Dave Smith, battling illness from his daughter, argues libertarians must passionately sell the beauty of peace and non-aggression rather than pretending a free marketplace exists amidst government distortion. He critiques the suppression of free speech in campus culture wars and April 2020 lockdowns, noting private entities often act as bidding agents for state authoritarianism. Ultimately, defending the status quo in government-run spaces is ugly; true liberty requires rolling back power to restore beauty against rising totalitarianism. [Automatically generated summary]
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Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
I'm Dave Smith, and I am flying solo for today's episode.
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So keep your eyes peeled for that.
But for today's episode, I have something a little bit different planned.
I'm just, I've got a little bit of a rant, of a tangent that I want to go on.
And I'm not, this isn't completely together in my head.
So I'm trying to, you know, I'm trying to get this all together.
Full disclosure, I am a little bit under the weather.
For those of you who are suspecting, I'm part of the group who got taken down by Skank Fest.
That is not true.
It was not the festival in Vegas last week.
I came back feeling fine and great and was doing great all week.
But I do have a little kid in preschool and they get a whole lot of germs there in preschool.
And so she was actually under the weather while I was gone and then got my wife sick and my boy sick.
And now I'm a little bit under the weather as well.
So I'm a little bit in a borderline, feverish, hallucinogenic state as I record this episode.
But I've got this idea in my head of stuff I want to talk to you guys about.
So this one may, it may not work, but I think it might.
I think it might.
Okay.
So today, my wife and daughter were gone for a little bit and they went to the doctor and then they went over to my mother-in-law's house.
And I was home with my boy and he's a little baby.
So he takes multiple naps a day.
And while he was napping, I watched two videos that are not at all related, but they did.
They both affected me.
And I wanted to kind of talk about both of them and how I see it all tying together.
I think maybe the theme or maybe the title for this episode would be something like, how we sell our ideas.
That's the broader theme of all of this.
So the first video was a Jeff Dice speech at this Mises event that they had last week.
They just put the video out today of a Jeff Dice speech.
And the speech was all about beauty.
And it was really incredible.
I got to tell you, this was one of those things where I was listening to it.
And I was like, I think it really hit home with me.
And I think I'm going to need more time to process it to really think about how important this was and what it really means.
But I will share it.
By the way, I'll share both of these in the episode description.
So, this was one speech by Jeff Dice.
I highly recommend you check it out.
And he was talking all about how we don't put nearly enough emphasis on beauty and how there's a war on beauty, and that the elite class is completely against everything that's beautiful.
And he was talking about what's beautiful with architecture and economics and life in general and all of this stuff.
And it was very interesting.
And then I watched a video that was put up on the Reason TV YouTube channel with a fellow named Chris Rufo, and they were arguing about the Stop Woke bill that I think was just passed in Florida.
Okay, so these two things are not at all related, but I see them being related in a bigger picture of how we think about our ideas.
When I say our, I mean people who believe in liberty and how we present them and what's really important about them and how this actually works to persuade other people.
So, starting with the Jeff Dice talk, there was something he was talking a lot about beauty, and I couldn't help but think about how profoundly true what he was saying was.
And the idea that there is a war on beauty, and that in so many different level areas in life, this is true.
This is true about modern America.
This is particularly true if you spend time in large cities in America in 2022.
You know, as somebody who is born and raised in New York City, you know, I go spend some time in New York City these days, and it's, you know, you notice that there's just like there's homeless people all over, and there's, you know, there's billboards with what they describe as plus-sized models and things like this.
Like, so many of the things that we would have considered, like, oh, this is beautiful in the past are now, you know, kind of like degraded, and this is celebrated.
And you're not supposed to question this, you're supposed to be all for it.
And this is just true across, you know, across modern society that there does seem to be this kind of like attack on whether you think there's someone physically as beautiful or some building as beautiful.
You know, you see like all of the like in New York City, I know this is true.
This is true really all across the country, but all of the beautiful buildings are the pre-war buildings.
And all of the new buildings are kind of like these gross robotic, you know, I mean, they might be comfortable to live inside of, but they're certainly not aesthetically pleasing from the outside.
And this might not seem like that important, but there's something about this that is connected to the way humans experience life.
There's something really profound about this.
And, you know, there's just a difference between, I think there's something Tucker Carlson said months ago, but there's something different between the feeling that you have if you're sitting in, you know, a meadow or if you're sitting in a Wendy's parking lot.
There's just something different about that.
One is preferable to the other to most people.
And human beings, when given freedom, I believe are constantly striving for beauty.
And yet, what's imposed upon them by the ruling class is constantly the opposite of that.
It reminded me of something unrelated to this kind of idea of physical beauty, but it reminded me of something that Tom Woods said, which was not what Jeff Dice was talking about.
Striving for Human Beauty00:04:23
But Tom Woods said this when we were in Pennsylvania earlier this year at the LP Pennsylvania state convention.
And it was in this little town in Pennsylvania.
I can't remember the name of the town, but some small town in Pennsylvania.
And me and Tom Woods were the keynote speakers at this event.
And then it was a cool night.
I really enjoyed it.
Me and him both gave talks.
And then we did like a question and answer segment together on stage.
And that was very cool.
Tom Woods is like a hero of mine.
And he's somebody I looked up to for many years before I kind of like got a big following.
And before this podcast took off, before I was doing this podcast, I was a big admirer of Tom Woods.
And so it was cool to like kind of share the stage with him and all of that.
Tom's a very successful guy and he's made a lot of money.
He's got a beautiful family.
He's got five daughters and he's got a, you know, he's married and he's got a beautiful home and all of this stuff.
And he really didn't need to be in some small town in Pennsylvania.
And someone asked him at one point why he does this, like why he continues to kind of like promote, you know, the idea of a free society, the idea of liberty, libertarianism.
And Tom said, and this stuck with me.
I remember hearing this and being like, man, this really resonates with me.
He goes, you know, there's a lot of reasons, blah, blah, blah.
My friends are here.
I like these people.
I want to help this group.
You know, he wanted to help the Mises caucus, who ended up taking over the state party that the next day.
And then, of course, taking over the entire Libertarian Party a couple months later.
But he said, I think the main thing that drives me about promoting liberty is that I just, I find these ideas to be beautiful.
And I really, I think they're just, I love them.
And there's something about that that really stuck with me.
Like, it was like, I really think that's at the essence a lot of what drives me too.
I just, and I bet a lot of people who have really like taken a deep dive into libertarian theory, I bet a lot of people can relate to that.
Part of it is just like, man, these ideas are beautiful.
Like the idea of, you know, peace and prosperity and non-aggression, and the fact that the societies that are more peaceful and more built around non-aggression end up flourishing more.
There's something really beautiful about all of that.
And, you know, civilization in a way is really beautiful.
It's a really beautiful thing.
There's true beauty in the fact that we live in this world that not one of us alone could create.
Yet when we all come together and play our small parts, we all get to live within with all of this beauty around us.
And I think that's, I think that's really important.
I think that it's really important if we want to persuade other people to our ideas to kind of like exude that and express that, that we stand for what's beautiful.
I don't know how else exactly to say it, but that we stand for what's beautiful and what's right and what's just.
When you think about it in a way, justice is beautiful and morality is beautiful and so many of these things.
We all kind of love and yearn for beauty.
And that's not just in like people, like we want beauty in the person we marry and in our children.
And I don't just mean like physical beauty.
I mean like in the relationship itself.
There's something beautiful about that.
Like we, when you watch a movie and the hero is on the brink of defeat and then comes back and perseveres and ends up winning, there's something beautiful about that.
We all like something from our guts responds to beauty.
Selling Ideas with Justice00:13:56
And I don't know.
I just think it's a theme that is very under examined.
And so this Jeff Day speech really stuck with me.
I'm going to be thinking about this.
Sometimes you hear something and you're like, I'm going to be thinking about this for a while.
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So anyway, that was on my mind.
And then I watched this video, the Reason magazine video with what's his name, Chris Rufo, and they were debating over this stop woke act.
And it was, you know, Chris was on there and he was on there with Nick and with Zach, who I like both of them very much.
I did not think they did a good job.
I really did not think they did a good job.
I thought they kind of gave a clinic on how to not sell our ideas to people.
But I don't know why this was all like connected in my mind.
Maybe it's just because I watched it all in the same day, but I was watching it and I was thinking to myself, okay, here's a great way to present our ideas.
And here is not the right way to present our ideas.
One of them works and one of them doesn't.
And, you know, I don't know.
I'm not saying I'm not the expert on how to sell our ideas.
There's people who do it better than me.
I do it pretty good.
You know, I think I at least have earned a seat at the table of giving my opinion on this.
I've been able to successfully convince a lot of people that, you know, these ideas have some merit to them.
But If I was going to take a look at like how liberty-minded people should be selling their ideas in 2022, and this isn't even like to suggest like whether you're whatever political party you might be a part of or not being in a political party, that's beside the point.
I'm just talking about like how to sell ideas.
Although, if you are a member of the Libertarian Party, this might be particularly relevant for you, seeing as how selling your ideas is a lot more important than if you're a Democrat or a Republican.
That's just the nature of being a third party is like you really got to sell people on what you believe in because the other ones are almost like starting with this unfair advantage over you, where most people assume already that they believe in what those people believe in, even though that's not so clear.
But regardless, if you're a libertarian in the libertarian party, you really got to convince people, hey, this is what I'm selling, and this is what you should buy, these ideas.
So I'd say that there's this is what I would say the basics of it are, right?
Number one, the beauty that I was talking about that I think Tom Woods was getting at in that speech, and that I'm extrapolating from Jeff Dice's speech, even though I don't think this is exactly what he was saying, is that there's beauty in believing in something passionately and trying to express that to other people.
I think that in itself is a beautiful thing.
And there's true beauty in believing in something unpopular and trying to express that and convince other people of that.
I think that's something important to always remember.
But if you want to sell something to someone, it can't just be the beautiful ideas.
That's important.
It's a prerequisite, but it can't just be that alone.
That's just not enough.
It's also got to, it has to address what people really care about.
And so this is something that is even though I and Tom Woods and other people have like he made that point that I'm referring to now that he really loved how beautiful these ideas are.
That in itself will not be enough to sell your ideas to a large group of people.
And this is a huge problem that a lot of libertarians have is I think they get wrapped up in the beauty of their philosophy and forget about what's really leading to beauty or not leading to beauty in real life in regular people's lives.
I remember when I was, you know, when I first became a libertarian, I was much younger than I am now.
I mean, much younger, but 15 years younger than I am now.
And it was in 2007, the first time I found libertarianism.
And as I got into it, I was really into the beauty of the philosophy.
And I was like totally into just like abstract philosophical conversations.
As I've gotten older, and now I'm just in a different situation.
I'm a husband and a father.
I have a, you know, I mean, I'm in the entertainment business, but I'm a pretty successful business man, I suppose you could say.
I've got more immediate practical concerns than I ever had when I first started this.
And ideas are great, but I can understand a lot more where if you're going to sell people on something, you have to have serious proposals, serious analysis of what's actually, you know, our problems in their lives and what the solutions to those problems are.
And it can't just be like, well, I have this philosophy that we should all be better.
You have to actually address the crises that that person is facing.
And these days, people in America are facing, there's a whole host of crises that they're facing.
So that's something to keep in mind.
One of the major crises in America right now is that we're slipping into a totalitarian mindset.
We're slipping, which is the opposite of beauty.
It's everything that crushes beauty.
And this is what a lot of people will call, you know, wokeism or whatever.
Whatever term you want to use to call it, people call it critical race theory or, you know, I've heard people call it cultural Marxism, whatever you want to call it.
The truth is that people are more and more unable to speak their minds.
Again, I think something that is the opposite of beauty, that is anti-beauty, people being afraid to say the wrong thing.
And I don't just mean this, this is not just a conversation of like the role of the state and the individual.
I'm just talking about as a culture, like throughout our society.
And perhaps it's some libertarians could argue that like, well, we don't really have anything to say about that.
You know, if there's social pressure against certain ideas, then okay, I guess that's fine.
But that's kind of, yeah, I don't know.
I mean, yes, there are, I'm sure there are some ideas that maybe shouldn't be, there should be cultural pressure against speaking.
But again, libertarians, I don't think should be as beautiful as the philosophy of libertarianism is, I don't think there's any beauty in libertarians being reduced to saying, I am as a human being, completely reduced to a theory between the relationship of the state and the individual and nothing more than that.
I think that's almost like robotic in a way.
And there are currently, I would argue, in American culture, there are a lot of ideas that you should be allowed to say, including believing in liberty, that are many people don't feel free to say.
So in other words, I'm not even talking, forget like the government policies.
I'm talking about if you were opposed to lockdowns in April of 2020, forget the government policies for a second, leaving that aside.
I'm just saying, like, imagine trying to argue that in a college campus.
Or imagine trying to argue that in, you know, just a circle of friends in like, you know, left-leaning, a left-leaning group of friends in a big city or something like that.
The amount of social pressure that you would feel to not take that position, how much you would be demonized.
You know, forget the fact that you might be kicked off of social media and how much government involvement there is in social media or something like that.
But imagine just tweeting that I oppose lockdowns because I believe in liberty in April of 2020.
And how much, you know, some of us know better than others, but imagine how much just like, you know, verbal abuse you would be subject to.
Just take a second and think about that.
Is that something that we should just ignore?
Think about that.
Is that something that you'd say, well, let the market decide or whatever?
I mean, I guess, but we're the market, right?
Like, if we're just talking about people, then we're all part of this marketplace.
I would think that this to me, especially, I mean, okay, if there's almost like one angle where you're like, well, imagine the government didn't exist and this was just happening.
I'd still be against it.
But now, you know, we're talking about lockdown.
So the government does exist.
This is all happening.
And then there's also this social pressure on top of it to go along with what the government is pushing on people.
And that to me seems like, you know, if you look at all of these, if you look at authoritarian societies, it's almost never just state authoritarianism.
There's always a culture around that that upholds the state authoritarianism.
In the most extreme examples, you can look at, you know, a place like North Korea, where individual citizens are encouraged to rat on their fellow individual citizens who, you know, violates any government, you know, edict or whatever.
And this was true in the Soviet Union.
This was true in Nazi Germany.
This was true in 2020 in the United States of America.
There were big campaigns to encourage citizens to rat out other citizens.
Oh, if you see someone who's not socially distancing, you see someone who's not wearing masks, New York City had like a text line open to rat out any of your other fellow New Yorkers who you saw who weren't following the rules.
There's a cultural aspect to this that is maybe not strictly, you know, a violation of libertarian theory, but is man sure ain't in the spirit of it.
And now we have a situation where on, you know, on social media, in college campuses, in publications, in polite society, people are afraid to speak their mind.
And this is, I don't know, if you're just denying that this exists, like, I don't think you're living in reality.
This is just the case.
The Illusion of Free Markets00:11:35
And that is not good.
It's the opposite of beautiful.
Beautiful is people being able to speak their minds.
Liberty is people being able to speak their minds.
This is dystopian and ugly and gross.
And I don't think it's a coincidence that as this happens, beauty around us is collapsing.
And as this happens, you know, You walk through the like, like where the epicenter of these areas where people are afraid to speak their minds are also the areas, like big cities say, are also the areas where there's like homeless encampments, tent cities, and litter on the ground and graffiti on the walls, and like all this shit.
You know what I mean?
It's like, there's, I think there's something like related about that.
So, anyway, in this recent video, Nick and Zach were arguing with this guy, Chris, about his support of the Stop Woke Act.
And I don't know, I, you know, I'd have to look through the details of the bill, but basically, the bill, the idea is to make it illegal in public schools and universities, and I think even in some private businesses, to push racism, but including anti-white racism.
Like it's illegal to push the idea of like one race being superior or inferior to the other.
And there, you know, you have to look into it.
I'll put the video in the link so you can listen to what these guys are saying.
And a huge part of the issue with how poorly Nick and Zach did in this video is that they're kind of arguing that, like, well, we don't want there to be government intervention into the free marketplace of ideas.
And the problem with that is that it doesn't deal with the reality of the situation.
The reality of the situation is that we're not in a free marketplace of ideas.
Now, I don't agree with Rufo on all of the things he said.
I think he got some things wrong in this discussion.
But he did a really good job of challenging them from the libertarian perspective.
And he's not a libertarian.
And he made that very clear.
He's like, I'm not a libertarian, so I don't have to follow these rules.
But you're a libertarian.
So you really should be against all of this even existing.
You know, you should be against the Civil Rights Act even existing.
And you should be against public schools existing.
You should be against, you know, all of these kind of monopolies and cartels and all of this.
And they seem to not want to agree with that.
And they were like, no, well, you know, we think you should push school choice, or we're for the Civil Rights Act, but we don't think it should go any further than that.
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Here's what I'll say: there's a big split right now.
There's a big issue that libertarians are going to have to address and find a way to successfully address this.
So the criticism of libertarianism, and this is something I've noticed in a lot of the response videos that I've done over the last month and a half or so.
There's been libertarians have been getting a lot more high profile, say, right-wingers coming at us doing pieces about what's wrong with libertarianism.
You know, I did a response video to Stephen Crowder and Alex Jones and Ben Shapiro and Dennis Prager.
All of these people have been coming at us lately.
And of course, I think that is somewhat related to what we've been doing.
You know, as when libertarians were just pushing wokeism, I think the right-wingers weren't as concerned.
They were probably happy that the libertarians were maybe splitting some of the Democratic vote or something like that.
But now that the libertarians are, you know, a little bit more serious and a little bit less goofy, woke, they're like, ah, shit, we got to like take these guys on.
But anyway, that's beside the point.
This is something to the, you know, to the crux of how we sell our ideas, because I do believe our ideas are correct.
Otherwise, I wouldn't, you know, believe in them.
So I think that this is the big criticism that we're getting from people on the right wing.
And it goes something like this.
It goes, okay, libertarianism is kind of good in theory.
I like it.
All right.
People ought to be free.
Sure.
But that ain't the world we live in.
And the idea that government should be limited in what they can do and private interests should have freedom to do what they want to do.
That might be nice on paper.
But here's the situation right now.
The situation is that these private companies are doing the bidding of a totalitarian government.
And if the libertarian position is like, well, those private companies can do whatever they want to do, that is insufficient to deal with this problem that we have.
And there is a lot of truth to that argument.
It's flawed.
It's a flawed argument because the truth is that if the government was limited in what it could do, then private companies wouldn't be working at the behest of a totalitarian government because there wouldn't be a totalitarian government because the government would be limited in what it could do.
So, right?
So that's, but a lot of libertarians almost, so I first, so I think the argument is kind of flawed and stupid.
I'm like, well, no, the issue there isn't that you have private companies.
The issue is that you have a totalitarian government who's making these companies do their bidding, or even the companies are happily willing to do their bidding.
The issue still is the totalitarian government.
That's what we need to fight.
That's the crux of the problem.
And so that's what we should be against.
And a lot of times these guys would be coming at us with this attitude of like, well, what the libertarians are saying is those private companies should be able to do whatever they want.
And I got to at least acknowledge that that is what so many of the Beltway libertarians are saying.
They are actually saying that.
They're actually saying, well, Twitter's a private company.
They should be able to do whatever they want.
Even though we know that it's like the government putting pressure on Twitter to make sure that they censor all of these people.
And the same with the rest of the social media companies.
And so, again, it's like if you have these public schools or public colleges or private colleges that take government money, the idea that libertarians are saying, oh yeah, they should be able to do what they want.
Well, no, they fucking shouldn't.
They shouldn't be able to do what they want.
I mean, certainly not if they're being influenced by the government.
And if, you know, the, you could say ideally that we would just smash this whole system.
And so this also ultimately, I think, is a fair response to what guys like Rufa are saying is that it's like, well, look, I mean, if you're going to have these progressive systems, then you're going to be fighting a losing battle.
So do what you can maybe to stop the bleeding with saying, hey, you're not allowed to teach that white people are the devil or that black people are the devil for that matter.
But if you ever really want to solve this problem, you're going to have to eliminate this cartel.
You're going to have to work to roll it back at least.
I think that's a reasonable thing for libertarians to say if we want to sell our ideas.
But to just take the position, which it seemed like Nick and Zach, certainly Nick, maybe less Zach, but that Nick was saying, it's like, hey, college, college is just a marketplace of ideas.
Let the best ideas win.
Why do you have to come in with this stop woke bill and enforce what can or can't be said?
I mean, come on.
Come on.
You have these government institutions, either financed by government or just straight up run by the government.
And there's already tons of rules about what can and can't be said.
And whether they're just enforced by state law or they're just enforced by the culture, I mean, who the fuck cares when it's a state-run organization?
You have a state-run college that's pushing like all of this critical race theory woke insanity, which every one of them would admit is insane if pressed on it enough.
If you actually press them on the actual ideas, they'd admit it.
So, okay.
So you're saying like, oh, if there was some law that says you can't teach this anymore, we're like, oh, well, that's interfering in the marketplace of free ideas.
Well, okay, there's lots of things that you can't push there.
Lots of ideas that you couldn't, you know.
You could say, oh, that's the marketplace.
But is it really the market?
Is it really the market that what the kids who get loans from the government to go to a government subsidized school are what they choose or don't choose?
Is that really the marketplace?
I don't think so.
And, you know, it's not as if like if any professor was pushing, say, black privilege or Jewish privilege or Asian privilege even, they'd be shut down immediately.
But if they're preaching white privilege, they'll be fine.
So is it that crazy that there'd be a law that says you can't do that?
Look, I'm not even saying you have to support that.
I think a libertarian could quite justly just support getting the government out of all of this stuff.
All I'm saying is if we want to sell our ideas, don't pretend we're living in a free market right now.
It's a huge mistake libertarians make.
Rejecting Societal Ugliness00:04:54
It's a huge mistake.
This is true in so many different areas in life in general, that libertarians will sell things as if we're living in a free market when we're clearly not.
We're clearly living in the furthest thing from it.
So that's a big, that's a big rule.
Like, don't pretend we're living in a free market and don't shy away from beauty.
These are two lessons that I'm really trying to like help people understand.
There's things that I've been talking about for the last few years that I think are, you know, and I gotta spend more time thinking about this, but I really think are consistent with what Jeff was talking about in his speech.
This idea of beauty.
I think, I think a lot of like, you know, you see like social justice warriors doing their like protests where it'll be like a bunch of like like fat naked chicks, like just screaming.
You know what I mean?
Whatever the memes are of like Trump won.
Ah, it's like some fucking like just really gross person in a sports brawl like howling at the moon.
And you're like, this is the ugliest thing I've ever seen in my life.
I don't know.
I just think there's something about like how we should oppose ugliness and support beauty.
And again, I don't mean to reduce this to just like, oh, if a person is physically ugly, there are unattractive people who are beautiful, if that makes sense.
But I think that libertarians, if we want to sell the idea of liberty and peace and prosperity and civilization, always keep an eye toward what is beautiful and what is destructive.
And then what are people really struggling with?
We shouldn't be on the side of like our society being degraded to the point of ugliness.
And I also think that as I was mentioning, you know, with this, which is why I think it's kind of related to the idea of what they were arguing about on this recent podcast.
I think that when it comes to government institutions or government property, government programs, government organizations, we see that it's riddled with ugliness.
It's riddled with anti-beauty, whether this is at college campuses, whether this is on public streets, whether this is in Congress, whether this is in, you know, like anything that the government touches destroys beauty, even government buildings, you know, like all of it.
And libertarians should never be in the business of defending that, because that's not what we stand for.
We don't, you know, we don't stand for like tent cities and homeless people and needles all over the ground where little kids have to walk by.
Now, you may stand for private citizens helping those homeless people.
And you know what that is?
That's beautiful.
That's beautiful, the idea that you would go out and help that homeless person or that you would do something.
You know what I mean?
Like that's a beautiful idea.
But we don't stand for, but tent cities aren't beautiful.
And it's not freedom or moral or anything like that.
And in fact, if all of that land was privatized, libertarians would completely defend people's right to evict all of those people from that area.
So, okay, I'm not saying you have to support government policies that you don't like.
You don't have to support any government policies.
But don't support the government having the status quo policy.
And if anyone else suggests the government do something to, you know, clean this up a little bit, that that's what we oppose.
That's where we draw the line, because that's not how we sell our ideas.
That's how we convince everybody that they will never want to get on board with what we're pushing.
And that's not actually what we're pushing.
That's not supposed to be what we're behind.
What we're supposed to be supporting is the ideas of rolling back government, the ideas of getting the great destroyer of beauty out of all of our lives.
So more or less, that's my ramp for today.
You let me know how you think it came off.
I know it's a little all over the place and a little under the weather, but I think there's something to it.