Dave Smith and Rob review 2023, highlighting Javier Milei's rise in Argentina and Donald Trump's legal battles as pivotal events. They analyze consumer pushback against "woke" agendas via Bud Light boycotts and discuss Elon Musk's acquisition of Twitter. During Q&A, they dismiss secession as currently impossible due to federal force while addressing mind control theories and institutional cycles. Ultimately, the episode argues that saving the United States requires shifting national consciousness rather than fleeing or supporting fringe candidates. [Automatically generated summary]
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Revolutionizing The Country00:14:19
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Well, thank you guys so much for coming out give yourselves a round of applause.
Thank you guys.
Did you guys enjoy the stand-up show?
Everyone had fun Luis J. Gomez popped in and told everyone about how he beat his girlfriend last night.
I don't know.
And then beat his meat tonight.
Yeah, I don't know what exactly was happening there.
It didn't.
I'll tell you, I was hanging in the green room with him.
It didn't seem made up.
I'll tell you that much.
She was shaking the whole time.
It's crazy.
She's shaking.
Did you enjoy the show tonight?
I kept putting drinks in her hand.
Mix that up a little bit.
All right.
Well, what can we...
This has been a great end of the year.
It's been an incredible year for part of the problem.
For me and you, Rob and you, Crit.
We've gone on the road more than any other year.
The podcast has had more success than any other year.
And going into 2024, I'm pretty sure this is it.
Like, I think we're done after this.
I've been at home sharpening my pitchforks.
That's what I've been doing.
I'm not going to be unprepared.
Yeah.
When everyone else has guns and I got a pitchfork?
You're either going to go out, one of the Jews getting pitchforked, or you're going to pitchfork some Jews.
You know what I mean?
It's like that joke about dead babies in a trunk versus bowling balls.
You could pick the babies out with a pitchfork.
Jesus Christ.
Nobody knows that joke?
I'm going to have to side with the audience.
I forgot that one.
I just feel like when shit goes down, pitchfork's a classic.
No one can fault you for having your pitchfork ready.
Well, you got to think, if you were like driving through the street during Armageddon looking for someone weak who you're going to take advantage of their shit, and then you see someone with a pitchfork, you'd be like, next block.
You know what I mean?
Like, let's see who's next after the pitchfork guy.
We're probably going to let him slide and then go to the next guy.
So that's all I'm saying.
If you don't have a pitchfork, you may got.
I don't know.
That's my.
You're like, this is a neighborhood watch block.
They're prepared for this.
I better get a different block.
We've been watching out for Frankenstein the entire time.
All right.
So here's what we typically do on these live part of the problem podcasts is that we talk for a little bit, then we take audience questions.
So if any of you guys want any topic you want to talk about, it doesn't have to be a question.
Sometimes it's like a multi-paragraph long statement.
We don't love those so much.
We appreciate more of the direct questions, but you guys will have a chance to say whatever you want.
And sometimes that guy really needed to say that one thing.
And sometimes it is the person with the most severe case of autism I've ever seen ever who remembers, can recite back verbatim paragraph-long quotes of mine from 2013 and is like, you said this, and I think you were wrong, and I don't remember any of it.
But this is a little bit different because this is a New Year's part of the problem.
So what we're going to start with is what we think the biggest stories of 2023 were.
So we're going to go through those a little bit.
We can all kind of give our biggest stories and I'm sure there'll be a lot of overlap.
But it was quite a year.
2023, you know, 2020.
Well, okay, let's rewind a little bit.
In, as the Mayan calendar told us, in 2012, the world ended.
And for decades, we've all been walking purgatory zombies.
And now we finally got to 2020, where the entire world was flipped upside down.
2021 was just more of 2020.
2022, it finally broke.
The spell of COVID broke.
Credit to Vladimir Putin.
He broke it.
Big up.
And he's, you know, and so the war in Ukraine became a big thing.
But 2023, we had a lot.
Now, I will say I'll start off with this because I tweeted earlier to get feedback from our audience.
What do you think was the biggest story of 2023?
And the overwhelming number one pick.
Can you guess, Rob, what it was?
Great replacement theory?
Dude, I don't think I got one response that said great replacement theory.
That sounds like you just really wanted to talk about the great replacement theory.
Dude, he really wants to have that pitch for.
What do you think the number one story was?
These blacks getting too much for too little?
Uppity minorities challenging the white man's rule.
Mexican guy fucked up my drive-through order.
That was pretty big.
That was huge.
Did I get any response?
No, Rob.
The number one story that I got back, which is interesting because we haven't talked about this that much.
But the number one story was Javier Malay becoming presidente of Argentina.
I don't know what accent that was that I just did with any of that.
Dude, he's got some swagger.
Two stupid Beatles haircuts.
Look, he's an anarcho-capitalist economist who fucking won the presidency in Argentina.
He's got a big old mop on his head.
He's fucking making out with bitches and thongs recently.
So it is, I'll say it's worth talking about for sure.
Dude, whenever they say libertarians are just like Republicans who love drugs, you're like, I guess this guy's kind of different.
He looks coked out all the time.
You guys are just Republicans who love drugs.
You're like, no.
You're like, well, which one of you guys has ever won office?
A Republican on drugs.
All right, fine.
Fine.
But so, look, it is a pretty interesting story that this guy, and here's the thing.
This is why I haven't talked about it that much on the show.
Because I don't fucking know.
I don't pay attention to fucking Argentina.
I learned they were a country when Javier Malay won the fucking presidency.
That's when I was like, oh, I guess this is evidently a place.
But it is pretty interesting that he won on this crazy libertarian message.
And so that is the, now, a lot of people say he's not the real deal.
He's a fraud or something.
I have no fucking idea.
I'm not telling you he is real or he is a fraud.
But in many ways, that doesn't really matter.
Because it's like the point is that he won on what he was saying.
And he was ballsy with the talking points.
He was in your face.
Your policies are killing people.
It's not freedom.
Here's how we save our country.
I mean, he really rammed it down people's throats.
Ladies' throats for the records.
Yeah, you can't be gay.
That won't work.
No homo.
He said that every time.
And firstly, and he's also, I, like you, didn't know that it was a country.
And I get him confused with Venezuela in my brain.
Just to me, they're one and the same, but not at all.
But anyways.
No, turns out they're different.
Yeah, it's like the Helen Keller and Frank thing in all of our brains, where it's just one person for no reason.
Dude, I think the Nazis could have caught Helen Keller.
They kept Ann Frank up in the attic all blind and deaf and dumb.
That wasn't right.
Yeah.
I feel like it was Helen Keller.
They could have done the thing where Roger Rabbit would just go shave and a haircut and Helen Keller would have burst out of the Nazis.
You could keep this blind girl up in the attic.
You're lucky Javier Millay wasn't there.
He would have never let that shit go down.
But to his credit, he's getting after it.
He's already been cutting spending.
He's cutting jobs.
It seems like he's laying off a huge percentage of their federal workforce.
So that's pretty crazy.
But to me, the biggest takeaway from his whole thing is it's like it is kind of an example of what a lot of us have been talking about forever.
That, look, if you want to have a successful libertarian movement, you need to attach it to this kind of like populist, energetic streak.
And you need to be like, hey, listen, everybody, you're getting fucked over by these people.
And fuck them.
And like, that's the only way to do it.
And you need a chainsaw and some sluts.
That's how you get people on your side.
I'm not going to say you need a chainsaw and some sluts.
But if there's a warehouse with sluts and chainsaws in your vicinity, sure, rent them.
You know what I mean?
Like, it might help.
It might help with your cause.
The other thing he did, which I think could be, I see a positive storyline here is he said that he's going to dollarize the country.
And A, I could see that fixing some of their problems because as bad as our Federal Reserve is and how much overspending we do, that does peg them to something that's, let's say, it's a ship that's not sinking as quickly.
So they've had it like what?
Hyperinflation in that country.
But the other side of it is that actually is like you might have thought the regime would cancel this guy because, hey, we can't have a libertarian, we can't have a guy talking about freedom.
But when all of a sudden you say, hey, I'll give you the number one thing that you want, which is your dollars coming down here and more people using the dollars, you played the right card to win over the people who really have power.
Yeah, a lot of libertarians were like, well, okay, I think this guy's not the real deal because he's like waving an Israeli flag and he's saying, I'll peg my currency to the dollar.
And he bailed on the BRICS agreement.
But I just kind of look at it and I go, look, you have to have a look, I'm not saying he's the real deal.
I don't fucking know.
Maybe he's a fucking CIA plant.
I have no idea.
But you have to have a little bit of a different standard of what you think American politicians should be.
Like America is the empire of the world.
Fucking Argentina, we just found out existed.
Okay?
Like it's a different situation.
And if you are, let's say, a tiny country in the, you know, in our hemisphere and you lead what is essentially a revolution.
You know, revolutions are things that you can never call, like right when they're happening, you don't go, a revolution's happening right now.
It takes a few years after to look back and go, like, oh, yeah, that was a revolution.
But essentially, what he's done and what he's doing now seems like that might be a revolution for this country.
If you're leading a revolution in a country in our hemisphere, you kind of gotta play ball.
Because you know, if he were to come out and go, fuck America, fuck the dollar, I'm going with bricks, it would be like, isn't it crazy as plane crash?
You know, it's like, so weird.
You're not triangle at it again, huh?
Yeah.
So, like, if he's just saying, hey, I'll play ball with America, but I'm slashing my federal workforce, I'm willing to listen and go, okay, seems pretty good.
Either way, it doesn't even matter.
The point is that you can win as a libertarian if you have a chick and a thong and a fucking chainsaw and a chainsaw.
And you're railing against, but railing against all of the powerful people who have fucked over the average citizens.
But he has a point.
That's the point.
I mean, something great about it, which is unheard of in Latin America, is like he literally was just like, hey, it's going to suck for a while, but we're going to fix it.
He's honest about it.
It's going to suck for three years.
And it's pretty, that's an impressive thing, Bridge.
It's what I told my wife when we got married.
I said, listen.
I said, listen, you're going to suck for three years.
This is not going to be fun for a decade.
Okay.
But if you put that in, there's going to be another side.
It's like a career at Gas Digital.
Oh, man.
Bobby Hutch was one year short.
So nothing.
Thanks.
He was two weeks from retirement.
He's about to get a golden watch.
I think it's potentially a huge win because I think he played a winning hand with we're going to dollarize the country.
I think that wins over the regime that he'll be able to stay in power.
And I think if the country actually does turn around, that should be an incredible talking point for liberty.
Yeah, look, if the country turns around, this is going to be the most amazing thing, especially if it's because of his policies.
But regardless, you just can't deny.
Like, look, dude, this is something that happened in 2023.
A fucking guy who is self-identifies as an anarcho-capitalist, Austrian economist won the presidency preaching this pure libertarian, fuck socialists, fuck the elites message.
You got to look at that and be like, that's pretty fucking incredible.
That was definitely, for us, for people who listen to this show, one of the biggest things that happened over this last year.
Flavored Air Fumes00:03:08
Now, great replacement theory.
All right.
Now here's the thing.
They want to replace us, okay?
But chicks and thumbs.
I have no problem.
Listen, my beef is that as a Jewish American, we were supposed to replace you.
And now they're saying these fucking Mexicans are going to replace you.
Guys, let's go back to the original plan.
Me and Rob will replace you.
Okay?
So I feel the opposite way.
I feel like, let's replace the Jewish women with these Latin American chicks so that my mom's not mad at me where I'm like, what am I supposed to do?
They sent them all down to Latin America.
And then I can get a lady that you drink.
This chicks, they may whine more consistently.
Right.
But all of that.
These Latino chicks, when they whine, they stay.
You know what I mean?
Like, they're going to, they'll kill you.
Yeah.
You wouldn't survive that world, Rob.
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All right, let's get back into the show.
All right, Rob, what would you say was the biggest story of 2023?
I got to say, really putting me on the spot here.
Donald Trump court cases are a big one.
Yeah, that does seem like a pretty big deal.
It does seem like a whole thing.
Seems like it should be a bigger deal than it is.
Yeah.
Well, it is like I've seen.
Well, we don't know the way it's going to play out yet because they've opened up like six or seven cases against him.
And there's still a possibility.
I mean, the fact that he's gotten removed from the ballot in two states now, which means that one was reinstated.
Colorado was reinstated this week.
Desantis And Bud Light00:15:40
Yeah, but it wasn't exactly.
It wasn't reinstated.
So if you go look at it, they put a stay on the order.
So he's on the ballot.
Like when your seamless driver gets lost.
Yeah.
It was like a weird.
So he's on the ballot until the primary date, but it's basically pending the Supreme Court.
So it's still, it's all got to go up to the Supreme Court, basically.
But okay, so anyway, so yes, he's been charged with all these crimes.
Very serious crimes.
From paying off a hooker to he didn't give back a paper when he was supposed to.
The things you can't ignore.
But it does feel like there's this major, like, you know, America, we have our shit that we do, you know?
Like, we're America.
We poison our kids with food.
And we bomb brown kids for money.
And, you know, feel how you feel.
But this is something we don't typically do.
No.
We don't typically start like, oh, if someone's like, if someone's leading in the polls who we don't want, we just start like charging them with everything under the sun.
This is a very different thing.
And it's very weird.
It's like that we're in new territory as a country.
We're a guy who just objectively, and I'll say, I hate making like disclaimers, but I really, I mean this.
I just can't stand Donald Trump.
I fucking hate the guy.
And it's not just that I hate him because he's like a fucking retard.
He's just a retard who's never read a book about anything and doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
And even when he says the right thing, he got there for all the wrong reasons.
And also just because I think he's fucking gross.
And like, you know, I don't know.
He's the dude who fucking cheats on his wife while she's pregnant with a porn star.
And I could forgive that, but an ugly porn star.
You know what I mean?
Like the grossest porn star ever.
Stormy Daniels.
I mean, there's nine out of 10 trans women are hotter than Stormy Daniels, okay?
Hey, listen, if you got to think for horses, if you want.
You're not going to find a better porn star out there if that's your category.
I'll tell you this, Rob.
There are hotter horses than Stormy Daniels.
Dude, Mr. Vans?
There's some beautiful horses out there, Rob.
I got to take you out to a farm.
There's some very beautiful horses out there.
Stormy Daniels is a nightmare.
But I don't even care about any of that.
None of that's my issue with Donald Trump.
My issue with Donald Trump that I will never forgive him for is fucking COVID.
And that when the fucking, when Mr. We're going to do so much winning and blah, blah, when the biggest crisis of his life hit and he was in the seat, he failed on every fucking level.
And he really, the truth is that Trump cucked like a bitch, like such a fucking bitch.
And he let everybody push him around because here's the thing.
He had never read a book about anything.
He didn't know what the fuck he was talking about.
And he just went, oh, I guess Fauci's right.
And then he'd get up there after Fauci and be like, maybe we could shoot bleach into our van or whatever.
But he was always just asking.
You know what I mean?
He was always going, maybe, while they were shutting the whole country down and ruining the whole fucking country.
And they were doing it to fuck him over.
And he was still so fucking stupid that he'd go along with them all doing it.
You know what?
So anyway, my point is, I don't like Trump at all.
But.
But.
Side note, you could probably get away with card counting in any of those casinos in Atlantic City.
Just saying.
But look, he is the former president of the United States of America, and he is the current frontrunner.
And to see him in that situation and all of a sudden just get charged with nine crimes, none of which are crimes, is fucking insane.
I think the takeaway should be the government called COVID an emergency.
They're calling what Donald Trump did an insurrection.
They're just very dramatic.
The government is a Jewish woman?
Yeah, exactly.
Is that what you're telling me?
And so me.
Damn, send him down to Argentina.
Yeah, I can recognize Jewish women.
And the rest of the country is just buying into the bullshit.
That's the problem.
Well, it might be, I mean, it'll be so interesting going into this next year where I don't, if they, like, what do you think happens here?
I think that they will push it as far as they can because they just like to take the temperature.
I don't think it's going to be popular to not let him run in the election.
I think first it was just pretty popular, that's for sure.
I think first they were trying to do a shakedown to see whether or not they could just force him out of the race of, hey, we're going to make your life miserable.
We're going to steal your properties.
You might face jail time.
And they did everything they could to try and get him to just go, all right, fine.
I'll go live my life down in Mar-a-Lago.
He didn't do that.
That's not how Trump works.
That's not how Trump works.
He's sticking with it.
Right.
Now they're going to push it as far as they possibly can.
So like if they get a good Supreme Court decision, they might be able to sell it to the general public a little bit more.
So they're playing every card.
They're already passed their initial card, which I think they were just trying to bully him out and make him miserable.
Now the next one is you tie down his campaign by keeping him in court, keep him here.
And just basically the guy can't really campaign.
Maybe you get Biden out of debates by going, we're not going to debate this guy.
He's a criminal.
There's a lot of things in motion.
I don't think that they're actually going to be able to execute off of keeping him off the ballot and not able to run, but they will try and bog him down with it as much as possible.
Yeah, that might be right.
I got into it on Twitter today.
This is the first time, by the way, that I've ever evidently, you guys know Ron DeSantis?
Evidently, he has fans.
So I've never come across this before.
Other midgets who wear high heels?
Finally, someone's sticking it up for us.
Evidently, I pissed off the Ron DeSantis fans today because I said something.
So it was her name, Cassandra, who books the Tim Poole show.
She said something about how she was really disappointed that Thomas Massey was supporting Ron DeSantis.
And I was like, yeah, I agree with you.
I love Thomas Massey, but he shouldn't be supporting Ron DeSantis.
How do we pick a fight over the one thing we don't agree with that guy?
Well, then people were like, they were like, oh, you're shitting on Thomas Massey.
And I was like, no, he's the only one I like.
But whatever.
He shouldn't be supporting him.
And then all the Ron DeSantis supporters, they start going, look, this is how Trump supporters are trying to ruin Ron DeSantis or something.
And I was like, no, I'm not a Trump supporter at all.
Maybe check out my previous rant on Donald Trump.
I don't like him at all.
But these guys are.
So anyway, they kept fucking...
One of them said something about how you were probably paid off by Donald Trump.
And I, okay, listen, I have a little bit of a temper.
And so I responded, all right, let me read it.
All right, hold on, just because I don't want to get it wrong.
By the way, I just want to say that.
My favorite Trump thing is when he just calls Ron DeSantis Rob.
Like, I love it.
Like, it's way better than the desanctimonious thing he tried to go with.
He just goes, who, Rob?
Like, it's so fucking funny.
I haven't seen it.
That is crazy.
It's such rich people.
Dismissiveness.
Yeah.
Okay, hold on.
Let me find this.
That is a fair point.
That is the best thing you could even do.
Donald Trump's very good at talking shit.
All right.
So she said this guy was probably paid off by Ron DeSantis.
I'm sorry.
She said this guy was probably paid off by Donald Trump.
And I said, Jesus Christ, DeSantis supporters might be the dumbest people on the internet.
Trump sucks.
Fuck him.
Fuck you.
And fuck your Zionist Warhawk high heel wearing dork.
Damn.
And this bitch blocks me.
For that.
For that?
Well, she wasn't.
I just thought we were having a debate.
She wasn't going to come back from that.
Now you're going to make it a whole thing.
They are a weird group, the DeSantis supporters online.
And it's like, what do you even want me to say?
Yeah, he's terrible.
He's like, if you were going to wear...
Let me ask you this.
If you have to wear high heels, why do the front have to curve up?
What does that help?
It distracts people from the heel in the back, maybe?
I don't know.
No, it just fucking, it makes you look like you're fucking like, I don't know.
Gay?
I wasn't even going to go there.
Florida white boots, gay.
I was going to go Al Pacino and Devil's Advocate type shoe.
That's what I think he would be doing.
Is that a Mexican thing?
Everywhere.
All right, nobody saw the movie.
Fuck you guys.
It was an excellent film.
Okay.
What other stories do you want to go to?
Dylan Mulvaney ruining Bud Light.
Okay, no, listen, this was one of the biggest stories of 2023.
And it's not even Dylan Mulvaney, Woman of the Year.
But one of the stories, and this is really interesting to me, and I really do think this is one of the biggest things that happened, is that for the first fucking time, fucking, I don't even know what to say.
not right-wingers or conservatives, but people who hate woke shit fought back and landed a black eye on the fucking woke agenda.
And this was a big fucking deal.
There were two big ones.
It was Target and Bud Light.
And this really changed the fucking landscape in America.
That they put that beautiful woman on the Bud Light.
And people stopped buying Bud Light.
Their stock fucking crashed.
They lost like $5 billion.
And then Target did this weird thing where they had like tuck-friendly swimwear.
I prefer that.
I guess there's, yeah, look, Rob's been wearing it for years.
But it was at least like close to the kids section.
And it wasn't clear whether it was for kids or not.
To be like Rob is always close to the kids section.
I was just going to say, I just prefer when kids tuck their penises.
If I'm going to be at the public's pool, I don't want to see kids with their penises all over the place.
Yeah, exactly.
Was it Escargot?
Yeah, there's nothing worse when you see one of the Kid Cocks.
You're like, that's bigger than my cock.
Tuck that thing away.
I don't want to feel that way about myself.
Swimming in with black kids?
I have them petting my hair.
I'm just trying to wet racism.
That's going to get your crowd.
Got it, Dave.
It's one easy path in.
But it was a big deal that kind of like both these huge, huge corporations.
Kidcocks.
Huge, huge Kitcocks.
They both really suffered and then kind of walked it back.
Both of them walked it back.
Bud Light went and made a deal with the UFC.
That's how much they walked it back.
They were like, what's the least woke thing we can be a part of?
They walked it back like Kobe Covington two weeks ago.
Nobody watches fights either.
All right, fuck you guys.
He didn't have a good performance.
But anyway, I did think that kind of like, it laid down a little bit of a blueprint where it's like, you know, people, consumers, like still do have some power in this whole thing.
So I don't think we should use that like in a stupid way.
We should pick our marks, but you can, like, if we all decide to not consume any given product, we could make a huge difference.
I'm going to make a bold prediction.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, but also let it be known, as I know my thing is kind of like, I'm a libertarian, and, you know, sometimes right-wingers will have this attitude that it's like, no, that's just not tough enough.
You know what I mean?
Like, fuck, you know, fuck just boycotts or something, which would be like a market phenomenon.
We need like laws that say this woke shit is banned.
But in all of the fucking, in all of this land here, in all of these 50 states in the United States of America, with all of the Republican governors and even like Ron DeSantis and all that shit he did in Florida where he kind of lost to Disney, what was the biggest thing that actually pushed back against the woke push?
It was fucking boycotts from consumers.
That was it.
There was nothing, there was not one Republican governor or fucking city councilman or senator or congressman who did anything that actually hurt any of the woke push as much as just the boycotts of Bud Light and Target.
So just saying, if you're counting on politicians to save us from all this shit, just point me to the example where that ever fucking actually works.
And, you know, I'll just say stop buying their shit.
I'm going to make a bold prediction that in 2024, Dylan Mulvaney goes the other way.
Start taking steroids, becomes the next liver king.
Ooh, 2024, man of the year.
Could you imagine, dude, if you won woman of the year and man of the year in back-to-back years.
That's better than Egot.
That guy's basically our president.
After that, I don't care who wins the election.
He's the guy.
All right.
Very well said.
Okay, what else do we got here?
I would think the next big topic is something that you've talked about.
We did a live pod, but I messed up the audio.
But the divorce from the Ukraine war and the new war that we got.
Yeah, it is.
You know, it's an awkward situation when you break up with an old war because you found a younger, hotter war.
It's tough, you know?
Like, what do you say?
What do you say when you get on the phone with Zelensky if you're the Pentagon?
Like, you kind of got to be like, yeah, right.
But at the same, you're like, it's not you, it's me.
But at the same time, part of you is like, hey, you knew what the fuck this was.
You know what I mean?
Like, you're like, come on, you know.
This is the American Empire.
We don't love these wars.
We just fuck these wars, you know?
Yeah, it's, that's right.
So the war in Ukraine, Zelensky is now just pathetically begging for money.
Like, he's just like...
Scratching his neck like a fucking crackhead.
He really is.
So loan us money.
Loan it to us.
We're good for it.
If you give me $2 today, I gladly pay you back Tuesday.
And then, of course, we found a new war.
And it was an old favorite of ours, Israel.
And that's kind of like Israel.
Zelensky gets it.
It's like Zelensky, you're one Jew.
Gold Yield And Israel00:02:50
This is a whole country of Jews.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're going to waste our money just giving it to one.
Zelensky is like, if you and your wife broke up and then you started like dating some other chick.
It would be Ukrainian, probably.
Yes.
Probably.
But like, Israel's your wife.
You know what I mean?
And then you're like, hey, I think there's a chance for us to like work this out.
And then this like Ukrainian bitch is like, how could, how dare you?
And you're like, come on.
Like, we got kids together.
You know what I mean?
Like, we have wars that we've had together.
Right.
I met you.
This is just one war that we fought.
We've had like six wars in the 2020s.
There's literally a subplot in the first three seasons of The Sopranos.
That guy jersey.
Yeah, I don't.
I'll be honest, I'm not up on Soprano.
It's like Ukraine.
My wife is disappointed in the audience somewhere.
I met you at a strip club when the real wife wouldn't drop any bombs on kids.
So now that they're back to what I know and love, you know, we're getting back together.
Well, that is a...
Look, we've obviously, we've talked a ton about the Israel fucking thing.
And I don't know what else I can add here, except that I've been right about everything.
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San Francisco Dictator Story00:08:03
All right, let's get back into the show.
All right, let's, let's, what are some other stories of the year?
Okay, here's a big story of the year.
Twitter evidently became X. I'm never going to call it that.
I don't know.
Do any of you guys call it X?
No.
Isn't it just so ridiculous?
Look, I'm really happy overall with what Elon Musk's done.
But that was the dumbest part of all of it.
Changing it to X?
Yeah, I don't get that part.
It's just like, what?
I thought you bought the brand.
So keep it that way.
Like, I'm like, I tweeted you.
I'm not going to go, I X'd you.
Anyway, more important than that, Twitter files.
That did drop this year, I believe, was this year.
So that was a pretty big deal that Elon Musk bought Twitter for $44 billion or whatever.
And then a few months into it, he was just stumbling around on a computer and found all of these documents about how the FBI and the CIA and the Joe Biden campaign were all colluding with Twitter.
I never heard this part of the story.
He just randomly found it.
Yeah, that's how it happened.
I never heard that part of it.
He found it in their headquarters.
Right.
We were like, well, look at this.
Well, he fired a shit ton of people that were like kind of guarding it.
Yes.
But like the craziest, I said this to you before, but like the crazy thing about the Twitter files is I think it changed zero people's minds on anything.
Like everybody in this room were like, we knew that.
And then everybody who did it was like, oh, don't go on Twitter.
It was a thing where for years, and you could listen back to old episodes of our podcast.
For years I was saying, this isn't just social media companies censoring people.
This is obviously the government influencing social media companies to censor people.
And then it was like, ha ha, I was right.
And everyone else was like, I don't know what you're talking about.
So it was, yeah, you're right.
There was a lot of that.
But regardless, forget how people reacted to it.
It's a pretty big story that he proved that the government was fucking infiltrating all of these companies to make sure that the American people couldn't dissent during COVID.
During the biggest crackdown on Liberty in our lifetimes, the government was making sure you couldn't dissent from that opinion.
I can't put a finger on it, but it's great that Elon Musk bought Twitter.
It's awesome that there's a free speech platform.
It's all a win, except now I go to the platform and it just sucks.
I never find stories that are interesting.
I never find literally nothing come across my feet anymore that I go, this benefits me.
I just find myself scrolling, looking for topics, and I'm just like, like I put a cap on it now.
I'm like, 10 minutes, final see anything, I'm out of here.
And I never get anything out of it.
And there's porn bots now.
Can I talk about why I hate the porn bots?
It drives me nuts.
I hate these porn bots.
You almost married one of them.
He's been sending one to Argentina for years.
Let me tell you why I hate them.
I fell in love.
No, because you'll get followed.
You get excited.
You're like, holy shit, who's this chick?
And then you click on it.
You're like, fuck, it's a porn pot.
Every time, right?
Used to be like maybe a couple times a year, someone would follow you.
Be like, all right, this is going to happen.
You may slide into a DM.
It'd be a good time.
Now it's just a porn pot, but it's not just a porn pot.
They go like have you been sliding into bots, TNO?
No, no, no, no.
It doesn't even matter.
I love that.
If you're like, hey, you want to come out to a show?
And she's like, follow me on OnlyFans.
I'm already spending my entire life trying not to look at porn, right?
That's my life.
And then you throw it right in front of me, and it's not even like, there's no foreplay.
It's just like straight up like, oh, QC, ah, fuck.
Now I'm looking at like Giant Dong and her asshole.
And you're like, I was trying to get work done.
Like, what just happened here?
It's too much.
The giant dong in her asshole.
Rob, let me tell you something.
That was her dong.
Let me just bent back.
I guess I never picked up on that part.
I'm just saying that part of Twitter is it's crazy that I don't think I've gotten one new follower.
I find I get a lot less followers and a lot more porn bot action.
And it's distracting not in like the helpful way.
All right.
Listen, I understand what you're saying.
Okay, what else?
What else is a big story of the year?
I would go with, well, we had, I don't know if this is the most important story, but there was that China balloon freak out for a while.
No, yeah, China sent a balloon over here.
Yeah.
And we all lost our minds for a few days.
Damn, that was a long time ago.
I forgot about that.
And there's, yeah, and isn't it amazing how these things could be like a big freak out?
And then they were like, so what was that?
And they were, it was nothing.
It's absolutely nothing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We stopped caring about that like almost immediately.
What the hell was it?
Actually, that's the actual big story is whatever was in the news that we got distracted from with the China balloons, which we don't remember.
Well, probably.
And then the other thing, I guess, that also happened this year, right, was Nancy Pelosi went to Taiwan.
And just to.
To find a new husband?
Well, listen, Nancy Pelosi's husband also had a tough year.
Was that this year?
It was that year.
The hammer was made in Taiwan.
Was that this year?
Yeah, it was this year.
It was this year, yeah.
Listen, Nancy Pelosi's husband had, let's call it an incident that, hey, don't you laugh.
That could happen to any one of us.
All right.
Any one of us could find ourselves in the situation where a gay hook.
I fuck gay fat guys all the time.
They are always wielding a hammer.
Gay hooker who happens to have the security code comes into your house, bangs you over the head with a hammer a few times.
Cops get there and, you know, they do what they got to do.
So that's a totally normal thing that happens to normal people.
And then a few months later, she went to Taiwan to tell them we could fight a war if they need to.
I don't know.
None of them seem like happy people.
Well, Z went upped her by coming over here and going, yeah, we're taking it.
Oh, yeah, that's another story of the year.
Biden called him a dictator on TV.
Biden called him a dictator.
Then he came over here and then they fucking cleaned up San Francisco for him.
Oh, we still don't know where those homeless people went or how they came back.
And we don't care.
No one ever cares where the homeless people go.
Some people pretend like they do.
It's never homes.
It's never.
It isn't.
It's like high tide, low tide.
Where does it go?
You spend all day at the beach.
You try and watch it.
You're like, where's this going?
It was just here a second ago.
It was all high.
Now it's just low.
Well, it was a problem and the problem solved.
And I'll tell you, I think the problem's coming back pretty quickly.
But yeah, but wasn't that insane that they were like, they just let you know in like a few days that they could clean up San Francisco if they wanted to.
They just, it was like just letting the, I thought that was like a perfect, like it was such a big story to me because it really just like lets you know.
It's a perfect example.
Like, oh, we could do this if we ever cared to.
We just don't care about you.
Right.
Like, you have to live in this.
But if someone who we deem important comes over here, like, the dictator will take care of it.
I would have thought you'd go the other way.
You'd import more homeless people.
And then when the guy shows up, you're like, this is why I need better trade deals.
You see what's going on over here?
We're being overrun.
This is San Francisco Chinatown.
Supporting The Good Candidate00:05:53
All right.
How long are we at here, Rob?
We're at 11 o'clock.
So, you know, we could start taking some questions, getting ready for some ball drops.
Are we going to hit a couple more topics?
Let's, you know what?
Let's hear from the fucking audience and then let's do a little bit more and then we'll all go and we'll all go enjoy the ball dropping together.
All right.
Does that sound good?
What do you guys think?
All right.
All right.
I'm going to hit the stairs.
So if you got a question, just raise your hand and we'll work through the crowd.
Man, everyone's got so many questions tonight.
All right, here we go.
I'm going to hold the mic, though.
I'm going to lean over you.
Sorry.
Yeah, how's it going, guys?
My name is Corey.
What's up, Rob?
First, I want to say it's me and my wife's fourth anniversary here.
Congratulations.
When we met, she was very apolitical.
Dave radicalized her, so thank you.
But my question, and this is a topic that I kind of had to switch on because mainly because of listening to you.
And it's the whole, you know, with the Mises Caucus, and I forget who it was.
I think it might have been JD Vance, or I think that there was a conversation that happened where the LP didn't run someone and some concessions were made.
And I used to be a very hardcore, everyone should run someone, and you vote for who you most align with, you know?
And so I guess my question is someone like Vivek who, like you guys were talking about, Trump, and it is a possibility that he could not be on the ballots or is out of the race.
And I find myself every day waking up, kind of liking Vivek a little more.
Obviously, there's a few things he's pretty bad on, but I feel like I could wake up tomorrow and he could have 180 on that.
So I guess my question is, like, in a presidential race, and I know Reckon Wald is a great candidate and we all love him, I'm sure.
But like, what is that line, would you say, with someone like Vivek where that conversation might happen?
Well, you know, it's where the line is is a little bit arbitrary, you know, because it's if you have a candidate who obviously, if let's say, let's say there was a candidate who was 90% good and had a 50% chance of winning.
You know what I mean?
Then like, okay, it makes sense to say, okay, let's, let's support that guy.
He's 90% good and there's a 50-50, he could win.
But let's say there's a candidate who is 90% good, but has a 5% chance of winning.
And then there's a candidate who's 100% good who has a 1% chance of winning.
It kind of makes sense to just go, I'm just going to support the 100% good because like, why the fuck am I compromising when the odds are so low already?
So it's a weird game where I don't know exactly what it means.
Now, if Donald Trump is removed and Vivek takes over and is in frontrunner status, we're going to have to have another conversation about what we think about all of this.
I like Vivek Ramaswamy a lot.
He's been on the podcast several times.
He's coming back on next week.
I like him a lot.
He's polling at like 2% right now.
So as of right now, I'm like, no, I'll just support someone who's not bad on China and Mexico.
If there was some type of drastic change there where he was really like had a chance to be president, then maybe I have to reassess that.
But all of that stuff, you know, I like, like I focus on what I think is right and wrong and what's really going on in this conflict or that conflict, what's really going on in the world.
When it gets into the game of politics, I'm already in a game that I'm not really comfortable being in.
But I will say that for the most part, I kind of follow the Ron Paul example, which is like there's a million people who are just playing the game.
I'm going to be the one who just tells the truth.
And we'll let the chips fall where they may.
You know, does that make sense?
Like, someone's got to just be like, let's just fucking tell the truth.
And then maybe that'll move the rest of the conversation over that.
So my thing is, I just try to get on like, I try to put myself on the biggest platforms in the middle of kind of like this national conversation and say the shit that I think is what needs to be said.
So again, though, look, if the fake Ramaswamy is like about to win the presidency and it's him versus Joe Biden neck and neck, yeah, maybe it would be a little bit ridiculous for me to be like, I'm out here supporting Michael Rectonwaltz.
Like I get that point.
So I don't know if that's a good answer or not, but that's kind of, thank you, brother.
Thank you for the question.
I appreciate it.
Also, I think Vivek is a fake Canadian.
You guys are in New Jersey.
You ever seen an Indian guy in America with that good teeth?
I don't think so.
Wow, that's a good fucking point.
Yeah.
Wow, that's good.
He's a Toronto tech bro.
I'm telling you.
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New Hampshire Secession Control00:13:40
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All right, let's get back into the show.
All right.
Second question.
My name's Lou.
What's up, dude?
Oh, yeah, not much.
Having a blast.
So I'm super white-pilled, not trying to sound black-pilled, but 2024 is good.
For people listening, that's not a racist comment.
Great distinction.
It's Michael Milas.
Not trying to sound black-pilled, but let's say 2024 goes really bad for everybody in this room.
And I'm glad you guys opened with Argentina because I've been thinking about, I've got like a kid and a wife and stuff.
What's your, is having a backup country gay?
Or dude, having a backup anything is gay.
That's the real question.
Guys, let the homosexual talk.
Look, not Jewish.
Do you have experience fleeing countries?
Is If you were hypothetically to flee the states, where have you ever even thought, like, where's the sort of place that you might think of going?
Because up until six months ago, I was not thinking Argentina.
But now that's changed.
Well, look.
I don't.
Listen, I'm not saying it's gay.
Like, some people like one country and some people like different countries, you know?
Look, I've never really had a thought of any other country as being like an escape.
I mean, I fucking, I'm still, I escaped from New York to New Jersey.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's about as far as I've gone.
And I've considered like, you know, like during the height of the COVID insanity, me and my wife had some talks where we were like, hey, if this keeps up, we might have to go to like Florida or Texas or something or New Hampshire.
But I've never really thought about like a foreign country.
I guess Argentina, maybe seeing how it goes, might be on the short list.
But my attitude is still like, fuck that.
This is the United States of America.
We're going to stay here.
And we're going to fucking make this work.
I mean, come on.
So many of these other countries are so goddamn backward.
And like, even Argentina, the reason why Malay won is because it's been so horrifically mismanaged for so many years.
So I'm not ready to bail on America yet.
I think like the whole point of what we do is like, no, we're fucking fighting to save this shit.
So that's my attitude.
I don't really have a great answer for what.
No, thank you.
I appreciate it.
Well, I didn't plan on introducing myself through everybody else has.
Hi, I'm Bonnie.
Hey, what's going on?
Hello?
Hi.
So I live in New Jersey, somewhat unfortunately, but I am a signer for the Free State Project, and I have a lot of hope for New Hampshire.
So my question is, do you think a secession movement, whether it be New Hampshire, Texas, California, or any other state, is a distraction or a move towards more human freedom?
Oh, I think it's 100% a move toward more human freedom.
But I think that at least the stage that we're in now, I think if we're being honest, is that it's the amazing things about secession movements, and whether that's New Hampshire talking about seceding or the Tegsit or even Cal Exit or like any of that, is that just stretching the Overton window into people accepting that like, yeah, maybe we could break apart.
And like that, I don't think that we're anywhere near a place where we're actually going to see a state secede in the immediate future.
You know, I think that's going to take time.
And I think that, you know, the truth is, and I don't like this, and I'm sure you don't either, but if any state tried to secede right now, the U.S. federal government will fucking put that shit down.
They will not let that happen.
There's no chance.
Yeah.
You don't think so?
There's historical precedent.
Well, what do you...
Well, my point is that, yeah, we have a lot more work to do before we get to a point where it could actually happen and be successful.
Do you think, what do you think?
You disagree with me?
You said, really?
Like, you think if...
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
I think so.
Because I think that I think it stretches the Overton window.
And I think it makes people look at the conversation and ask themselves a lot of questions and go, yeah, why aren't you allowed to secede?
Why are we all one country?
Like, what is it that pulls us together?
Why don't you have the freedom to do that?
But let's be clear, it's not going to happen right now.
And the reason it's not going to happen, and this is the disagreement that I have with some people in the Free State Project, although I really like what they're doing.
And I've been a supporter of them for many years.
But some of them will be like, they'll be like, you're wasting your time, Dave, going on these shows and talking about all this stuff.
You should just move to New Hampshire.
And that's what really matters.
And it's like, no, you're wrong.
Because you're not nearly in a place where you actually could secede yet.
And the only way that you're going to be able to do that is if the whole national conversation and national consciousness changes a whole lot more.
And that doesn't just mean people who are libertarians moving to New Hampshire.
That also means that people outside of New Hampshire believe in this libertarian value.
Because you're also going to need people outside of New Hampshire who are like against invading and forcing you guys back into the Union if you do try to secede.
Because right now, I mean, if there was any type of secessionist movement in any of the 50 states of America, it would be squashed immediately with overwhelming force, you know?
And so that's the state of things.
But I think the whole national divorce thing is like such a great, it's such a great thing that that's even in the conversation.
And even when you see people like, like I know Vivek at one point was like, no, I don't, I don't agree with national divorce.
And there were like a few other big politicians who had to respond to it.
And to me, even the fact that national politicians are having to give an answer on what they think about national divorce is fucking incredible.
Like that's amazing that they even have to go like, well, no, I don't think we should break up the United States of America.
I think we should have federalism or whatever.
It's like, okay, but I like that being the conversation, you know?
So I support all that shit.
I like how jersey it was that that chick didn't need a microphone.
What's Jersey?
Can I just also say?
I don't even know Mike.
Hey, Dave, here's my question.
Also, he hasn't a palm.
No, but can I just throw this out there to somebody who still lives in fucking Brooklyn, New York around people?
Like, here's the thing is, like, there's a lot of like, like, people get very, if you say the word secession, people immediately leap to slavery.
If you just go, well, what if Cal that's why like the California thing is great.
Because if you go, well, what if California seceded?
Would that be about slavery?
And they can't answer the question.
It is like a fantastic conversation.
That's a good point.
And to also just point out to him that it's like, hey, if California seceded, you know, you guys could have everything you want.
You'd have universal health care and all that shit.
You got the votes for fucking everything.
They could put G on the money.
Yeah.
There you go.
All right, Rob, what do we got?
Hey, what's up?
I've been following your show for about over a year.
How do you feel about the topic of mind control in America?
There's been plenty of evidence for about 20-something years as public knowledge about electronic mind control in America.
I've never heard it talked on your show.
Electronic mind control?
Yes, sir.
So what do you mean by that?
Oh, plenty of patents going back to the 70s.
No, but I mean, I don't.
Well, what's the first one?
Existence?
But like, what do you mean?
Like, mind influence.
Directed energy weapons, mind influence, Havana syndrome.
And you could extrapolate from there.
I just don't exactly control it.
No, we really can't, dude.
Okay, all right.
I got you.
I got you.
So, like, for example, like, how do you think they're controlling our minds?
I guess media, subliminal messaging, voice of skull technology.
Taylor Swift music.
You can say this.
I don't know.
I don't know what you're talking about.
I got delta ATHC.
I'll tell you that.
Taylor Swift music is controlling my mind.
I don't like this guy.
I knew he was trouble when he walked in.
Well, I don't know.
Look, I don't know.
I'm not like jumping down anything.
Like the subliminal shit.
I don't know.
Look, there is some truth to the fact that I think a lot of powerful people tried to play around with that shit.
You know, when there was the things like flashing messages in between, like, you know, commercials and stuff, they did try that for a while.
From what I've read about it, they basically all conceded it didn't work and like bailed on it.
But if you're talking about, like, if you're talking about mind control and propaganda, all you got to do is, I mean, look, this shit is all out in the open, but they've talked about this for over a hundred years now.
They've always been studying what's the best way to control people, you know, in a population.
What's the best way to propagandize them?
Back from fucking what's his name?
Ed Bernays.
They've always been looking for how exactly to propagandize a people.
It's the only way he could overthrow Hollandaise.
And look, and I think that that's the shit we talk about a lot on this show.
What they've really found is that Goebbels was basically the best model, is that you repeat a lie over and over and over again, and you have as many people in positions of authority that can keep repeating those lies, and eventually people just do believe it.
And you'll see it.
Look, I mean, like, we're all here.
I feel like everyone at this show is probably at least somewhat, you know, aware of what's going on.
But I'm sure all of us know someone who's like, they just think, yeah, Trump was involved in a Russian conspiracy.
And why do they think that?
I don't know, because like a man in a suit and a tie just kept saying it.
They said it over and over and over again.
So eventually they're like, yeah, well, this must be true.
It wouldn't have been said so many times if it wasn't true.
So I really do think that like the worst forms of mind control, I don't think it's anything like, you know, some crazy subliminal messages or anything like that.
I think it's just the propaganda that's right in front of our faces.
And as a lot of us, I'm sure, know, many people just fall for that.
And I don't even blame those people because, you know, it's not really their job to fucking see through all that shit.
It's, you know, in the same way, like, we all trust people.
We all just, it's a part of the human condition is that we all have expertise in very limited areas.
And even the smartest person, even the most well-educated person is ignorant on 99.9% of things.
That's just the way human beings work.
And when you, you know, if you're, if you have a problem with your electricity at home and you hire an electrician and he's like, okay, well, the problem is there's this outlet box that's fucked up and I got to go fix that and then I got to do this and that.
You tend to just go, all right.
He's the expert.
I'll trust him.
And there's a million examples like that.
And so what people tend to do is look to CNN and go, well, that's the guy who knows politics.
And they're just kind of defenseless to the fact that that guy's lying through his fucking teeth to them.
My answer to that is this show is to try to tell as many people as I can that that guy's lying through his fucking teeth to you.
So like, trust me, don't trust him kind of thing.
But so that's kind of my answer to that.
I don't think it's like any like weird, like subliminal techniques.
I think it's just good old-fashioned propaganda, and that's really the problem.
Or part of the problem.
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Should I say?
All right, let's take two more, Dave.
Two more.
All right.
One at the top of the stairs and then that guy over there.
All right, yeah, my name is Tony, and I'd like to hear more of a discussion about what I call the scandemic or pandemic.
You know, given that in 2020, there was no.
Wait, your name's Tony?
Yeah, Tony.
Get the fuck out of here, Fauci.
Tony Maresko.
He's doing a big deal.
He's a fucking voice over here.
By the way, even though, like, I feel like this is Yankee Stadiums, that I went up to the bleachers and found the fucking characters.
You know what I mean?
It gets so much more conspiratorial as you get to the top of the steps.
He's listening to this on an AM radio by himself.
That's just great.
The further and further up.
Like Rob goes all the way to the last level.
That's Tony Cutledge's fucking manager in the pinched web suit up there.
I like just getting to the last level and he goes, so dinosaurs ain't real.
How come you don't talk about that?
So this whole thing is flat, but the whole thing's round.
Go fuck yourself.
So anyway, that part I'm going to cut out.
It won't make the show.
But that was for you guys.
Even my good paper's line?
No, well, it won't work without my part.
One last question.
Last question.
Last question of 2023.
Thanks, Dave.
Thanks, everyone.
Welcome to Rutherford.
Not East Rutherford.
You've been saying East Rutherford for the past few weeks.
That's what I was told.
Are we not in East Rutherford?
Rutherford, New Jersey.
All right.
Where's East Rutherford?
East of here.
All right.
You know what?
I don't know.
I should have figured that out.
No.
Rob, that's Rob's fault.
He told me this was East Rutherford.
I don't know why I said that.
Dude, I've been on a farm in the middle of nowhere, and fucking Rob would just be like, what's up, Nashville?
And then I'd get up on stage and I'd be like, what's up, East Nashville?
Oh, sorry.
My guy told me it was East Nashville.
So I wanted to know if you ever read the book, The Storm Before the Calm.
It talks about institutional cycles that are 80 years long and socioeconomic cycles that are 50 years long.
And in the mid-2020s to 2030, they're going to converge.
And who knows?
Everything could change, we could hope, especially for the LP and all of us.
But if you haven't heard about it, no problem.
But like, from an LP standpoint, does it really matter who wins if it's Trump or Biden?
And maybe having four more years of Biden's shit show could actually wake even more people up to another alternative way of going after this thing.
So, no, I have not read that book.
But, you know, look, I'll be honest.
I'm a little bit skeptical about any of these books that talk about like cycles and what cycle we're in now.
And what I feel like, like, I don't know the book you're talking about, so I don't want to unfairly judge it.
But I know that there's always a lot of these books that go like, look, we're coming into the fourth awakening or we're coming into this new cycle now.
People will point to like the three things that they get absolutely right, but then totally ignore the 70 things that they get absolutely wrong that don't make sense at all.
So I'm not saying that's that book.
I haven't read it, but I am very skeptical about any of these books that everyone goes, yes, we have the explanation now about where we are.
So just with that as a disclaimer, I think that, and I've talked about this a lot, I think that what you're getting at there is a very important point.
And it's something that a lot of people have a lot of trouble grappling with.
That let's say you're a Trump supporter, it might be better for you for Biden to win.
And let's say you're a Biden supporter, it might be better for you for Trump to win.
And that's tough because we like to think of these things as kind of like simple contests and simple.
If my side wins, they win.
If my side loses, they lose.
But let's be real.
Who, Donald Trump winning in 2016?
Okay, if you're a Trump supporter, that was great for you.
Why?
Well, because you got to watch some compilation videos of the Young Turks and MSNBC people crying, which was great.
It was great for everybody.
I'm not saying that wasn't great.
It was phenomenal.
But like, what else, really tangibly, like what else was really great about that for you?
It's like, okay, it was the biggest ratings for CNN, the biggest money raising for the Southern Poverty Law, the Southern Poverty Law Center, for the ADL, for every left-wing organization.
What happened with like wokeism?
Did it slow down over Donald Trump's period?
No, it accelerated.
It's not like the pendulum swung back to the right because Donald Trump won.
It just swung even further to the left.
And then his final year in office was 2020.
Was that a great year for America?
Or was it the worst year in modern American history?
So it's not like so clear that just winning a political victory, unless there's actually a plan of action attached to it, means anything.
And yeah, like look, Joe Biden was elected and where are we now?
Donald Trump's up in the polls bigger than he ever you ever could have imagined him up.
And so there is this kind of counterintuitive thing where sometimes if you're not prepared to actually take power and enact some type of plan, it's better to have your enemy in there fucking everything up.
So I don't actually know what's better for America, like just in terms of who wins.
That's not really how I think about things.
What I think is more like what message gets out?
What like message do the American people hear that they've never heard before that might like wake people up?
Because I do think that's a whole different game than what, you know what I mean?
Like if you could imagine what the worst thing for a libertarian would be would be a libertarian winning and then things being a disaster, right?
That'd be the worst thing.
Because then they'd go, oh, we're never doing that again.
So maybe in a sense, the best thing would be the most anti-libertarian person winning and it being a disaster.
And then people going like, hey, let's look to alternatives.
That's kind of, you know, which is, yeah, luckily, that's what we have right now.
So, hey, listen, man, we're going to wrap this up now.
We're going to do, we're doing the room.
They set up, if you come, I actually go out up there.
There's the bar upstairs, and then right underneath, there's another room that I think they set up for us to party in.
So we're going to be in there having a drink.
Will be coming in there and taking pictures and saying hi to everybody in the next few minutes.
So give me like 10, 15 minutes and we'll be out there.
Guys, listen, this year has genuinely been the best year of my personal and professional life.
And I thank all of you guys so much for coming out tonight.