Part Of The Problem - Dave Smith - The Dirty Truth about The War Aired: 2023-12-08 Duration: 59:42 === Roll Back The State (02:52) === [00:00:00] Fill her up. [00:00:02] You are listening to the gas human. [00:00:08] We need to roll back the state. [00:00:10] We spy on all of our own citizens. [00:00:12] Our prisons are flooded with nonviolent drug offenders. [00:00:16] If you want to know who America's next enemy is, look at who we're funding right now. [00:00:21] Every single one of these problems are a result of government being way too big. [00:00:33] What's up, everybody? [00:00:34] Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. [00:00:37] I am Dave Smith. [00:00:38] He is Robbie the Fire Bernstein. [00:00:39] What's up, brother? [00:00:40] How you feeling today? [00:00:42] I'm working my ass off on the end of your thing, man. [00:00:44] It's crazy. [00:00:45] It's a lot of work. [00:00:46] Oh, yeah. [00:00:47] So you have your annual end of year celebration of life. [00:00:52] Tell people about it. [00:00:54] Come December 8th and 9th in New Hampshire at the shell. [00:00:56] It's probably the only time I'll run it live. [00:00:58] It's, you know, 25 minutes of new material never done before. [00:01:02] And I don't know, I might line up more dates, but it's always a thrill. [00:01:04] Come on out. [00:01:05] Hell yeah. [00:01:06] And then me and you are doing a big announcement. [00:01:08] We're doing a New Year's show with Robbie the Fire Bernstein, myself, tentatively, Chris Fega on that show as well, right here in, where is it, East Rutherford? [00:01:20] Yeah, I think it's like a half hour from New York City, real accessible. [00:01:23] If you're out in Jersey, it's a nice little small theater spot. [00:01:26] Very exclusive. [00:01:27] It's going to be a good time. [00:01:28] And it's going to be a whole like hang, meet and greet afterward, a live stand-up comedy show and a live part of the problem. [00:01:35] So this year, if you don't have plans for New Year's, if you're in the tri-state area, come on out and hang with me and Rob for New Year's. [00:01:42] That should be a lot of fun. [00:01:43] All right. [00:01:45] So there was a piece in the Wall Street Journal that was just fantastic. [00:01:51] And I swear to God, I read the piece and then the next day I watched Breaking Points, which is they've done a very good job, I think, with coverage of the war in Gaza. [00:02:05] I think they've been really about as thoughtful and nuanced as I could imagine. [00:02:09] But Crystal opened the show by saying, I swear to God, exactly what I thought when I read the title of it, but I will give her credit. [00:02:16] She got it out first. [00:02:17] So here, I'm taking from her. [00:02:20] But it is just the, like, it's just the perfect summation of U.S. foreign policy toward Israel. [00:02:28] But so this is the headline from the Washington Post. [00:02:32] I'm sorry, it's from the Wall Street Journal. [00:02:33] Excuse me. [00:02:34] The headline is, U.S. sends Israel 2,000-pound bunker buster bombs for Gaza war. [00:02:43] And the subtitle is, after seeing massive bombs, artillery shells, U.S. also urges Israel to limit civilian casualties. === Wall Street Journal Headline (07:28) === [00:02:53] So isn't that it right there? [00:02:55] You're like, hey, listen, we noticed you've been killing a whole lot of civilians with these bombs. [00:02:58] Now here's a 2,000-pounder. [00:03:00] Try not to kill too many civilians with this when we know exactly what they're going to do with it. [00:03:05] Yeah, they sent him the bigger bunker busting bombs and said, but be careful with these guys. [00:03:12] You think those things will kill people? [00:03:14] Let me show you something that'll kill people. [00:03:16] Try not to kill people with it, though. [00:03:18] You know what I mean? [00:03:19] And so it's just, it's really something to see where, particularly because it's a Democratic administration and there is a very large portion of the left half of America who is totally against this war. [00:03:36] And the political reality of the situation is quite often you need the most radical elements within your coalition to be on board for you. [00:03:52] It's a dynamic in politics where the People who are radical, and I know that that is a somewhat like the word is it's all about perspective, right? [00:04:05] Like it doesn't matter what, you know, if you were advocating democracy in the middle of Nazi Germany, then you'd be a radical, you know what I mean? [00:04:14] But if you're advocating democracy in a democratic country, you're not so much, but whatever. [00:04:18] But I'm just saying, when I say radical, I just mean that in the way what would be considered a radical under today's in today's society. [00:04:25] The radicals tend to really care. [00:04:29] They really care about their political views. [00:04:33] Moderates don't, on average, care as much. [00:04:38] There's usually a moderate, a guy who's kind of like, I don't know, I like a liberal Republican or a conservative Democrat. [00:04:44] I'm kind of, you know, I could, I could vote for Joe Manchin or I could vote for, you know, whoever, some, you know, Mitt Romney or something like that. [00:04:53] That guy isn't like passionate about politics in the same way that, say, a Rashida Tlaib supporter is. [00:05:03] You know what I mean? [00:05:04] And so when you have this dynamic in American politics, I'm sure this is true all around the world, but where you really need those people to be as much on board as you can get them. [00:05:17] Because these are the people who are going to volunteer for you. [00:05:19] These are the people who are going to, you know, like door knock for you. [00:05:22] These are the people who are going to riot for you. [00:05:25] You know, like whatever the need may be. [00:05:27] You want those people on your side. [00:05:29] And so the Democrats have really, in that sense, had a gift in Donald Trump over the last six years or so, because every radical leftist hates Donald Trump. [00:05:41] So that's at least something you can get them on your side about. [00:05:44] See, we ain't them. [00:05:45] But the problem that Joe Biden's administration is having here politically is that all of those radicals who are who might vote for the Democratic ticket, all the Rashida Tlaib supporters are totally against this war. [00:06:03] Now, they may also have, you know, these are leftists. [00:06:06] So they also have a bunch of dumb views that me and you would disagree with. [00:06:10] And even when they're on our side of an issue, they'll probably make us look as bad as we possibly can when they're, you know what I mean? [00:06:17] Like they'll all, you, you hate for them to be speaking for your cause. [00:06:21] However, they're all completely against this. [00:06:23] So now Biden is caught in what is a fairly typical predicament for U.S. politicians to be caught in, where you have to, you're really doing the bidding of, you know, very powerful special interests, but you've got to convince these radicals to come along on this journey with you. [00:06:45] So Joe Biden is not about to going into a reelection year, if he is aware that he's going into a reelection year. [00:06:52] He's not about to lose the Israeli lobby and all of the like that type of support. [00:06:58] He's not going to risk doing that. [00:07:01] But at the same time, he has to try to appease the radical leftists within his voting base. [00:07:08] So this is why you see this constant, this balancing act of being like, you know, Blinkett going over there and being like, we really want you to stop killing so many people. [00:07:18] Now take all the money and weapons you need to kill innocent people. [00:07:22] And the dynamic is pretty fascinating where, you know, I don't know if you saw, but Blinken reportedly said, you have weeks, not months to Israel. [00:07:34] Basically being like, yo, you have to do what you're going to do and wrap this up. [00:07:37] This can't continue like this. [00:07:39] And Netanyahu, the next day, basically just said, like, this is going to be a long war. [00:07:44] He just was basically like, and it was a direct response to that. [00:07:47] It was a direct like, yo, America, you don't tell us what to do. [00:07:51] And it's really, it's pretty amazing when you think about the fact that like we give this country billions of dollars every year. [00:08:00] We totally protect them from the rest of the world. [00:08:03] And yet we are just totally dismissed. [00:08:06] Netanyahu, if you guys have never seen, there's that secret video tape of him when he's speaking real bluntly to some fellow Israelis. [00:08:15] And this has always been a huge part, a huge part. of Netanyahu's kind of pitch politically for himself. [00:08:24] Is that what he said? [00:08:25] If you remember, Rob, because I know you've seen it too in that video, he goes, I can move the Americans. [00:08:30] He goes, 80% of them support us. [00:08:33] It's absurd. [00:08:34] Like he himself is just going. [00:08:36] And part of the reason why he is what his sell was is that he speaks English so perfectly. [00:08:43] And he can come over here and give a speech to Congress or to Fox News or whatever and totally move the American opinion. [00:08:53] And he is not intimidated by American presidents. [00:08:56] It's another thing that he was saying in that secret recording. [00:09:00] When I say secret recording, it's just they left the video camera on and just let him keep talking when he thought it was off. [00:09:05] This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. 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[00:10:44] I think our first, I have to go back and check, but I think our first show on this was on October 8th. [00:10:51] I think we did a show the day after the attack, or we recorded it the day after the attack. [00:10:56] It was one of the ones in a hotel room. [00:10:57] I can't remember where we were. [00:10:59] I think it was at the casino up at Mohegan Sun. [00:11:03] We did one in my hotel room. [00:11:06] But I think you said pretty early on in this that you were like, the Israel is going to have a really tough time selling this. [00:11:12] It's just not going to go over well. [00:11:14] Well, I highly encourage people to go read John Robb's Substack piece. [00:11:20] It's called Israel's Online Front Collapses. [00:11:23] And they're basically talking about what you predicted all coming true. [00:11:27] And that the whole in terms of like, in terms of like TV media, Israel's still kind of doing okay, controlling the narrative. [00:11:35] But in terms of online, it has just totally collapsed and support for them has just evaporated. [00:11:42] And before we even get into, I mean, the claim I had made is I just watched a building collapse. [00:11:48] I don't know how you sell this. [00:11:49] Like you just got put under a microscope. [00:11:52] We're seeing what's happening. [00:11:53] I don't know how you spin this. [00:11:54] It doesn't make me feel good. [00:11:55] I'm watching you kill civilians. [00:11:56] Like I can see it when I can literally see it. [00:11:58] It's very hard to escape it, spin it, say, well, we dropped a leaflet leaflet. [00:12:02] We told them they have to leave. [00:12:04] You can, I just saw it. [00:12:05] I saw a building with civilians collapse. [00:12:07] I don't know. [00:12:09] It's like watching the Twin Towers collapse. [00:12:11] I saw it. [00:12:11] I saw it happen. [00:12:12] You're not going to spin it the other way. [00:12:14] You're not going to tell me, well, like they were harboring terrorists. [00:12:17] The kids in there deserve. [00:12:18] Like, I don't know what you're going to tell me. [00:12:19] I literally, I saw it, but Israel is also seemingly cartoonishly bad at social media when they did that campaign on the kids' videos where, hey, we know that your child can't see this, but give them a hug for their loved ones because we just lost ours and now we need your support. [00:12:35] And then they had, they, I mean, this was incredible. [00:12:38] They kept claiming that the, uh, that they needed to go after that hospital because it was the main uh artery or it was the main base that they were running operations out of. [00:12:48] And then they got this video. [00:12:49] It was this Al-Shifa hospital. [00:12:51] Yeah. [00:12:51] Yeah. [00:12:52] And then there's still, and then they pivoted really quickly to, well, we're still looking for evidence and look, there's a tunnel here. [00:12:58] And then there was like less guns than what I've seen when, you know, the police do a raid on a building in New York City and they go, look at all the guns we took off the street. [00:13:07] And then they had this guy who goes, look, tunnel, Hamas. [00:13:10] And then instantly, you know, they were just making fun of that guy online and putting him pointing at like hobbits and stuff. [00:13:15] Look, Hamas. [00:13:16] So the crazy part about that, did we ever talk about this? [00:13:19] So for people who don't know, what happened here was Israel had a raid on a hospital. [00:13:26] And let's just say the standards are pretty high for how that would ever be legally permissible in a war. [00:13:37] And so Israel put out this like computer generated graphic of what was under the hospital. [00:13:46] And it was like, it reminded me of one of those Osama bin Laden, you know, remember they used to do his caves where he had these crazy, like high sophisticated with tons of computers. [00:13:56] All turned out to be complete bullshit. [00:13:57] They just made up these images. [00:13:58] It's literally no different than when my daughter draws a picture and just makes something up out of her imagination. [00:14:04] He's working with porn tapes. [00:14:05] He didn't even have internet. [00:14:06] Yeah. [00:14:06] Yeah. [00:14:07] He was jerking off the magazine. [00:14:09] Yeah. [00:14:09] I was going to say Osama bin Laden and the other Al-Qaeda guys all had to go to the woods to try to find a porno mag. [00:14:16] But so they put out this, the Israeli government put out this computer generated image of how sophisticated this thing was. [00:14:23] And that this was the central command for Hamas. [00:14:28] And so we just had to raid this hospital. [00:14:30] And yes, it's tragic and we hate that we had to do it, but we did. [00:14:32] So then they go and what they show us as proof were a couple of rifles in one of the rooms in the hospital. [00:14:41] Now, look, maybe those were that we really just have no way of knowing because also the IDF doesn't let journalists come in until they've cleared the area. [00:14:52] So we have no way of knowing whether these rifles were planted there or the rifles were really there. [00:14:58] But I'm perfectly willing to believe that they were, in fact. [00:15:02] And I think there was one person who worked at the hospital who did say that like some Hamas guys had been in the hospital and stuff. [00:15:08] So not even claiming all that's, none of that's accurate. [00:15:12] But then they basically showed you the opening to a tunnel. [00:15:19] And they, so they show you the opening to a tunnel and they go, look, see, tunnel. [00:15:25] And then journalists wanted to go in. [00:15:27] They won't let them. [00:15:27] They said, we can't go in because it might be booby-trapped. [00:15:30] And look, again, fair enough, it might be booby-trapped. [00:15:33] If that is a Hamas tunnel, you're like, yeah, that seems like it's a reasonable thing that could happen. [00:15:37] Maybe it takes time to get in there. [00:15:39] Then, very strangely, in an interview, the former prime minister of Israel, Barack, is talking to this interviewer and they go, they ask him, how can you be sure that there are tunnels under this hospital? [00:15:57] And he goes, well, we know there's tunnels under the hospital because we built them. [00:16:02] And he goes, I'm sorry, did you misspeak? [00:16:04] You're saying you built them? [00:16:05] And he's like, yes, we built them. [00:16:07] He goes, we built this tunnel under this hospital back when we occupied Gaza. [00:16:12] I didn't hear about that part of it. [00:16:14] So now he says, and the reason for it was something about how they wanted to expand the hospital or something like that. [00:16:20] So once that's said, you go, oh, well, now just discovering a tunnel isn't evidence of anything. [00:16:27] Now, it's possible that Hamas took over these tunnels that Israel was building and we're using them, but now just showing me a tunnel doesn't mean anything because Israel built the tunnel. [00:16:36] You already knew the tunnel was there. [00:16:38] Anyway, they claim that they found some more weapons in this after they had like robots going or something like that. [00:16:45] But the bottom line is that. [00:16:47] They walked it back. [00:16:48] It's pivoted to we're looking for evidence and look, there's a tunnel and look it, there's this, which was a very different claim. [00:16:53] And then nothing like that computer generated image that they first used as a justification to go sack this hospital. [00:17:01] And really horrible. [00:17:02] I mean, you know, I don't even want to like get into some of it, but there's some really gruesome stories of what happened as a result of that raid to the hospital. [00:17:09] There's also something cartoonish. [00:17:12] You know, Israel said that they're going to be scouring the globe and going after the Hamas people responsible. [00:17:18] And you hear that and me and I'm like, fucking awesome. [00:17:20] That's an action movie right there. [00:17:22] You want to go take out the terrorists, get your SEAL teams going? [00:17:25] I'm all for it. [00:17:26] That sounds like a win. [00:17:27] You're not targeting civilians or going after the people actually responsible. [00:17:31] But then I the problem is I read everything. [00:17:34] I can't source it all, but I seem to also see Israel saying that they won't be going after the hierarchy that's in Qatar. [00:17:40] So I guess that that's the people that they have to actually negotiate with. [00:17:43] So it's like, if the main people who are the billionaires living in Qatar are off the table, so then what's the point of this whole thing? [00:17:50] Like what? [00:17:51] Well, the thing is, which a lot of people try to make, you know, like Scott makes this point a lot when he's talking about it, but it is true. [00:18:00] But when you go, when you start talking about a conflict and you talk about it in terms of like Israel versus Palestine, to the average person who's not really keeping up with this, it kind of just sounds like they already have a country. [00:18:18] You know what I mean? [00:18:19] Like, because everyone's got a country. [00:18:21] So if you're talking about Israel-Palestine, it's like if you were talking about China, Japan, or something like that. [00:18:26] Like it's almost a given that each of them have their own government, right? [00:18:30] Because that's the way everyone works. [00:18:33] But that's not the case when it comes to Palestine. [00:18:36] And so people try to be like, oh, well, you know, they had an election once in 2006 and they voted for Hamas. [00:18:44] So Hamas is their government. [00:18:46] But Hamas isn't a government. [00:18:48] They're not a government. [00:18:49] They're kind of like, you know, like the toughest gang in an Israeli prison. [00:18:54] There's like a better way to think about them. [00:18:57] That's that's closer to what you're really dealing with. [00:19:00] And so you have, this isn't like a well-oiled machine, like the way we think of like the United States federal government. [00:19:08] Now, obviously, we cover this sometimes where there are instances where there's kind of insubordination or, you know, you think about how the way the Pentagon misled Donald Trump and certain instances. [00:19:18] But in general, if the military takes an action, then it's kind of a given in our assumption that somebody ordered that action. [00:19:29] Right. [00:19:29] Like it went up the list, the chain of commands. [00:19:32] Maybe a general ordered it or whatever, or maybe someone who he had authorized to order it ordered it. [00:19:37] And ultimately, there's a president of the United States who's the commander in chief who's kind of responsible for this whole policy. [00:19:44] At least that's largely how we think of things here. [00:19:48] It's not exactly that clear with Hamas. [00:19:50] So you have kind of what is more the political wing of Hamas, many of whom are in Qatar. [00:19:57] And then you have like the militias, like the militants on the ground. [00:20:01] And it's not exactly clear how much of the political wing of Hamas was even in on this. [00:20:12] Like there was some reporting of some of them not even knowing this was going to happen or that this was a thing. [00:20:17] And you'll hear these some of these guys in interviews, they'll say things like, after the fact, they'll be like, we didn't target any innocent civilians on October 7th. [00:20:27] We only went after military, which is totally not true. [00:20:31] That's not what happened on the ground. [00:20:32] But then you also realize that like they may not even really know what the hell happened. [00:20:36] So Israel is kind of negotiating with some of these people. [00:20:39] They also don't exactly exert full control over the, it's all just like, you know, I don't know, a weird kind of dynamic because you got to think of this a little bit more like the way a gang would operate than the way a government would operate. === Personal Gold Standard (02:05) === [00:20:56] Right. 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[00:22:44] That's monetary-metals.com slash P-O-T-P. [00:22:48] All right, let's get back into the show. [00:22:50] Okay. [00:22:50] Anyway, there was a devastating expose that was put out by 972 magazine. === Tucker Carlson Expose (16:01) === [00:23:01] What is that? [00:23:02] I've never, aside from you sending it to me, I'm not familiar with them. [00:23:05] You know, I'm not super familiar with them either. [00:23:08] But they, here, let me actually, since you say that, mindset. [00:23:13] Well, they got three numbers. [00:23:15] They must be fancy, you know? [00:23:16] I mean, yeah, obviously they're serious. [00:23:19] I don't, you know, I think I've read a couple things in them before. [00:23:23] They're basically like in somewhat independent news outlet that focuses on Israel and Palestine. [00:23:32] But anyway, there was this major expose. [00:23:34] Now, I will preface this as always with kind of a disclaimer that there's, you know, these things are, these are, this is a report put together with source from sources within the Israeli government. [00:23:55] As we know, these things are not always, don't always turn out to be 100% accurate. [00:24:00] It's also particularly difficult in the fog of war to always size up like which, what report exactly has got it right? [00:24:08] What's got it wrong? [00:24:09] One thing to keep in mind about this is that it's not in almost every war, there are lies and there are people who get it wrong and stuff like that. [00:24:20] I will say this expose is pretty damning and it seems to jive pretty well with what we know is going on, with what we know we've been seeing. [00:24:32] And basically what they put out is that, so here I'll say this. [00:24:38] This is the title of the piece. [00:24:41] It's a mass assassination factory inside Israel's calculated bombing of Gaza. [00:24:48] Permissive airstrikes on non-military targets and the use of an artificial intelligence system have enabled the Israeli army to carry out its deadliest war on Gaza, a 792 and local call investigation reveals. [00:25:02] And basically, I mean, I recommend people read it. [00:25:06] There's a lot of damning stuff in there, but the most devastating part is that they've got sources within the Israeli government who basically are telling them that we've been intentionally targeting civilian buildings with like some loose connection to like maybe one, [00:25:26] you know, like Hamas guy might be there and we're taking down high-rise buildings over it and that they were doing it intentionally to kind of create chaos and make life so miserable for the civilians there that they then turn on Hamas. [00:25:45] And if you look at what we've been seeing over the last six weeks or so, it just seems that seems like a much more reasonable explanation than we're just doing this precise targeting of Hamas to make sure and try to kill as few civilians as possible. [00:26:05] And it doesn't seem to be what we're looking at at all. [00:26:09] So they're targeting strategic assets, even if they're civilian assets, that they think, well, what does that just mean? [00:26:20] Like wealthier people's houses, people that have like a little bit more influence, that if they can turn whatever the Gaza middle class is to go, you know what, this sucks even more than just being under Israel. [00:26:31] I don't know that it's just like I don't know whether their economic standing like comes into it at all, but it seems more like it's just like causing like civilian deaths and destructions of their homes to get them pretty pissed off at Hamas for what they did to them. [00:26:49] It's kind of like the same theory of sanctions just applied to actual warfare. [00:26:56] And of course, the major problem with this, both with sanctions and with this type of mentality, is that this just, first, I mean, obviously it's horrific. [00:27:06] And it's Israel, if this is all true, Israel's lying about what they're really doing in this war. [00:27:13] And it also just never works. [00:27:16] That never works. [00:27:18] I don't know. [00:27:19] Correct me if I'm wrong. [00:27:20] I don't think there's one example of this ever working ever. [00:27:24] Because the stated purpose of these sanction regimes that we have is always that we will, they basically say we're trying to turn the domestic population against their government, which if you just read between the lines there just a little bit, it's pretty gruesome what you're saying. [00:27:41] Like we are going to make people in poorer countries where people are poorer than the poorest person you've ever met. [00:27:48] And we're going to impoverish them so much more, make life so miserable for regular people that they'll rise up and overthrow, you know, whoever it may be, whether it's the government of Cuba or Venezuela or Iran or North Korea or Russia or whoever it is. [00:28:05] But has that ever happened in any one of those places? [00:28:10] Like all the ones I just rattled off are the same regimes are still in power. [00:28:14] Because it doesn't, it has the opposite effect. [00:28:16] And you're just going to get it so much worse when you're talking about dropping bombs on apartment buildings. [00:28:21] What it creates is a rally around the flag effect where, you know, people rally around their own government, who they think is their best shot at protecting them. [00:28:32] And in this case, you know, that's going to be around the gang that's protecting you. [00:28:40] Or, I mean, certainly are not doing a good job of it, but at least you see best. [00:28:44] I mean, it's never going to make, you know, it's never going to convince people that you're actually the good one when you're ruining their lives intentionally. [00:28:52] So that's kind of where we're left. [00:28:55] There's also, there's something very lacking in the coverage, which is, you know, I don't know if they completely cleared out the North, but I guess they were sending people from the North to the South. [00:29:06] They got them in the South and they're like, all right, well, now you guys have to, I guess, go further south. [00:29:10] And they were claiming like, well, there would be air, it's like, where are these people going? [00:29:14] What are they living off of? [00:29:16] How much more can they be funneled? [00:29:18] Like, and if you continuously funnel them, aren't you also concentrating Hamas along with them? [00:29:23] Like, I don't know. [00:29:23] There's something just missing about what the actual dynamics are. [00:29:27] The other thing, and this even comes from some of the alternative sources that I find interesting was, you know, people were saying that soldiers in Gaza would be just decimated because of the underground system, that I guess they would just come up and just, you know, the soldiers would be swarmed. [00:29:42] But it seems like Israel's pretty successfully running ground operations that might even challenge. [00:29:48] I guess they can claim that they needed to clear out strategic buildings in order for the military to be able to be there and on the ground. [00:29:55] But just visually, looking at the map of Gaza and how it compares to, you know, basically the Bronx in Manhattan, it seems like you've gone from like, you know, basically the Bronx all the way, like that hospital would be the equivalent of, I think I did the math on my show. [00:30:08] It was like 168th Street or so. [00:30:10] It's like, that's covering a lot of ground with your soldiers tour. [00:30:14] So it's just, I was thinking about this today. [00:30:17] It's like, where's just the news coverage of where are these people supposed to be funneled to? [00:30:21] You know, like we almost get so lost in the idea that they're like that they're bombing civilians, but even just being told, like, you just tell me I got to just leave my house. [00:30:28] Yeah. [00:30:29] And then it's like on you if you don't. [00:30:31] Yeah. [00:30:31] And then and go where to survive how for what amount of time. [00:30:36] And then the other part that's just missing from this conversation completely of Blinken handing over the bombs and going, hey, here's more missiles, but don't use them, but they're more powerful, but don't use them is zero conversation thus far what the plan is once I guess they clear out Hamas. [00:30:50] What are we doing so that you don't end up with ISIS power vacuum? [00:30:53] Like they're floating some ideas out, but it's not clear what exactly is going to happen. [00:31:00] And, you know, if they, so anyway, a few things you said there. [00:31:05] It's a, it's important to understand. [00:31:06] So basically since the ceasefire collapsed, there's Israel has begun its ground offensive in southern Gaza. [00:31:16] And as Rob pointed out, this was the area where they were telling everybody to go escape to, like get out of the north if you don't want to die. [00:31:25] So now there's a ton of people down there. [00:31:26] And now they're telling them other parts within southern Gaza of where they should go. [00:31:31] So again, just insisting these people move more and more. [00:31:34] And, you know, Israel will almost, it's a very strange thing because Israel will almost say that like they take this to their credit. [00:31:44] They're like, look, we're going out of our way to tell these people to move. [00:31:47] So less of them die. [00:31:48] But then it's like this entire conversation, whenever you speak to somebody who's like on the pro-Israeli side, the entire conversation is always, whether they say it explicitly or not, is always predicated on the idea that like, yeah, well, these people don't have any rights. [00:32:03] So whatever crumbs we give them is like, isn't this generous of us to be like, hey, look, we're dropping leaflets before we tell you to leave your home because we're about to destroy it. [00:32:12] You know, but yeah, well, what right do you have to do that? [00:32:14] It's that's never like, oh, no, no, no, this isn't a question of what rights we have. [00:32:18] These people don't have rights. [00:32:19] So like, whatever, they got to move. [00:32:21] Yeah. [00:32:21] How exactly are these people like, I forget the UN terminology, I think they said it was 50% of Gaza had extreme food insecurity, which I don't know exactly what the, what that means, but yeah, you'd imagine people in that condition, the idea of just moving, like, and I don't mean moving the way me or you move if we like get a new place and hire a moving truck, just like you, what you can carry on your back, go. [00:32:51] Yeah, what does that actually look like? [00:32:52] How, how feasible is that? [00:32:55] And so anyway, that's the state of it now where it looks like Israel is about to kind of, you know, do something similar to the South that they did to the North. [00:33:04] And then the other thing that Netanyahu himself and a few other high-level Israeli government people have said is, you know, this idea about how other countries need to take them in. [00:33:19] Other countries need to take them in. [00:33:21] They're very happy to arrange for everybody else to deal with this problem. [00:33:28] It's like, hey, listen, it's such a weird thing. [00:33:30] And then they say it like in the same way when they talk about dropping leaflets, like the Israel will say it as if this is to their credit. [00:33:39] They're like, listen, we, we don't want to see these people caught up in the middle of this war. [00:33:43] So we are really advocating that everybody else take them in. [00:33:47] Like we really don't want to say you got help us ethnically cleanse these people so they don't get killed in this war. [00:33:52] It's like real, it's unbelievable. [00:33:54] This is just their business. [00:33:55] And this is also part of the reason why. [00:33:57] And I think this is part of what you were getting at before, where you just like, you were able to look at this pretty early on and go, man, you are not going to win this narrative war. [00:34:07] You're just not going to win this. [00:34:09] It's just impossible to look away. [00:34:11] And it's interesting having conversations with people who, you know, I've done a couple debates on this topic so far. [00:34:17] I think I got another one coming up. [00:34:20] And it does seem like for the most part, the people who are cheerleading this war are just kind of don't want to deal with the facts, you know, like these sticky little facts like that they've been occupying them ever since. [00:34:38] I mean, I would ever since 1967, that is. [00:34:41] Sorry. [00:34:42] Total, total ADD moment, but that was you've become people already saying on Twitter, Voldemort, the name that can't be mentioned. [00:34:50] They refuse to acknowledge your existence. [00:34:52] Someone, yeah. [00:34:57] Well, there was first, it was the Blaze put out a thing where they were like interviewer says this, Tucker Carlson, which I thought was crazy. [00:35:04] It's like, hey, I've done Glenn Beck's show twice, man. [00:35:07] Like, you guys know me. [00:35:08] I know like a bunch of people who work at the Blaze. [00:35:12] So that was pretty funny. [00:35:13] Oh, someone did. [00:35:14] Wait, oh, I can't remember it. [00:35:16] And I think I forgot to message them back. [00:35:18] Someone from the Blaze reached out and apologized to me for that. [00:35:22] And they were like, sorry. [00:35:24] It's like, whoever runs the social media, I just didn't know you, but we apologize. [00:35:27] We didn't mean any disrespect or whatever. [00:35:28] So I was totally cool with them. [00:35:30] Like, whatever, that happens. [00:35:31] But then Ben Shapiro did a segment on the me and Tucker Carlson thing. [00:35:40] He was really offended by Tucker Carlson saying he didn't like Bill Buckley. [00:35:46] Right. [00:35:47] But then he just mentioned he goes some comedian who evidently has a libertarian. [00:35:52] And the thing that was just funny to me about that is that he didn't even, there was a viral clip that was going around of it, but he played a longer version of it. [00:36:02] So like they went and found, it's like, it's my show. [00:36:07] Like, it's not even like I was just on. [00:36:09] It's not like he was just like, Joe Rogan had this guest on, you know, who said this, which is, you can kind of understand where someone, like, all right, like, I'm not fucking famous. [00:36:17] Maybe he doesn't know who I am. [00:36:19] And he's watching Joe Rogan's show. [00:36:21] So he's just like, I don't know, the latest guests for his name, I can't remember at the moment. [00:36:24] But he was, he sought out my show and pulled a clip from that. [00:36:29] And I have the easiest name to remember. [00:36:31] I know he saw my name there at some point. [00:36:33] Well, maybe he'll contend with the second clip where he actually breaks down why he thought Buckley is one of the villains of American history. [00:36:42] Well, he doesn't, I don't think he wants to do that. [00:36:45] But yeah, it's, I don't think he actually wants to take on the argument. [00:36:49] I said, I, I, uh, I tweeted at him about it, and the tweet got a whole bunch of uh, whole bunch of eyeballs on it. [00:36:56] But, um, man up, Ben Shapiro, debate Scott or Dave. [00:36:59] Let's do it. [00:36:59] Come on. [00:37:00] Yeah, man. [00:37:01] I'm, I mean, I definitely think it should happen. [00:37:02] I think it's uh, it's, I think in this space where we are, in this kind of new world, um, where there's been this revolution in and really nothing short of a revolution in the way people get their news, they get their political commentary, things like that. [00:37:24] When you're in this world, um, I do think there kind of is an obligation for debate that comes along, um, particularly when you're someone like Ben Shapiro, who kind of uh you sell yourself as I'm a debate guy. [00:37:44] Now, I understand there are some people who don't like to do debates, and I don't hold that against them. [00:37:48] I mean, I think there are some people who might be like excellent researchers, but they're like, debate isn't really my thing. [00:37:54] I don't specialize in that. [00:37:56] But Ben Shapiro's whole thing is like, I specialize in debate, just only college kids, you know. [00:38:02] And I do think that there's a certain point where when if you're kind of like the leading voice in this internet world for, you know, I support this war and Israel is just and right in everything they do. [00:38:18] Um, I do kind of think you have a little bit of an obligation. [00:38:21] It doesn't have to be me or Scott. [00:38:23] Scott, I think, is the guy for that one. [00:38:25] I think that's his debate would be what would make sense. [00:38:28] But you'd think somebody, you'd think like what Max Blumenthal or I don't know, somebody out there who is kind of like Glenn Greenwald, perhaps, or Finkelstein, or just like one of the figures, you would pick one and you'd kind of have to like have this debate, like hash this out. [00:38:51] Because it's, it's, you know, when people like Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager, I mean, when they talk, it's cartoonish the way they talk about this conflict. === Obligation To Debate (03:40) === [00:39:03] And I, you know, I try my best to not be the equal opposite of that because I certainly don't want to be that. [00:39:12] But there's like, you know, like, I mean, their videos on the history of Israel are literally, and I'm not exaggerating, but the videos are like, one side wants peace and the other side wants war. [00:39:23] One side says, hey, let's live as neighbors. [00:39:25] And the other side says, a la Akbar and blows himself up. [00:39:28] And like, that's the entire story. [00:39:30] No more you need to know other than that. [00:39:32] There is no more complexity. [00:39:34] There's no major safe. [00:39:35] Safe and effective. [00:39:36] Yeah, really, exactly. [00:39:38] It's the safe and effective of, by the way, you know, I will say it's not like a one-to-one thing exactly, but a whole bunch of those same people did totally support the facts when it was coming out. [00:39:49] You know, it's whatever. [00:39:50] Not that that proves anything on its own, but there is something. [00:39:53] There's something there. [00:39:56] Anyway, I think I've like, I feel like I have an obligation to do debates regularly. [00:40:02] I think it's kind of like it comes with the territory that I'm like, okay, if I'm the like a libertarian guy out there who's got like a pretty decent following and then I'm saying, hey, I think we should do libertarian shit, that I have an obligation every now and then to like confront somebody who's saying, I don't think we should do that and have a compelling case, you know? [00:40:26] But it is, I do think it's, it's weak that Ben Shapiro is not, is not doing that, especially right now in this moment. [00:40:35] I mean, you're supporting this, like the ongoing war right now, which is a really big deal. [00:40:42] And obviously there's a whole bunch of pushback to that. [00:40:46] And you have done a lot of kind of smearing the people who are pushing back against that, denouncing them as anti-Semites or whatever. [00:40:53] And then whatever, there are some, you know, but like, shouldn't you be obligated to kind of like have your ideas challenged and defend them in real time and let someone respond to your responses and rebuttals to your rebuttals? [00:41:06] That's, that's what I would say. [00:41:07] But hey, what do you, I can't control what Ben Shapiro does. [00:41:12] And I have a feeling he's, there's, I have a feeling there's a near 0% chance he debates Scott Horton or me for that matter. [00:41:19] But anyway, so it wouldn't, the truth is that it wouldn't be a smart business move for him to do that. [00:41:27] So, you know, there's, there's what you think is right and what the kind of your moral obligation, I think, is in this situation. [00:41:35] And then there's what's a smart business move. [00:41:37] And the truth is for Ben Shapiro to say debate Scott Horton, he's debating somebody who has a much smaller audience than him. [00:41:46] So it's not like he's getting extra eyeballs on him. [00:41:49] He'd be putting extra eyeballs on Scott and he's somebody who's going to tear him to pieces. [00:41:56] So it's like, what? [00:41:57] Like, is he going to be as stupid as Bill Crystal was and go debate Scott Horton? [00:42:02] Like, what, what good did that do Bill Crystal? [00:42:05] You know, as I kind of knew with Bill Crystal too, when him and Scott Horton debated, I kind of knew, I think I remember telling Scott this at the time that I was like, oh, this is a big one. [00:42:15] And this is going to be your last big one. [00:42:18] So like, enjoy it. [00:42:19] Enjoy it. [00:42:20] Because after this, I don't see why anyone, any one of these Warhawks is going to come in. [00:42:25] He's just, Scott's got a brutal combination of just having like a photographic memory and being vicious also, which is a tough combination to deal with because he just knows more than you. [00:42:38] He can pull it up all instantly and he's going to go for the jugular. === NYU Jewish Students Crisis (16:11) === [00:42:44] All right, guys, let's take a moment to thank our sponsor for today's show, which is America First Healthcare. [00:42:49] Open enrollment is currently going on. [00:42:51] And one of the major issues facing many Americans during open enrollment is their lack of awareness about the diverse range of health insurance options available to them. [00:43:00] This results in hasty and potentially costly decisions that do not meet their needs or financial capabilities. [00:43:07] America First Healthcare has stepped up to fill this knowledge gap and bring clarity to the confusion that often surrounds health insurance. [00:43:15] America First Healthcare is a rapidly growing private health insurance agency built by conservatives for conservatives. 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[00:44:13] I think maybe this is worth us responding to. [00:44:16] Fox News aired this and put it up on their social media. [00:44:21] This was an NYU student, I believe, talking about dealing with anti-Semitism. [00:44:29] That's a rough life on a 24-year-old at NYU. [00:44:34] Yeah, it's up there with some of the hardest trials and tribulations any group has ever gone through. [00:44:42] Being a Jew at NYU is walking to class and passing torn and defaced posters of innocent hostages with the words occupier and murderer written across their faces. [00:44:52] It is going to Bove's library to study and being interrupted by unauthorized protests where students and faculty call for a globalized intifada revolution, an incitement to violence against Jews everywhere, and a call for the annihilation of the Jewish state and my friends and family who live there. [00:45:09] Being a Jew at NYU is being surrounded by students and faculty who support the murder and kidnapping of Jews because after all, as they say, resistance is justified when people are occupied. [00:45:21] It is being surrounded by social justice warriors and self-proclaimed feminists whose calls for justice end abruptly when the rape victims are Jews. [00:45:30] Being a Jew at NYU has meant being physically assaulted in NYU's library by a fellow student while I was wearing an American Israeli flag and having my attacker still roam freely throughout the campus. [00:45:43] Being a Jew at NYU is experiencing how diversity, equity, and inclusion is not a value that NYU extends to its Jewish students. [00:45:52] Since October 7th, the unmistakable anti-Semitism that I've experienced on campus is reminiscent of the Jew hatred I've heard about from my grandparents, Holocaust survivors, who experienced firsthand the deafening silence of their neighbors in Poland and Germany when the Nazis first rose to power. [00:46:11] Where do we even begin with this, Rob? [00:46:13] You're comparing your suffering to the suffering of the Jews under the Nazis? [00:46:22] I mean, let's take as a given that everything she said happened just the way it happened, right? [00:46:28] I'd love to hear the definition of physical assault. [00:46:31] Well, that is one of those things where it's kind of... [00:46:35] I'm actually asking. [00:46:36] Yeah, no, that's exactly what I'm saying too. [00:46:40] I mean, it's like, it's one of these terms like sexual misconduct or something like that, where you're like, okay, but what are we talking here? [00:46:47] Like, could you just be specific? [00:46:49] I'm just curious. [00:46:49] Cause like if you, when you say, I was assaulted and my attacker still walks free, like that word, it sounds like could be yanked a flag out of your hand, punched you in the face, punched you in the face and kicked you repeatedly while you were down. [00:47:04] Like, what are we, what exactly do you mean? [00:47:07] Um, because if you're saying someone ripped a flag out of your hand and your attacker still walks free, it's kind of like, well, yeah, I mean, I don't know what they're going to do about that exactly, but he's probably not going to be sentenced to decades. [00:47:19] Um, but let's just say, which I, this, by the way, I totally am willing to grant that um I think, look, Rob, we've all we've all seen some shit on the internet that's like hating Jews, and I don't know exactly what percentage of that is real and what percentage of that is trolling or trying to be outrageous or or what. [00:47:43] You know, it's kind of hard to tell what percentage of some of these like uh free Palestine activists on college campuses are actually like harbor some like you know uh dislike of Jewish people. [00:47:56] I don't know, but I'm it's not zero, and I'm totally open to the idea that there is some and that that makes it uncomfortable for Jews on college campus. [00:48:05] Um, but we're still talking about being uncomfortable on a college campus and comparing that to, you know, there's just not much of a comparison to be made between that and what Jews who are living in Germany and Poland went through when the Nazis came to power. [00:48:23] Um, as far as like, you know, the stuff where like the posters of the hostages are ripped down, um, you know, I don't like that people are doing that. [00:48:35] I think it's a weird kind of message. [00:48:37] It's all this weird competition of message too. [00:48:40] It's not as if they're the like the purpose of putting up the images is kind of propaganda stuff, and then the purpose of tearing them down seems kind of fucked up too. [00:48:52] So I just don't really like any of that. [00:48:55] Um, but look, let's just cut, let's cut to the chase here and like let's get down to what the real issue is. [00:49:05] And this is kind of the problem. [00:49:08] Again, like I said, this is the problem. [00:49:10] This ties back into what I was saying before and what I was giving you credit for saying before. [00:49:14] Because like what I was saying before was that basically the people on the Israeli side have to always pretend that there isn't this other thing that's happening. [00:49:25] Like that's that's just not a part of this equation. [00:49:28] And what you were saying is like, you know, that you guys are just not going to win this propaganda war. [00:49:34] Like you're just like not in a position to win this. [00:49:37] And so why doesn't the comparison work to what happened to the Jews in Poland and Germany? [00:49:45] Why is there this big, obvious difference here? [00:49:49] Is that Israel is doing something? [00:49:52] The story isn't just this happened to the Jews on October 7th. [00:49:57] And now look at all these people totally insensitive to it. [00:50:02] The story here is that there's already been 15 October 7th that's happened to the Palestines since then, right? [00:50:11] Something, double check my math, but something in that ballpark, right? [00:50:14] And it's like if you just leave that element out of it, you don't get to just play the, oh, we're just these Jews and this evil regime rose to power that hated us and started like totally violating all of our rights. [00:50:25] But that's not the story here. [00:50:27] The story is that there's a war where one side has enormously more power than the other side. [00:50:33] So much more power that they completely dominate and dictate the lives of the other side of this conflict, who has no government of their own, no state of their own, no military of their own, nothing. [00:50:48] They have absolutely nothing. [00:50:50] They're just sitting ducks getting slaughtered under the justification that some of you are bad people and therefore the rest of you have no rights whatsoever. [00:51:01] Now, if you leave that part of the story out, then yeah, it's like whoa, what is this reaction about? [00:51:09] But when you include that part of the story, it changes things quite a bit. [00:51:14] So again, i'm not saying like that uh, there haven't been any. [00:51:20] Uh that that Jewish college students are not made to feel uncomfortable i'm i'm sure that that's true. [00:51:27] Um, I do think that obviously for many years now we've been cultivating kind of like a victim mentality in these college kids, and so when you're used to demanding a safe space, if someone wants to read Huckleberry Finn, then yeah, I guess this is really uncomfortable for you, you know, but this is just not look like, even from the Pro-israeli, Pro-Jewish point of view. [00:51:57] This is not the way to win people over to complain about how, how horribly oppressed you are as a college student in the United States Of America and then at NYU, and then to completely just like ignore the the heart of the issue at hand here, which is not you know what. [00:52:15] I mean, it's not that look, I don't know, but it's, for the most part, I don't. [00:52:20] Really I don't know. [00:52:21] Maybe I'm wrong about this. [00:52:22] College campus lefties can be pretty uh nuts, but I don't think that the overwhelming um, the overwhelming response from professors and students is like good, what happened to those people on October 7th should have happened to them. [00:52:37] I think a lot more of it is about what's happening to the Palestinians since then is unacceptable um, but I don't know any thoughts on on this uh, whiny college girl, just the second I hear some like being a Jew in NYU, I just come on yikes, save me the poetry. [00:52:57] Yeah yeah, I just uh look like I've always felt this way and I people can argue that things have changed in the last few weeks. [00:53:05] Um, but I i've always felt that I i've always hated when, when Jewish people whine about their oppression in the United States Of America and as we've just done so well, in this country. [00:53:19] And it's like my, my position on this as somebody who's Jewish, who's uh, you know um, my parents parents generation, came to this country from environments where they faced real oppression and real hostility and there were true barriers. [00:53:37] having a life at all. [00:53:39] And then to come to this country and to just be like in a place where I can pursue my dreams and just feel so, you know, personally, I mean, I guess just so kind of like fortunate in many of, and this is true, obviously not for every single individual, but by and large, Jews are just very successful in this country. [00:54:01] And to me, the appropriate reaction to that is to be kind of grateful and kind of like wow, what a great country this is, and you know, I'd like to thank you. [00:54:12] Before they handed this lady a microphone, Did anyone think the checker privilege? [00:54:19] Well, look, the other thing about it, and I know this, this rubs people the wrong way at points when I say this. [00:54:26] I've made this point before on the show, but I'll make it again. [00:54:29] Because I know it's like people like, you know, people like to have this like kind of tough guy avatar when it comes to wars, like this kind of like, no, man, you libertarians are too soft. [00:54:38] I'm going to be tough. [00:54:39] And by being tough, that means. [00:54:42] Other people have to die. [00:54:43] Yeah, advocating for a war that I'm not going to fight in myself because somehow that's like bravery or whatever, you know, that's the real tough guy stuff is to advocate a war that other people can go die in. [00:54:56] But the truth is that, you know, like I've seen some of these, these people will say that they'll be like, look, dude, even on October 8th, like before Israel had really done anything back, people were already criticizing Israel for their treatment of the Palestinians. [00:55:11] They were already criticizing them for what they were about to do. [00:55:15] And it's like, yeah, but what if what if Israel had handled it all different and proved them all wrong? [00:55:22] Like it didn't have to be this way. [00:55:24] You know, I mean, like, Israel could have come out and said that like, like right away, they could have come out and said, listen, we've been hit in this devastating way. [00:55:34] And right now, we are going to, we're doing everything we can to negotiate the release of the hostages. [00:55:42] That is our number one priority. [00:55:43] We call on the world to help us just get these people back, right? [00:55:48] And we'll do whatever we have to do to get these people back. [00:55:51] And those people who were involved in the October 7th attack, they've crossed a line too far. [00:55:57] And we have to get all those people. [00:55:59] There has to be justice for what was done to these people. [00:56:02] We're not seeing as how Gaza is the most highly surveilled area in the world. [00:56:08] We're going to be patient. [00:56:10] We're going to find these people and we're going to get them, which is, by the way, how Israel always handled counterterrorism before the Netanyahu government. [00:56:17] It was never these big bombing campaigns. [00:56:21] And then they said, and we're also offering, we're offering you guys a state. [00:56:30] Like we understand this situation is untenable. [00:56:32] We can't go on living this way. [00:56:33] Our lives are precious and we just lost a lot of them. [00:56:36] But you know what? [00:56:36] Palestinian innocent life is also precious. [00:56:39] And, you know, like, I know this sounds kind of like pie in the sky, like hippie-ish, but it's like, no, they actually had a real opportunity to totally shatter the narrative that Israel is this like awful government who does horrific things to the Palestinians. [00:56:52] And then they, you know, it's, it's fun when you like, whenever you, uh, you talk to some of these pro-Israeli people, they always insist, even though this isn't exactly true, but they always insist that back when we offered them everything and they didn't want it. [00:57:09] You know what I mean? [00:57:09] I know you've heard this narrative a million times, Rob, that it's like we offered them everything they wanted and they still said no, which right away is you probably could just tell that's bullshit just by hearing the statement. [00:57:22] But it's like, okay, but so why does that expire? [00:57:25] Like, why not offer it again? [00:57:27] If, right? [00:57:28] Like if you were willing to offer, and why do you even get to offer someone their independence? [00:57:33] Like, what type of, what type of colonial type attitude is this? [00:57:37] Who gets to offer you your independence? [00:57:39] Like, that's not what the Declaration of Independence says to me in my understanding of it. [00:57:43] It says that all people are created equal with rights from God. [00:57:48] Right. [00:57:49] So anyway, but they could have come out and just said that. [00:57:52] They'd be like, listen, we need to come to a real solution here and we're going to lead the way on that. [00:57:57] And now we really demand a partner in peace. [00:57:59] You know what I mean? [00:58:00] Like the Palestinian people have to like meet us halfway because we're really willing to offer you guys this. [00:58:06] There was an opportunity, you know, just like all the bad guys always say, like Rahm Emanuel or the late evil Henry Kissinger, they always say, like, when there's a crisis, there's a great opportunity. [00:58:18] But like, what they're talking about is an opportunity to do evil shit. [00:58:21] But there's also opportunities in these crises to do something really amazing. [00:58:26] And like, that would have like, just imagine if Israel had handled it somewhat in that way. [00:58:32] This is just how much that could have done to like totally make the Israel haters look bad and make even a percentage of them have to go, all right? [00:58:46] I will admit they handled this pretty good. [00:58:49] Just something to think about. [00:58:50] Instead, they do this because this is the tough thing to do or the realistic thing to do. === Opportunities In Crises (00:46) === [00:58:55] And I don't know, you know, like as you said, Rob earlier, I don't know exactly what the plans are after this, but it does kind of seem like they have some type of plan. [00:59:03] I don't know exactly what it is. [00:59:05] And maybe there's no plan. [00:59:05] Maybe Netanyahu's like, I just got to keep this war going and then figure out how to maintain power. [00:59:10] You know, like maybe that's it. [00:59:12] But it does seem like when they're floating out this stuff about like how everyone should take some of the refugees, it does seem like perhaps the plan is to just clear Gaza and make it part of Israel. [00:59:24] I'm not sure. [00:59:25] But we'll see. [00:59:26] All right. [00:59:27] Any other thoughts, Rob, before we wrap? [00:59:30] Come see me this weekend in New Hampshire. [00:59:33] Be on the lookout for when I put out the videos. [00:59:35] End of your presentation. [00:59:37] Fourth annual. [00:59:39] Hell yeah. [00:59:40] All right. [00:59:40] Thanks for listening, guys. [00:59:41] Peace.