like, oh, that was kind of stupid.
And then someone, a friend of mine was like, dude, have you seen the comment section?
And I hadn't.
And I just went onto the YouTube.
And it's on Steven Crowder's channel.
He's got five or six million subscribers on his YouTube channel.
It's like, he's one of the biggest online conservative commentators of the last 10 years for sure.
And I mean, dude, he's just getting eviscerated in his own comments.
Like even Steven Crowder's audience is like, dude, we're not just blindly supporting Trump anymore.
Like actually, this guy had an argument and all you had was, but you're not Team Trump.
All I'm saying is I think people should, I don't bring any of that up to, you know, whatever.
Who cares?
It was like a dumb segment on a show.
The point is just that it almost reminded me of even like going to Charlie Kirk's event and the crowd is so much more on my side than they are on Josh Hammer's side or going into Crowder's audience and even the crowd there is just like, no, dude, like we're like a major thing is changing here, you know, and just doing the old tribal partisan bullshit is not going to like, that's not going to be enough to meet this moment.
In other words, it's the point is, in other words, it's not good enough to just fall in line with the Republicans.
You got to actually have something that you stand for.
You have to actually believe in something and you have to actually have something that you could tell people.
Like, no, this is what the problem is.
This is the crisis you're facing, right?
And here's the solution for said crisis.
And so if we just fall in line with the Republicans, that doesn't mean, oh, now we have this big tent MAGA coalition.
That means you're going to lose for sure.
Like you have to actually be for an America first agenda or you're going to lose.
And that is something we should worry about because, man, we don't want to live through President AOC.
Now, do we, Rob?
I don't know how people on the right can't be getting sick of Donald Trump's most wonderful, greatest, never, no one's ever seen.
And then, you know, doesn't pull through on anything.
Can't ever give a reason, can't ever explain where he's coming from.
And I don't know how anyone can't just be sick of that shenanigans.
No, I completely agree.
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Handing Off to Next Candidate00:04:49
And just, yeah, you know, and just the erratic kind of nature of it and the incoherence.
And, you know, again, Donald Trump, you know, he'll go down as a monumentally consequential figure in history, one way or the other.
And I think perhaps Donald Trump was just like a necessary thing for this country.
It was a thing to like break up the matrix.
And he was like a one-man trustbuster.
Like he was just shattering monopolies in every sense, you know, like who had a monopoly on information, who had a monopoly on the news, who had a monopoly on education, who had a monopoly on your own mind.
Like just he shattered a lot of things.
He provoked a reaction out of the establishment that probably no one else ever could have.
But he had these fundamental core promises to Donald Trump.
And look, obviously, we're only, we're not even a year into his second term now.
We'll see what happens going forward.
But there's really no, we've gotten almost five years of him being president now.
And in terms of being hilarious, in terms of trolling the media, you know, he gets like an A plus.
I give him an A, in terms of sealing up the border in his second administration, I'd give him an A.
But on his major, you know, when they say promises kept, well, like the major fundamental problems were like, or excuse me, the major fundamental promises were like, we're going to drain the swamp and I'm going to deliver winning.
And he gets an F on both of those.
I mean, what the swamp is as swampy as ever.
And everybody who knows, everybody who ever knew that a swamp existed knows that even if you just arrest Bolton and Comey, that doesn't actually clean up anything.
Right.
And in terms of winning, I mean, he his last administration, he left us with Anthony Fauci and the year of lockdowns.
And this administration is leaving us with higher spending, more war, more wars on the precipice, evidently, and a higher cost of everything than the last guy had.
That's going to be very tough to hand off to the next candidate.
And, you know, as far as like the whole split over the last week on the right, you know, I just think it's interesting.
Obviously, I always argue from the position of what I think is right and what I think is best for the country and what I think is the correct policy.
But if they even just want to have this fight over what's popular, it's like, well, look, man, I mean, we're not going to have a figure like Donald Trump to take on the Democrats in 2028.
It's not going to be the guy who was the most famous man who ever lived, who's the most like charismatic and just kind of alpha male who just sucks all the energy out of the room and becomes the focus of everyone's attention, who's got billions of dollars in the bank.
That's not going to be the next candidate.
There is no one else like that.
It's going to be somebody, whether it's JD Vance or, you know, God willing, if it was Thomas Massey or if it was Vivek Ramaswamy or if it was any of the, this is going to be somebody who's never put together a national winning coalition like this before.
Now, they could do that on a true America first message.
They could put together that coalition that carries the hardcore Trump base and gets people like us and Rogan and Theo Vaughan and Tucker Carlson and all these guys, right?
Like you could put together something where all of those people are on board, or you could run on neocon policies, which are been universally rejected by the American people that no one's for.
And that is obviously the path to hand the election to the Democrats.
And I'm sorry, but like that, it seems to me like it's pretty stark.
That is the choice here.
You can either get on board with an America First agenda or we can lose to the Democrats.
I, I don't see any way that we win without that.
I'll give the final word to you Rob, and then let's wrap up.
Uh yeah, Trump's got some problems lurking because uh apparently, I mean, he somewhat attributed this loss to the fact that the government shut down.
Slashing Government Spending00:02:02
Uh, they got a nice little hostage situation going in that.
Uh, the services that are already not being offered are things like people's food stamps, it's healthcare going up, and then it's like even services that I use.
Apparently, there's a lot of delays at the airport.
He had to get a financial, he had to get a private individual just to pay military salaries.
Uh, it's incredible to not be slashing other government spending and fixing the budget so you can find the money for these things.
That would be the last things you think government would cut.
Like, if you came down to the last billion dollars in government and decided where it was going, or the last 10 or 20, whatever 100 billion dollars, these would not be the first things anyone who's with a rational mind would be slashing.
I, i'm not saying I agree with food benefits.
No, of course, i'm just saying if I had to decide what I was taking away, it's not the first thing on my list of things i'm taking from people.
Uh, he's also got the Epstein storylines lurking and that uh people in Congress were trying to look uh, look into that, and then he almost got lucky with the shutdown.
Um, and then, of course, just the fact that he's looking to increase spending overall and uh, looking to ramp up some of these wars, uh, conversations about tomahawk missiles in the Ukraine, conversations about, I guess, an invasion of Venezuela not sure what the plan is there uh, supposed see ceasefire in Israel that's still standing, and an Iran war being over, while they're also saying that they're going back to nuclear facilities.
So anyways, you know what the solution is.
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