Dave Smith and Robbie the Fire dissect the collapse of mainstream narratives, citing an FBI agent's arrest for Russian collusion to expose flaws in the Trump-Russia investigation. They critique Joe Scarborough's "snake oil" defense of vaccine mandates despite his own severe illness post-boosters, contrasting this with Bill Gates' hypocritical dismissal of efficacy. The hosts argue that green energy policies will trigger resource shortages akin to pandemic lockdowns, while skepticism surrounds a Project Veritas video featuring a Pfizer employee whose claims they deem sensationalist rather than evidentiary. Ultimately, the discussion highlights how government propaganda erodes institutional trust and polarizes society, warning that future authoritarian measures may target climate change or grid failures. [Automatically generated summary]
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Deep Russian Influence00:09:42
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Okay, so the first thing that I wanted to talk about that I know you had mentioned to me earlier, Rob, there's a pretty interesting story from the last few days.
There was an FBI agent arrested for, believe it or not, Russian collusion of a sense.
Evidently, he was doing in some type of business arrangement with a Russian oligarch, which is a no-no at the FBI.
You're not supposed to be taking money from oligarchs in foreign countries.
But anyway, it's just, it's really something after all the, you know, the obsession with Trump-Russia collusion, that actually the first piece of evidence of any real conspiracy seems to be between FBI, Russian collusion.
That's something.
They were just looking in the wrong place.
Apparently, Russia collusion exists the whole time.
It was just the people investigating it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, I saw this one video of Joe Scarborough, who's the host of Morning Joe over at MS. He does that show with his whore girlfriend, right?
That is the same guy.
Okay.
That you're thinking of.
It was, this was, I almost like give it a chef's kiss.
This was the best spin I've ever seen.
It's just, you almost look at it and I'm watching it.
I'm like, it's like when you're unplugged from the Matrix for long enough, it's weird to just like look at it and you're like, wait, does anyone fall for this?
This.
Like, it seems like it used the propaganda used to be better.
I want you to watch this, Rob.
And let's give your honest assessment.
Here's Joe Scarborough from Morning Joe.
pet peeves is when I read columns by opinion writers who recklessly throw out the term that conspiracy theorists throw out, quote, Russian hoax.
We know that when Marco Rubio was running the Senate Intel Committee, that they actually said Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign and its contacts with Russia caused a direct threat to the United States of America.
We know now that there was Russian influence that infiltrated the upper reaches of the FBI in the New York office.
How disturbed should we be with how much the Russians have been able to infiltrate the United States government?
And the fact that there's still mainstream people that keep talking about a quote Russian hoax as if they didn't even read the second part of the Mueller report.
It's a great point, Joe, because they're using this McGonagall case, those people you're talking about, to discredit the Russia investigation because McGonagall played some small role in it.
When actually, to your point, what it shows is how deeply the tentacles of Russian influence.
Wait, see, I don't understand.
I don't understand this.
Can you get a guy bought off by the Russians working on a Russia investigation that ends up deciding Trump doesn't have contacts with Russia?
How stupid do these people think we are?
He's on the tape.
All right, pause it.
Pause it for a second.
So yes, you actually heard that right.
Joe Scarborough is saying that this is more evidence of Trump-Russia collusion, conspiracy, whatever.
Because look, I mean, first off, there's just so many things here that are just so fascinating.
His own reporter there is like, hey, that's a great point, Joe.
And look, he goes, they're trying to make this one guy who played a small role in the Trump-Russia investigation.
They're trying to make it out like, oh, the whole investigation is bunked now or something like that.
And then Joe Scarborough kind of contradicts him and goes, no, see, this is proof because they bought Russia had an FBI agent bought off and the FBI ultimately concluded that there was no connection there.
See?
So almost like, look, this just proves how deep Russia's tentacles are in our government.
And we can't.
Now he's saying we can't trust the result of the election, excuse me, the result of the investigation because of this.
I mean, bravo, I guess.
Bravo.
What more can you say about that?
Now, of course, the reality is that what Joe Scarborough has been reduced to now is saying like, oh, but there was a Senate intelligence committee once where Marco Rubio, Marco Rubio, who was destroyed by Donald Trump in the 2016 election, who's a neocon, who's, you know what I mean, like just part of the Uniparty, that he said it constituted a threat that Donald Trump had had contact with the Russians.
By the way, there's nothing unusual about having contact with foreign governments.
That was never the claim.
The claim was that there was a conspiracy.
But the reality is that there was not only a full investigation, but there was a special prosecutor, if you recall, that was sunk on Donald Trump.
And they came up with nothing.
Why weren't there any criminal charges?
Why hasn't anyone in Trump's orbit been charged with anything that has to do with a conspiracy with Russia?
Not a single one of them.
I mean, does Scarborough think maybe Robert Mueller was bought off by the Russians too?
Or is it just this one FBI agent?
It's just, I don't know.
By the way, I know people will say, well, there were a bunch of Trump people who were like arrested.
It's like, yeah, but it was all for like, you know, failing to, you know, disclose, you know, like failing to register as a foreign lobbyist or failing to, you know, income tax violations or lying to Congress about some other unrelated thing.
Nothing to do with the conspiracy with Russia.
No evidence has been presented that way that Russia in any way meaningfully interfered in the 2016 election, let alone that Donald Trump was in a conspiracy with them to do so.
That's why mainstream people are calling it a Russia hoax because you had a full investigation and came up with nothing.
And when he says, oh, it's like these people didn't read the second part of the Mueller report.
Well, we did.
And the second part of the Mueller report has nothing to do with a conspiracy with Russia.
It's just alleging that there were instances that could be considered obstruction of justice, which again would have nothing to do with evidence of a conspiracy.
And they include like Donald Trump firing the head of the FBI or Donald Trump tweeting that it was a witch hunt or things like this.
It's all complete nonsense.
But bravo, what a spin.
Pretty impressive.
I think we have to redo the entire investigation.
I mean, to think that we spent two years, hundreds of millions of dollars, and the investigators on the Democratic side were actually corrupt.
I mean, if anything, we're back to square one.
Certainly Trump can't run for election now.
We don't know that he's not a Russian asset.
Yeah, unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
It really is something.
I mean, if anything, you could just as strongly draw the conclusion that, oh, I mean, maybe that's what the Russians want is for the sitting president to be investigated and to cause, you know, dissent within the country.
I don't know.
But I mean, I don't think there's a very strong case for that, but there's as strong of a case for.
Building Resistance to Truth00:04:52
Well, that was always the irony of it was that they were yelling that this erodes trust in our democracy.
Well, what is yelling for two years that the president's actually a Russian asset do?
Yeah.
Does that bring more faith into the democracy?
So it's like it was, it was always kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, there's, there is something about that for sure that it's like, oh, yeah, right.
We're concerned about undermining trust in institutions as we yell from the rooftops that our entire system of government has been taken over by the Russians and that the president isn't the legitimate president and all this.
Anyway, I just thought that moment from Joe Scarborough was just hilarious.
And it came in on a week where Joe Scarborough has had several embarrassing moments.
I wanted to go through this.
It's really something.
But this is it in a way, these things all connect.
So let's play the next clip, which is Joe Scarborough talking about his battle with COVID.
You know, it's interesting.
I had not gotten my COVID booster.
Which one?
The fourth.
The fourth.
Yeah.
Because, you know, we went to London, then got COVID.
COVID.
Yeah.
Got completely knocked down for a while.
Yes, you did.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Well, I wouldn't say months.
You were knocked down for months.
Months?
Yes.
I wouldn't say months.
No, it was a long time.
So anyway, weeks.
Teeth is weeks.
It was weeks.
I was fatigued for a long time.
I'll say it's very interesting, though, because we're learning a lot more about what your resistance to COVID may be.
Yeah.
What was that?
Back in September.
Just got my checkup and the antibodies are like at 100% right now.
Interesting.
So for it kind of works out.
But again, we found out, we found out the boosters, the vaccines, they don't stop the disease, but they certainly do make a big impact.
Instead of me being down for a month with fatigue, if I'd taken the booster, I would have probably sneezed and said, what was that?
And kept going.
That's the difference.
And so I love when people go, oh, I'm not going to kuzo difference.
So you still get COVID.
That's not the purpose of it.
That's never been the purpose of the flu shot.
And so it builds up your resistance, just like actually getting COVID builds up your resistance.
So do yourself a favor, right?
And get off the websites that Chinese religious cults are putting as a front so they can get a strong.
I'm sorry.
I can't make it stand.
I just can't do it.
And the idea that the two of them are playing a guessing game and then also insulting you for actually trying to read up and have an opinion and do your research.
They're right in front of you guessing, going, hey, we have no idea what the impact of, did you get the booster?
Did you not have the booster?
How far out were you?
We don't even remember how sick you were for it, but it would have been worse.
That's their best scientific analysis.
And then they go, and don't read other places.
Come here because we'll give you the best information available.
Sounds like you're completely fucking fused.
The reason why I was saying, yeah, listen, you're absolutely right.
It's just, it's infuriating.
It's so smug.
And it's like this, this thing where they're like, yeah, well, obviously it doesn't stop you from getting it.
That was never what it was about.
That's not why we take it.
It just makes it better.
It's like, oh, so if someone's still under the impression of the way you guys sold this thing, then, you know, like, that's what, you're an idiot.
Like they're talking down to you.
And then this assertion that it would have been worse, like it's all, but the reason why I was connecting that to the first video is it's like, if you look at it, it's really the same mentality.
Right.
It's the same mentality.
It's like, okay.
Double down.
Yes.
You're starting from the position of I'm right.
And no matter what evidence comes out, that it just has to in some way prove that I'm still right.
So there's the, I, I'm starting from the premise that I am correct.
Evidence be damned.
Like there's no, it doesn't matter what evidence comes out.
That can only possibly, you know what I mean?
Nothing could prove me wrong.
So you won't allow yourself to go like, oh, so I was saying that Trump was in a conspiracy with the Russians.
Turns out one of the people investigating him was actually in a conspiracy with the Russians and the investigation yielded nothing.
Oof.
You know, that's if you maintain like a 1% chance that you could be wrong, you look at that and go, oof, we kind of got that one wrong, right?
It's just the obvious conclusion from that.
But if there is a 0% chance you're wrong, you go, well, now this must be the reason why the investigation yielded no results.
You know what I mean?
It's just the, it's like, and this stuff, I mean, it's literally like out of some old cartoon, what a snake oil salesman would say when they found out that the snake oil wasn't helping.
The Unvaccinated Advantage00:15:43
Like you just didn't take enough.
You need to, I mean, imagine you get, you get double vaccinated and boosted, and then you get COVID and still get very sick from getting COVID.
According to his girlfriend, months.
I don't know.
I know people have gotten very sick from COVID.
I don't know anyone who it's knocked them out for months.
So just saying, like, what's what's the answer that's right in front of your face there?
I got double vaccinated and boosted, still got COVID, still got very sick.
The obvious conclusion is that the vaccines work, right?
And that you're an idiot for questioning whether these vaccines work.
There's just so like it's, it is truly stunning to watch someone have this level of certainty despite all of the evidence.
Despite all of the evidence coming at them, he just wasn't boosted enough.
Literally, that's that's his take.
It's the snake oil take.
I just wasn't boosted enough.
Just should have been boosted more.
You know, I think if these people care about their health, that lady should probably spend less time in a tanner.
I'll be honest, don't worry so much about the boosting.
Maybe just maybe just less less maybe just self-tanner.
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All right, let's go to the, this is pretty funny.
So this is now the next day Joe Scarborough had to respond to the response.
So if you can imagine, he did this piece and he's just getting eviscerated online.
So then here was his comeback.
I mean, he might as well have said, stay tuned.
We don't know what the fuck we're talking about.
We're confused about how this technology works.
So don't go on your stupid websites.
Stay tuned to us.
Yeah, pretty much.
All right, let's check this out.
You know, yesterday when I was talking about getting COVID and should have gotten a fourth booster shot, a lot of these freaks are, oh, fourth booster shot robot.
No, listen, here's the deal.
Moron.
If you get a flu shot, what do you do?
Do you go to the doctor?
Oh, my God, you want me to have a 50th flu shot?
No, you get a flu shot every year.
Right.
And as we're finding out with this pandemic, well, it lasts six months, maybe a year.
So yes, yes.
Put on your big boy pants.
Put on your big girl pants.
And if you want to be healthy, I don't care if you don't, that's your business.
Smoke cigarettes, do whatever you want to do.
Stay up all night.
Don't sleep.
That's fine.
Be unhealthy, your choice.
My concern here, though, and let me bring in Reverend Sharpen because we've talked about this.
My concern, Rev, is that there's a disinformation out there where people are saying, oh, well, it doesn't work because you've got to keep getting booster shots.
The thing is, you're always trying to build up your immunity and people are still dying from COVID.
Is it a crisis right now?
Well, for the people who are dying of COVID, yeah.
Oh my God.
Is it a crisis?
Is it sure?
Let's pause it.
There's just, there's so much lunacy here.
Yep.
Let's start with, I don't care about your behavior.
So then if you don't care about other people's behavior, then who cares?
Well, what's the problem?
Let them make your own decisions.
As if it's like, dude, you sit there and go like, hey, look, you don't want to take it.
You don't take it.
That's your choice.
You want to stay uplight?
You want to do this?
He's going, excuse me.
You've ruined millions of people's lives for not taking this thing.
How many people were fired from their jobs?
It's like, you know what a major thing that is to just destroy someone's livelihood because they didn't take this.
And now it's just kind of like this, oh, almost this libertarian attitude, right?
Oh, whatever.
You want to take it?
You want to not take it.
But obviously, I should still mock you.
You're still a moron for that.
You're a moron if you're someone like me or you who didn't take the vaccine, doesn't have to worry about any of the problems from the vaccine, got COVID and has better immunity than people who took the vaccine.
We're morons for this, yet somehow what?
But your argument, which is not moronic at all, is that I got COVID and got so sick after three vaccines, four would have made it much better.
And then here's the dumbest thing he says.
It's still a pandemic for the people getting sick.
Let's just say there's what, 9 billion people on the planet.
And once, let's just say once a year, one out of every 9 billion people go up in flames when they fart.
They literally catch fire out of their asshole and they burn in front of you alive and yell in pain.
And you and I said, well, I wouldn't worry about not farting because that only happens to one out of every 9 billion people.
And he would say, well, it's still a pandemic for that one person.
That's what he's literally saying right now is sure, it's not a pandemic, but what about the people that are dying?
Yeah, every single situation.
Or what about this?
By the same logic, it's a great investment strategy to play the lottery because guess what?
Most people don't win, but there's that one guy that won.
So it's a great investment for him for him.
It's a great investment.
Yeah.
No, that's the exact same logic.
For him, it was a really great investment.
It was the best thing that ever happened for him.
It's like, right.
Okay.
Okay.
Here's a, by the way, a different take that also got a huge, huge response online is Scott Adams Tanner.
I just sent you this video, if you don't mind pulling that up.
So Scott Adams, he's the guy who created Dilbert.
Did you ever, were you into Dilbert?
I read Dilbert and then later in life, he was writing really interesting opinion pieces in the Wall Street Journal.
And he had a very good way of breaking things down.
He was an early predictor that Trump was going to win.
And I read his books.
And he was a particularly disappointing figure when it came to COVID because based off of he's a smart guy.
I just, I don't know how he wasn't able to see it based on all the writings he has on cognitive bias.
And yeah.
Yeah.
No, I, yeah, basically that's my assessment too.
Um, that he was uh, I did a great gut felt show with him once and we hung out a little, but he's an interesting guy.
And yeah, he was, he was right, one of the guys who really like put his balls on the table predicting Donald Trump was going to win and had a really interesting explanation for why Donald Trump was connecting with people so much.
Yeah, he was very bad on all of the COVID stuff, at least from what I saw in him.
He really just got it wrong.
And it's a, it is kind of a shame to see people that.
But he had a video and this kind of caught my eye.
I think part of the reason why this blew up so much is because it's just so damn rare.
But anyway, let's just play it and let you guys decide what you think.
Having said as clearly as possible that the anti-vax people seem to be the winners, I want you to hear that clearly.
The anti-vax people appear to be the winners.
The anti-vaxxers clearly are the winners at this point.
And I think it'll probably stay that way.
And I don't want to put any shade on that whatsoever.
They came out the best.
They have the winning position.
The unvaccinated have a current advantage because they feel better.
The thing they're not worrying about is what I have to worry about, which is, I wonder if that vaccination five years from now.
Because really, the anti-vaxxers, I think, were really just distrustful of big companies and big government.
That's never wrong.
It's never wrong to distrust government.
It's never wrong to distrust big companies.
So if you just took the position, let's just distrust everything the government did.
Well, you won.
You won.
You won completely.
That's all.
That's all we need to play of that.
So that was basically the gist of it.
I give him credit for at least admitting that.
And this is, I got to tell you that he, it really is kind of the essence of what he broke down there is basically the essence of why it's one of the things that's built up this show so much.
It's like why our track record is so much better than most on all of the major stories.
You know what I mean?
Like on whether it's the vaccines or the lockdowns or the Trump-Russia collusion or any of like the big stories that we talk about, we have a very good rate of getting basically to the gist of what's really going on here.
And it's essentially that.
It's not that anything the government ever says.
It's like if the government says the sky is blue, I'm not going to take the position that it's not.
You know what I mean?
It's not that like pure, you know, like it's not that you're that like pure, like purely a contrarian.
But the point is that you always start with the premise of I don't trust you lying pieces of shit.
That's when you start with that, it just makes it much, much easier to get these things right.
And I just don't, I don't see how there's any reasonable argument against what he's saying there, which is that, look, for the, like, again, me and you as examples, at this point, I don't even know exactly, Rob, like what percentage of people have had COVID at least once at this point.
I mean, everyone but Howard Stern.
Yeah, like it's right.
I mean, it's got to be a very high percentage.
So of those, of all of the people who did not get the jab, most of them, I think, are in our position where they got the germ, you know?
And most of the people I know, almost everyone I know who got the jab also got COVID at some point.
But same for the people who didn't.
And now you're in the position where it's like, whatever the unknowns about this new vaccine-like technology, we're just in a position where we don't have to, at least for ourselves, worry about that.
And we got better immunity without it.
How do you really argue against this?
And there's nothing like, it's not as if we escape that completely, because if you are worried about the effects, as Scott Adams says, five years down the road or whatever from the vaccine, it's not like all of us don't have people we love who have who have gotten vaccinated.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's not like we completely escape that fear.
But it's kind of cool to see him admit that.
Just cool and rare.
So I'll, you know, I'm happy.
Like, I uh, I'm happy to give credit to people who were wrong about something and can admit that they were wrong.
So I got no problem with that.
I don't feel that way.
What, how do you feel?
I'm not working with perfect information here because I don't remember quite what he said, but I feel like he was using his intellect to throw shame on people that were vaccinated and calling it dumb.
And I think anyone who really look at look, yes, unvaccinated.
I think anyone who is doing their homework and being honest in reviewing the information, this was very obvious.
I don't think it took a brilliant intellect or a gamble to look through the COVID hysteria and this massive campaign to forcibly vaccinate people.
Yeah.
It did not take brilliance.
Well, it's also not.
Yeah.
Listen, listen, there's nothing, nothing that we ever get right takes brilliance.
That's the truth.
And it wasn't a gamble either.
It wasn't.
Yeah.
Like it's not that there's nothing that we get right here that we get right because we're so super smart and are just can see things that the average person couldn't see because of our level of brilliance.
It's just having like a healthy skepticism of power and then really trying to examine the information from an honest way.
And look, I will agree with you that there's much more of an excuse.
You know, people who, if you say like March 12th, 2020, when there really wasn't a lot of data out on COVID yet, and when the people were like, really didn't know what the death rate was going to be and how bad this thing was going to be.
And when, you know, politicians were saying 15 days to flatten the curve.
Just give us a couple weeks off.
There's a much, you have a much better excuse for falling for that than you do for falling for all of the propaganda around the jabs.
Like that, because at that time, at least there was a lot unknown.
It wasn't clear how bad this thing was going to be.
And the ask was very reasonable.
The ask of like two weeks so the hospital system isn't overrun.
That's what all the experts are saying.
Now, we, I think even then, like we just come into this with like a little bit more of like a background in knowing what lying sociopaths all these people are and how they're wrong about everything.
So it was much easier for us to go like, well, yeah, I don't care if everyone in the in the corporate press and everyone in like the, you know, state medical, you know, um complex is saying this.
That doesn't really mean anything.
Bill Gates Vaccine Doubts00:09:48
You know what I mean?
Like you need like, so so it's just a lot easier to kind of even see through like, no, if the government asks you for two weeks and you give them full authority for two weeks, you're not getting that back in two weeks.
In fact, you may never get a lot of it back.
But by the time that the vaccine regime was coming up, you got to remember this is almost a full year later.
A full year of like all the lies and bullshit around COVID and having, just having all of the information about who was actually vulnerable to this to this virus, who wasn't what, you know, like tons of data at that point by the time you're talking what early in 2021.
When did the vaccines actually start getting distributed?
It wasn't until, was it February or March of 2021, something like that?
But regardless, like maybe even later, it might have even been later than that.
You had like a year worth of data.
And then you also could easily look at the fact that, you know, this vaccine was rushed.
It was experimental.
It had been given emergency approval, that it, that they were shielded from, that the companies were shielded from liability.
Just a lot of things that were pretty easy to see about it.
And then, of course, more and more data about the actual vaccines became available.
I do agree with you that it did not take a genius to see what was going on here.
And he's still kind of just playing it off as, yeah, the people that just say everything out of government's a lie got lucky on this one.
They just got lucky on this one.
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Like I said, I don't have all the information on what he said previously to criticize him, but he's a really smart guy and he's particularly well-versed in like psychological biases and the way that people process information.
So there's something fishy to me about the fact that he was on board with the vaccine regiment this entire time.
And then once it becomes so obvious that you can't support it in any capacity, it's like kind of conveniently late to switch over.
Even if you're being honest about it, it's a little bit too late.
Also, relative to how arrogantly you were giving people a hard time for having a different opinion.
Yeah, you know, you've kind of convinced me, Rob.
I think that it's like, it's almost like the rate of how shitty you were to people should like correspond to how much of an apology you owe when you realize you were wrong about the whole thing.
So we've basically, though, we've looked at two different ways that people who got all of this wrong have handled it.
There was Joe Scarborough.
You're all still morons.
Yeah, I guess Scott Adams is the better of the two.
Okay.
And if I, you know, Joe Scarborough is saying, if I had just been vaccinated more, I would have wouldn't have gotten COVID.
Here's a third.
Wait, can I just say one more thing on Scott Adams?
Here's the other thing.
Based on what I've seen from him, it's not enough because now he goes, oh, I'm looking at the current condition.
It turns out the vaccines didn't work the way that they said it was going to work.
So looks like you guys are right.
But where's the review?
Where's the look back on why you got it wrong?
Yeah.
That like that, then I would go, oh, because if you have an honest intellect, that's the way you approach it.
You go, wow, this is really interesting to me.
I clearly got this wrong and other people really clearly got this right.
I'm going to do a look back on this.
Oh, here's where my intellect read me astray.
Here was the mistake I made.
Here's the information.
You know what I mean?
You kind of have to do a review to go, hey, I've purged what was wrong in my critical thinking.
Or at least attempting to.
At least attempting to grapple with it.
Yeah, without something along those lines, I don't know.
You haven't been cleaned of your, cleansed of your sins.
Yes, I agree.
Well, here, Rob, I'll give you a third, a third way, as I believe Adolf Hitler used to say.
Here's a third, a third position.
Is it a final way?
It's kind of.
Here's another way to handle being wrong about everything.
Let's queue up America's leading scientist, Bill Gates.
Anyway, so antibodies, antivirals.
We think we can also have very early in an epidemic, the thing you can inhale that will mean that you can't be infected, a blocker, an inhaled blocker.
We also need to fix the three problems with vaccines.
The current vaccines are not infection blocking.
They're not broad.
So when new variants come up, you lose protection and they have very short duration, particularly in the people who matter, which are old people.
And every one of those things is fixable.
In fact, doing that work is going to help vaccinology very, very broadly.
No, that's it.
That's the video.
It's just, this was everything that was conspiracy three months ago.
This is my point.
This is the third way.
This is the third way is that you just casually rattle it off as if this isn't even news or anything, just kind of very casually going, like that was Bill Gates just casually going.
I mean, the vaccines suck, but you know, there's lots of other things that we could be doing.
The vaccine is just like, they're not very effective.
And, you know, they don't stop you from getting it.
And they wane very quickly and they don't do well with mutations.
But what we're going to do is we're going to try, you know, it's all fixable.
And then we could have this thing you inhale maybe that kind of blocks like just talking about ideas that they may be able to develop in a future, but very casually just lets you know that all of the shit that meant that you were completely demonized for saying that you were completely, that it was all right.
All this, all this propaganda, safe and effective and 90% protection and all this stuff that they used to say, just all very casual.
So this to me, by the way, is the most disgusting of all three.
Of all three ways to handle it, this one is the most just reprehensible.
At least Scarborough's dug in and calling you a moron and still arguing his dumbass point.
At least that, you know, you, okay, we can argue about this now.
Scott Adams, okay, fine.
You make a good point.
Not the, maybe the apology that he owed, but at least admits I was wrong and you guys were right.
Bill Gates is going to, after demagoguing this issue for three years, he's just going to casually sit there and go, yeah, and we know that this is a thing that, as you said, you were a conspiracy theorist who must be silenced and driven out of polite society just a year and a half ago, if you had said this, probably still a year ago.
You know what I mean?
You would actually, they'd be like, you ought to be a second class citizen, not allowed in businesses.
You know, they were, they were, remember when they were like talking about not allowing you in grocery stores?
Like they were the, and now he's just out there.
Yeah, just saying this.
I mean, we all know it.
I think real investigative journalists need to be writing a story on, firstly, Bill Gates' involvement before pandemic in investing in these vaccines and also that simulation that they did about what if there was like a new virus.
Two, after the thing came out, his personal profits, why he was looked on as some sort of a science expert, his relationship with the World Health Organization, and every single step of the way, what he did to try and educate people on the value of the vaccines and then also kind of push all of these authoritarian measures to make sure that people are taking the vaccines.
And then weigh that against this exact moment.
And either he needs to answer for, well, when did he know this new information that is contrary to everything I seem to remember him preaching up until this point of view.
And then if it's just new education for him, then he probably needs to get out of the science game and he should no longer be looked upon as a health expert.
The fact that every single news organization is still willing to have a conversation with him and not just laugh him out of a room for being either a complete liar or just completely wrong is firstly, it's insulting to individuals.
And then also like, you're lying too.
That's propaganda.
If you guys are in the.
If you guys are here to give people honest information, then have a conversation with the people that got this right.
Don't have a conversation with the guy who got it wrong and then continue to pretend like he's a health expert or that he's got some sort of a valuable perspective on this topic.
He should be laughed out of a room.
Yeah, of course.
You're absolutely right.
It's just so interesting.
Real Deaths vs Abstraction00:07:04
And I guess it'll be a little while before we know exactly how these things, like what the ultimate effect of all of this stuff is going to be.
And then when it, when the effect comes, it's, it's easy to, it's like what Rothbard used to say about inflation, is that you have all this money printing.
The inflation doesn't come immediately.
It comes later.
And then they can always blame it on something else, you know?
But if you go, you know, if you think about something like thinking about, think about like the war in Iraq, and there's this huge war that's just sold to the American people on lies.
They all turn out to be lies.
And you go like, well, what's the effect of that?
Well, I don't know, but it's, it's kind of like what followed it in society.
You know, it's like Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders and Antifa and the, you know, like all these things that like, no, I'm not saying that that alone caused all of them, but it certainly was like a big factor.
This was a huge thing that America launched this huge war that was a complete disaster.
And same in Afghanistan, this, the war being, you know, just a humiliating defeat and all of this stuff.
And it's like, this, this has a real effect whether when you look at like trust in institutions and polarization of the country and just things coming unglued and stuff like that.
Some of it good, some of it bad.
But it really is something that's like that is nothing.
And I don't mean, I don't mean to diminish like the war in Iraq.
I mean, I'm not saying it's not nothing to the hundreds of thousands of people who died and the tens of millions whose lives were ruined.
You know what I mean?
But I'm just saying to it is nothing in terms of how much it affected the average American compared to COVID.
Like this wasn't something that we did to some little country halfway around the world that we can kind of like, you almost, you have to almost like, even when me or you are outraged about the war in Iraq, it's still kind of an abstraction to us.
You know, you have to like think about the fact that these are real people over there and this is really horrible and kind of not so much so if like, you know, your, your brother fought over there or something like that.
But it's a, but this COVID was like upended everybody's way of life.
There's like no one escaped it.
Even people like me and you who reasonably escaped the insanity as much as possible.
It's not still like we didn't have tons of gigs canceled and our lives were different.
I mean, I moved out of New York City over the response to COVID.
You know what I mean?
Like it affected all of our lives.
Or you moved out too, right?
You were living there before COVID.
So it's just like this profound thing.
And we really came out of it kind of unscathed compared to most people.
We weren't forced to take product, medical products we didn't want to take.
We didn't lose our jobs.
We were able to continue doing what we're doing, you know, compared to what a lot of people went through.
It was we got had nothing.
But to just the fact that this was done and that it's just so obvious that they were wrong about all of it.
Regardless if Joe Scarborough wants to dig his heels in, he's just getting annihilated online for doing it.
You know, all the rest of them are admitting it in one way or the other.
That's just really, it's going to be interesting to see like what effect does that have on the country going forward.
You'd hope at the very least, like that the, you know, the next time there's like the big moment like in March of 2020 when they're like, well, we just need 15 days or something like that, that people would just be like, nah, we don't buy it.
And that there'd be like a large enough percentage of people who are just like, we do not believe you at all.
But we'll see.
We'll see about that.
I think the only way that they're going to be able to sell whatever the next authoritarian measure is is there's going to have to be more panic that they can actually solve.
So I think they probably exhausted the terrorist card.
I think they've probably exhausted the pandemic card.
And I think that's why you probably hear the who talking about food shortages or why you hear them talking about electrical grid failures.
It's specifically because they probably can't sell us on those last ones again.
Well, it's going to be hard.
You know, it's going to be hard to get that out of climate change, I think.
You know, it's hard.
Climate change is still, it's such an abstraction and it's always in the future.
There's no, none of them can even look at you in the eyes and be like, you know, next month, the world is like, no, I don't know.
You're not.
And that's not as real or tangible as like those buildings just blew up or this virus is coming here now.
But I guess they, it's odd because if you look at COVID, a lot of what people hated about it was actually the government's response to COVID.
But it gets grouped together in people's heads about how horrible it was.
And that's why so many people were like, hey, you got to go comply because it's only if you comply that what I can get away from the government restrictions that I'm not listening to anyways.
The thing that's ruining your life is the government restrictions.
Oh, yeah.
You're being the dumbass and listening to it.
You can end up with the very, and I'm not, I'm not forecasting that this will happen, but you can end up with a very similar thing with kind of green energy where suddenly we do have massive problems of a lack of energy or resources that we need because of the actions that government took.
And then they're saying, well, that's planet related.
This is global warming related, but really it has nothing to do with the global warming.
Like it has everything to do with the government response.
We could end up in a similar place.
Yeah, it's an interesting point.
And it's true.
Like there would be a lot of people in the establishment covering COVID who would cover the damage of lockdowns as the damage of COVID.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Like they'd be like, well, look what this, and then just kind of take it as like a given that like, well, we had to do lockdowns.
We all know we had to do lockdowns.
So it's like, look what COVID did.
They made they made all this horrible shit happen.
And it's like, yeah, that's, you know, it's really funny for most people.
And I'm not saying there are exceptions to this.
Obviously, there are people who died from COVID.
And, you know, as we often pointed out, should be separated from people who died with COVID.
But that's not to say that there aren't people who died of COVID.
And for the vast majority of them are very, very sick people.
But that doesn't mean it's not like awful and tragic that they died.
But for most people, you know, like me and you both got it a couple times.
And to even compare what we went through over the last few years, like that was the least of it.
It's like, oh, yeah.
And I got sick for a little bit.
To even think about even people I know who like got very sick when they got COVID, it still was probably like 10 times more of a thing that they couldn't, you know, like go out to eat or couldn't go, you know, like to work or whatever than it was that they got real sick for a couple of weeks.
Project Veritas Glimpse00:08:15
I don't know.
It's just, it's not even comparable.
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It'll be interesting to see what happens with all this other stuff.
It'll be interesting.
There's no question, as we predicted very early on, that the next thing is this climate stuff.
They've really ramped that up and that's going to be the next thing they're pushing now.
It'll be interesting.
I'm hoping, hoping that there is a substantial amount of leftover discrediting of all of the experts and that people will be much more suspicious of them.
But we'll see.
Okay, before we wrap this some bitch up, I don't know if you caught this, Rob.
There's this new Project Veritas video that just came out where they got, who is it?
It was the Pfizer employee who was caught on one of these secret cameras that they do.
I didn't love it.
Did you watch it?
Yeah, I watched a bit of it.
What did you think?
Firstly, I don't love the style of Project Veritas has just propagandish feel to it in that like sometimes they're really dressing up smaller things as if they're like complete bombshells.
And I like things to be, I guess, sold to me a little bit just the way they are.
Like you can just kind of give me the information.
And I don't love the dirty tricks that they're using.
Now, if you were to expose serious bombshells by getting people drunk at a bar, like, you know what I mean?
If you got, if you got Dick Cheney drunk at a bar and he said, yeah, I caused the Iraq war because I wanted the profits and I exploded those buildings.
I go, yeah, that was fucking worth it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're never walking away with bombshells like that.
In this case, see, you've got some higher up at Pfizer.
And it's not like you're getting the guy saying, hey, we're all in this for profits.
He's still talking about trying to problem solve an actual problem.
And now there's a bit of a bombshell in there and that it sounds like they are engaging in gain of function research.
And even he knows, oh, I can't like, I shouldn't be throwing around this terms, which we're going to see in a second.
But the entire, it's like a little bit too dressed up.
Yeah.
And what I'm saying is that you didn't actually get a guy going, we're in this for profit and we invented this virus and now we're curing a virus that we invented.
There's no, you know what I mean?
You're still looking to buy.
I agree.
The other bombshell that he throws in isn't really a bombshell, but it is interesting how casually he talks about the revolving door.
And there's a part there where he's just basically like, well, look, like all these guys at like the FDA and stuff like that who are regular, you know, there's this revolving door.
They come and they work for our companies after that.
So, you know, they're not going to go that hard on us because they want to come make money with us as soon as they're done there.
And he goes, this is all over throughout the government.
And he's like, you know, that sucks for the country, but it's really great for us.
And so that, you know, it's interesting that that's how it's kind of, there is something kind of like sociopathic about the way he delivers that.
But just to kind of back up what you're saying, one of the major flaws in Project Veritas' business model.
And I know, by the way, whenever we say stuff like this, I know I'll get some shit from people who listen.
It's like people get very kind of tribal these days.
And they're like, no, they're on the good.
They're on the side that's exposing CNN.
So we're all on their side or something like that.
There's a problem where their method is usually they get like hot chicks to take guys out and like buy them drinks and everyone gets gets a little buzzed.
And then they start giving them all this information.
I think in this case, I think it's a gay dude and another dude is buying them drinks or whatever.
Or he's feeding him.
Whoever's buying the drinks doesn't really matter.
But, you know, so this is the problem is that what a lot of that comes down to is then it's like this bravado where they're like, well, let me tell you what we're doing at CNN.
You know, we're actually running everything, blah, blah, blah.
And it's not so clear that it's accurate.
It's, it's, it seems in many of these videos I've seen quite possible that what you got here is a dude trying to show off to a chick on a first date and brag about how he's really running this whole system and gaming it.
It's a little bit different than just getting a confession out of somebody.
Does that make sense?
Like it's like, oh, you're like, this may not even actually be completely accurate.
He's like, you know, people don't tend to be incredibly honest on a first date.
They tend to over inflate the fuck that Dave Smith guy.
I make all the money here and I don't care about his family.
I'm really the producer on the show.
And then you go back and play the internet and then I got to be like, yeah, I was trying to get laid.
I was talking shit.
What do you want from me?
I told her I own Gas Digital.
I don't know what to tell you.
Like even you would just expect I couldn't be mad.
You're like, what do you expect?
I'm talking shit.
I'm trying to get laid here, dude.
Like, be cool.
Be cool.
Tell this chick I own Gas Digital, dude.
Come on.
Like, so there's just that element.
And then it does at times create the impression that there's more of a bombshell here than there really is.
Not to say a lot of times we don't exactly know.
Anyway, we could just play a little bit of it so you kind of get a taste of it and then we'll wrap this some bitch up.
Pfizer ultimately is thinking about mutating COVID.
Well, that is not what we say to the public.
No, don't tell anyone those public.
We got a public don't tell you.
We got to publish.
We're exploring like now, you know how the virus keeps mutating?
Yeah.
Well, one of the things we're exploring is like, why don't we just mutate it ourselves so we could work on new vaccines, right?
So we have to do that.
If we're going to do that, though, there's a risk of like, as you could imagine, no one wants to be having a pharma company mutating viruses.
Be like very controlled to make sure that there's virus that you mutate.
It doesn't create something like, you know, everywhere.
Something crazy.
It's the way that the virus started.
It would have happened.
To be honest, like it makes no sense if these viruses pop out of nowhere.
Yeah, I know.
Me Jordan Tristan Walker.
It does, it does seem to me like this has a hint of that aspect to it, too.
It's like, don't tell anyone, don't tell anyone.
But here, I'm giving you, there's once you're going, here's some real top secret shit that I know that nobody else knows.
It already seems to have an element of like, this guy's trying to look cool.
Like he's, he's trying to build himself up as like, ooh, the guy who knows the inside scoop about this.
And then once that happens, I'm like, I don't know exactly how much you can, you can take this, you know, how much you can take this to the bank, that this is actually accurate information.
Just a thought.
It is interesting that he says in it that he, you know, believes COVID was man-made to begin with.
It's interesting that he openly talks about the revolving door, that that's what it actually looks like on the inside, that they all know this shit.
You know, it's fairly obvious, but it's still interesting to hear from him.
It's interesting talking about kind of doing what he claims isn't gain of function research, but is at least what the layman understands as gain of function research.
So anyway, I don't know.
I thought it was interesting, a little bit of a glimpse into what some higher ups at Pfizer are, you know, what they're thinking and what they're acting like.
I also do say take it with a grain of salt.
But any final thoughts on that?
Love to see that guy's HR meeting on Monday.
Inside the Revolving Door00:01:32
Oh, dude.
You know, I said, you know, I used to joke around, like, I'd say it's CNN at their morning meetings every day.
They'd be like, and again, for the 25th time, if a hot chick takes you out to get drinks and starts asking you about the inner workings of CNN, that is Project Veritas.
She is not really interested in you.
Like, I wonder what the end of these things are always like when the cameras go off and they're just like, oh, just got a text.
My apartment's on fire.
Got to go.
The even sicker thing is if the Project Veritas journalists have already slept with these individuals, which I'm not saying that that's the way that they do operate.
I'm just saying that if that is the way they're operating, that's that's like that.
That's some CIA level darkness right there.
Should be like that guy's there.
He's like, okay, so I get the information out of them.
And then like, how do I get out of there?
And they're like, oh, you're going to have to blow them.
No, no, no.
Like, well, you'll get a really good video.
No, I'm saying if they've been on a couple dates and this is like third date, kind of likes the person energy where they're starting to talk about their job, hammered.
Oh, boy.
Yeah.
Well, who knows?
Let's hope that's not the case.
All right.
Look, we're going to wrap up there.
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