Part Of The Problem - Dave Smith - A Response To Yaron Brook
Aired: 2023-10-12
Duration: 54:20


=== Blowing Shit Up (14:14) ===

[00:00:09]  We need to roll back the state.
[00:00:11]  We spy on all of our own citizens.
[00:00:13]  Our prisons are flooded with nonviolent drug offenders.
[00:00:17]  If you want to know who America's next enemy is, look at who we're funding right now.
[00:00:22]  Every single one of these problems are a result of government being way too big.
[00:00:27]  You're listening to part of the problem on the gas digital network.
[00:00:31]  Steer your host.
[00:00:34]  What's up, everybody?
[00:00:34]  Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
[00:00:37]  Thanks for joining me.
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[00:01:06]  All right.
[00:01:07]  So the theme of today's show is that war makes people dumb.
[00:01:12]  It really makes people dumb.
[00:01:14]  It's unbelievable and pretty evil too.
[00:01:17]  But war makes people stupid.
[00:01:19]  So something I've talked about a lot on this show over the years is that there are these big moments when, you know, like it's easy to be against the war in Iraq now.
[00:01:33]  Everyone's against the war in Iraq now, I think.
[00:01:36]  John McCain in his deathbed memoir came out against the war in Iraq.
[00:01:42]  Like it's the easiest thing ever to be against the war in Iraq now.
[00:01:45]  Won't bat an eyebrow anywhere you go.
[00:01:47]  But man, in 2002, in 2003, like in 2002, when they were laying down the propaganda for that war, you know, for some of you young guys, you may not remember, but it really was something to be opposing the propaganda coming out.
[00:02:00]  And every now and then you have these moments.
[00:02:03]  The one I like to, I use a lot, which wasn't the most intense one, but it is one of the more revealing ones, was when Donald Trump was going to pull out of Syria and all of the sudden it was about the Kurds.
[00:02:16]  Like, how can you abandon the Kurds?
[00:02:17]  We care so much about the Kurds.
[00:02:19]  A week before, no one cared about the Kurds.
[00:02:22]  And ever since we still don't, what's going on with the Kurds right now in Syria?
[00:02:25]  No one cares.
[00:02:25]  It's not in the mail.
[00:02:26]  But at that point, it was a big deal.
[00:02:29]  Anyway, when you've been at this for a while, it becomes easier and easier to spot when you're in one of those moments.
[00:02:38]  And man, are we in one of those moments right now where there is this intense demand to fall in line?
[00:02:46]  And to me, from my perspective, these are the most important times to tell the truth.
[00:02:51]  That's when it really matters.
[00:02:53]  And I think that's what that's what actually kind of solidifies your legacy in this world of commenting on things that matter.
[00:03:03]  And that's when it really counts because like I said, all these guys will be against the Iraq war now.
[00:03:08]  The question is like, who was against it when it really mattered?
[00:03:11]  Okay.
[00:03:12]  So that being said, obviously we're talking about this the Israeli-Palestinian war, which is going on as we speak.
[00:03:22]  It's been pretty unbelievable and revealing to where a lot of people are.
[00:03:28]  Just the war fever is something to behold.
[00:03:33]  It is unbelievable how dumb and evil the arguments are and how much pressure there is to get everybody to fall in line.
[00:03:43]  And I must say, having been through enough of these moments, it's just very easy to see it around you, especially for someone like myself.
[00:03:53]  And I'd imagine most of the listeners of this show, we are somewhat inoculated against government propaganda.
[00:04:00]  And so it just becomes very easy to see through.
[00:04:03]  So anyway, I've been, I've already looks like not officially set up yet, but there are several debates over Israel-Palestine that I'll be having hopefully fairly soon.
[00:04:15]  So we can kind of get to the bottom of this a little bit more.
[00:04:17]  But anyway, it's been very interesting to see the reaction to this.
[00:04:20]  And that's what we're going to talk about on today's episode.
[00:04:22]  We're going to specifically go through a video that was made attacking me for my takes on this.
[00:04:28]  So all I ask you to do, as maybe some of you guys are on the fence about this issue, maybe some people disagree with me about this, and I'm sure some of you agree with me.
[00:04:38]  I just want you to try your best to just be fair.
[00:04:41]  Try to not, in this moment, when decisions are very critical, try your best to not make decisions based off of emotions and really, really bad arguments.
[00:04:52]  I'll bring this up before we get into the video, because so many people tagged me in this Ben Shapiro tweet because people were insisting that he was sub-tweeting me.
[00:05:02]  For the record, I do not think that's true.
[00:05:04]  I don't think that I'm that much on Ben Shapiro's radar, but just the way it's worded, you can see where people thought that.
[00:05:11]  But anyway, Ben Shapiro tweeted out the other day.
[00:05:14]  And to me, this just reveals the whole thing.
[00:05:18]  Here's the tweet, quote, if you quote both sides this, if you quote, but insert fault, insert false history, I think he meant false history.
[00:05:29]  Quote, so sorry, take it from the top.
[00:05:33]  If you both sides this, if you but insert fault history this, if you, it's time for a ceasefire, this, you are part of the problem.
[00:05:42]  Now, I will say, I think that last part was a coincidence, but that's kind of the take right there, right?
[00:05:47]  If you both sides this, you can't talk about the other side.
[00:05:51]  Right now, we can talk about the crimes of Hamas.
[00:05:54]  You cannot talk about the crimes of Israel at all.
[00:05:56]  I'm sorry.
[00:05:56]  That is not allowed right now.
[00:05:58]  And if you do that, you're already the bad guy.
[00:06:00]  If that's even brought up, you're already the bad guy.
[00:06:03]  If you try to, you know, what he calls fault, I think he meant false history.
[00:06:08]  So if you, but no talking about the history, no talking about that.
[00:06:11]  If you say it's time for a ceasefire, you're the bad guy.
[00:06:15]  If you're advocating peace, you're the bad guy.
[00:06:19]  Isn't that something?
[00:06:20]  This is, it's, I remember this in the aftermath of 9-11, where this, this attitude really swept the nation.
[00:06:28]  You know, now's not the time.
[00:06:30]  Now's not the time.
[00:06:30]  I don't want to hear anything about American crimes.
[00:06:32]  I don't want to hear anything about questions about how exactly there was such a failure in this multi-hundred billion dollar defense apparatus that we have.
[00:06:43]  How did it fail so badly that it gave us 9-11?
[00:06:45]  No, no, no, no.
[00:06:46]  Now's not the time.
[00:06:47]  Now's the time to start blowing shit up.
[00:06:50]  That's what the time is now.
[00:06:51]  Although, of course, now is precisely the time, the most important time to be asking these questions and to be thinking about what's going on here and what role we should play, if any.
[00:07:02]  So, but that is, that couldn't be a better crystallization of what the pro-Israel side is saying.
[00:07:08]  You're not allowed to talk about anything else, only the things we want to talk about.
[00:07:12]  I was accused of whataboutism by a gentleman named Kevin Gootsman.
[00:07:20]  And that was his, because of my tweet where I mentioned the crimes of Israel as well.
[00:07:26]  That is whataboutism, you see.
[00:07:28]  You see, we can only talk about the crimes of Hamas.
[00:07:31]  And as soon as you talk about the crimes of Israel, if you even mention that when a discussion about the crimes of Hamas are taking place, you're guilty of whataboutism.
[00:07:42]  Translation, exactly what Ben Shapiro said.
[00:07:45]  There shall be no talk of anything that Israel has done wrong.
[00:07:49]  That's simply not allowed.
[00:07:51]  What is allowed is talk of what Hamas or the Palestinians have done wrong.
[00:07:55]  That's it.
[00:07:57]  Which, of course, just, I mean, just think this through.
[00:07:59]  This is ridiculous.
[00:08:00]  If you're talking about a conflict between two groups, obviously you have to be able to mention both sides.
[00:08:04]  And of course, this is a very self-serving style of argumentation, if it can be classified as argumentation.
[00:08:12]  Because I highly doubt, right?
[00:08:13]  Like if I were to just start talking about the crimes of Israel, I highly doubt none of them would bring anything up about what Palestine's done.
[00:08:20]  Right.
[00:08:21]  And if they did that and I turned around and said, that's what about is, I think they would laugh that off.
[00:08:27]  It wouldn't stop them for a second.
[00:08:29]  Go try that with anyone who's pro-Israel.
[00:08:31]  Bring up some messed up things that Israel's done and see what their immediate response is.
[00:08:35]  And by the way, I'm not saying that's unreasonable.
[00:08:38]  Like that's, yes, it's a conflict between two parties.
[00:08:40]  You have to be allowed to discuss both sides of it.
[00:08:43]  And neither side is innocent in this case.
[00:08:47]  However, what we'll spend the bulk of today's show talking about is a gentleman named Yaron Brook, who is he works over at the Ayn Rand Institute.
[00:08:58]  I think he runs the thing.
[00:09:01]  And he is an objectivist.
[00:09:03]  If people aren't familiar, objectivism is the philosophy that Ayn Rand invented.
[00:09:09]  Ayn Rand's a very brilliant woman.
[00:09:11]  She was great on a lot of things, pretty bad on some other things.
[00:09:14]  But anyway, they're typically considered somewhat close with libertarianism.
[00:09:22]  I mean, they certainly advocate for a minarchist state and laissez-faire capitalism and things like that.
[00:09:30]  But this is one of the areas where there's some serious disagreement, as we'll get into.
[00:09:33]  So let me just, before we play this video, I'm just going to read the tweet that I sent and his response.
[00:09:41]  That is what sparked this whole video.
[00:09:43]  Okay.
[00:09:43]  So this was my tweet from the other day.
[00:09:46]  I said, quote, the Hamas attack on Israel was horrific, criminal, and so stupid.
[00:09:52]  It guarantees further suffering for their own people.
[00:09:55]  The problem in America is that most people have a simplistic view of the situation that is completely removed from reality.
[00:10:00]  They assume normal relations and then out of nowhere, these savages just attack.
[00:10:05]  The reality is that the treatment of the people in Gaza is also horrific, criminal, and stupid and guarantees further incidents like this.
[00:10:13]  We should root for peace and recognize that all innocent life is precious.
[00:10:17]  And we should all recognize that DC should stay the hell out of it.
[00:10:20]  That was my comment.
[00:10:23]  Yaron Brooke's response was, this is disgusting, immoral.
[00:10:29]  This is the disgusting, immoral, ignorant state of the Libertarian Party and its supporters with friends like these who needs enemies.
[00:10:37]  All right.
[00:10:38]  So that's just for your background.
[00:10:40]  That's what sparked off this video.
[00:10:42]  Let's go to Yaron Brooke and let's give our thoughts on this.
[00:10:47]  All right.
[00:10:48]  Yeah.
[00:10:49]  Lastly, I want to say something about, God.
[00:10:54]  So yesterday I was on Twitter.
[00:10:57]  Some of you might have noticed that.
[00:10:59]  I wrote up a lot of my thoughts on what was going on on Twitter.
[00:11:02]  I wrote up, you know, as you know, my views and my positions.
[00:11:09]  And part of that was looking to see what was going on on Twitter.
[00:11:13]  And what you find on Twitter, not surprising at all, not surprising at all, completely consistent with everything else and certainly consistent with what we saw with the Ukraine war, is the number of libertarians.
[00:11:25]  Now, the new right has a problem because the new right has to be pro-Israel because the evangelicals are pro-Israel.
[00:11:31]  So they're torn.
[00:11:34]  On the one hand, many of them are anti-Semites and they hate Israel, but they can't piss off the evangelicals too much.
[00:11:39]  So then you write as general, even Didi Vance and those kind of people are kind of hesitantly for Israel, right?
[00:11:52]  But the libertarians don't give a shit.
[00:11:55]  They're against everybody.
[00:11:56]  Indeed, the libertarians are calling out that.
[00:11:58]  So we're against everybody.
[00:12:01]  Okay.
[00:12:02]  All right.
[00:12:02]  Yeah, that doesn't seem exactly right.
[00:12:04]  I will say there's, I don't completely disagree with what he's saying.
[00:12:09]  I mean, yeah, I think it is true if you're talking about people like JD Vance or kind of like some of these politicians.
[00:12:14]  Yeah, they certainly do have to worry about the fact that there's this large evangelical base that is very pro-Israel.
[00:12:20]  There also might be some other influences in there, maybe a powerful lobby or something like that that they have to worry about.
[00:12:25]  And yes, that is true to some degree that libertarians, we are kind of unencumbered by those issues because we're just kind of a small group of people who really believe in what we believe in.
[00:12:36]  And so yes, we don't have to capitulate to the fact that there might be some, you know, some large voter bloc or something like that that isn't going to want to hear this or we're not like, you know, particularly concerned about being on the wrong side of any pro-war factions.
[00:12:51]  So I think there is some truth to that.
[00:12:52]  By the way, I should say, before we continue, maybe just worth just full disclosure, I met Jaron Brooke at Freedom Fest a few years ago.
[00:13:04]  What year was I in Freedom Fest?
[00:13:05]  Was it 2021, I want to say, where I was hosting the whole thing.
[00:13:09]  There was like a private breakfast for speakers at the event, and me and him had a lovely conversation.
[00:13:15]  I don't know if he knew who I was or anything at the time, but anyway, just for the record.
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[00:14:18]  Indeed, the libertarians are calling out and you write saying, wait a minute, we thought you were part of our anti-war group.

=== Killing Innocent People (15:26) ===

[00:14:24]  How come you're supporting Israel?
[00:14:27]  We thought you got it on Ukraine.
[00:14:30]  Anyway, Dave Smith, who is the, what is it, the chairman of the Libertarian Party now, the presidential candidate for the Libertarian Party, came out with a post.
[00:14:39]  Let's pause it there.
[00:14:40]  Just saying, I mean, all right, we'll get into some more like actual substance, but no, I'm not the chairman of the Libertarian Party.
[00:14:46]  I'm also not a presidential candidate.
[00:14:48]  I'll forgive the second one because there were was something I was considering for a while.
[00:14:53]  But I don't know.
[00:14:55]  Listen, it's not your job to know that I'm not the chairman of the Libertarian Party.
[00:15:00]  I just feel like if you're going to do a video about me, maybe it's incumbent on you to know the first thing about what you're talking about.
[00:15:09]  But I guess not.
[00:15:10]  All right, let's keep playing.
[00:15:13]  Basically, making moral equivalency between Hamas and Israel.
[00:15:17]  He was then defended by hundreds of libertarians.
[00:15:21]  I called him and everybody else, all these libertarians, out on it.
[00:15:26]  I, you know, called them names as was appropriate.
[00:15:31]  at the ugliness that came out as a consequence.
[00:15:35]  Some anti-Semitism, but mainly just, and this is the anarcho-capitalist.
[00:15:42]  This is the, this part of the, I think they're, I hate to say this, but like, like the blank capitalism of the world, I think, better, but, but these are the people who hate the state above all.
[00:15:56]  And Hamas is a non-state actor.
[00:15:58]  Israel is a state.
[00:15:59]  Israel must be worse.
[00:16:01]  All right, let's pause it right there.
[00:16:03]  So there's something strange that he does here, but it's just these words seem to have no meaning.
[00:16:09]  So first he says that I'm equating Israel and Hamas.
[00:16:16]  And then he says that Israel must be worse.
[00:16:18]  So just a point of order, just like that, which one is it?
[00:16:23]  Am I saying Israel's worse or am I saying that I'm equating them?
[00:16:29]  You can't have both of them.
[00:16:30]  You could have one or the other.
[00:16:32]  So anyway, none of that is actually what I said, as you guys can see in the tweet that I read.
[00:16:39]  I just mentioned that what Hamas did was horrific and also criminal.
[00:16:44]  And also that Israel's treatment of the people in Gaza is horrific and criminal.
[00:16:50]  I just mentioned those things.
[00:16:52]  I didn't say they're the same or this one group is worse or nothing like that.
[00:16:57]  This is all just what he's imagining because I dared to also mention the crimes of Israel.
[00:17:03]  That's it.
[00:17:04]  The rest of this is just all in his head.
[00:17:06]  Now, all of this stuff where he goes, well, the reason is because they hate Israel more is because Israel is a state and Hamas is not a state.
[00:17:16]  Now, again, it's not Yaron Brooke's job to know my positions on all this, but if you're going to make a video on it, you might want to know the first thing that you're talking about.
[00:17:26]  So let me just disprove that very quickly.
[00:17:30]  This is it.
[00:17:30]  For anyone who listens to this show and knows me, this is how easy it is to disprove that.
[00:17:34]  The riots of 2020.
[00:17:37]  Where was I on the riots of 2020?
[00:17:39]  Did I say like, well, that's not a state.
[00:17:42]  Therefore, I don't hate them.
[00:17:44]  Therefore, I'm not appalled by the violence and the looting and the destruction of property and the assaults and the murders and all that stuff.
[00:17:51]  No, I was one of the most vocal critics of the Black Lives Matter rioting because it's just completely unacceptable, like awful criminal behavior.
[00:18:02]  So I don't have a bias that if you're the state, you're worse.
[00:18:06]  This is just a lack of understanding of where we, me, and people like me are coming from.
[00:18:12]  What we hate is the violation of natural rights.
[00:18:16]  What we hate is violent aggression.
[00:18:19]  Okay.
[00:18:20]  That's where we're coming from.
[00:18:21]  And states happen to do that.
[00:18:24]  That's why we hate the state.
[00:18:26]  That's why we hate governments in general, because they all, because governments as really existing in the world, none of them exist in the way Yaron Brooke wants them to in his objectivist mind state, where they're like this night watchman state.
[00:18:38]  All of them violate natural rights of people.
[00:18:40]  And that's what we hate.
[00:18:42]  So I hate when Hamas is brutally murdering and torturing people.
[00:18:47]  And I also hate when Israel is brutally murdering, occupying, and denying basic liberty to large groups of people.
[00:18:56]  It actually makes perfect sense if you think about it and you're not in this emotional state.
[00:19:01]  All right.
[00:19:02]  Let's keep playing.
[00:19:06]  A complete moral equivalency between the two.
[00:19:09]  I'm a collectivist because I want to defend myself and I'm not going to actually go through a questionnaire to see who's my, who's innocent and who's not in defending myself.
[00:19:18]  I'm actually going to pause it right now.
[00:19:21]  Let's pause it right there.
[00:19:22]  Okay.
[00:19:23]  First of all, he keeps going back to this thing like, is it an equivalency?
[00:19:26]  Or am I saying that Israel's worse because they're the state?
[00:19:29]  You got to pick one here, buddy.
[00:19:30]  This is like logic 101.
[00:19:32]  Number two, and this is really the heart of the issue.
[00:19:35]  He says, he says, I want to defend myself and I don't feel like going through a questionnaire figuring out who's innocent and who's not innocent.
[00:19:45]  Okay.
[00:19:46]  Again, you are contradicting yourself left and right.
[00:19:50]  Here's the issue with not figuring out who's innocent and who's not innocent, right?
[00:19:55]  Isn't this really basic 101 stuff?
[00:19:58]  If you're attacking innocent people, then you're not defending yourself.
[00:20:04]  That's the difference.
[00:20:06]  I want to defend myself and I don't have time to figure out who's attacking me and who's not attacking me.
[00:20:10]  I'm just going to kill.
[00:20:11]  It's like, oh, okay, but that's not defending yourself.
[00:20:13]  Now, in fact, you're aggressing upon people who have a right to defend themselves.
[00:20:18]  See, you do have a right to defend yourself.
[00:20:20]  You don't have a right to attack innocent people.
[00:20:23]  And if you do, they have a right to defend themselves.
[00:20:26]  That's the whole heart of the matter here.
[00:20:29]  He just doesn't care.
[00:20:30]  I don't care.
[00:20:32]  I don't have time to answer a questionnaire about who's innocent and who's guilty.
[00:20:36]  We'll just start killing people.
[00:20:38]  Okay.
[00:20:39]  Well, what does that make you?
[00:20:42]  Not someone defending themselves.
[00:20:44]  All right, let's keep playing.
[00:20:48]  And that requires killing and that requires killing a civilians in innocence as well.
[00:20:53]  Okay, so pause it.
[00:20:54]  So there you go.
[00:20:55]  That requires killing and that requires the killing of innocent civilians as well.
[00:21:01]  Okay.
[00:21:02]  This is why you are a moral relativist.
[00:21:05]  Okay.
[00:21:06]  Because your whole outrage here is that innocent civilians have been killed.
[00:21:11]  But now you're saying it's okay in response for innocent civilians to be killed.
[00:21:16]  That's where the evil comes in.
[00:21:19]  All right.
[00:21:19]  This is not rocket science.
[00:21:21]  Now, the issue you have here is that now you're reduced to simple tribalist nothing because you could just as easily make an argument.
[00:21:31]  I mean, listen, seeing as how far more innocent Palestinians have been killed than Israelis have been killed, say over the last 15 years, over the last 30 years, over the last 70 years, right?
[00:21:43]  Wouldn't now basically you're using terrorist logic, that it doesn't matter, that they're on the hook.
[00:21:51]  By the way, this was precisely Osama bin Laden's argument as to why it was okay to target American citizens because they, hey, you voted for this.
[00:22:01]  So it doesn't matter.
[00:22:02]  I don't have time to figure out who's innocent and who's guilty.
[00:22:05]  That's that.
[00:22:05]  Sorry, we don't have time to, I don't have time for a questionnaire.
[00:22:08]  We're just killing your side.
[00:22:10]  This is the same argument that they have.
[00:22:12]  This is what you've been reduced to now.
[00:22:14]  The argument of a terrorist.
[00:22:16]  All right, let's keep playing.
[00:22:20]  Moral relativism, which again should be no surprise, but again, I'm saying it here because I know many of you are sympathetic to libertarians.
[00:22:26]  Many of you want to be tent with libertarians and with the new right.
[00:22:32]  It is so disgusting after the images and the pictures and what happened yesterday to draw moral equivalency, not to be able to see it.
[00:22:42]  I mean, to their credit, I had people in Poland, libertarians come up to me in Poland recently come and say, you know, after the Russian invasion in Poland, I'm no longer on ANCAP.
[00:22:54]  After the Russian invasion of Poland, I repudiate Mario Rothbard and all of that.
[00:22:58]  Because they got it.
[00:22:59]  Reality slapped them in the face.
[00:23:02]  But Dave Smith and his ilk among libertarians.
[00:23:06]  Pause for one second before we get into me and my ilk and what they are.
[00:23:09]  I think he's talking about the war in Ukraine.
[00:23:11]  He says Poland, but the idea that Vladimir Putin invaded Ukraine and therefore you're like, I repudiate Murray Rothbard and ANCAP.
[00:23:21]  I don't know who actually said this to him.
[00:23:23]  I struggle to believe that that's real, but whatever, maybe it is.
[00:23:27]  Maybe there's somebody, but that's pretty stupid.
[00:23:29]  The fact that a government committed a criminal invasion and therefore you went, man, these libertarians really have it all wrong.
[00:23:37]  They've never warned about that before.
[00:23:39]  They've never talked about how governments start wars.
[00:23:42]  And, you know, forget all the other stuff about how that war was provoked and how the, you know, the American government and the British government have been, you know, getting in the way of a peace agreement since the beginning of it.
[00:23:56]  All that being left aside.
[00:23:58]  What a stupid conclusion to come to because a government invaded another country.
[00:24:03]  Yeah, these people who are against governments violating rights, they don't know what they're talking about because a big government just violated all of our rights.
[00:24:10]  Okay.
[00:24:11]  All right.
[00:24:12]  So Dave Smith and his ilk.
[00:24:14]  Reality doesn't matter to them.
[00:24:16]  All that drives them is hatred.
[00:24:19]  All that drives them is a hatred, hatred of, quote, the state, hatred of government, hatred of civilization, hatred of progress, hatred of the good for being the good.
[00:24:32]  What do they hate Israel?
[00:24:33]  What do they got to get into?
[00:24:34]  How do you even like, and I mean this, how do you even respond to something so stupid?
[00:24:42]  It's this, this is, this argument would be weak for a third grader.
[00:24:48]  Like, Jaron Brooks should be deeply ashamed of himself for making a video like this.
[00:24:53]  Oh, they're driven by his hatred, hatred for progress, hatred for good.
[00:24:58]  Yes, that's right.
[00:24:59]  I guess we're just animated by Satan or something like that, and we hate everything good.
[00:25:03]  That's a wonderful psychoanalysis, really deep.
[00:25:06]  That was like, what a pathetic level of argument.
[00:25:10]  If I'm ever reduced to an argument like that, please stop listening to this show.
[00:25:15]  No, what we hate is innocent people being slaughtered.
[00:25:19]  And I think there's nothing wrong with hating that.
[00:25:22]  I would not say that we're not opposed to progress or good.
[00:25:28]  We're pretty clearly stating what our grievances here are.
[00:25:32]  So maybe take on that.
[00:25:34]  If you can't, like, I don't care what side of this you're on, you could completely disagree with me.
[00:25:39]  You could be the most pro-Israel guy.
[00:25:40]  You should think Israel should level the whole place.
[00:25:43]  If you cannot look at that and realize that that is a blatant childish straw man, then you should not be in the arena of listening to ideas or expressing ideas.
[00:25:54]  I don't know what to say about that.
[00:25:55]  Just embarrassing and stupid.
[00:25:58]  All right, let's keep playing.
[00:26:01]  Israel, it's a good, it's decent place, decent place to live, good place to live.
[00:26:07]  People thrive there.
[00:26:09]  That's why they hate it.
[00:26:10]  Don't let them fool you.
[00:26:12]  It's not because Israel has high taxes.
[00:26:15]  Okay, hold on, pause it for a second.
[00:26:18]  Don't let them fool you.
[00:26:20]  Don't let them suck you in with these excellent arguments that they make.
[00:26:24]  Don't let them talk about historical context or the crimes that Israel's committed or how that's wrong.
[00:26:30]  We got to kill innocent people.
[00:26:32]  They hate everything good.
[00:26:33]  We hate everything good.
[00:26:34]  Yet you're the one on record saying you're ready to kill innocent people.
[00:26:38]  And by the way, what are we talking about here?
[00:26:41]  What are we talking about?
[00:26:42]  You're talking about 2 million people in Gaza.
[00:26:45]  Okay.
[00:26:46]  More than half of them are children.
[00:26:48]  There's over a million children in Gaza right now.
[00:26:53]  And you are calling to level the place, to mass slaughter them.
[00:26:58]  But I'm against anything good.
[00:27:01]  You're the good guy here.
[00:27:02]  The guy calling for the slaughter of a million children.
[00:27:06]  That's the good guy in this scenario.
[00:27:09]  And don't, don't you believe me?
[00:27:11]  Don't you believe me that that's actually why I oppose this?
[00:27:14]  Don't you for a second think that might be my motivation here?
[00:27:17]  Don't listen to me when I say that.
[00:27:18]  No, that it's just because I hate good and I hate prosperity and progress and Israel's high taxes.
[00:27:26]  that's that's what's really going on here what a clown taxes right people are being butchered raped tortured but taxes are high so israel is not a good country so if hamas does it to israelis they have high taxes okay so pause it right there again i mean look if you can't just acknowledge that this is such a straw man argument when have any of us me and my ilk as he refers to them,
[00:27:57]  when have we ever said anything even remotely resembling this nonsense that he's spewing out of his mouth?
[00:28:04]  I hate Israel because they have high taxes.
[00:28:08]  So Hamas can do whatever they want to him because their taxes are high.
[00:28:12]  I mean, it's like so, I just, I genuinely struggle to imagine the feeling of cringiness that I would have inside of myself if I ever tried to just blatantly misrepresent someone the way he is to me right now.
[00:28:28]  There's nothing even close to that that I've ever said.
[00:28:32]  I don't know.
[00:28:33]  I honestly, I think the guy just saw that one tweet and just started making all of this shit up.
[00:28:38]  I think that's how dishonest this guy is.
[00:28:40]  He certainly, he doesn't know my position in the Libertarian Party.
[00:28:44]  He doesn't seem to be at all familiar with my arguments.
[00:28:46]  Because if you think, I don't think I've ever mentioned Israel's taxes in my life.
[00:28:50]  Like I don't, you know, I'm against taxes, but I don't really particularly care what the tax rate in Israel is.
[00:28:56]  It's like, I don't know.
[00:28:58]  This has just never been something that's ever been brought up.
[00:29:01]  And what if I ever said anything like Hamas can do whatever they want to Israel because they have high taxes?
[00:29:07]  It's just such a blatant straw, man.
[00:29:10]  Again, if you can't recognize that that's not actually my position here and Jaron Brooks just pulling shit out of his ass to argue with, I don't know what to tell you.
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=== Scott Horton's Lies (13:19) ===

[00:29:50]  All right, let's get back into the show.
[00:29:52]  All right, let's keep on.
[00:29:54]  Regularly.
[00:29:56]  You know, and then of course, oh, they occupy.
[00:29:59]  They oppress, which is ahistorical, ignorant nonsense.
[00:30:04]  Okay, let's pause it there.
[00:30:05]  Because now he actually hit on something for the first time, Yaron Brook, actually hit on something that we do claim and then just dismisses it by saying it's ahistorical nonsense.
[00:30:16]  Okay, it's nonsense.
[00:30:19]  Israel does not oppress.
[00:30:21]  That is not true.
[00:30:22]  You know, it's funny.
[00:30:23]  Like as Israel is launching this offensive, I'm sure some of you saw they announced they're cutting off the electricity of Gaza.
[00:30:32]  You might ask yourself, well, how can they do that?
[00:30:37]  Why is that so easy for them to do?
[00:30:39]  Oh, yeah, because they control that.
[00:30:41]  Yes, because Gaza is in effect an open-air prison where they control how much food, electricity, medical supplies get in.
[00:30:51]  They control who can leave and who can't leave.
[00:30:54]  Yeah, because they won a war in 1967.
[00:30:56]  So that gives them the right to dominate these people forever.
[00:31:00]  Yes, it is an occupation.
[00:31:02]  It is the definition of an occupation.
[00:31:04]  It is the definition of oppression.
[00:31:06]  And that is not ahistorical.
[00:31:08]  That is reality.
[00:31:09]  Okay.
[00:31:10]  And, you know, again, it's like the idea in war for objectivists who supposedly are against collectivism and are for individualism.
[00:31:22]  But I guess these 2 million people now lose all rights that they have.
[00:31:26]  And the fact that Israel is cutting off electricity to Gaza, again, an area with over a million children in it, does it not mess with you at all that like what the implications of that are as you're bombing an area?
[00:31:40]  This means no medical equipment.
[00:31:42]  This means no emergency treatment.
[00:31:44]  I mean, like that's not even a thought.
[00:31:47]  And you think you're the good guy?
[00:31:49]  You think you're in a position to morally lecture others while you cheer this on?
[00:31:54]  See, there's a real asymmetry here between these fucking disgusting war hawks and our position.
[00:31:59]  Because they can pretend that we're cheering on Hamas, but we're not.
[00:32:04]  We're sitting here and saying that was horrific what Hamas just did.
[00:32:08]  And that absolutely those people should be brought to justice and Israel has a right to defend itself and no innocent people should ever be targeted like that.
[00:32:15]  The difference is that sick fucks like you are actually cheering on the slaughter of children.
[00:32:21]  That's the difference here.
[00:32:23]  So get off your goddamn high horse.
[00:32:25]  You're just talking, oh, this is ahistorical.
[00:32:28]  That didn't really happen.
[00:32:29]  Let me ask you this, okay?
[00:32:30]  Yarn, is this ahistorical?
[00:32:33]  Did Israel support the rise of Hamas?
[00:32:36]  Is that true?
[00:32:37]  Or am I making that up also?
[00:32:40]  Did they support the rise of Hamas because they thought it would undermine the Palestinian authority?
[00:32:45]  Did they?
[00:32:46]  Here, let me pull this up real quick.
[00:32:48]  Because of course, Scott Horton just tweeted this out earlier.
[00:32:51]  I was literally going to look for this tweet or this quote rather.
[00:32:55]  So anyway, here's a quote, okay?
[00:32:57]  Tell me if this is ahistorical or if this is right, okay?
[00:33:00]  Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas.
[00:33:09]  This is part of our strategy to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.
[00:33:16]  You know who said that?
[00:33:17]  Benjamin Netanyahu.
[00:33:20]  This was the plan of the Israelis to support Hamas, to support Hamas, to divide Palestinians against each other.
[00:33:27]  And his finance minister also said, here's a quote.
[00:33:32]  The Palestinian Authority is a liability and Hamas is an asset on the international playing field in this game of delegitimization.
[00:33:41]  Think about for a second, the Palestinian Authority is a liability and Hamas is an asset.
[00:33:47]  And so what's the point he's making there?
[00:33:49]  It's a separate point from Netanyahu's, but it's also one of the reasons why they supported Hamas.
[00:33:55]  Netanyahu is saying, look, this will divide the Palestinians in the West Bank and the Palestinians in Gaza.
[00:34:00]  If they're not united, they're less of a threat to us.
[00:34:03]  And that can allow us to make sure they never get a state.
[00:34:06]  Now, Pope, you know, when speaking to an international audience, he'll say he's for a two-state solution.
[00:34:10]  But this is what he's saying, what he really believes.
[00:34:12]  It's like, no, no, no, we're never going to let them have that.
[00:34:14]  We'll divide them against each other.
[00:34:15]  But his foreign minister here is making a different point, which he's like, look, these Hamas dudes are so fucking crazy, these crazy radical Islamists, that no one's ever going to recognize them as a state.
[00:34:26]  They're never going to be taken seriously in the international community.
[00:34:29]  So as long as they're in charge, then they're never going to be granted statehood and we can continue to do whatever we want to these people.
[00:34:36]  Is that ahistorical, Your Hon?
[00:34:38]  Or is that what happened?
[00:34:40]  Are we not allowed to criticize them for literally helping to create Hamas to help them get elected 15 years ago or whatever it was?
[00:34:49]  No, more than that.
[00:34:50]  It's 2004, 2005.
[00:34:54]  Is that ahistorical or did that really happen?
[00:34:57]  I'm sure we're not allowed to criticize them.
[00:34:59]  Am I doing a whataboutism now by pointing out that your side fucking helped create the side that you want to go use as a justification to slaughter 2 million people?
[00:35:09]  So, you know, my opinion of libertarians, particularly of that ilk, von Mises Center ilk, von Mises Institute ilk, has been about as low as one could have, and it got lower.
[00:35:22]  You know, so really disgusting, really horrific.
[00:35:28]  Oh, Scott, Scott Horton, which is, who is their, you know, foreign policy expert, expert, completely ignorant.
[00:35:38]  Oh, it's all Israel's fault anyway.
[00:35:40]  All of this was Israel's fault.
[00:35:44]  I mean, just, and complaining about all the right-wingers on his stream, you know, defending Israel.
[00:35:53]  These are monsters.
[00:35:55]  The Imam, to share a tent with him?
[00:36:00]  I wouldn't share anything with him.
[00:36:01]  I wouldn't share a pencil with him.
[00:36:06]  So, no, I mean, and I got some emails.
[00:36:10]  I have to say after that rant I did on, what do you call it, on Twitter, I got a private message from somebody at Cato, not to be, I won't mention his name, but somebody, Cato, saying, thank you, Iran.
[00:36:29]  Thank you for taking these bastards on.
[00:36:32]  I got somebody who's affiliated with the Atlas network, the Atlas network, saying, what happened, Iran?
[00:36:40]  What's the rant?
[00:36:41]  And I told him and he said, yeah, I mean, those guys are just horrible, evil.
[00:36:45]  So again, there are better libertarians, but why they share the same name with these people, with these ugly, horrible human beings, I have no idea.
[00:36:57]  No idea.
[00:36:59]  So yes, I think Dave Smith has gone down, in my opinion, dramatically.
[00:37:06]  It wasn't very high to begin with, but very low in my opinion.
[00:37:09]  And Haunted, who again has been, he's like a mouthpiece of the Iranian regime.
[00:37:14]  He's like this guy has written books and articles and gift talks, excusing anything the Iranians do.
[00:37:24]  I wonder what he thinks about what he's said about the women who would like not to have their faces covered.
[00:37:29]  But Scott Hornton, yep, I have new appreciation of how low these people really are.
[00:37:39]  They're not friends.
[00:37:41]  We can pause there.
[00:37:42]  Yes.
[00:37:42]  Yes, Yaron, I'll agree.
[00:37:43]  We're not friends.
[00:37:44]  All right.
[00:37:44]  So I don't know.
[00:37:45]  Let me see what order to take this in.
[00:37:48]  Okay, at the risk of speaking for Scott Horton, but I think I can pretty comfortably speak for him on this.
[00:37:54]  If you said, I wonder what Scott Horton would say about women in Iran who don't want to wear the hijab, he would say, yeah, they ought to have a right not to.
[00:38:05]  Yeah.
[00:38:06]  That's what he'd probably say because he's a libertarian and believes in freedom.
[00:38:12]  This idea that, I mean, look, it really is just like the most childish.
[00:38:17]  Again, this would, I'd like to say, if you were doing like some type of debate exercise in third grade, I'd really, a teacher should not accept this.
[00:38:26]  Like definitely by like fifth grade, you'd be like, yo, you're going to fail if this is the line of argument you make.
[00:38:32]  So what he's saying is that because Scott Horton has written so much against the war propaganda to start a war with Iran, which if you don't remember, Iran having nothing to do with 9-11 was put on the axis of evil list right after 9-11.
[00:38:50]  And Netanyahu, you guys remember him, the guy who supported Hamas, that guy?
[00:38:56]  Okay, Netanyahu was going around saying they're five years away from getting a nuclear weapon.
[00:39:00]  And as soon as they get that nuclear weapon, they're going to use it on us.
[00:39:03]  Remember who's saying that since the 1990s?
[00:39:05]  Remember how he was lying through his teeth every fucking time?
[00:39:07]  Yeah, so Scott would be debunking all of that stuff.
[00:39:09]  So Yarin's argument is that, well, because you're against the American Israeli war machine, that means you're for Iran.
[00:39:19]  Literally would get in, should get you failed in the fifth grade if you made that line of argument.
[00:39:25]  Oh, you're against invading Iraq.
[00:39:27]  That must mean you love Saddam Hussein brutalizing his people.
[00:39:30]  It can't just mean that you don't want a war that's going to lead to a million people dying.
[00:39:35]  It means you love that guy.
[00:39:38]  Just unbelievable, dude.
[00:39:39]  Unbelievable.
[00:39:40]  Like, how fucking stupid is all of this?
[00:39:43]  And it's like, I don't know.
[00:39:44]  It's so stupid that I almost feel guilty making an episode debunking this stupidity because this is just too easy.
[00:39:52]  It's too easy to just eviscerate these non-arguments.
[00:39:56]  What on earth are you even talking about?
[00:39:57]  And then, by the way, the funniest part of all of this is like, for you guys who like, know the inside baseball of it, you're just like, even someone from Cato wrote to me to say they agree.
[00:40:07]  Yeah, okay.
[00:40:09]  Oh, wow.
[00:40:09]  David Boas wrote you an email.
[00:40:13]  I'm just guessing it's David Boas.
[00:40:14]  I don't actually know, but yeah, okay.
[00:40:16]  One of the people.
[00:40:16]  Go listen to Ted Carpenter, who's the best war reporter who just left Cato because they've completely sold out.
[00:40:23]  They've completely sold out.
[00:40:24]  Yeah, okay.
[00:40:25]  Fine.
[00:40:26]  Yeah, Cato sucks.
[00:40:27]  Okay.
[00:40:28]  Congratulations.
[00:40:29]  You got one of those guys.
[00:40:30]  Here, I'll tell you I don't know if I've told this story on the show before.
[00:40:32]  Quick fun story about David Boas.
[00:40:36]  I don't know.
[00:40:36]  Have I ever told this publicly?
[00:40:38]  So David Boas, he's like some nobody who works at the Cato Institute who just has the worst takes constantly.
[00:40:45]  But so he, so that the time I told you that I met Yaron Brooke is when I was hosting Freedom Fest.
[00:40:50]  And this was at the time, it was like a big gig for me to host Freedom Fest, really good money.
[00:40:54]  And it was really, you know, like a kind of cool thing to do.
[00:40:57]  And David Boas reached out to the people who run Freedom Fest and told them that I was a Holocaust denier and that they shouldn't have me host the event.
[00:41:09]  Tried to take money out of my kid's mouth and get me kicked off of this event because I'm a Holocaust denier.
[00:41:18]  The Jewish grandson of a Holocaust survivor evidently is a Holocaust denier now.
[00:41:23]  Just made it up.
[00:41:24]  This is like the level of these people.
[00:41:26]  This is how fucking evil these guys are.
[00:41:28]  Luna just made it up and just told them that.
[00:41:30]  Now, luckily for me, those guys who run the festival are really great guys, the Scousins.
[00:41:38]  And their family, really great people.
[00:41:41]  And they were like, this isn't, I don't know, we've gotten a lot of requests to have Dave here.
[00:41:45]  I don't really think like we get that many requests to have a Holocaust denier.
[00:41:48]  So they went, they called Gene Epstein because they know he knows me real well.
[00:41:52]  Cause I used to like do the Soho forums and stuff like that all the time.
[00:41:54]  This is like, you know, not that far removed from that time.
[00:41:57]  And they told him he was like, what?
[00:41:59]  No, this is, he's just completely making that up.
[00:42:02]  And so they were just kind of like, yeah, all right, whatever.
[00:42:05]  We don't need to have him.
[00:42:06]  And so like, cause I think he said, well, I won't go if Dave does if Dave's there.
[00:42:10]  And they were like, yeah, we'll just, we'll take Dave.
[00:42:12]  And anyway, so that didn't work out.
[00:42:13]  But yeah, so I'm sure a guy like that will send you an email and be like, go, Yaron, you really got these guys.
[00:42:19]  The truth is, Yarn Brooke, you are publicly humiliating yourself.
[00:42:25]  That's all that's happening here.
[00:42:27]  So anybody, anybody who can't see through the pathetic level of argumentation that you put forward in that video, anyone who can't see through that, you can have them.
[00:42:37]  You can take those guys and we'll take all of the rest of them.
[00:42:40]  I guarantee you, there are people listening to this and even people who listen to your stream, although there's not that many who listen to yours, but a lot more of them will see it now.
[00:42:50]  I guarantee you, there's people listening to this who are sympathetic to your side of this issue who are like, yeah, that's still really like lame, the way you went about that.
[00:43:02]  Just how like shitty and dishonest is it to try to pretend that that was in any way taking on or grappling with any of my arguments.

=== Fume vs Vapor (02:23) ===

[00:43:10]  Like you could talk shit about Scott Horton.
[00:43:11]  Do you ever see Scott Horton versus Bill Crystal?
[00:43:13]  You know what Scott Horton would do to you if you like stepped into a debate with him?
[00:43:17]  He would make mince meat out of you.
[00:43:20]  Just tear your arguments to shreds.
[00:43:23]  It would be beautiful to watch.
[00:43:25]  By the way, Keith Knight, after Yaron made this video, Keith Knight, who also made a response video to it that was very good.
[00:43:32]  But he said Libertarian Institute will be happy to host a debate between me and Yaron on this topic.
[00:43:38]  Anytime, dude, let's go.
[00:43:41]  I will tear you to shreds if you bring this type of pathetic, this type of pathetic rant to the table.
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=== Government Propaganda (08:47) ===

[00:45:33]  We'll wrap this up fairly soon here because I think I've basically made my points, but I just like to try to reiterate here, really think about what's going on.
[00:45:42]  This is how crazy it is, right?
[00:45:44]  What I initially said that triggered this unhinged rant from Yaron Brook that allows him to be on his moral high horse about how evil I am and how disgusting I am and how I oppose everything good and I oppose progress and I hate Israel because of their because of their taxes.
[00:46:05]  I think Hamas has the right to kill Israeli.
[00:46:07]  This is really the level of representation of my argument that he put out there.
[00:46:12]  Okay.
[00:46:13]  Think about something here.
[00:46:16]  This is what I said that triggered him so much.
[00:46:21]  We should root for peace and recognize that all innocent life is precious.
[00:46:26]  That was the heart of my message.
[00:46:29]  That was the heart of my message.
[00:46:31]  That it's tragic when innocent people in Israel die and it's tragic when innocent people in Palestine die.
[00:46:37]  That's the message that he considers to be evil as he advocates the mass slaughter of children.
[00:46:45]  And somehow that's just not supposed to matter.
[00:46:47]  That's just not supposed to matter at all.
[00:46:49]  I guess because Hamas did what they did, their rights are now all, their rights have all been negated.
[00:46:57]  So let me just ask you this question, okay?
[00:47:00]  Because Jarn Brook is saying that he's not a moral relativist, that he's the good guy here, right?
[00:47:06]  So if you don't believe in relativism, I'd imagine this standard doesn't only apply to Hamas and Israel, right?
[00:47:16]  So let me just ask you, let's say your argument here is what?
[00:47:19]  That they voted for Hamas, right?
[00:47:24]  You know, obviously with some Israeli interference and them helping them, but let's just even say, let's take that away.
[00:47:30]  Let's say there was an Israeli interference and let's say we know for sure that the election's legitimate.
[00:47:34]  And in 2005 or whatever it was, they voted for Hamas and therefore everyone is guilty.
[00:47:41]  Even as I mentioned, the over 1 million children who were not voting in that election, but they're guilty too.
[00:47:49]  Everybody's guilty.
[00:47:51]  If your people, if a majority of your people voted and that government went and brutalized other people, then all of your rights are suspended and you deserve to be flattened.
[00:48:08]  Can we apply that standard across the board?
[00:48:11]  Or is it only when it comes to Israel and Palestine and only in Israel's favor?
[00:48:20]  Which one is it here?
[00:48:22]  Can we apply that to the United States of America?
[00:48:24]  I mean, hey, the United States of America in the last 20 years has fought war in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Syria, in Libya, in Somalia.
[00:48:33]  We backed the war in Yemen, had a drone campaign in Pakistan, and we vote here.
[00:48:39]  We voted for those regimes that did that.
[00:48:42]  Again, you're into Osama bin Laden logic, but that's where you're living now.
[00:48:47]  So what do we now, are all of our rights suspended?
[00:48:52]  If a Middle Eastern country had the capacity to enact revenge the way Israel is about to on Palestine, if they had the capacity to do that, would they be morally justified in doing that?
[00:49:03]  Kill as many American children as you want to because their parents voted for George W. Bush and Barack Obama?
[00:49:09]  That seems to be the logic here.
[00:49:11]  So please explain to me why this is not actually correct.
[00:49:14]  Are we just inherently better?
[00:49:16]  Or we are just, you know, because we're the moral ones and they're the immoral ones and we're not individualists anymore.
[00:49:22]  We can now cast entire collectively, cast entire nations as just being all guilty, even the kids, even the babies.
[00:49:31]  They're all guilty too.
[00:49:32]  What if there was a Middle Eastern country who had the capacity to just level us?
[00:49:36]  Would they be right to do it?
[00:49:37]  What if they, oh, if they gave us a warning, if they said 24 hours, get all your women and children out of there, and then we're just going to start leveling the place?
[00:49:44]  Oh, and by the way, you're not allowed to leave.
[00:49:49]  Would that be okay?
[00:49:51]  No, it wouldn't, right?
[00:49:53]  That certainly wouldn't be okay if Palestine, which could just as easily use this logic that you're using against them against Israel.
[00:50:01]  Just as easily say you've been brutalizing us forever.
[00:50:04]  Far more Palestinians have died than Israelis have died in the Israel-Palestine conflict.
[00:50:10]  That's just a fact.
[00:50:12]  That ain't ahistorical.
[00:50:14]  That's a fact of history.
[00:50:16]  So do they have a right to have that attitude?
[00:50:19]  Can they say that all of your rights are suspended now?
[00:50:22]  Oh, they can.
[00:50:24]  And what that looks like is Hamas's attack the other day, which I called out as horrific and criminal, right?
[00:50:32]  So this is the nice thing about not being a fucking hypocrite.
[00:50:35]  You can actually have principles and apply them across the board.
[00:50:39]  And you don't have to like reduce yourself to these like, to this like self-humiliation that people like Yarn Brook and this guy, Kevin Gutzman, who I was arguing with, like all of them have to reduce themselves to at this point in time.
[00:50:52]  That's unbelievable, man.
[00:50:54]  And like, yeah, you know, he said in the video, like, oh, we're calling out right-wingers who fell into this so quickly.
[00:50:59]  But yeah, yeah, absolutely.
[00:51:01]  We are.
[00:51:01]  Like, have these people learned nothing over the last 20 years?
[00:51:05]  Just learned absolutely nothing that we're all just supposed to be gung-ho for war.
[00:51:10]  And these arguments, you know, like even the closest thing I think that came to an argument from Yaron Brooke was like, he's like, after seeing the pictures and after seeing the videos of what they did, you're not supporting this war for full throttle.
[00:51:23]  And it's like, yeah, that's right.
[00:51:25]  That's how that's how propaganda works.
[00:51:27]  Get you very emotional, get you very emotional, and then don't think things through at all and just support it.
[00:51:33]  And that the other side loses all humanity, even the ones who had nothing to do with it.
[00:51:37]  Even the ones who had absolutely nothing to do with it, they still lose all credit.
[00:51:42]  They still lose all humanity.
[00:51:43]  That's how government propaganda works.
[00:51:46]  And the last thing I'll say is just this.
[00:51:52]  This vision that Yaron Brook has is just so that this vision of like empire abroad, fighting wars throughout the Middle East, fighting, you know, supporting Israel in their war against Palestine.
[00:52:06]  And I guarantee you, Yaron Brook supports the American assistance in this war, supports the American foreign aid for Israel.
[00:52:15]  All of this, believing in the American empire, but with a restrained constitutional government at home is the most laughably ridiculous worldview.
[00:52:29]  It's just so, it's so childish and removed from reality.
[00:52:33]  That, look, war is the health of the state.
[00:52:37]  There's a reason why during wartime, government expands and violates civil liberties in a way that they never can during peacetime.
[00:52:45]  You know, you can think of a million examples of this, but almost every single war, almost every war in history is accompanied by tremendous growth in government and tremendous violations of constitutional limitations and violations of their own citizens' natural rights.
[00:53:01]  So this idea that you're ever going to be for all these wars and then talk some type of game about like laissez-faire free markets, it's all bullshit.
[00:53:09]  It's all, it's just more than useless.
[00:53:11]  You're like, what, when it really matters, when it really counts, you are indistinguishable from the neocons, indistinguishable.
[00:53:19]  So if you say, you know, you don't want a big tent with libertarians, great.
[00:53:25]  Nobody asked you to be in our fucking tent, dude.
[00:53:28]  Like, bail.
[00:53:30]  That's not what we're doing.
[00:53:31]  See, unlike you, we oppose the state.
[00:53:34]  War is the health of the state, and you support war.
[00:53:38]  So do the math.
[00:53:40]  You support the biggest government in the history of the world.
[00:53:45]  Way to carry on Ayn Rand's legacy.
[00:53:49]  The biggest government in the history of the world and you're its cheerleader.
[00:53:53]  You have the nerve to tell me that I'm disgusting as you advocate children being murdered.
[00:54:00]  All right.
[00:54:01]  That's it.
[00:54:02]  Hope you guys enjoyed it.
[00:54:03]  Oh, I will say, like I mentioned that Keith Knight said they're happy to host.
[00:54:08]  I already accept.
[00:54:09]  Name the time and place, Yaron Brooke.
[00:54:11]  Let's have this out.
[00:54:13]  And I am very confident that you won't.
[00:54:16]  So make that embarrassing video and now go run and hide.
[00:54:19]  All right.
[00:54:19]  That's it.
[00:54:20]  Peace.