Joe Biden and Donald Trump dominate the discussion as Dave Smith and Robbie Bernstein analyze the CNN debate agreement, noting Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s exclusion to avoid highlighting third-party viability. They critique the International Criminal Court's indictment of Benjamin Netanyahu for shattering illusions of legal immunity while condemning Israel's potential ethnic cleansing in Gaza. The hosts dismantle Bill Maher's defense of Biden's cognitive decline, comparing public denial to "The Emperor's New Clothes" and arguing that prioritizing election outcomes over truth perpetuates evil, ultimately asserting Biden must not run again due to lost public faith. [Automatically generated summary]
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War Crimes and Anti-Semitism00:14:48
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Oh, hello.
What's up, everybody?
Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
I am Dave Smith.
He is Robbie the Fire Bernstein.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing well.
How are you?
You're back on the road.
Look at you.
Comfy chairs and everything.
No, no, no, no.
This is just a different wing of my house that you've never seen before.
I've always, I love art like this.
That's not just something you'd find at a hotel.
Looks classy.
It is, but I'm in a nice hotel.
It almost looks like you're an old lady with like the salon hat thing going.
Yeah, a little bit.
There's something about like fucking shit they do in hotels that they just wouldn't do any.
Like no one would ever buy this.
Oh my God, the fact that you have to walk around like Raiders of the Lost Ark with a torch and find every light bulb in a hotel room just to not even be able to see, just to have dim lighting.
Just give me a light switch like every other place in the world.
Well, it's nice during the day.
They have like its big windows and stuff.
So it's like, but at night, yeah, it's like every single lamp, like a little button on this and this.
And you have to turn every one of them on to have like it somewhat reasonably lit in the room.
And then when you go to bed, you got to go around and turn every single thing off.
It's the most infuriating thing.
When you're drunk at night and you can't see anything and you keep like overturning the thing, like fucking just go, go.
And then yes, it's a difficult, it's a difficult life, but somebody's got to live it.
Yes, I'm out.
I'm out in Austin, Texas.
By the time you're hearing this, the news is probably broke.
I was back on the Joe Rogan experience, which is just always so much fun.
I really just can't say enough good things about old Joey Rogues.
Always love sitting down and talking with him.
And I did shows.
I got a couple more shows tonight and tomorrow night at the Mothership.
It's just the best comedy club in the fucking world.
So I'm having a lot of fun out here.
And a convention.
And then I get, I'm not even going home.
I'm going straight from here to Washington, D.C. because we got our shows on Thursday and then the convention Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
So yeah, it's going to be, it's quite a week between I had the Tucker Carlson.
I had hinted at the beginning of the month that I had some big things in the works, but it all kind of this week hit like the Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan.
We got the Libertarian National Convention with Trump and RFK and Vake Ramaswamy.
And then to close out this wild month on the last day of the month on the 31st, I will be debating Chris Cuomo on Patrick Bett David's show.
So I'm probably most excited about that one, to be honest, of all of them.
They're all pretty cool, but I'm pretty excited for what that's going to be.
I think it's going to be a cool moment for all of us who, you know, opposed the insanity.
But anyway, so all of this coming up in very short order.
I'm excited to meet up with you in DC on Thursday.
Anything else you got coming up, Rob, that you want to pull?
First porch tour was magical.
Go to porchtour.com for all the dates.
It was a great hang.
We were drinking on the lawn until 1.30 in the morning.
It was a blast.
So come hang out.
Awesome, dude.
Yeah, I heard, I saw on social media a bunch of people were saying it was a great time.
Very cool.
Make sure, if you can, go catch the summer porch tour.
People say it's a magical experience.
And that's, or at least that's how they describe it.
Everyone should visit Torch at least once.
All right.
So there's some things going on.
I guess maybe why don't we just open with, since I was talking about this a bunch on Rogan's podcast and every time after I do that show, we get a bunch of people who come over here from that show.
So I guess we could open up talking about pretty significant news, which literally, of course, I feel like this always happens.
This has happened several times to me before, where I literally, when I leave the Joe Rogan experience studios and I get in my car, headed back to the hotel, I turn my phone back on because it had it in airplane mode for however long it is, you know, and you lose all sense of time in that studio.
But so that I saw literally, of course, after the show, the big news that the International Criminal Court released indictments for Benjamin Netanyahu.
They also did for several Hamas members.
But that's not breaking news.
Yeah, there's nothing like, right, there's nothing like crazy about that.
But the idea that the longest serving prime minister in Israeli history is now like wanted for war crimes.
And of course, this is all just to be clear here.
Me and Rob are not globalists.
We are libertarians and we don't believe in any of this.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't believe in any of this like global governance nonsense because it is all nonsense.
It's all fake.
None of it's real.
And one of the most, one of the most basic rules of understanding how politics actually works is to understand this very simple truth.
And this is not, to be clear, this is not an ideological claim.
This isn't something that libertarians believe or something left wingers believe or something right-wingers believe.
This is just it's just objectively true.
And you just have to understand this if you want to really understand the way the world works is that when you get to the highest levels of power, there's no such thing as law.
Okay.
And that's just a reality.
It's, it's, it doesn't exist.
It's all an illusion.
And the entire world order that was created after World War II was all just to give the illusion that we have a rules-based liberal world order now.
But of course, none of that's true.
And so anyway, my point is, this isn't going to like, don't expect to see Netanyahu hauled off in handcuffs anytime soon.
But it is pretty remarkable that I mean, me and you, Rob, we're both Jews.
And I think even if we did not grow up being super political, but there's something really almost just kind of hard to even believe that you would ever think you would like listen to that statement out loud that the longest serving prime minister of Israel is wanted for war crimes.
It's just, it's such a, it represents such a turning in the popular understanding of what's happening.
Yeah.
Well, I'm not familiar with the International Criminal Court.
I'd never heard of it till this past week.
But the entire optics of Netanyahu going, well, it's just, it's the anti-Semitism.
It's proof of the anti-Semitism in the world.
I don't think that that line really works.
And they usually are always playing this confidence game of nobody's asking that.
No one's saying that or everyone's getting vaccinated.
It's always kind of the confidence game.
So this does really, even the fact that there's such an accusation and the court felt comfortable putting it forward, it does kind of shatter the illusion that he, that the head of Israel couldn't be doing something immortal, that it's not even possible.
And that it already starts to put more evidence into the general view of the fact that there were probably horrible things and decisions that have been made that were, you know, towards the civilians of the people of Gaza.
And I don't know that he's going to forever be able to control the internet and not have people see that story.
Yeah, I mean, I do think that there's no question that Israel, you think about it like this, right?
So Israel was created in 1948.
That was the year of the creation of the state of Israel.
And if you think about that, this was, you know, three years after World War II ended.
And so the Holocaust was three years earlier.
You know, the UN partition plan was in 1947.
It was two years after the Holocaust.
Okay.
Like, think about it in the sense of it would be like us talking about vaccine mandates or something like that.
It was that recent.
It just happened a couple of years ago.
And so there was no question about it.
There was tremendous like feeling on the part of the world that this group of people had been so mistreated and it's really horrible what happened to them and they kind of deserve something for that.
And now, of course, this came at the, it was determined that the Palestinians were to pay the price, which is kind of insane because they didn't do anything.
And even if someone says like, oh, they, you know, we're allied with Hitler.
It's like, yeah, okay.
But without the Palestinians having any involvement with Adolf Hitler, the Holocaust happens exactly the same way.
They were not in any sense responsible for it.
But, you know, we're in the year 2024 now.
It's not 1948 anymore.
I mean, like, this is 80 years ago.
I'm 41 and I was born 40 years after the Holocaust.
Like I'm a, I'm not a, I'm not a young man.
I'm like a middle-aged dad and I was born 40 years after the Holocaust.
And there does seem to be this attempt throughout this whole thing by Netanyahu and his supporters to kind of, you know, be playing this card of like, how could you possibly say the Jews are the ones committing a genocide?
We're the victims of genocide, you know?
But I do think you just get to a certain point where you're like, yeah, like that's not a get out of jail free card.
Yes, 80 years ago, you guys were the victims, but now is a different time than then.
And it is, look, it's wild to see it unfold.
And, you know, I'm sure that me and you both have certain feelings where like, as a Jewish person, I don't love, I don't like any of this.
I don't like that the association now in people's minds is that the Jews are the ones perpetrating a genocide.
And again, I don't, as I've said many times, I said on Rogan yesterday, I don't care about the term genocide.
I'm not going to get into an argument about semantics.
I don't care what you call it, but it is, I think the more time that's gone on, the more your initial claim about this war has borne to be exactly correct, which is that you just can't get away with this anymore.
You can't get away with it.
People see what's going on and it's so inexcusable that it's like people are up in arms over it.
I really do think that's a bad, like, even though that's like the most simplest, the simplistic explanation, that's kind of what the whole thing is.
People see this and there's just too much pressure on them to not want to be a part of it.
Yeah.
Well, I don't think Netanyahu is going to, how dare you his way out of this one.
Yeah, I just don't, it seems impossible.
It also one of the things that is eerily similar about this military campaign in Gaza to all of the terror wars.
So basically every war in my lifetime.
And I shouldn't even say every war in my lifetime because there are other, you know, like I think the war in Serbia in the 90s, there was a pretty clear goal, which was to remove Milosevic.
They didn't end up doing that in the war.
They were able to do it with a colored revolution in the year 2000 after the war, but there was at least a goal, an end goal.
There seems to be much like with Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and Syria, there just seems to be no clear defined goal.
I mean, he'll say it's the elimination of Hamas, but then all of the intelligence is like, well, that's not achievable.
And in fact, I was just reading the other day more reports of Hamas popping back up in the areas that Israel has already attacked.
And like, this isn't happening.
But no, there's been Benjamin Netanyahu has been talking out of all sides of his mouth when he talks about what is to be done with Gaza after this.
You know, like they basically, he's ruled out the idea that they can have a state.
They cannot have their own state.
That's the whole point of everything Benjamin Netanyahu's ever done is that the Palestinians don't get a state.
He said that Hamas obviously can't be in charge of it.
He said Israel is going to be the decision makers going forward.
So does that mean Israel is going to, you know, like traditionally occupy it the way it does the West Bank, the way it did Gaza before 2005?
And then he's like floated out all of these trial balloons of maybe we ethnically cleanse the place.
Maybe everybody else helps us ethnically cleanse the place.
And, you know, he waffles on that.
He goes back and forth.
But it does seem that ultimately that's probably the most attractive option to Israel is to just kick them all out.
I don't think he's going to be able to get away with that without it obviously being seen for what it is.
You can't, you know, you can dress up ethnic cleansing no matter in any way you want to, but it's going to be pretty obvious to most of the world that it's like, oh, no, that's what you're doing.
The Apartheid Option00:03:06
Yeah.
You know, the crazy thing about, and I know I've talked about the history of all this a lot, so I won't like get too into detail here, but the crazy thing is that the Palestinians have given up 80%.
You know, the original UN partition recommendation recommended 54% or 56%, can't remember, to for a Jewish state, and then the remaining 44% for a Palestinian state.
And the Palestinians rejected that and for good reason, because they were like, oh, that's not fair.
What are you talking about?
Jews owned like 10% of the land at the time and they were a minority.
And like, why?
Why should they get half or more than half?
And then after the 48 war, the Jews took well more than the 50 plus percent.
They took like 78%.
And then after the 67 war, they took 100%.
And basically the Palestinians are like, can we just have our 22%?
Now, I'm not saying everyone's like that.
There's some Hamas people who are like, no, river to the sea and stuff like that.
But for the most part, the international conversation has always been about that.
And there's just, there is simply zero, there's zero rational argument for Israel being entitled to Gaza.
No one's debating that that should be part of the Jewish state.
Even they won't say that out loud.
I mean, they will say it out loud amongst each other, but they won't say it out loud to the international community.
And so it's like, how are you going to get away with this?
They're trapped in this really, really difficult predicament where like, so, okay, you know, this is what John Mearsheimer was just saying.
I just listened to an interview with him where he was like, basically, and, you know, he's a, he's a part, he's the dean of the realist school on foreign policy, which is not something that I subscribe to, but is an interesting way of looking at the world.
Like, it's like, forget like your notions of how you think the world ideally should run.
We have to look at how the world actually runs and work within those parameters.
And he was just like, listen, the thing about ethnic cleansing is it's the solution to apartheid.
You know, like if you're in an apartheid regime and giving full citizenship and rights to the group of people who are denied them is not an option, well, then what solves that problem?
You kick them the fuck out.
That's the answer.
And so that might be what he is building toward.
I don't think there's any way he gets away with it.
No, and I don't remember the guy's name, but that like head general dude who dresses like Johnny Cash said that he's resigning if Netanyahu doesn't state his plan for post-war, I think, in the next two weeks.
Yeah.
Yeah, which will be interesting.
And I don't think he's going to get that because the truth is I don't think there is a plan.
And I don't think he, he can't state the plan as ethnic cleansing, right?
A Crazy Year in 202000:13:11
Like he can't just say that.
Wouldn't it be funny if he said that?
And then the guy was like, okay, I'll keep my job.
All right.
I laid out my parameters.
He gave me his.
Yeah.
Anyway, it's it's all pretty wild.
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Okay, so the other thing, which I don't think, let's switch gears here, that I don't think we've discussed on the show yet is that it looks like it's official that there will be a presidential debate.
Yeah, I got that one wrong.
I'll state it.
You see, that's how you do this job well.
Just right up front, you go, hey, got that one wrong.
I will, I, okay, so I like the spirit of what you're saying, Rob.
Um, but I will tell you, I think you might be a little premature.
Ooh, all right.
Well, I'm just saying.
Well, I got something wrong then.
Well, I think, yeah, you got that wrong.
No, listen, I'm just, I'm just saying, I'm not saying you were right in your initial prediction.
I'm just saying you haven't been proven wrong yet.
They're saying it's going to happen.
There's, you know, Joe Biden basically put out a call out video of Donald Trump.
Make my day pump.
Yeah.
Anytime, anywhere.
Yeah, he's still, he still did go with like all of Joe Biden's like point of references.
He's like, I got to appeal to the young people.
Maybe do a Clint Eastwood type thing.
Clint Eastwood's 103.
What are you talking about?
Anyway, but Donald Trump accepted.
It looks like they're going to do a CNN debate.
It looks like Bobby Kennedy will not be allowed in this debate, which is not surprising.
I don't think, you know, it's like a funny thing where just everybody involved is incentivized to not have Bobby Kennedy in there.
Like all parties, right?
I mean, like, who, I'm saying, like, look, if you believe in democracy or truth or anything like that, then of course you'd be like, no, there's a third party candidate who's got millions of people who support him and clearly he should be in there too.
But if you're, who are the parties involved here?
It's Joe Biden, Donald Trump, and CNN.
Who amongst them is incentivized to have Bobby Kennedy in the debate?
It just makes all of them look bad.
All of them.
I mean, if you're Donald Trump, you're like, no, dude, I got a one-on-one against a senile old man.
I'll take that one-on-one.
I don't need some smart guy in here like pointing out my failures.
And if you're Joe Biden, the last thing you want is for the American people to know that there's an option that's not Donald Trump.
Your whole appeal is that you're the not Trump candidate.
And if you're CNN, you're like, do we really need someone pointing out that we are owned by the pharmaceutical companies and don't allow the truth on our airwaves on our airwaves?
Like, no, that doesn't sound appealing.
So it's just funny to kind of watch this thing where everybody is just, you know, you could just, sometimes you could tell an outcome by the incentives and you're just like, yeah, there's no way Bobby Kennedy is going to be allowed in this debate.
Everybody is incentivized to keep him out.
Yeah, I think it's that Biden's polling so terribly in the swing states.
Maybe they told him that he has to do something.
I just, we might be showing it later in the show.
He was just recently bumbling so bad.
Oh, yeah.
You know what?
Let's here.
Let's let's just let's throw to that right now.
And when I was vice president, things were kind of bad during the pandemic.
And what happened was Rock said to me, go to Detroit and help fix it.
I mean, it should, it should be pointed out that the pandemic did not happen when Joe Biden was vice president.
So he's, I don't know why he would have been sent to Detroit to solve that pandemic.
I think he's talking about the financial crisis and him going, I imagine, right, going to Detroit when the auto companies were failing or something like that.
But anyway, that's not, yeah, that's not good.
Seems to get the basics on that one wrong.
Yeah, it's, and again, you would kind of overlook this if it wasn't a pattern that happened all the time.
This isn't like a one-off type deal.
But anyway, yeah, there was a...
It's hard to get to the logistics of how you're going to deal with these issues if you don't even have the reality of the issues correct, such as your position, the year that it was in.
It's like you're living in a different timeline here.
It's something else, man.
It's really something to behold.
And look, I think you're probably right when you say that, you know, the Joe Biden in 2020, if you could try to put yourself back in the year that was 2020, what a crazy year it was.
Joe Biden still had, first of all, okay, he's been in the Senate forever.
He had been in the Senate for over 30 years.
But, you know, most people, most Americans don't really know the details of like someone's voting record in the Senate.
He just kind of was known as like, he's a fixture.
He's a permanent, you know, guy who's been there forever.
Really, what he was known for was being Barack Obama's vice president.
And 2020 was a wild year, an awful year for the United States of America.
And the Donald Trump, the three previous years, 2017, 18, and 19, were wild years in their own right.
You know, like it was, the Trump thing was just insane.
And then 2020 is like the wildest year yet.
And there were so many people who were just so fatigued with all of it.
And even though me and you knew this was bullshit and talked about it quite a bit on the show, there was something plausible in Joe Biden's pitch that was like, let's go back to normalcy.
There's something very attractive in that for tens of millions of Americans.
And of course, there was the pandemic.
Joe Biden was leading in all of the polls.
And so, yeah, he could just say, hey, play it safe.
I'm going to stay home.
I'm going to say, hey, I'm following the science and I'm being smart, especially when you had a guy, 2020, Joe Biden, who's lost more than a step.
Why would you want to put this candidate out there in front of everybody?
Play it safe.
Don't put him in a lot of interviews.
Don't put him in a lot of things.
Do very occasional, very occasional appearances and let's just play it safe and we could win this.
He's no longer in a situation where he has any of that.
None of that is the case anymore.
He cannot plausibly say that I represent a return to normalcy because nothing's gotten normal since Joe Biden's been in there.
It's just gotten worse.
If anything, it's solidified the idea that we're never going back, which is something that I will say personally, I've struggled to fully accept.
And I'm sure that's true for many Americans.
You know, there is, I remember very vividly because my coming of age was, you know, I was 18 when 9-11 happened.
So my going from being a boy to a man, that happened during the terror wars.
That was my young adulthood.
And I remember there was a feeling after 9-11 of kind of like, when do we get to go back to the 90s?
You know, like when, okay, when is the terrorism problem dealt with?
And then we can go back to the way things were before this issue.
And it slowly started to occur.
I think it dawned on all of us that, oh, we're never going back.
That's not happening.
We're not going back.
We're not going back to a country that doesn't have a Patriot Act.
We're not going back to a time when you could just walk up to your airplane.
And we're not going back to, you know what I'm saying?
Like none of that's happening.
And I think this is something else that is now with the rise of wokeism, with the rise of like all of this kind of insanity.
And after COVID, it's a difficult pill to swallow where you're kind of like, when can we go back to the pre-COVID days?
When can we go back to the pre-insanity days?
And that's not happening.
We're not going.
We're going forward.
And hopefully forward, there's some positives in what's ahead, but we're not going backward.
Anyway, Joe Biden's not in the situation he was in 2020 anymore.
And he is now losing in all of the polls.
And there's basically, and I've heard a lot of different commentators kind of bring this up.
There's basically two different ways to look at this.
And I look at it, as I've explained before, the second way.
But one thing you could say is like, hey, look, all the polls had Hillary Clinton winning and Hillary Clinton lost.
All of the polls had Joe Biden winning by a much more comfortable lead and he didn't win by that lead.
It was much tighter than that.
And the polls indicated there was going to be a red wave in this midterm and that didn't end up happening.
So you know what?
The polls are wrong and therefore dismiss them and throw them out the window.
Okay.
That's the more comforting narrative to Joe Biden.
The problem is that the midterm elections didn't involve Donald Trump.
So take those out for a second and just look at the ones that did involve Donald Trump.
The consistent pattern in how the polls got it wrong is that they always underpredicted Trump's performance.
In other words, Trump always did better on election day than he polled.
There are not, you don't have this dynamic where there are like people who hate Donald Trump who are kind of embarrassed to admit that they hate Donald Trump.
People who hate Donald Trump are very happy to tell you that.
You do, however, have a dynamic where people who love Donald Trump might feel a little uncomfortable letting you know that they love Donald Trump.
If that's true, which you know everybody on the Biden campaign is well aware of this dynamic.
It's not like they would hear me say this and go, oh, I never thought about it like that.
You know what I mean?
They're well aware of that.
So if that's true, it's quite possible that Donald Trump's lead on Joe Biden is substantially higher than the polls, which have him winning every swing state.
What the polls suggest right now, and what is really suggested if you believe that Trump might be, as he always is, actually doing better than he's polling, is that this could be the closest, essentially the closest to a blowout that is possible under current political circumstances.
Like, you know, Richard Nixon carried 49 states in his reelection campaign.
No one's doing that anymore.
The United States of America aren't like that.
Nobody could carry 40 states.
The most popular Democrat, the most popular Republican couldn't even come close to that.
But if Trump were to take every single swing state, that would be the closest to a blowout that we're going to see in current political situations.
So anyway, if that's the case, and you know the Biden campaign is well aware that this might be the case, then I think it comes back to what you said.
No Fillers Just Nom Nom00:02:25
They're like, we got to do something.
We can't just stay at home.
We will lose if we do that.
So we got to hope to, you know, hey, he didn't do that bad in the debates last time.
Let's see if we could get him all out of rolled up for some fucking debates.
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However, here, let's play the other clip that I was thinking of just to really grapple with where we're at.
Modern issue working around the clock to free the remaining hostages, just as we have freed hostages already.
And here it is today as Hirsch Goldberg-Poland is still, he is not here with us, but he's still being held by Hamas.
And Rachel and John are here with us.
Stand up, guys.
So, I mean, that's what you're talking about, dude.
I mean, on the wrong day when he's not on all the right meds, the guy cannot speak.
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There's just never been anything like it before in both of our lifetimes.
There's never been anything like this.
A president incapable of speaking.
I mean, he sounds like his dentures are loose and he's had 12 shots.
Like he sounds like hammered, slurring his words with loose teeth.
He can't get in my administration straight.
Can't pronounce the names.
Says the person who's being held by Hamas is here with us today.
I mean, just like, it's really, really bad.
Yeah.
And there's even a longer version of that clip where he just goes on muttering and stuttering.
And you really, you're like, what drugs do you have?
And what's like the limited usage that you guys just throw it into on the debate?
It's like there's some magical science.
It's like, I can get you one hour.
I can get you one hour.
Well, it's not, it's just not right that they don't tell us because like if like, what could that do for me?
You know what I mean?
Like if I really had to be on, I mean, obviously there's going to be a crash afterward, but how sharp could I be if I was on whatever Joe Biden's on?
You know what I mean?
Like if you can get him speaking coherently, I'd be limitless with this drug.
Just tell me what the cocktail is.
Next time I go, I need this for my Chris Cuomo debate.
I need to take this limitless drug that they give Joe Biden.
Yeah, it's just, it's wild.
And it is something, you know, I think I may have said this on the show before, but there's this old, what do you call it?
Like a fable called The Emperor's New Clothes, which I remember like learning as a kid.
Do you remember this?
Like Naked King.
It's a silly story.
It's a good time.
Yes.
And I remember just kind of, you know, I enjoyed it as a kid.
Like it's one of those stories that's, you know, there's these weird things.
And I've been more aware of this since I've become a parent, but there's these things like nursery rhymes.
Like my kids have this, there's these two books of nursery rhymes, like all the classics.
And for whatever reason, from the age that since like late, like my boy right now, he's, he's two.
And when my daughter was two, just loves them, loves them.
And it's like, you know, like Hickory Dickory Doc, the Matt, whatever, however it goes, you know, like all that stuff.
I mean, I've heard that one.
I don't, I don't spend enough time around kids, which is good because I don't have any.
The cow jumped over the moon.
The dog laughed to see such fun and the dish ran away with the spoon.
It's like all these, but they're just real.
They've just been around forever.
But for whatever reason, they just, they hit a note.
These kids still love them.
And it's like, why is why are we still saying this one?
Why hasn't anyone come up with like a different one?
You know what I mean?
But regardless, anyway, I remember liking that story.
The Emperor's New Clothes.
For anybody who doesn't know, if you haven't heard of it, the story basically is there's an emperor and he's walking around naked and everybody's pretending that he's like he's walking around to show off his new garments and everybody's pretending they're amazing.
Like, oh my God, look at the clothes he's wearing.
They're so beautiful.
They're so bad.
And everybody's just pretending.
And then I think it's one little boy who finally calls it out.
And he's like, he's naked.
He doesn't have any clothes.
Anyway, I enjoyed the story as a little kid.
I never at all saw the relevance or what the point was.
It was like that never like clicked with me.
Oh my God.
After watching Joe Biden over the last few years, it's unbelievable.
You're like, that was the most brilliant thing that was ever written.
It's amazing the capacity that adults have to all pretend to themselves.
You know, like watching Democrats try to argue that there isn't a major problem with Joe Biden and his mental state over the last three years, four years, has been, it's truly revealed something about human nature to me, like the capacity that people have to lie to themselves about something that's right in front of you.
It's literally, there's a naked guy standing in front of you and you're talking about how great his clothes are.
It's on the same level.
To listen to the clip we just played and to say, I don't see a problem with this guy being the commander in chief of the most powerful military in the history of the world is unfathomable.
On top of that, the same way I think we need serious investigations and prosecutions for the fraud and crime of the COVID regime.
I think if after Biden loses or steps down, he ends up in an old age home or they kind of comes to light of the fact that he did have full-scale dementia.
The handlers or other people in the administration that covered up for it, the doctor that gave him a clean bill of health and the people, I mean, on a nightly basis, from the experience we had with my grandfather who had dementia, it's very apparent.
And there must be people that are seeing him do crazy shit behind closed doors all the time.
And I don't know, there needs to be some new crime of like just defrauding the American people because I feel like all those people are complicit in this.
Dude, it's.
There's this weird kind of like curve in life where you know you kind of like um you, you grow up and reach kind of your prime and then you start falling off and go back you know what I mean and come back down the other side and it's.
It's really interesting having little kids like I was at my.
My boy is like two and a half and it's a really between, particularly between two and three, maybe between like kind of one and a half and and four.
If you're speaking more broadly.
It's amazing.
You watch them like develop things and develop in real time and it's it's hard to describe but it's just the most beautiful thing in the world, like watching a child develop and progress and start doing stuff that they couldn't do and all of a sudden they're doing it.
You know they go from like in this time, from like like around 18 months, and it's it differs for for different kids, but around 18, 20 months old, like right before they get to two, they usually start putting like two words together.
You know like it'll be like more juice, or mommy here, or you know, daddy come, you know like things like that, and then literally there'll be like a point I remember for my son it was like amazing where it was, as I don't know.
It's like four months ago or something like that where all of a sudden there's just like he's, he says like a seven word sentence and you're just like whoa, what a sentence.
And then all of a sudden, it's just like every day, it's like every day there's these long sentences.
You know just oh no daddy, come over here, we need more.
You know, just like, and you're like whoa, what a great like.
And and it's like there's something so beautiful about watching someone develop.
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And it's the exact same inverse of how tragic it is to watch someone lose, lose it like I.
I know you're saying you went through it with your grandfather.
I went through it with one of my grandfathers too.
It's, it's so profoundly sad.
It's just horrible.
It's horrible to watch someone like lose their capability to think um, and it's a horrible, horrible thing.
And there's no way like to your point.
There's no way everybody in Joe Biden's life doesn't know this.
And I mean everybody.
I mean from an intern to his wife and everybody in between.
Nobody who interacts with this guy privately doesn't know this.
And yet they all lie through their teeth and they go, no, he's sharper than ever.
In private, yeah right, he's like that on camera Rob, but as soon as he gets in the situation room he's just barking out orders and he's all over it.
I mean look, it's listen.
We anybody who actually studies our government knows that the president doesn't run the government.
Um, that was made very clear during the Trump years for other reasons.
But this is a whole different way of making that clear.
Everybody knows this guy's not capable of anything.
This guy wouldn't be capable of running a household.
He can't run anything.
Running the most powerful organization in the history of the world.
There's no way.
Anyway, let's I wanted to play this clip because I did find this kind of fascinating.
So Bill Maher was on the view recently and this very topic came up.
So let's let's let's listen to how these guys are dealing with it.
You're a comic, but you make you basically go after Trump and Biden.
You know, both of them.
And a lot of people are not happy with you about that.
So, and I'm not equally.
Well, not equally, because you know that Trump's doing more danger.
Of course.
I mean, I don't think anybody was more out front on that danger than I was.
I was talking about how he was never going to give up power long ago when everybody was laughing at me and said, you smoke too much pot.
And I said, I smoke just the right amount of pot.
I was using the term slow.
I want to get into the other point about how they're dealing with Joe Biden's clear senility.
But it's amazing the world they live in.
I was the one who called that he would never give up power.
Are we to pretend that he didn't give up power?
I know that the entire progressive world decided that January 6th was like 1911s or something like that.
I understand that you, you know, this event was whatever it was.
You know, it was like a protest that turned into a riot that also seemed to be a fairly peaceful guided tour.
All of these things kind of wrapped into one.
But it is amazing that we're like when they talk about this, we're supposed to pretend that I didn't watch Donald Trump get on a plane and go to Mar-a-Lago and peacefully transfer power to Joe Biden.
Like, anyway, it's just very bizarre to live in this world where that was an accurate prediction.
Like, no, you were being hysterical and you were demonstrably proven wrong when he did peacefully give up power.
Okay.
Like, I'm just saying, he pursued legal avenues, lost, and peacefully gave up power.
That's just a fact.
That's what happened.
All right, let's keep playing.
That's right.
I said, this guy is never going to concede power.
It's impossible to imagine him going, oh, I lost.
Yeah.
You can't do it.
He just, that's just not in his nature.
So, but I'm nervous about saying anything against Biden because I feel, you know, not that I have so much power and you have some more than I do, obviously.
But are you afraid that you might, you know, influence people who are on the fence?
I think you lose all credibility.
I do.
I mean, my bond with my audience has always been I don't pull a punch.
Yeah.
My bond with my audience is you're not going to like everything I say, but you know I'm saying what I really think is true.
Right.
That's, and that's it there.
Because I just find it interesting to like kind of dissect these things because it's, it's an interesting, you know, little window into these people's minds.
So with that, what Bill Maher just said, I, I just couldn't agree more on such a deep level.
Like I, I feel the exact same way, man.
Like I really do feel this kind of like a bond with our audience, like all the people who listen to me.
And I take it very seriously that I think I have an obligation to tell the truth as I see it, obviously.
But that that's kind of like, that's exactly that's that's the whole game.
And that's why people listen to our show because they trust that we're going to tell them what we really think.
And lots of people in the audience, it's not as if our audience are 100%, you know, like on board with everything I say or everything you say.
There's one of my favorite things that I get this fairly regularly, my favorite compliment is when people go, I really disagree with you on a lot, but I love listening to your show because I know you're always telling the truth as you see it or some version of that.
In a way, that's like way, it means more than someone who goes, I 100% agree with you on everything.
Don't get me wrong.
If you 100% agree with me on everything, you're more right than the person who doesn't.
But still, you know what I'm saying?
There's something kind of cool about someone who will be like, I don't agree with you, but goddamn, you do make some convincing points and I know you're being honest and stuff like that.
But it's so bizarre if you really think about for a second the question that what's her Joy Behart that she asked Bill Maher.
She goes, you know, you criticize both of them, but don't you think that's dangerous?
Because like, what if there's someone on the fence who is convinced by your criticism of Joe Biden to go over here?
And you're like, wow, what an interesting way to look at the world, huh?
It's like, so what do you mean?
So what are you suggesting there?
That you should just basically lie to your audience, right?
Lie by omission.
Just leave out all the criticisms you have of Biden.
Don't mention any of that because that could be bad for what is the cause here, right?
Which is that essentially she's admitting, she goes, look, we're both Biden surrogates here.
We're in the business of trying to get him reelected.
So don't you think we should take this tag rather than that tag?
And Bill Maher is kind of going like, no, that's not exactly my job.
That's not exactly my job.
My job is to tell the truth.
Like that's the, that's a different thing than what I'm doing.
It's, it's, it's actually a really stunning admission by Joy Behar that she doesn't even realize she's making.
But anyway.
It's also, it's a, isn't that a more dangerous approach to freedom?
Because if you're agenda first and your agenda is, I have to support the person on my team, which is already quite a bit of power has gone into making sure that you can only support these two people.
It's a pretty well-protected system.
And that's why they hate Donald Trump so much is, I mean, even though when push cuts to shove, I think he votes and takes the actions of the deep state.
But anyways, just to keep this, keep this focused on Joey.
If she goes up there and goes, listen, it doesn't matter what the guy's doing.
We all have to put our blinders on and preach the propaganda.
You're kind of giving the president a free pass on.
So is there any policy that Biden could display that you would actually talk out again?
Like, how much does he ask to ruin the country with inflationary policies before you speak out?
Because if not, you're giving the guy a free pass.
Like, are you just blanket support because the other guy's worse?
And so there's nothing that you'll criticize because then that might empower the other side.
So what are you going to do?
You're going to get on the air every single day.
Like, I don't know.
Could he literally be killing people?
And you go, well, Donald Trump's worse.
So we're not going to talk about that on the show.
Well, look, and I mean, again, like, I'm not, I don't mean to present this like there's no, there's not a fair argument to be had, but this is the essence of why I'm out of two of the two major parties, out of major party politics.
And, you know, I'm a member of the Libertarian Party.
And, you know, look, I understand where people can criticize it all the time and be like, ah, what do you guys ever get done?
You're never going to win power or all of this.
Like, look, there's an argument to be made, but I'll get so many people essentially saying the opposite of this, going, well, why don't you just support Donald Trump?
Because you know Joe Biden's worse.
Like Donald Trump's at least okay on these three issues or he's at least at odds with all the people you hate, you know?
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The problem is that you go, so then basically we're just doomed to continue declining and continue failing.
I mean, if you're telling me that all you got to do is get someone worse to run against this guy and then you're not allowed to oppose this guy, then that's the entire game for the rest of history is just have someone truly awful run against them.
And then you go, okay, everybody better fall in line.
There's someone worse as the other option.
Like when is it ever the appropriate time to point out that they're both terrible?
And I'm just not going to stop playing that.
And, you know, as we...
Well, it's almost, it's almost better if you're criticizing policy.
Like, you know, if you like a guy, but you think some of his policies are terrible, or if you don't like both sides, but you think some policies are better than others, that's firstly, you're presenting honesty and that might actually help.
You know what I mean?
Like if you think that Biden's economic policies or the way he's treating the war in God's or the way he's treating the war in Ukraine are terrible, you should speak out against that because you might actually be able to change those things to say, hey, I'm not going to speak out against these policies because I need this person to rewin election.
Well, then you're really, I mean, you're perpetuating evil.
You've taken, you know.
No, that's exactly right.
Listen, anytime you lie, you're perpetuating evil.
That's just the way it is.
Okay.
Here, let's play the rest of the clip and then we'll wrap up in a little bit.
Biden just presents as old.
It's not really fair.
No.
Because he's almost the same age.
Trump is almost the same age as him.
But Trump doesn't present that way.
You know, you look at somebody right away.
You can kind of just sum them up.
I mean, we are not young, but we don't present as old.
Biden does.
I saw him yesterday making that speech.
I mean, I'm sorry.
He's cadaver-like.
But his brain is good.
It's too good.
You got to pause.
This just drives me nuts.
It's not present.
It's where your skill level is.
There are old people who are still youthful because, I mean, this is not anyone's fault.
Like, there's people that are dead.
They don't present as alive because they died.
That's what happens.
You know what I mean?
You get to a point where you're dead.
But that's just like, Rob, that's a totally superficial view just because he doesn't present as alive.
And we're lucky we present as alive.
But like, no.
There's people that get cancer and so they don't present as healthy because they have cancer.
And so if you want to go, they can't run a company because they literally have cancer.
It's not that they present as not well.
They are sick.
It's, it's, it's a cope.
It's like the most pathetic cope that he's going.
This is how he's going to say it in his head.
No, he presents as old.
Oh, it's not really his fault.
I mean, Donald Trump's just as old.
He just doesn't happen to present that way.
He's, he's saying it almost as if like, oh, you're just kind of like, ah, you know, this guy's got a mole on his face.
And so your immediate reaction is to think about the mole and this guy just doesn't.
And therefore, you're making this kind of superficial judgment where it's like, hey, me and you are old, but we just don't present that way.
We just got lucky and we don't present that way.
Where it's like, no, that's not at all what we're talking about.
It's not just a matter of the fact that Biden looks older than everyone else.
That is true too.
He looks substantially older than Donald Trump.
But that's not the issue.
Bill Maher, as pathetic of a cope as this is, you just kind of presented a coherent argument.
You were able to speak.
You were able to think.
And I can deduce from listening to Bill Maher there that he's a competent individual, that you could have a conversation with him and he would follow your train of thought and he would know what year it is and what state he's in.
You know what I'm saying?
You look at Bill Maher and you go back, I could run a company.
You know, like, okay, it's not a matter of just how you present or some superficial thing.
The guy has difficulty walking and speaking.
He cannot keep thoughts together in his head.
He does not, he gets lost when he's reading a teleprompter.
He reads out loud, pause for clap it.
You know what I mean?
Like it's it's crazy.
All right.
Anyway, let's play the rest of this.
But his brain is good.
He's still great.
Well, here's what I said.
Like when I came back after the strike in September, I said he should get out because he's just lost the faith in people.
It's not fair.
He's actually done a pretty good job.
But I said he's going to be Ruth Bader Biden.
That's the term I use.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
She stayed too long at the fair.
I remember Obama had her over at the White House like in 2013 to hint, you know, hey, spend more time with the grandkids.
That would not be a good idea, Ruth.
And she didn't take the hint and she was not in good health and she stayed too long and she ruined her legacy and got the Supreme Court now to be a pretty right-wing organization.
Said Biden shouldn't do that.
But, you know, ego, he's Dracula.
He has crossed oceans of time to be here and he's not going to give it up now.
All right.
So, I mean, look, Bill Maher ultimately does come to the correct conclusion, which is that Joe Biden shouldn't run.
This is obvious.
I mean, if you're a Democrat who doesn't want to see Donald Trump win, of course the answer is anybody else except Joe Biden should be running.
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But it is just, again, it's a sad attempt at coping with reality to be like, it's unfair.
He just doesn't present this well.
I mean, as you pointed out, Rob, there is truth to the fact that it's unfair.
It's unfair that he lost his ability to think and speak when others keep it till later than that.
I mean, there's lots of other things that are unfair about Joe Biden, whatever.
We get into some other time.
But no, it's not that it's unfair.
He's presenting it as if it's unfair that people are judging him in this way.
And that's just not right.
That's actually that people are correctly noticing that the emperor is naked.
It's, you know, it's not, it's not unfair that he presents as if he doesn't have clothes.
He's naked.
And everybody else is trying to insist that he has clothes, even Joy Behard there.
But his mind is good.
It's just the way he speaks.
No, no, that's not right.
This is a clear, the way he speaks is a clear indicator of where his mind is.
This is so obvious.
It's literally like even spending time explaining that that guy is naked and not dressed in beautiful clothes.
That's where we're at.
All right.
Let's wrap up there.
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