Dave Smith and Robbie Bernstein critique government overreach before analyzing the Nova Kahovka dam disaster, where experts warn Russia faces greater water risks than Ukraine. They challenge the New York Times' framing of Ukrainian neo-Nazis, arguing that suppressing this reality aids Russian propaganda despite historical knowledge dating back to George H.W. Bush. The hosts also praise Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s viral appearance with Elon Musk and David Sacks, highlighting his dovish stance on Russia and China compared to rivals like Trump and DeSantis, while defending his vaccine skepticism as a necessary counter-narrative against corporate media demonization that mirrors Donald Trump's outsider strategy. [Automatically generated summary]
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Government Overreach and Prison Crisis00:02:03
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Nuclear Threats and Nord Stream Blame00:08:15
So big news in the war in Ukraine involving a dam that was destroyed last night, it seems.
The destruction of the, what do we call it here?
Sorry.
I'm blanking on the name because it's a weird, it's a weird Ukrainian name.
The Nova Kahovka dam located in southern Ukraine, right near the Dnipo River, was destroyed.
It is, as of right now, both sides are blaming the other one.
Russia's claiming that Ukraine did it.
Ukraine is claiming that Russia did it.
This is, it seems to be a real disaster, a real environmental disaster and a real disaster for people in the surrounding areas.
And anyway, it is not entirely clear to me as of right now who's responsible for this.
It is interesting how all of the usual suspects are jumping to blame Russia for it.
I'm just a little bit skeptical to accept that, particularly after the Nord Stream pipeline was attempted to be blamed on Russia.
Everyone's walked back from that now.
The rockets that launched that hit Poland were blamed on Russia.
Then it was confirmed that it wasn't in fact Russian.
It was Ukrainian.
Who knows?
As of right now, it seems that most of the experts are saying that this is going to probably hurt Russia more than it's going to hurt the Ukrainians because the water supply in Crimea is now in jeopardy.
Although there does seem to be, you know, it seems as though this was Russian-controlled area.
There was the beginning of a counteroffensive launched by the Ukrainians.
It's possible too that this will hurt them and slow down their counteroffensive.
So I don't exactly know.
But it's certainly one more reminder that war is really, really bad.
And instead of doing everything that our government could do to provoke this conflict and then everything our government could do to prolong this conflict and keep funneling weapons into it, probably would have been better to be striving for peace this whole time.
Really just insane.
I think that's the best takeaway.
I saw an article, I think it was in the week magazine, where Zelensky had responded saying, look what the Russians did.
And this is so terrible.
And this is why we can't allow them to be getting away with this.
And I just thought that that was such a fun.
It's like, no, that's why you should de-escalate and call it a quits on this, because even if it's true that the Russians did this, well, you're going to get, you're not beating them.
You're just going to end up with more of this.
So why not actually look for a peaceful resolution as opposed to, you know, fighting this thing to the bitter end and allowing this to possibly escalate towards all the way up to nuclear war.
Yeah.
Or just even like even if the nuclear threat wasn't on the table, you'd think like, wouldn't you just want to end this thing rather than have a policy of prolonging it?
But with the nuclear threat on the table, it's just imagine if after Hiroshima Nagasaki, Japan went, oh my God, what they did now, we got to double our war efforts because of what the U.S. just did.
I mean, that's the biggest atrocity that's ever happened.
We can't allow them.
We can't reward them for their behavior, Rob.
We must keep fighting.
And then you're like, if you were advising them, yes, keep fighting to the last Japanese citizen.
Yeah, that's more or less the attitude.
It's amazing.
War brings out the absolute worst in people.
And it brings out the worst in people's, not only in terms of like the actions that people take during war, the actions that they support during war, how much they lose any sense of humanity for the other side.
And then, of course, the least, you know, the least outrageous thing, but really is still frustrating is just the level of thinking that it brings that in people.
I had someone the other day, I shared Vivek Ramaswamy.
I know I butcher his name every time it's brought up, but I shared a clip of his where he was saying good things about the war in Ukraine.
And I give him credit for it.
He was sounding pretty good on it.
And there was one guy, let me see who it was here.
It's a this guy, Ron Filipowski, who I guess is like, he's a big follower.
He's got like almost 800,000 followers on Twitter.
And he's been seen on BBC, CNN, MSNBC, all this stuff or whatever.
And he writes, this is like the thinking that people have.
So he was critical of this clip that I shared of Vivek.
And he says, and there it is.
Finally, when a Republican candidate for president gets pinned down on how to end the Russian invasion in Ukraine, he admits that his solution is to give Putin everything he wants.
And like, this is just so funny to me.
And I responded to this, but it's like, this is what a like extraordinarily stupid way to think about foreign policy.
Like it's that, that's how they think about it.
Well, a bad guy gets what he wants.
Like, what?
What type of metric is that for judging what our policy should be?
Like, if let's say I say, we should nuke Russia.
We should nuke Russia tomorrow.
And even this guy would probably say no, right?
He'd say, no, let's not nuke Russia.
No, I've never heard anyone, Zelensky being the exception, but I've never heard any American, no matter how much they support the war in Ukraine, saying, I believe we should nuke Russia right now.
That's what we should do.
So if I were to suggest, let's nuke Russia, and then he were to say, no, let's not do that.
And I said, so you want to give Putin everything he wants?
Because you realize he wants us to not nuke him.
So checkmate.
I just proved you have a terrible policy here of not nuking Russia because that's what Vladimir Putin wants.
You see what I'm saying?
What a ridiculous standard that is.
Like that's what you, if we didn't invade Iraq in 2003, that's giving Saddam what he wants.
That's give, yeah, someone's always going to get what they want.
What should matter is what do we want?
Like that should be the standard.
And the standard should the standard should be what is in the interests of peace and what is in the defense of America.
That should be the standard for war policy.
That's it.
The idea that you just go, well, if we negotiate an end to the war, then Putin gets some of what he wants.
Therefore, no.
Therefore, continue the mass murder spray so that that guy doesn't get what he wants.
That's like the level of argument that we're dealing with here.
And that's what's informing this most insane policy.
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By the way, in another kind of interesting dynamic, there was the New York Times was forced to acknowledge that Ukraine is a little bit of a Nazi problem.
That was pretty interesting.
So they ran a they ran an article.
This is really, it's something.
You just can't believe it.
I'm not going to read the whole article, but if you want to go read it, it's as like, it's as absurd as this sounds.
But the article was titled, Nazi Symbols on Ukrainians' Front Lines Highlight Thorny Issues of History.
Because you see, that's what's going on here.
There's this, it really highlights that, you know, history is complicated and it's thorny.
Those Nazis were a little bit thorny.
They prick a little bit, you know?
And really what it highlights is that Ukraine just has this thorny history with the Nazis where they were invaded by the Nazis and a bunch of Ukrainians sided with the Nazis.
And, you know, now there's still some of their grandsons who still kind of think the Nazis were good.
You know.
And you have to compare this most favorable treatment to the way they react to any signs of Nazi or Confederate flags in the United States of America.
Yeah, really being proof of the overwhelming racism that actually exists and that it's willing to come to the forefront now that Donald Trump is in office.
Oh, yeah, no, that's not a problem.
That's all be aware of the extent.
And then the fact that...
No, Gavin McGinnis's group where you have to punch someone before you can name a breakfast cereal.
That's fucking Nazis.
So this guy with his swastika flag, like this guy who's like a real deal Nazi, it's like, ooh, that is a reminder of a thorny historical issue.
And then also the idea that the smartest of the liberals are reading the New York Times and after months of, I guess, the fact that it's a conspiracy that we're working with the Nazis out in Ukraine might go ahead and read this article and walk away with some just artful definition of how they just like the symbolism.
Well, one of the things that the responses that the more sophisticated types will typically give is that they'll say things like, they'll be like, well, it's that's they're a minority, which is true.
Like, yes, it is not mostly Nazis.
Nazi, but there's a pretty strong element of them.
You know what I mean?
Like, okay, that's something to think about.
And then they'll say things like, they'll be like, well, I mean, there's, there's anti-Semitism all through Eastern Europe.
And it's like, yeah, but I'm not talking about anti-Semitism.
Talking about Nazis.
Nazis.
It's a little bit of a different thing, right?
Anti-Semitism is all over the world, but Nazism is a very specific thing.
So that's the other thing.
And then even some of them will go, well, you know, there's some neo-Nazis on the Russian side too.
And you're like, yeah, that sounds like an excellent reason to not arm them, right?
But we're not arming them, right?
So I'm sorry.
I have a little bit of a different standard for this.
Like, yeah, okay, you're right.
There's, there probably are some neo-Nazis on the Russian side.
I don't think as many as on the Ukrainian side.
And I'm sure there's some fascistic types on the Russian side, but that's, we're not arming and propping up that side.
So that's the issue.
This was the tweet by the New York Times.
This is from the official New York Times account.
It's pretty unbelievable.
It says, the decision by some Ukrainian soldiers to wear patches with Nazi icons threatens to reinforce Russian propaganda used to justify the invasion.
It also could give the symbols mainstream.
It also could give the symbols mainstream life after the West's decades-long effort to eliminate them.
So isn't this so interesting?
This is the angle that the New York Times takes.
It's not like, oh, what's the obvious angle here?
What's the obvious like story?
Oh, shit, we're working with Nazis.
Yes, we're supporting Nazis.
Nazis are bad and we're helping Nazis.
This makes it a little bit more of a complicated question of whether we should really be doing this.
I mean, my God, in World War II, we allied with Stalin to fight the Nazis.
And now we're allying with the Nazis to fight Putin?
This raises some questions, okay?
But no, their concern is that this could reinforce Russian propaganda.
Not that Nazis are bad, not that we shouldn't be supporting this group of Nazis, but that, oh, this might make the Russians look right.
The truth has a Russian bias.
Oh, that's the best way to put it.
The truth has a Russian bias.
It's not really propaganda if that aspect turns out to be true.
Actually, what you're saying is the part that we didn't want everyone to know about is actually accurate.
Yes, if they know the truth about this, this could support the Russian propaganda.
Well, all right.
Again, this is just, it's the same thing as saying, but then Putin gets what he wants.
It's like, well, I don't care if this is Russian propaganda.
I don't care if this suits their, what's the truth?
Those Russians sure do have some good talking points.
Yeah, you know, look, the Russians have all types of propaganda that's bullshit.
All types of things.
I mean, one of their major pieces of propaganda is that Ukraine isn't a real country and that basically Russia should have a right to do what they want with it.
And that's complete bullshit, huh?
I'm okay with that.
Yeah, well, but I mean, that's a real country, fake country.
Well, right.
I mean, but that's kind of the point is who you don't get to just decide that this group is fake and therefore you can do whatever you want with them.
Like, Putin's got all types of propaganda that's bullshit.
But like, in the same point, like, look, is it, let's say, the fact that the Nazis were evil, the fact that Al-Qaeda is evil, the fact that ISIS is evil.
That was all American propaganda, but it's true.
So who cares?
You can't like disc, it's not an argument against that to say that's American propaganda.
It's like, yeah, I mean, okay, it suits the American propaganda narrative, but yeah, it's still true.
So it doesn't matter.
You know, like it's it, none of this matters.
No real journalist or just honest thinker should ever be concerned with what facts suit another's propaganda.
The question is, what are the facts?
What's really going on here?
And the outrage, when you find out that there's Nazis on the front lines of this fucking war effort that we are all in supporting, the takeaway from that ought not be that, well, this undermines our war effort.
Matt Taibbi had a great like tweet comment where he said, could you kindly put those swastikas away and continue the fighting?
Something like that.
I forget exactly what he said.
Anyway, it's pretty interesting to watch this like epic level of cope that the New York Times has to write where they go like, oh man, this could really, this could really make Vladimir Putin sound right when he's saying that there's a bunch of Nazis over there.
And that's the real problem.
The real problem with arming Nazis is that the guy saying you're arming Nazis might be proven right.
And it's amazing how, I guess, overwhelming the evidence of this must have been that the New York Times finally had to acknowledge, oh, we better get ahead of this story.
And then I forget, how do they spin it?
They spin it as like they're not real Nazis.
They just like the imagery for different reasons.
Something like that.
Yeah.
There's like, well, there's, you know, a lot of this is just kind of imagery.
And it's their thorny history, you understand, Rob.
It's all this stuff is thorny, you know?
No, it's amazing to see how much the term, even the term right wing, but the term fascist and the term Nazi, it's so weaponized in domestic American politics, as you were like alluding to before, that it's so funny to watch them go like, then here comes this guy with a fucking 1488 swastika tattoo on him.
And they're like, okay, now let's talk about this.
Granted, it's not great, but we still have to continue to support this guy.
You know, so I come from, I have a simpler view where I think I don't think the major problem with us arming Nazis is that it proves the guy who says you're arming Nazis right.
I feel like the major problem is that we're arming Nazis.
But that's just, that's me, you know?
It's also pretty funny, just like in my own world, because, you know, I've been pretty vocal on this issue.
And so many of the people like who fucking call me a Nazi sympathizer or whatever are also the ones who are now going to bend over backward to make excuses for them.
It's like the ones, these are the ones who like I had a podcast with Nick Fuentes or something like that.
So I'm a Nazi sympathizer.
And that same person will advocate this policy of arming Nazis.
So I've never advocated a policy, a Nazi policy in my fucking life.
Never advocated anything other than fucking like pure libertarian policies, at least since I've been doing podcasts.
Maybe when I had some dumb Democratic policies when I was a kid.
Nick Fuentes is a gay Mexican and the most progressive man in America.
I'd like to blind our viewers of that.
He's leading the charge.
He's doing his best to diversify the far right wing in America.
He's doing everything he can.
He's the kid has jerked off Kanye West for the cause.
Is that not enough?
Is that not enough for you?
Does he not put in his time?
Anyway, it's just the whole thing is so fucking goofy, but it's really funny.
It's really something to see the New York Times like have this article and there's this epic level of like, holy shit, you're really trying to cope with this reality.
And of course, by the way, another thing that's interesting is that before, much like there's a real parallel with the stuff with the terror wars, but before like in the 90s, it was completely common when reporters were talking about Osama bin Laden to talk about how he hated America for our foreign policy in the Middle East.
Like that was just, that was the line.
But then as soon as 9-11 happened, it was like, that was a controversial thing to say now.
Like that was, it was like, no, he hates us for our freedom.
And then if someone's like, I think it's our foreign policy, they're going, you know, you hate America or whatever.
And it's the same thing now that this was, this was reported.
You could find, I mean, I don't remember a specific piece off the top of my mind, but I guarantee you, like if I went and like did a Nexus search on the New York Times, you could find reports about Ukrainian Nazis, just not since Russia invaded.
As soon as Russia invaded, that became a Russian talking point.
But this was people knew about this forever.
This has always been a thing.
There's very radical elements.
George H.W. Bush gave a speech right before the fall of the Soviet Union where he was basically saying, and I believe that I'm not sure if the speech was in Ukraine, but it definitely had, he had Ukraine in his mind.
But he was talking about how, look, we may be opposed to the Soviet Union, but don't think we're with you guys, like ethno-nationalists who want to break away.
Like this has been a concern that people have known about forever.
This isn't anything new, but it's just funny that like as soon as Vladimir Putin invaded, that became the thing you're not allowed to talk about.
And we must pretend it doesn't exist.
And so now they have to admit it exists, but you know, it's just thorny.
It's just, look, we'll admit it's a thorny history.
The problem here, the real problem with the Nazis is they could make Vladimir Putin look good.
That's the real issue.
Not their plans to exterminate the Jews or whatever.
Anyway, that's pretty insane.
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RFK Jr. Vaccine Claims and Campaign00:09:40
I do want to talk a little bit about our boy, RFK Jr., who, of course, did appear on this show.
And we were very happy that he did so.
As I've said before, I'm very interested in his campaign and I've been paying a lot of attention to it.
He just did, I don't know if you caught any of this, Rob, but he did a Twitter spaces with Elon Musk and David Sachs, kind of a similar type deal to what DeSantis did when he first announced his campaign.
But Robert F. Kennedy Jr. did one.
It got a ton of people listening and watching it.
They evidently, I believe they did not have any of the any of the technical issues that they had during Ron DeSantis' one, which was good.
It looks like they worked that out.
I do have to say, again, look, I know there's people out there who are kind of talking about what positions he's bad on or anything like that.
But I just got to say, I got to call him like I see him.
He knocked it out of the park.
Just a phenomenal job he did.
Over 2 million people viewed it as of right now.
And I'm sure that number will continue to climb.
It's pretty interesting that you can do something like this.
This is, again, this is where Robert F. Kennedy Jr. shines is in these long form conversations where he can give long, in-depth answers.
He shines because he is a candidate who is well read in these subjects that he's talking about.
And he's got a thoughtful, intelligent opinion.
So that can only, you know, you can only do so much in 60 second sound bites with stuff like that.
He's much better the longer he talks.
Also, because of his vocal issues, he does much better when he can talk for longer periods of time.
You kind of, you tend to forget about it.
Like it just, you kind of adjust to it and just get used to the way he's speaking.
You start to listen to what he's saying and it's compelling.
So you end up kind of getting, you know, drawn in.
I think it's probably much more abrasive if it's just, you know what I mean?
You just like, all of a sudden he's talking and you're like, well, yo, what's up with his voice?
But anyway, he did a, he did a fantastic job, even on some of the questions where he were about topics where I think he's had not such a great track record.
He did a very good job.
He was asked about guns at one point.
And he basically said, you know, look, what's going on with like school shootings is a tragedy.
And of course, I'd want to do anything I could, you know, but he goes, we have really gotten so far away from like our constitution and the Supreme Court has basically settled that the Second Amendment gives individuals a right to own guns.
And so you just can't take away the guns.
And he also said something where he went, the nation is so divided now that any attempt to take away people's guns is going to immediately be seen as like, you know what, this, this whole thing.
And so and then he just kind of pivoted to how there should be a real study done on the role of pharmaceutical drugs in these school shootings and how so many of these kids are on these psychotropic drugs.
And it was, I got to say, I thought it was asking a Democratic question about guns about as good an answer as you were going to get.
What I found even more interesting than that was that he, the question of China came up and I thought he had like a really excellent answer on it, where he was really like kind of blasting the people who are warmongering with China, that basically China is an economic competitor and we should embrace that and we should win that competition and that that can make everybody better.
It can be good for the world.
It can be good for us.
I thought it was an interesting moment where you started to realize that even amongst the Republicans, even amongst the Republicans who are great on Ukraine, they're almost all bad on China.
Almost all of them are like looking to pick a fight with China.
And that it kind of put Robert Kennedy into this unique space now where he's the only candidate, I believe, in the two major parties who's polling anything that you could even register, who's actually a dove on both Russia and China.
You know, Vivek Ramaswamy, who's, you know, I apologize for always butchering his name, but like I said, he said some great things about Ukraine.
But then he's got these positions about like drones striking, you know, cartels in Mexico.
And he's got these positions about being a hawk on China.
They're just really not good.
DeSantis seems to not even be that good on Ukraine and also wants to be a hawk on China.
Trump seems really good on Ukraine, although he didn't govern really good on Ukraine, but he's saying the right things, but he wants to be a hawk with China.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is now the only one of these candidates who is saying we should be, we should have peace with both of these countries.
What are we doing?
Like, why are we moving toward a war position?
Why are we provoking China running war games right off their coast?
What are we doing here?
Why are we even talking about what military response we would have to them taking Taiwan?
Like, why are we even, why are we even entertaining this?
Let's just stop.
Let's stop all of this.
How about we don't want to fight any wars with any of you?
Like, that's the most common sense position.
And he seems to be the only one who's taking that.
It's he is running an interesting campaign, man.
And we'll see where this goes.
Obviously, it's still a long shot.
And obviously, there's still a lot of time to go, but he just, he just got the endorsement of Jack, what's his name?
Dorsey.
Jack Dorsey, the former, the former head of Twitter there.
Interesting stuff.
Did you catch any of the spaces?
I did not, but I read a recap in the Times, which I sent over your way.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
The Times was also, they were upset with his thorny history of, what was it, pushing misinformation or something like that?
I was just fascinated by all the blurbs of what they took offense to of, can you believe that this guy holds this opinion?
And then I read it and it was like what you just said of, hey, the problem with these school shootings is the big pharma companies.
I'm like, that's awesome.
Or the problem with healthcare rates is the Obamacare and what they've done for insurance companies.
I'm like, that's awesome.
Like Ukraine war, I got to get out of it.
Well, that sounds pretty great.
Vaccines weren't good.
Sounds pretty great too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, it is so funny that The big thing they're trying to get him on is essentially they go, he's a kook on vaccines, which is just so, it's such an interesting.
Oh, I think almost at any time in my life, that would have been a somewhat effective blow.
Right.
Would have been like, this guy's a kook on vaccines, you know?
And like, come on, you guys all got your kids vaccinated, right?
You don't really believe that.
And if nothing else, the thing is that basically everybody gets their kids vaccinated.
And not everybody, but the vast majority of people do.
And that very heavily incentivizes people to not want to believe that there's something wrong with them.
I like my autism.
Yeah, but that's a real bitter pill to swallow if you're a parent that you're like, oh, shit, I gave my kids something that could really have injured them.
You know, that's like, you really don't want to accept that.
It's a very dark thing to think about.
Go out there and get HPAV the right way.
Be a man.
Yeah, really.
Come on.
We're all fine.
We did it.
But like, you know, that so there's, but it's just saying, oh, this guy's a kook on vaccines really hits different in 2023.
And I guess sometimes I struggle.
It's, it's always a challenge, I think, for guys like me and you who live in this world to try to be like, okay, we live in this world, but what's just the average person who doesn't live in this world feeling?
But even for them, you know, to see the same publications and the same people saying, oh, you're such a kook on vaccines, where it's like, you just spent two years lying through your teeth about a vaccine that you forced on everybody.
Like, what?
But his position of being a skeptic is too kooky.
I think like a lot of us are in a place where you're like, I'll take the skeptic.
Even if I, I don't necessarily know if he's right about all of it.
It's like, I'll, I'll, I'll go with that guy.
I'll go with the guy who's skeptical.
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I got to say, I think it's a very good sign for RFK that the New York Times is running hate pieces on him.
It's a very good sign for him and a very good sign for his campaign.
I told him when we were talking off air, I told him that I think there's the potential for his campaign to just absolutely take off is that he's very likely going to get demonized by the entire corporate press.
And what happens is the same thing that happened with Donald Trump.
And it's almost like they can't help themselves or they can't accept that this is a reality.
So they'll just keep doing it where you go, you now, look, you're, I said this to him, I said, you're running as the outsider candidate.
You're running, your vote is a vote against the system.
Like you're, you're saying they got everything wrong over the last few years.
And if you're trying to appeal to people who are furious with the establishment, the establishment lining up to demonize you only helps solidify the fact that you're the one they're afraid of.
You're the one who might actually get them.
And this is what happened with Donald Trump.
And I think a similar type dynamic might be helping, might be happening with RFK.
I think it's possible that this could really help him.
It also, like, you don't know exactly, but, you know, you had made the point that there's still a lot of Democrats who don't know that he's running, you know?
And the New York Times now is almost like letting them know, hey, there's a Kennedy running.
And look, he's got all of these horrible positions.
But when you actually look at them, it's like, hmm, all right.
That seems like fairly reasonable.
I mean, I don't know.
It's pretty interesting.
Like the answer he gave on guns.
And look, I know there'll be people who are critical of RFK.
And some of the criticisms are fair, I think.
And they'll say things like, yeah, but look, he was just a few years ago saying something so much worse on this subject.
So what, now when he's running, he's saying this.
And like, fair enough.
That's, that's a fair criticism.
But what's interesting is that he is running and saying these things.
And that kind of gives you like a little bit of a gauge.
Like imagine someone could actually, and it's not going to be someone from the right wing because they won't be listened to.
But imagine like a Democrat could actually kind of pitch the Democratic voters that like, you know, look, man, we're just not going to be able to take away the guns.
If nothing else, because it'll be so resisted if you attempt to.
And then if you want to do this, if you want to go down this path, then you're talking about like something approaching a civil war.
Like there is just going to be a war to try to get people's guns.
But maybe we could take a look at this other thing.
Hey, you know, we're drugging up all these kids.
You know, this never happened before we started drugging up all these kids, right?
Maybe there's a connection there.
Maybe that's something, you know?
I mean, I know like a lot of these like antipsychotic drugs and a lot of these like SSR.
What's the term?
I'm like, what's it called?
SSRs, right?
SRIs?
SRIs?
You know what I'm talking about, the fucking antidepressant drugs.
They'll even say that like suicidal thoughts are one of the, you know, side effects.
That there's like, this can fuck with your mood.
We're fucking with the levels of your mood.
So sometimes this fucks with your mood.
And then of course, there's when people are on a lot of them and go off the meds.
What effect that has on them?
And it's certainly a, it's a completely reasonable question to ask.
And it's a completely reasonable thing to say we should have like studies looking into this, really try to figure out whether this is contributing.
I mean, like it is possible, it is quite possible that for kids that are on the edge of sanity, loading them up with fucking psychotropic drugs may in some cases push them over the edge.
That's a completely reasonable thing to ask about, think about.
And it's much more practical than all this talk about gun control.
All right.
Fucking kids all adding up doing psycho shit.
Yeah.
Yep.
That's right.
All right.
Listen, we're going to wrap this up so you can go catch a train, Rob.
We'll extend the next episode and do a little bit longer.
We'll figure that out to make it up to you fine people.
Maybe I'll do a live stream in the next couple of days or something like that.