Part Of The Problem - Dave Smith - The Crony System
Aired: 2022-10-22
Duration: 53:46


=== Liberty Debate Stage (07:19) ===

[00:00:00]  Fill her up.
[00:00:02]  You are listening to the Gash Digital Network.
[00:00:08]  We need to roll back the state.
[00:00:10]  We spy on all of our own citizens.
[00:00:12]  Our prisons are flooded with nonviolent drug offenders.
[00:00:16]  If you want to know who America's next enemy is, look at who we're funding right now.
[00:00:22]  Every single one of these problems are a result of government being way too big.
[00:00:26]  You're listening to part of the problem on the Gash Digital Network.
[00:00:30]  Cheers your host, James Smith.
[00:00:34]  What's up, everybody?
[00:00:35]  Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
[00:00:37]  I'm Dave Smith.
[00:00:38]  He's Robbie the Fire Bernstein, King of the Caulks, COVID Jesus, our first podcast together back from our shenanigans in Las Vegas.
[00:00:47]  How are you, sir?
[00:00:48]  Oh, man, I had a great time.
[00:00:49]  It was a party.
[00:00:51]  Yeah, it sure was.
[00:00:52]  Sure was a party.
[00:00:53]  And from what I've been told, you can check out our party still.
[00:00:58]  You can still purchase the live part of the problem pay-per-view extravaganza with Sam Tripoli and Tim Dylan up at mintcomedy.com.
[00:01:07]  It's 10 bucks.
[00:01:08]  I will say well worth it.
[00:01:09]  It was really stand up from all four of us and a fun podcast afterwards.
[00:01:15]  So go check that out if you'd like to.
[00:01:16]  I think it's available till Sunday.
[00:01:18]  And when I tell you that it will, I'm not putting it out anywhere else ever.
[00:01:22]  That's it.
[00:01:23]  You could buy it or not buy it, but that's it's going to live.
[00:01:27]  And, you know, in fairness to the people who bought it, I think that should be the thing.
[00:01:31]  If you want to see it, you got to buy it.
[00:01:32]  So anyway, yeah, mintcomedy.com.
[00:01:34]  Go check that out there.
[00:01:35]  And I think all the other streams, or at least a lot of the other streams from SkankFest, are still available up there if you want to go grab them.
[00:01:42]  But yeah, we had quite a time.
[00:01:43]  The Part of the Problem shows were great.
[00:01:45]  Me and you both did a ton of other shows.
[00:01:47]  Yeah, good time.
[00:01:48]  SkangFest is a party.
[00:01:50]  That live part of the problems, though, those were pretty great.
[00:01:54]  I mean, I basically just sat back.
[00:01:56]  We had a bunch of like firepower on both shows.
[00:01:58]  Yeah.
[00:01:59]  Yeah.
[00:01:59]  No, we definitely did, but it was a fun time.
[00:02:02]  Yeah, it was interesting.
[00:02:04]  The other one we had long and BK Chris on the shows.
[00:02:09]  That was a great one, too.
[00:02:10]  Love, love talking with those guys.
[00:02:12]  All right.
[00:02:13]  So any business we got?
[00:02:15]  Me and Rob, of course, are going to be in Poughkeepsie at Laugh It Up next month.
[00:02:19]  I'll be out at the comedy store for the New Year's Eve show with Louis J. Gomez and a bunch of other great comics.
[00:02:26]  I think Zach Amiko is coming out on that one with us as well.
[00:02:29]  So yeah, a lot of fun there.
[00:02:31]  What you got coming up, Rob?
[00:02:33]  I will have a bunch of dates in the episode description, including this Saturday.
[00:02:36]  I'm in Connecticut.
[00:02:38]  If you guys want to come out, I'm headlining a gig, Powder Hill Brewery.
[00:02:41]  Two weekends from now, I'm with Justin Silver in upstate New York.
[00:02:44]  Then I am with Scott Horden doing a gig in Austin, Dallas night before that, and then Arizona end of the month.
[00:02:50]  So just check the episode description, bunch of live dates.
[00:02:53]  Hell yeah.
[00:02:54]  And you and Scott are doing a Star Wars.
[00:02:58]  We're going to talk about lessons of liberty from the Star Wars story.
[00:03:03]  All right.
[00:03:03]  There you go.
[00:03:04]  That should be fun.
[00:03:05]  I'm interested to watch that if you put that up online.
[00:03:08]  Okay.
[00:03:09]  So for today's episode, you know what?
[00:03:11]  I wanted to start a quick shout out to our boy Shane Hazel, who's running for governor there in Georgia and did a phenomenal job on the debate stage the other night.
[00:03:23]  It was, he really just fucking crushed it.
[00:03:26]  If you go check my Twitter account, I tweeted out like a compilation video of his best moments in that debate.
[00:03:34]  So great job to him fighting for liberty down there in Georgia.
[00:03:39]  Also, I wanted to give a shout out to Michael White.
[00:03:42]  He's running for Congress and he in Arkansas.
[00:03:47]  And he just also on my Twitter, if you go check it out, Comic Dave Smith, I just shared a clip of his performance.
[00:03:52]  He just had a great performance in the debate the other night.
[00:03:55]  I love those moments.
[00:03:56]  I love when someone who's like really good at advocating for liberty gets on the debate stage and is able to just fucking, you know, let some people hear our message.
[00:04:08]  Cause man, it really is compelling when compared to Democrats and Republicans.
[00:04:13]  Well, I thought the Shane one was brilliant because usually the starting point is everyone buys into we have to have government and now here are the particulars.
[00:04:22]  And then when you have someone who really just exposes, well, why am I paying for a police force that's arresting people I don't think should be arrested?
[00:04:29]  Like when he's really nailing them on some of the negative externalities of buying into this concept of government.
[00:04:36]  And they're like, wait, you're not supposed to ask me that.
[00:04:38]  You know what I mean?
[00:04:39]  Yeah.
[00:04:39]  Well, it's funny because they're like, well, I don't actually have a defense for any of this.
[00:04:43]  Like I've always been playing this game where we all just bought in to like, this is what we do.
[00:04:48]  Yeah, no, I agree with you.
[00:04:49]  It's very interesting.
[00:04:51]  I remember all of it always reminds me of Ron Paul stuff because that's like, you know, the first time I saw a libertarian in a debate, like really just right there with the other candidates, just wrecking them.
[00:05:04]  And I remember there was one moment where he goes, and this was like my introduction to libertarianism.
[00:05:11]  Like I didn't know any of this stuff at the time.
[00:05:13]  But I remember at one of them, he goes, he said, we have to ask ourselves the most important question, which is what the role of government ought to be.
[00:05:22]  And then he basically said, he goes, if the role of government is to protect liberty and property, then okay.
[00:05:29]  But if the role of government is to be the policeman of the world and then take care of everyone from cradle to grave and then regulate every nook and cranny of the economy and then print the money and then run the airline, you know, the industry and then run the just like listing things off.
[00:05:45]  And he was like, well, then, yeah, you're going to find yourself in the situation we have today where we're $30 trillion in debt and we're destroying our currency.
[00:05:51]  You know, it was 20 trillion at the time or whatever, but, you know, and we're destroying our currency and we're fighting all these stupid wars and all of this.
[00:05:58]  And I remember like, even in that moment, just being like, yeah, you know, I've never really thought of that before.
[00:06:03]  Like, what, what's the role of government?
[00:06:06]  What is a government?
[00:06:07]  Why do we have one?
[00:06:08]  What's it supposed to do?
[00:06:09]  What's it not supposed to do?
[00:06:10]  And it's amazing how you could have so many conversations about politics.
[00:06:15]  You know, you could read the New York Times every day and the Washington Post every day and watch CNN all day and watch every other presidential or senate congressional debate, gubernatorial debate where there's not a libertarian involved.
[00:06:27]  And they'll just be talking all day about politics.
[00:06:30]  And that question never comes up.
[00:06:32]  Like no one, it's not even like, oh, they have a different answer to that question.
[00:06:36]  It's just like, oh, we kind of don't, we kind of pretend that doesn't exist.
[00:06:40]  And that is what's, I think, the essence of what you were saying is that when there's a libertarian on stage with these guys, they kind of can't pretend these ideas don't exist.
[00:06:49]  And that's that, there's something beautiful about that, especially in a moment like today in America, where, you know, I think like, as we've talked about a million times, I mean, people are just so have so lost all of their trust and faith in institutions and politicians that they're just kind of open to like, okay, well, here's a whole different way to do things, a whole different party, a whole different idea that sure does make a whole lot of sense.
[00:07:13]  Now, I'm not saying that's going to result in libertarians winning all of these elections right away, but you know, you kind of got to start somewhere.

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[00:07:20]  And at least at least that that's a place to start.
[00:07:23]  So you could take that debate and put it on mute and just watch the faces of the other politicians while he's talking and how completely lost they are of like, wait, that's not the rules.
[00:07:34]  You're not supposed to be able to, it's like they're watching someone cheat in a basketball game that like someone's wearing stilts and they're too tall.
[00:07:41]  You know what I mean?
[00:07:41]  It's like they're really just lost.
[00:07:44]  And I got to work on a plug.
[00:07:45]  I just did a narration for a documentary about his run for governor called Divide and Dominate.
[00:07:49]  It's up on Vimeo.
[00:07:50]  I think it's a $4 rental and it's a cool video.
[00:07:53]  About Shane Hazel.
[00:07:54]  Yeah, about his run.
[00:07:55]  It's like very well produced.
[00:07:56]  It's like a well-produced doc.
[00:07:57]  Oh, and I narrated.
[00:07:59]  Oh, that's cool.
[00:08:00]  Yeah.
[00:08:02]  Now I almost now I really want to see that.
[00:08:04]  Okay, very cool.
[00:08:05]  Um, yeah, there's interest.
[00:08:06]  There were interesting moments that he was able to create.
[00:08:09]  Uh, at one point, Stacey Abrams was saying something about gun control, and he goes, You know, the biggest purchaser of guns of the last few years has been minority women or something like that.
[00:08:20]  And she's like, Huh?
[00:08:21]  What?
[00:08:22]  That's like it's just kind of interesting where you're like, Oh, yeah, that changes everything, doesn't it?
[00:08:27]  It's really hard, really hard to like keep your talking point going.
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=== Vaccine Liability Lawsuits (11:38) ===

[00:10:34]  All right, let's get back into the show.
[00:10:36]  So let's get into some other news.
[00:10:37]  There's several things going on that are pretty interesting.
[00:10:41]  None of them good.
[00:10:44]  Nothing good.
[00:10:45]  No good news.
[00:10:46]  So I know you saw, Rob, that the, so the CDC there, I'm not sure exactly where this is in the process.
[00:10:54]  Last I had followed, it was that their committee had voted to recommend adding the COVID vaccine to the list of required vaccinations for kids to go to school.
[00:11:10]  And then they sent it over to the CDC, who still had to sign off on it, but it was, it seemed like an all but foregone conclusion that they were going to sign off on that.
[00:11:18]  I'm not sure if they officially have signed off or not.
[00:11:21]  Either way, it looks like this is going to happen.
[00:11:24]  And this would be the CDC now recommending that this vaccine get added to the list of vaccinations that are required for kids to have to go to school.
[00:11:34]  Even if the CDC does make this recommendation, this is not a mandate.
[00:11:39]  It would be much like with all the COVID stuff, the CDC doesn't have power to mandate.
[00:11:43]  They just make recommendations and then it would be up to the states to enforce it.
[00:11:49]  This is Horrifying, but also very interesting on a lot of different levels.
[00:11:56]  So, I don't know.
[00:11:57]  What are your thoughts on this situation?
[00:12:01]  So, I think just to add to what you were saying, from what I understand, once things are added to that, the companies remain immune from lawsuits.
[00:12:12]  So, if you get rid of the emergency authorization, but I guess the CDC implements that this is recommended for kids in order to go to school, then the vaccine companies would remain immune to lawsuits.
[00:12:26]  Correct.
[00:12:26]  So, and just a little bit more background information on that.
[00:12:30]  Basically, as most people know, I think that the pharmaceutical companies have maintained immunity from lawsuits throughout this entire ordeal because it was under the emergency statute.
[00:12:48]  But they believe in their product.
[00:12:50]  Don't be fooled.
[00:12:50]  This is the most important and safe thing you could take.
[00:12:53]  Just they don't want any liability over it.
[00:12:55]  Well, don't be, don't look at that variable.
[00:12:57]  Yes.
[00:12:57]  So, they've been completely protected from liability.
[00:13:01]  And the legality of it is because it's under an emergency authorization.
[00:13:07]  And the emergency, the state of emergency was just extended.
[00:13:10]  It was set to expire in early 2023.
[00:13:13]  It was extended by a few months, which nobody can justify at this point.
[00:13:19]  Nobody's even trying to.
[00:13:20]  Like the idea that there's any type of like strain on our healthcare system caused by COVID-19.
[00:13:25]  But if the emergency is over, the kids are still going to need this now more than ever, that the CDC is going to recommend it.
[00:13:32]  Right.
[00:13:32]  So this is an interesting angle in all of this.
[00:13:35]  This seems to be a new path for these pharmaceutical companies to maintain their, you know, maintain being shielded from liability.
[00:13:47]  So that's certainly an angle in all of this.
[00:13:52]  You know, I read Alex Berenson, who I read all of his substacks, a very interesting guy throughout all this COVID stuff.
[00:14:00]  You know, he was saying, and he like disclaimed that he was like, I'm speculating on this, you know, here.
[00:14:06]  But he said it's quite possible that these companies will are just not going to be willing to sell the vaccine if they're not shielded from liability.
[00:14:14]  And they're just like, yeah, it won't make sense financially to sell this if we're not shielded from liability.
[00:14:20]  And now, interestingly enough, they might have a lot of leverage over, say, the Biden administration, because how what a political nightmare it would be if these vaccines got pulled.
[00:14:35]  Like if all of a sudden the vaccines were pulled, they're like, oh, we're not selling those anymore.
[00:14:39]  And it was because, oh, you're not shielded from liability anymore, then we won't sell them.
[00:14:42]  Like, I mean, just think about that after these years of pushing these vaccines.
[00:14:46]  And, you know, this is something that a lot of people, you know, a lot of people got these vaccines and a lot of them got it because they were coerced either through soft force or hard force.
[00:14:59]  You know what I mean?
[00:15:00]  Like either like literally were mandated to or were just, you know, threatened.
[00:15:08]  I understand what you just put forward 100%.
[00:15:11]  And I also read Alex Barons and I must have missed that one.
[00:15:13]  To me, though, you could actually put the leverage back on the pharmaceutical companies because they wouldn't necessarily have to pull the product.
[00:15:20]  They'd have to reprice the product.
[00:15:22]  So if you know, they can forecast, they have the studies, they know exactly to what extent they might have to do payouts.
[00:15:29]  And as opposed to selling the shots for $130, they might be $10,000 a shot.
[00:15:34]  And it could be that there's no demand for the shot at $10,000.
[00:15:37]  And so essentially just becomes null and void and not a product that they really sell.
[00:15:41]  But then it becomes, hey, the pharmaceutical companies will only sell you this product at $10,000.
[00:15:47]  But that's where the government's kind of partnered with them is the media nightmare of them pretending like there's a product that you need that they partnered with the pharmaceutical company to make and now is going to be a hundred times the current cost for.
[00:15:59]  Yeah, I think there's a certain price point where basically it just makes sense to pull it rather than to even raise the price.
[00:16:05]  You know, if the only way you could make money off selling a laptop was to make it cost $10 million, you end up just not selling it because you know no market for it at that price.
[00:16:15]  So that's now again, I don't know that this is exactly true or this is exactly how it would go, but it is interesting that at least politically speaking, there would be a lot of leverage to like, they kind of, they don't really have like an exit strategy here.
[00:16:29]  Like, well, what do you do?
[00:16:30]  You can admit you were wrong about the vaccines.
[00:16:33]  You know what I mean?
[00:16:34]  Like you went all in on them.
[00:16:36]  And so this is the other path, which is to force them on children, which I got to tell you, as a parent of two young children, I've just, I'm like blown away.
[00:16:50]  Even after everything we've been through over the last few years, I was blown away by it.
[00:16:54]  Like, my God, how much like down to your local, you know, like your local doctor is this entire like medical establishment, just how poison the whole thing is that people wouldn't just be like, there wouldn't be, and there are, don't get me wrong, there are doctors who are heroically have been speaking out about this stuff the entire time.
[00:17:15]  But my God, like the number, the fact that the numbers are so small.
[00:17:19]  You know, I remember during the rise of like wokeism, there were some of these professors who became very famous for speaking out against the insanity sweeping across universities.
[00:17:32]  You know, Jordan Peterson was up at the University of Toronto.
[00:17:36]  Weinstein was another guy who like became really huge off of this.
[00:17:40]  And, you know, it was, I think his thing was where they had like a day, like a segregated day at the university, like to make up for white privilege or something like this.
[00:17:50]  Like white people weren't allowed to come to college one day.
[00:17:54]  And he was like, what?
[00:17:55]  No, this is insane.
[00:17:57]  And you'd be like, I remember talking about this on the show where you'd, at the same time, you'd be like, oh, wow.
[00:18:03]  Okay.
[00:18:04]  That's really cool that there are like these professors who are kind of like, no, we're sorry, we're not going to do this.
[00:18:08]  But then you're like, my God, there's only a handful of them.
[00:18:12]  Isn't that insane?
[00:18:14]  I mean, you'd think you'd have like, you'd have these, you know, institutions of higher learning all across this country.
[00:18:22]  I mean, every single city, every single state has dozens of them.
[00:18:27]  And they're all just devoted to like, you know, thought and reason and argumentation and, you know, education and all of these things.
[00:18:36]  And you would think there would just be people left and right.
[00:18:38]  Like you couldn't even count the number of professors.
[00:18:41]  You would think if they were bringing back racial segregation to universities, it wouldn't even be like a special thing when a professor stood up and was against it because there'd just be so many of them at every university.
[00:18:52]  There's mobs of professors standing up against this, but there's not.
[00:18:56]  And likewise, you know, I just think that like, how is like to every goddamn town in America has how many pediatricians office from the smallest towns in the country, they probably have like at least one or two to the bigger towns and cities where there's just dozens, if not hundreds of them.
[00:19:16]  How are there not just pediatricians all over this country being like, wait, what?
[00:19:20]  You're mandating a vaccine that is, there's literally zero scientific evidence that this is that this is important for kids to take, that there's a tangible benefit for kids to take.
[00:19:36]  You're preventing them against something that poses statistically zero threat to them.
[00:19:40]  And there's all types of evidence emerging that this actually could be dangerous for them.
[00:19:46]  And yet they're going along with this.
[00:19:49]  Like there's just not like, and again, I don't mean to pretend that there aren't any doctors speaking up against it, but the fact that the numbers are so small, you're just like, my God, how poisoned have all of you gotten?
[00:19:59]  I'm sorry.
[00:20:00]  Like COVID is just not a risk for little kids.
[00:20:04]  I don't know.
[00:20:05]  We've known that since what, March of 2020?
[00:20:09]  We've been sharing the data on this show.
[00:20:11]  It's just not a risk.
[00:20:12]  It's not like statistically, it doesn't exist.
[00:20:16]  And, you know, there was just one study in Germany that just came out.
[00:20:25]  I think they had, it was with kids with getting the COVID vaccine.
[00:20:28]  I think this was also something Alex Berenson wrote about here.
[00:20:31]  Let me pull this up so I just get the numbers exactly right.
[00:20:35]  But there was something in the ballpark of.
[00:20:38]  One in 700, I think.
[00:20:39]  Yeah, well, there was right.
[00:20:40]  It was one in 780 or something like that.
[00:20:44]  But the study, I think, had like 7,800 kids in it or something like that here.
[00:20:51]  Hold on, I'll pull up the numbers right now.
[00:20:53]  Okay.
[00:20:53]  So yeah, so the study had 7,800 children under five who received the mRNA shot.
[00:21:05]  10 of these kids required hospitalization afterward.
[00:21:10]  So that's one out of 780.
[00:21:14]  One out of 780.
[00:21:15]  I mean, like, Jesus Christ.
[00:21:17]  Now, I don't know.
[00:21:18]  I don't know, like to some, if you don't have kids, maybe you just look at that and go, one out of 780 is not that much.
[00:21:24]  But like, like for something to, to be preventing something that is absolutely no risk to them, even taking a risk like that with your kid being hospitalized, kids under five don't tend to be hospitalized very often.
[00:21:36]  This is like insane.
[00:21:38]  So we have studies coming out.
[00:21:39]  Now, again, I don't know.
[00:21:40]  I'm not saying like you take this one study, you know, take it with a grain of salt.
[00:21:44]  It's one study.
[00:21:45]  But the idea that if there is any evidence at all, like emerging that suggests this might be dangerous for kids, and then there's there's no clear studies demonstrating that it really helps out with this thing that's not even a threat to them.
[00:22:02]  Look, one out of 780 chance of being hospitalized is way riskier than COVID is for kids.

=== Cut Back With Upside (02:28) ===

[00:22:12]  That's the truth.
[00:22:14]  And so this, that part is pretty damn insane.
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[00:24:06]  The other thing that I find kind of interesting about all of this stuff, right, is that there's so if it is, and again, there's some degree of speculation going on here.
[00:24:21]  If this is a play to get continued protection from liability, or even if it's not, let's just say, you know, it's pulling up some of the numbers here.

=== Vaccination Status Rejected (10:02) ===

[00:24:41]  The push to vaccinate children has been completely rejected, completely rejected by the American people.
[00:24:50]  I mean, right now, around 2% of children under five, about one in three from five to 11, have gotten the vax.
[00:25:02]  And that's all because of force.
[00:25:04]  I can't say all, but like my friends.
[00:25:07]  But including force in that equation to get them up to those numbers, right?
[00:25:11]  And by force, it's your kid can't come to the school unless he's been boosted type shit.
[00:25:16]  Right.
[00:25:16]  So 2% of children under five.
[00:25:19]  Now, it does really make you wonder about those 2% of parents who like, my God.
[00:25:26]  But that really says something, right?
[00:25:29]  It's been a while now that they've been kind of like recommending that kids get this and people just aren't.
[00:25:36]  It's not like with the initial push with adults, which also just makes a lot of sense in a lot of ways because there just wasn't, there wasn't nearly as much data on the vaccine when it first came out.
[00:25:50]  The data that there was, it was very easy to present it in a, in a positive light.
[00:25:56]  Also.
[00:25:57]  All the smiling celebrities.
[00:25:59]  Well, yes.
[00:25:59]  And also every authority was saying, you know, like we know for a fact that this stops the virus.
[00:26:04]  And there was also still so many of the draconian measures in place.
[00:26:09]  And they were like, this is our path out of it.
[00:26:11]  And all the experts were telling you, it stops with you.
[00:26:14]  And you can't spread it.
[00:26:15]  It's like Glasio eating a delicious hamburger, letting you know that you can only have those benefits if you got a vaccination.
[00:26:21]  That's how you participate in society.
[00:26:24]  Yeah.
[00:26:24]  Well, right.
[00:26:24]  So there's a lot of that stuff.
[00:26:25]  And also, I should say, it's not just the manipulation of the data, although there was some of that.
[00:26:30]  I know you talked about a lot how they would, you know, say that number of 99% of the people dying are unvaccinated.
[00:26:37]  But if you actually look at how they got that statistic, they were counting from several months before the vaccine was available.
[00:26:43]  The biggest manipulation of the data was you were only like when they were counting deaths, if they couldn't verify your vaccination status, you were considered unvaccinated.
[00:26:52]  And they don't even have a centralized database.
[00:26:55]  So as simply as if you got sick in a state other than your home state and died, you were considered unvaccinated.
[00:27:01]  And then I don't even know what they were doing with up-to-date boosters.
[00:27:04]  So they did everything they could to represent that the shots were working, which if you also take a step back, our government agencies are not supposed to be the marketing company for Pfizer, right?
[00:27:16]  You know what I mean?
[00:27:17]  We should have independent numbers and it all should just be available.
[00:27:20]  So any manipulation whatsoever is.
[00:27:22]  Or at least just be honest that we can't track this.
[00:27:25]  We don't know exactly.
[00:27:27]  There's these crazy claims.
[00:27:28]  This was one of the things through COVID that I love.
[00:27:30]  And it's, but don't get me wrong, I can be guilty of this too, because I'm a dummy, just like so many other people.
[00:27:37]  Like I'm a fucking, you know, I'm borderline retarded.
[00:27:40]  And so it's, you'll see things sometimes people will claim to have these numbers.
[00:27:46]  And it's, it's easy almost to like just like be like, oh, okay, this experts looked at the data and these are the numbers, you know?
[00:27:53]  But every now and then, if you just stop yourself from just being in idiot mode and just taking in what people say and just think critically about these things and you'd be like, wait a minute, how do you know that?
[00:28:04]  Like, how do you know that?
[00:28:05]  I remember one of the things that always sticks out to me about our show over the last three years almost now was if you remember when that woman who's the head of the CDC said she went off about how the majority of kids who get COVID or who wind up in the hospital from COVID got it from an unvaccinated person in their life.
[00:28:30]  And you just kind of hear that and me and you were just like, wait, wait, what?
[00:28:33]  Hold on, wait a minute.
[00:28:35]  How, like, if you just think this through, you're like, how could you possibly know this?
[00:28:38]  There's no way you're keeping accurate.
[00:28:40]  So you're telling me someone gets hospitalized and then what?
[00:28:44]  You ask them, who'd you get COVID from?
[00:28:48]  And they're telling you who, and then you're checking the vaccination status of that person.
[00:28:54]  How would you possibly verify that information?
[00:28:58]  This is a lot of times when people get COVID, they're not even sure who they got it from exactly or what the chain was of where it went.
[00:29:04]  And then, so you're not, you're telling me you're not only checking the vaccine status of the person who's in the hospital, but you're also what, figuring out all of their extended family and what their status is.
[00:29:17]  Like, how are you even going about this?
[00:29:19]  First off, there's no way I believe that question is even being asked to the person in the hospital.
[00:29:24]  Anyone who's been hospitalized with COVID, let me know if that question was ever even asked of you, who you got it from and what is their vaccination status.
[00:29:31]  And second off, even if you answered it, how is that verified?
[00:29:35]  That's just you saying it.
[00:29:37]  Nah, they weren't.
[00:29:38]  They weren't vaccinated.
[00:29:39]  Like, okay.
[00:29:40]  How do we know that that's true?
[00:29:41]  Sometimes I remember this was the one.
[00:29:44]  I don't know if you remember this, but back when there was the big, like, you'll still see every now and then people bring up this number because it's just one of those, you know, like when they say one in four women on college campuses are raped or sexually assaulted.
[00:29:58]  But then like when you actually peel into the data, what the way they get to those numbers is defining sexual assault as like, hey, what's up, girl?
[00:30:06]  Yeah.
[00:30:07]  Well, well, they'll define for, you'll be like, one in four women on college campuses are raped or sexually assaulted.
[00:30:12]  And you'll be like, that seems a bit high.
[00:30:15]  Like, I highly doubt women would be voluntarily going to a place where there's a one in four shot that they get raped.
[00:30:21]  You know, just your logical part of your brain goes, that's probably like, so you're telling me there's Congo-like numbers of rape in college campuses, but yet women are still paying to go there.
[00:30:32]  Not even just going voluntarily, but paying to go.
[00:30:35]  Probably not true.
[00:30:36]  But then you realize that it's like, and then of course it, when it just gets repeated popularly, they go one in four are raped.
[00:30:42]  But you're like, oh, they go, they're raped or sexually assaulted.
[00:30:44]  But then if you actually read the study, like they define sexual assault as like someone leaning in for an unwanted kiss.
[00:30:52]  So the end of a date.
[00:30:54]  Yeah.
[00:30:55]  Like, so in other words, like one in four women at college campus have a guy like leaning for a kiss.
[00:31:00]  And they're like, no, I don't think so.
[00:31:01]  You know what I mean?
[00:31:02]  Like, and you're like, oh, no, that makes sense.
[00:31:04]  So that I could totally believe happens.
[00:31:07]  But that's very different than the, you know, anyway, but so one of the stats that just reminds me of this CDC lady giving that stat.
[00:31:13]  One of the stats that was popularized was that they said only 2% of rape accusations are false accusations.
[00:31:24]  And they would just put that out there.
[00:31:26]  Like, we did a study.
[00:31:28]  It's only 2% of rape accusations are false.
[00:31:33]  So only, but after all you have to do is think that through and go, wait, what?
[00:31:38]  You don't know that?
[00:31:40]  Like, what are you talking about?
[00:31:42]  How would you possibly know the percentage of accusations that are true or not true?
[00:31:48]  I mean, are you telling me that 98% of rape accusations lead to an investigation, charges being brought, a trial and a conviction?
[00:31:59]  Of course not.
[00:32:00]  So you have no way of knowing.
[00:32:02]  I mean, anything short of that, you don't know for a fact that the person was guilty.
[00:32:07]  By the way, even with that, you don't know for a fact the person was guilty.
[00:32:10]  But for the sake of argument, I'll grant you if you get a conviction in a court of law, fine.
[00:32:15]  We'll count that as guilty.
[00:32:17]  But anything short of that, the presumption is innocence, right?
[00:32:21]  That's actually an interesting, interesting stat that if cops want to keep the record, you could have how many times does someone come in with a rape accusation?
[00:32:29]  And then how many of those actually result in a conviction?
[00:32:32]  And that's your number.
[00:32:34]  But even that, that would be inaccurate.
[00:32:36]  Because there's other ways.
[00:32:37]  There's false convictions.
[00:32:38]  Well, I'm saying that.
[00:32:39]  Well, no, but not just that, but the fact that like, look, there's in the other sense, a lot of those men could have been rapists.
[00:32:45]  You're just like, I don't know.
[00:32:46]  We didn't have enough evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that they were.
[00:32:50]  But just because you can't prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone did something doesn't mean they didn't do it.
[00:32:54]  So I'm just saying none of the, there's the answer is there's no way to know.
[00:32:58]  There's absolutely no way to know.
[00:33:00]  You can know the people who had enough proof that they were convicted in a court of law.
[00:33:05]  And then you can know the where there was enough proof that it was a lie that the woman had to later admit it or that the police determined by, you know, there's like these cases like in the Duke La Crosse rape scandal years ago, where they use like the cell phone data to track that she wasn't even at the party at the time that she claimed she was like miles away.
[00:33:26]  Okay, well, you proved that one was.
[00:33:28]  She suffered some other dicks the whole time.
[00:33:30]  Quite possibly.
[00:33:31]  But, you know, like, so there's, but the vast majority of cases are neither of those.
[00:33:36]  They're just in an area of like someone made an accusation, the other person said they didn't do it.
[00:33:40]  Now we don't have enough evidence to move forward.
[00:33:42]  Now, I'm not saying that should be counted as they didn't do it, but it certainly shouldn't be counted as they did.
[00:33:48]  It's just the point is just like sometimes people read these statistics off.
[00:33:51]  And if you just think about it logically, you're like, oh, no, this is, this does not make sense.
[00:33:55]  I would think the amount of times that a prosecutor throws it out or a lady retracts her story has to be higher than 2%.
[00:34:02]  Yeah, no question.
[00:34:04]  No question about it.
[00:34:05]  No, I think what the study basically came down to was that they said like 2% of the time, the it is proven that the accusation was false.
[00:34:16]  And then basically they go, they go, and we'll just count all the other ones as they did it.
[00:34:21]  It's just like complete bullshit.
[00:34:22]  But then they still just repeat the statistic and it just gets repeated and repeated.
[00:34:26]  And if you say it enough, it's like women earn 77 cents on the dollar.
[00:34:29]  And then everyone just says it enough times.
[00:34:31]  And then eventually people believe it.
[00:34:32]  You know, the problem with that stat is it encourages rape because it tells people, look, you're probably going to get away with it.
[00:34:40]  It could have.
[00:34:41]  There's a real moral hazard.

=== War And Free Speech (15:26) ===

[00:34:43]  Yeah.
[00:34:44]  They're letting kids know, hey, I don't know if you're due to college, but just know, like 25% of these other people are raping people.
[00:34:51]  And very few of them are getting in trouble for it.
[00:34:53]  Yeah.
[00:34:53]  Look, I'm just going to tell you how many people in your college campus are going to jail.
[00:34:57]  Is it one in four?
[00:34:58]  Probably not.
[00:34:59]  Probably not.
[00:35:00]  Right.
[00:35:00]  So it looks like, if you ask me, it looks like a whole lot of people getting away with shit.
[00:35:03]  Unless there's one guy who's really putting up high rape numbers.
[00:35:07]  Yeah.
[00:35:07]  He'd have to really be putting up some numbers.
[00:35:11]  All right.
[00:35:12]  So anyway, I got off onto a tangent I wasn't expecting to be on.
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[00:36:19]  All right.
[00:36:20]  What were some other topics here that you want to talk about?
[00:36:22]  Let's talk about Elon Musk a little bit.
[00:36:24]  Pretty interesting what's going on with Elon Musk.
[00:36:27]  So there's been a couple things that have been big that have been happening with old Elon.
[00:36:35]  And number one is it looks like the Twitter deal is going through and that he actually is somehow going to pull off buying Twitter.
[00:36:43]  At least that's what it kind of looked like for a while.
[00:36:46]  Of course, he said he was going to buy Twitter.
[00:36:48]  This was quite a saga with a lot of different steps involved.
[00:36:51]  But, you know, he said he was going to.
[00:36:53]  They were like, oh, there's no way you can do this.
[00:36:55]  You're not going to have $44 billion liquid.
[00:36:58]  He got $44 billion liquid.
[00:37:00]  And they were like, oh shit.
[00:37:01]  Then he's moving forward with the deal.
[00:37:03]  At first, the board at Twitter was like, didn't wasn't going to sell to him, but then ultimately they were like, they just couldn't say no to how high of a stock price he offered them.
[00:37:14]  Then he was saying he was going to pull out of it.
[00:37:16]  They were pressuring him because then he'd owe them money.
[00:37:19]  Then he was like, nope, fuck it.
[00:37:21]  I'll do it.
[00:37:22]  And it looked like the deal was going through.
[00:37:24]  The other thing that's been interesting that's going on with him is his company, Starlink, has been providing free internet access in Ukraine.
[00:37:37]  And he came out and was really pushing negotiations between Ukraine and Russia, something that no one in the United States of America, in the United States of America's government, is doing.
[00:37:51]  And yet Elon Musk here was out here.
[00:37:53]  And of course, he was just getting bashed relentlessly for this.
[00:37:55]  He's a now he's a Putin, you know, puppet or something like that.
[00:38:00]  There's ridiculous things.
[00:38:02]  No, he went from just being like a guy who is like a billionaire, all of a sudden we found out he was a racist.
[00:38:07]  And now it turns out this whole time, he's been working for Vladimir Putin because that's anyone who doesn't want to risk nuclear war over the Donbass region of Ukraine, evidently is just working for Vladimir Putin.
[00:38:20]  But now it is being reported that the Biden administration are discussing whether the United States should subject some of Elon Musk's ventures to national security reviews, including his deal for Twitter and the Starlink satellite network.
[00:38:38]  This is being reported earlier by Jennifer Jacobs.
[00:38:41]  Glenn Greenwald tweeted, which I thought was a good response.
[00:38:48]  He said, in a gigantic coincidence, the totally non-politicized Biden Department of Justice announced just after Elon Musk advocated a peace deal to end the war in Ukraine and is on the verge of ending CIA-directed censorship on Twitter that it is investigating his deals on national security grounds.
[00:39:08]  It's really there's something very interesting about this whole ordeal on both with Starlink and Twitter, where it is kind of, you know, we make these arguments quite often about how the market is preferable to the state.
[00:39:28]  And it's, and there's lots of examples of where this is just obviously true.
[00:39:34]  And here's an example of just seeing, you know, it's like for how many people talk about, you know, whatever problems, theoretical problems with like an anarcho-capitalist society or just a minarchist libertarian society or something like that.
[00:39:49]  And they'll go, well, how would this work?
[00:39:51]  How would this work?
[00:39:52]  How would you solve all of these big problems?
[00:39:54]  You know, and one of them that people have brought up a lot was tech censorship.
[00:39:58]  Another one that people have brought up a lot is like, well, what about foreign governments starting wars and all of these things?
[00:40:03]  And here's an example of where you just see like this powerful, wealthy person, you know, really showing you in a way like how these things kind of could be solved.
[00:40:13]  You know, just like one example of how they could be solved.
[00:40:16]  It's like, well, here's one.
[00:40:17]  There's a billionaire who really believes in free speech and he goes and buys this platform and guarantees it's going to be a free speech platform.
[00:40:22]  Now, I'm not saying that's perfect.
[00:40:23]  Who knows if he really believes this shit or not?
[00:40:25]  Who knows if he would actually run Twitter that way or not?
[00:40:28]  But another thing I'm sure a lot of people didn't think about, but hey, say someone's providing free internet for a large portion of a country.
[00:40:39]  Oh, they got a lot of leverage over that country now.
[00:40:42]  And maybe there's like a threat of nuclear war or something like that.
[00:40:44]  They're like, hey, listen, I insist you negotiate with these guys and come to a settlement here.
[00:40:49]  I want to see a ceasefire and I want to see negotiations worked out.
[00:40:52]  And now it's like, well, that is the guy who provides us free internet.
[00:40:55]  We really do need that.
[00:40:57]  And so, you know what I'm saying?
[00:40:58]  There's just like interesting.
[00:41:00]  And then, of course, in this moment here, you see that it looks like while you're on the verge of these like potentially really beautiful solutions, that the government will just come in and knock over the chessboard.
[00:41:14]  You're like, no, we're not playing.
[00:41:16]  I think I said this on day one.
[00:41:17]  And if I didn't, let's just pretend that I did.
[00:41:21]  No, I'm pretty sure we said on day one that, you know, Elon Musk thinks he's buying Twitter and that he's going to make it a free speech platform.
[00:41:28]  But what happens when he gets these calls?
[00:41:30]  And it seemed to me that Elon Musk has always been in the system and that most of his profits, as far as I understand, kind of came off the credits from the electric vehicles.
[00:41:38]  Somehow he's got the favorable government contract that it's his Tesla charging stations that I see at every single government roadstop.
[00:41:47]  And like he seems to have the favorable deal also that he gets to launch satellites into space.
[00:41:52]  I don't know how satellite and space real estate works.
[00:41:55]  Seems like there'd have to be some type of deal made with the government for all of this stuff.
[00:41:58]  Yes.
[00:41:59]  It seems like he's in quasi-government industries in a favorable position.
[00:42:04]  I don't see a guy like that stepping in and then going against their interest when it comes to tech censorship.
[00:42:10]  Well, I think that there are some people like I think Elon Musk and probably Peter Teo is probably like this too, where these guys, I think, at least it seems to me, and I don't know, you know, you never know what's in someone's heart, but it seems to me like these are people who are truly in opposition to the regime, that they don't like the way the regime is run.
[00:42:38]  They're also quite comfortable using the regime's rules to get filthy, stinking rich.
[00:42:45]  I can get no problem.
[00:42:47]  I can respect that.
[00:42:48]  Yeah, no, I mean, look, what am I going to say about that?
[00:42:51]  But they're not like, you know, sometimes like I'll see libertarians be like, well, they're crony capitalists because they used this or this or that.
[00:42:59]  And you're like, look, I get your point, but these people are not operating under your, you know, like worldview of what is moral and is immoral.
[00:43:08]  I guess what I'm saying, though, is that if you're, if you go the crony capitalist route, you might not have an easy out because it's not like you've created a product that the market just values at the price that you've done it.
[00:43:19]  And so you're set.
[00:43:20]  You're relying on the government handout in order for you to have your profits.
[00:43:23]  So there's kind of, look, there's a mix of both, right?
[00:43:26]  Because it's not as if there aren't some market forces involved in Elon Musk selling Tesla as well.
[00:43:31]  Like he's also made a car that people are willing to buy.
[00:43:34]  So there's some of both.
[00:43:35]  I would just argue.
[00:43:36]  Like, I'm not even really disagreeing with you.
[00:43:38]  I'm just saying that it's possible that somebody who is opposed to the regime, but also is really killing it at working within their parameters might be someone who is opposed to the regime and also understands how it operates and knows how to navigate that system.
[00:43:56]  The truth is that I think, and this is not true for all of them, but there are a lot of these kind of like crony capitalists who are incredibly talented people and who have figured out how to master the game in the crony game with the rules that are laid out that probably would also figure out how to master the game in a free market.
[00:44:14]  Now, I'm not saying that's, that doesn't apply to everybody.
[00:44:16]  I mean, there are some people certainly who are like, you know, like weapons manufacturers probably would not be able to master the game in a free market, but can in a crony market.
[00:44:27]  But a lot of these people are where they're at because they are incredibly talented.
[00:44:33]  And that part of that might also be that they've taken advantage of, you know, like, you know, government handouts, but it's, it, it's often a mix of all of these things.
[00:44:41]  I saw today, maybe I just saw this number wrong because I wasn't paying attention.
[00:44:45]  I'm just thinking about it now, but I think I saw the number that it was 200 million daily active users on Twitter.
[00:44:51]  And if that is an accurate number, that is shockingly low.
[00:44:55]  Because think about it.
[00:44:56]  200 across the whole world.
[00:44:58]  I mean, that's shockingly low.
[00:44:59]  That's 10 times Rogan.
[00:45:01]  You're telling me you got a $44 billion evaluation for an audience that's only 10 times Rogan's daily audience, and Rogan's daily audience has to be more engaged.
[00:45:10]  I'm just saying, like, I work in the podcast space.
[00:45:13]  If we total the impressions across gas and some other comedy podcasts, I'm sure.
[00:45:17]  Yeah, we're not that far off.
[00:45:19]  So you're looking at two between 2% and 10%.
[00:45:22]  Like, it's just not 200 million does not strike me like a rab, like a very impressive daily user base.
[00:45:29]  No, I agree with you on that.
[00:45:30]  No, look, I might have that number wrong.
[00:45:32]  I didn't like even take a mental note while I was reading.
[00:45:34]  Okay, yeah, we have to check that.
[00:45:36]  Either way, it does seem like part of the whole deal has been that there's, it seems like one of the things Elon Musk has exposed already is that there's a tremendous amount of bots on Twitter.
[00:45:50]  And he's going to fire 75% of the staff.
[00:45:52]  Oh, that's the, that's true, right?
[00:45:54]  Yeah, that's a good point.
[00:45:55]  That's what he said.
[00:45:56]  It sounds from the Washington Post, like there was going to be some pretty major overhauls and they're going to kind of play him off as being the bad guy.
[00:46:04]  I'd be curious to see because people love evil billionaires.
[00:46:07]  Do all these lefty check marks leave Twitter on account of the fact that the evil billionaire just got rid of 75?
[00:46:13]  And then also, how much blood exists in that company that you can cut 75% of your workforce and then still operate effectively?
[00:46:20]  Well, it's interesting, right?
[00:46:21]  Because there's so much of, you know, I don't know.
[00:46:24]  I'm really not an expert enough at like on the technical side of these companies.
[00:46:29]  Now, the number of employees at Twitter is not that high.
[00:46:32]  I think it's only a few people.
[00:46:33]  Yeah, something like that.
[00:46:34]  Right.
[00:46:35]  But it seems to me that like a lot of the things with these like social media companies are like, oh, okay, like we've created this company, this infrastructure, so everyone can talk to each other, you know?
[00:46:47]  And then so much of what actually running the company is, is like creating these algorithms, you know, the shadow banning, the tuning down this story, tuning up this story, like so much of it.
[00:46:58]  It's like none of that really needs to be done.
[00:47:01]  Right.
[00:47:02]  Almost, almost everyone on there would like just be happier if they just saw all of the people they were following and not just the ones who you're trying to show them or not trying to show them.
[00:47:12]  Like just make like it seems to me like it would create, it would be much less work to just be like, yeah, this is our system and everyone can talk to each other.
[00:47:21]  Go ahead.
[00:47:22]  And it's possible that that's, that's what he would be trying to do.
[00:47:24]  I don't know.
[00:47:25]  It will be very interesting to see.
[00:47:27]  You know, you do you start to push up against these realities where, you know, the government always has this ace in the hole of just throwing over the chessboard and going, No, that's it.
[00:47:44]  We're not playing anymore.
[00:47:46]  And they can, you know, they could nationalize Twitter.
[00:47:50]  I mean, there's precedent for it.
[00:47:52]  There's, I saw, I think it was David Fromm or someone like that arguing, like, hey, FDR nationalized all these industries.
[00:47:58]  There's precedent.
[00:48:00]  There you go.
[00:48:01]  Make up some excuse about national security or the, you know, the common good.
[00:48:05]  The safety of the information on the internet.
[00:48:08]  Yeah, something, you know.
[00:48:09]  And it's like, look, could the Biden administration sit back and allow Elon Musk to turn Twitter into a free speech platform and negotiate an end to the war in Ukraine?
[00:48:24]  Can they just let him do that?
[00:48:26]  I don't know.
[00:48:27]  I mean, take off our good guy hat for a minute and put on the bad guy hat from their perspective.
[00:48:33]  I think if we were working for the bad guys, I think our perspective would be like, you absolutely cannot let this happen.
[00:48:39]  Yeah, this will completely undermine you.
[00:48:42]  Biden has a whole country of people.
[00:48:43]  He needs to freeze to death this winter.
[00:48:44]  He can't let them out of that war.
[00:48:46]  Yeah, that's right.
[00:48:47]  That's right.
[00:48:47]  We're trying to freeze some Germans to death.
[00:48:49]  We can't fucking end this war.
[00:48:52]  But it seems, I mean, look, they've gone all in on like, we have to prolong this war and prop up Ukraine as long as possible and draw Russia into as long a fight as possible.
[00:49:01]  They can't just let Elon Musk come in and also just completely undercut them.
[00:49:05]  Like you guys weren't negotiating this whole time.
[00:49:07]  And then this guy was able to just come in and negotiate a peace and let everyone see that peace is so clearly preferable to war and all this stuff.
[00:49:14]  And then the idea of just like, you know, we're, I mean, we're, we're going into a midterm election very soon here, but we got a presidential election coming up in, I mean, what in a year will be in the height of it, you know?
[00:49:29]  Can they just allow Twitter to be a place where anyone can talk and Trump can come back on there or DeSantis can say what he wants to say unfettered?
[00:49:38]  I don't know if they could allow that to happen.
[00:49:40]  Now, does nationalizing Twitter or just having the Department of Justice crack down on Elon Musk right now?
[00:49:47]  That seems like a bold step that wouldn't look good for them.
[00:49:50]  But faced with what they're up against, I don't know.
[00:49:56]  It's possible.
[00:49:57]  You know, there's a great scene in what the fuck was that show that, oh, you actually had him on the list here today, which I don't even know what the topic was about.

=== Kevin Spacey Scene (03:36) ===

[00:50:09]  But Kevin Spacey's show, what was it called?
[00:50:13]  House of Cards.
[00:50:14]  Yeah.
[00:50:14]  So there was a great scene.
[00:50:15]  And I can't remember because it was from like years ago now.
[00:50:18]  I think I only watched like the first two or three seasons of that show.
[00:50:22]  But there's a scene where like one of the characters was like a big oil billionaire and he was fucking over the president.
[00:50:30]  And Kevin Spacey was the vice president at the time, I think.
[00:50:33]  And they're like, you know, he's this billionaire and he was really against them.
[00:50:36]  He's threatening them in all these ways.
[00:50:38]  And then finally, when they just can't beat him, they just go, we're going to nationalize your company.
[00:50:44]  That was just their last move.
[00:50:46]  They were going to, and they, uh, he was in that place where he would eat his ribs or whatever.
[00:50:50]  And the guy came in and they had this confrontation.
[00:50:52]  And he's like, you can't do this to me.
[00:50:54]  Like, I'm worth $40 billion.
[00:50:56]  And Kevin Spacey says something like, he goes, like, he goes, I don't care how much money you have.
[00:51:00]  I have all the men with guns.
[00:51:03]  And it's just like this great line where it's like, yeah, I mean, it's like, that is kind of the ace in the hole that the government has at the end of the day with all this stuff.
[00:51:10]  It's like, okay, you know, you got a lot of money, Elon Musk, but they've got the Department of Justice.
[00:51:16]  And that's worth more.
[00:51:18]  So it'll just be interesting to see where this all goes.
[00:51:21]  Again, can Elon Musk is playing a dangerous game?
[00:51:24]  And I'll admit, I don't exactly know why he's playing it.
[00:51:29]  Maybe it's because he's a true believer in something.
[00:51:32]  Maybe not.
[00:51:33]  Maybe he's got some other angle.
[00:51:34]  There's some type of business angle here.
[00:51:37]  Maybe he's a bad guy.
[00:51:39]  I really don't know.
[00:51:40]  But it does seem like he is bringing the entire focus and weight of the most powerful government in the history of the world to put a bullseye right on his back.
[00:51:50]  And that'll be interesting to see how he deals with it.
[00:51:54]  Yeah.
[00:51:54]  And it's also interesting because it's not his core business model.
[00:51:57]  Like I don't think the upside in terms of like, you know, he's got a responsibility to his shareholders and he's got projects and interesting engineering ideas to develop, including trying to get to Mart.
[00:52:09]  Like he's got some cool initiatives that better the human race.
[00:52:13]  So you got to wonder how much he might be willing to sacrifice the other initiatives over this one.
[00:52:20]  Yeah.
[00:52:20]  Yeah.
[00:52:21]  It is an interesting.
[00:52:22]  It's all interesting questions.
[00:52:23]  So by the way, before we get out of here, what were you telling me?
[00:52:25]  What was the other news with Kevin Spacey?
[00:52:27]  Why did you mention him?
[00:52:28]  It's a big storyline because it was the height of Me Too.
[00:52:31]  And he just finally got, you know, acquitted.
[00:52:36]  It's weird that it took that much time for, I guess, him to actually see a judge and for the case to be decided in his favor.
[00:52:43]  But he was one of the guys that seemed like he was certainly guilty on the backs of the fact that, I mean, he's now saying he made the mistake of apologizing.
[00:52:51]  And I don't know the particulars of the court case, but it would seem like he's been fully acquitted.
[00:52:56]  Interesting.
[00:52:57]  Yeah, I haven't been following this at all, but well, look at that.
[00:52:59]  So can he come back now or no?
[00:53:02]  What do you think?
[00:53:03]  I would guess yes.
[00:53:04]  I think with a full acquittal, like they've got no grounds to, you know, and he's a moneymaker.
[00:53:09]  Guy's a fucking awesome actor.
[00:53:11]  Yeah, he is a cool actor.
[00:53:12]  Can't deny that.
[00:53:13]  If anything, we should have put that gay guy in jail for the false accusation that kept us from seeing Kevin Spacey movies for four years.
[00:53:19]  How do you put a price tag on that?
[00:53:21]  You owe us four Kevin Spacey movies minimum and a season a house of cards on top.
[00:53:26]  And then I guess we'll do it tomorrow.
[00:53:27]  We got to talk about the UK thing because first time in my lifetime, I've seen a politician have to confront the reality of the economics that they couldn't just spend.
[00:53:36]  Yeah.
[00:53:37]  Yeah.
[00:53:37]  That is very interesting.
[00:53:38]  We'll definitely, we'll talk about that on the next episode.
[00:53:40]  All right.
[00:53:40]  We're going to wrap up there.
[00:53:41]  Thank you guys for listening and catch us.
[00:53:43]  We'll have a new episode at tomorrow.
[00:53:45]  So check for that.
[00:53:46]  Peace.