Dave Smith and Robbie the Fire Bernstein argue Donald Trump's $355 million New York civil loss is a coordinated plot to bar his White House return, noting Deutsche Bank profited despite alleged fraud. They condemn Joy Reid's NATO warnings as incoherent propaganda and critique Ann Coulter's Bill Maher appearance regarding the Super Bowl shooter's delayed identification. Smith defends Coulter as a provocateur while attacking "racialist" thinking, contrasting historical immigration with modern DEI mandates he views as codified discrimination against white people. Ultimately, they claim the judicial system is weaponized against Trump while protecting establishment allies, suggesting systemic bias drives current political persecution. [Automatically generated summary]
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Government Overreach and Victims00:15:05
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Here's your host, Dave Smith.
What's up, everybody?
Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
I am Dave Smith.
He is Robbie the Fire Bernstein.
We are the dynamic duo in Liberty shit talking or something like that.
What's up, dude?
How are you?
I'm doing great.
Having a good weekend.
How about you, Davey Smith?
Very good.
A very nice weekend.
I've been off this weekend, which I've grown to appreciate the off weekends for sure.
I watched the UFC fights last night, spent the day with my family today.
Good time all around.
Wild fight card.
Wild fight card last night.
Crazy.
Bolkanovsky got knocked out.
It's nuts.
Anyway, next weekend, I will not be off.
I will be in Utah with my life partner, Robert Bernstein, and tickets are selling very fast for that.
These shows are going to sell out.
So if you want to come out, West Jordan, Utah at Wise Guys, me and Rob doing a bunch of comedy shows out there.
So come on out to that.
And then we got Rosemont, Chicago, Key West, Florida, Seattle, St. Louis, Nashville.
Whole bunch of stuff coming up.
Comic Dave Smith for all of me and Rob's dates together.
And then RobbieTheFire.com for all of Rob's headlining gigs.
And yeah, how was your week?
You were doing some shows this weekend, right?
No, I've been home running my mouth, baby.
Go check out Run Your Mouth, putting out some high quality episodes, new studio, good things happening.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
All right.
Very cool.
So a big story, very interesting story, is the latest in Donald Trump's court cases.
He just lost a civil case in New York and was ordered to pay $355 million, which is pretty incredible.
I know you were covering this on Run Your Mouth, Rob, and there's, I don't exactly know where to open with this.
I guess I would just say that, look, we've been talking about for a while now how much the government's thumb has been put on the scale in this election.
Obviously, the government's thumb was put on the scale in the 2020 election to a very large degree.
There's lots of examples that we could look at.
Mark Zuckerberg essentially admitted on Joe Rogan's podcast that the FBI was the reason why they suppressed the Hunter Biden story.
And there's lots of other examples of what they did in 2020.
But we've been saying from the beginning here, and look, I mean, I don't know what to say.
This show has kind of become known for getting all of these issues right over the years.
And there's lots of issues going back to Russia Gate and the war in Syria and COVID lockdowns and the vaccine mandate and all types of different stories, the Ukraine war, now the war in Gaza, where time seems to always kind of prove that what we were saying at the very beginning was right.
And I'm not even saying that to like boast or take credit.
It's really just so obvious.
Like all we were doing was just saying the shit that was so obvious.
But the same with this one.
It's just been so obvious from the beginning for anybody who's who's paying attention and does not have worms in their brain or some deeply rooted bias that makes you unable to see the truth that this has all been part of the plot to not allow Donald Trump back in the White House.
And I'll say, and I'm very interested to hear your thoughts on this, but I will say that there was, I read an article in the New York Times and an article in the Associated Press about this case.
And even them, even the New York Times and the Associated Press, I mean, they won't say it quite the way we do, but even they were going, man, this sure is unprecedented.
And man, this sure does set a weird legal precedent.
And I can't remember.
I'm mixing up the two articles.
It was either the New York Times or the Associated Press, but where they were going through, they're like, there's only like a few civil cases in the history of New York that you could even compare where they've put any type of bill this high on the damages.
And all of them had one thing in common.
There were victims.
Like there were victims who were saying in this case, it's so wild.
They literally, the Deutsche Bank said Trump was a whale.
And we were thrilled to be in business with him.
There's nobody here complaining that they were defrauded or that a service was rendered in a way that it wasn't supposed to be or that a service was never rendered or any of the things that you would typically look for in a case where you'd get this type of judgment.
And the other thing that's interesting is that Trump has testified, or I don't know if Trump testified or maybe his lawyers testified, but that his cash on hand was approximately $400 million.
And between this case and the other civil case that he lost, they're basically asking for all the cash he has on hand.
What a big, what a coincidence that this just happens to be happening.
And what year is it happening in?
2024.
But that's totally coincidental that these unprecedented, you know, like court cases and these novel legal theories are all being used to go after the one guy who just happens, again, coincidentally to be the guy that the CIA, FBI, NSA, the entire corporate press and the establishment of both major political parties have decided is unacceptable to be the next president, who happens to be,
according to every poll, the favorite to be president.
It's like so clear where it's like the American people want this guy.
The powerful people do not.
And right around this time, the whole judicial system is being weaponized against him.
I just like, like, again, I, we should get zero credit for calling this one right.
Like if you just look at those fundamentals, you go, okay, how could anybody not see exactly what's going on here?
So I know you've been like doing pretty deep dives on this, Rob.
So what are your thoughts?
Well, I like that the New York City court system decided, hey, you can't make banks money.
We have to bail them out.
You know, they're looking at the economics of the way that banks are supposed to work, and you're not allowed to make the money.
And then I listened to the prosecutor.
She made a speech afterwards, and she said, this is not a victimless crime because it takes resources from other people.
And I would love to hear the economics on how making money for a bank somehow takes away resources from other people.
What individual walked into Deutsche Bank and didn't get a loan on behalf of them making a loan to Donald Trump that was making them money?
Can you possibly explain to me who this individual is?
Firstly, you don't have access to the same capital that Donald Trump is.
You're not seeing the same loan officers.
But the fact that you could pass a $400 million judgment off the basis that this somehow creates harm for people and that it removes resources from them.
Can you explain that theory to me?
Where's the economist behind that one?
Just explain it.
Yeah.
And Donald Trump's whole defense in this was that there were no victims.
And typically in a civil case, you can't just like say, well, no, there are other theoretic victims who aren't involved in this case.
It's a little bit worse.
You have to actually point to the victims.
So just to be clear, so everybody understands, this was not an instance in like a civil case, I think what most people think of is like some Judge Judy shit or something like that.
Or like, obviously that's a lower level of it, but like where it's like, you know, when you watch Judge Judy, she's never deciding whether someone's going to jail or not.
She's deciding who owes the other one 300 bucks.
But now people also think of like higher level civil cases where like, okay, they couldn't get OJ on the criminal case, but they could sue him civilly and then get him that way.
But with all of these cases, in your mind already, you have a victim who's suing somebody for doing something to them.
But in this case, no victim is presented, but the government is coming in and saying, no, there is a victim here.
And who is the victim?
I don't know.
They can't point to them, but they could theoretically say that, again, they're not claiming that he lost the bank money.
They're claiming that if he valued his properties more accurately, he would have made them more money.
And because he didn't make them more money, therefore they didn't have more money that they could have given out to a hypothetical victim.
It's just the whole thing makes absolutely no sense.
It's like everything with these legal charges, these ridiculous novel theories.
And like, what's so funny about it is you're like, the guy was president of the United States of America.
He backed the Saudis in a war of genocide.
You know, you could charge him for that.
Like, there's crimes here, but of course they won't do that because that would implicate like all of the presidents, including Barack Obama and Joe Biden, who also backed the Saudis in a war of genocide.
And Joe Biden is now backing Israel in a war of debatably genocide, I guess.
But like they can't charge him for any of that.
So they're just coming up with this bullshit.
And it's just so obvious.
It's so obvious that this is only being done because there is such intense hatred for this guy.
And there's a plan to not allow him a fair shot at running.
There's another element to this, which at least I think is funny, is that every time Donald Trump gave a document to the bank, it basically says on the bottom, and for all intended purposes, these documents are complete horseshit and you have to go do your own research.
And guess what?
Banks have all the resources in the world to research and decide whether or not they want to process your loan.
That's the business that they're in.
And if they choose to process your loan and they bet right and made money, how do you possibly insert yourself into that and go, what you did here?
And by the way, the fraud's not even by him.
It would be by whoever prepared the documents for him.
Somebody actually prepares the documents and the documents literally say on the bottom, hey, trust none of this.
Do your own homework.
And the banks, they did their own homework and made money.
Yeah, it's unbelievable.
And even, like I said, even the New York Times and the Associated Press, even when you read their version of it, like they won't go quite as far as to be like, this is all a part of a plan.
But even they are going like, oh, yeah, this sure is different than anything that's happened before.
I don't know the impact.
I can't imagine this is good for the New York City economy.
You're chasing out a person who owns major real estate and you're also barring him, I think, from doing bit.
You're basically taking profitable individuals and barring them from doing business in New York City.
He's also, I think the biggest problem for him is he's not even allowed to get new loans from any bank, I think, that has an office in New York or some sort of a tie-in with New York.
So I think that's actually the biggest cost to him.
Yeah.
Well, the other thing that's interesting about this case is that it seems, and this is not exactly clear, but it seems like they, so they've basically barred him from running a business.
Like he can't run his business anymore.
And his kids too.
And his kids too.
Yeah.
So it's unclear.
I think it was unclear with one of the kids, but it's unclear like whether or not this will actually take down his entire business or at least force him to hand it over to somebody else.
It's all just like, it's wild.
And it seems to me that the most likely answer here is that what they're trying to do is basically put him in a position where he's got no cash on hand and therefore is going to have trouble funding his campaign if he wants to self-fund.
Trump colognes, Trump cows, shades, ties.
He's going to be hitting the streets.
Forget campaigning.
He's going to be selling everything.
Well, this is it.
You kind of ruin the guy financially and destroy his companies and you put him in quite quite a position where it's going to be much more difficult to run his campaign.
The other thing about it that's just hard to not recognize is just that, you know, look, like, I mean, this is nothing new that we haven't said before, but there is the country, our country is changing at such a rapid rate that it's kind of hard to keep up with.
It's much easier when you kind of zoom out.
It's much easier to look at, you know, 30 years ago or something like that and to go like, wow, we are in a, we live in a drastically different country than we did in the 1990s, you know?
But just over the last four years, our country has changed very dramatically.
And it does seem like this is a precedent for something different.
And I'm certainly not someone who is saying like America was perfect and we didn't have our problems before this, but this is something where like if you if you are like kind of hated and and this is more true than ever where we're so like polarized and particularly on political tribal grounds.
Weaponized Justice System00:03:20
And now it seems like the standard is almost like if you are hated politically, the justice system can be weaponized against you and you will not be able to get a fair trial.
You know, that was the kind of the truth with that kid who's looking at jail time for that tweet that he sent about texting a vote to Hillary Clinton.
And this is just a man, is it not a good sign?
But imagine, you know, just like try to, you know, we talk about this all the time, but you're like, you got to really try to think about what we're talking about here.
The former president of the United States of America, who's also the frontrunner to be the next president of the United States of America, is not being taken out by some negative ad campaign.
You know what I mean?
Like he's not being taken out by like, you know, big donors funding his opponent.
He's being taken out by this obvious, I mean, what is so obvious, this mass attempt at every level to charge him with anything that you can twist yourself into pretzels to throw at the wall and charge him with, and then try him in these areas with bias district attorneys, biased judges, and biased juries.
And well, the fun part of it is they get to create their own evidence of now they get to run their campaign ads of the criminal who's been barred from doing business in New York State, or maybe it's just New York City, involved in five criminal court cases.
Look, here, here's the best example of that is we have a quick clip of this, but let's check in with a former funny person turned fetus eating monster, Stephen Colbert.
I know how numb we've become, but it's not normal.
No other candidate for the presidency has ever had to pause his campaign to defend himself in multiple courts.
And I would like to point out that in all seven of his cases, no one, no one doubts that he did these things.
We're just sitting around patiently waiting to find out if the wheels of justice will grind fast enough for there to be any consequences.
And the media is covering it like it's any other political story.
Like it's all horse race.
So there you go.
I mean, that's what this is.
You know, now they have their talking point.
Never before in history has this happened.
It's like, yeah, but that's kind of the whole fucking point, dude.
Right.
We never do this to anybody.
Like, and he goes, is there any doubt that he did it?
It's like, did what?
Like, I mean, yeah, no, in some of the cases, there's not exactly a doubt that he did it, but that's not really the question.
The question is, you think we couldn't have come up with 15 things that Bill Clinton did?
All of them women.
Yeah, really.
All of them women.
Most of them against their will.
Like, what do you mean?
Yeah, the guy, the guy who went with Jeffrey Epstein to Thailand had his, had his, you know, it was totally clean.
It's like, yeah, no, it's just he's the only one who anyone wants to go after.
Like, how stupid do they think people are?
Learning Real Conversations00:02:10
Like, what do you think?
We don't realize that all politicians are fucking criminals.
What?
A corrupt politician?
Why, that's impossible.
It's like, yeah, they're all corrupt as shit, but there's only one of them who you guys are going after like this.
That's the point.
But this is it.
They got their talking point right there.
So that's what they go with.
Not even a joke there.
Just yelling at the audience, getting real close to that camera.
It's unbelievable, dude.
It's unbelievable how they've, it's not even just like that they're doing propaganda.
It's like that they're not even slick with it.
Like you're not even doing propaganda in a sophisticated way where it's like, oh, the joke is this and it's to get you laugh at this guy for these reasons.
And it's just like, I'm just yelling propaganda into your face.
That's my job.
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All right, let's get back into the show.
Anyway, one of the other things that Stephen Colbert kind of reminds me of is another weird like little timeline about 2024 is that Jon Stewart returned to the Daily Show, which I just find utterly bizarre.
It's a very strange thing for me.
I mean, I enjoyed the Daily Show very much back in the day with Jon Stewart.
When I first started Part of the Problem, the Daily Show was like at its height.
And he was always, you know, he was a talented guy and always like kind of did a good job with the show.
And there was something I watched most of the episode that he was on.
And I will say it wasn't even bad.
There were some moments that were funny.
It was kind of, he kind of jumped right back into it and was doing his thing.
What was so bizarre about it to me was that it was almost like, I don't even know how to say this.
It was just kind of like fitting this 2006 shaped peg into a 2024 shaped hole.
You know, like it's just like, it just like kind of didn't work anymore.
And it was reminding me about how, like, how much we're not.
It's not that we're a different nation than we were in 2006.
It's that we were a nation in 2006.
And I don't think we are anymore.
It's hard for me to like find the words to exactly describe this, but I don't think the United States of America is a nation today.
And when I say that, I just mean that like there's been lots of countries throughout history where the borders are redrawn based off a war and it doesn't really fucking fit together.
You know, you got these like different ethnic groups and different religious, you know, groups and they don't like identify with each other as one group.
And like that doesn't really, and I think that's where America's at.
We're really not a nation anymore.
There are, as lots of people describe it in different ways, but there are these worlds where we're living in different worlds in different realities.
Like if you think about, say, like where me and you are versus where like a progressive in San Francisco is, and you just started talking to them about like COVID or the war in Ukraine or something like that, you, you would be like, we are living in different realities.
Now, I would argue that ours is reality and theirs is a concocted one, but whatever.
It's just not, and it was almost like reminding me, I do think from like, at least from like, say, the end of World War II up until somewhere around 2012, we were a nation.
We kind of watched the same shows.
We listened to the same music.
We had at least we thought the same fundamental like beliefs.
And that's drastically changed since then.
And it's just so weird to see this guy who used to do this thing that would almost be the thing that everybody could laugh at left or right or this or that.
And look, he did some funny bits.
There were some things that I, that made me laugh that I thought were good.
It just was like, I don't know, there's just something very strange about it.
Anyway, so he did this whole bit up top about how both Joe Biden and Donald Trump are so old.
And he had some funny like lines in it, but there was still something about it that you were just kind of like, yeah, look, dude, I know both Trump and Biden are old, obviously.
But as soon as you just start even putting it like that, you're just totally revealing your own bias.
You know what I mean?
Like, look, they're both old.
We all get that, right?
They're both old.
I'd say they're both way too old for the job.
I think it's insane to have anybody who's approaching 80 in this position.
Nobody who's ever hired.
Man, someone's going to find an exception and rake me over the coals for this, but this is still basically true.
Nobody who's ever hiring for a CEO of big company hires an 80-year-old.
You know what I mean?
Like that's just never happened.
I guess the exception would be, and I'm sure there's other ones, but if for some reason Warren Buffett left his company and was looking for a new financial job, there's probably a couple people like him that are out there that are there's with very few exception.
Yeah.
With very few exceptions in general, if you're looking for a position of like that type of high stress, high power job, there's people aren't hiring 80 year olds for that.
And for obvious reason.
And so I'll grant, I'll say, yeah, I think Donald Trump's too old to be president, but Joe Biden can't speak.
And like to even, so it's just like this thing already there.
But anyway, but he had some funny lines in the segment.
Anyway, this was pretty hilarious to me.
And I know this does seem like low-hanging fruit, but there was, I just, there's this segment on the view.
And we rarely play these segments, but it was just so goddamn funny to me.
This was the view responding to the fact that John Sergeant, before you even go to the video, this is one of the things I love about comedy.
Even there's something really beautiful about the force that is comedy.
And I remember, I don't know if you remember, you remember when Chris Rock hosted the Oscars and it was the year that like black people, there was like a thing to boycott the Oscars because there wasn't enough black people nominated or something like that.
And he hosted it anyway.
And he did his like his monologue and it was really funny.
And he did this whole thing about how like he was like, they're saying boycott the white Oscars.
He goes, you know when else we had a white Oscars?
He was like in the 50s, in the 60s, in the 70s.
And he goes, and you know why black people didn't boycott the Oscars back then?
Because they had real problems.
And like went on this whole thing.
And then he said this thing about Jada Pinkett Smith, which, by the way, maybe that was where that whole thing started from.
But he had a joke about her where she was boycotting the Oscars.
And he's like, you know, in his Chris Walk rock way, he's like, Jada Pinkett Smith, you're on TV.
You're boycotting the Oscars.
That's like me boycotting Rihanna's vagina.
I wasn't invited.
And like just, they were just funny jokes.
And there's something about funny that it just, it kind of draws you towards like you can't do just propaganda.
If you're trying to be funny, you're eventually going to hit on the thing that like you weren't supposed to say.
It draws you to the truth in a different way.
Not like just telling the truth.
It's a different force, but it still draws you down.
And so Jon Stewart was trying to be funny.
And so he did have some good jokes about Joe Biden being really old.
And he played this like montage of everybody talking about how privately Joe Biden's on top of his game.
And there is like a whole montage of everyone being like, I've been in meetings with him and he remembers everything and he knows everything.
And then at one point, Jon Stewart goes, did anyone record that?
Because that would be good to put out.
And it was very funny the way he did it.
So anyway, this struck a nerve with the ladies of the view.
So here's their response.
People ever to run for president, breaking by only four years the record that they set.
So a lot of people are happy to see him back.
What'd you think about his take on everything?
I'm so excited he's back.
I never stay up that late and I did to watch him come down.
He's still got it.
I love that he takes shots at both sides.
And listen, he's underscoring an issue that we've talked about at this table a lot.
A lot of us are never going to agree on this, but I feel like he makes this point in it, which I've tried to make before, which is democracy is on the line in this election.
Donald Trump is the most dangerous president of all of our lifetimes.
And Democrats have made that their crowning campaign message.
So that means that Joe Biden should be open to the most scrutiny because it is such the stakes are so high in this race.
So I think it's a legitimate issue.
Hillary Clinton came out this week and said Biden's age is a legitimate issue.
Nobody is arguing his accomplishments.
He has delivered.
He has a legislative record.
But it comes down to, is he the strongest person to beat Trump?
And I'm not convinced he is.
Here, hold on, pause it real quick.
I'm not sure about this, but I'm pretty sure that's like the conservative on the view.
Like that's the like, okay, let's hear from the other side.
And the other side is like, well, obviously Donald Trump is the most dangerous thing ever.
And so this is the most important election.
And that's why, I mean, we could kind of consider the fact that the guy can't speak, which is funny because obviously it's still within the narrow confines of like the window of what you're allowed to say.
But it is so funny that someone just raises the point that you go like, oh, since the other guy's Adolf Hitler and everything good and decent is on the line and this is the most important election ever, maybe we should run a guy who can speak.
And like that's somehow a controversial view within that.
But anyway, don't worry.
Joy Reed, not Joy Reid, Joy Bayer, Bayer is, she's going to take this lady down.
I'm not going to.
Stop.
You have, on the one hand, you've got a guy, Biden, how old he, 81?
81.
And so he stammers.
He's had a stammer all his life.
I think that's part of the reason he sometimes looks a little doddering.
He's trying to get the words out.
The guy has accomplished a lot.
I don't want to repeat all the things he's done for Americans already.
On the other hand, we basically have a 77-year-old criminal who only cares about, who only cares about getting out of jail.
Okay.
And so let's pause it right there.
So you can already see how this is the talking point, right?
He's a 77-year-old criminal who only cares about getting out of jail.
That's why he's running for president.
I mean, don't let it fuck with you that he was running for president before any of these charges came.
But no, that's the only reason he's running is because he wants to get out of jail.
But so that's this is the new propaganda.
And you've been talking about this for a long time, Rob, is that kind of just in itself, as long as you have him charged in a bunch of things, then you can sit there and go, all these charges.
I mean, where there's smoke, there's fire.
And then that in itself, it becomes this circular logic story.
We're like, well, why would they have charged him so much if he wasn't guilty of so much?
And so that's reason right there where you can't support him.
That's that's the propaganda.
No Fillers Just Food00:02:51
As if, and, and the thing about, yeah, I think she does mean stutter.
I don't know, but the thing is just such a problem, man, for anybody who has the internet or a memory is that Joe Biden hasn't not been a public figure.
And almost everybody, I mean, look, dude, if you go back and pull a clip of Joe Biden in 2012 versus Joe Biden today, you know, or whatever, 2014, you know, just go back like 10 years.
The difference is just undeniable.
And so to say, now, listen, Joe Biden was never very bright and he always thought he was very, very bright.
He was number one in his class.
Yes, that's right.
You can find things of him lying about being number, but when he's lying, he's rattling off that information very quickly.
He's not struggling to get the words out.
But yeah, he was always kind of a buffoon.
But there is just, it's undeniable.
Like everyone knows this.
It is, it is like the emperor's clothes level of like you're all just going to pretend that you don't see it, that the guy can't walk or speak.
You're telling me you haven't noticed that at all.
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Anyway, let's let Joy continue.
NATO Withdrawal Debate00:12:10
I watched him here yesterday because all weekend I was ruminating about what he said about getting us out of NATO.
I don't think that people understand what that means.
You know, I saw this video of all these young MAGA guys celebrating Trump and but well, you know what?
You guys will be draft age.
You want to start up with Russian, the Russians going into Ukraine and then to Crimea and then to Poland.
What's next?
France, Germany, Italy?
You think Americans are not going to be involved in that kind of a war?
That's what you're looking at with this guy.
You know, I mean, I hate to bring up Hitler, but...
I mean, if you were to poll, let's just say 20 to 35-year-olds and ask them, who do you think is more likely to get you pulled into a war, Joe Biden or Donald Trump?
How many of them are more concerned that Donald Trump's getting us pulled into a war?
Well, Rob, I mean, I'll go a step further than that.
And this is, I mean, Joy Bayer makes a really strong argument that women shouldn't be allowed to vote.
I mean, it's like, it's like she's actually, she's speaking to like housewives who are at home or something and they're listening to her.
I mean, there's some amount of people who are listening to her.
There's people in the audience who are like clapping as she says this.
But she goes, well, first off, the risk is that you're going to get pulled into a war.
That's the selling point on Donald Trump.
Okay.
But then she goes, they're talking about getting out of NATO.
And don't you know what that means?
We don't have to go to war in Europe if Putin keeps taking over the country.
Right.
Like, first off, she goes, somehow she gets from, she goes, Putin's going to go into Ukraine.
Then he's going to go into Crimea.
And you're like, I think you have the order of that reversed.
But all right.
Like, you already know if you just like sat here.
Like, if I just had Joy Bayer right here, I'd just be like, tell me about Crimea.
What is it?
What year did Putin take it?
What were the circumstances?
I want to learn.
You just know she knows nothing.
That's just so obvious.
Like she couldn't, she'd be utterly humiliated if you asked her three basic questions about this shit.
But then somehow she has him in France or something like that.
First off, the absurdity of that, but it's just so funny that her position is like, but if we pulled out of NATO and then he went into a NATO country, we'd have to fight a war with them.
And you're like, no, that's not exactly what would happen.
That would totally not be the case.
Let alone, I'm not expecting her to know anything about how NATO is actually largely responsible for provoking this war.
We're not going to break her brain.
But just like, how incoherent this whole point even is.
Anyway, let's keep playing a little bit more and understand why women shouldn't vote.
You know, I mean, I hate to bring up Hitler, but before Hitler became powerful, he stuck his little toe in.
And the Brits and the Americans, everybody appeased him and said, he's not going to get worse.
And then they gave over the Sudetenland to him.
And then the next thing you know, he's invading Poland.
And then he's occupying France.
And then he gets Mussolini on his line.
This is what Putin is going to do.
It's very, very urgent that we not elect this man.
It's not just about us.
It's not about just the economy.
It's about the world's geopolitical issue.
Well, that's precisely my point.
And these boys who are 13, 14, 15, they will be the ones to go.
They will have the draft back again.
Just pause it for a second.
Joy Reid not only has that from her deep knowledge of history, she really understands what happened with Hitler.
And obviously that's what Putin's going to be.
Because remember it happened that one time.
Remember how everybody knows the lesson of history is not that Hitler was some type of unique evil, but that he's constantly everywhere and everyone's about to become him and Putin's obviously going to do that.
And then like, okay, if you think that's a little bit of a leap, that Putin's going to become Adolf Hitler and take over all of Europe?
Like, if you see that being a little bit of a leap, well, then she also just said that 13-year-olds are going to have to go fight the war.
Like, what?
What?
When's there ever been a war in U.S. history where 13-year-olds had to go fight their war?
Maybe in the Revolutionary War, there were like some 13-year-olds out there, but I don't know.
I don't even know what the hell that, like, what?
It's going to be these 13 and 14-year-olds who are going to be fighting this war.
I guess she means in three, four, five years.
Oh, okay.
So, yeah, I mean, he's not going to become Adolf Hitler overnight.
It's going to be after Trump's term, I guess is what she's saying.
It's going to be whoever follows Donald Trump.
That's really when the war will break out.
I mean, just like, what?
You know, when I talked about living in different realities and not being a nation, just imagine that like there's somebody out there who hears this and doesn't recognize that it's complete propaganda.
It's also, I hope the internet does a good job of recording all these moments because if you're encouraging us to send arms to a foreign country and have their soldiers die in a war, and it's solely based on this concept that Putin's going to go take over all of Europe.
So when this war ultimately ends up falling apart and Putin doesn't go ahead and takes all of his Europe, are you guys going to step down from your jobs?
Are you just going to walk away and go, you know what?
I was wrong and I caused death and I provoked a war, tried to send funds into a war for no reason.
I was wrong.
I shouldn't be on television.
No, I mean, Rob, they're such fucking liars.
They're such fucking liars.
We don't even need to play any more of this clip, but play the, Rob, Brian, if you can go to the Nikki Haley clip that we had, because this just like kind of says it right here.
And by the way, this is an interesting little exchange that Nikki Haley had on the ABC Sunday show.
That Putin said once he takes Ukraine, Poland and the Baltics are next.
Now he is putting soldiers around those countries just like he did Ukraine.
And if that happens, those are NATO countries that immediately puts America at war.
That is what we are trying to avoid.
And that's why this aid package is so important.
Ukraine's not asking for troops.
They're just asking for the equipment and ammunition to win this war.
They have a great fighting force.
We need to give them what they need so that they can win, so that we can prevent having sending any of our military men and women to fight.
But it's not Biden that is stopping that aid in Congress.
It's Republicans.
And Biden traveled to Ukraine in the middle of the war.
Biden has given several prime time addresses on the question of Ukraine and the importance of aiding Ukraine.
So I'm asking you about Republicans.
What should the Republican Speaker of the House have the power to bring it up for a vote or not?
What should he be doing right now?
Well, I'll talk to you about Republicans and Democrats because this is not the time to pick which side is right or wrong.
Okay, so let's just get.
Yeah, you know what?
I think it is, actually.
I think it is the time to pick which side is right and wrong.
It's really, first off, I mean, he gets her at the end there.
It's like so laughable, almost the campaign that Nikki Haley is running because, right, imagine if your angle is that you're running against Joe Biden, like theoretically, obviously she's not short of him being removed, going to beat Donald Trump.
But if the angle here is that you want to beat Donald Trump to run against Joe Biden, and your thing is like, we have to do everything we can to fund Ukraine.
You're like, okay, well, what beef do you have with him?
Has Joe Biden not been doing everything he can to fund Ukraine?
You know, like it's only a few Republicans who have an issue with this.
The Democrats are lockstep behind him.
But it's just on the topic, like you were just mentioning, just like, will they ever feel any shame for something?
It's like they're lying through their teeth.
Look, Nikki Haley just said there, it's quite a claim that she goes that Vladimir Putin said that after he takes Ukraine, the Baltics and Poland are next.
That is a flat out lie.
He has never said that.
That quote does not exist.
Open challenge to the internet.
Find me the quote where Vladimir Putin said, after Ukraine, the Baltics and Poland are next.
It's 100% never happened.
He's never said that.
And dude, like the best scholars on this, like, you know, they all know that he has never said anything like that.
In fact, he was just asked recently by Tucker Carlson.
This is why it's so heroic that Tucker Carlson went over and did that interview because you actually get to hear it from him, which so many Americans wouldn't unless he did that.
And he asked him about it point blank.
He goes, do you have any plans on invading Poland?
And Putin's like, I mean, assuming Poland doesn't attack us, then no.
And I'm not saying you just take him at his word.
Like, I don't know, but, but she's saying he's claimed he's going to do that.
And that's just not true.
It's not true.
He's never said that.
And so this is like, to your point, this is what they rely on.
This kind of like, oh, and then we'd have to fight.
So that's why we have to treat Ukraine like they're a member of NATO, because if he attacked a member of NATO, we'd have to treat them like they're a member of NATO.
It's all just incoherent nonsense.
And this is just total, I mean, it's, it's literally like, it reminds, it's, it's like in the last final days of the war in Afghanistan, where they were still going, this, this military that we've built up here is great and they're totally going to hold the country.
And everybody who knew anything about it had known, no exaggeration, for 15 years that that was bullshit.
For 15 years.
Like anybody who served over there knew that.
And anybody who was just paying attention knew that.
And be like, the Taliban's going to take this fucking thing over.
And maybe a debate about how long it would be.
I'll be honest, I would have thought it would be a little bit longer.
I thought there might be a little bit of a civil war and then the Taliban took over.
I didn't realize it was going to be this kind of like coup de main type thing where they just laid down their weapons and didn't even try to fight.
I will tell you that I may have like underestimated.
Like I probably figured like, yeah, the forces we've been spending 20 years training, maybe I'll fight for a few months before they lose to the Taliban.
But American officials were telling you, no, they're going to hold the Taliban off.
did our job we're good this and they fell immediately to sit here and say ukraine is a great fighting force Like, come on, dude.
Anybody paying attention to this knows that what all of the people on the ground are saying is that it doesn't even matter if we send them the munitions.
They don't have the men to use them.
It's just this thing's a wrap.
It may get another round of funding and it may not, but this thing's a wrap.
And Vladimir Putin's not going to be invading Poland after it.
What a missed opportunity for her to just explain.
A vote for me is basically voting for Biden.
Either way, the war machine gets its war.
And that's the point.
Also, by the way, if she was a little bit slicker, she could just say, and that's the point.
I can get the Republicans on board with this.
Biden missed his opportunity by trying to legalize 2 million immigrants coming into the country.
And Republicans weren't going to allow for that because he's clearly trying to cheat our election system moving forward.
And his refusal to compromise and work with the Republicans is why we're in such a dangerous situation in Ukraine.
But she's still.
That would be a better way to sell the war.
You're right.
Yep.
That would be a better way to sell it.
And yeah, so thank God she's not even as good as you could be if you were playing for the evil side.
They really got to hire you, Rob.
They really could.
I know they could steal you away from me.
It wouldn't even take that great of an offer.
Compromise and Ukraine Crisis00:04:21
And be like, ah, shit.
And be like, Dave, what happened to Rob?
And I'd be like, Rob's working for the deep state.
He's writing some really good shit for him, too.
I got to say, they're in better shape than they've ever been.
You do have a knack for doing that on this show.
And it's always troubling to me.
You're always like, well, look, here's what they should say.
And I'm like, yeah, that was a good point.
That would be way smarter than what they are saying.
But to your other point, no, none of them will ever fucking admit.
You know, they'll never admit that this was totally bullshit.
They'll just move on, like always.
I never said that.
I always said it was the danger of Ukraine.
I never said.
Lock what down?
Did I have a key in a lock?
I never said we should lock anything down.
Schools, I love schools.
All right.
That was an experimental new technology.
Who said it was a vaccine?
Yeah, really.
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All right.
So, okay, so before we end the show, I did want to talk about this, this one little topic.
I did not watch this show, but evidently Ann Coulter was on Bill Maher's show recently.
I think she's rolling out her new face.
Yeah, perhaps.
I will say I have always enjoyed Ann Coulter.
And I've read a lot of her books.
And she's, she just happens.
I have vehemently disagreed with her over the years, particularly during the George W. Bush years when she was real on board with the war on terrorism and the Patriot Act and all that stuff.
I mean, she was just so bad on so many issues and then got a lot better on some of those issues that she was bad on.
But first of all, I don't know if anyone out there, if you've ever read an Ann Coulter book, she's like a really good writer.
And I really, I appreciate very good writing.
I'm a terrible writer myself, but I appreciate the good stuff.
And she's just like very like witty and incisive.
And like, just, it's a very, like, she's very easy and fun to read.
And I disagree with her quite a bit, but I always like she's a, she's kind of a provocateur and is always kind of like pushing the envelope and will say really like dangerous things.
And I will say that there have been some issues, particularly, you know, I remember reading her book, Adios America.
And at the time when I read it, I was still like an open borders libertarian.
And it was, it was genuinely challenging to read it.
And I had to admit after reading it, I was like, she is making some really good points in this book.
And like, there's just, anyway, I've always enjoyed her.
She was on Bill Maher's show and I did see this clip.
And it's just, I don't know, there's something about it that's so controversial and dangerous that I was like, I just want to talk about this.
I don't know.
It's just the way I am.
It's like a moth to a flame or something that I'm just like, oh, okay.
What's what exactly is this point here?
So anyway, here is Ann Coulter on Bill Maher, always creating these crazy, awkward moments in front of a progressive crowd.
Race and Honest Dialogue00:13:36
Here she is.
Let's play it.
We don't know who did this shooting, by the way.
The Super Bowl shooting.
We have some idea.
What?
If it were a white man shooting, we'd know.
Well, we don't know.
That's how we know it's not a white man.
I can tell you that much.
You think they're repressing that reporting?
They wouldn't tell us about that transgender woman that shot up the Christian school for what, like a year?
Oh, San Bernardino out here.
Remember the crazy terrorist Muslims?
That's when I first noticed.
Hmm, they're not telling us who it is.
It's not a white male.
The longer they go without telling you, it's not a white male.
Okay.
Well, we don't for this one, for right now, as of Friday night, February 16th.
We know.
We don't, we don't officially know.
Okay, you know, you have special powers.
Okay, so anyway, just for the record, as of February, Sunday, February 18th, we do know an Ann Coulter was right.
So I'm not saying whatever.
It's just, but it's just, dude, watching Van Jones literally just like crater into himself as everyone gets so uncomfortable that Ann Coulter brings up this point that she's like, look, if there was a white guy who shot a bunch of people, you know, everybody in the media would be spinning it as it's like the face of hatred and Donald Trump's America and all of this.
And the fact that they haven't given you this information, you know, like, look, again, here's the thing, right?
I am a, I am very genuinely not a racialist.
And I, by the way, I like the term racialist more than racist just because I feel like racist has been so bastardized that it's like it does, you know, but I'm not even saying like the term racist means different things to different people at this point.
And what it means to me is someone who like viciously hates other people of other groups or something like that.
But what it means to other people seems to be like you made an offensive joke, could be it or whatever.
There's just, it's too big an umbrella term.
But like I'm not a racialist.
I do not view, I'm not saying there's no differences between the races.
Black people do seem to be better wide receivers, but you know, whatever.
Like I'm saying that when thinking about issues or talking about groups of people, their racial characteristics should not be at the forefront of your mind.
And it's a really bad way to judge people based off of their race.
And almost everybody who is a racialist ends up going in really stupid directions and quite often very ugly directions.
So I'm not a racialist.
There is there are racialists out there.
There is like a sliver of the right wing.
Many of you have probably seen them in Twitter replies who think the Jews are all evil or something like that.
And there is a dominant faction on the left wing who will talk about, you know, toxic whiteness or whatever.
But there's a weird thing when you're not a racialist, you're just kind of free to just be honest about these things.
And you watch where there are all of these things.
Like, so Bill Maher, for example, there's a lot of things I like about him, but he is a racialist.
And he was on recently on, oh, God damn, what's the name of the podcast?
I can't believe I'm blanking on the name of it, but the guy who I like, Constantin, I debated him on Michael Malice's show about the war in Ukraine, but he was on his podcast recently.
And they're British and they're over in London.
And Bill Maher just starts going off about how like things have gotten so much better in London since he was there in the 80s.
And they were like, well, what do you mean?
And he's like, well, first off, the place was all white back then.
And so like, okay, like there's now it's like a, you know, now it's like a multicultural city.
And so that's better.
And we should be able to give ourselves credit for that.
You know, like that's great.
Like there's more.
And I just, to me, already, it's just a bizarre mindset.
Like, I don't know.
I don't think a place is better because the racial composition has changed.
Why would that be better?
Like, I would never think that would never just be like better or worse.
It doesn't matter.
It's not better or worse.
Right.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, why does that, why would you even think about it that way?
I would never go to like, you know, I don't know if someone was like, oh, Nigeria is so much whiter now.
It's so much better.
You'd be like, okay, you recognize that.
Yeah.
You'd be like, all right, I'm listening.
But you know what I'm saying?
Like to people, they'd recognize what that is right away if you said that.
So why isn't it the same thing to say it the other way?
It just makes no sense.
And so there's this weird thing where everybody's getting so uncomfortable because she's speaking in a way where they're like, wait a minute, we have this racialist bias over here.
But it's like, you just know she's right.
I mean, come on, she's just right.
She's right about it.
They hid that the transgender shooters manifesto forever because they didn't want a crazy transgender person killing a bunch of people.
That doesn't help the narrative very much.
If there was a white man with a MAGA hat who shot a bunch of people, I promise you there would be no time delay before they told you who the guy was.
You know, I had this interaction on Twitter the other day, and I'm not very block friendly.
Like I don't liberally block people on Twitter.
I've had people on Twitter who do nothing but talk shit to me and I haven't blocked them for years.
I have a pretty small block list.
It will be certain things will get me sometimes.
Like if you're just constantly, if you're replying to everything I tweet without even trying to make a point and just kind of like talking dumb shit at some point, I might just be like, okay, you're blocked.
Or sometimes if people do really dishonest things, I'll call them on it.
And then if they, if I'll be like, I'm going to block you if you're going to be this dishonest, and then I'll block them.
But I did block this guy.
He was a guy who calls himself a libertarian or whatever.
And he, so he said something to me about he, he posted like an old picture of immigrants coming to America, like I think in the wave in the late 1800s.
And he was like, open borders worked out pretty good for us back then.
And I was like, yeah, it's almost like the situation is different.
You know, and he and I go, it's interesting that you posted a picture of, you know, like 1870s immigration and didn't just post a picture of the current border crisis if we're going to talk about it.
And then he posted a picture of the 1870s immigrants and then the friendliest picture of like the current, like it was all women and children in an orderly line, blah, blah, blah.
You know what I mean?
Like of today.
And he goes, oh, so Dave said the situation was different.
I wonder what it could be.
It couldn't possibly be the color of their skin.
And I was just like, dude, I'm just going to block you because that's just the dumbest shit ever.
Like, and then he was like, I don't think he was before I blocked him.
He goes, oh, Dave can't tell me a difference.
The only difference here is the color of their skin.
And this guy claims to be a libertarian.
And I'm like, wait, so you don't, you can't think of any other difference.
Like any other difference.
And you think I'm struggling to think of a difference?
And then it must be skin.
And this is, I'm just saying, it's like the mentality is like, no, dude, you're a racialist.
That's why you're assuming, you're totally projecting that the difference here must be that we're letting brown people in then.
It was white people back then and it's brown people now.
So if you're opposed to it now, it must be because of the race.
And the only reason you would even have that thought in your head is because you're a racialist.
You put race at the forefront and you assume other people are doing the same.
Like, what were the differences between the waves of immigration in the late 1800s and the wave of immigration in 2024?
Let's rattle them off.
Okay, we were in the middle of the industrial complex.
Excuse me.
We were in the middle of the industrial revolution and we needed workers to fill up the factories.
We had the most restrained government in the history of the world, whereas now we have the biggest government in the history of the world.
We didn't have a welfare state.
We didn't have a central bank.
We didn't have an income tax.
We didn't have a culture that was going to insist or laws that were going to insist that if you got sick, you had to be treated in an emergency room.
We weren't going to have laws that insisted that the government had to provide education for all of your kids.
If one of your kids got polio and died, the reaction from the culture was going to be like, yeah, that's what happens.
About one third of the people who came over here ended up going back.
We also had a huge after big waves of immigration, we had huge like periods where there wasn't waves of immigration and everybody assimilated.
We didn't have a culture that insisted that we were built off of toxic masculinity and white supremacy, even though we were much more of a racialist country in that direction back then.
But we didn't have a culture that made you, that tried to convince you to hate our culture when you came over here.
I mean, you can rattle these off on and on and on and on and on.
But the guy's like, well, it must be because they have brown skin.
Anyway, it's just like a really interesting thing when you don't subscribe to this like racialist worldview to just watch everybody else who does and then watch them project it onto you.
Like you know that there were so many people watching Ann Coulter making that point going, she's racist.
But really, she was just pointing out the obvious reality that anybody could can't ignore.
Anyway, I ended up saying to this kid before I blocked him, and he's a real, I mean, look, he's not the sharpest tool in the, in the drawer, but he, you know, there was a line there where it's like, yeah, I don't call.
So I was like, I was like, look, dude, here's the thing.
For all you guys who like rant about how you hate racism so much and like you all accuse me of being a racist.
So do you really hate racism?
Because if you do like, and you're a libertarian who claims you hate racism, just show me, like, have you been out there, like, just like up in arms over the DEI stuff, up in arms over affirmative action?
That they're, that it's literally codified in law to discriminate against people on the basis of their race.
Have you ever complained about that?
Have you ever complained about the insane racism in that that permeates universities in America or corporate America?
No, you've never said anything about that because it's racism against white people.
So like, you don't actually hate racism, right?
Like you're just kind of like pretending, but actually you're just on one side of this racialist divide.
And that's one of the things, I don't know.
I just find it interesting when someone like Ann Coulter will go on a show like Bill Mars and just kind of like push these.
You know, I found like, Tucker Carlson had this line that I really liked.
He said something like, he was like, sometimes you start asking questions and people have this hysterical reaction to you asking questions.
And he compared it to like how you know if something's, if there's an infection, because like you touch it and then you recoil, you know, and you just know, oh, there's something going on there.
Ooh, something really bad.
And it's like that.
It's like you, you put a little point out there and you watch the like, and you're like, oh, okay, there's some bullshit going on here, dude.
You're full of shit.
Because like, if you're really going to say you're so opposed to racism and all these people who are like the anti-racist warriors, and then I could just go like, okay, well, like, like white people are legally being discriminated against in this way.
And your reaction is to feel like I'm a racist for pointing that out.
It's like, oh, okay, then you're not opposed to racism.
That's not actually what you are.
So what are you really?
You know, like, sorry, that's bullshit.
Because if you actually were opposed to that, then you would be opposed to that.
It's just an undeniable truth that you can't even get around.
So it's like, oh, no, actually, you're a racialist.