Part Of The Problem - Dave Smith - POTP X THE BOYSCAST
Aired: 2023-10-07
Duration: 01:22:15


=== Skankfest Chaos and Schedule (14:33) ===

[00:00:00]  Hey guys, thanks for listening.
[00:00:01]  Sorry we've been a little bit off with the schedule lately, but coming off of SkankFest has been a little bit crazy.
[00:00:06]  We did record an awesome boys cast part of the problem crossover, and that's what we have for you guys tonight.
[00:00:12]  Don't forget that me and Robbie the Fire Bernstein are out at Mohegan's Sun right now.
[00:00:17]  Tomorrow, Saturday night, we have two shows out there.
[00:00:20]  Come check us out at Comics Roadhouse at the Mohegan Sun.
[00:00:24]  Gonna be a lot of fun.
[00:00:25]  Hope to see some of you guys there.
[00:00:26]  Enjoy the crossover pod.
[00:00:29]  Fill her up.
[00:00:30]  You are listening to the cash human.
[00:00:37]  We need to roll back the state.
[00:00:39]  We spy on all of our own citizens.
[00:00:41]  Our prisons are flooded with nonviolent drug offenders.
[00:00:45]  If you want to know who America's next enemy is, look at who we're funding right now.
[00:00:50]  Every single one of these problems are a result of government being way too big.
[00:00:55]  You're listening to part of the problem on the gas digital network.
[00:00:59]  Here's your host.
[00:01:01]  James Dewitt.
[00:01:02]  What's up, everybody?
[00:01:03]  Welcome to a very special boyscast part of the problem crossover here at SkankFest in my hotel room because we couldn't get the podcast studio.
[00:01:14]  This is better than the studio.
[00:01:16]  I think this hotel room for your five days might be more than my annual salary on the show.
[00:01:22]  Like if we just put you in the window, if we just put you in a different room, those are Skank wages.
[00:01:29]  I would describe it as a competitive wage, and I think that's not right.
[00:01:33]  I told you, Lewis gets me the nicest hotel rooms at Skankfest so he can justify getting himself the nicest hotel room and then go, I got it for all of us.
[00:01:43]  You know what I mean?
[00:01:43]  And I'm like, I never asked.
[00:01:44]  I never asked.
[00:01:45]  This room looks like you own Las Vegas.
[00:01:48]  It does feel that way a little bit.
[00:01:50]  If you can't see, it's all windows around here.
[00:01:52]  It's fun to masturbate.
[00:01:54]  It's real fun.
[00:01:54]  I'm at the Mary Antoinette vibes up here.
[00:01:57]  Yeah, he got the request because you can hear the DJ music a little bit now.
[00:02:00]  Everyone's been complaining about it.
[00:02:02]  But 901, there's a guy with a huge mouse head jumping around.
[00:02:06]  There's one guy in the pool, like doing it, doing a Bluetooth call, being like, can you keep it down?
[00:02:11]  I think that's what Steven Paddock was doing.
[00:02:13]  Is that what inspired him?
[00:02:14]  He goes, shut up.
[00:02:16]  And he just like mowed.
[00:02:17]  I was ready to trash my terror.
[00:02:19]  I'm 935 when he started saying, now the fellas.
[00:02:24]  Dude, if you've never been to Fremont Street in Vegas, it is just, it's a different level of garbage than you could possibly describe.
[00:02:32]  It is truly just like, it is an insane environment.
[00:02:35]  It's crazy what people have made a career out of here because there's like a lady that just wears a nun outfit with her tits out.
[00:02:42]  She was pregnant last year.
[00:02:43]  Do you remember that?
[00:02:44]  So last year.
[00:02:44]  Two days off.
[00:02:46]  Last year.
[00:02:47]  Last year for Skank Fest.
[00:02:49]  She was pregnant and she wears, she has her tits out with these like X black X's taped on them.
[00:02:54]  And then now she's like not pregnant.
[00:02:55]  But I was wondering if they would like the job was you had to be pregnant so there'd be like a new pregnant one.
[00:03:00]  You thought that was the game.
[00:03:02]  Well, the boss is like, like we ought to be pregnant.
[00:03:04]  We have a room.
[00:03:04]  Like I was wondering how depraved this was where they're like, you have to be pregnant.
[00:03:08]  I noticed that there were multiple people playing the ugly nun character with giant tits.
[00:03:13]  And I was wondering how much demand is there for it.
[00:03:15]  It's like the Wolverine from Time.
[00:03:16]  Yeah, that there's more than one of these.
[00:03:18]  Well, I mean, Rob, our free market understanding would dictate that if they're still out here, there is a market demand for it.
[00:03:25]  So that being said, though, it's more, it's the market demand like the New York has.
[00:03:29]  They're giving you their CDs to market demand.
[00:03:30]  There's zero market demand.
[00:03:32]  But the game is they get you and they go, oh, how's it going?
[00:03:35]  I want to get a photo public like $400.
[00:03:37]  Do you think the people that couldn't make it in Times Square taking photographs, they get like, they get recruited for years?
[00:03:42]  Yeah.
[00:03:44]  You've got to get a license.
[00:03:45]  Like, I don't know if you saw there's these black circles drawn everywhere.
[00:03:48]  So they have to figure it out.
[00:03:50]  I do like Rob's idea, though.
[00:03:52]  You think maybe they're like, listen, don't take it personal.
[00:03:54]  Like, go kill it on Fremont and we'll call you back up to the big show.
[00:03:58]  It's also like the cop that gets his gun and badge taken away.
[00:04:01]  They take this Batman suit away and they give him rubbing it.
[00:04:04]  They're going to send you to the B-leags.
[00:04:07]  You're not fit to wear that.
[00:04:08]  He's back at home with his wife.
[00:04:09]  Don't worry.
[00:04:10]  You'll be on Times Square playing Elmo soon enough.
[00:04:12]  You'll be back.
[00:04:14]  Yeah, it's a fucking, for people who aren't here, man.
[00:04:16]  If you can make it out to Skank Fest one of these years, it really is pretty incredible.
[00:04:20]  It's a wild.
[00:04:21]  Just the amount of drop-in guests from people that are just like massive, you know, just huge, massive stars.
[00:04:27]  It's strange that we're able.
[00:04:28]  We just did a Legion of Skanks with Roseanne Barr, which was, it was surreal.
[00:04:32]  It was great.
[00:04:33]  If you guys haven't, you have to go check that out.
[00:04:35]  I think it's going to be out by the time you guys are listening.
[00:04:37]  I've never done Montreal.
[00:04:39]  It feels to me like we've dwarfed them.
[00:04:41]  It's way better.
[00:04:42]  Well, okay, so the Just for Laughs festival in Montreal, I've done twice, is just, it's a whole, you can't even really compare them because it's like the thing about Montreal, I don't know, maybe it's not like this anymore, but I got it in 2013 and it was like, oh, I got something.
[00:04:56]  You know, it's like, oh, the first time I got something.
[00:04:58]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:04:58]  You're like, maybe something will come from this.
[00:05:00]  I think it'd be Robin Williams.
[00:05:01]  Yeah.
[00:05:01]  Like, you know, these dumb delusions.
[00:05:03]  I'll get a development deal or whatever.
[00:05:05]  And you go and you're performing for like a room that I'd say is mostly industry.
[00:05:09]  So you're like nervous and they're the worst people in the world.
[00:05:13]  And it's just, so it's, but this is just a hang.
[00:05:16]  Yeah.
[00:05:16]  Like this is just a fun fan and comedian experience.
[00:05:19]  So it's a totally different thing.
[00:05:21]  But you're definitely going to have a lot more fun doing this than you would have doing Just for Laugh.
[00:05:25]  And it also, you're just like so in the mix with people that it'll be a guy that Friday night, you're like, this is my hero.
[00:05:30]  By Sunday night, you're like, can you give me a break, buddy?
[00:05:35]  Oh, I'm in an elevator.
[00:05:37]  Leave me alone.
[00:05:39]  I can't shake him.
[00:05:40]  Yeah.
[00:05:40]  It's very.
[00:05:41]  That's what it's the, you know, the things where if certain places have all different people of wealth together, but a lot of, like, there isn't that many things.
[00:05:50]  This is the most of that.
[00:05:52]  Yes.
[00:05:52]  You know?
[00:05:52]  Yes.
[00:05:53]  There are, there's the green room is a mix of, no exaggeration, multi-millionaires and people.
[00:06:01]  Works at a bar to supplement it.
[00:06:03]  People who, like, if I threw them a 20, it would change their life.
[00:06:06]  They would be like, dude, thank you.
[00:06:08]  You see that guy moonlighting as the nun girl.
[00:06:12]  I can tell you.
[00:06:13]  I understand.
[00:06:14]  That guy came out of Skank Fest and went up to the nun girl and went like, so what do you got to do to get it?
[00:06:18]  Is there like a period to break into this or what?
[00:06:21]  Stop talking with them.
[00:06:23]  Hey, I was going to ask you, have you guys been getting hard over the Argentina guy?
[00:06:28]  Because that guy, yo, I watched the interview with him and it was translated, but this guy was literally, he was saying, like, he just read Atlas Shrugged and the Wealth of Nations.
[00:06:38]  It was like textbook.
[00:06:39]  Dude, he's like, Libertarian doctor.
[00:06:41]  He read the more hardcore books than he's like a Rothbard, like the real hardcore book.
[00:06:45]  No, I'm sure he is.
[00:06:47]  I'm saying, like, he was saying, because it really is when I guess when countries get so messed up, it's like back to basics.
[00:06:53]  That's kind of why, right?
[00:06:54]  Yeah, he's, dude, what he's doing is incredible.
[00:06:57]  It's making you feel like, oh, maybe that could actually happen.
[00:07:03]  The libertarian swags coming up.
[00:07:06]  They're getting like 100% interest rates.
[00:07:08]  Like, that's what the Argentina, we were talking about.
[00:07:10]  So they might, like, the interest rates in Argentina are literally like 100%.
[00:07:13]  They're going to really make a mess of things.
[00:07:16]  So we need hyperinflation that then they try to roll in with crazy interest rates.
[00:07:21]  But look, it's kind of true, right?
[00:07:23]  There's a fucked up dynamic where, like, when was the height of like the anti-war movement?
[00:07:29]  It was like when the war in Iraq was at its worst.
[00:07:31]  Yeah.
[00:07:32]  You know what I mean?
[00:07:32]  It's like, so it's like, in order to get like a good movement going, we got to really screw things up.
[00:07:37]  Well, it's the same as like right now they have, there's a big like, I don't need no man movement.
[00:07:41]  Like they really need to figure out.
[00:07:43]  They just need a man.
[00:07:44]  Like it needs to get really bad.
[00:07:48]  Well, that's right.
[00:07:48]  Because like as soon as you're like, yeah, I don't need no man.
[00:07:51]  It's like, okay, what happens when a man attacks you?
[00:07:53]  Yeah.
[00:07:54]  So that's what I'm saying.
[00:07:55]  I wasn't saying that needs to happen.
[00:07:57]  What do you think is?
[00:07:58]  So I'm saying that needs to happen.
[00:07:59]  If you're listening right now, step outside.
[00:08:02]  What do you think is bottom for the lady who says, I don't need no man?
[00:08:05]  I'm guessing it's three days in the house.
[00:08:06]  I think bottom for those ladies is they started in OnlyFans and it didn't take.
[00:08:12]  I was going to say it's three days in the house trying on an outfit with no one to say, that looks fine.
[00:08:18]  I told you it's fine.
[00:08:20]  Well, they're just waiting.
[00:08:20]  They've never caught a cab.
[00:08:23]  I've missed 12,000 Ubers in a row.
[00:08:27]  Never once.
[00:08:30]  No, it does have to.
[00:08:31]  It kind of has to get to that.
[00:08:32]  You know what?
[00:08:33]  You had a good point because we were just talking about like every once in a while.
[00:08:37]  We don't cover that much Canada stuff, but every once in a while it kind of pops back up where there's somebody that actually becomes like, you know, American.
[00:08:43]  But you had a good point because I've always, what was that movie where they go, or maybe it was a show about news and they go, America is the best country in the world.
[00:08:52]  And he goes, Jeff Daniels does the big speech about why it's not.
[00:08:56]  And then you were kind of like, well, if you're measuring best country, you're not going to, it's not about, you know, who treats, it's about who has the biggest economy, who has the biggest cultural influence, who has the biggest military.
[00:09:07]  And I kind of, I thought, like building on what you said, I always thought it, you go, yeah, if you were going to say best company, like Martha's Bakery that has like three employees that can go on vacation, wherever, it's like, that does sound like a better place to work.
[00:09:19]  Right.
[00:09:19]  But that doesn't make it the best company.
[00:09:21]  Well, dude, that fucking.
[00:09:22]  You got free cupcakes?
[00:09:23]  Yeah, you go.
[00:09:24]  Probably.
[00:09:24]  So you can make another pickup.
[00:09:25]  You can make an argument that if you're poor, America isn't the best country to live.
[00:09:30]  But that doesn't make, that's not really the definition of what the best is.
[00:09:33]  Dude, that show sucked so much balls, dude.
[00:09:36]  There was some funny parts.
[00:09:38]  No, I mean funny, like making fun of it.
[00:09:40]  Newsroom, I think it was called, right?
[00:09:41]  And it was like, what was so annoying about it is that they had like a good cast and they had a great idea, which was like, oh, the concept of the show was that there's like this one like mainstream corporate press anchor who just fucking snaps and is like, I'm telling the truth.
[00:09:59]  Like, I don't care.
[00:10:00]  I'm just doing this.
[00:10:01]  And so it was like, oh, it was over the years.
[00:10:02]  But the truth is like CNN.
[00:10:03]  But his truth was just being MSNBC.
[00:10:06]  So every time it was like the character was like, you know what, that's it.
[00:10:08]  Climate change is a threat.
[00:10:11]  Oh, dude, come on.
[00:10:12]  If you're going to do this show, you have to do it.
[00:10:14]  Like, you have to actually.
[00:10:15]  So he lived, but that was really the show.
[00:10:18]  Like, I'm sorry, the Republicans are racist.
[00:10:20]  Somebody's got to say it.
[00:10:22]  Everyone says it.
[00:10:23]  Everyone already says it.
[00:10:24]  What is that?
[00:10:24]  There's also the other, like, that was funny, but, and also on top of that, the way that they talked about news.
[00:10:32]  At one point, there was like a meeting and they did it.
[00:10:34]  They had a thing.
[00:10:35]  And then the one guy looks at the other guy and goes, I fucking love the news.
[00:10:40]  They paid like the reverence they had for news.
[00:10:45]  It was so cringy, but like you were almost, it was also, at least to me, frustrating where I was like, you could have actually made like a great show with this.
[00:10:52]  That would have been really cool, you know?
[00:10:53]  But you talk about actual journalism.
[00:10:55]  Right, right.
[00:10:56]  Yeah, we're talking about it.
[00:10:56]  Oh, like a show that someone who like stood up and whistle on some corruption and like fucking.
[00:11:01]  Yeah, you're right.
[00:11:02]  An easy way to do it that wasn't even partisan is to have like a big whistleblower on some.
[00:11:07]  Yeah.
[00:11:08]  Just something that everyone could do.
[00:11:09]  No, they didn't have to make a military write or anything.
[00:11:11]  You know, I mean, like, I mean, I could write a good version of that.
[00:11:14]  I'm never going to.
[00:11:15]  Yeah.
[00:11:15]  The problem is with those ones is like the journalist always just uncovers.
[00:11:18]  It's like their boss.
[00:11:19]  That's the bad guy.
[00:11:20]  And then they go, yeah, I guess we're not going to report on that.
[00:11:22]  We're just going to put that.
[00:11:23]  Do you remember how crazy?
[00:11:24]  The craziest one ever to me was that chick at ABC who the hot mic thing came out about how she had the Epstein story.
[00:11:32]  Yeah.
[00:11:33]  Like and they told her to kill it.
[00:11:35]  Hot mics were chilling journalists for a while.
[00:11:38]  God bless a fucking hot mic.
[00:11:40]  Really, it is whoever the heroes, whoever are the people who release the hot mics, whoever's just some guy who makes 60 grand a year working at fucking ABC.
[00:11:47]  He's like, I'm fucking releasing this shit.
[00:11:48]  I don't give a fuck.
[00:11:50]  That guy's a hero.
[00:11:51]  Didn't get the weekend off because he wanted to go to like some festival.
[00:11:54]  Right?
[00:11:55]  And then he's like, fuck you, man.
[00:11:58]  Kind of what it is.
[00:11:59]  That's great.
[00:12:00]  If I'm missing Burning Man, you're going down over Epstein.
[00:12:03]  Every once in a while, there'll be a guy that almost screws over some big company that was just the intern at Amazon that has access to the Twitter account.
[00:12:13]  He was there, Bobby Hutch.
[00:12:15]  Anyway, they're all over the place.
[00:12:19]  But it was so crazy that first, like...
[00:12:21]  It was wild that she's talking about how ABC told her she couldn't run a story about a child rapist ring involving the most powerful people in the world because it would hurt the relationship with the royal family.
[00:12:35]  Like that right away is like, holy shit.
[00:12:38]  Like, can you paint a portrait of evil more than that?
[00:12:41]  And then...
[00:12:42]  How important are Megan Markle stories to your bottom line?
[00:12:45]  Yeah, right.
[00:12:46]  And then for some reason, Suits is like the number one show for the last like, I don't know, three months.
[00:12:51]  I can't handle it.
[00:12:53]  I don't know why.
[00:12:53]  No, they obviously are like purposely putting it on the front page of Netflix, like number one slot.
[00:12:58]  But then people are watching it.
[00:12:59]  So it's my experience with Suits was I wanted to make fun of her and I was like, I never heard of it.
[00:13:03]  And you fell in love.
[00:13:04]  Oh my God.
[00:13:04]  I watched the whole thing.
[00:13:06]  It was like two months ago, and it was so good.
[00:13:08]  I mean, it was bad, like by season five, but it was like one of those like bad classic shows that you could kind of just groove with.
[00:13:14]  Well, I had one of you to work with me and just cut a Megan Merkel compilation.
[00:13:17]  So I've just sort of watched that because I trimmed the fat and stuff.
[00:13:21]  Yeah, I just want to see the Merkel parts.
[00:13:22]  Well, dude, but so the ABC thing, so the other thing I thought was so interesting about it was like, so it's like this chick is seeing how evil the whole thing is, but then she's also so evil because you can see where she's pissed off that it would have been a big story for her.
[00:13:37]  Right, right, right.
[00:13:38]  She didn't get it out.
[00:13:40]  And she's also getting emotional because she's like, I had it.
[00:13:42]  It was my story.
[00:13:44]  I was going to break it.
[00:13:45]  Three of these years later, the other guys break it.
[00:13:47]  And now I'm just sitting there like, that was my big story.
[00:13:49]  And you're like, yo, bitch, you didn't resign?
[00:13:53]  Like, you didn't go like, you're covering up a child rapist ring that involves like fucking presidents and princes and all of these important people.
[00:14:02]  I had like five, I had five girls working undercover there.
[00:14:05]  I just had to leave them there because of my funding that cut.
[00:14:08]  And I got fucked up for you.
[00:14:11]  That was my big moment.
[00:14:14]  She probably has like a decent gig still, though, just because she didn't do that, though.
[00:14:17]  I don't know whatever fucking thing.
[00:14:18]  You know, she plays ball.
[00:14:19]  Yeah, exactly.
[00:14:20]  She, you know.
[00:14:21]  Yeah, I don't know.
[00:14:22]  That's you guys watching, look it up.
[00:14:23]  I don't know where she is.
[00:14:24]  I wonder if she's left.
[00:14:26]  Yeah, that was a wild.
[00:14:26]  Probably married to some royalty somewhere.
[00:14:28]  You guys said you get your Canadian stories when you do, and you got a nice, you got a nice one last year.

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[00:17:21]  Doesn't Jordan Peterson, you're just saying mentioning, I don't know what's the status of that, but he was forced in some re-education thing or something.
[00:17:28]  Yeah, like he had voice training.
[00:17:30]  It was like Twitter training.
[00:17:31]  Don't you feel like Jordan Peterson would show up for that class and just break whoever the instructor of that was?

=== Nazi Comparisons in India (15:56) ===

[00:17:37]  They'd be like, we need to go over this.
[00:17:38]  And he's like, it's not self-evident to me that we do need to go over this.
[00:17:42]  And then you become, and then you're in the cave.
[00:17:44]  And then you're in Pinocchio and you have a big nose and your father's a tyrant.
[00:17:48]  And you're just like, just keep doing what you're doing.
[00:17:52]  Like, all right, man, just tweet whatever you want to do.
[00:17:54]  We just have to do two hours of this.
[00:17:56]  Just go on your phone.
[00:17:56]  It'll just say you did it.
[00:17:58]  So what?
[00:17:59]  So the fucking, the Nazi thing did seem to bring some shame, though.
[00:18:02]  Trudeau apologized.
[00:18:04]  That was almost like a cut and dry one.
[00:18:05]  You know what I mean?
[00:18:07]  They're just so, you know, they have their, that's very like their intersectional pyramid.
[00:18:14]  That's not on the radar.
[00:18:15]  You know what I mean?
[00:18:15]  So that's just, they're not looking for that.
[00:18:17]  But the one that recently was there's, we got, we know a guy named Daniel Boardman that covered it, right?
[00:18:22]  And he sort of explained it.
[00:18:23]  The reason it's so funny is so basically there's this group of like Sikh separatists and Indian government's basically like, those are terrorists, right?
[00:18:34]  And then Justin Trudeau is like, hey, you can't say that just because they're brown.
[00:18:39]  And then Trudeau's going to, or the Indian government's like, these ones actually are, though.
[00:18:43]  And he's like, come on, man.
[00:18:44]  Yeah.
[00:18:45]  Well, they have a ton of them.
[00:18:45]  And then basically.
[00:18:46]  That's like how kind of the one of them got murdered.
[00:18:48]  Well, yeah, but one of them got murdered and this guy got murdered in Canada.
[00:18:52]  And then Justin Trudeau is like, the Indian government murdered a Canadian national, which is like huge.
[00:18:58]  You can't murder someone in government, right?
[00:19:01]  That's like insane.
[00:19:02]  And so the whole government's like, holy shit.
[00:19:04]  Like the Nazi thing, honestly, but the Indian government is saying, no, we didn't.
[00:19:09]  Obviously.
[00:19:09]  By the way, it's so funny when there's just, it reminds me of like the Uyghurs in China, where there's just something pretty funny where, look, there were a bunch of them who were like training with terrorist camps and then like went back to China and stuff.
[00:19:20]  And that's the Chinese government's like excuse.
[00:19:22]  It's like we're cracking down on terrorism.
[00:19:24]  But it's just so funny to hear like the American government go like, hey, you can't just declare a whole group of people terrorists and then just start violating their rights.
[00:19:33]  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:19:34]  You can't do stuff like that.
[00:19:35]  All right.
[00:19:35]  It's just fun.
[00:19:36]  But that's why it's so funny.
[00:19:37]  It's, I mean, it's literal gaslighting.
[00:19:39]  Yeah.
[00:19:40]  But like the Nazi thing was actually like a good thing because it took the spotlight off of that whole scandal, which is like an international scandal.
[00:19:46]  I don't quite follow what's going on.
[00:19:48]  Okay, so that's why there's these Khalistanis, which this is as far as I understand.
[00:19:52]  Can you simplify a problem with the one?
[00:19:55]  There's different shades of brown.
[00:19:56]  Right.
[00:19:57]  One of the shades, darker, is causing problems.
[00:20:00]  And anyways, they just killed one, and that's the whole thing.
[00:20:03]  But Trudeau, basically, what happened was this guy got killed, right?
[00:20:07]  But he's been cozying up to these people that the Indian government is like, those are terrorists.
[00:20:11]  Trudeau's like, those are good men, kind of thing, right?
[00:20:14]  And then it becomes just whatever.
[00:20:16]  That just depends on your politics.
[00:20:19]  This guy gets killed.
[00:20:20]  There's like...
[00:20:21]  Rumors basically being like, oh, the Indian government did it because they're enemies.
[00:20:25]  Indian government's like had nothing to do with it.
[00:20:27]  Trudeau's basically saying the Indian government's got to repent for this.
[00:20:30]  Hey, UN, everyone.
[00:20:32]  Come on, boys, let's kick India out.
[00:20:33]  And everyone's like, are you out of your mind?
[00:20:35]  Like, you're kind of on your own.
[00:20:37]  We think you're taking your side against.
[00:20:39]  He has no Protein government.
[00:20:40]  So it just becomes this.
[00:20:42]  So everyone laughing at Canada for being so retarded that they clapped for a Nazi was a win for Canada.
[00:20:47]  Yeah.
[00:20:49]  What a take the heat off of this thing.
[00:20:52]  Dude, the big story is you're in trouble for honoring a Nazi.
[00:20:54]  And Trudeau goes, all right.
[00:20:57]  Yeah.
[00:20:57]  Thank God.
[00:20:58]  But you could just easily see how this could happen.
[00:21:01]  When you start kind of seeing things through those prisms, like you could easily see like AOC, you know, cozying up to some guy that you're like, yo, that's like the head of the bloods.
[00:21:11]  Like, you know what I mean?
[00:21:12]  Like, imagine the Mexican government went and killed an American citizen and they're like, that guy's like involved in some sort of like cartel thing.
[00:21:18]  And you're like, yeah, you can't do that, though.
[00:21:20]  You can't just go kill him on American soil.
[00:21:21]  Right.
[00:21:22]  Right.
[00:21:22]  Like, it's like sovereign nation.
[00:21:24]  Wasn't it you, Danny, who said the thing about the way they were talking about the trucker protests versus the way they're talking about Ukraine with the Nazis?
[00:21:31]  Oh, yeah, of course.
[00:21:32]  Yeah.
[00:21:32]  It was like, well, that was the whole thing.
[00:21:34]  That's why the Nazi thing was such a big deal.
[00:21:36]  Not big deal, but like why they got it so hard is because they were calling everybody Nazis forever.
[00:21:40]  It's something like a simulation we're living in.
[00:21:45]  It's almost like you're just like, dude, like you're, this is too much.
[00:21:47]  It's just too much that the guy who went out saying, hey, this was basically your point, right?
[00:21:52]  They said their point about the trucker protest was like, if there's one Nazi flag there, then the whole thing is Nazi.
[00:21:58]  And also we have to fund Ukraine till the end of time.
[00:22:02]  And then you're like, but hold on.
[00:22:04]  Yeah, there's a rule.
[00:22:06]  So now they're like, well, you know, we had one Nazi, but that's just like an honest mistake.
[00:22:09]  And you're like, well, no, by your rules, you're all a bunch of fucking Nazis.
[00:22:12]  Yeah, but the Nazi at the trucker, the guys, the Nazis that showed up at the trucker weren't the guests of honor.
[00:22:16]  Yeah.
[00:22:17]  Yeah.
[00:22:17]  They probably worked for the liberal government.
[00:22:19]  Dude, there was a moment when fuck.
[00:22:22]  Oh, God damn it.
[00:22:23]  I'm blanking on her name.
[00:22:24]  She debated Scott Horton at Porkfest.
[00:22:28]  She used to write for Reason magazine and stuff.
[00:22:30]  Kathy Young.
[00:22:31]  So Kathy Young is like the worst.
[00:22:34]  She's just like, you know, she's like kind of in a libertarian world, but she's like the one who's like, you know, the libertarian case for funding Ukraine.
[00:22:42]  The libertarian case for slavery or whatever the fuck her thing is.
[00:22:45]  But so she's debating Scott Horton, who if you don't know, is just you do not want to debate on foreign policy.
[00:22:52]  Like he's smarter than everybody.
[00:22:54]  He knows more than everybody.
[00:22:56]  And he's also kind of vicious.
[00:22:57]  So like you just don't want.
[00:22:58]  But so he just destroyed her.
[00:23:00]  It was an Oxford style debate and I've never seen a more...
[00:23:03]  Like, I think she got one vote at the end of it.
[00:23:05]  It was like insane.
[00:23:06]  Who was that person?
[00:23:07]  Yeah, I think it was her husband.
[00:23:08]  Yeah.
[00:23:09]  I'm pretty sure.
[00:23:10]  But so there's this one point.
[00:23:11]  Now she is like a real like would call everyone out for being a Nazi, you know, in America type thing.
[00:23:18]  Trump's a Nazi.
[00:23:19]  All these guys are Nazis.
[00:23:20]  And then Scott at one point goes to her.
[00:23:21]  There was a question and answer segment.
[00:23:23]  And so I would ask her about the Azov battalion.
[00:23:25]  And she goes, well, she goes, I don't want to talk about the Azov Battalion right now.
[00:23:29]  That would require a whole nother debate.
[00:23:30]  But the point is, and Scott goes, of course you don't.
[00:23:36]  And he goes, let me ask you one question.
[00:23:38]  On a scale of one to 10, how much do they love Adolf Hitler?
[00:23:43]  And she just goes, well, and he goes, 10.
[00:23:46]  And it was just the greatest moment.
[00:23:48]  Swear to God, this chick who's been like calling every right-wing group of Nazis, she goes, Well, the founder, yes, was a Nazi, but they've done a lot to move in the other direction.
[00:24:00]  And you're like, Yo, you will actually like a fleet of corporate restructuring.
[00:24:04]  Like, you're talking about a motorcycle club.
[00:24:08]  It's literally a fleet of swastika tattooed killers.
[00:24:12]  And she's going like, some of them do.
[00:24:15]  So, like, the excuses you'll make for them.
[00:24:17]  Yeah.
[00:24:17]  But then, like, if Donald Trump are only failing to fit in, yeah, if there's one flag at a fucking rally, that taints the entire thing.
[00:24:27]  And they did, like, one of the MPs from actually my hometown, like, basically the next day, just like stood up, and then they have, there's like a vote that they can do where they can strike the whole thing like it never happened, but they need unanimous every single person from every party needs to vote yes.
[00:24:42]  So she strike it like it didn't happen.
[00:24:45]  Karina Gould, then she stood up and she like works with the liberals and she stood up.
[00:24:48]  She's like, you know, there's like this mistake happened and like, I don't know what it's called, like the whatever process, but basically like it's stricken from the written record.
[00:24:55]  Like it's like memory hold.
[00:24:57]  Like it's never happened.
[00:24:59]  Yeah, but they all have to unanimously vote on it, right?
[00:25:02]  And like literally.
[00:25:03]  We all agree that it never happened.
[00:25:04]  Never ever.
[00:25:05]  And then she's like, the next motion, me fucking this fat chick last night.
[00:25:09]  We all agree.
[00:25:10]  That did not happen.
[00:25:12]  But she literally tried to pull it because she goes, like, you know, this is like a mistake and everybody's like, yay, nay.
[00:25:17]  And they're like, all right, well, good luck.
[00:25:20]  I'll tell you, I'm a, I'm pretty hip to like how fucked up the war party is, but I will say, I've actually, I was surprised in the war in Ukraine how much the Israelis and the neocons didn't even give a shit.
[00:25:35]  Yeah.
[00:25:35]  Like I thought they would at least have a little bit of a shit.
[00:25:39]  Yeah, you just do a tweet for looks.
[00:25:41]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:25:41]  Like, but I've been even inside.
[00:25:43]  I thought you would kind of, like, you don't want to work with them, right?
[00:25:45]  But anyway, that is, it's in.
[00:25:47]  I just love the story because it just like brings up the Ukrainian Nazi problem again, which everyone wants to pretend.
[00:25:52]  And then like the counter response to it is always like when I debated that guy, Constantine Constantin, about the trigonometry guy.
[00:26:00]  Yeah, the trigonometry guy.
[00:26:01]  And like he, which the debate was almost like, it was kind of, I was a little caught off guard on how, because he conceded so much.
[00:26:09]  Like he conceded, he was like, I don't care if America funds it.
[00:26:13]  That's up to you guys.
[00:26:14]  That's your problem.
[00:26:15]  Like you have a right to vote on whether you do that or not.
[00:26:18]  And then he was like, and sure, maybe they'll have to give up some territory.
[00:26:21]  And he was like, yes, the Americans did provoke the Russians into doing it.
[00:26:25]  But, you know, and then I was like, well, once you concede all that, okay, I don't care.
[00:26:28]  I got to close it.
[00:26:29]  I don't care about the vote anymore.
[00:26:30]  If you concede that, then fine.
[00:26:32]  But he did, at one point, he goes, like, you know, like, people are, people are making it like it's a Nazi country, which is like totally unfair.
[00:26:39]  Like, everybody's a Nazi.
[00:26:40]  And you're like, yeah, all right, fine.
[00:26:42]  But like, there's a whole bunch of them.
[00:26:44]  I mean, like, I'm, yeah.
[00:26:47]  My parents are from Ukraine and they're like Jewish.
[00:26:49]  And my mom was like, when she saw that, she's like, yeah, what the fuck did you think that guy did?
[00:26:53]  My mom was literally like, what did they think he was doing?
[00:26:55]  But that's what I love about it is just showcasing government ineptitude.
[00:26:59]  Then not one person on the staff could go, wait a second.
[00:27:03]  And the whole room is just up there.
[00:27:06]  Yeah.
[00:27:06]  And they're like, I started reading his thing.
[00:27:10]  Right.
[00:27:10]  And they go, he heroically fought for Ukrainian independence against Stalin in World War II.
[00:27:18]  And someone would go, wait a minute.
[00:27:23]  I've been a while since I brushed up on World War II, but I'm pretty sure the other side was, what's his name?
[00:27:29]  And then they were like, and then our first year, they were like, well, you know, at the time, like people in his position, they were like forced basically to like join up to do that.
[00:27:38]  And then they're like, oh, turns out he was volunteer.
[00:27:42]  This guy was actually it.
[00:27:44]  Originally, they were trying to like just white watching.
[00:27:46]  Like, you know, yeah, I suppose people, they kill your family.
[00:27:49]  He joined in 1922.
[00:27:51]  He was waiting.
[00:27:53]  There was some record of him saying that those two years, 41 to 43, were the best years of his life.
[00:27:58]  Yeah.
[00:27:59]  Well, I was joking.
[00:28:00]  I said this joke.
[00:28:03]  I didn't even know the volunteer part.
[00:28:04]  That's so funny.
[00:28:06]  Yeah, yeah, he's volunteered.
[00:28:07]  I said this joke on the live pod yesterday that I love his confidence that he showed up going, finally, they realized the Fuhrer was right.
[00:28:16]  It was his son or something.
[00:28:18]  He probably couldn't say shit because his son went and set this whole thing up.
[00:28:22]  And then they're like, they're going to honor you.
[00:28:24]  And he's probably just like, all right.
[00:28:26]  Do you think Hitler right now is in Mexico and they're going to be about to give him medal?
[00:28:29]  And he goes, ah, wait a second.
[00:28:32]  I think you guys might be joking right now.
[00:28:35]  Yeah, I'd be pretty suspicious if they're like a big award for you.
[00:28:40]  That's Gene Epstein's favorite joke joke, which I love a good joke book joke.
[00:28:45]  But it goes, the Germans go and find Hitler in Argentina and they come to him and they go, listen, mine Fuhrer, you have to come back and retake over Germany and be the leader again.
[00:28:57]  We need your direction.
[00:28:58]  And finally, after persuading him, Hitler goes, all right, but no more, Mr. Nice Guy.
[00:29:05]  That's just a great joke.
[00:29:06]  That is such a great joke.
[00:29:08]  Schwarzenegger's dad was a Nazi, actually.
[00:29:10]  Yeah.
[00:29:11]  Yeah, he was a Nazi.
[00:29:13]  He's pretty good.
[00:29:13]  It's interesting the way that he talks about all that stuff because he's pretty good at grazing over stuff because he's just, he's so like a focused kind of guy.
[00:29:21]  But he's like, in his, in his movie, he does all these documentaries and in them, he's very like, you know, and it does suck.
[00:29:28]  Like, you know, everyone in the town was obviously very demoralized because we lost the war.
[00:29:33]  But he keeps like, he just says it like that.
[00:29:35]  You know what I mean?
[00:29:36]  Well, it's a crazy thing.
[00:29:37]  This is such a fucking wild thing, the denazification, like, like, period in Germany, the post-World War II period, where it's like, think about how wild it would be because we never lived through anything like that.
[00:29:48]  But imagine like how your whole town is just totally into this fucking thing, and everyone's on board with the program.
[00:29:56]  Second comedy with justice.
[00:29:59]  You go, wait, Louis E.K.'s bad now?
[00:30:02]  What happened?
[00:30:02]  We were all just singing his best.
[00:30:03]  You know what?
[00:30:04]  I have lived through something just like that.
[00:30:05]  It was Louis E.K. Everyone was trying to be friends with him.
[00:30:08]  And then they were like, he's a rapist or whatever.
[00:30:10]  But then you get the shit bombed out of you.
[00:30:13]  And then they actually gaze off battalion of comedy.
[00:30:18]  Checks out.
[00:30:19]  Like, we don't represent the majority of the game.
[00:30:21]  Let's do it over there, though.
[00:30:21]  But we're the fiercest fighting force for sure.
[00:30:25]  We're on the front lines.
[00:30:26]  I'll tell you that much.
[00:30:27]  But like, so there's, because the term, because like World War II is the biggest war in history.
[00:30:35]  And so the biggest losers in history are the Nazis.
[00:30:37]  And they also fucking committed genocide and shit.
[00:30:39]  So they become the definition of evil.
[00:30:43]  You know what I mean?
[00:30:44]  So if you're going to be like using political propaganda, you're going to call your opponent a Nazi.
[00:30:48]  That's what I'm saying.
[00:30:50]  Yes.
[00:30:50]  Yes.
[00:30:51]  They are the carrot tops of the comedy world.
[00:30:53]  They fucked up the most.
[00:30:55]  And both of them, unfairly.
[00:30:57]  Because if you actually watch them, they had some shit to say.
[00:31:00]  They had some stuff.
[00:31:00]  That saw thing was great.
[00:31:02]  Seesaw, eyes on a saw, whatever.
[00:31:04]  You guys suck.
[00:31:05]  But so then, right?
[00:31:07]  Like, you see, all these like politicians like use it.
[00:31:09]  Like, oh, you're Nazis.
[00:31:11]  But the real story is like, yo, there was like this huge chunk of Europe.
[00:31:15]  I think the majority of Europe was under Nazi control at one point.
[00:31:18]  And then the war happens and it's all just like, this is basically outlawed.
[00:31:22]  In some cases, like literally.
[00:31:24]  You weren't allowed to say, like, I still side with the Nazis or you go to jail.
[00:31:27]  And then it's kind of like you have to pretend there's no one who's like really lingering with those feelings.
[00:31:33]  But then it's like, but also what really happened with the top-level Nazis is that they all got fucking incorporated into the America or Canada.
[00:31:40]  Like they didn't really give a shit.
[00:31:42]  They wanted to fucking use them and bring them into NASA in Canada.
[00:31:45]  I didn't even realize that I brought in.
[00:31:47]  And so many of the same people.
[00:31:48]  Some of them show up in my meetings.
[00:31:51]  But the same politicians who will fund actual Nazis or incorporate actual Nazis will still kind of use it as a like, this guy's a Nazi.
[00:32:01]  I'm outraged.
[00:32:02]  And you're like, I see what's going on here, man.
[00:32:05]  This is some fucked up shit.
[00:32:06]  They don't give a fuck about like Nazism.
[00:32:09]  No, they care about winning.
[00:32:10]  That's it.
[00:32:11]  I didn't even know this, too.
[00:32:12]  Like, so they brought in so many Nazis into Canada.
[00:32:14]  Like, where did you see the thing that Max Blumenthal posted to you from 60 Minutes?
[00:32:18]  Yeah.
[00:32:19]  Where like this American came up to Canada to find all these Nazis and like they're like, how did you find them?
[00:32:23]  And he's like, the phone book.
[00:32:26]  Yeah.
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[00:33:31]  Dude, what Max Blumenthal?

=== Red Pill Dating Dynamics (15:14) ===

[00:33:34]  I don't, dude, I think his story is really interesting.
[00:33:38]  I'm pretty sure, maybe I'm getting this wrong.
[00:33:40]  Double check me on it.
[00:33:41]  But I think his thing was that he was like kind of a standard like journalist and he's Jewish.
[00:33:46]  So he was like way on team like Israel.
[00:33:48]  And he went over there to make a documentary about Israel.
[00:33:52]  And he's just like talking to all the local Israelis.
[00:33:54]  And they're all like, the Palestinians are dogs and they deserve no rights.
[00:33:58]  And he's like, heard it enough times.
[00:34:00]  Heard it back.
[00:34:01]  Heard it enough times for people that he's like, I got to look into this a little more.
[00:34:06]  And then he's like, was totally fucking red-pilled.
[00:34:08]  I'm like, how fucked up it is?
[00:34:10]  And then he's just been a real journalist ever since.
[00:34:12]  I think so.
[00:34:13]  Yeah, he's a fucking interesting guy.
[00:34:14]  Yeah, I got to get him on the show sometime.
[00:34:16]  Yeah, he's cool.
[00:34:17]  I think I fucking, I have, you know, I'm one degree of separation away from him, as all Jews are.
[00:34:23]  He did stand-up recently.
[00:34:25]  Really?
[00:34:25]  Yeah, he's doing stand-up right now.
[00:34:27]  He was, we did this show at the Williams Center.
[00:34:29]  Oh, really?
[00:34:30]  And yeah, he was there.
[00:34:32]  Oh, that's cool.
[00:34:34]  He's real.
[00:34:35]  But anyways, yeah, the show with the Nazis in Canada, like that they have.
[00:34:38]  But Pierre Trudeau, they brought it up because Pierre Trudeau was like predator for 15 years and then they brought it up to him.
[00:34:43]  They're like, hey, there's like all these Nazis.
[00:34:46]  Like we know where they are and stuff.
[00:34:49]  And people were like, we should kick them out.
[00:34:51]  And he straight up was like, you know what?
[00:34:53]  We shouldn't kick them out.
[00:34:54]  Like, I don't want to inflame tensions.
[00:34:56]  Canada's about acceptance.
[00:34:59]  But that's the same thing that to go back to the thing.
[00:35:01]  That is the same thing that's happening with the alleged terrorists.
[00:35:05]  Because there's a lot of people that are that.
[00:35:07]  Everyone's going to be a lot of people.
[00:35:07]  This guy tried to get a whole country four times and they're just.
[00:35:09]  Well, that alleged terrorist guy, though, it sounds like he worked for the Canadian government because he had like, this dude was into Canada at one point on forged documents asking for citizenship.
[00:35:23]  They denied him.
[00:35:24]  Then he did a fake or a marriage for citizenship.
[00:35:27]  They denied that as well.
[00:35:29]  Then there's just this like period of time that's unaccounted for and then he was just a citizen.
[00:35:33]  Yeah, there's it's like Lee Harvey Oswald.
[00:35:35]  You know, there's a.
[00:35:36]  So he, in like the height of the Cold War, just went over to Russia and they like put him up there for a bunch and then he just came back to America and was like here and you're like the yeah, no one asked any questions.
[00:35:48]  That was like that was totally just cool to do and then he ended up murdering the president.
[00:35:53]  You know like whatever, but that's what.
[00:35:55]  Yeah, don't look into this anymore.
[00:35:56]  You know, you're like.
[00:35:57]  It seems like something more was going on there with that.
[00:36:00]  What else?
[00:36:00]  What else did we want to talk about banning podcasts in Canada?
[00:36:02]  I don't know if you saw that.
[00:36:03]  Oh, are they not banning podcasts?
[00:36:05]  That's a little uh dramatic, but they're like, but they're like.
[00:36:08]  So Canada, like is very like strict uh, because we're worried about losing whatever culture we have or whatever.
[00:36:14]  So they're now like regulating podcasts, where all podcast uh services have to that make revenue I think revenue of more than 10 million a year have to basically register with the government.
[00:36:26]  Wow, so at a certain, at a certain level so, but that means like Spotify, like pretty much like anything like all.
[00:36:32]  Yeah, but then will the Canadian government force them to remove programming?
[00:36:36]  This is how it works.
[00:36:37]  It's like a it's.
[00:36:39]  It's basically like anything, if you want, you know control, you need it everywhere right, right.
[00:36:43]  So what they do is they go to get this to be able to be pushed in the algorithm, do all this stuff.
[00:36:50]  You need to be registered as Canadian content.
[00:36:52]  Lo and behold.
[00:36:53]  Guess what Canadian content means.
[00:36:55]  Right to get your badge as Canadian content.
[00:36:58]  You can probably ask certain amount of this, certain amount of that, you know yeah, and like they had the bill C11, like I was back in Canada recently and if you try and go read the news on facebook or instagram, it's just blocked.
[00:37:11]  Like all news on facebook and instagram is blocked because they tried to make Facebook pay to basically just allow links and Facebook's like we're not paying for it.
[00:37:21]  So it's basically picking all these battles that you can't win, that they're all the same thing.
[00:37:26]  It's just being like going to Facebook and being like, if you want to be in our town, you got to do this.
[00:37:30]  And they're just like okay, we won't be in your town.
[00:37:33]  And he's like oh uh, all right, I guess we just won't have news.
[00:37:38]  But I guess that works in a way for them.
[00:37:41]  Yeah, but that kind of works in a way for them, because then it's like, okay, so there's no news.
[00:37:44]  Well, that's the conspiratorial angle, but that's there.
[00:37:48]  Is that conspiratorial?
[00:37:49]  That's more like convenient, but I don't, I don't believe that.
[00:37:52]  Uh, these people, that is the plan.
[00:37:55]  Maybe in that specific, in that specific instance, I feel like it seems at times that Canada is almost like the laboratory, you know, like that America is kind of like hey, you take this a few steps further and then see, see what, like the comedy uh any, any sort of thing, whenever you take the smaller version of it, they're always more extreme right, so America has all this like, America seems somewhat more extreme, but it actually it's pretty level.
[00:38:21]  At the same way that New York is gonna be less extreme than uh, Portland or whatever right, and the reason, I mean, there's a million reasons for that, but one of them is that, like they don't have anywhere to go right, so if you, if your comedy scene is 500 people and this group like all hates you, you're kind of out of the club right right, but it's things like um, there's no uh, alternative tech in those industries right right well, but think Think, like even the,
[00:38:48]  was it C16 that Jordan Peterson got famous for?
[00:38:53]  That was like the compelling speech.
[00:38:56]  Things like, I mean, seizing bank accounts during the trucker protests and shit like that.
[00:39:00]  There are things like that that you go like, you are taking it a step further than we are in at least those departments anywhere.
[00:39:06]  It's like, yeah, I mean, like, we're like flirting with shit like that, but we're not really doing it like on the level that.
[00:39:11]  But it really is.
[00:39:12]  A part of it is that it's all like lip service in America because you can't, like, American politicians can say way wilder shit that they like.
[00:39:20]  You can't do that, though.
[00:39:21]  Like, how many, like, any politician that's like super radical can come out and be like, and I'm going to do this.
[00:39:26]  And everyone's like, I mean, good luck.
[00:39:28]  Like, you know what I mean?
[00:39:29]  And then the other countries are like, oh, we're doing that.
[00:39:31]  And then they actually can do it.
[00:39:33]  Yeah.
[00:39:33]  No, there's definitely something.
[00:39:34]  The same thing in the UK is a little bit of that, but like, you know, smaller countries that they take this shit way farther because they're able to.
[00:39:40]  And they all, but there's not like such a opposition to it.
[00:39:43]  And look, I mean, I'm not saying they're not without their flaws.
[00:39:47]  And probably we wouldn't have gotten in seven wars over the last 20 years if right-wing Americans weren't so fucking gung-ho about it.
[00:39:54]  But there is something about right-wing Americans that I think are like the hedge against a lot of that shit.
[00:39:59]  Just having two sides, period.
[00:40:00]  But specifically the right-wing Republicans.
[00:40:03]  Like, there's, I feel like you just don't have that in Canada.
[00:40:06]  You don't have that.
[00:40:07]  That's the reason why, like, you're not going to round up guns.
[00:40:10]  You're not going to be able to do a lot of this shit because we just have enough of these redneck motherfuckers who are like, nope, not happening here.
[00:40:17]  And like, I do, I personally, my suspicion to get a little conspiratorial is that that's why I think they are so made out to be the villain.
[00:40:26]  I guess that's not the thing.
[00:40:26]  So much of it, other countries don't really, like, even though I'm thinking like Australia, like, you know, not like.
[00:40:31]  There's a very specific American culture.
[00:40:33]  Yeah.
[00:40:34]  There's this weird.
[00:40:35]  Now, don't get me wrong.
[00:40:36]  They fuck up a lot because it'll be like, you know, they're like, don't tread on me.
[00:40:40]  And they're like, we're drafting your boy to fight a stupid war.
[00:40:42]  And they're like, get out there, son.
[00:40:44]  But there is something where they at least have like a line of trying to defend against whatever the latest globalist fucking fad is.
[00:40:55]  Yeah, and some of them are just, you know, anti establishment by nature, even no matter what, right?
[00:41:02]  Yes, I think so.
[00:41:03]  But yeah, it's kind of, there's also like a craziness to it, too.
[00:41:06]  And it's like a unified craziness where, you know, it's the guy you fight that you're like, you know, I might win, but this guy's crazy.
[00:41:15]  You know what I mean?
[00:41:16]  There's this, they rate, like that collectivized group is, you go, oh, we'll try to take the guns and stuff.
[00:41:21]  It's like, we could probably get him, but like, it's actually going to be pretty messy.
[00:41:25]  Oh, yeah, sure.
[00:41:26]  Canada, they're like, Uvaldi happened.
[00:41:28]  And then the next day, Trudeau's like, we're banning like 1,500 types of guns or something.
[00:41:32]  You're like, didn't even happen in your fucking country.
[00:41:34]  It's like, nothing happened in your country.
[00:41:36]  You're just like, it's the country adjacent.
[00:41:38]  And the whole lesson of it was that cops are horrible.
[00:41:41]  It wasn't even like a thing.
[00:41:42]  That didn't even come out at that point because it was the next day.
[00:41:44]  They didn't even really know yet.
[00:41:46]  And literally the next day, he's just like, all right, passing some law.
[00:41:49]  Is Trudeau popular in Canada?
[00:41:51]  Like, will he know?
[00:41:52]  He must have like a 10% approval rating.
[00:41:55]  But because he has a deal with the other liberal party, so they basically have a deal that they're just to allow him to stay in power.
[00:42:02]  And then he, there's not an election for like, he doesn't have to call an election for like two years.
[00:42:06]  You know what would be, you know, there's kind of the Andrew Tate type guys that would be like, you go and fuck, you make your girl do this.
[00:42:12]  And like, you know, she has better have dinner on the table.
[00:42:15]  It's like your buddy, America's like the one that kind of says that shit, but don't do that much of it.
[00:42:19]  And then Can is the guy that like listens to it and comes home.
[00:42:22]  He's like, hey, bitch.
[00:42:27]  You just take it very literally.
[00:42:30]  America's the one guy saying that who's like, yeah, it's for the algorithm.
[00:42:33]  I'm making a lot of money doing this.
[00:42:35]  Why are you drawing on my forehead?
[00:42:36]  He's like, it's your body count.
[00:42:39]  Yeah, yeah, Can is the one coming.
[00:42:41]  All the other countries come home and they do all this stuff.
[00:42:44]  Dude, I don't feel like.
[00:42:45]  We were just kind of talking shit at the bar.
[00:42:46]  I don't actually fucking say that to my wife.
[00:42:49]  By the way, speaking of that shit, I'm not a big fan of the, what are they, the like manosphere shit.
[00:42:56]  And I don't like that they took our term red pills.
[00:42:58]  We were using that.
[00:42:59]  There's a lot of different red pills now.
[00:43:01]  We were fucking red-pilled before.
[00:43:02]  That was about.
[00:43:03]  This red pill is real rapey.
[00:43:05]  Really?
[00:43:06]  This is a red pill?
[00:43:06]  This is a dick pill.
[00:43:08]  That's not a red pill.
[00:43:09]  But I don't really like this shit.
[00:43:10]  But it is.
[00:43:11]  I will give them credit that the reaction that they evoke from the chicks who hate it is crazy revealing.
[00:43:19]  That you're like, oh, of course.
[00:43:20]  So they do have a point.
[00:43:21]  Because it's nuts to me how much the like go-to insult is that you're an incel.
[00:43:28]  I know.
[00:43:29]  Like, that's always the response.
[00:43:31]  They're always like, oh, that's why you guys can't even get laid or blah, blah, blah.
[00:43:34]  And you're like, wait, that's your comeback to what he said.
[00:43:37]  You can't get laid.
[00:43:38]  But there are people who are objectively like, yeah, I fuck tons.
[00:43:41]  And they'll be like, you incel.
[00:43:43]  And you're like, do you not even know what it means?
[00:43:45]  One of it is part of the word.
[00:43:46]  One of them called me an insult the other day.
[00:43:48]  I go, I have two kids and I'm 40.
[00:43:51]  Yeah.
[00:43:51]  It's like, what?
[00:43:52]  Yeah.
[00:43:53]  What?
[00:43:54]  Like, you can't even have sex is like an insult at 15 years old.
[00:43:58]  That was like the insult.
[00:44:00]  You don't even fuck yet.
[00:44:01]  You know what I mean?
[00:44:01]  Like, what are you saying?
[00:44:02]  And that's your first go-to.
[00:44:04]  It's like, isn't it almost like you're almost like, well, I have pussy.
[00:44:09]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:44:10]  So you're, you're being more fucking sexist than he is.
[00:44:13]  When that started, there was some normal girls, but it's like, over the last six years, all the girls telling you, like, you wouldn't get this pussy all got pretty fat and gross.
[00:44:21]  So it became the thing of being like, they can keep their pussies now.
[00:44:25]  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[00:44:26]  Can't find them.
[00:44:28]  I mean, I guess I am, I'm removed from it.
[00:44:30]  Because like, I'm, I'm 40 and I'm married.
[00:44:32]  So I'm not like, you know, I don't know exactly what it's like to be 20 and be like dating, you know, like I'm sure it's different than it was when I was 20.
[00:44:41]  But it does seem like the Manosphere red-pilled people are like taking a biased sample.
[00:44:46]  Like they'll just sit around a table of like Miami club whores and be like, not a thought amongst them.
[00:44:50]  Not a single thought.
[00:44:52]  Women, am I right?
[00:44:53]  You're kind of like, I think there's a wider spectrum.
[00:44:56]  Fair just kind of figured out that that was good content.
[00:44:58]  And all the girls are like, wait, why are we here?
[00:45:00]  And you're like, you'll get your money on the way.
[00:45:02]  But it's like...
[00:45:03]  Tell us what you think about Ukraine.
[00:45:04]  And they're like, but isn't it?
[00:45:05]  It's all like shit that I like figured out when I was 16 that they're saying is like some brilliant point.
[00:45:10]  Like they're like, guys don't like whores.
[00:45:14]  Sure, they'll fuck them, but they don't want to marry them.
[00:45:16]  And you're like, no, there's always.
[00:45:19]  We all knew that.
[00:45:20]  A lot of it does start with just like a universal truth.
[00:45:23]  Even like the kind of the and I think there's two sides of the man.
[00:45:27]  There's like kind of the dating part of it.
[00:45:29]  And then there's the sort of men's rights sort of part of it.
[00:45:32]  Right, right.
[00:45:32]  And the first part, like the, hey, no one's coming to save you.
[00:45:35]  You need to do it on yourself.
[00:45:36]  It's like, so people do need to hear that.
[00:45:37]  And then there's, you probably had a buddy that, you know, maybe was like not good with girls.
[00:45:41]  And it's like, maybe that guy does need to like figure out how to just go to try to like tear through 10 like fours.
[00:45:46]  But then what's next?
[00:45:47]  I don't think it maybe has always a ton of off like most people in the most people have a girlfriend that they watch TV at with night.
[00:45:55]  And that's like most people, most people's lives.
[00:45:57]  So it doesn't have much to offer about what happens next.
[00:46:00]  Right.
[00:46:00]  It's kind of very like geared towards how to get in the game.
[00:46:05]  Yeah.
[00:46:05]  I'm sure there's some of that that like I'd agree with where it's like, oh, you know, anything that's like get your shit together.
[00:46:10]  You know what I mean?
[00:46:11]  Like go to the gym or be more impressive.
[00:46:14]  I like his slogan of fuck some fours.
[00:46:16]  Well, Rob, you've done that now.
[00:46:18]  And why crime is that?
[00:46:20]  I'm still working.
[00:46:22]  You've been at that level for years, Rob.
[00:46:24]  You said you got to get to 10.
[00:46:25]  I'm only at eight and a half or whatever, right?
[00:46:28]  But then the other part of it, the, I mean, I think a lot of the thing that got people into the other side of it, a lot of people that get out is like the divorce laws and all that sort of stuff.
[00:46:38]  And it was or the suit, like male suicide.
[00:46:40]  But so to kind of, you can't even say it.
[00:46:43]  I don't know if you saw this clip happen like on BBC.
[00:46:45]  It was just such a funny clip when you say how revealing it is.
[00:46:48]  That's why I was just saying that.
[00:46:49]  The basically this guy who's like, I think he's a comic there.
[00:46:52]  He wrote this book about funny things that are men's problems, like how to deal with them.
[00:46:56]  And one's like the suicide rate.
[00:46:58]  And they were talking on a thing, and there's like three girls there.
[00:47:00]  And they're just like, they couldn't even admit that it was a problem.
[00:47:04]  They had to be like, well, what about sexism?
[00:47:06]  And he was like, yeah, I'm just saying there's a separate thing that, you know, men are committing suicide and maybe I have some.
[00:47:11]  And he goes, well, the reason for he's like, women work like they make less money.
[00:47:16]  And then it was not possible for one of these women to just even say that there was one thing that that's, oh, that's maybe tough to be a man.
[00:47:25]  And it was just like, it was just a very such a cops of like and you go, are you trying to get in?
[00:47:31]  Are you trying to get ants?
[00:47:32]  Is that how you get ants?
[00:47:33]  That's are you trying to get more red pill guys?
[00:47:34]  Is that how you get my red pill guys?
[00:47:35]  Well, there's no question there's a whole lot of truth to that.
[00:47:38]  And there's like an insane double standard of like not just feminism, but just like kind of the modern status quo, where you really will, what's what's the dominant like lens to look back at, say, like 1942, if you were to say men and women would be like, women didn't have the rights that they have today back then.
[00:48:00]  Like women were oppressed, women were in the kitchen.
[00:48:02]  And you're like, the menu is a given.
[00:48:03]  The men were drafted to fight in a war.
[00:48:07]  Like they were enslaved and sent to the biggest murder fest.
[00:48:11]  Dude, they had to do this.
[00:48:12]  They just round up Jews.
[00:48:15]  You have and waiting 50 years to get an applause for it.
[00:48:21]  You know how hard it is to trap a Jew?
[00:48:23]  You got to get out there and round up these Jews.
[00:48:25]  These Jews were covered in oil.
[00:48:27]  No, yeah, exactly.
[00:48:29]  So there's a lot of crazy shit like that.
[00:48:31]  But I also do think that it's just like, there's always going to be a double standard about male suffering and female suffering.
[00:48:36]  But it's kind of normal and it's okay.
[00:48:39]  We care about women more.
[00:48:41]  We treat them as more delicate.
[00:48:42]  You know what I mean?
[00:48:42]  So like there's something to that.
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[00:50:31]  But we were talking about in the context of just like comedians in the green room, but whenever there's someone, and we said Nickelbacks, maybe a better example, but like they were so hated and the hate was way more than they are bad.
[00:50:43]  Right.
[00:50:44]  And eventually it turns around where, like, hating them is like just almost corny.
[00:50:49]  Yeah, someone's like, I hate Nickelback.
[00:50:51]  You're like, you're just jumping on the thing, dude.
[00:50:54]  You know, I don't know this photograph.
[00:50:57]  Nickelback sucks, dude.
[00:50:59]  But that happens a lot.
[00:50:59]  No, he's not even saying you should, like, they're great.
[00:51:01]  He's just saying the thing was almost to share them so much.
[00:51:05]  It's a buddy.
[00:51:06]  If you have a buddy that you go, this guy's all right.
[00:51:08]  And someone's like, he's the funniest best guy ever before.
[00:51:11]  And you know what?
[00:51:11]  You're kind of like, he's not good for this reason.
[00:51:13]  Yeah.
[00:51:14]  So whenever the just the market's off, you know, yeah, there's always like there's always like an overcorrection.
[00:51:20]  Well, it's kind of the nickelback wrong.
[00:51:22]  If it's wrong, I saw it in McCarran Park in Williamsburg.
[00:51:25]  Literal like hipsters were blasting Nickelback December.
[00:51:29]  Because that's how far it's come back.
[00:51:30]  Do you think that that's going to be like in five years, McCarran Barges hipsters blasting Andrew Tate right now?
[00:51:37]  The one as a kid, the one I remember the most was it was Vanilla Ice.
[00:51:43]  Yeah.
[00:51:44]  That I remember I was young enough that I remember the time when he wasn't a joke.
[00:51:49]  He was the number one fucking video.
[00:51:51]  That was the first thing I ever huge star.
[00:51:53]  The first tape I ever bought in.
[00:51:54]  Yeah, like whatever age.
[00:51:56]  I mean, I was young.
[00:51:56]  I must have been like six or seven or something like that.
[00:51:58]  But my stepfather had MTV.
[00:52:02]  Yeah.
[00:52:02]  And we didn't have cable, but he did.
[00:52:04]  So we'd watch MTV all the time.
[00:52:05]  And it was like fucking vanilla ice was the shit.
[00:52:07]  And then it just became whatever happened.
[00:52:09]  It's almost like there's this crowd of people cheering.
[00:52:11]  And then one guy went, this is corny as shit.
[00:52:14]  And then everyone else went, this is corny as shit.
[00:52:17]  But then it almost, vanilla ice became literally just a punchline for years.
[00:52:22]  And then there was a certain point.
[00:52:23]  I don't know when it was like, you know, when I was like, I don't know, 30 or something like that.
[00:52:28]  Where like, if Ice Ice Baby came on, you were like, oh, yeah.
[00:52:30]  Yeah, Ice Ice Baby.
[00:52:32]  That was fucking great, dude.
[00:52:33]  It's like, I don't know.
[00:52:34]  It owns a time period.
[00:52:35]  And it's a fucking, it's a catchy pop song or whatever, you know?
[00:52:39]  But yeah, there's been a few of those.
[00:52:41]  Yeah, like Snow, Informer.
[00:52:42]  Oh, yeah, dude.
[00:52:43]  I had that tape.
[00:52:44]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:52:44]  Snow.
[00:52:45]  It actually was the movie that I was talking about that I made with Rob Ford.
[00:52:49]  This is like one of the funniest stories.
[00:52:50]  But so, you know, he has a song Informer, and so he's from Toronto, even though he sounds like he's James.
[00:52:54]  I believe the album was 12 Inches of Snow.
[00:52:57]  Which I wasn't.
[00:52:58]  As an adult, I believe is a sexual reference.
[00:53:01]  But at the time, at the time, I just thought it was a no school today.
[00:53:06]  I'll tell you that much.
[00:53:09]  Anyway, so we had this role.
[00:53:11]  It's a great title.
[00:53:13]  That's fucking awesome.
[00:53:14]  It really is.
[00:53:16]  I wonder what he's packing.
[00:53:18]  Sorry, I know he doesn't.
[00:53:19]  It's heat.
[00:53:19]  He's packing heat.
[00:53:20]  I wonder, though.
[00:53:21]  Imagine he wasn't, though.
[00:53:22]  12 Inches is a big break to start with.
[00:53:25]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:53:26]  Whatever you come up with.
[00:53:27]  I mean, it's not literally.
[00:53:28]  It's my album.
[00:53:28]  It's not literal.
[00:53:30]  But we're here.
[00:53:32]  You're already in my hotel room.
[00:53:34]  But anyway, so we wanted him to have a part in the movie because the production company, like, they knew him because they worked with him on this other thing.
[00:53:41]  And then literally, like, the person is like a dude who ends up ratting on the mayor of Toronto for Smoking Crack.
[00:53:48]  And then he's just like, can't do it.
[00:53:51]  Because he's like, I'm not a snitch.
[00:53:53]  He's like, my whole song, my main song is about not being a snitch.
[00:53:56]  You're like, that was like 30 years ago.
[00:53:58]  But if I become an informer now, the history books will reflect.
[00:54:07]  Yeah, that's why it's kind of funny.
[00:54:08]  And then also, you're not doing it for real.
[00:54:10]  And they're like, they don't see it.
[00:54:12]  I must protect the integrity of my one-hit wonder status.
[00:54:16]  And then he just legit was just like, I won't do it.
[00:54:19]  Yeah, that is so funny.
[00:54:20]  Jesus Christ.
[00:54:21]  That takes me back.
[00:54:22]  What else did we want to talk about, Rob?
[00:54:25]  I think we had a few of them.
[00:54:26]  We were arguing.
[00:54:28]  Sorry, Elon.
[00:54:29]  What about Elon?
[00:54:30]  Well, oh, for Elon, I think Elon's done some wonderful things right now for free speech, and it's a win.
[00:54:39]  But sometimes I wonder if he's an evil defense contractor.
[00:54:42]  And I won't say as an absolute that he is, but the history of his tie-in, it seems to me like there's almost different divisions of the deep state.
[00:54:51]  And there's one division of the deep state that's more of the Koch brother variety.
[00:54:56]  Yeah, war hockey, and he seems to be part of that group.
[00:55:00]  And I can't say as fact.
[00:55:02]  I've never hung out with the guy.
[00:55:03]  I don't know.
[00:55:03]  Maybe he really just wants to make money and get us to Mars.
[00:55:06]  Or maybe he does make a fortune by working with the deep state and he does care about not having his daughter or other people become trans and woe.
[00:55:15]  But he does just strike me like he might be an evil defense contractor.
[00:55:19]  Yeah, well, he's definitely got, he's made some money in some ways that are like, you know, tied in.
[00:55:25]  But to me, it's guys like him and like Peter Thiel and like guys like that, it strikes me that, I mean, I don't know.
[00:55:32]  It's all just kind of speculating.
[00:55:33]  But I think they're kind of like, they're like, okay, we're going to play the game to make as much money as we can.
[00:55:39]  So whatever that means, you know what I mean?
[00:55:41]  Like getting government contracts or whatever, like whatever, we're going to fucking make crazy money.
[00:55:46]  But they are against a lot of the dominant, you know, like I think if you invite the mob into your life like that, like think about any mob movie you've ever seen.
[00:55:56]  Someone just gets involved and it's not in the worst way.
[00:55:58]  But once you're involved, when you get a call from those people, you don't get to say no.
[00:56:02]  Well, that'll be happening with like probably a Starlink at some point.
[00:56:05]  Obviously, there was this stuff with like Ukraine and where they like geo-fenced it, but that's such a like, you know, insane technology that, you know, you have to imagine, I think they work with the Department of Defense too.
[00:56:16]  But also when you talk about the type of money that Elon Musk has, which is like...
[00:56:23]  Yeah, I mean, you're talking about the guy who couldn't read your 44 bill to just pick up Twitter because he felt like it.
[00:56:29]  And Peter Thiel and guys like that.
[00:56:31]  You're talking about amongst the richest of the people they let us know about, you know, because there's richer Saudis and shit.
[00:56:36]  But like amongst the richest people we know about, it's not like you're just an independent agent who's like representing your side.
[00:56:44]  You have a whole structure, you know, of like people and support around you.
[00:56:48]  And I think you're right.
[00:56:49]  I think in a sense they are different wings of the fucking deep state, right?
[00:56:52]  But like a good example of that is, oh shit.
[00:56:57]  What's the fucking Flynn?
[00:56:59]  Okay.
[00:56:59]  So Flynn was the guy Trump put in as his national security advisor who they got on that, the NSA got out of there real quick, or the FBI and the NSA teamed up to get him out, which was all bullshit.
[00:57:09]  If you listen to the fucking tape, they're like, oh, he basically they got, he was on, he had a phone call with this one Russian guy, and he was on the phone with him to ask him for a favor for Israel.
[00:57:21]  There wasn't like any scandal to it.
[00:57:22]  You know what I mean?
[00:57:23]  It was just like fucking, if anything, it was Israeli collusion.
[00:57:26]  It wasn't Russian collusion.
[00:57:28]  But then the FBI, they fucking played him.
[00:57:33]  Yeah, they came over to him just like in like plain clothes, just like, hey, do you have like a few minutes?
[00:57:36]  You know, and like came up there and they were like, oh, did you talk to this Russian guy?
[00:57:40]  And he's like, no, I didn't talk to that Russian guy.
[00:57:42]  And then they went lying to the FBI.
[00:57:44]  Gotcha.
[00:57:44]  And fucking prosecuted him up and down for that shit.
[00:57:47]  But so he was like a five-star general.
[00:57:49]  And he was, he's all on board with lots of aspects of the program.
[00:57:55]  He's just not on board with all of it.
[00:57:57]  You know what I mean?
[00:57:58]  And so it's almost like he represents this different, like this different part of almost like he's not a neocon, but definitely still an American imperialist who's like, yeah, no, we should be running the world.
[00:58:11]  I'm just saying like we should fight this war and not these two.
[00:58:13]  So then there's a whole big split within the deep state about like which side you want to be on.
[00:58:18]  So I think they all are kind of sides of different ruling elite groups.
[00:58:23]  But then you're almost like, well, can we just get the one that's like the most stable and kills the least amount of people?
[00:58:31]  Well, also there is, if you look at the, how many people kind of say, hey, this is the goal I want and this is how we have to do it.
[00:58:39]  And then you're like, well, I agree with the goal, but I think you're wrong about this.
[00:58:42]  I think there is a lot of, and the reason why we were kind of talking about this is we sort of know people just from being in tech world and stuff like that.
[00:58:49]  We know people that are like pretty tight with him, right?
[00:58:51]  And the way that they talk about it, they're just like, he's really good at getting what he wants and blah, blah.
[00:58:57]  Like he has this perspective.
[00:58:59]  He probably doesn't agree with everyone on everything.
[00:59:00]  He has this thing he wants.
[00:59:01]  And I'm not saying there is no conspiratorial angle, but it reminds me a lot, like in our industry, like you've done Rogan a bunch.
[00:59:07]  You know, I'm like.
[00:59:08]  People have so many theories about him of like, oh, he's trying to do this.
[00:59:11]  And you'd be like, nah, dude, like that's not the way that they talk about Rogan is.
[00:59:16]  That's very much the way that they talk about him.
[00:59:18]  Be like, no, like he's, I'm telling, like, yeah, he has a big company and people have to be like, no, you're wrong about that.
[00:59:24]  He's just a, so they sort of talk about it and it seems bigger than us because obviously money's bigger.
[00:59:29]  But so that's why I was like less conspiratorial on this.
[00:59:33]  There's a great scene in, you ever see the movie Boiler Room?
[00:59:36]  Yeah, of course.
[00:59:37]  All right.
[00:59:38]  There's a great scene in Boiler Room where the boss of the whole operation comes out and he goes, we've got this new healthcare company.
[00:59:44]  I need everyone to get on the phones and push them.
[00:59:45]  What's great about this health care, it's going to help a lot of people.
[00:59:47]  So not only are we all going to get rich on this, but you can feel good about it.
[00:59:52]  That's sales in a nutshell.
[00:59:53]  Yeah, yeah.
[00:59:53]  So I'm not saying that Elon Musk is a good or bad guy, but the guys who are good at this know that they have to lie to the people around them to frame it like what we're doing is helping.
[01:00:05]  What we're doing is saving people.
[01:00:06]  I agree.
[01:00:07]  So the idea that like, I think the more the sociopaths or the more advanced players in this game, they understand those skills.
[01:00:15]  I think you can very easily hang out with these individuals and get zero read.
[01:00:19]  But I'm talking about guys that are like his, you know, friends.
[01:00:22]  But yeah, I mean, you could say that about probably any industry.
[01:00:26]  Yeah.
[01:00:27]  Yeah.
[01:00:27]  Well, human beings, basically, a lot of being a human is rationalizing your incentives.

=== Calculus of Free Speech Power (03:06) ===

[01:00:33]  You know what I mean?
[01:00:33]  So like just convincing yourself that the thing that's going to be good for you is actually the right thing.
[01:00:37]  But it is also unfortunately true.
[01:00:39]  It's just, so, you know, you have that ends justify the means conversation, right?
[01:00:43]  But like if you're talking about, hey, my goal is to like get this girl to sleep with me, right?
[01:00:49]  And you go, oh, it's going to be better if you do this, like that may be true.
[01:00:52]  So the goals are sort of you can put your own morality on each individual goal, but then it's just up to, you know, his goal.
[01:00:59]  But if you're changing, if you're saying like in between, there's all this thing, it's like, well, if he's trying to accomplish that, but it is true that when people want to pass stuff, they, if they just said it always told the truth, they probably wouldn't be able to accomplish their goals.
[01:01:12]  So then you have to just, I guess, look at the person and be like, well, is what they're accomplishing, do I at least agree with them enough that I support it or whatever?
[01:01:20]  Yeah.
[01:01:21]  Well, there's, we all kind of have to deal with shit like that.
[01:01:23]  Like, I, there's no, you always got to do it.
[01:01:25]  Not amongst us.
[01:01:26]  Yeah.
[01:01:26]  Well, you also got to go like, you're like, okay, so what.
[01:01:28]  Excuse me, lady, you're the 10th floor for when you can finally graduate.
[01:01:34]  So please, I become a real boy after I fuck you.
[01:01:38]  But there's things where like you kind of got to go, like, you just have to kind of find the balance of like, okay, well, like, I want to get here.
[01:01:45]  If I just did everything I think is the right thing to do, I'll never get there.
[01:01:48]  So let me do most of what I think is the right thing to do.
[01:01:51]  And still, you know, like, I remember like right now, I feel like a little bit safer, but I have a feeling over the next year, it's going to get fucking tough again, like where you're more worried about getting like kicked off YouTube and shit like that.
[01:02:01]  But I remember for a time, maybe it was like 2021, 2022, where I started getting pretty convinced that a lot of people were getting vaccine injured from the COVID jab.
[01:02:13]  But I was like, if I talk about this, my YouTube channel's gone.
[01:02:17]  You know what I mean?
[01:02:18]  And I know it'll be gone.
[01:02:19]  Like if it was anyone who talked about that shit, that was fucking gone.
[01:02:22]  And so you're like, so what is the right move to do here?
[01:02:25]  Talk about it and then just lose my entire channel.
[01:02:28]  And then everything else I want to say doesn't get heard by nearly as many fucking people.
[01:02:32]  Or maybe just kind of like, you bite your tongue on this one.
[01:02:35]  I rail about how against the mandates I am.
[01:02:38]  And then you keep the thing.
[01:02:39]  And so, like, I never say anything that I don't believe, but I definitely don't say everything I believe.
[01:02:44]  Like, I'll bite my time.
[01:02:46]  You go, okay, well, you got to play the game a little bit.
[01:02:48]  Because otherwise, I'm fucking ruined and I don't have a fucking career.
[01:02:50]  And then what am I doing anyway?
[01:02:51]  If you're first starting, I mean, the same thing if anyone that's, hey, I want to change the world.
[01:02:55]  It's like, if you, if you have like two people and you have some, any sort of radical opinion, you know what I mean?
[01:03:01]  It's like, you need to build up some sort of power to, and then when do you use it?
[01:03:05]  It's like, that is, that's like a question of, you know, success and being a human.
[01:03:10]  You go, oh, listen, I have these.
[01:03:12]  And I think in our industry, we've watched people that have the power of like 20 people that listen to them and then use all their power, every accumulated bit of goodwill and power for the tiniest little thing, you know?
[01:03:25]  And you kind of need to figure out what's the like calculus on how much power do I have versus what I'm trying to accomplish.
[01:03:32]  And, you know, it's, it's, I don't know if that makes it like corrupt or by nature.
[01:03:39]  Just doing the calculus.

=== Apple App Store Monopoly Issues (12:39) ===

[01:03:40]  It's somewhat corrupt game.
[01:03:43]  Am I taking too many words to say don't hate the player, hate the game?
[01:03:45]  Well, you're for sure.
[01:03:46]  I don't know.
[01:03:47]  You could be like, oh, I'm going to start a new YouTube, but you're like, you're not.
[01:03:50]  So like Rumble is.
[01:03:52]  But that's going to take a while for them to be.
[01:03:55]  I guess they are like, there are some people who have pretty big followings on Rumble, though.
[01:03:58]  So Rumble is, it seems like of all the we're going to be the free speech YouTube, they've been the most successful to on that conversation about calculus, like that's something that I honestly have always kind of felt like markets solve this stuff better than, I mean, obviously you probably wouldn't be the guy to talk to you.
[01:04:17]  You're in the right place.
[01:04:17]  Think about like what maybe shit that we would like have a problem with in comedy or on the internet with censorship.
[01:04:23]  Like the alternative platforms are probably doing more to sort of solve that than every person that's been a pundit, you know, campaigning about it or griping it.
[01:04:33]  And I would say the same thing in our industry, like comedians leaving those space as opposed to being, oh, I'll still do it, but we're going to fight the fight.
[01:04:42]  Leaving that space, starting something new has actually almost done.
[01:04:47]  So to me, it's like that's another power of calculus.
[01:04:50]  Yeah, there's a, you know, like I think it was in the 70s that the federal government brought like an antitrust suit against IBM for having a monopoly on computers.
[01:05:02]  Yeah, I remember really.
[01:05:02]  And while they were doing it, it took like forever, you know, to, because it's a government.
[01:05:06]  Yeah, they basically got like usurped during that.
[01:05:09]  While they were doing it, Bill Gates was like a hippie in a college dorm somewhere.
[01:05:12]  This is before he was poisoning everyone with vaccines.
[01:05:16]  And he mosquitoed then?
[01:05:17]  Yeah.
[01:05:17]  And he just made Microsoft.
[01:05:19]  And then in like, I think it was the year 99 or 2000, the government went after Microsoft for having a monopoly.
[01:05:26]  And I believe they lost all these cases, I believe, and tried to break up these companies.
[01:05:30]  And then Apple was like doing it.
[01:05:32]  So while the government's like slowly plotting to like fix some supposed problem, the market is just like, oh, we're going to innovate this to the point that you won't even know what this industry is doing.
[01:05:41]  You know, where the government loses on that one is that they slow down companies significantly by bogging them down with court cases.
[01:05:48]  And then the market evolves.
[01:05:50]  And then all of a sudden, you know, you get some competitors in other countries.
[01:05:53]  It's like you look at the auto unions and you've, and like at one point, they broke up General Motors from like its auto parts suppliers that they couldn't be in both industries.
[01:06:02]  It's like, I don't know, that could be a way more established company that would be doing a better job competing against Camry and offering more good jobs still in Detroit.
[01:06:12]  You know what I mean?
[01:06:12]  It's like you look at all like the things that they busted up and you're like, oh, but that could have been a company that could have just focused on doing what it did and then actually have been great, you know, 50, 60 years down the line.
[01:06:22]  Well, it's tough to pinpoint it right now because you do want to stop Monopoly.
[01:06:26]  Like that's the, but you kind of look at a lot of these and you're, it's like, is it a monopoly?
[01:06:32]  Like what it's, it's gotten complicated to determine what Apple is pretty close to.
[01:06:37]  I mean, that's one.
[01:06:38]  Like the app store is everybody's like so worried about like getting kicked off of stuff and you're like, Yeah, but the actual person who makes the calls of shots on all this shit is Apple and the app store.
[01:06:47]  But that's now going to let you not be in the app.
[01:06:49]  What was the fucking not Rumble, but the other there was like Getter or Gab or I think it was Gap.
[01:06:56]  Was that the one they took off the app when it started blowing up?
[01:06:58]  Yeah, and they just got it.
[01:07:01]  To this day, it's all gone.
[01:07:02]  Yeah.
[01:07:02]  No, I think the, I think it was Amazon took away their cloud serving so they couldn't be served to the internet.
[01:07:09]  I mean, Apple could be wrong every time it was a hard computer to get on True Social.
[01:07:13]  Apple takes fucking 30% of all the money just like that gets transacted on an iPhone to just take it for just yeah, that's yeah, so that's an actual monopoly, but then when you're like social media, it's they it's I mean, there's probably people are getting more eloquent in figuring out what this stuff is, right?
[01:07:27]  What is a little messy like with the IBM thing?
[01:07:29]  It was this new thing and they're like, they run it, but you're like, do they?
[01:07:32]  Or is it kind of still not going to be like so not, I'm not taking Bill Gates' side.
[01:07:37]  I want to make that very clear.
[01:07:38]  But I've heard him comment that he wish he got less involved in all the court cases at the time and just left it to the lawyers because if he had, he thinks he would have stayed ahead of Apple.
[01:07:48]  Oh, because it took all his brain space.
[01:07:50]  Yeah, because instead of working on the company and the innovations and the software and, you know, stealing other people's things to sell it to you, he got stuck.
[01:07:57]  So doing what he's great at?
[01:07:58]  Yeah, he got stuck, you know, trying to dip into winning the lawsuits.
[01:08:02]  Yeah, but you just drained a lot of resources.
[01:08:04]  You're draining your resources and focus.
[01:08:06]  And if nothing else, it's just the stress factor of you can't just be trying to be in the market, innovating, and competing.
[01:08:12]  Yeah, well, look, I mean, there's a few things on it, right?
[01:08:14]  Like, the idea of a monopoly is like there are instances where a monopoly is totally justified and fine.
[01:08:22]  Like, and like one of the instances would be like, if you invent a new industry, like, if you invent something new, and then at the time you invent it, you're the only one who provides it.
[01:08:30]  It's like, hey, you created something new.
[01:08:32]  Because there's no problem that you're the sole provider of it.
[01:08:34]  Because at the end of the day, you're the only one who can give something to people that they need.
[01:08:38]  And they never would have had it without you.
[01:08:40]  Yeah, I don't know.
[01:08:40]  There's a problem where you guys might be more libertarian than us because like, I think that me and you're probably more on the same page.
[01:08:45]  They're like, but do you not, so I guess you're just against government regulation in all forms, but like if you take Amazon right now and they act like they don't have a complete monopoly, but like places that actually do have a complete monopoly that set up closing the doors all over predatory price to kill all the competition, like that's not good.
[01:09:06]  Yeah, no, okay, so that would be bad.
[01:09:08]  So, but here's so basically the issue, it's not that that wouldn't be bad.
[01:09:15]  The thing is that government doesn't solve it.
[01:09:17]  And government is the worst monopoly.
[01:09:19]  They're the worst monopoly.
[01:09:20]  So like government is by its very definition, by its very definition, like we are a monopoly on the courts, on the police, on who writes the laws, on who they are.
[01:09:29]  Yeah, and many other, you know, like little things that you wouldn't even like necessarily think about, but like a monopoly on who can regulate an industry, you know, like all these things.
[01:09:37]  And the problem is that government, by its very nature, because it's the worst monopoly in all of these examples, if you look into it, right?
[01:09:45]  It's always like, yeah, okay.
[01:09:46]  Well, so, you know, think about what we know from the Twitter files and shit.
[01:09:50]  What was the government doing during this time where the app store was a monopoly that's kicking these people off?
[01:09:55]  They're like insisting that they do it.
[01:09:56]  Yeah.
[01:09:57]  They're not, you know what I'm saying?
[01:09:57]  Like they never come in to like actually decrease your power.
[01:10:01]  And as far as the shit that you're talking about with the whole, so this was a real plan by people like that they openly wrote about in the late 1800s, like the Robber Baron era, that JP Morgan and John D. Rockefeller were like, yo, look, here's the plan.
[01:10:17]  Okay, what we're going to do is we're going to undercut everybody to put all of our competitors out of business.
[01:10:24]  Exactly.
[01:10:24]  And then once they're all out of business and we have a monopoly, we're going to drastically raise them and then they'll have no choice to do it.
[01:10:31]  And it failed every time.
[01:10:33]  Because what happened, and you can go, there's this guy, Thomas D. Lorenzo, did this great advice?
[01:10:40]  He's a historian.
[01:10:41]  He just went through, like, look, this is what happened every time they tried.
[01:10:44]  And what would happen?
[01:10:44]  What kind of things?
[01:10:45]  Yeah.
[01:10:45]  Well, so every time they did it, they would undercut their competition and they'd put them out of business.
[01:10:49]  And they go, great, now we can jack up the prices.
[01:10:52]  Someone else.
[01:10:52]  And as soon as they jacked up the prices, it was just some other entrepreneur would go, oh, I can come and undercut them.
[01:10:58]  And what they did after it failed.
[01:10:59]  Yeah, it's all different now is so much.
[01:11:01]  But I'm saying, this is the actual history of it.
[01:11:02]  Is what they did is after it failed over and over and over again, they went, oh, here's what we're going to do.
[01:11:08]  Let's buy off politicians to come in and write laws that will not allow our competition to come out.
[01:11:16]  This was the start of the whole progressive era.
[01:11:19]  The whole thing, it's really nuts.
[01:11:21]  But it's like basically Morgan and Rockefeller went like, they went, oh, okay.
[01:11:26]  There was like this progressive kind of ideology.
[01:11:29]  Socialism was a new like intellectual fad.
[01:11:31]  And they were like, no, you guys, you know, these guys saying we should have a managed economy, like a centralized government that manages the economy.
[01:11:36]  We totally realize that they're right.
[01:11:38]  That would help out the little guy.
[01:11:39]  We should have a managed economy.
[01:11:40]  We'll do the managing.
[01:11:41]  Of course.
[01:11:42]  And let's do that.
[01:11:43]  And then it'll totally help them out.
[01:11:44]  And all of this, let's write all these banking regulations to help out people.
[01:11:48]  It's all I've kind of had the argument on your side too, because you go, there is so much capital in America that you go, because there is a lot of times where you go, oh, what are you going to just start this?
[01:12:01]  And you go, well, yeah, like there's 25 people that could do that.
[01:12:05]  Yeah.
[01:12:06]  All I'm saying is like, what's going to look?
[01:12:08]  I do think it's an issue that like the app store has so much fucking power.
[01:12:12]  I think it's an issue that Google has so much power.
[01:12:14]  Yeah, what would you do about the app store?
[01:12:16]  What would your opinion be?
[01:12:17]  I am quite confident that getting the government out of all of this is going to be the best shot at there being a real competitor to that.
[01:12:26]  I mean, like, because you can't have a competitor.
[01:12:28]  Google is so in bed with the fucking government.
[01:12:30]  And we're going to go to the bottom.
[01:12:30]  We didn't just help them, right?
[01:12:31]  It's just regulatory capture stuff.
[01:12:32]  Apple too.
[01:12:33]  Oh, yeah, all of them.
[01:12:34]  And we don't even know.
[01:12:35]  I mean, I would love to.
[01:12:36]  But how do you force a private company to be like, hey, you know, we set up this whole system, this whole ecosystem?
[01:12:41]  They're like, this is just the fee we charge for doing it.
[01:12:44]  Well, I get that, but I have too much power in it.
[01:12:46]  But if you're saying, like, the government ain't solving it, so you go, the closest you're going to get is if there was a competitor, but this is preventing.
[01:12:54]  He's saying this is preventing the better solution, right?
[01:12:56]  But my focus is like, whatever, look, because we don't even really know with Google.
[01:13:00]  Like, fuck, I, you know, we've caught them on a few things where, like, you know, Tulsi Gabbard, when she was in the debates, was the most Googled candidate back in 2016.
[01:13:10]  Or no, it's 20, 2019.
[01:13:11]  Was that Cap?
[01:13:13]  And then should they just fucking changed it so that when you Google her, her website doesn't come up?
[01:13:19]  Yeah.
[01:13:19]  They just made it so like, so she couldn't get donations off of it.
[01:13:22]  Yeah, I remember Googling her.
[01:13:24]  So that's, we know that.
[01:13:25]  How much have they interfered?
[01:13:27]  I don't know.
[01:13:27]  People send me shit all the time where it's like, if you go to like Google and search this story, or then if you go to these other search engines, like the story pops out, our search results are constantly changing, and we don't have much on that right now.
[01:13:39]  Yes, it's a lot of shit like that.
[01:13:40]  So what the extent of it is is probably much more than we know about.
[01:13:43]  But do you think like the CIA is like trying to get them to stop doing that?
[01:13:47]  Or do you think they're like, yes, keep doing this?
[01:13:50]  So rather than what we would force Google to do, I'm like, let's get the government to stop.
[01:13:54]  Whatever part of the government is like insisting they do this, let's try to get them out of here.
[01:13:59]  And then that'll at least get a better shot.
[01:14:01]  You're right.
[01:14:02]  I was still doing the classic thing of like saying maybe the government could clean up the mess they're making.
[01:14:07]  I'm not saying, right, but that is, that is, and maybe in some instances, like that's necessary.
[01:14:13]  You know, like sometimes they make such a mess that it's like, okay, in the short term, you kind of do need to fucking clean this up.
[01:14:19]  Okay, that makes sense.
[01:14:19]  But like in terms of like the bigger picture with all this shit, I think that they, they, the government is never going to like see a monopoly and go, I want to break that monopoly up because it's not serving the people well.
[01:14:32]  they're going to see a monopoly and go, we need to control that monopoly.
[01:14:36]  Or if the monopoly doesn't want to play ball with them, then they'll go, there's a monopoly and we need to break it up, which is what tends to happen.
[01:14:42]  But wouldn't sometimes it be that someone created a movement and that like issue gets very popular and that's why they want to break it up.
[01:14:50]  You know what I mean?
[01:14:51]  Sometimes it's just like a, uh, they were able to make, have that catch steam, you know, socially.
[01:14:57]  Yeah, I'm not saying it's impossible, but in almost every case, then they will take that energy and redirect it into what they want.
[01:15:07]  So like, even if you think about something like, we got some energy here, boys.
[01:15:10]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:15:10]  It's like, oh, look, I mean, if you think about how much, say, like the establishment, I mean, you know, if you zoom out a bit, but say from like the like 1940s to like today, where like the energy would have been like, yeah, and then you got to keep these black people out of your neighborhoods and you got to keep that.
[01:15:25]  And then there's like the civil rights movement and they're like, we demand equal rights.
[01:15:27]  And they're like, yeah, it's your white privilege that makes you not like, and like they just found a way to divide you on the other side.
[01:15:33]  Like, oh, we're hopping on this side now.
[01:15:35]  I'm sorry.
[01:15:36]  See you later.
[01:15:36]  And you're almost like, what, who was the party that was all for like segregation in the KKK?
[01:15:40]  And you're like, oh, it's the Democrats.
[01:15:41]  You know, like, it was like all your like, all your grandpas were just on that side.
[01:15:45]  And then just, you know, so I just feel like it's, oh, it's like power corrupts.
[01:15:50]  Really, at the heart of the matter, right, is that the problem with monopolies is that power corrupts.
[01:15:54]  And then the heart of the problem with government is that they have more power than that monopoly because they're, they have monopolies of the most vital services.
[01:16:02]  And so then you're like, oh, okay.
[01:16:04]  So you're just going to get a more corrupt monopoly to come in to solve monopoly.
[01:16:09]  There's so many issues where it's like, you, you kind of, I think it's, that's just, there's something about humans when there's an issue and you're just like, we need to fix this.
[01:16:17]  And you're like, I know, but there isn't a perfect solution.

=== Junk Science on Minimum Wage (02:06) ===

[01:16:19]  Like, yeah.
[01:16:20]  And that is like, people just can't handle that.
[01:16:22]  Everything's trade-offs.
[01:16:23]  It's almost like bad for your brain.
[01:16:24]  Like, even when you look at like the climate change thing and the way people talk about it, it's just like, if you do the calculus, even if like you, you know, people have made this point, but even on top of that, like if you give them their thing where you go, okay, it's happening.
[01:16:36]  It's going to kill us all.
[01:16:37]  If I was to bet everything I own, the solutions, there's like the, oh, we're going to, it's basically like, hey, we're using too much electricity and your chicks.
[01:16:47]  Like, what if we like close the fridge more?
[01:16:49]  It's kind of how I feel when I'm recycling.
[01:16:51]  I'm just like, this isn't doing anything.
[01:16:52]  It feels like all their solutions.
[01:16:53]  Even if your thing is so catastrophic, if I look at all the possible like worlds, you know, the one that you're proposing isn't one of them.
[01:17:01]  Well, regardless, that solves it.
[01:17:03]  Whoever the most radical like, you know, believer in climate change or the most radical climate activist is, like, and let's say I concede you're right about all of the science.
[01:17:14]  Okay.
[01:17:14]  You're 100% right that climate change is real.
[01:17:17]  It's caused by man and it's going to be a disaster.
[01:17:20]  All of this is correct.
[01:17:21]  You go, okay, but then you go, okay, so here's the policy that is that we need to stop having, you know, gas stoves or we have to, you know, stop having gas cars or whatever it might be.
[01:17:30]  And you go like, okay, cool.
[01:17:32]  But what's the cost of that?
[01:17:33]  And don't pretend that's nothing.
[01:17:35]  You know what I mean?
[01:17:35]  Like, what's the cost of that?
[01:17:37]  Because that's going to ruin a lot of people.
[01:17:38]  Like, if we just stop burning fossil fuels, a lot of poor people starve to death, right?
[01:17:42]  So like, what's the cost of that?
[01:17:43]  And then tell me in your catastrophe picture, what actual difference does it make if just America stops doing that?
[01:17:52]  And then yeah, and then you watch the costs versus the benefits, but they don't even want to have a conversation like that.
[01:17:57]  It's just like, well, if you believe this, then you have to support every one of these fucking policies.
[01:18:02]  It kind of goes back to the thing where you just can't.
[01:18:03]  It's like, same when they raise minimum wage, they have to like pretend that it has no effect because like they just, you sort of like, yeah, you just have to pretend.
[01:18:10]  It's like, well, it definitely had some effect.
[01:18:12]  Yeah.
[01:18:13]  How are you going to even, and then all this shit is like a lot of that science is junk science too, because it'll be like a lot of the like empirical science ends up being really questionable because they'll be like, oh, the minimum wage had no effect.

=== The Cost of Climate Action (03:49) ===

[01:18:25]  And you're like, well, how do you judge that?
[01:18:27]  And they're like, well, we raised the minimum wage and the unemployment rate was the same the next year.
[01:18:31]  And you're like, yeah, but that doesn't prove anything.
[01:18:33]  You don't know what it would have been had you not raised the minimum wage.
[01:18:37]  So, yeah, if you had a time machine and could go back and now not raise the minimum wage and then see the unemployment rate, right?
[01:18:42]  But there's probably a thousand things that are factors.
[01:18:45]  That comes like an host, right?
[01:18:46]  Just like you're pouring a thing into it.
[01:18:48]  That's the reason why.
[01:18:49]  Yeah, yeah, that's the reason why it stayed the same.
[01:18:51]  Like, no, that's not true.
[01:18:52]  It's very possible the unemployment rate would have fallen, but stayed the same.
[01:18:56]  Your buddy went that's a clock blocker that showed up, and he's like, You and he's like, You're like, you're being clockblocked.
[01:19:01]  He's like, Yeah, but you had sex with a girl.
[01:19:03]  You go, you don't know how many I potentially would have.
[01:19:08]  It's like, dude, that was always my dude.
[01:19:10]  My the thing that drives me the craziest in comedy is uh, I'm sure we've all had this experience before, but you know, you're having you're having like a whatever set, and there's like a heckler, and then you smash the heckler and you kill smashing the heckler.
[01:19:25]  Like, that part just destroys, and you weren't killing, but then you kill, and then the heckler has that thing where it's like, I was trying to help you out a little bit up there, and you're like, No, that's exactly what it is.
[01:19:35]  You weren't trying to help me, you were trying to ruin me.
[01:19:38]  And in spite of you, I turned the whole thing around and made it down.
[01:19:42]  Now he's trying to take the credit.
[01:19:43]  I feel like he's kind of like, it was a little bit low there until I popped up, and then it got like really good.
[01:19:48]  I should murder you right now.
[01:19:50]  You can't leave here thinking that about yourself.
[01:19:53]  One of my favorite things in comedy is how, like, forever, hecklers are like these most horrible people, and they're like, But I'm helping.
[01:19:59]  And you're like, You're not helping, like, forever.
[01:20:00]  And then now everybody's like, Yeah, you kind of help with them.
[01:20:04]  I have had a clip.
[01:20:05]  And I will tell you, I have had sets where it was like that, and you go, I'll never want to admit it, but you're like, Thank God that I had nothing going, and then I thought, I was like, Thank you.
[01:20:14]  40 years in comedy, it was like, You're not helping.
[01:20:17]  That one's been driving me nuts.
[01:20:19]  Like, it happened to me not that often, but it happened like a couple weeks ago, where you'll be on stage and saying kind of aggressive stuff, but just because that's my style or whatever, I was kind of like, Okay, so you know what?
[01:20:32]  I'm not going to talk about that anymore.
[01:20:33]  That was too much or something, right?
[01:20:35]  And but like, I'm having like a really good set, and then the guy comes up to me afterward, and he's like, Dude, like, you know, I thought it was great, man.
[01:20:42]  It's just Brooklyn, they can't handle stuff.
[01:20:44]  And I was like, I killed, I was, I planted that idea in your head that this was too much.
[01:20:50]  It actually went good.
[01:20:51]  People, I've learned that a lot over the years.
[01:20:54]  I hypnotize if you, if you tell people a narrative, it is shocking what a high percentage of them will just believe when you say, Dude, we got a fucking wrap, I gotta, I gotta run back over and do another show.
[01:21:03]  You guys got some stuff you want to plug?
[01:21:05]  Uh, just dandy jokes, yeah.
[01:21:07]  The boyscast, youtube.com/slash the boyscast comes out every Friday, patreon.com/slash the boyscast.
[01:21:15]  We just had Donald Smarry on last week, so check that one out.
[01:21:18]  Yeah, I gotta check that out.
[01:21:20]  If you're uh listening and you don't go check out Boyscast, it's fucking great.
[01:21:23]  Danny and Ryan are both fucking hilarious, man.
[01:21:25]  So, go uh, go support them.
[01:21:26]  What do you got tonight?
[01:21:28]  Um, I got I have an I think a couple more stand-up shows, and then uh, I don't know, I think I'm on one more podcast.
[01:21:35]  I don't know, yeah, we're doing our live thing.
[01:21:36]  I mean, we might put it out on our channel, actually, and it's gonna be we have a good crew: uh, TJ Miller, uh, Kurt Metzger, and Justin Silver, the five of us, and we're going through all the all of the list of uh things that girls say are the worst problems with men.
[01:21:54]  That's a great, that's a great concept.
[01:21:55]  All right, guys, argue with my girl for 20 minutes beforehand just to get fired up.
[01:21:59]  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[01:22:00]  No, you don't, it's like, yeah, that's that's basically the stretching of your podcast.
[01:22:04]  I gotta fuck with my girl.
[01:22:05]  I want a pong thing.
[01:22:06]  I gotta literally walk into my hotel room right now, go, I thought I told you to clean up, take a shit, leave the seat up.
[01:22:13]  All right, thanks for listening, guys.