Dave Smith and Robbie Bernstein dissect the media's selective outrage over Donald Trump's indictment versus Joe Biden's alleged Ukraine bribery, citing Chuck Schumer's 2017 admission of deep state suppression. They contrast Trump's document charges with Biden's potential $5 million bribe from Burisma, linking it to the Yanukovych overthrow while noting the FBI's years-long inaction on similar evidence. The hosts argue this "anarcho-tyranny" enforces laws only against political enemies, framing the entire narrative as a manufactured soap opera where both sides exploit corruption claims without substantive proof. [Automatically generated summary]
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All right.
So let's get into it today.
The big things going on are the fallout from Donald Trump's indictment.
It's been fascinating to watch.
We spent the last episode talking about this, but we're going to talk a little bit more about what's happened since then, how the media is covering all this.
We're also going to talk about some of the implications of Joe Biden's potential crimes.
So we'll get into all that stuff today.
But I think in order to really understand what's going on with Donald Trump, not just right now, not just this current indictment, but what's been going on with Donald Trump throughout his presidential campaign, his entire presidency, and his post-presidency, there's one moment that is the most important moment to go back to, to really understand this thing through the proper lens.
And this is, we've played this clip before on the show, but it's been years.
And so I think it's worth it to play it again.
And this is one of the best moments, if not the best moment, in the history of cable news.
There are moments sometimes where in between all of the bullshit, someone either gets caught off guard or they're just a little too naive.
Usually it comes from the younger people, like the younger senators or a newer reporter who just says the thing out loud that you're not supposed to say.
Just says that they're like, oh, I didn't realize that was, we weren't supposed to say that part.
It reminds me of Chris Murphy, Senator Chris Murphy.
He was on C-SPAN once a few years ago.
And he was one of the guys who was real instrumental in the Madon revolution, the coup there in Ukraine in 2014.
But he was like the young guy there.
It was like McCain and Lindsey Graham and Victoria Newland, like the old school Warhawks.
And then him, this junior senator was kind of along there too.
And he was on C-SPAN and he just blurted out at one point.
He goes, I mean, it was our policies that overthrew the Yanukovych government.
I mean, it's like we are like, if it wasn't for us, he never would have been overthrown.
And as you can just tell, it's this moment where you're like, oh, no one told you, dude.
You're not supposed to say that.
But it's refreshing because it's like, oh, okay, we got a little truth there.
All right, fine.
What he was supposed to say was the will of the people who preferred freedom to the old guard.
Yeah, something like that.
And it's funny, like even years later, where people will be arguing with me.
That was not a U.S.-backed coup.
It's like, well, the senator involved certainly seems to think his policies are the ones that got Yanukovich overthrown.
Anyway, what was unique about this one was that this wasn't one of the young guys.
This wasn't one of the new kids on the block, so to speak.
This was the most powerful senator in the United States of America.
And he was on Rachel Maddow's show.
You're going to have to take yourself back to January of 2017.
Donald Trump has been elected, but he has not yet been sworn in.
He is the president-elect.
And Chuck Schumer's on Rachel Maddow's show, and he's just saying his usual nonsense, you know, canned responses, blah, blah, blah, all the stuff that they say.
And then Rachel Maddow goes off script.
She brings something up to him right away, right off the top.
And you can see, you can tell as you watch this, that this part wasn't scripted because he's presented with something on the spot.
Let's go back to January 2017 and play this clip.
Opportunity.
So I am, I was distraught right after the election, but I'm now actually invigorated by the challenge and our ability to succeed in this challenge.
Let me ask you, I don't know if you have seen this.
I don't want to blindside you with this.
This is the latest statement, latest tweet, as you were just saying.
President-elect's latest unsolicited pronouncement on the intelligence community.
This was his tweet just a little while ago tonight.
And you see the scare quotes there.
The intelligence briefing on so-called Russian hacking was delayed until Friday.
Perhaps more time needed to build a case.
Very strange.
We're actually told, intelligence sources tell NBC News since this tweet has been posted that actually this intelligence briefing for the president-elect was always planned for Friday.
It hasn't been delayed.
But he's taking these shots, this antagonism, this taunting to the intelligence community.
You take on the intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.
So even for a practical, supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he's being really dumb to do this.
What do you think the intelligence community would do if they were moving?
I don't know, but from what I am told, they are very upset with how he has treated them and talked about them.
And we need the intelligence community.
We don't know what's going on.
Look at the Russian hacking.
Without the intelligence community, we wouldn't have discovered it.
Do you think he has an agenda to try to dismantle parts of the intelligence community?
I mean, this form of whether you're a super liberal Democrat or a very conservative Republican, you should be against dismantling the intelligence community.
Senator Charles.
All right, man.
I mean, doesn't that just say it all?
What a fascinating thing to just broadcast on air.
There's like, well, I mean, the president can't be critical of the intelligence agencies.
You can't criticize these guys.
They'll totally screw you.
They have six ways to Sunday to screw you.
And the funny thing about it is that he was right.
Chuck Schumer was telling the truth in that moment.
And then he goes on, which is really quite something to be like, look, the most liberal Democrat to the most conservative conservative has to be for the intelligence community.
That is it right there.
That is the allowable range of opinion.
Okay.
You can be as liberal as you want to or as conservative as you want to, but you dare not question the CIA.
That's American politics in a nutshell for you.
But this should always be something that people keep in mind with all of this stuff.
How all of it's covered, how Donald Trump is prosecuted, how Donald Trump was labeled and smeared during his presidency.
This was told to you by the most powerful senator in America in a very clear off-the-cuff moment where Rachel Meadow breaks and goes, hey, look, I don't mean to like jump on you with this, but look at this latest tweet.
And he's just got to respond immediately, like what he actually thinks, not give his canned, these are my talking points for this interview.
And that's what he had to say.
I think it's a good thing to keep in mind when you think about all this stuff.
Got to side with the deep state.
If you want to keep your job said, live on news.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
And then he goes, how will they?
It's pretty funny too, just the.
If you remember what the actual like little spat was over there was this claim that Russia hacked, as they would say, our elections, which of course they use that term intentionally because it evokes like this image of like, oh, you mean they hacked the machines?
Like they broke into the machines and flipped votes, but that was never even the accusation.
The only thing I think that ever came of this was that bot farm that they found where someone had spent like, I think a few thousand dollars on Facebook bots and some of them were pro-Hillary, some of them were pro-Trump.
It's not even clear.
And the guy who owned the company had once been at a dinner with Vladimir Putin.
Like they never even made a connection that came from Putin's government.
They just like, and even if it did, it was nothing.
It wasn't hacking the election.
It was like just absolutely nothing.
But so that's what Donald Trump is talking about.
And he's going, I don't know, they're delaying my intelligence briefs now about this stuff.
That's pretty strange that they won't just tell me what happened because as president-elect, you get intelligence briefs.
And then Chuck Schumer goes, I mean, if we didn't have the intelligence community, we wouldn't even know about the Russia hacking.
Like that was his proof.
Like this type of circular logic.
I mean, like, look how, look, look how obviously necessary they are.
Cause if it wasn't for them, we wouldn't know about this story that's in dispute.
But now we know it's true because they said it's true.
And the proof that it's true is that they said so.
Oh, all right.
Now imagine being Rachel Maddow, who was once supposed to be a lefty, just sitting there and having the most powerful senator tell you this.
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And you just nod along and go, yeah, good.
They're going to get the guy we don't like.
So this has been the mission from the very beginning, has been to get Donald Trump.
Did they get him this time?
It's quite possible.
I think it is quite possible that this is the thing that gets him.
But let's just be clear that they've been trying to get him this entire time.
And the only reason why this might be the thing that gets him is because he's the one they want to get.
There's plenty of other politicians who are guilty of this and far, far worse.
The Justice Department is not cracking down on any of them, but they are on Donald Trump.
And this is ultimately why.
This is what it was all about.
He had the nerve to mock and ridicule and perhaps even hint at opposing the deep state.
That's the whole thing for you right there.
Chuck Schumer said so.
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Okay.
So now, picking up where we kind of left off in the last episode, Rob, what have you thought about kind of the fallout over the last 48 hours from the news that Trump's been indicted?
Well, they're still doing this cartoonish thing on the left networks where they won't even cover it.
You know, we're told her now, and even actual information can't be shown to us because that might persuade us in the other direction.
And so we can't see the actual information.
We're not allowed to see it.
Donald Trump speaking, you can't see that.
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And then the suppression of while we're yelling about the rule of law and the entire court case about Donald Trump is that he had documents and did nothing with them.
And they were documents that he had while he was in office.
So whatever this incredible danger is has still yet to be explained.
It's just that he violated the rule of law.
That's the horrible thing is he violated the rule of law.
And while that same story is happening, we have more and more evidence showing up of the possibility that Joe Biden was bribed while he was vice president.
Definitive proof?
Maybe.
I'm not even sure.
But I'm just trying to say, if you're going to have a conversation here about the crimes of president and the dangers of their actions, you can't even compare the possibility of Joe Biden having been outright bribed and not just being bribed, but actually talking about it with pride in front of an entire audience of, look at what I was able to do while I was vice president.
And there's zero conversation about that while yelling about this horrible instance of Donald Trump who held on to documents and didn't return them on time.
Yeah.
Well, we'll get more into the media coverage of this situation with Biden in a second, but you're absolutely right about all of that.
Here, let's go to just to get a little taste of some of the media coverage of the Donald Trump indictment.
Let's let's check back in with our good friends here over at Rachel Maddow show.
So who knows what's going to happen?
But if this is as strong a case as the indictment makes it look, right?
And that that's the prosecution's best case.
It'll it'll get challenged in court.
It'll be a it'll be a, you know, an adversarial process.
We'll see how strong the defense is.
But if the indictment is that strong and the Justice Department is going to treat this as a like case compared to other people who have been charged under the Espionage Act for mishandling classified information, then he is looking at jail time.
And what would Donald Trump do to avoid jail time?
I guess I literally suppose that he would do anything.
And if it's going to come to him avoiding jail time, now that this indictment exists, he's either going to have to win in court, defending yourself against these charges by saying, yes, I did it is not a great defense.
And so how else can you avoid jail time?
Well, you can plead in exchange for lenience.
And we've seen lots of people, including Reality Winner, a very high-profile case, plead in exchange for lenience and still get jail time.
What can he offer prosecutors other than his confession, his cooperation?
I mean, this is a crime he could only commit because he was in high public office.
Spiro Agnew used that as a get out of jail free card.
It was not just that he was vice president.
It was that prosecutors assumed he was about to become president because Nixon was teetering.
They were right.
And in order to keep Agnew out at it, they traded him essentially jail time for his resignation.
I'm not saying that's what the DOJ should agree to.
I'm not saying that's what Trump should try for or that what his defense should offer it.
I'm not even saying if it would be good or bad for the country.
I'm just saying the one other time we've dealt with this as a country, that's how we did it.
There you have another fascinating admission right from Rachel Maddow.
She is, I'll tell you, she does get real news, just not the way she thinks.
But so here it is, then this is what it's all about.
And of course, we all knew this, right?
That this is really what it's all about.
You go, look, Donald Trump's only got one thing that he can deal.
And that's that he won't run.
That's it.
That's what they want.
Now, they can't legally enforce that, but they could accept that as a deal in exchange for no prison time.
That shouldn't actually be a deal.
Usually when you cut a deal, it's, hey, I'm going to give up other people that committed a crime.
I'm going to stop doing a crime.
I'm actually going to repay what I stole.
I'm going to give you information about other people.
I'm going to tell you where I have money stashed away, where I have drugs stashed away.
I'm going to give you something where you can argue at least, oh, you're taking more drugs off the street.
You're getting more criminals off the street.
You're doing something.
Why would the prosecutors even want that from him?
But then again, the answer kind of tells you what it is.
It's that, yes, that's actually what they want.
And that this is all.
It shouldn't be on the table as the fact that that's on the table as bargaining leverage just shows the fact that this is a corrupt system that just doesn't want him to run for president.
That shouldn't be like, it's one thing.
Like if you create, if you do fraud in a particular industry, sometimes they'll bar it like they want an admission.
You won't go to jail and you're barred from continuing to work in that industry.
Maybe that doesn't even exist.
I might just be getting that from the movie Tin Min when the guy loses his license.
Great movie.
But I feel like that's a thing where you get barred like from your license because they don't want you to do more harm in the field.
Right.
In this instance, there was no harm.
Not in the field.
The harm was.
While he was president, there were no issues there.
And guess what?
Even when he left with the information, no one's claiming that he leaked the information or did any damages.
They're just saying that he wasn't compliant.
Yes, there doesn't even seem to be a complaint that it was a problem that he left with it.
They're just saying that when we asked for it back, he didn't give it back fast enough.
That's essentially what this all means.
Well, just to be, I'm classifying it that way because one of the major distinctions between the fact that they let both Joe Biden off the hook and that they let Mike Pence off the hook was that upon requesting the documents, they were returned to them.
And you actually pointed out, which I hadn't even thought about, was that the vice presidents and senators aren't even allowed to keep the information.
Only the president would have the power to declassify it.
But the point is, so if the only distinction is that they were compliant, then the real crime you're saying here is non-compliance.
It's not leaving with documents because you're not prosecuting people for leaving with documents.
And as Brian just correctly like noted, what a lot of people are saying is like, oh, well, he could have sold them or he could have done this.
He could have given them out to other people.
But that doesn't really deal with Rob's central point here, which is that, yeah, but he always could have.
That was true when he was president too.
He could have sold them.
He could have given them away.
He could, that all of a sudden now, because he's ex-president, this becomes some type of threat or danger.
It just doesn't make any sense.
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But so here you have on Rachel, on Rachel Maddow's show, right?
Like the same woman.
who just six years ago had the most powerful senator in the United States tell her that the intelligence community is going to get this guy is now going, oh, okay.
And we got him for a charge where we never charge any of these other people for this exact same crime.
And by the way, the deal should be that he can't run for president again.
Like they're so blinded by their hatred of Donald Trump and their belief that if they just get Donald Trump, then they get rid of the entire problem.
The entire problem being that more and more, you know, well over half of the people in this country hate your fucking guts and don't trust you and way more than that are just never interested in listening to you.
They think that problem goes away when they get Donald Trump.
And so they're so blinded by that that they really don't even think about the implications of what they're saying.
Like how like profound an admission all of this is.
Oh, so that's what it's about, making sure he's not president again.
I also hate their categorization of what the Trump defense is, that they both just laugh.
Oh, so he's going to show up in court and say, yeah, I did it.
Well, yeah, he's going to say, yeah, I did it.
And I'm allowed to do it because they have the Presidential Records Act.
And when Bill Clinton left with tapes, he just left with them.
They tried to collect them and a ruling was made that a president has the sole authority of deciding what's his personal materials and the state doesn't then want to have to sift through it and make a determination.
I mean, that was the prior ruling.
And what he's actually getting seemingly penalized for is the treason act of whatever.
I just in an episode of Run Your Mouth with Gary Richard, who's a historian, said that, I mean, that goes back like 100 years.
And literally, it seems to me like any government action would be in violation of that technical law.
That seems to almost be the fail-safe law in the books that if you wanted to prosecute someone for being against the deep state, that's your fail-safe because any conversation you have with a foreign power about anything that you're doing in office would seemingly be in violation of that law.
So literally every action that a president ever does or anyone seemingly when talking to another country would be in violation of the technical way that that of that law.
And so the fact that you haven't seen a lot more people being prosecuted by it, that's, it seems like that is the law, the fail safe on the books, that if you want to find someone guilty of something, oh, well, then we got this treason law.
This is the way, um, this is the way government works in general and the way out of control governments work.
Um, there, there was a, um, a book about this.
I can't remember.
I read this.
It was like 15 years ago or something like that.
There was a book about like, uh, I think he concluded that the average American commits, I can't remember, it was like four or six felonies a day.
Like if you actually look at all the laws on the book, we're like always all committing.
You can't exist and operate in this world without breaking some type of laws.
And this is true from the federal government all the way down to local governments.
Like I remember I was joking around about this when I did a, I had a stand-up show two years ago at a Freedom Fest and they did it in South Dakota because it was like the only state that had no COVID restrictions.
There was never any mandates or lockdowns in South Dakota.
And I was there and it was at, there was like a bar.
It's impossible to not socially distance there.
They're like, we're doing it.
We've been doing it forever.
So we're fine.
But so we're at this bar where like the stand-up comedy show was and it's like a, it was an all-beer bar.
And then they were like, oh, like next door is a whiskey bar.
If you want to grab a whiskey, you can go over there.
So I go next door and I grab a whiskey.
And then as I was walking back and I'm not even like in the thing, I was just going into the green room.
And they were like, yep, that's it.
Three felonies a day.
That's the book right there.
Thank you.
Dershowitz, I believe, wrote it.
Okay.
So anyway, so I'm going back to the back into the green room, not even out into like the club.
I was going back into the green room and the pouncer from the bar was like, oh, you can't bring the whiskey back there.
Like you have to finish it here.
And I was like, this is the freest state in the country.
And this is what it got.
Like, there's just, you know, you know this, like if you ever see, and I've been at businesses at comedy clubs in the city before when like the inspectors come from the city and when they come to inspect you, everyone, every single restaurant, club, everything is guilty of a million infractions.
It's just the guy chooses what, how much of it we want to enforce today.
And whether that guy had a good day or a bad day determines whether you owe 2,000 bucks or 30,000 bucks.
Just that's it.
There's no business.
You know, they have like these things where like they'll go in the basement and find like if they find mouse droppings or something like that, then that's a fine.
And you're like, it's a basement in New York City.
There's not one that exists where you can't find something.
You know what I mean?
Like it's anyway.
So this is kind of the way this works.
You have laws on top of laws on top of laws, regulations on top of regulations, on top of regulations.
And then for the most part, they're not enforced because none of us could literally move from point A to point B if they were.
But anytime they decide they feel like enforcing one of them, they can.
And this is where you get kind of this anarcho-tyranny, where you have this, this kind of this system where in certain, at certain times, it's not enforced at all.
And then at other times, it can be enforced.
And then whoever is wielding the power gets to decide when to enforce it.
And so as we've said about this with Donald Trump before, it's like every single president of my lifetime could very easily be tried and convicted and sentenced to life in prison at a maximum security prison without the possibility of parole at best.
You know, very easily.
All it would take is the political will.
If anybody, if right now the powers that be decided, you know what?
We want to come after George W. Bush.
It would be incredibly easy to go after him for a litany of crimes that he committed.
Same with Obama, same with Bill Clinton, same with any president that you could think of.
And so now the other part of this is that that's not actually a solid legal defense for Donald Trump.
And in some senses, I think that Rachel Maddow and Joey Reed there are on to something where if they like the way this whole thing works is that once you go like one, the same way as that inspector who comes into the comedy club and goes, I found mouse droppings in your basement, that's a fine of $10,000.
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And you can't go, yeah, but dude, all of the basements have mouse droppings.
It's impossible not to, it's impossible to every single time a mouse shits in New York City, pick up the fucking droppings immediately.
Like, what do you want me to do?
And they're like, yeah, but that's not a defense.
That's not a legit defense.
They go, this is the rule.
And I found it.
So that's that.
And so legally, I don't know how great a defense that is for Donald Trump.
But in terms of human beings who are thinking about this and want to understand the world that we live in, yeah, that's what's going on here.
Clearly, this guy is being targeted.
And why is that?
Well, Chuck Schumer already told you why that is.
So that's basically what we got going on here.
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All right, let's switch gears here and talk about the Joe Biden situation a little bit.
This has been developing for a while now.
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The House has been doing their investigations.
Of course, there was an FBI whistleblower who has, I guess, been in communication with the House Republicans as they investigate this matter.
Chuck Grassley, Senator Chuck Grassley, gave a speech about this just recently.
So let's play that and then we can discuss.
I'm on this Senate floor.
I think I told my fellow senators that what's so unusual about an unclassified document being given to the public when I think it was May the 18th of this year,
there was leaked to the New York Times a classified document and even the name of a confidential human source.
So we're kind of in a strange situation here.
Classified document can be leaked to the New York Times, but an unclassified document can't be made public to 300 million Americans if they're interested in reading it.
Now, accordingly, Congress still lacks a full and complete picture with respect to what that document really says.
That's why it's important that the document be made public without unnecessary redactions for the American people to see.
Can you believe redacting an unclassified document?
So now, let me assist for the purposes of more transparency on this subject.
The 1023 produced to the House committees redacted reference that the Foreign National who allegedly bribed Joe and Hunter Biden allegedly has audio recordings of his conversation with them.
17 such recordings.
According to the 1023, the Foreign National possesses 15 audio recordings of phone calls between him and Hunter Biden.
According to the 1023, the Foreign National possesses two audio recordings of phone calls between him and then Vice President Joe Biden.
These recordings were allegedly kept as a sort of insurance policy for the Foreign National in case that he got into a tight spot.
The 1023 also indicates that then Vice President Joe Biden may have been involved in Burma Burujmi employing Hunter Biden.
Based on the facts known to the Congress and the public, it's clear that the Justice Department, the FBI, haven't nearly had the same laser focus on the Biden family.
Special Counsel Jack Smith has used a recording against former President Trump.
Well, what is U.S. Attorney Weiss doing with respect to these alleged Joe and Hunter Biden recordings that are apparently relevant to the high-stakes bribery scheme?
Getting a full and complete 1023 is critical for the American people to know and understand the true nature of the document and to hold the Justice Department and the FBI accountable.
It's also important for asserting congressional constitutional congressional oversight powers against an out-of-control executive branch, obviously drunk with political infection.
Remember, Congress has received 1023s in the past, and they've been made public.
So asking for this 1023 to be turned over to the American people to read is not an unusual thing that goes on with 1023s.
Congress owes it to the American people and the brave and heroic whistleblowers to continue to fight for transparency in this matter and make this document public without unnecessary redactions.
And I want everybody to remember that I have read the unredacted version, except for a couple or three half-inch redactions, I'd say.
Thank you very much.
All right.
So that was Senator Chuck Grassley, who's not exactly known as like a bomb thrower.
It does seem that someone like this kind of establishment milquetoast type being like, yo, we really need to see this document because there seems to be very strong evidence that the president of the United States was taking bribes while vice president, by the way, from Ukraine, which is a pretty relevant player today.
I got to say, I've never, you know, I've always, let's just say I've been cautiously optimistic, emphasis on cautiously and not on optimistic, that anything is going to come from any of these congressional investigations.
But it does seem like this is heating up a little bit.
And I don't know if we'll ever end up seeing these documents, but this is this is getting pretty wild.
Any thoughts on this, Rob?
Yeah, it seems like typically these guys do a better job of hiding their dirty dealings and that usually the payments come in more seemingly legitimate forms of getting paid for on book deals, getting paid for on cable channels that are granted to you.
Well, and in legal forms.
Yeah, however creepy we might feel about it, it's legal.
Well, in this case, there might have been a legal payment made to Joe.
Well, I guess, no, if it was legally sent to Hunter to then be given to Joe, that that would probably be illegal.
But it seems as though typically these guys do a better job of covering their ass in terms of what their payments are when they get out of office.
They get to go on these speech tours.
All of a sudden, people that they did favors for giving them $200,000 a speech, which makes no sense.
I mean, just think about a Fed official getting everything wrong for a decade, getting every estimation about where inflation's going wrong publicly in every single newspaper getting literally their job wrong, and then a financial institution spending $200,000 to hear their opinion on stuff for an hour.
That's clearly a bribe payment.
Anyways, going back to the Bidens over here, it seems like there's some solid evidence here in that you've got, one, you had the laptop, you've got conversation about the big guy, you've got someone who confirmed that Joe Biden was the big guy.
Then we actually had Joe Biden on, we have the recording of him in front of a live audience saying, hey, I held up this payment until they said that they were going to fire the prosecutor.
The storyline makes sense.
There's a prosecutor, could be dirty over there, trying to get in the way of the Burisma dealings.
Burisma hires Hunter for protection.
Joe literally goes over there and goes, look, I said I was going to hold up their aid unless they got rid of the prosecutor.
Makes sense why you get a $10 million payment for that.
Now, supposedly, we got an FBI document that verifies the fact that he was bribed and apparently phone calls that have been taped that were supposed to be blackmail.
All of this at least seems like enough that the entire system would be talking about it, reporting on it, and doing an investigation, especially when you compare it to the potential even claims of what Donald Trump has committed versus what we seem to have firm evidence or at least enough that you would make an inquiry.
Well, look, I mean, a few things to keep in mind here, and we'll get more into the comparison in a second because I got another great clip for us to play.
But what even stepping back from like what's illegal or illegal or what could be proven in a court of law, just as human beings here talking about this, it is overwhelmingly clear at this point that this is legit and that Joe Biden was straight up taking bribes.
I mean, look, even just starting with, as you just kind of rattled off there, that we have, since having Hunter Biden's laptop, that Russian disinformation, we know that Hunter Biden was taking money from these companies, that he was put on boards of companies like Burisma, which makes no sense.
He had no industry experience and didn't speak the language.
There was no need for Burisma was not benefiting at all from having an American crackhead on their board.
That's just the fact.
It's obviously because he's Biden's son.
So we know he's taking money from these Chinese companies and this Ukrainian company and that he's getting this money because his last name's Biden.
He himself even admits this.
That's why they were hiring me.
Biden's response to this when this comes out is that he had nothing to do.
He had no knowledge of any of his son's business dealings and that they never spoke about it.
That's what he first says.
That's been proven wrong now because we actually know that some of them came to the White House when he was the vice president.
And so then you have these references in Hunter Biden's emails, many, many references to the big guy who gets 10%.
Now, the big guy, who could this be referring to?
Who else would be the big guy who's getting 10% of the money?
Oh, and Hunter Biden's business partner, Bobolinski, he confirms it is Joe Biden.
Said as much to the media and to the FBI.
Says that he's met with Joe Biden over and over.
Now you have an FBI whistleblower coming out and saying, not only is all of that true, but that the person making the payments has recordings of himself with Joe Biden and with Hunter Biden, that he was keeping them.
You said it's blackmail, but it seems more like a potential blackmail, kind of an insurance policy that if he needed to, he could have some leverage over them.
I mean, what other explanation makes this all fit?
Other than that, in fact, Joe Biden was the big guy.
It's the overwhelming evidence is pointing in this direction.
And the other thing, which I know people have probably heard me say before, but is worth mentioning again, is that this is why it plays very interesting into the biggest story in the world right now, which is this war in Ukraine, is that this is there's a reason why Burisma was bribing Joe Biden.
And it's because Joe Biden was the point man on Ukraine.
Joe Biden, if you remember from the Victoria Newland phone call, was the one who was going to get on the phone to give him an attaboy for executing this coup.
And so Burisma was a crony energy company that was in bed with the Yanukovych government.
And then the U.S. led a coup to overthrow the Yanukovych government.
So now all of a sudden, if you could imagine, try to imagine like Goldman Sachs and the government of the U.S. government's overthrown and the Federal Reserve System and all of it.
And they're sitting there going, oh, that's our whole business model is that we're in bed with the government.
So like, what do we do now?
And you want to get in good with the new government.
That would be the rent.
And so rather than bribing the new government, which they may have made attempts to do also, I'm not sure.
But they went right to the source.
They just decided to bribe the sitting vice president.
We'll put your kid on the board.
We'll give him a ton of money.
And I guess even give you a ton of money.
So this is not just Joe Biden taking a bribe.
It's directly related to policy as well, right?
It's directly related.
And now, of course, the other thing that makes this so huge is that, so what we're looking at here, and I guess this is not exactly proven yet, but there certainly seems to be some evidence pointing in this direction.
What we're looking at here is now Joe Biden taking bribes from Ukrainian companies that are very much in bed with the current Ukrainian government,
taking money from Ukraine while the biggest thing that he's doing as president is sending hundreds of billions of dollars to a proxy war of choice on Russia's border in defense of Ukraine.
So it's not just that you have a bribe, it's that you have a bribe with a policy, an incredibly dangerous policy that benefits the source of who's bribing you and who also evidently perhaps has blackmail material on you.
I mean, if all of this is true, what you're looking at here is an enormous scandal.
Like an enormous scandal with risks associated with it that are unrivaled by any political scandal in world history.
You've got a proxy war between two nuclear superpowers on one of their borders as a result of this.
So this is the type of thing, if this is all right, that might even get an old, you know, centrist milquetoast guy like Senator Chuck Grassley to be like, ah, we actually got to look into this.
This is actually pretty nutty.
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They need some like new court of law that when the FBI or others are claiming that it's going to harm human sources on the ground or that they can't comment because it is in regards to an ongoing investigation, that should have to go through some sort of a vetting system where someone goes yes or no, because they seem to have a couple stock answers that just allows them to get out of any situation.
And one of them is always the, well, if we give over that information, it's going to harm like the same way the Donald Trump documents that no one saw are going to harm people.
You know what I mean?
It's just too loose of a claim that just fits every single situation.
Yeah.
No, that's right.
And they always use it.
And many times we know for a fact that it turns out that, oh, yeah, they were just saying that.
It's complete bullshit.
And there's things where you like what, like one of the, I don't know, one of the examples that I just think of when you mentioned that we can't comment on ongoing investigations, which they also violate that all the time and will comment on ongoing investigations.
But it's so funny, like where they go like, when what's his name, Ray, the FBI director is testifying under oath and they go, so were there any federal agents involved in the January 6th riots?
And he goes, well, I can't comment on an ongoing investigation.
You're like, how would saying no to that question interfere with your ongoing investigation?
Like, how is that not the follow-up question?
You go like, well, listen, I'm just assuming no.
The answer's got to be no, right?
Like that there weren't federal agents involved.
So why can't you just say that?
Why can't you say that?
How at all would that mess with investigation?
Seems like if anything, that would just make your investigation stronger.
All these people are responsible for it.
There you go.
But he goes, no, I can't comment on that.
It's also the even the line of its long-standing policy.
Well, is that a law?
Because then what's the long-standing policy of us being able to bring people in front of Congress and ask them questions?
Right.
And you realize that too.
It's like how much there is like Congress really has no teeth when taking on the deep state because you're like, oh, all we can do is ask you questions and then you can just not answer if you don't feel like answering it.
It's like, it's my longstanding policy to not admit two false flag operations.
And so we're going to continue that policy here today.
So anyway, however you feel about it legally, and even if I do think this would be illegal, if true, but like you said, Rob, as you kind of alluded to, there's many, many legal ways to bribe politicians.
And there's many things that politicians do that get them filthy rich that is just never exactly divulged to the public.
Like we just don't exactly.
You need an inside trade like the rest of us.
You're really going to sell us into a war?
But in a sense, you almost like kind of feel for Biden, right?
Because Biden has always been the guy dumb enough to get caught.
Yes.
He's always been one of the more dim-witted in his peer group.
And he's around these other people who, I'm not saying they're geniuses, but they're brighter than Joe Biden.
And look, this is what all like, I don't know exactly.
I don't have all the details on this.
I'm sure somebody out there has really done all of the research on it.
How, how does Nancy Pelosi have hundreds of millions of dollars?
How is she worth that much?
Her husband's just incredible at picking stocks or something like that.
I mean, I don't even know what he does besides, you know, get hit in the hammer by gay hookers.
I don't know exactly what he does with his life, but how much money is he making?
What is his salary?
Because her salary is what?
Been like a low six-figure salary for basically since the 90s, since she's been in Congress, right?
So like, I know Barack Obama's house is worth like $12 million.
How exactly did he buy a $12 million house?
He had a $400,000 a year job in the White House, right?
And his wife wasn't working.
How did he come up with a $12 million house?
How the hell did that happen?
You know, like I, and, and this is, those are just two examples.
There's a ton of them like that.
Like Chuck Schumer is fucking loaded.
These guys have crazy money.
Now, how exactly are they making all their money?
I'm sure somebody else has done like more of the research for me.
But the answer, and we all know the answer, is that they cash in on their powerful position.
That's it.
It's through one way or the other.
It's that they're cashing in on the fact that they have enormous amounts of power.
And that's, it's all just so nakedly corrupt.
And so Joe Biden himself is probably just trying to play that game.
And Joe Biden also has been playing that game in a lot of other ways.
I don't know if you've ever like looked into his connections with the credit card companies, but that's essentially what he always was.
He was the credit card company's man in Delaware there.
That was always Joe Biden.
So he's making money from all of them.
What's, I don't know, the credit card scam.
What was it?
He is just would always like introduce these laws that like greatly benefited credit card companies.
And then they would always like just he they would fund his campaigns to the brim and he had deals with them or he made, I think there's a whole bunch of them that are like based out of Delaware.
So he's always like, oh, I'm representing these companies that are here in my state, but it's fine.
It's just really naked corrupt shit.
But kind of low level corruption for the Senate, you know?
Like it's not like Hillary Clinton, like the Saudis are giving $10 million to your fucking campaign if you help them, you know, commit a genocide.
You know, it was more like, hey, credit cards, we're ripping people off, you know, like, yeah, you'll get in on the money here too.
As far as blood-soaked monster corruption, it was like not that bad.
But this is probably, you took this guy.
He was then elevated to being vice president.
And he was like, oh, I'm in charge of Ukraine policy.
I'm going to use this for something.
You know what I mean?
He's really just a guy who was never supposed to end up in this situation in terms of being president of the United States.
But anyway, so now, however you want to look at this legally, just in terms of what is more of a scandal between this and the Donald Trump situation, as you kind of alluded to before, there's just no comparison.
So let's see how the corporate press can deal with that.
Let's check in with the mothership of bullshit, which is Morning.
JOE, how are they doing your latest piece, which is entitled inside the Gop's latest desperate attempt to smear Joe Biden?
You write in part, if you get your news on planet Earth, you agree with me that the biggest news story of last week was the federal indictment of Donald Trump.
If however, you get your news on planet Wing Nuttia, you have been led to believe that, while the Trump matter certainly was news, the bigger deal by several orders of magnitude was the proof that emerged last week that Joe Biden took a five million dollar bribe from Ukraine and that representative Jamie Raskin lied about it.
Help me out here, because on the day of the indictment, I you know it drives Joe crazy right there.
Just like this is, and and this is why like, no matter how much contempt you have for the corporate press, it's never enough.
You can never have enough hatred for these people who truly are the enemies of the, the United States Of America, like the enemies of the people.
There's no better way to put it than that, that this is what they like, this is what they publish in the New Republic, but supposed to be like this serious publication, same one that calls me a Nazi, a Nazi sympathizer.
Uh, this is what they publish there.
They publish that like it's like well, if you get your news on planet Earth, then you agree that the biggest story was Donald Trump, but if you get it from Planet WING Nuttia, then yeah, you think Joe Biden getting a five million dollar bribe from Ukraine first of all, like talk about just taking on like the weakest straw man of the argument.
I don't think anyone's denying actually, that the biggest story is Donald Trump being prosecuted.
But the reason it's the biggest story is because the sitting president of the United States Of America is prosecuting his opponent in the next election.
Yeah, that's the biggest story, but not because of the underlying crime, which is what?
Like having some of the government, of the secrets the government keeps from the American people, having them not turning them over when you were supposed to.
It's not like any of this stuff is stuff you weren't allowed to know.
Right, he was allowed to know all of it because he had all of it with access to it.
He took it from when it was at his sole discretion to declassify, but he didn't do that and he kept it and he didn't return it when they said he returned it.
I'm sorry, whether legal or illegal, that's just not that big of a scandal on the great, on the.
In the grander scheme of things, it's just not.
However, this other thing that you're talking about is whether the president was personally being bribed by the country that he signed a blank check to, to support against a war with the country with the biggest nuclear arsenal in the history of the world.
Yes, that's bigger.
Like I, I live on planet wing nuttia because I think that like that is so much more of an outrageous scandal.
They're not even comparable.
How could you even possibly try?
Now, look, if you want to make the argument that strictly speaking, one is illegal and the other isn't, okay, fine.
I'm not even arguing about that.
But the idea that you would look at these two stories and think like, how could you possibly spin it?
That one is a bigger deal than the other.
Just my initial thoughts.
Anything to add or you want to jump back into the clip?
I agree with everything you said.
And I found the second half of this to be spicier.
So I'll reserve my question.
Let's jump into that.
Fox News and Newsmax and other outlets to see what they're saying.
And when the indictment came out, especially on Fox, it was like, oh, this is serious.
You had a lot of analysts and legal analysts, people who often turly saying this is really bad.
But as the hours went on and you went to five, six, and seven o'clock at night, all of a sudden it was all about Joe Biden and Hunter, and there was a lot of screaming.
So tell me about this bribe and the proof of it and all the reporting around it.
It must be very serious.
Oh, it must be, yes.
Well, you know, the big picture here is everything we've been talking about here for these last several minutes, the Republicans know and the right-wing media outlets know.
They know that they're about to hitch their wagon to the most corrupt man who's ever been president or run for president.
So part the flip side of that coin is that they have to dirty up Joe Biden.
They have to get people to think that Joe Biden.
So they've been trying for a very long time.
Very long time, right?
And this supposed $5 million bribe that he allegedly took from somebody in Ukraine is an old story.
Rudy Giuliani was peddling it many years ago.
And it was and Bill Barr, when he was attorney general, appointed a special prosecutor to look into it, Scott Brady, who was a U.S. attorney for Western Pennsylvania.
I don't know exactly what he did.
I know that he interviewed Giuliani once for several hours, but he never did anything.
He never brought any charges.
He's back in private practice.
It's apparently dropped, although the U.S. attorney in Delaware is supposedly looking into it.
But look, you know, do I know for a fact that Joe Biden never took a bribe?
Well, of course not.
Anything's possible, I suppose.
But I do know for a fact that a couple of things.
Joe Biden's been in public life for half a century.
And we've never seen any financial scandal attached to his name, number one.
Number two, they have to make Joe Biden dirty.
They have to make him corrupt.
All right.
We can stop it there.
Man, that was just some like grade A shifty propaganda right there.
Like it's just everything about it.
It's like these people, they're so out of touch with why no one's buying their bullshit anymore.
So first, it's just think about even the way he's saying this.
He's like, well, you know, the Republicans know that they've hitched themselves to the most corrupt president in history.
So that's just, that's the starting point.
Donald Trump is the most corrupt man ever.
No one could ever touch his corruption.
Even though like, I don't know, what if Biden took this $5 million bribe?
And the guy's so corrupt, the best you could get on him was the fact that he didn't return documents on schedule.
Right.
I mean, if he's the most corrupt person and everyone knows he's the most corrupt person and the system's actually been trying to get him for 10 years, how come you can't get him on some actual corruption?
Yeah, it's unbelievable.
But that's just a given.
And you're like, but even, and so what if this story is true, the one that you admit in two sentences that you can't rule out?
What if this guy took a bribe, a $5 million bribe from Ukraine and is now backing Ukraine in their war against Russia?
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That's not corruption.
That's not more corrupt than anything you could nail Trump for.
Whatever.
Anyway, it starts with that.
And then he goes, so the Republicans need to dirty up Joe Biden.
They need to get him and Hunter.
You know, all these things are, first of all, that is completely beside the point.
I mean, that's true, but you could just as easily dismiss any charges of corruption against Donald Trump as well.
That helps the Democrats, you know, the Democrats want him to be corrupt.
The Republicans want Biden to be corrupt.
Yeah, of course.
But that's the question here is what happened?
What is this story?
And then it's just the dismissal.
You know, this is actually an old story.
It's actually, yeah, this is something that was being alleged when they first got the Hunter Biden laptop.
And it's like, right.
Yes.
But now there seems to be more evidence pointing in that direction.
So that's what we're talking about here.
It's all just these tactics to like, dismiss.
It's an old story.
And then all these things that are completely beside the point.
They have nothing to, well, Joe Biden's never had a financial scandal in all of his years.
It's like, okay, well, he's got one now.
So what about this one?
It's all just saying things that have nothing to do with the central point, which is the question.
Is this real?
Did he or did he not take a $5 million bribe from Ukraine?
Because if he did, that is an enormous scandal, particularly given the current policies that the man has toward Ukraine.
It seems like a very weak dismissal.
It's basically a four-minute introduction of, hey, everyone else is covering that we should be concerned about this Joe Biden bribe.
Why shouldn't we be concerned with it?
Well, the first reason is Donald Trump is just more corrupt as a given.
The second reason we shouldn't be concerned with it is that the FBI was aware of this and didn't do anything.
That's very circular.
The entire problem here is us going, hey, the FBI is looking really corrupt.
And why are they just sitting on this document that we weren't even aware of?
Why is the FBI?
And by the way, we already know that the FBI has been playing ball for Biden.
We know that because they took part in the entire Russia collusion nonsense.
And I'm sure some of the officials, I don't know any specific names, but I'm sure some of them, the CIA, I know for sure signed off on the Hunter Biden stuff to get that taken down offline, but I'm sure the FBI was some of the names on that, the officials list of signing off on that.
I'm sure.
So the entire claim here is it seems like this deep state system is corrupt.
And look, we seem to have evidence that the FBI is just sitting on a document of Joe Biden's corruption.
Well, if Joe Biden was corrupt, the system would have done something.
No, that's exactly the complaint.
If the deep state is corrupt, then how come the FBI has never charged them with anything, Rob?
Right.
Yeah.
That's the argument.
Right.
It's almost, you might as well just get Joe Biden on there.
No one's saying that.
No one's saying that.
You guys know me.
No one's saying that.
I am.
I'm saying it.
I'm someone.
Come on, man.
Yeah.
So anyway, this is where we're going with this.
It'll, you know, I've, as I've kind of alluded to in previous episodes, I don't know what's going to happen here, but it because of how weak a candidate, how much of a liability Joe Biden is, I'm not, I don't completely think it's, it's impossible that this document ends up getting out to the public and we end up getting some more information about this.
And ooh, wouldn't it be really juicy if we ever actually got our hands on these recordings?
Well, it's going to be particularly the storyline here has been an absolute soap opera going from, hey, a document exists.
Hey, we're going to be able to show you the document.
Okay, we weren't able to show you the document before of us were able to look at the document.
Okay, we still can't show you guys the document, but here's more people having looked at the document and just saying that it does seem to be scandalous and juicy without being able to really give you any more details to the FBI now formally recognizes the document.
They might be able to put out the document.
So listen, at some point, it's like put up or shut up.
You know, we've been hearing the storyline of the Bidens and this corruption for a long time.
I don't see the Republicans doing great job with congressional hearings or anything else.
It's like, you know what I mean? slow drip of these juicy storylines.
It might be good for you and I and our jobs because we get to, you know, do what we do and go, I mean, we don't do the team sport thing that conserve, oh, they clearly got him.
We're a week away from them getting him.
They love this shit where it's always like, we're right here.
We're about to do it.
Oh, next week's really the bombshell.
And people like WWF, they're really glued in.
Like, it's finally going to happen.
I'm a little bit like, guys, what's the whole, like, let's just do it or don't.
And it's also even the Republican approach here of screaming, oh yeah, that.
Well, then tell us more of the information.
You're still just giving me like the loose claims of we've read a document that is a whistleblower told us about a document within the FBI that documents somebody with what, with what knowledge of the bribe?
Like what specifically is the documentation?
What is the full proof?
Is it just like, what's the storyline here that the FBI had a lead and they didn't follow up with the lead?
Or like they actually have like a full-fledged case and they just kind of buried it?
You know what I mean?
There's still, even on the Republican side, it's still a little bit of like the, oh, we're right here.
Yeah.
No, I think you're, I think that's exactly right.
And that's kind of what these conservative pundit types use to keep you voting Republican.
That's about to happen.
You just got it right.
Give us one more majority, you know, and it's going to happen.
And then it's like, okay, it's just, you can only get played by that so many times before you're just kind of like, yeah, no, it's not going to, though.
I'm not buying it.
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