Part Of The Problem - Dave Smith - The Migrant Crisis Comes To Sanctuary Cities
Aired: 2023-09-11
Duration: 59:40


=== Crack and Open-Ended Claims (12:55) ===

[00:00:09]  We need to roll back the state.
[00:00:11]  We spy on all of our own citizens.
[00:00:13]  Our prisons are flooded with nonviolent drug offenders.
[00:00:17]  If you want to know who America's next enemy is, look at who we're funding right now.
[00:00:22]  Every single one of these problems are a result of government being way too big.
[00:00:27]  You're listening to part of the problem on the gas digital network.
[00:00:31]  Steer your host.
[00:00:34]  What's up, everybody?
[00:00:34]  Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
[00:00:37]  I am Dave Smith.
[00:00:38]  He is Rob Bernstein.
[00:00:40]  What's up, my beautiful co-host slash lover slash life partner?
[00:00:44]  How are you, Sarah?
[00:00:46]  It's nice to actually be doing an episode, Davey Smith.
[00:00:48]  There you go.
[00:00:49]  There you go.
[00:00:50]  All running and gunning.
[00:00:51]  It's hard to get them in.
[00:00:52]  Yes, that's right.
[00:00:53]  You, of course, are coming back from a lovely trip to maybe not California, but the airport that'll take you to California.
[00:01:02]  You went there.
[00:01:03]  That's nice.
[00:01:04]  That's half full of a seat to the Newark runway for six hours.
[00:01:09]  So I really got to take it in.
[00:01:11]  Man, yeah, that sucks.
[00:01:13]  What terminal were you at in Newark, though?
[00:01:15]  Is it A?
[00:01:16]  They just redid it.
[00:01:17]  No, it's not B because B. Listen, as long as I can warn the others not to take Spirits airlines, then it was all worth it.
[00:01:26]  You can warn a whole bunch of people and they can all say, we know.
[00:01:31]  Obviously.
[00:01:32]  Who does that?
[00:01:34]  What's wrong with you?
[00:01:36]  Why were you ever in that situation?
[00:01:38]  Oh, Rob.
[00:01:39]  Yeah.
[00:01:39]  All right.
[00:01:40]  That does sound like a bit of a nightmare.
[00:01:41]  But you know what?
[00:01:42]  You still got a lot of other cool stuff coming up.
[00:01:44]  Me and you are going to SkankFest.
[00:01:46]  We're going to Europe.
[00:01:48]  We're going all over the place.
[00:01:49]  ComicDaveSmith.com.
[00:01:50]  Also, governors, come on out.
[00:01:52]  I'll be there in a couple of weeks.
[00:01:53]  Got Chris Vega coming with me for that one.
[00:01:55]  ComicDaveSmith.com for a whole bunch of other dates.
[00:01:58]  Aside from the governor's one, I think everything else, you're with me on Rob.
[00:02:03]  So a whole bunch of our stuff together.
[00:02:04]  And then RobbyTheFire.com.
[00:02:06]  That's where you can go to get all Rob's headline gigs.
[00:02:09]  Anything particular you got coming that you want to plug?
[00:02:11]  Yeah, not this weekend, but the following weekend.
[00:02:13]  I'm in upstate New York in Booneville and Utica with Howie Dewey.
[00:02:17]  There's going to be a really fun show.
[00:02:18]  So come hang out.
[00:02:19]  Nice little girl there.
[00:02:22]  All right.
[00:02:22]  There's a few things that are going on that I wanted to talk about on the show today.
[00:02:28]  I'm debating in my head over which one gets the lead, which one I should start with.
[00:02:32]  But I actually think I'm going to go, I'm going to change it up.
[00:02:35]  I was going to talk about RFK first, but let's start with the Tucker Carlson thing because this is something I've been thinking about a lot over the last year.
[00:02:43]  I just want to come out and let people know I had sex with Obama and I could really use that publicity.
[00:02:48]  So just I did, I also had sex with him.
[00:02:52]  Now you got two stories.
[00:02:53]  Two?
[00:02:54]  Two stories.
[00:02:54]  Did you smoke crack?
[00:02:56]  No, he did, though, which helped him loosen up and get ready for me.
[00:02:59]  So he prepares.
[00:03:01]  If he smoked crack and you had sex.
[00:03:04]  All right.
[00:03:04]  That's a story.
[00:03:05]  I'll give it to you.
[00:03:05]  Well, anyway, so this is, if people, I'm sure most of you have heard about this.
[00:03:11]  So last week, Tucker Carlson interviews this guy, Sinclair, something, and basically a guy who is alleging that him and Obama smoked crack together and had gay sex.
[00:03:24]  And the guy is like, I don't know.
[00:03:27]  He's like, I think been in and out of jail and just, let's just say not like, not the most trustworthy person.
[00:03:34]  There was really no evidence.
[00:03:37]  There's no evidence to really back it up.
[00:03:39]  And Tucker just had this interview.
[00:03:41]  And Tucker did disclaim at the beginning.
[00:03:43]  Like, we don't know if these claims are true or not, but he did the interview.
[00:03:47]  And anyway, the response to him doing that interview and the response to it have really, I've been thinking a lot about this over the last few days.
[00:03:56]  And I will be honest with you guys and say that almost always, almost every time I have a topic or a story that I want to talk to you guys about, almost every single time, I have an opinion on it.
[00:04:09]  And I'm like, look, this is what I think is right here.
[00:04:12]  This is what the correct answer is or whatever.
[00:04:14]  And this is something that I do struggle with a bit.
[00:04:18]  And it's something that I think a lot of people who are outside, if you're not.
[00:04:25]  Say not a woke progressive, like anything else other than a woke progressive.
[00:04:30]  I think this is one of the things that we've all been struggling with and I still I I tend to still lean against what Tuffer did and and in general, you know, we had an episode I forget years ago and I forget exactly what we were talking about, but the title of the episode was, don't become what you hate, and I think it was all about kind of like the right wing, almost like embracing cancel culture to get left wingers, you know, canceled and stuff,
[00:04:58]  and that there's um a feeling when it comes to a lot of this stuff, that you, if you're not a woke progressive, you're stuck in this place where you go, okay, what do I do here?
[00:05:11]  Do I say like i'm gonna stay above the fray, i'm gonna do honest.
[00:05:16]  You know, i'm gonna be honest while they play these really dirty games and there's something noble about that because you're like, no, that's the right thing to do.
[00:05:25]  The right thing to do is not to be as as awful as they are.
[00:05:29]  The issue comes in when you're doing that for a while and you're losing and losing and losing, at a certain point it becomes very tempting to just kind of fight fire with fire.
[00:05:40]  And there is this um, what I see as like a real bias, and I think in many cases it's um, it's a subconscious bias, it's like in it something's been internalized here.
[00:05:54]  But the amount of say, like pushback that i've seen Tucker get over doing this interview, when you, when you compare it to like I don't know, like CNN and or was it Msnbc, one of them, they had the, the crazy lady who was making allegations against Donald Trump on.
[00:06:12]  There was no evidence put forward for that, it was just some crazy lady making accusations.
[00:06:16]  You think about what they did to Brett Kavanaugh.
[00:06:18]  I mean, it was just unbelievable, you know.
[00:06:20]  And I see these people and they're like, writing articles about how, like Tucker Carlson, you know, humiliates himself.
[00:06:26]  This isn't real journalism, this isn't it.
[00:06:28]  And those same people I, because I know a lot of them they were not saying this when that woman was testifying against Kavanaugh.
[00:06:36]  Same thing, right same same situation.
[00:06:39]  Some person saying 30 years ago it was much older in the case of Kavanaugh, but some woman comes out and goes, 35 years ago he did this.
[00:06:48]  There's no evidence.
[00:06:49]  There's nothing.
[00:06:50]  She didn't even have a place, a date.
[00:06:52]  She didn't right like she didn't have a location, she had nothing.
[00:06:55]  And yet everybody's response is almost like, well, let her tell her story.
[00:07:00]  I don't know if she's lying or not, but it's like.
[00:07:02]  But when it happens on the right wing, everybody is like immediately you kind of see who's who Like what and anyway, you can jump in here with whatever you want.
[00:07:11]  No, I was gonna say I just think that it would be fair.
[00:07:14]  We should apply the concept of believe all women to men as long as they're receiving.
[00:07:19]  Oh, yeah, that is true.
[00:07:20]  That basically makes you a chick.
[00:07:22]  You got to believe this dude.
[00:07:23]  Believe all women.
[00:07:24]  We don't know if he was giving or receiving from the believe all women standard.
[00:07:32]  But if he was, if he was giving it to Obama, then just get out of here.
[00:07:36]  We don't want to hear your story.
[00:07:38]  Okay.
[00:07:38]  But do you get, you know, you get the point I'm making, Rob, where there is something to like, look, this is what I think more or less is what Tucker Carlson is doing.
[00:07:46]  I don't know this.
[00:07:47]  This is just what I think.
[00:07:49]  I think he's, he was like, you know what?
[00:07:52]  I'm going to play the game that they're playing right now.
[00:07:56]  That you want to like, it's almost like you guys want to play this way.
[00:07:59]  And Tucker is a person who has really been, you know, this guy gets called all types of names by all of these people.
[00:08:04]  They've been viciously smearing him for years.
[00:08:06]  And I think, I think he also recognizes that I believe he's operating under the belief system that Obama essentially is still running the country because I've heard him talk about this before.
[00:08:19]  And there is an argument to be made.
[00:08:21]  Clearly, it's not Biden, right?
[00:08:22]  Like we don't know exactly who's running the White House.
[00:08:24]  I don't know if it's his, it's his, you know, his national director of intelligence or it's his, his, you know, the chief of staff.
[00:08:32]  I don't know who's actually running the White House, but we know it's not Joe Biden.
[00:08:36]  And I think that the White House is packed with Obama loyalists.
[00:08:41]  And, you know, Tucker feels like he's still kind of like the head of the Democratic Party.
[00:08:45]  He's still the kingmaker and all of that.
[00:08:48]  And I think he's just like, well, we're playing the game here.
[00:08:51]  This is what you guys will do to all of us.
[00:08:52]  I mean, look at what they're doing to Donald Trump right now.
[00:08:55]  He's like, okay, well, there's a guy here saying you did this.
[00:08:58]  So I'm going to amplify his voice to tens of millions of people.
[00:09:03]  They are all going to hear this allegation.
[00:09:06]  And I'm not saying I agree with that.
[00:09:08]  I'm not saying I do.
[00:09:10]  I'm saying that I struggle with it.
[00:09:12]  And I understand the argument.
[00:09:14]  I understand the argument where at a certain point, if the gloves are really off and your enemies are playing by this despicable standard, that maybe the move is you have to play that game.
[00:09:26]  Maybe that's actually what works.
[00:09:28]  You know, I see sometimes these polls.
[00:09:31]  I don't remember the exact like latest one, but I saw one where it said it was something like 70% of the Democratic base still believes that Trump was involved in a conspiracy with the Russians to steal the election in 2016.
[00:09:45]  Because it doesn't matter how many podcasts me and you do just debunking the whole thing.
[00:09:49]  They said it over and over again.
[00:09:51]  CNN, that's what happened.
[00:09:52]  They said it every day for fucking four years.
[00:09:55]  And now there's just a huge chunk of the population.
[00:09:58]  I don't know.
[00:09:58]  I heard it.
[00:09:59]  I heard it.
[00:10:00]  So I believe it.
[00:10:02]  It seems like this is kind of like a fighting fire with fire type of thing, which evidently you do.
[00:10:08]  Evidently there are cases where firefighters actually do fight fire with fire.
[00:10:12]  I don't get it.
[00:10:12]  But anyway, the Canadian government, you just start the fires.
[00:10:15]  Sometimes, sometimes you fight forests with fire.
[00:10:19]  You know, that happens too.
[00:10:21]  But I understand it's like I still err on the side of like, don't become what you hate.
[00:10:29]  Otherwise, we're all destined to lose.
[00:10:30]  And this is what we have.
[00:10:31]  Somebody's got to be like the good guy.
[00:10:35]  But I do, I got to be honest.
[00:10:38]  There's part of me that's kind of like, yeah, good for them.
[00:10:41]  Now just like a whole bunch of people are just going to think of Obama as like this crack smoking homo and whatever.
[00:10:48]  I don't know.
[00:10:49]  There's a whole bunch of people who thought of Brett Kavanaugh as like a ritualistic serial rapist based off nothing, literally off nothing.
[00:11:00]  All the other accusations, by the way, like walked it back, which came out after he got, there were like four, and then like three of them were just outlandish and ridiculous, and they all turned out to be lies.
[00:11:10]  And then the one, the woman who came and testified, she wasn't even accusing him of rape.
[00:11:15]  She accused him of like throwing her on a bed 35 years ago.
[00:11:21]  There wasn't even yet to huge numbers of people, they were like, oh, that guy's a rapist.
[00:11:27]  You know, and so it's just like, that shit is so, I mean, the guy's got a wife and kids.
[00:11:32]  It's a, that is vicious to do to somebody.
[00:11:36]  And that's what they do.
[00:11:38]  I don't know.
[00:11:39]  It's something I'm kind of struggling with, but it was, I did think it was interesting to talk about.
[00:11:43]  Well, this is a fun claim too, because even if you really go after the Sinclair fellow, he could just be like, well, I was on crack and I get black people confused.
[00:11:52]  So it's not even like he really has to stand by it.
[00:11:54]  Because guys, I'm just going to, I'm going to call honest mistake on this one.
[00:11:59]  I guess we all go home.
[00:12:00]  I personally, I never watched Tucker's show stylistically.
[00:12:04]  He's not my favorite.
[00:12:06]  I did think that there were some very cool moments where he was addressing things that nobody else was.
[00:12:11]  And so when that came across my timeline, it was like, oh, hell yeah, that's so cool that this guy is actually talking about January 6th or he's actually talking about the Ukraine war.
[00:12:19]  Like he definitely had those very cool moments.
[00:12:22]  It's not surprising to me that without maybe a little Fox News editorial direction, he'd be interested in this kind of stuff.
[00:12:30]  And I didn't even think it was particularly fun to watch because it's so, it was almost like when he, the other week, when he had that guy on who was doing business with the Bidens, and it's like, how come there aren't more tough follow-up questions here?
[00:12:42]  This feels like you're leaving everything a little bit too open-ended.
[00:12:46]  So I didn't enjoy either of the interviews because for having shocking people on willing to say shocking things, it was a little bit like boring and not really getting to the point.
[00:12:54]  With all that said, it's kind of hilarious.
[00:12:57]  And you're going to do a full hour for a couple of million people with the guy claiming that he had sex with Obama and he was doing crack.
[00:13:03]  It's funny.

=== Sanders on January 6th (15:00) ===

[00:13:04]  All right.
[00:13:04]  Whatever.
[00:13:05]  Is it journalist?
[00:13:05]  Like, it's not high-end journalism, but yeah, I guess you're a free agent.
[00:13:09]  You can do whatever the fuck you want.
[00:13:10]  And it's funny.
[00:13:11]  Yeah.
[00:13:11]  Truthfully, I think I'm a big fan of Tucker Carlson.
[00:13:15]  And I think I don't even particularly love his interviews in general.
[00:13:19]  I like watching him get interviewed.
[00:13:21]  And I like his monologues.
[00:13:24]  And his speeches.
[00:13:25]  Those are all nice like that.
[00:13:26]  I just want to hear him like speech of himself RFK.
[00:13:30]  Yeah.
[00:13:31]  Yeah.
[00:13:31]  His speeches are incredible.
[00:13:33]  I just want to like, I like listening to the guy and I think he's got a great perspective on things.
[00:13:37]  But anyway, I don't know.
[00:13:38]  I do, I think this is, this is, this was, again, I don't know this.
[00:13:41]  I haven't talked to Tucker Carlson about this, but I think this was deliberate and I think he knows exactly what he's doing.
[00:13:47]  And I think he was going, no, I'm going to play that game too.
[00:13:50]  It's like, you want to do this?
[00:13:51]  Let's do it.
[00:13:53]  And I get it.
[00:13:54]  Not saying I completely agree with it, but I get it.
[00:13:57]  And there's an argument to be made.
[00:13:59]  I think, and I say this based on absolutely nothing, literally nothing.
[00:14:02]  I feel like him, Russell Brand, and Alex Jones have a research team.
[00:14:05]  Like there's someone who actually sits down and puts together these pieces and they're very good at media.
[00:14:11]  And sometimes I think Tucker can do maybe the pieces that AJ can't get to a large audience anymore.
[00:14:19]  Yeah.
[00:14:19]  Well, maybe, maybe you're right.
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[00:15:47]  Okay, I wanted to talk about this also.
[00:15:49]  So Robert F. Kennedy Jr., a friend of the program who's been on the show and we have talked a lot about, he came out last night and was basically, according to him, there are going to be some rule changes in the Democratic from the DNC that are essentially going to make it impossible for him to win the nomination.
[00:16:17]  Basically, from what I understand, the rule changes, which have not officially happened yet, but looks like they're going to happen this week, would essentially make it so that he just has absolutely no chance of winning.
[00:16:30]  He would need to win something like 90% of the vote in order to beat Biden.
[00:16:37]  They're changing all types of things around so that he can't campaign in certain states.
[00:16:41]  He can't get delegates from certain states.
[00:16:43]  Even if he wins certain states, he wouldn't receive any delegates.
[00:16:46]  It's pretty unbelievable, at least according to Bobby Kennedy, what they're planning on doing here.
[00:16:54]  This is something that I imagine would not be shocking to me or you, Rob.
[00:16:59]  This is kind of something that was fairly predictable, but it is a big deal.
[00:17:05]  It is an interesting moment.
[00:17:07]  I think that there's something very positive about it, because I think if this does go down the way it seems like it's going to, this is going to be so naked and so transparent.
[00:17:20]  And just to make it abundantly clear for anyone who it's not already clear to that this is a rigged game.
[00:17:29]  We do not live in a democracy.
[00:17:31]  That's just not what, that's not the system that we're in here.
[00:17:35]  And that they had to do this in order to protect Biden.
[00:17:38]  I think that does nothing but give more energy to RFK's campaign, more energy to the kind of anti-establishment, populist feeling in this country.
[00:17:47]  So I see that as an overall positive thing.
[00:17:50]  Any thoughts, Rob?
[00:17:52]  I'd be curious to see what the specific rule changes are.
[00:17:55]  As you said, it's not surprising.
[00:17:57]  They were going to try and do whatever they could to ensure that Biden wasn't going to have to debate him or that there wasn't going to be, I mean, we remember what happened to Bernie Sanders.
[00:18:06]  And I almost think, and I've heard other people say this, that Biden's just staying in the race so that no one has to oppose RFK and then he's going to hand the mantle to someone else once they're through the primary season.
[00:18:19]  However, I do remember that the Republican Party, which isn't as good as playing dirty as the Democratic Party, tried to do something similar with Trump and Trump was winning so overwhelmingly that they couldn't pull it off.
[00:18:32]  I don't remember because now that's like eight years ago.
[00:18:33]  I remember that remember what happened.
[00:18:35]  What happened was that, so it was, was it not Paul?
[00:18:40]  It wasn't Paul Ryan.
[00:18:41]  It was blanking on the guy's name who was the head of the RNC at the time.
[00:18:46]  But he and huh?
[00:18:47]  Was it Boner still?
[00:18:49]  No, no, no.
[00:18:52]  Not the Speaker of the House, the head of the RNC, Prius, something.
[00:18:58]  Anyway, he basically announced that they were going to be changing the rules and they were going to up the amount of delegates that you needed to win the nomination to something like ridiculously high that no one could possibly get.
[00:19:12]  And then they would go, oh, no one got it.
[00:19:14]  So now we're just going to appoint Mitt Romney or whoever it was.
[00:19:18]  So it was now it was before this was in 2016.
[00:19:24]  So anyway.
[00:19:26]  So the basically they said, yes, Ryan's Priebus.
[00:19:30]  That's who it was.
[00:19:30]  Thank you, Brian.
[00:19:31]  So he said they were going to change the rules to do this.
[00:19:34]  And Donald Trump went in a speech the next day and he said there, I'll never forget the quote because it was such an interesting political move.
[00:19:41]  He goes, there'll be riots in the streets.
[00:19:44]  He was like, you guys try to do this.
[00:19:45]  My people will beat the shit out of you was basically like the threat.
[00:19:49]  Like my people are not playing around.
[00:19:51]  You are not allowed to steal this from me.
[00:19:53]  And they backed down and they backed down and they let him win it, which was pretty amazing.
[00:19:58]  But yeah, so they were flirting with trying to steal it from Donald Trump.
[00:20:03]  And then Trump, Trump got in and he, you know, he made sure all of those people never were in power again.
[00:20:08]  No, I'm just kidding.
[00:20:09]  He put them all in his cabinet and let them screw him over.
[00:20:12]  Anyway, but that's yes.
[00:20:14]  So they did that.
[00:20:14]  And of course they did it with Bernie Sanders too.
[00:20:17]  I do think that Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is, I think he's about a thousand times the threat to the establishment that Bernie Sanders was.
[00:20:27]  And it's not that Bernie Sanders very debatably had a bigger movement going for himself.
[00:20:34]  If you remember at one point, I mean, Bernie Sanders was like drawing tens of thousands of people to rallies and he was raising a lot of money.
[00:20:42]  But Bernie Sanders, Bernie Sanders was not destroying the paradigm.
[00:20:48]  And nothing Bernie Sanders ever said was ever really a threat to anyone in power.
[00:20:53]  Now, there might have been some people in power who didn't much like Bernie Sanders.
[00:20:57]  That's for sure.
[00:20:58]  And he certainly was not an acceptable option to them.
[00:21:00]  This is why they were cheating him out.
[00:21:02]  I mean, look, Bernie Sanders was to some degree demonizing billionaires and like bankers, you know?
[00:21:12]  And our government is run by billionaires and bankers.
[00:21:15]  And I think they don't very much like being demonized.
[00:21:18]  I think there's something to that.
[00:21:21]  But what Bernie Sanders was arguing for essentially in everything across the board was that the government should run this.
[00:21:31]  You know, that was, oh, the government should run this.
[00:21:33]  The government should have more power to give you health care.
[00:21:36]  The government should have more power to give you 15 bucks an hour.
[00:21:39]  The government should have more power to or man or legislate that your boss has to give you 15 bucks an hour.
[00:21:44]  The government should have more power for education, for housing, whatever it was.
[00:21:47]  It was always just kind of, and that isn't really a problem to them because that's the type of energy they can always take and control it.
[00:21:55]  They'll be like, yeah, absolutely.
[00:21:57]  Give us more power to run healthcare.
[00:21:59]  And it'll look like this, where all of the insurance companies make a lot more money.
[00:22:03]  It's like they can always deal with that.
[00:22:05]  But what RFK Jr. is doing is something entirely different.
[00:22:10]  RFK Jr. isn't saying like, you know, he's not saying, oh, let the government have some more power so they can run things.
[00:22:16]  RFK Jr. is saying, you know, that jab that they mandated you take?
[00:22:21]  It's killing people.
[00:22:23]  Like that's a whole different thing.
[00:22:25]  It's just like a whole different world.
[00:22:29]  And so we always kind of knew that this guy is more than just unacceptable in the a la Bernie Sanders.
[00:22:35]  This guy is an enemy to them and they're going to have to, they're going to have to do everything they can to take him out.
[00:22:42]  It'll be interesting to see how this all ends up shaking out and how he handles it.
[00:22:47]  So we'll have to keep watching.
[00:22:49]  But I guess there is a possibility that, You know, there's so many voters that are still just on like, you're just mainstream Democratic voters that still aren't aware of him because the election isn't in full swing and people haven't quite tuned in yet.
[00:23:04]  But I do wonder if maybe there'll be a scandal enough, a scandalous enough headline of a Kennedy has been prohibited to run by the Democratic Party that wants to ensure that this guy with dementia remains in office.
[00:23:18]  I wonder, it really comes down to public outrage.
[00:23:21]  You know what I mean?
[00:23:21]  If like mainstream people, if the story gets out there and people are just like, what the hell is this?
[00:23:26]  Then they won't be able to do it.
[00:23:27]  So it's really just a question of whether or not it breaks through.
[00:23:30]  It seems to me like Kennedy's got enough of the conspiracy storylines behind him that I don't know that the storyline of him being censored will break through with your mom and pop Democrats.
[00:23:43]  Yeah, I don't know.
[00:23:44]  I mean, look, there's a great angle to the story, right?
[00:23:47]  Like, I mean, it almost like sells itself.
[00:23:49]  It's like the political assassination of another Kennedy.
[00:23:52]  You know what I mean?
[00:23:53]  Like, right.
[00:23:53]  And I think what, I mean, I'd like to see him really just like go on a whole nother national tour about this specifically and see if maybe he can break through.
[00:24:03]  I mean, look, you're gonna, you're gonna get blocked on all the traditional media outlets.
[00:24:07]  We already know that.
[00:24:09]  Now you have all the new ones.
[00:24:11]  I don't know.
[00:24:12]  We'll, we'll see.
[00:24:13]  We'll see what he can do.
[00:24:14]  Another thing that was kind of interesting in terms of this whole the presidential race and how it's all shaping up is what Gavin Newsom said the other day, which was, I mean, it, well, look, let's play it and then we could discuss.
[00:24:26]  Here was Gavin Newsome on Meet the Press.
[00:24:31]  And I think we need to move past this notion that he's not going to run.
[00:24:35]  President Biden is going to run and looking forward to getting him reelected.
[00:24:39]  I think there's been so much wallowing in the last few months and hammering in this respect.
[00:24:45]  But we're gearing up for the campaign.
[00:24:47]  We're looking forward to it.
[00:24:48]  I under, you know, but you hear these calls privately.
[00:24:51]  What do you tell these donors who are wallowing?
[00:24:53]  Time to move on.
[00:24:55]  Let's go.
[00:24:56]  And am I supposed to interpret that comment about the vice president that if for some reason the president chose not to run at this point, everybody rallies around her?
[00:25:03]  It's the Biden-Harris administration.
[00:25:04]  That's maybe a more old fashioned.
[00:25:07]  I will say it sounds like he's not running.
[00:25:10]  I don't know.
[00:25:11]  I mean, he could say this and then take it back at some point.
[00:25:14]  But the fact that he put Harris up there, no one really asked him to.
[00:25:18]  And he was, it's one thing if he's just like, oh, no, like Biden's running and that's, that's what's happening.
[00:25:24]  So then you're kind of like, well, who knows what's going on here?
[00:25:26]  But the fact that he goes, well, no, if it's not Biden, it's Harris.
[00:25:29]  That kind of tells me he doesn't think he's running this year.
[00:25:31]  He doesn't think, I don't think that is happening then.
[00:25:34]  I guess they're actually going to go with Joe Biden because obviously they're not going with Harris.
[00:25:38]  Like even when he says that, you're like, well, come back to reality.
[00:25:41]  Nobody is running Kamala Harris.
[00:25:44]  Somehow, she somehow has a worse approval rating than Joe Biden and does worse in the head-to-head matchups with like Trump.
[00:25:52]  And that, can you imagine?
[00:25:54]  That's how awful she is.
[00:25:55]  That even like the Democrats are sitting there.
[00:25:58]  I think something like 75% of the country wants Joe Biden not to run.
[00:26:04]  It's a majority of Democrats even want him not to run.
[00:26:07]  They want someone else.
[00:26:08]  So like most Democrats are like, look, this guy's obviously too old and senile.
[00:26:12]  We can't have him.
[00:26:13]  And they're like, well, we have this vice president.
[00:26:15]  And they're like, we will take that old senile guy.
[00:26:17]  We changed our mind.
[00:26:18]  We saw her and we're like, we want to go back to Joe Biden.
[00:26:21]  Let him sniff my kids.
[00:26:23]  Just don't let this woman talk to me or my kids.
[00:26:27]  Pretty, pretty insane.
[00:26:30]  But so it actually, so now it's like, okay, so I guess they're really going to run Joe Biden.
[00:26:36]  I don't believe Joe Biden will serve another term.
[00:26:40]  Can you picture that happening?
[00:26:41]  I just, I know I've said this before.
[00:26:43]  I didn't think he'd make it through the 2020 primary.
[00:26:47]  I mean, me and you were, we got that one wrong.
[00:26:49]  We were predicting at the very beginning that there was no way this guy was going to make it through.
[00:26:53]  In our defense, he was clearly senile and we did not see 2020 coming.
[00:27:01]  You know what I mean?
[00:27:02]  And everything that was going to happen there and that he'd be able to essentially not campaign and still get the job.
[00:27:08]  And I was very unsure of whether he'd make it through his first term, but there's got to be no way he can actually serve another five years this year and another four years.
[00:27:19]  There's no chance, right?
[00:27:20]  Five more years at his age.
[00:27:22]  There's a lot of staircases.
[00:27:24]  Yeah.
[00:27:25]  A lot of kids to sniff.
[00:27:26]  I mean, I just don't think, I don't think he's getting through all of that.
[00:27:29]  I don't know.
[00:27:30]  What do you think?
[00:27:32]  Yeah, I don't imagine that Biden has another four years in him, and I think that they will have to replace him.
[00:27:39]  I watch Newsom here, and I think he's just playing ball.
[00:27:43]  Maybe you're right.
[00:27:45]  Newsom is probably their pick unless they're planning on writing Michael Obama or some other man who would be called by Shum.
[00:27:51]  Hell, Rob.
[00:27:52]  Oh, my God.
[00:27:52]  Sorry.
[00:27:53]  You keep saying that wrong.
[00:27:54]  It's an honest mistake, though.
[00:27:55]  A lot of people make that mistake.
[00:27:57]  A lot of people do.
[00:27:59]  I know I call my wife Lauren Larry almost every day.

=== Libertarian Immigration Simulations (16:56) ===

[00:28:04]  It's just one of those things that happens.
[00:28:06]  Me and Larry went on vacation this week.
[00:28:07]  Lauren, sorry.
[00:28:08]  What do I keep doing this?
[00:28:10]  So it's a totally normal thing that normal people do all the time.
[00:28:15]  Yeah, I guess you could be right.
[00:28:16]  Maybe I'm putting too much weight in his words.
[00:28:18]  He could just say this and then change his mind and come out with it.
[00:28:21]  I'm sure all these people are like so soulless.
[00:28:23]  You know, all they want, all of them, all they want is just like more power.
[00:28:27]  They'll step up the rank a little bit.
[00:28:30]  But I will say that this rule change that the DNC seems to be making and these comments by Newsom do seem to indicate to me that it's like, no, they're just, they're trying to get Joe Biden this nomination.
[00:28:44]  And that's what they're going to do.
[00:28:45]  Trying to get Donald Trump arrested, get Joe Biden the nomination.
[00:28:51]  And then we will see what happens from there.
[00:28:55]  But my God, what's it going to be?
[00:28:57]  You know, sometimes you almost don't even know what's best, like what would actually be best for the country.
[00:29:04]  Maybe to some degree, maybe Joe Biden winning again on some way would actually just be like, it would really just kind of be the nail in the coffin of convincing so many people that you're like, oh, like national politics just isn't real.
[00:29:17]  This isn't a real thing.
[00:29:19]  This is just insane.
[00:29:20]  There's no way.
[00:29:21]  There's no way, you know, and then just people kind of realize there's, I don't know, there's no, there's no fixes coming from the federal government.
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[00:31:02]  Let's get back into the show.
[00:31:03]  All right.
[00:31:05]  Let's shift gears here a little bit because there's a couple other things that I really wanted to talk about.
[00:31:13]  Let's go to the mayor of New York City.
[00:31:19]  This was quite something.
[00:31:20]  He gave, it wasn't a press conference, exactly.
[00:31:23]  He was giving a talk the other day.
[00:31:25]  And he was talking about the immigration issue, which has been a major topic of conversation in New York and in New Jersey, where I live now, where the governor of New Jersey actually kind of stood up and refused to take a lot of these migrants who I think Biden had asked him to.
[00:31:48]  And he was just like, no, no, we're not doing that.
[00:31:51]  It's a real thing that a lot of people, you know, I know New York City very well.
[00:31:56]  I was born and raised in New York City.
[00:31:58]  I lived there for the first 37 years of my life.
[00:32:01]  It's my city.
[00:32:02]  Me and you met in New York City, Rob.
[00:32:05]  I mean, we're, you know what I mean?
[00:32:06]  Doing comedy together there for many years.
[00:32:10]  I love New York City.
[00:32:11]  It's really tragic to me to see how much it's been destroyed.
[00:32:16]  I know a lot of people there.
[00:32:17]  I have a lot of family in New York City still.
[00:32:19]  And I know this has been a major problem for people all over.
[00:32:24]  The homeless and the immigrants have been a major problem in New York City for years now.
[00:32:29]  And the government is constantly like finding like a hotel and then making this, you know what I mean?
[00:32:36]  Like a new like housing for immigrants or homeless or something like that.
[00:32:40]  And it's a really big problem for all the people in that neighborhood.
[00:32:44]  So this has been happening a lot.
[00:32:46]  But here was the mayor, Eric Adams, discussing it the other day.
[00:32:53]  Never in my life have I had a problem that I did not see an ended to.
[00:32:59]  I don't see an ending to this.
[00:33:02]  I don't see an ending to this.
[00:33:04]  This issue will destroy New York City.
[00:33:09]  Destroy New York City.
[00:33:11]  We're getting 10,000 migrants a month.
[00:33:18]  One time we were just in Venezuela.
[00:33:21]  Now we're getting Ecuador.
[00:33:23]  Now we're getting Russian speaking coming through Mexico.
[00:33:25]  Now we're getting Western Africa.
[00:33:28]  Now we're getting people from all over the globe have made their minds up that they're going to come through the southern part of the border and come into New York City.
[00:33:37]  And everyone is saying it's New York City's problem.
[00:33:42]  Every community in this city is going to be impacted.
[00:33:45]  We had a $12 billion deficit that we're going to have to cut.
[00:33:51]  Every service in this city is going to be impacted.
[00:33:57]  All of us.
[00:33:58]  And so I say to you, as I turn it over to you, this is some of the most educated, some of the most knowledgeable, probably more of my commissioners and deputy commissioners and chiefs live in this community.
[00:34:12]  So as you asked me a question about migrants, tell me what role you played.
[00:34:18]  How many of you organized to stop what they're doing to us?
[00:34:23]  How many of you were part of the movement to say, we're seeing what this mayor is trying to do, and they're destroying New York City?
[00:34:32]  It's going to come to your neighborhoods.
[00:34:35]  All of us are going to be impacted by this.
[00:34:38]  I said it last year when we had 15,000.
[00:34:42]  I'm telling you now, with 110,000, the city we knew, we're about to lose.
[00:34:50]  And we're all in this together, all of us.
[00:34:53]  Statin Island said, send them out to Manhattan.
[00:34:56]  Manhattan is saying, send them out to Queens.
[00:34:59]  Queens is saying, send them out to Brooklyn.
[00:35:02]  Is that the game we can play?
[00:35:06]  Open the floor.
[00:35:08]  All right.
[00:35:08]  That was Ann Coulter giving a speech in New York City.
[00:35:17]  I was floored by that.
[00:35:20]  Like, just absolutely, it's hard to even put it into words.
[00:35:25]  It's really just unbelievable.
[00:35:26]  I mean, he's literally, this is Ann Coulter's book.
[00:35:30]  This is the book she wrote in 2014, 2015, whatever it is, called Adios America.
[00:35:35]  This was basically the whole plot of the book was that exactly what he's saying, exactly what he's saying.
[00:35:41]  And I got to say, as somebody who's a libertarian, I was for open borders years ago, if you can believe it, which I look back on now in some horror and embarrassment.
[00:35:53]  But this is the point that she was making.
[00:35:56]  And this was the point.
[00:35:57]  And evidently this book had a really big influence on Donald Trump.
[00:36:00]  And this was the stuff he was talking about running.
[00:36:02]  And this is the stuff he was so demonized for saying.
[00:36:04]  But the point was that she, like Ann Coulter in this book was like, look, there are a lot of issues, but this is the issue.
[00:36:12]  And if we do this, it's over.
[00:36:14]  We're not the United States of America anymore.
[00:36:17]  Like this is the end of us.
[00:36:18]  And that's literally what he's saying about New York City.
[00:36:21]  And however you feel about this, it's like he goes, look, we're getting 10,000 a month.
[00:36:30]  And these are people coming over who have nothing.
[00:36:33]  They require tremendous resources, many of whom do not speak the language, do not, you know what I mean?
[00:36:39]  Like, it's just like, what are we doing with them?
[00:36:42]  Where do we put them?
[00:36:43]  And this is literally, it's like this most basic of questions.
[00:36:46]  Like, where do they go?
[00:36:47]  Where are they going to sleep at night?
[00:36:50]  Like, if you say nowhere, then it's on the street.
[00:36:52]  That's not a good answer either.
[00:36:53]  So like, what do we do here?
[00:36:55]  And it's, I don't know.
[00:36:57]  It's just, it's unbelievable that it's almost like once it finally comes, like everybody is so like liberal on this issue until it's in their neighborhood.
[00:37:09]  And then all of a sudden they all become real conservative.
[00:37:12]  Even over at Martha's Vineyard or wherever it was where they shut them down, all of a sudden they don't have, they don't want them there either.
[00:37:18]  You know, it's like, oh, hey, here's a blanket.
[00:37:21]  Enrique, get on a bus and get the hell out of here.
[00:37:25]  I don't know.
[00:37:26]  What are your thoughts, Rob?
[00:37:27]  Well, it's amazing to actually hear a politician confront the problem because more often than not, what they like to do is just pretend it's a non-issue.
[00:37:37]  And Eric, from I remember him actually being on the very humanitarian side of this of going, we're going to do our part to help because that's what's right.
[00:37:46]  And now you're seeing him at his breaking point when he's realizing, oh, this does not work.
[00:37:50]  And I think they already cut services by 5% across like everything in the city to try and free a budget.
[00:37:57]  And this comes on the back of with COVID.
[00:37:59]  New York City got a massive bailout from the government.
[00:38:02]  And I'm sure Biden will try and make efforts to send another bailout to New York City to try and address this as this is his open border policy.
[00:38:11]  But it's incredible to see someone who is, I guess, trying to be more socialist on this issue and is a more progressive mayor finally actually standing up, which is very rare in government and going, the policy's not working.
[00:38:24]  This is a failure and we need to make a change.
[00:38:27]  Well, yeah, I mean, and look, it's just, this just doesn't work.
[00:38:31]  I mean, I think like anybody, anybody who's being like rational about this, if you just look at the, what are the numbers are?
[00:38:38]  I almost want to like look it up right now, but I think I saw at one point, it was 700,000 border apprehensions a month.
[00:38:46]  And those are just the official numbers.
[00:38:47]  Yes, those are just the apprehensions.
[00:38:49]  Yeah.
[00:38:50]  Sorry, go ahead.
[00:38:51]  No, and also it's just the efforts that the Biden administration has taken to seemingly keep the border open.
[00:38:58]  I can just rattle off some of the headlines I've seen.
[00:39:00]  You've had the incident of the floodgates being welded open in Arizona.
[00:39:04]  You also had they put up which seemed like a very practical solution against the cost of the border wall.
[00:39:10]  People were putting up decommissioned like shipping containers and then just wrapping them in barbed wire.
[00:39:17]  And then those had to, which was a very cheap solution to essentially get up a new border wall in Arizona.
[00:39:22]  And that got taken down because apparently it wasn't environmentally friendly.
[00:39:27]  They're now selling off unused border parts for pennies on the dollar because the storage fees were so expensive.
[00:39:34]  It makes more sense to just get rid of the unused border wall as opposed to actually just making use of it.
[00:39:40]  And then, of course, in Texas, even though I'll admit it seemed fairly inhumane to have that obstacle in the river to keep people from crossing.
[00:39:48]  But once again, that was a state trying to make its own arrangements and saying, hey, this is an emergency situation.
[00:39:54]  And they just lost their case and at least at the moment have to take it down.
[00:39:58]  So it appears, and I don't know how many times you've watched myocarditis get in front of Congress and go, it's not an emergency.
[00:40:04]  We understand that it's a problem.
[00:40:06]  And then answer zero questions about it.
[00:40:08]  But it almost seems intentful of the Biden administration to be producing as many people coming over the border as possible, which doesn't make sense.
[00:40:17]  Yeah.
[00:40:18]  Well, I mean, look, I think that there's been a goal, I think, for a long time to kind of flood the country with immigrants.
[00:40:34]  I think in general, I think the ruling elite and big business have an interest in kind of creating conflict and kind of undermining the cohesion of the nation.
[00:40:52]  I'm just looking up the numbers here.
[00:40:54]  It says here there were 2.3 million border apprehensions in 2022.
[00:41:01]  I believe that's drastically up in 2023.
[00:41:05]  Anybody who's thinking rationally about this can look at this and go, oh, this is an issue.
[00:41:10]  This is an issue.
[00:41:12]  By the way, when I say these millions, these are just the border apprehensions.
[00:41:15]  This is not counting.
[00:41:16]  No one knows what the number of people who just get in without being apprehended are.
[00:41:19]  This is millions and millions and millions of people every year who are coming into this country.
[00:41:26]  And these are people coming from poor third world countries who require resources.
[00:41:33]  This is, it's also just a drastic change in demographics, in cultures, in neighborhoods.
[00:41:39]  And like I said, I mean, it's easy for some of these people to talk about it in theory.
[00:41:44]  But when you actually look at what's happening here, like I'm telling you, I know people who live in these neighborhoods and they're like, yo, this is insane.
[00:41:51]  Like they just set up this like migrant shelter down the block from me.
[00:41:54]  And now like you're, there's just like men like sleeping on the streets and shit.
[00:41:59]  They're like partying till late at night.
[00:42:01]  You go, go look.
[00:42:02]  There's some like local news coverage of it where they're just talking about it.
[00:42:04]  It's really disturbing what happens.
[00:42:07]  And this just makes no sense.
[00:42:09]  It does not work.
[00:42:13]  It's interesting.
[00:42:14]  You know, it's like, and this is ultimately why I abandoned my views in open borders because it's just not, it's not actually the correct libertarian position.
[00:42:26]  And it's not, it's not workable.
[00:42:29]  It's a disaster in practice.
[00:42:32]  And it is like, you know, I know I've given this example before, but if like a few homeless people show up and they ring my doorbell and they're like, hey, we're homeless and you got like some extra rooms in this house.
[00:42:48]  Can we, can we stay here?
[00:42:50]  And the answer is going to be no, because this is my house and it's not for you.
[00:42:56]  It's for my wife and kids.
[00:42:59]  So no, you can't come in.
[00:43:00]  And that doesn't mean I hate the homeless people.
[00:43:02]  It doesn't mean I don't feel bad for the homeless people.
[00:43:03]  It doesn't even mean I might not be willing to throw them a few bucks.
[00:43:07]  Maybe.
[00:43:08]  But they can't come in.
[00:43:10]  They can't come in because this isn't theirs and it's not for them.
[00:43:14]  And now, if the government came and they just said, we are seizing your door, that is our door now.
[00:43:23]  This is the government door.
[00:43:26]  And then they go, and we're going to open it.
[00:43:29]  We're going to open it and let all these homeless people come in and sleep in your house.
[00:43:34]  The libertarian position isn't like, yeah, well, I wouldn't want the government to close that door.
[00:43:40]  You know what I mean?
[00:43:41]  It's like, that's that.
[00:43:43]  And even if they also like stole my hallway and my bathroom and they were like, well, that's government property.
[00:43:48]  They won't go in your room.
[00:43:49]  They're just going to go in the government property.
[00:43:50]  It's kind of like, yeah, no, but you only have that because you stole it from me.
[00:43:53]  So no, that's actually not the correct position.
[00:43:55]  The correct position is I get to fucking decide who comes in my house.
[00:44:00]  And the correct position is that America gets to decide who comes into the country.
[00:44:06]  Now, that's not perfect.
[00:44:08]  That's not, I really do think, by the way, the more that the more time that goes on, I really do think the best libertarian position is what Hans Hermann Hoppe had proposed.
[00:44:17]  I think the best you could do to simulate what the libertarian position on immigration is under current situations, because it's very complicated with someone, you know, government runs everything about the borders.
[00:44:31]  But it's the sponsorship idea, but like full sponsorship.
[00:44:37]  Because like when you think about it, if you think about it from the libertarian point of view, right?
[00:44:42]  If you want to be like philosophical about this, I think what the libertarian point of view would say is like, so let's say, let's say you're from Europe or something like that, Rob, and you're my friend and I invite you to come over to my house here in America.
[00:44:57]  And I'm like, hey, come stay with me for a while.

=== The Right to Invite (06:41) ===

[00:45:01]  Well, like, no one has a right to tell me that I can't invite you here.
[00:45:05]  No one has a right to tell you you can't come stay here.
[00:45:07]  You got invited here, right?
[00:45:08]  So I have a right to invite you.
[00:45:09]  You have a right to come.
[00:45:10]  You don't have a right then to make everybody else pay, everyone in my neighborhood pay for your food and health care and shit like that while you stay.
[00:45:22]  So you don't have a right to like impose your costs on other people, but I have a right to invite you.
[00:45:26]  You have a right to come.
[00:45:27]  However, someone who wasn't invited to the country doesn't have a natural right to come into it because it's not property that they own.
[00:45:33]  They don't have a right to just come somewhere that they don't want any more than a homeless person has a right to come into my house.
[00:45:39]  So that's why it's almost like the best simulation would be like, okay, anyone can immigrate to this country as long as they're invited and sponsored by an American.
[00:45:50]  So as long as you're invited and then the person who invites you also has to like vouch that like any cost that is imposed on the taxpayers will be covered by them.
[00:46:03]  You know what I mean?
[00:46:03]  If you have to go to an emergency room for health care, it's on you.
[00:46:07]  If you're sending your kids to public school, they have to pay for it.
[00:46:09]  You know, whatever it is, like that they, so you're, anyone who's invited can come.
[00:46:14]  Nobody who's invited is getting turned away, but also no costs are being imposed on the taxpayers.
[00:46:20]  I think that would be like the closest to what a good immigration system would look like.
[00:46:24]  But then the question becomes, how do we stop all of these people from flooding in to the country?
[00:46:31]  And I got to say, there was one solution that an orange guy with weird hair put forward that does seem like it might be the best, the best one.
[00:46:43]  It seems like governments, I mean, they're in the business of pretending like there aren't problems.
[00:46:48]  And the immigration one is particularly frustrating because it's like we have to make a decision.
[00:46:54]  You got to decide, hey, does the majority of people just want people pouring in?
[00:46:58]  Or who do we want to have coming in?
[00:47:00]  Why should someone become a citizen here?
[00:47:02]  Is it because of skills that they have?
[00:47:04]  Is it because a company wants to hire them?
[00:47:05]  Is it because labor is required?
[00:47:07]  Is it because they're a particularly good person, particularly hot person, good at sports, good at entertainment, nice tits, whatever the hell it is.
[00:47:14]  There's a way to actually decide who do we want to have in this country and what's the process for them to come here.
[00:47:20]  But you have to actually like have that conversation.
[00:47:23]  And if the majority of the country doesn't want people just pouring in over the border, then pretending like that's not happening and not addressing it, you know, it's the game of government.
[00:47:33]  They go, hey, we've got this under control.
[00:47:35]  And then they don't.
[00:47:36]  And then they continue to pretend like they do.
[00:47:38]  And I think the border is a particularly egregious example of them pretending.
[00:47:44]  Just think about, I mean, what's part of the job of government, I guess, is protecting the country.
[00:47:48]  And for at least even prior to the Biden administration and prior to the Trump administration, there were too many illegal immigrants coming over here with an unfair system that if you snuck in, you could have a kid and then your kid is considered a citizen.
[00:48:00]  And that could change voting demographics.
[00:48:02]  That's not really a fair system.
[00:48:04]  It's not something that most people agree to or most people really want, but they were just in the business of, well, let's ignore it while taking the money of keeping their job and pretending like everything's fine.
[00:48:15]  So I guess in a sense, we're starting to get it.
[00:48:18]  This one's coming, going over the tipping point where you seem to be in a position where you can't ignore it anymore, where mayors of even liberal cities are going, guys, we're going to have to address this.
[00:48:28]  Well, it also, it seems like, and I, and I think part of this is like the woke mind virus, you know, that we're just constantly, and it's, and it goes from way before the time that we were using the term woke.
[00:48:41]  It's, it's what people used to call cultural Marxism, but the idea that we kind of, it is, it is like cultural Marxism, the term means a lot of different things to a lot of different people, but it was kind of like the best term because it kind of just really describes what it is.
[00:48:58]  It's like, it's, it's Marxism, like the idea of oppressor versus oppressed classes, which is how Karl Marx like saw all of history.
[00:49:10]  His words, all of history was defined by class wars.
[00:49:15]  And so, but it's that applied to like race, sex, all these different things.
[00:49:19]  But people are so trained to see like, you know, white is oppressor, black is oppressed, straight is oppressor, gay is oppressed, cis is oppressor, trans is oppressed, like all these kind of things.
[00:49:31]  And the mentality always seems to be, and this is very bizarre to me, but the mentality is always like the question is always about like the humanity to the immigrants.
[00:49:41]  So that's always how the conversation is framed.
[00:49:43]  Like, are they separating families?
[00:49:45]  Oh my God, this is horrible.
[00:49:46]  Oh, look how horrible it is.
[00:49:47]  What's happening to the immigrants?
[00:49:48]  Look how horrible it is.
[00:49:49]  Like, you know, how horrible it is to turn people away or whatever.
[00:49:53]  And it's the same thing with like the homelessness crisis, which is a major crisis in America.
[00:50:00]  And the conversation is always about like what they're going through and where can we put them?
[00:50:08]  What can we give them?
[00:50:09]  And I find something, there's something truly bizarre in it where it's like, wait, what about like being concerned about us?
[00:50:17]  Is that okay?
[00:50:19]  Like, like, why is it when why am I supposed to be like when I see, say, in San Francisco or Los Angeles, and you see these people like, you know, like doing drugs, being just crazy people all over the streets?
[00:50:34]  Like, my initial concern is for like the children in that community who have to walk through that.
[00:50:41]  Now, I'm not saying I have no concern for those people on the street.
[00:50:44]  Like, that, that sucks.
[00:50:45]  And okay, that's a fair conversation to be had.
[00:50:48]  But why on earth am I supposed to prioritize my concern for them over like my concern for like the people who are like are working are productive members of society who have like a wife and kids in this neighborhood who now have to deal with the fact that this is out on the streets while their wife and kids have to walk through these streets.
[00:51:10]  I just much, that is much higher on my list of priorities.
[00:51:14]  And again, it's horrible the conditions a lot of these immigrants are trying to escape and what they're going through.
[00:51:19]  And I wish them nothing but the best.
[00:51:21]  But my number one priority here is like, hey, let's not like destroy New York City.
[00:51:27]  That seems like it won't be good.
[00:51:30]  Let's let's not destroy New York City because then nobody has it.
[00:51:34]  That doesn't help anyone.
[00:51:36]  It's very bizarre to me that that isn't just obviously the priority to everyone.

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[00:51:44]  There was a, I can't remember who it was, but there was some liberal woman who told a story about like a crazy schizophrenic homeless man like punching her in the face on the train.
[00:51:58]  And she was telling the story and she was like, now keep in mind, like this was a mentally ill person and blah, blah, blah.
[00:52:03]  We need to, I was trying, we need to, you know, help him in the most humanitarian way possible.
[00:52:07]  I'm like, wait, what?
[00:52:09]  Like, why, why is helping a schizophrenic person more important than protecting women from being violently assaulted?
[00:52:17]  Isn't that like, they can both be things that we want to do, but why does that one come first?
[00:52:25]  Doesn't make sense to me.
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=== Anti-Semitic Accusations (05:31) ===

[00:54:08]  Any other thoughts on this, Rob?
[00:54:10]  Or we should, we got, I think we got one more thing I wanted to hit.
[00:54:13]  Let's do one more.
[00:54:14]  This one, you sent me this one, Rob.
[00:54:17]  This isn't going to help our people any.
[00:54:20]  This is not going to move.
[00:54:21]  This is not going to move it forward.
[00:54:22]  But there's been a lot of talk about the ADL recently.
[00:54:25]  And so, of course, they had one of their, I'm not sure exactly what's this guy's position.
[00:54:29]  Does he run the ADL?
[00:54:30]  He's the CEO.
[00:54:32]  Jonathan Greenblatt, isn't that his name?
[00:54:34]  Used to work with Obama.
[00:54:35]  Uh-huh.
[00:54:36]  All right.
[00:54:37]  So here he is on CNBC.
[00:54:40]  Let's just go to it.
[00:54:42]  A question, because I know this has been a critique of your organization and of many.
[00:54:47]  Were you seeking to have some kind of either role at Twitter or any kind of donations made or other things?
[00:54:53]  No.
[00:54:54]  I only say that because there have been folks who've looked at these situations and felt that they were being shaken down.
[00:55:00]  Look, I think, let me be honest about that, right?
[00:55:03]  I think it is a sort of anti-Semitic trope to suggest when Jewish people express a degree of outrage over anti-Semitism that somehow that's a shakedown because Jews are greedy.
[00:55:14]  That sounds to me.
[00:55:16]  I'm not saying you believe.
[00:55:18]  I'm just saying that that is the occasionally hear the critique among not-for-profits in certain cases that are involved in certain causes that talk to companies and they hear it from leaders who say, I feel like I hear that.
[00:55:32]  But like my view on all of this, we've talked about this before on this show.
[00:55:36]  I don't believe in, and this is really to you, Joe.
[00:55:38]  I don't believe in cancel culture.
[00:55:39]  I believe in council culture.
[00:55:41]  So someone makes a mistake to help them fix it.
[00:55:43]  So what we've tried to do over the years with Twitter, with YouTube, with Facebook and all of its platforms.
[00:55:50]  Oh my God.
[00:55:50]  This guy is such a Jew.
[00:55:56]  Oh, my God.
[00:55:56]  It's just...
[00:55:57]  I'm talking about you being Jewy and complaining and taking money and Jewy things.
[00:56:05]  We love the Jewish people.
[00:56:06]  We love the Jewish people.
[00:56:07]  These are our people.
[00:56:08]  I don't like people like that.
[00:56:09]  I'll just say it.
[00:56:11]  Yeah.
[00:56:11]  No, I don't like people like that either.
[00:56:13]  It's just also, it's intensely dishonest.
[00:56:16]  It's unbelievable.
[00:56:17]  First off, it's like shameless.
[00:56:20]  Me?
[00:56:21]  I would with money.
[00:56:23]  It's like the level, it's like ambulance chaser level of sleaziness.
[00:56:27]  You know what I mean?
[00:56:28]  Because first off, he just goes, his response is, that's an anti-Semitic trope.
[00:56:34]  Like, it's like the only speed they have is to call everything anti-Semitic.
[00:56:39]  It's actually anti-Semitic that you would ask if we were trying to get money.
[00:56:41]  We're just commenting when we see anti-Semitism, anti-Semite, anti-Semite.
[00:56:46]  That's just your only response to everything.
[00:56:49]  And it makes no sense.
[00:56:50]  There was nothing anti-Semitic about the question.
[00:56:52]  And in fact, evidently the ADL does this all the time.
[00:56:56]  So Glenn Greenwald was just reporting about this and he posted like all the links and shit too.
[00:57:01]  But he literally said this.
[00:57:02]  I'm reading Glenn Greenwald's tweet.
[00:57:03]  Glenn Greenwald is debatably the best journalist of the 21st century.
[00:57:07]  But this is Glenn Greenwald's tweet.
[00:57:09]  When NBA star Kyrie Irving clicked like on a book with anti-Semitic tropes, the ADL swooped in, took the lead in the accusations, and it was only resolved when both Irving and the Nets agreed to donate $500,000 to the ADL.
[00:57:27]  This is what they do.
[00:57:28]  This is what they do.
[00:57:29]  They call you anti-Semitic, and then they go, you know, we'll stop calling you anti-Semitic if you give us money.
[00:57:38]  Don't tell me that's a Jew, that's a trope, an anti-Semitic trope.
[00:57:41]  That's what your organization does.
[00:57:43]  Yes, that would be unfair to accuse Jewish people of doing.
[00:57:47]  I'm Jewish.
[00:57:47]  And if you accused me of doing that, that would be unfair.
[00:57:50]  But that's because I don't do that.
[00:57:53]  You do do that.
[00:57:55]  So it's not anti-Semitic to question you about that.
[00:57:58]  Imagine, dude, imagine the nerve of someone questioning you about something that you regularly do and then saying you're a bigot.
[00:58:09]  You're a bigot for even asking me about that.
[00:58:12]  Next question.
[00:58:14]  I don't believe in cancel culture.
[00:58:15]  I believe in counsel culture.
[00:58:17]  When someone makes a mistake, you hope, you help them, you counsel them, Rob.
[00:58:21]  And our method of counseling you is to target your advertisers so that you have less money.
[00:58:29]  But you could always just pay us money.
[00:58:31]  That'll make the problem go away.
[00:58:33]  Like what, how is that counsel culture?
[00:58:36]  You're trying to ruin people.
[00:58:37]  They intentionally, they have lists of people who they want silenced.
[00:58:40]  That is counsel culture by definition.
[00:58:43]  That's what when we all say cancel culture, we mean what you guys are doing.
[00:58:48]  That's what we're talking about.
[00:58:49]  You are for that.
[00:58:51]  It's, oh, God.
[00:58:52]  Yeah, it's just disgusting, man.
[00:58:54]  And again, like I said before, like we said on the other episode, if you were trying to get people to be anti-Semitic, I couldn't see a better, here's your, here's your spokesman.
[00:59:03]  Go for it.
[00:59:05]  Please, for the sake of my people, for me and Rob and all the good Jews out there, and there's a lot of us, for all of us, can these people please go away?
[00:59:16]  Please.
[00:59:17]  And grow some hair.
[00:59:18]  I'm trying to blend in.
[00:59:19]  Jesus, you're ruining my whole disguise here.
[00:59:23]  Hell yeah.
[00:59:24]  All right.
[00:59:25]  That's it.
[00:59:25]  That'll be our show for today.
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[00:59:40]  No