Dave Smith and Robbie the Fire Bernstein dissect the "Trump effect" amidst Democratic panic over Biden's health and manipulated inflation data, citing a median household income of $3,400. They expose unemployment statistics as deceptive while analyzing Netanyahu's corruption struggles and his claim to be the sole barrier against a Palestinian state. The hosts critique hypocritical GOP senators funding Israel despite non-interventionist stances and challenge Elon Musk's incomplete take on Gaza by referencing Moshe Dayane's 1954 admission regarding displacement. Ultimately, the episode argues that official narratives obscure economic decay and geopolitical complexities, urging listeners to question corporate media and government statistics. [Automatically generated summary]
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Why Democrats Are Freaking Out00:12:40
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Well, let's get into some stuff today.
We will talk a little bit more about the war going on in Gaza because there's been some developments there.
But I wanted to start today.
They're on hiatus.
It's the same break.
They took a little pause, which is, you know, is better than no pause.
So there you go.
But we'll get into that in a minute.
I wanted to open up first with some stuff going on here in the United States of America, as unimportant as that is to our political leaders.
It is still our country.
If you haven't noticed, there has been a real collective freak out going on amongst the Democratic establishment.
This is, it's quite entertaining to watch.
They will not come out and say this themselves, but this is all for one reason.
And the reason is that Donald Trump is crushing it in the polls right now.
And I think that the reality is starting to set in that a lot of these charges are pretty flimsy.
Now, again, we've talked about this a lot before.
I'm not saying that he's going to skate by.
The fact is that he's being charged in a lot of districts that aren't super pro-Trump.
And who knows what could happen there?
But in the polls, Joe Biden is getting mauled right now by Donald Trump.
And I think it's important to understand that this is particularly devastating for Democrats because Donald Trump always performs better than he polls.
The Trump effect with polling, this held true in 2016 and 2020, he always performs better than he polls.
I don't know exactly why that is.
I think it's quite possible that some people are just unwilling to say that they're going to support Donald Trump because it's such a toxic thing in many circles to say.
But then once they get behind, you know, a secret ballot behind a curtain, they're like, I'm pulling the lever for that guy.
Whatever the reason, he was, if you remember way back to ancient times, 2016, they were saying it was an 80% chance that Hillary Clinton was going to win.
Going into the 2020 election with Joe Biden, it wasn't supposed to be close.
It ended up being close.
And, you know, whatever you think actually is.
2006, the trucks got lost delivering those mail-in ballots.
Right.
Right.
So anyway, there's right now, there's been many polls that have come out, not just with Trump with a national lead, but with Trump winning in almost all, I think all but one of the key battleground states he's winning.
They've done polling where they include RFK, doesn't change things, Trump's still winning.
So there's a pretty collective, there's a pretty big collective freak out by the Democratic establishment right now, and rightfully so.
And of course, woven into that fabric is the fact that Joe Biden is still there.
And they have not yet gotten him out of the way and gotten somebody else in.
And there's still a lot of speculation.
I certainly think it's well-founded speculation that somebody else is going to have to get in here because Joe Biden just cannot pull off a true presidential campaign.
As of course, everybody knows in 2020, there were certain extenuating circumstances that really benefited Joe Biden where he could just say, I'm not going to campaign, essentially.
And that's because I'm being responsible and in compliance with CDC guidelines.
But we don't really have that right now.
And this is anyway, this is leading a lot of people to speculate that there'll be some other candidate or that there'll be some type of national emergency or that something here has got to happen because Joe Biden is, look, he was in bad shape in 2020 and he is substantially worse.
These have been a rough few years for Joe Biden.
It is, you cannot find a speech of him where he does not appear to be struggling to get sentences out.
And this is going to be a very, it's going to be very tough to do a presidential campaign this way.
And you just look at this guy, you cannot picture him making it to rallies and giving long speeches night after night.
If you remember the way Trump used to campaign, I mean, he was doing multiple events every night.
Joe Biden does not seem up to that task.
So there's a lot to freak out about here.
If you're the Democrats, Donald Trump has, you know, he has certainly long struck a nerve with all of them.
They have decided he is unacceptable.
Anything that can be weaponized against him seems to be fair game at this point.
And in the face of all of that, in the face of the biggest smear campaign, in the face of the biggest like politically motivated legal assault, he's just getting stronger and stronger in the polls.
And so this is the reason why the Democratic establishment is freaking out.
This is the reason why the corporate press is freaking out.
It's very clear that that's what's going on here, but they can't come out and say that.
So they have to spin it in their own way.
So I don't know if you've seen this, Rob, but the newest thing that they're coming out with is the newest threat to democracy is misinformation about the economy.
This is something that's been parroted by the White House press secretary and by almost every Democratic surrogate in the corporate media, that this is the real problem, Rob.
You see, it's that the American people are being tricked into thinking this isn't a good economy.
Even though it's obviously a great economy, the people are just wrong about it.
That's the issue.
On the surface, there's two things that are very funny about this.
One is, I guess, when it comes to germs and being a health expert, someone could tell you, hey, you just don't understand the situation.
When you're going to a store and you're looking at pricing, it's very hard to convince someone, hey, no, those prices are much better than you think.
No, you actually, and you could be like, well, I just went home and I'm broke and the price is definitely more than last year.
No, that's all in your head.
That's a tough thing to convince people of.
But what's even more psychotic than trying to pretend like the situation is better than it is and that people can afford more than they can is that if they actually believe that and then started going out and spending more, you would actually drive up prices more.
Yep.
So the very idea that people don't think that the economy is doing well doesn't like, so you're trying to tell them that they should save more in anticipation of a problem, which might bring down pricing?
Or are you pulling the George Bush move, which is everyone's got to go out and spend?
That's the way, that's the American way, in which case you'll further drive up prices.
And look, George W. Bush, it's a really good point you make.
And also, George W. Bush was not dealing with the highest price inflation in decades, right?
Which is why they were able to print and spend all that money to make a Zach.
I'm just going to worry about, you know, whatever the hell was going on.
Exactly.
So anyway, Joe Biden gave a speech yesterday in which he addressed these issues.
And you can see what their strategy is going to be.
Kind of this is, obviously, Joe Biden is not a man who's writing his own speeches.
He is barely delivering his own speeches.
And if you think I'm being unfair, I mean, just listen to this.
Let's live in reality and take a look at what you're seeing here.
But so this is this is their strategy to combat this pesky little problems that no matter how many times they tell the American people the economy is really great, they seem to be disagreeing.
So here is the president of the United States of America.
Today, our supply chains are stronger than ever with backlogs, bottlenecks, and shipping rates at a 25-year low.
We've created 14 million new jobs, including 800,000 manufacturing jobs.
The unemployment rate has stayed below 4%, below 4% for the longest period, longest stretch in over 50 years.
And wages for working families have gone up while inflation has come down 65%.
Giving families a little more money in their pockets and a little more breathing room this holiday season.
But we know the prices are still too high for too many things, that times are still too tough for too many families.
We made progress, but we have more work to do.
Let me be clear.
To any corporation that's not brought their prices back down, even as inflation has come down, even as supply chains have been rebuilt, it's time to stop the price gouging and give the American consumer a break.
Today, so that really is something, huh?
This is charged level illiteracy of if you were watching a person who couldn't read.
Well, because it just flies in the face of reality.
It's a guy describing that we don't, you don't have to obey the rules of gravity.
It's literally.
I love it.
It's just, it's like, listen, we're doing great, but things are bad, but we've done a great job, but they're, we know they're bad, but it's not our fault.
It's these corporations' fault and all of this.
So there's, there's a lot going on here.
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The Middle Class Myth Explained00:15:49
You know, I saw, um, I retweeted this video the other day that really kind of got to me.
Um, and it was, it was interesting just to see the responses of it because the video went like super viral.
And it's this woman.
I don't know if you saw this, Rob, if you saw that I retweeted this, but it's, it's this woman crying, um, just talking about how much the economy is just destroying her family.
And she's uh, now again, I mean, I don't, you know, who knows this woman's story or whatever.
It's just some woman talking to a video, uh, into a camera, but like she, this story is the story of millions of Americans, you know?
Um, and so she's talking about how she's like, she's like, listen, me and my husband, we both have like good jobs.
She's like, I'm a nurse.
He, she doesn't say what he is, but she's like, he works more than full time.
He's working overtime.
Well, and she's like, she's just going through how they live paycheck to paycheck and that after paying their mortgage and she's like, we don't have a crazy house.
We got a two bedroom house, you know, whatever.
They got a couple kids.
She's like, after paying the mortgage and paying for their cars and going grocery shopping and like paying utilities or whatever, she's like, we have $200 till next Friday.
And she's like, just weeping as she says this.
And she's like, what am I supposed to like?
What am I supposed to do?
We did everything right.
Like we went to college.
We work our asses off.
We both have good jobs.
We pay our taxes.
We do it.
You know what I mean?
It's like, and it's very easy to, you know, when there's people who do the wrong things, when they waste their money, when they don't work hard, when they do that, it's one thing if they have to suffer these consequences, but it's a real sign that you're, you're, you know, you're in a, in an unhealthy country when the people who do all the right things still get screwed over.
And, you know, it's like this, it was interesting because then you see a bunch of like Democrats responding to this viral video, being like, well, maybe she shouldn't waste her money on things and blah, blah, blah.
And you're like, oh, now you're the pull yourself up by your bootstraps, people, all of a sudden that you've taken that on.
And it's like, look, the inflation is the whole issue here.
This is what's crushing people.
And it's so, goddamn, I can't remember who said this to me.
Someone just said it to me the other day, but it was like the perfect metaphor.
Because we talk about a lot on the show where this is the thing where Joe Biden says, and this is just trickery.
And now I know Joe Biden has no idea what he's saying.
He's just proud of himself that the words came out of his mouth.
But he'll say, inflation is down, but you haven't lowered your prices back down.
You see, this is just such bullshit because, of course, as anyone who knows anything about this at all, or anyone, even if you don't know this, and you just live in the world, then you're going, no, inflation isn't down.
What are you talking about?
Because when they say inflation is down, what they mean is that the rate of increase in prices is lower than it was the previous year.
So if prices are going up by 9% and then this year, they're only going up by 6%.
They go, look, a 33% reduction in inflation, but inflation is cumulative.
So it does, it's, and the analogy that I can't remember who, maybe it was Malice or some, Scott Horton, one of the people I was hanging out with this last week, but they said it's the, it's like if you were to gain 50 pounds one year, and then the next year you gain 25 pounds and you go, my weight gain is down by 50%.
You're like, no, you got fatter, dude.
Like you just, you can't think about it like that.
And so everybody, so no, it's not true that, well, inflation is down, but your prices still haven't come down to the pre-inflation levels.
It's like, yeah, that's the whole point because you're not that we're not actually going down.
So the inflation has continued, just not at such an unbearably record rate.
But they're just talking about the rate of prices going up.
At the end of this, right now, all of the worst inflation of 2021 and 2022, all of that inflation is all still being felt by the American people, but worse, because they also have to deal with the inflation of 2023.
So it's worse than it's ever been.
That's the reality.
Here, I can explain to MSNBC and Joe Biden and all these people who can't seem to figure out this disconnect between why it is that we've got this number that says inflation is down, but all the American people still think it's worse than ever because it is worse than ever.
You're using a bullshit metric.
You're literally the guy who's gained 150 pounds telling you he's lost weight because he only gained 50 of the pounds this year.
And he gained 100 of the pounds last year.
His organs are not agreeing with you.
The American people are this fat guy's organs and you are this fat guy using these bullshit numbers.
You're like, I'm losing weight.
No, you're not.
You're getting fatter.
I also love he leads in with we've put more money into Americans' pockets and we've had we've created more jobs, both of which are inflationary.
If more people are employed and people have more money, that means they're going to spend more money.
Guess what happens when that, when you have more people employed spending more money?
Prices go up and you have inflation.
But of course, by the way, you're right about that, like in the theory, but it's bullshit.
That's also bullshit because what he'll be doing again is it'll be a thing where if there's 9% inflation last year and 5% inflation this year, and there was like a 2% increase in wages last year and a 3% increase in wages this year, he goes, look, wages are up, inflation is down.
But really, the reality for anyone there is that they're losing wages in terms of real value.
So, but yes, your point is correct too.
Like none of this makes sense, even if the numbers weren't cooked.
And of course, it should, they're repeating that the employment numbers are also cooked.
Government employment numbers to say it's, oh, we're under 4% unemployment or something like that.
Well, here's the thing about that, right?
Employment, number one.
I know I've mentioned this before, but it's worth repeating.
There's two major problems with the way the government tracks unemployment.
Number one, they only count you if you're actively looking for work.
So if you just drop out of the workforce, you don't get counted in that number.
And so that's who if you wanted to get an honest gauge of how many people are just unemployed, the people who have dropped out of the workforce altogether would be like the biggest indicator, right?
So they just conveniently take that and cut it out.
So you don't factor that in at all.
And then on top of that, if you, you know, let's say you ran a successful small business that went out of business during like the lockdowns or something like that, or maybe just went out of business because inflation was so high and you were some type of like luxury item that people don't buy anymore, right?
So you lost your job as the CEO of a small business and then you take a job at Starbucks, the unemployment number is unaffected by that.
Because you were employed and you're still employed.
But so it just doesn't measure the fact that like, yeah, you're employed, but you have a way worse job.
And there's tons of people like that.
Like this, that is not an insignificant portion of the workforce in America today in the years following COVID.
And so again, you can make these numbers sound good.
I mean, when you cook the books and you measure them in ridiculously dishonest ways, but don't sit here.
But the idea of sitting here, like you said at the beginning, is really is the truth.
It's like, you know, this isn't like an argument about epidemiology.
This isn't an argument about physics.
This isn't something where you're like, no, no, no, like these really smart physicists understand what's really going on in astrophysics, but the average person doesn't really get it.
This is the economy.
This is how well you're doing.
This is something that everybody intimately knows.
You're well aware of how good you're doing.
You know better than anybody else.
You know, like, hey, I used to be able to like take my wife out to dinner a couple times a month and now I can't because we don't have enough money for it.
You know this.
No expert needs to translate this for you.
No, no expert needs to like tell you what the purchasing power of your dollar is versus your wages versus your this.
You're like, I used to be able to do more stuff that I can't do now.
I used to be able to pay all of my bills and now I'm running up my credit card debt to pay for my electricity, which by the way, a lot of Americans are doing right now.
Now, imagine, imagine being in a situation which so many, I mean, this represents millions of Americans right now.
Imagine being in a situation where you go, I, man, we've really had to tighten our belt around here.
And again, this represents millions of Americans.
We've really had to tighten our belt.
I can't go out to dinner anymore.
Me and my wife like aren't able to go do date nights anymore because we're just like, there's no money there.
I'm putting my bills on my credit card now because I'm living paycheck to paycheck and I'm not stretching to the next paycheck.
And then some politician comes along and goes, no, you don't understand.
You're doing better.
Look at these numbers.
You're doing great.
Like, what, man, what's this disconnect?
You must be so stupid that you just don't understand economics and you think it's not going good, but it's really going great.
That's the actual situation here.
Again, this is, it's all, it's out of a Monte Python sketch.
Like, like, this is the reality we're living in.
And then they're like, but don't worry about it because the guy who's going to sell this, the guy who's going to sell that you're too stupid that you don't know that you're doing worse than you used to be is Joe Biden.
And wait till you get a load of this charisma.
And then you just have to have this old senile guy, you know, with his eyes half shut at all times for whatever reason, struggle to try to tell you that you're so dumb that you don't know that you're doing better than you think you are.
Yeah, it seems like the wrong lie.
The right lie would be, hey, we understand that some of you guys are still feeling it.
It's it's still problems because of COVID and because of these wars that have been going on, but we're making changes and you're going to see all these prices come down next year.
Some looney shit, but at least let them know that you're on it.
You've got programs and it's going to be fixed.
Or you go, listen, I understand that everything's more expensive.
And that's why we're working on these new entitlement reforms where we're going to lower your health care bill.
We're going to get you this credit, we're going to help you with your groceries, and then yeah, you pretend like that's not going to drive up prices.
But that's for the Republicans to yell about and for the liberals to be too stupid to acknowledge that there's consequences.
But to just tell people who uh, are feeling the pinch hey, it's all fine it.
How are you not going to just piss people off?
It's almost just cruel.
Yeah it's, it doesn't seem like the best strategy.
I mean, there was one and, like I said, that they're actually going well.
There's misinformation about the economy and that's what's tricking people into thinking that they're broke is like yeah, it strikes me as even.
It's like, explain to me how i'm not poor.
Explain to me how this is easier for me to purchase now than it was last year.
Just explain it to me.
And everybody I mean everybody knows this is.
This is the thing about price inflation, when it really gets out of control.
It's like everybody knows it.
So everybody, you know, I mean, aside from like, like super rich people, everybody has been touched by this.
Everyone, I know, I know, you know, I have conversations with people who are making four or five hundred grand a year, who are like man, the price inflation really screwed me over.
You know, like they, whatever they were planning on doing, they can't do anymore.
It's like it's not, like this is and the numbers, I mean, I think it was.
I almost want to look this up because RFK uh, RFK had a, had a post about this which is really um hold on, let me see if I can find it, but he was just talking about um, the like the median, uh household income and stuff like that.
But if you go okay, so here's the uh uh, the.
The post from Robert F Kennedy Jr.
New Social Security Administration data shows, the average American worker made uh three thousand four hundred dollars a month in 2022.
That's before taxes.
He says.
Let me put it another way, the middle class is no longer the middle class.
A median and a median income means you're barely scraping by and that's I mean.
I don't know how you could say that any other way.
The median income is thirty four hundred dollars a month before taxes.
Now, i'm sorry if you're, if you're making thirty four hundred dollars a month and you got uh, you know, if you have kids, if you're anywhere near um a major city in this country, that is like that is a devastatingly low amount of money to make.
That is like that is not.
And to think that that's the median is like really like yeah, that's not that there is no middle class anymore.
It's not like the middle class is evaporating.
It's like the middle class is barely getting by barely, you know struggling, probably like you, like I was saying running up credit card debt to meet essentials, and like that's you know what i'm saying.
Like that's not.
If you have to be in the top 10 in order to not be completely broke, then we don't really have a middle class, do we?
You know what i'm saying?
Like that's I?
I don't know that's.
You know i'm not looking at uh, at like charts I don't actually know the rates of inflation or, like you know, I can't give you a technical breakdown on all this stuff uh, and I can also tell you, you know, I live.
I live pretty cheap and I don't have kids, so like I don't really have to sweat every single tiny expense type thing.
But I just notice it everywhere I go.
Last night, cookies across the street at the gas station.
It was like six bucks for like a famous Amos, whatever.
You're like how the is that possible?
I could have, like I could have gone out and eaten dinner.
Are you kidding me?
Like how GAS Station could?
Like this is insane.
Or you're at a bar and you just order a drink and you're like this is some shit bar outside of New York and it's 12 for whatever.
Yeah, you know.
Hey lady, were you putting out?
Forget it.
Pay for your own trick.
What the hell's going on in this place, Dude?
I remember going to like literally just, I went to a five guys in Manhattan.
So, okay, this is in Manhattan.
This isn't just anywhere.
But I remember I just went there and I got a burger and fries and a soda.
This is like, I don't know, like five, six months ago or something like that.
And whatever.
Don't judge me.
I wasn't being healthy that day.
But, and he said, and it was like, he goes, that'll be $31.
I just like having a moment where I like look at the guy like, wait, what?
It's just, it's $31?
Did you accidentally double my order?
Are you serving this with the steak?
Are you going to put on a suit and tie and bring it to my table?
Yeah, right.
Yeah, right.
Like, what?
Like, $31?
That's like the price of a steak at a restaurant.
Like, what, you know what I mean?
Like, anyway, it's just crazy.
But to look, so I'm pulling up just like the numbers now.
To be certainly, maybe this isn't true in the, you know, outside of big cities, but certainly, and I'm outside of a big city, but I still live in a kind of expensive area, like the tri-state area is fairly expensive.
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But to be in the top 10% of earners, you have to make $167,000 or more.
So that's the top 10%.
So let me, let's say that that's living comfortably.
Okay.
Making $167,000 a year or more.
Now, listen, the truth is, if you have like a big family and you're doing that in a big city, it's really not that comfortable.
It's like you're getting by.
I mean, like you're doing okay.
You know what I mean?
But let's say, but that's about it.
Like if you're making less than that, you're kind of up against it.
So that's it.
I'm sorry.
There's not a middle class.
If you have to be in the top 10% to like be comfortable, that's not, there's no middle class.
That's not middle class.
There's just an upper class and everybody else.
That's been, and this is like what we always talk about that I think only really the Austrian School of Economics, which is the real economics, if you want to know what's really going on.
I think they're the only ones who truly get this right, that debasing a currency creates this.
That's what it does.
And that it's not even a matter of price inflation per se.
It's a matter of the creation of new money.
And the creation of new money destroys economies and it benefits the people at the very top and it destroys the middle class and the working class and the poor.
That's what we're seeing here.
And they can come up with any type of numbers that they want to and measure them however they want to measure them.
Because of course, as you know, when they say the rate of inflation, they're talking about the CPI, which is another cooked number that's like not at all an accurate account of what's really happening in terms of the dollar losing value, which is really what inflation is all about.
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And they're freaking out now because Donald Trump is winning in the polls.
People are upset about this economy.
That's always the driving force in elections.
And you're not going to be able to convince them that it's not.
And at the same time, you're also, and I'm not saying that this is like the main driver of inflation or the main driver of the debt.
The worst part about this is just kind of the, you know, that it ends up prolonging wars.
But it's really just kind of like throwing salt in the wound to then have those same politicians say, we also have to fund every war around the country, around the globe.
Every time any other country has to fight a war, don't worry.
They got a blank check from you, guy who's struggling.
Anyway, in terms of the collective freak out, I also did, I loved this clip that we found from our old friend, Joe Scarborough, who once called me a Putin propagandist, who because I was saying that Ukraine should negotiate an end to the war.
Although he has come out and said Ukraine should negotiate an end to the war in the last week.
That's because he wants to cede all of Europe to Putin.
Yes, that's right.
No, he's he got it wrong and I expect him to issue me an apology.
I will be take your time, Joey Scarbs.
Take your time.
It's okay.
Whenever you want to, I'm here waiting for it.
But yeah, but so here is a free and look, imagine just to see what panic mode they're in and how much talking like on the same theme as the economy, having to delude yourself from reality and convince yourself, no, no, no.
You know, it's that old, what's the thing that's turned into a meme where it's the principal Principal Skinner in The Simpsons.
And he's like, Are the kids right?
Am I out of touch?
He's like, No, no, no.
It's the kids who are out of touch.
It's literally that.
It's the people, the people who are out of touch.
They don't really get it.
So here is them.
This is the fun.
This is the reality, if you can call it that, that MSNBC is living in.
Let's play this clip.
Please.
For actually every second of the Alabama game until the final, final throw.
But Claire, I'm so glad you talked about marketing because the crisis we're going through right now where the world could really spiral into World War III, but it's not because a guy who's actually had 50 years of experience, it shows the contrast between a guy obsessed with marketing, his brand, a guy obsessed with gestures, a guy who governed by gesture versus, well, Joe Biden, who has 50 years of experience.
And when...
Can we just pause it right there for a second?
I got to say, it's so funny that they're trying to play the experience angle for Joe Biden because isn't it?
Is it just me?
Or does 50 years of experience not sound that good?
Because it's too high?
Like, you know how even bragging about a level of experience, you'd be like, oh, okay.
But like, it's around 30 years, I think is where you start.
It's almost like that's the peak.
And then you start to dip back down.
But this is like if you were to say someone has 90 years of experience and so they're up for the job, but you're kind of like, wait a minute, but how old does that make you at that point?
Like 50 years is past the point of like generating positive returns.
It just evokes like, at least to me, it's just kind of like, well, wait a minute, 50 years of experience.
How fucking old is this guy?
If you tell me a doctor has 50 years of experience, I'm like, he must have outdated practices.
Yes.
You're like, well, did he start at 10?
Because otherwise, like, how old is he?
This doesn't, this doesn't anyway, whatever.
But that's, so this is where they're going with it.
Joe sideways on the hostages.
He can pick up the phone.
He can call.
He can get it done.
When he meets with President Xi in a critical meeting, he can actually then have experience.
You know, they've got over a decade of experience working with each other when both of them were number two in their countries.
Experience matters and the contrast makes me so angry when people are talking about, oh, Joe Biden, he's out of it.
He's this.
No, he's not.
On Joe Biden's worst day, he's light years ahead of Donald Trump on policy, on politics.
Just pause for a second.
All right.
Firstly, in terms of experience of being president, Donald Trump technically has more experience being the United States president.
He did for more years.
So just if you want to be technical about years of experience in this particular job, Donald Trump has more experience.
Secondly, Biden made that massive blunder when he called Z a dictator while he was here on a diplomatic mission.
So to point to that as a positive example of Biden in his older years and his experience and how great that's doing for him.
I don't know, by the way, the concessions that were made, you know, it was basically China was going to stop killing us with fentanyl.
They would start sending us pandas for our zoos again.
And in response, we were going to go back to making investment.
Like there was nothing tangible that they gave to us that came out of those meetings.
Like, what exactly are you pointing to as being the proof of his incredible experience in those meetings with Z?
Well, there's certainly no proof.
It seems to just be assertions about how Joe Biden's better on his worst day or something like that.
This seems to just be the, I don't know, the kind of freaking out strategy to just yell again about no matter what you see, don't believe your lion eyes.
Joe Biden is totally up to the job.
He's got a lot of people.
Put his pants on him and actually sit down and try and brief him on who he is.
And then at some days they just have to give up and go, you know what?
We'll try again tomorrow.
It's not a good day.
It's this, dude, it's the same as the economy thing.
I mean, it's like the guy has trouble walking.
He has trouble speaking.
Stairs are an issue.
But you're just supposed to believe Joe Scarborough when he's like, nah, dude, it's all that experience.
He's nailing it.
All right, let's finish this clip.
Well, there's no question about that.
And frankly, on middle capabilities, you know, the ageism thing is really look at the way Donald Trump behaves.
Who is more unstable?
Who is the one who, frankly, doesn't know where he is part of the time?
Doesn't know who he's running against, doesn't know what year it is, doesn't know world leaders and what countries they're from.
It is really, if you, I don't know.
Let's pause this for a second.
Because even by the standards that we have been discussing this entire podcast, that statement took balls.
Like even with everything else we've been saying, you're like, yo, really, really, you're defending Biden and you're going, this other guy doesn't even seem to know what day it is or who he's running against.
I mean, look at him.
He seems like he's losing a step.
And don't you love how, first of all, she goes, you know, this ageism stuff about Biden, when essentially, I mean, I don't know, they're a year and a half apart.
They're basically the same age.
There's a reason why the ageism stuff gets hurled at Biden and not Trump and not lots of other people.
There's, there's a lot, as everybody knows in your life personally, 80 can go a lot of different ways.
You can know an 80-year-old who's totally sharp and totally with it.
You can know an 80-year-old who's really not, who's lost a few steps.
There's a reason why whatever you say about Trump, by the way, we're not Trump fans here on this show.
Whatever you want to say about him, he does not appear to have lost a step in his late 70s.
But notice that this woman starts with, well, that ageism and then launches into the same attacks against Trump.
She's just, she's using, why is it ageism if you say these things about Biden?
But it's, what is it, not ageism when you say Trump doesn't know where he is or who he's running against?
What is this?
Donald Trump, if anything, is proof that you got to eat more fast food and get preservatives into your diet.
He does.
I mean, to take about, talk about a guy who's openly said that exercising is just a waste of your energy, has packed on an extra 40 pounds.
If anything, this guy is proof that the American diet will keep you youthful all the way up to your 80s.
He does.
He eats fast food and shit.
Like he does.
No, Donald Trump is, you know, I did not think was a very good president, but he definitely makes me feel like an asshole anytime I'm trying to eat really clean.
You know what I mean?
You know, when you just like, you've been eating really clean for like a month and you're just like, oh, God damn it.
I want like a burger so bad or you want like whatever.
And then you're just like, why am I even doing this?
Look at Trump.
Right.
Like it's probably just be making me stronger.
Is this even like, is this even a thing?
Am I just like weakening up my body so it's not like used to toxins now and like it's not ready to fight them off?
Because I'm also from New York City like Donald Trump is.
And I also like, I almost never get sick.
I mean, I got COVID a couple of times, but I didn't get sick with it, just like mildly sick.
And like every time, you know, I got little kids, like my, my daughter's in preschool and stuff.
So there's just always a new cold or a new thing in my house.
And it always knocks out my kids and my wife.
And I'm always kind of fine.
They'll be like sick as hell.
And I just get like a little sniffle or whatever.
And I'm just kind of fine.
Like I just have a strong immune system and I know it's all the years of being a filthy New York City rat.
That's why.
Just my body's just like, ah, germs or whatever.
We're made of germs.
And I think that's what Donald Trump's got going for him.
And then every time I like eat clean and exercise, I'm like, I think I might just be destroying that.
My wife eats perfectly clean and exercises all the time and she gets every single thing.
Like, I don't know.
Trump makes me think maybe it's all backward.
I put it, I put in years of drinking and riding the subway.
And my God, I'm not going to blow that over some exercise.
You know what I mean?
That's what Trump makes you feel like.
It feels like if a nuclear explosion went off, it would be the cockroaches and Donald Trump left.
Just fucking telling the cockroaches how great.
That was like an old, I think, Robin Williams, Keith Richards joke.
What?
The only thing that would survive a nuclear Holocaust would be the roaches and Keith Richards.
It was something like that.
Yeah.
Anyway, yeah, let's keep playing.
Let me see if, because there's, I think, a little left.
Objectively, he's the one who is suffering from a problem related to declining ability in later life, not Joe Biden.
Yeah, and that for that screen.
As they show him smiling with energy, fresh out of a tanner.
I mean, look, dude, there's a million things you could go to that like even Bill Maher, who totally hates Donald Trump.
I mean, just absolutely, there's absolutely no question that he would vote for Biden or any Democrat.
There's not a Democrat in the country who Bill Maher wouldn't vote for over Donald Trump.
There's no, you know, still whatever totally believes he was like, you know, involved in a conspiracy with Russia, you know, all of this stuff.
Even he had to admit when he was on Rogan's podcast, he goes, well, you know, because he was talking about how old and senile Biden is.
And he was like, I will admit that Trump seems a little sturdier and he seems a little more, you know, because even he has to admit, I mean, you can't just to say, first, again, she makes the point that it's ageism, but then says Donald Trump is declining in his old age.
Like, look, all you have to do, this is not, look, you could say, I mean, this would be stupid, but you could say that policy-wise, Joe Biden is way better than Donald Trump and he's a better person and he's a better president and he's whatever, make your argument.
But if you're going to tell me that you look at those two men walking and speaking and tell me that you, you think Trump is the one who's in severe decline.
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I'm sorry.
This is just, it's like looking at the sky and saying that isn't blue.
It's, we all know you're lying.
I, I see it and I know you see it too.
Nobody doesn't see that.
And again, to the point you made earlier, the thing that's kind of shocking about it is that you're like, of all the angles, I can't believe you're taking this one.
Like, like, this is really like, you know, I know government propaganda when I see it pretty well.
But I'm baffled at how stupid this propaganda is.
That you're like, how could this possibly work?
Your criticism is going to be that Donald Trump has lost a step in his old age.
This is it.
Just unbelievable.
Just really unbelievable to see.
Okay.
I did want to just talk just a little bit more about the war in Israel and Gaza, which is they are in the middle of a ceasefire.
Ceasefires are a little bit strange, but they are good.
It's a little bit weird that in the middle of a war, like, do you remember?
I remember when I used to get in fights when I was in like The second grade.
And sometimes you could call a timeout in a fight.
Like it would kind of be respected.
Like we were fighting, but then you go, time, Okay.
Wait, one second, you know, whatever.
It's kind of like that.
It's kind of like you're in the middle of this like mass murder campaign.
And then someone, you know, calls timeout.
And you're like, all right, we'll get back to the killing soon.
But in all seriousness, it was just extended by, I think, 48 hours.
So there's at least a pause in the killing right now.
And there were a bunch of hostages that came back in exchange for some prisoners.
One might also call them hostages in a sense.
Many people would describe them as political prisoners.
Of course, Israel says that these people were all terrorists.
One of the issues they have is that all of the prisoners that Israel released, at least as of yesterday, were women and children.
Now, that doesn't mean that it's not possible they did something, but Israel does have a history of arresting and detaining, and many times without due process, Palestinian women and children, which is that's definitely going to make the population not side with Hamas.
And of course, Hamas and other terrorist groups within Palestine have had a history of taking hostages and brutalizing them.
So whatever, seeing people reunited with their families is great.
It's really nice to see that.
It also does suggest that this is the way, that negotiations are in fact the way to do this and not just indiscriminately killing people.
So there's at least that little positive note.
But it does look like there is going to be, you know, that the ceasefire is not going to be very long.
That's how it looks right now.
And the question of what's going to happen moving forward is the big question that everyone wants to know.
The internal politics within Israel is at a pretty interesting and dangerous point right now.
So, Rob, as you know, for months before October 7th, Benjamin Netanyahu was in a lot of trouble.
He had kind of taken this radical step to try to reduce the power of the Supreme Court, try to eliminate their ability to override him.
This really angered particularly liberals in Israel, but there were protests with hundreds of thousands of people at them.
Benjamin Netanyahu was in real political trouble.
That being said, talk about cockroaches who could survive a nuclear war.
I mean, Benjamin Netanyahu, this guy has been up on corruption charges and beaten them.
He's always finds a way to maintain political power.
He's the longest-serving Israeli prime minister for a reason.
And so he's very good at this game.
And one of the things that, you know, Scott Horton was making this point recently, was it on, maybe it was on this show or a different show I saw him on, but where he was talking about like, you know, how George W. Bush got 9-11, but it happened, he had been president for less than a year.
So it still kind of felt like there was still something where, like, hey, I was new on the job and this happened.
So you don't kind of get the blame for it.
But imagine, you know, this was like FDR in his last year.
You know, you're the longest serving president.
It's just kind of on you at this point.
And so there's his approval numbers have been very bad.
I saw one poll recently where it was, I can't remember exactly, but it was around a quarter of the population wanted him to continue as prime minister.
So his, his numbers are really in the toilet.
And so he's trying to figure out a way to stay in power.
And he just recently, just a couple of days ago, said to fellow Likud Party members, he kind of made his pitch for why he thinks he should stay in power.
And this was pretty interesting.
What he said was that he's the only one who can thwart the possibility of a Palestinian state.
And he's the only one who can move the Americans to support Israel because that's what he's known for.
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Anyway, this was just a very interesting, like if you follow this stuff, this is what it's kind of always been.
I talked a lot about this on Rogan's show the other day.
But this is, just to be clear, Joe Biden, or the people who tell Joe Biden what to say, have said he is determined to see a two-state solution to this.
Benjamin Netanyahu is openly telling his own party to keep him in power because then he will thwart.
But the American government is saying they want and he will move American opinion to back him up on that.
And isn't that like just a crazy admission right there?
The same guy who's coming here asking for tens of billions of dollars extra after we already give them billions of dollars every year is then also just flagrantly openly saying that he is not working toward the same goal as the American government.
So that's pretty pretty incredible.
You might as well give a speech and say, hey, I'm the only one with the backup of what was in that Epstein safe.
Yeah, right, really.
Well, speaking of which, man, and I hate to do this because I will, as far as politicians go, he's probably one of the ones I like more.
But man, Mike Lee, the senator out of, what is it, Utah?
He's out of?
But Senator Mike Lee came down.
They just had a bill, something like $13 billion of additional funding to give to Israel right now.
And not only did he vote for it, but he's out there on social media blasting everybody who didn't.
Blasting everybody who didn't vote for it.
It's just so goddamn disappointing.
Like, how, how hard is it if you're supposed to be this like small government conservative?
Like, oh, you know, Vivek Ramaswamy, when he was on the show, he basically took the position that America shouldn't be involved, but Israel is totally great and totally has the right to do what it wants to do.
And I'm behind you, Netanyahu, you know, and like, I'm, and, but like, we should deal with our issues and you deal with your issue.
You're more than capable of doing it without us type thing.
And I pushed him a little bit on that.
And he didn't want to like really, you know, admit that maybe, maybe Israel's done something wrong a time or two.
But I at least I can kind of accept it.
I can kind of go like, all right, well, look, the guy's running for president.
He's positioning himself to be the Trump candidate if Trump is taken out of the equation somehow.
And he's kind of got a real shot.
And he's like taking the non-interventionist position, but he's just like, you know, I'm not also going to take on the battle of this.
I mean, I don't know.
Maybe he really believes every word he's saying.
But even if he didn't, I could kind of understand that like, it's like, look, dude, I just can't also take on being called an anti-Semite by everybody or whatever.
You know, like, I'm, I guess I'm willing to take on, you know, those bullets coming at me, but I'm not running for president.
And I'm also Jewish, which makes it a little bit easier and whatever.
To just tell the truth.
But it's like, Mike Lee, come on, dude.
You can't even get there.
You can't even just get to that point where you'll just be like, yeah, Israel's totally right about everything, but no, I'm not going to vote for this spending bill because that's my whole identity is that I'm supposed to be the fiscal conservative.
But just the idea, like you can't just say, hey, we're $30 plus trillion dollars in debt.
We can't afford to just print money and send it over for everyone to fight their wars.
We're out of this business.
So anyway, and to not even do that and then start shaming other people for voting against, for voting against it.
Ugh, just really, uh, just really disappointing.
I don't know.
I just felt a need to add that because I've said nice things about Mike Lee before.
So let me be fair and say some not nice things about him here.
I suppose, uh, speaking of um bowing down to Israel, uh, Elon Musk recently did uh did the same.
Did you see that, Rob?
I didn't watch that.
I saw a couple of the clips up on the uh, you know, it's nice to be a billionaire, though.
That uh, and there's something almost racist about it where they're like, wait, you don't think I like Jews?
I'll go talk to the chief Jew.
Put me on a plane right now.
Oh, dude, there was uh, someone on, oh man, I almost want to see if I can find this clip.
Hold on one second because, goddamn, it was so good.
But uh, oh man, it was uh nah, I can't really find it here.
God, it was good, though.
Uh, so on uh, Joy Reed's show on MSNBC, they had some lefty, uh, pro-Palestinian woman explaining how Elon Musk is still an anti-Semite.
And like, she's like, no, we are really the ones who love Jews because we want to free Palestine.
Elon Musk hates Jews, and just because he supports Israel, that doesn't mean he doesn't hate Jews.
And you could just see her like woke mind in like the hierarchy of oppression just like exploding.
Like, how do you even like, you know, like she's like, even her own internal monologue is like, how the hell do I put this all together?
How do I glue that together?
Yeah, Elon Musk is, you know, he came over there.
Let me see if I can find the stuff he said afterward because he had several tweets about it.
If I were to put it in short, it sounded like he would like to be on a positive note involved in seeing how he can help the people of Gaza in the aftermath of the war and that he would like to see, I guess, a better situation for that area.
Somewhat easy to say, but it also sounded like he endorsed what Israel's been doing in the area.
Maybe that's too strong of a word, but basically took the war logic, which some people like to argue: hey, Israel's involved in a war.
And if you look at the actions of governments in a war, this is in line with the way that wars are fought.
And Israel's doing its part not to target civilians and, you know, everything else about the way that the terrorist organization Hamas operates and forces them to kill more citizens than even Israel would like.
But he essentially took kind of the conservative line of, hey, we're going to try and make it better after the fact.
But in the meantime, Israel's fighting the war and they got to do what they got to do.
In short, I didn't read every single thing.
And then, and then basically said the problems, the problems are that the kids are propagandized at a young age by Hamas and that they're taught to hate Jews and all of this stuff.
And like, again, it's not like there, there's not nothing to that.
Like, you know, it is awful what Hamas teaches these kids, but to act as if there's not like a part another participant in this, and that the hatred of Israel is created solely by the fact that Hamas tells them to.
You know, like that, like, that's just it.
And they haven't seen anything else.
Israel hasn't done nothing to them that might also contribute to the reasons why they hate Israel.
It's just, you know, you're just never going to solve a problem when you look at it that way.
You know, I noticed also that Elon Musk tweeted after that, just a few hours ago, he tweeted out some meme about like Pizzagate being real.
And it's kind of funny when you look at this and you're like, oh, okay, Elon Musk, we're like, hey, that Jeffrey Epstein thing was real too, right?
What was that?
What was that exactly?
Huh?
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Okay.
He's talked about all this stuff about the ADL and like how, you know what I mean?
Like how there's these certain Jewish groups that are like doing all this stuff.
It's like, okay, but like, do you see kind of like a common theme that might point you in one direction here?
And I'm sorry, but like to just, if you're what really bothers me about when people bring up the like that Hamas propagandizes the kids in Gaza, which by the way, to be clear, that is true.
I'm not like denying that that's true.
But when you talk about that, what bothers me is that it's like people are bringing up why they hate Israel.
And if you're going, if you're interested in that question at all, you're going to tell me we're going to have a conversation about why a group of people who have been occupied and or dominated by Israel since 1967 hates Israel.
And that doesn't come up.
That's not on the list of reasons.
Can you listen?
And again, whatever.
I know people will say, well, they ended the occupation in 2005, which is like, if you want to split hairs and get into semantics here, fine.
There's a reason why international human rights groups like Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International all say the occupation didn't end.
Because when you, you know, as Sheldon Richmond's great analogy of it, it's like, yeah, you, you took all the prison guards and instead of, you know, having them in the prison, you had them surround the prison and lock all the doors.
And then you went, see, you're freed.
It's like, oh, you're not really freed.
You know, Israel still controls seven-eighths of the land borders.
They still control the, you know, entrance by sea, entrance by air.
They still dictate who can leave and who can't leave.
They dictate how much electricity, water, utilities, medical supplies get in.
They're not allowed to have free trade with any other nation.
Right.
It all has to be at Israel's approval.
So I'm just saying, like, even if, even if you were going to argue that Israel just has no other choice and they have to completely dominate and control these people, right?
Even if that's your argument.
Could anyone do that?
Like, if anyone did that to you, would you not think that would be a contributing factor for why people hated the people doing that?
Right?
That's all.
That's all you got to say.
It doesn't even, you could even take the position that, yes, of course, they have to do this.
And, you know, the crazy thing is that there's these quotes from, you know what?
Let me actually, I think I have one of these right here.
I got this from the Daryl Cooper show.
I never knew about this.
He's, if you, if you want to listen to that podcast, Fear and Loathing in the New Jerusalem, it's so good because there's so many like little nuggets of information like this.
So let me see if I can find this.
So this is the guy's name, I can't find it.
I have it here somewhere, but the guy's name was Moshe Dayane.
He was the defense minister in Israel in the 67 war.
So in the six-day war, he was the guy leading the war.
And there was this.
So this is before that, I think this was in 1954.
If I remember, here I have the quote up here.
So basically what happened was there was this, like an Israeli lieutenant got killed by some Arabs and Moshe Dayane gave the eulogy at his funeral.
And this is what he said.
Again, just keep in mind, this is the defense minister, the guy who ran the 1967 war.
Okay.
This is what he had to say about it.
And he said, yesterday with daybreak, Roy was murdered.
Roy was the name of the lieutenant who got murdered.
The quiet of a spring morning blinded him, and he did not see the stalkers of his soul on the on the furrow.
Let us not hurl blame at the murderers.
Why should we complain of their hatred for us?
For eight years, they have sat in the refugee camps of Gaza and seen with their own eyes how we have made a homeland of the soil and the villages where they and their forebearers once dwelt.
So this is eight years.
This is 1954.
This is eight years after, or 1956.
This is eight years after 1948.
And here you have one of the top level guys in government telling you, like, look, we can't even be mad at them for wanting to murder us.
Why do you think they hate us?
Well, they've been in a refugee camp for eight years.
Can you imagine that, Rob?
Eight years of it.
This is now 2023.
And so, by the way, just to be clear, he goes on there to say, like, even though they hate us because we took their land and they're in these refugee camps and we're right.
Zionism is a noble cause.
Like, he's not saying they're the bad guys, but even he was blatantly just like, look, this is why they hate us.
They hate us because we kicked them out of the land that they're, we kicked them out of the house that their grandfather built that they had known no other life than living in their entire life, right?
And they're over there in these refugee camps watching us build a prosperous country on the land that they once inhabited.
Also, Barak, who was the Israeli prime minister, he was in there before Benjamin Netanyahu.
He said once that if he was a young Arab, he would sign up with a terrorist group.
So I'm just saying that like even these guys admit why it is that the Palestinians hate the Israelis.
And so it's just like, it's so shallow and surface level to just talk about, well, the problem is there's been some propaganda there for the last few years.
Come on.
The situation is much deeper than that.
And even the top level, like people in the Israeli government, when they were being honest, they acknowledged it.
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Just a last thought on Elon Musk, because I just find this stuff so fascinating.
You never know with him.
He's a smart guy.
Maybe he's actually got noble intentions of helping the people of Gaza and there was pressure on him and he needs to save his platform.
And so this all makes sense and he's going to do stuff down the line.
But when you see the stuff like this, it does seem to lean the narrative a little bit more towards at the end of the day, he's a defense contractor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I hate to say that.
I hope it's the prior, but I don't know.
I don't never met the guy.
I can't say for sure.
And I just, it's a, it's an interesting storyline that runs in my head of good guy or defense contractor.
Well, he tweeted about my debate with Laura Loomer.