Part Of The Problem - Dave Smith - The New Terrorists
Aired: 2022-09-13
Duration: 47:51


=== Funding America's Next Enemy (11:42) ===

[00:00:00]  Fill her up.
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[00:00:08]  We need to roll back the state.
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[00:00:16]  If you want to know who America's next enemy is, look at who we're funding right now.
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[00:00:30]  Here's your host, James Smith.
[00:00:34]  What's up, everybody?
[00:00:34]  What's up?
[00:00:35]  Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
[00:00:38]  I'm in a very good mood because I'm being joined by my favorite person to talk politics with, Robbie the Fire, Bernstein, King of the Caulks, COVID, Jesus, and Nate Diaz coming off a big win on Saturday night.
[00:00:50]  Two big wins, really.
[00:00:51]  Beat Hamzat and then beat Tony Ferguson.
[00:00:54]  So I'm in a good mood.
[00:00:55]  How are you doing today, Rob?
[00:00:57]  I did enjoy those fights.
[00:00:58]  That was fun.
[00:00:59]  It was.
[00:00:59]  It was a lot of fun.
[00:01:00]  It was, it was, I give a lot of credit to the UFC for saving the card and making it awesome still, despite all of the craziness that they had to deal with.
[00:01:10]  All right.
[00:01:11]  So yesterday was September 11th, 2022.
[00:01:17]  So the 21-year anniversary of the attacks on 9-11, which is...
[00:01:24]  Yeah, when you get to be around our age, it's already, it's a lot of young people listen to this show.
[00:01:30]  They don't understand, but when you have like a like a very vivid, fresh memory of something where you were like, you know, like when this happened, I was, I don't know, like the same height I am now.
[00:01:44]  You know what I mean?
[00:01:44]  Like I was, and you're like, yeah, man, that's been, that's been a while.
[00:01:48]  And like, 21 years, you know, hmm, yeah, no, it makes you feel old.
[00:01:52]  I guess because as a country, we barely moved on from it.
[00:01:55]  So it's okay that we haven't really developed.
[00:01:57]  Well, it is also like, it does seem in many ways.
[00:02:00]  I mean, you can do this.
[00:02:01]  It's a little bit, you know, artificial and subjective, but it does seem to some degree like this was the beginning.
[00:02:10]  This was the beginning of a period for America, like the post-9-11 period.
[00:02:14]  And man, has it really not been good for our country?
[00:02:17]  Like it's just, it's really been a disaster.
[00:02:20]  And the, you know, the thing that's, that's interesting about it is that there's so many people talk about it on all of the, you know, all of the corporate news shows and they all talk about 9-11.
[00:02:32]  There's on Twitter, you know, on social media.
[00:02:34]  There's everybody's talking about the anniversary of 9-11.
[00:02:38]  And it does seem like even now, 21 years later, there is still very little, if any, effort to actually learn any of the obviously valuable lessons from 9-11.
[00:02:53]  Like what caused it?
[00:02:54]  What the response was?
[00:02:56]  What, you know what I mean?
[00:02:57]  Like anything deep like that.
[00:02:59]  I don't think you want to question our only solution, which is just spend all the money.
[00:03:03]  Yeah, spend all the money, drop all the bombs.
[00:03:06]  That should get it done.
[00:03:07]  I mean, you would think the fact that we just, the war that we started in 2001, in that, you know, in the following days after 9-11, the fact that it just ended after 20 years of just disaster, pouring all of this money in, killing all of these people, getting so many of our own service members killed or just, you know, fucked up for life.
[00:03:37]  And all we did was basically leave a Taliban with way more weaponry than the one 20 years ago.
[00:03:45]  You would think after that, there would at least be some, you know, serious examination of, oh, okay, what was the response to this?
[00:03:52]  But here we are.
[00:03:53]  I did so good.
[00:03:54]  We did great.
[00:03:55]  Afghanistan, we won it.
[00:03:57]  Yeah, right.
[00:03:58]  So, I mean, okay, so that war is over, but here we are 21 years later, and all of the things that were created in response to 9-11, you know, the Department of Homeland Security and the Patriot Act and the spying apparatus and, you know, the all of this stuff is still very much with us.
[00:04:19]  Now, people care a lot less than they did in, say, 2005, 2006.
[00:04:27]  about these things for a number of reasons.
[00:04:31]  One of the main reasons is that it was, well, these things were new and they were done by a Republican president.
[00:04:39]  So this created a lot of outrage from, you know, the Democrats, some sincere on the left, a lot of it also just cynical from Democrats who just wanted to use it for political purposes.
[00:04:50]  But I think even more primarily is that at that point, the war in Afghanistan and the war in Iraq, we had huge numbers of U.S. troops in those wars.
[00:05:00]  And so, you know, there was it's just, it means it's a lot more real to people when they actually, you know, might know someone who's over there fighting, or at least know someone who knows someone who's over there fighting.
[00:05:12]  Today, we have a very small footprint in Iraq.
[00:05:16]  We have a very small footprint in Syria.
[00:05:20]  We have no footprint in Libya.
[00:05:21]  We just wrecked the country and left.
[00:05:23]  We have a small footprint in Somalia.
[00:05:26]  We have no footprint again, I guess, in Afghanistan.
[00:05:29]  And basically in Yemen, it's really the Saudis who are doing the fighting for us.
[00:05:36]  We're giving them the weapons for a while.
[00:05:38]  We were refueling their jet planes and things like that.
[00:05:41]  But so it's just, it's much more removed.
[00:05:43]  Now, obviously, the, you know, like the humanitarian toll in, say, Yemen is, you know, just god-awful.
[00:05:53]  And when it's all said and done and we get the excess mortality numbers out of there, it's probably going to be as many people as died in Bush's war in Iraq.
[00:06:01]  And that's all horrible.
[00:06:03]  However, it doesn't seem, and understandably to some degree, people tend to be more concerned with their own lives than things that just they don't feel that don't affect them that are happening halfway around the world.
[00:06:16]  And we've done episodes in the past many times where we've talked about, you know, the causes, what led to 9-11 and the wars that followed and what a disaster they all were.
[00:06:28]  But I thought today we should focus a little bit more on what is kind of the biggest threat in the post-9-11 world and, you know, the biggest threat in, I think, America right now, which is to me, not worse at this point, but potentially, say, scarier than even the COVID regime or even the wars in the Middle East,
[00:06:55]  which is this very concerted effort to move the war on terrorism inward, to focus it domestically and prosecute the new terrorist threat, which is, of course, right-wingers, MAGA Republicans, people who like Donald Trump.
[00:07:15]  Oh, and by the way, when you ask them, libertarians don't feel any comfort here.
[00:07:20]  We will also be lumped in with these groups.
[00:07:22]  It does not matter how much you say, wait, wait, wait, but we completely disagree with them on fiscal policy or something like that.
[00:07:27]  It doesn't matter.
[00:07:29]  There is, you know, as has been done already by former heads of the CIA and other powerful people.
[00:07:36]  Basically, that in the same way that, you know, what was the authorization for war said that Bush could go after the people who did 9-11, and that turned very quickly into Saddam Hussein, you know, and whoever else they wanted it to be.
[00:07:56]  In the same way, when they say we're just going after the MAGA Republicans or the January 6th people or something like that, it can very easily turn into anyone who's not with the progressive establishment order.
[00:08:09]  So, okay, we could talk a bit about this.
[00:08:12]  Anywhere you'd like to jump in?
[00:08:13]  Anything, any thoughts on the domestic war on terrorism?
[00:08:16]  Are you for it, against it, Rob?
[00:08:18]  I do think, well, the first time we really saw was when that FBI guy was on Bill Maher and he was kind of saying the importance of this domestic terrorism title.
[00:08:28]  And that was like the first time someone, it seemed like, was really pushing that thing.
[00:08:32]  But yes, I agree with you.
[00:08:33]  If it was up to the powers at B, you and I would be in jail right now.
[00:08:38]  Misinformation.
[00:08:39]  Yeah.
[00:08:39]  It does, it does seem like there's a real thirst to like very deliberately use these terms.
[00:08:47]  When very powerful people use terms like domestic terrorism or domestic extremism or any of these things, I mean, they're using it for a reason.
[00:08:55]  And again, just to point out, you know, think about what they did the last time they used these terms against people.
[00:09:06]  You know, like think about what they did following 9-11 in the old war on terrorism, you know, which was the Muslims.
[00:09:13]  Well, think about what the end result of that was.
[00:09:16]  It was what they were willing to do to those people who they labeled as terrorists.
[00:09:21]  Again, some of them were actually terrorists, but a whole lot of them weren't.
[00:09:25]  The overwhelming majority, like 99.9% of the people who have been killed in the wars over the last 20 years were not members of al-Qaeda.
[00:09:35]  And we know that they can get away with things that we can all agree are wrong.
[00:09:38]  The best example being COVID.
[00:09:40]  They closed people's businesses.
[00:09:41]  They mandated people that had to get shots.
[00:09:43]  There were a lot of us who were just like, hey, that's not America and that's wrong.
[00:09:46]  They still did it.
[00:09:47]  They still got away with it.
[00:09:48]  Sometimes I think I've seen footage of some of the stuff that went on at Gitmo and you see it.
[00:09:53]  You're just like, our government did that.
[00:09:54]  It's horrifying.
[00:09:55]  You're just like, I can't believe that we'd be willing to treat any person like that, terrorist or otherwise.
[00:10:00]  Like, I would just think that we would have enough dignity that we would never engage in activities like that.
[00:10:06]  But that's when government can't, like, they're not humans.
[00:10:09]  When they can get away with pure evil, they will engage in it.
[00:10:13]  It's just a function of whether or not we allow them to do it, which in the case of foreign terrorism, because it was in Gitmo and we didn't have to see or hear about it.
[00:10:22]  We mostly look the other way.
[00:10:24]  And, you know, it could just as likely happen here if they can just sell enough people on the dangers of you and I.
[00:10:30]  Well, and clearly, you know, they're attempting to make that sale right now.
[00:10:35]  Now, will they go ahead and do something as terrible as what they did in the Middle East or in Guintanamo Bay or in Abu Ghraib or something like that?
[00:10:42]  I mean, I don't know.
[00:10:43]  I'm not saying that's that still seems fairly far-fetched to me, but I still think that we should be pretty damn concerned when they are clearly making that sell.
[00:10:52]  And again, in the same way that they used 9-11, you know, now they use kind of like January 6th or the big lie or these other things.
[00:11:01]  But it's very easy for people to have the attitude of like, okay, but if I'm not, you know, if I don't deny the results of the election or I wasn't there on January 6th, then that doesn't apply to me.
[00:11:10]  And you see this group, maybe they are kind of fringy and they're a little bit nutty.
[00:11:14]  So I, you know, that doesn't, but then also remember that what about like, what, what was the label that the FBI used when parents were going down to school boards who were furious about two very clear things.
[00:11:25]  They were furious about the schools insisting on their kids wearing masks all day long.
[00:11:31]  And they were furious about the schools teaching them like crazy critical race theory, racialist insanity.
[00:11:37]  And what were they labeled?
[00:11:39]  By the Justice Department.
[00:11:41]  They were labeled domestic terrorists.

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[00:11:43]  So, oh yeah, that too.
[00:11:44]  It's you're also on the list, right?
[00:11:46]  Like you just don't want your kid propagandized in a mask.
[00:11:49]  And you're also in this list.
[00:11:51]  So don't, you know, don't feel like any of you are safe.
[00:11:55]  I'm beginning to see the propaganda machine in my head.
[00:11:59]  It's like Chris Farley and that semen black sheep when he gets out on the political stage and he starts yelling stuff and then the crowd gets real into it.
[00:12:06]  And then he yells, kill Whitey, and he loses the crowd.
[00:12:09]  That's them.
[00:12:10]  So they're up there and they're like, we got to be safe.
[00:12:13]  And everyone's like, yeah.
[00:12:14]  And they're like, and we got to take care of terrorists.
[00:12:16]  Everyone's like, yeah.
[00:12:16]  And he goes, we've got risk at home too.
[00:12:18]  And they're like, and then they don't go any further.
[00:12:22]  But if we got a yeah, they'd be like, and we got to arrest them.
[00:12:24]  And then if the crowd went, yeah, they'd be like, oh, great, we can do that.
[00:12:27]  But it's very much like they're testing the audience to see how much they can get away with.
[00:12:32]  Yes.
[00:12:32]  And they also seem to believe in killing Whitey.
[00:12:35]  So they're all, they're pretty much right there.
[00:12:37]  It's a solid analogy.
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=== Delicious Meat Investment News (12:51) ===

[00:14:22]  Just one other thing to add is we do have a proxy war right now going on in Ukraine.
[00:14:27]  So, you know, we might have gotten out of Afghanistan, but I think we've currently allocated or spent like a year's worth of war of Afghani war money in Ukraine.
[00:14:37]  That is our, it's our machines over there.
[00:14:40]  It's sometimes seemingly even our orders, even our targets.
[00:14:43]  Like, you know, so we're still at it.
[00:14:46]  Yeah.
[00:14:46]  Oh, yeah.
[00:14:47]  No question about it.
[00:14:47]  Yeah.
[00:14:48]  That's the warfare state always finds a new target, it seems.
[00:14:54]  So look, this is one of the things we talked about.
[00:14:58]  I mean, we did, I remember we did a live stream on January 6th of 2021.
[00:15:04]  And this was one of the big takeaways that we had from this, you know, the crowd entering the building was like, this is going to be a pretense for something, you know, and they're going to use this, which they certainly have.
[00:15:17]  And so let's kind of like go through this and take a look.
[00:15:20]  Now, the thing also, as we talk about this, that I want people to keep in mind, and I think that this is, I really say this to right-wingers who listen to this show.
[00:15:32]  I know that there's, you know, sometimes like a lot of them really enjoy the way we break down what's going on.
[00:15:40]  They may not completely agree with us when I'm, you know, like very hard on Trump or other things like that.
[00:15:45]  But I would say just this, like, even if you don't care about like, you know, whatever, if you don't care, it's like, yeah, we fought these wars, it killed a whole lot of people.
[00:15:53]  Maybe you'll even like tacitly acknowledge we shouldn't have done that, but whatever that's in the past, we got other shit to deal with or any of this.
[00:15:59]  Just understand that, like for your own survival, it should absolutely be a minimum that you will only support political candidates who are at least running on, because let's get real, they don't always have to keep their promises, do they?
[00:16:14]  But at least are running on that they are going to abolish the Department of Homeland Security, abolish the Patriot Act or whatever the hell it's called now, abolish all of these war on terror powers that the government took, because this is literally for your own survival.
[00:16:30]  And if nothing else, you know, you should at least be willing to look at the fact that Donald Trump, you know, all of this stuff that's being used against him, that's being used against his supporters, he signed it all back into law to continue.
[00:16:43]  Even expanded some of the spying powers that the federal government has.
[00:16:47]  So, you know, this should be a minimum that you support.
[00:16:50]  Like, you're, you're the Muslims now, buddy.
[00:16:53]  Sorry, sorry to break it to you, but that's you now.
[00:16:56]  And so you better get good on this stuff.
[00:17:00]  Okay.
[00:17:01]  First clip that we wanted to play was the lovely, wonderful, and eloquent Hillary Rodham Clinton.
[00:17:07]  Yes, she's still with us.
[00:17:09]  The herpes of politics.
[00:17:11]  Hillary Clinton makes another appearance.
[00:17:13]  Well, Dana, every time we approach September 11th, I do think about everything that I saw, all the people that I met, the families of those who lost loved ones.
[00:17:27]  So it is indelibly part of my memories.
[00:17:32]  And I feel grateful that we were able to come together as a country at that really terrible time.
[00:17:41]  We put aside differences.
[00:17:43]  I wish we could find ways of doing that again.
[00:17:47]  We rebuilt New York.
[00:17:49]  We have done our best to take care of the families that lost so much on that terrible day.
[00:17:57]  And we have also, I think, been reminded about how important it is to try to deal with extremism of any kind, especially when it uses violence to try to achieve political and ideological goals.
[00:18:18]  So I'm one who thinks that there are lessons still to be learned from what happened to us on 9-11 that we should be very aware of during this time in our country and the world's history.
[00:18:32]  You mentioned how.
[00:18:34]  All right.
[00:18:35]  So there's a decent amount to unpack there.
[00:18:39]  But so, yeah, this is basically Hillary Clinton saying that the lesson of 9-11, again, imagine the lessons you could learn of 9-11.
[00:18:48]  The lesson is basically that, yeah, we better do that.
[00:18:52]  You're just asking for it.
[00:18:54]  It's like, yeah, the lesson is, hey, we better do this.
[00:18:58]  We better have a war on terrorism against our own country.
[00:19:01]  I mean, that's obviously what she's okay.
[00:19:03]  She didn't come out and say it, but it's very obvious what she's implying when she says extremism of all kinds and even people willing to use violence.
[00:19:10]  And she, you know, she's talking about the Trump movement.
[00:19:12]  And again, not about Trump himself, but about the threat of extremists, right?
[00:19:19]  And so it is, it's interesting to have, and of course, from Hillary Clinton's perspective, right?
[00:19:26]  If you are the representative of the war state, which she really certainly is one of, and you represent kind of the whole military industrial complex, it's like, yeah, this has been a smashing success for you.
[00:19:41]  Yeah, we should do this again.
[00:19:43]  I think for sane non-lizard people, one of the takeaways here should be, and she's not, you know, because she's not wrong when she says that the country really came together after 9-11.
[00:19:54]  In fact, I believe George W. Bush in the following days after 9-11 had the highest approval rating of any president ever.
[00:20:02]  I double-checked me on that, but it was, if not the highest ever, it was like the highest in 50 years or something like that.
[00:20:08]  And it was incredibly high.
[00:20:09]  I mean, like everyone was together basically as a country.
[00:20:12]  There was really, it's hard to imagine to go back to the culture of 2001, but there really was no culture war in the way that there is today.
[00:20:22]  There was a much more mild version of it, but it just wasn't, it wasn't at all in the sense of how polarized the country is today.
[00:20:30]  And pretty much everybody was together with like is like, whoa, we just got attacked.
[00:20:34]  We're at war against whoever just did this to us.
[00:20:37]  And we're going to go, you know, we're all behind going and bringing justice to these people.
[00:20:44]  But what did we get for all being together?
[00:20:48]  So you got what, seven disastrous wars with millions of people killed, you know, thousands and thousands of our own military men, you know, killed, tens of thousands more committing suicide in the following years, trillions of dollars blown and entire nations destroyed.
[00:21:08]  You know, so Brian tells me it was the highest rating since Eisenhower.
[00:21:12]  So yeah, going back quite quite a way, George Bush's approval ratings post 9-11.
[00:21:17]  So yeah, we all came together and that was exploited for absolute disaster.
[00:21:22]  So there's, it's not such a given, by the way, that the country being together is preferable to the country being polarized.
[00:21:29]  Maybe we would have been much better off if we had been a polarized nation after 9-11.
[00:21:34]  Okay, but Hillary Clinton's lesson here is the lesson is that, yeah, you got to really deal with these extremists.
[00:21:42]  It's almost as if the takeaway from 9-11 is like, well, yeah, we did it.
[00:21:47]  We did a great job.
[00:21:48]  We did a great job fighting terrorism after that.
[00:21:50]  And we can do that same great job right now.
[00:21:53]  And just think about how creepy it is that this is what they want to talk about on the 21st anniversary of 9-11.
[00:21:59]  It's like, well, what are your takeaways?
[00:22:00]  It's like, well, you know, there were the people who flew planes into our building, and then there were the people who voted for Trump.
[00:22:07]  So we got a new threat on our hands now.
[00:22:10]  And we better get ahead of the extremism.
[00:22:13]  We don't want to just sit back and let them destroy buildings.
[00:22:16]  We better get ahead of this thing.
[00:22:18]  Yeah.
[00:22:19]  Yeah.
[00:22:19]  It is.
[00:22:20]  This is like, this is real.
[00:22:21]  And again, just to keep this in perspective, you know, the again, I harken back to this live stream that we did on January 6th.
[00:22:31]  And one of the things that I remember talking about, you can go watch this.
[00:22:35]  It's still up on our YouTube channel.
[00:22:39]  And I remember there was something about January 6th when you're watching it that was kind of, first of all, it's kind of exciting.
[00:22:44]  You're like, whoa, this is a big thing happening today.
[00:22:47]  And you're watching it, you know, in real time, like kind of like the people who are live streaming it.
[00:22:51]  And you're kind of wondering how crazy this thing is going to get.
[00:22:54]  And then there were very funny, like a lot of funny imagery that was coming out of it.
[00:22:58]  I mean, whatever side you're on, I mean, the guy like fartigan Nancy Pelosi's desk and what was the guy that they call the crazy guy with the bull horn, the shaman guy.
[00:23:07]  Yeah, he's so there's all these, you know, kind of weird, but I remember when we did the live stream, we did it that evening.
[00:23:13]  And the thing I was trying to say is like, guys, this is not funny.
[00:23:16]  And this was really stupid.
[00:23:19]  And this is before knowing about, you know, like some of the, let's just say, influence Ray Epps types and things like that, which, you know, had crossed everyone's mind, I think already.
[00:23:29]  But I remember saying it in a live stream, like, this is not a game.
[00:23:33]  You got these people don't even realize what they just did.
[00:23:36]  Like your lives are going to be ruined over this.
[00:23:38]  And they're going to really come down on you.
[00:23:41]  And that is what's happened.
[00:23:43]  Very few people talk about this, but so many of those people who just entered the building have like been held in solitary confinement since.
[00:23:51]  It's a goddamn outrage.
[00:23:53]  And of course, even people like, you know, like the kind of, I don't know, Beltway libertarian types or those groups, they don't want to touch this.
[00:24:03]  They don't want to say anything because, of course, you can never count on those types when it's.
[00:24:08]  when it actually takes some courage to say something.
[00:24:10]  You know what I mean?
[00:24:11]  Like when it actually matters, like being against the lockdowns in like March, April, and May.
[00:24:18]  Almost everyone like, you know, who's outside of the, you know, the insane world is against the lockdowns now.
[00:24:26]  But it, but back then, you would actually be called all types of names.
[00:24:29]  And everybody will acknowledge now that the COVID vaccine won't prevent you from getting COVID and stuff like that.
[00:24:35]  And they'll even acknowledge now that it won't prevent you from dying of COVID because lots of people have died who were vaccinated.
[00:24:40]  But there was a time when there was a serious price tag to say that.
[00:24:44]  Notice now, isn't it interesting how it changes?
[00:24:46]  Now, as I say this to me and you, we have no concern that this will get our show flagged, that this will get pulled off of you.
[00:24:52]  There's just no concern.
[00:24:53]  Like you're just allowed to say these things now.
[00:24:55]  Oh, you know, I think COVID came from a lab in Wuhan.
[00:24:58]  You're allowed to say that now.
[00:24:59]  There's no risk to it now.
[00:25:01]  But the thing that matters is kind of saying it when it counts.
[00:25:05]  And so a lot of these even like so-called libertarian types, the same type of libertarians who will criticize our camp, the Mises caucus and the Libertarian Party and stuff like that for being a little bit too like, I don't know, what, too right-wingy, or we pander to the right wing too much or something like that.
[00:25:23]  But these are the people who will absolutely stand up for the rights of nonviolent, victimless, you know, criminals.
[00:25:31]  They'll actually absolutely say, oh, we have a mass incarceration problem and all of this stuff, which is great.
[00:25:36]  I agree with them on that.
[00:25:38]  But do they dare, do any of them dare stand up for the people who, what, committed the heinous crime of entering government property when they were told not to?
[00:25:48]  Those people, how many years in prison are they going to be facing for that?
[00:25:52]  How long have they been held in solitary confinement?
[00:25:54]  You know, like how profoundly evil it is to do that to a human being when that was their crime.
[00:26:00]  And, you know, I'd like to think that the difference is for us that I would be saying the same thing if it were happening on the other side.
[00:26:07]  You know, like I look, I was one of the people who like I was calling for, you know, for the riots to be stopped because people were actively being hurt and property was being destroyed.
[00:26:19]  But if there was somebody who just attended like a Black Lives Matter riot and didn't act, didn't assault anybody and didn't actually do anything, they were just kind of there.
[00:26:29]  And they were doing like, they were like held in solitary confinement for like 200 days after that, as some of these people in January 6th have been.
[00:26:37]  I'd think, yeah, goddamn, that's a moral outrage.
[00:26:40]  I'd be totally against that.
[00:26:42]  It's really like, even Trump, like, I mean, I'll confess on this one, I'll go, you know, I don't, I'm not on truth social, so I don't see like everything he puts out, but I certainly haven't heard him making a lot of noise defending any of those people, demanding their release.
[00:26:57]  I mean, here you have this guy who even after being silenced, right?
[00:27:01]  Didn't he?
[00:27:01]  He flew to Washington, D.C. yesterday.
[00:27:03]  You see, he's like trending on Twitter for that.
[00:27:05]  I mean, he's, he could still just go somewhere.
[00:27:07]  And then that's like a huge story.
[00:27:08]  He could definitely, and through his people, he could put a lot of attention on this.

=== Radicalized Residents Inside US (10:57) ===

[00:27:13]  So a lot of Americans don't even know that this is true.
[00:27:15]  He could let them know, like, yo, they're holding all these people who did nothing but enter the building when a big mob of people were entering the building, you know?
[00:27:23]  And yeah, it's, it's awful.
[00:27:25]  But anyway, just keep in mind, these people are comfortable doing that to people.
[00:27:28]  So on what scale would they do it?
[00:27:30]  I don't know.
[00:27:31]  But they certainly are telling you on 9-11 that we think this is the lesson of today.
[00:27:36]  We think this is the lesson that those people should be treated just like just like we treated the nice people in Iraq and Afghanistan and Syria and Libya and Yemen, Somalia, you know, just like that.
[00:27:49]  So that maybe a nice, a nice drone war here in the United States of America would be called for.
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[00:29:24]  All right, let's get back into it.
[00:29:26]  The jail sentence stuff is real horrifying.
[00:29:28]  I was reading an article in Zero Hedge about this guy who is being repeatedly maced and then left in his cell, like unshowered and resulting in chemical burns.
[00:29:41]  I haven't read that much of this stuff, but it's pretty horrifying.
[00:29:44]  Jesus.
[00:29:46]  Yeah, Jesus Christ.
[00:29:48]  Yeah, horrifying indeed.
[00:29:49]  All right.
[00:29:50]  Well, in case you think it's like just something Hillary Clinton is saying and you go, ah, well, she's just some old ding bat who lost a presidential race and is never going to be in power.
[00:29:59]  Well, let's play another clip from this guy was the, he was, I think, the number three at the Department of Homeland Security, or maybe the number two.
[00:30:10]  I'm not sure.
[00:30:11]  But another Biden surrogate saying a very similar thing.
[00:30:16]  Wake of the September 11th attacks.
[00:30:19]  How has it evolved since then to safeguard the U.S. firefighters?
[00:30:27]  Jonathan, the threat landscape has evolved considerably over the last 20 years.
[00:30:32]  You know, back when 9-11 occurred in those years, we were very focused on the foreign terrorist, the individual who sought to do us severe harm to enter the United States and do us harm.
[00:30:46]  It then evolved.
[00:30:47]  We began to be more and more concerned about the individual already resident in the United States, radicalized by a foreign terrorist ideology.
[00:30:57]  Now we are seeing an emerging threat, of course, over the last several years of the domestic violent extremist, the individual here in the United States, radicalized to violence by a foreign terrorist ideology, but also an ideology of hate, anti-government sentiment, false narratives propagated on online platforms, even personal grievances.
[00:31:20]  The threat landscape has evolved.
[00:31:22]  I mean, like, this shit's so scary because what he's describing does not exist.
[00:31:27]  I mean, and he's saying it like this.
[00:31:31]  Like, if we lived in the reality that he's describing, there'd be terrorism all the time by people that were born here and read something online that does not exist.
[00:31:41]  Even amongst the school shootings that we've seen, it's not someone with some rat.
[00:31:45]  No one's done, shot up a school on behalf of Trump or on behalf of like that they read that Fauci was doing something.
[00:31:51]  I don't remember a single story of that happening in my lifetime.
[00:31:54]  No, I mean, sometimes they have like some crazy political like views, you know, but this is it's they're just as often on the left, though.
[00:32:01]  But you just you just watch like the concept creep in real time, where we go from like the concept of like a terrorist, you know what I mean, training in like a terrorist camp to come commit a terrorist act to going to like and people propagating misinformation.
[00:32:18]  And then, of course, as we cover to death on the show, like, what exactly does that mean?
[00:32:22]  I don't know.
[00:32:24]  Basically, from my perspective, the people who are right about everything on COVID, they're the ones who got labeled as the people spreading misinformation still to this day.
[00:32:32]  You know, I remember when I was on Rogan a couple years back, the one was two times ago or three times ago when I was on the one where Fauci responded to what he said on the clip.
[00:32:45]  And like, Rogan was completely right about everything he said.
[00:32:48]  In fact, he was completely wrong.
[00:32:49]  And you can just go like back and look at the clips of what Rogan said and what Fauci said when he responded.
[00:32:54]  And it's something like Rogan was basically like, oh, yeah, like if you're like old and sick or something like that, I'd probably say get the vaccine.
[00:33:01]  But if you're like young and healthy, my advice to you would just be really healthy, you know, like exercise, eat right, be really healthy, get lots of sunlight, be out.
[00:33:10]  Like that's, that's my advice to you.
[00:33:13]  And then Fauci said, you know, he responded and he goes, No, what Joe doesn't understand is that you don't get the vaccine for yourself.
[00:33:21]  You get the vaccine for other people.
[00:33:23]  Because if you get the vaccine, you can't get the virus and transmit it to other people.
[00:33:28]  So he was called out by the head doctor of the COVID response, even the Biden administration.
[00:33:34]  I don't remember if it was Biden himself, but they said something about him.
[00:33:37]  And it's like, no, what he was telling you was completely right and completely sound.
[00:33:41]  And what Fauci was telling you was a bald-faced lie.
[00:33:43]  So anyway, what they say when they say people spreading disinformation, they just, in many cases, just mean the ones who are telling the truth.
[00:33:50]  These are very dangerous ideas that there's a threat of it's twofold.
[00:33:55]  One, that there can be misinformation, that the government has decided basically has decided against free speech.
[00:34:02]  They decide in a policy.
[00:34:03]  And if you're criticizing the policy, that is now misinformation.
[00:34:07]  And then step two, it's another leap, which is that misinformation can lead to violence or inspires violence.
[00:34:14]  Because if both of those things are true, then you and I are now domestic terrorists.
[00:34:20]  And they would like to live in that reality.
[00:34:22]  And just to take a step back of how wrong that is, they were wrong about everything on COVID.
[00:34:27]  It's the idea that government should, like, it would be one thing, it would still be dangerous if it worked.
[00:34:32]  But imagine if, like, you stepped outside during COVID and your head exploded, and people like us were telling, no, the government's lying to you.
[00:34:40]  And then they got rid of us from being online and they actually saved lives.
[00:34:44]  The philosophy would still be dangerous, right?
[00:34:47]  That they can say that things are misinformation.
[00:34:49]  But the actual application of them creating this title of misinformation was them just being wrong.
[00:34:56]  Like they don't even have a track record here to support this reality.
[00:34:59]  And yet they're projecting it as if there's like, I mean, just the leaps of logic.
[00:35:05]  I'll recap it once more.
[00:35:06]  One, that they've gotten rid of freedom of speech by claiming that anything that's against their policy is misinformation.
[00:35:13]  And then it's another leap and bounds jump to say that things that people say leads or inspires violence.
[00:35:19]  Now, both of those, this Meyer Carditis guy just said is givens.
[00:35:24]  Right.
[00:35:24]  That's right.
[00:35:25]  Yeah.
[00:35:26]  Okay.
[00:35:27]  All right.
[00:35:27]  Let's play the rest of this clip.
[00:35:29]  threat of cyber criminals or foreign adverse states.
[00:35:34]  Now it very much is.
[00:35:35]  We have evolved.
[00:35:37]  We have grown to meet the evolving threat.
[00:35:40]  We have a cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency.
[00:35:44]  We have a center for prevention programs and partnership to address the threat of domestic violent extremism.
[00:35:52]  We've grown our grant funds working in partnership with state, local, tribal, territorial governments.
[00:35:59]  We've grown along with that threat because it is our obligation to do so to make sure that the American people are safe and secure regardless of the nature of the threat that we confront.
[00:36:11]  Mr. Secretary, you have said that domestic extremism, quote, is the single greatest terrorism-related threat in the United States.
[00:36:20]  What are the best ways to combat the domestic terrorism threat?
[00:36:27]  I think of course we have one, Dave.
[00:36:31]  If I ever get to this level, just have me wax my eyebrows.
[00:36:36]  Two, how do you get to make statements of that without proof?
[00:36:40]  See, this guy is government funded in a high position.
[00:36:43]  He thinks that...
[00:36:44]  Well, by the way, just to be clear, he's the head of the Department of Homeland Security.
[00:36:47]  I thought he used to be the deputy secretary, but he's the secretary.
[00:36:50]  I thought he was the border guy.
[00:36:52]  No, I believe he's the, he's, I believe he was, he may have had a few different positions, but I believe he's the head of the DHS now.
[00:36:58]  Fine.
[00:36:58]  How do you have a guy who's in charge of Homeland Security if he thinks the biggest threat in the country is domestic terrorism?
[00:37:04]  Shouldn't he have to bring some sort of evidence to that?
[00:37:07]  Yeah.
[00:37:07]  Like think if you, if he's actually operating under the guise that domestic terrorism is the biggest threat to our country, I mean, how many other problems are going overlooked?
[00:37:16]  How many people are sneaking into the country?
[00:37:18]  How many actual terrorist threats are being proliferated?
[00:37:21]  I mean, how many resources are we diverting to what's the biggest threat?
[00:37:25]  This is no different than the global warming bullshit.
[00:37:27]  It's like if you're Bernie Sanders and you actually think that the climate is going to die tomorrow and that we have to take immediate action, then what are you willing to do?
[00:37:35]  It's like, I don't know, we're living in Looneyland where government officials are allowed to make statements that have no basis in fact.
[00:37:42]  Yeah, no, 100%.
[00:37:44]  All right, Harry, let's just play his response.
[00:37:47]  I think, of course, we have to address the underlying cause.
[00:37:51]  And in fact, the president is convening a summit against hate next week.
[00:37:58]  We have to address why do people radicalize to violence?
[00:38:03]  And we have to work with local communities to equip and empower them to address the threat that could materialize.

=== Battling Threats From Within (03:15) ===

[00:38:11]  You know, we have seen in Buffalo, New York, in Uvalde, Texas, in Highland Park, individuals who showed signs of descending down a path to violence.
[00:38:26]  And we have to educate people on how to identify the signs when somebody is in need of help and to bring that help to bear so that that violence does not materialize.
[00:38:40]  So again, just the concept creep of like, it's all these things.
[00:38:43]  It's like terrorist cells, you know, these people who shoot up a bunch of people, you know what I mean?
[00:38:48]  Like all that.
[00:38:49]  And the people who spread misinformation.
[00:38:52]  You know, you're all kind of like in one big camp together.
[00:38:55]  So here we have a school shooter, you know, Osama bin Laden and Alex Bernstein, Alex Baronson, or something like that.
[00:39:04]  You know what I mean?
[00:39:05]  All kind of the same thing, right?
[00:39:07]  Yeah, the biggest mistake you can make right now is being right.
[00:39:10]  Yeah.
[00:39:11]  Yeah.
[00:39:12]  Oh, man, we're screwed.
[00:39:13]  All right.
[00:39:14]  We're right way too much.
[00:39:16]  So, okay.
[00:39:17]  So again, this is just to give you guys a taste of this.
[00:39:20]  This is where this is where the conversation was from the most powerful people on the anniversary of 9-11.
[00:39:28]  This is what they were.
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[00:41:04]  To add one more in there, here's Kamala Harris.
[00:41:08]  She was interviewed by Chuck Todd.
[00:41:10]  It was a pretty entertaining interview.
[00:41:11]  I got to say, man, is she just awful?
[00:41:13]  But here's what, here's just pay attention even to just because it's not that she even says anything because she never says anything when she answers, but just pay attention to the question that is posed to her and then her initial answer to it.

=== Remembering September 11th (06:25) ===

[00:41:26]  Look, we're at the 21st marking, if you will, of the September 11th attacks.
[00:41:32]  This was a foreign terrorist attacking our democracy, attacking this country.
[00:41:37]  We're now as a nation battling a threat from within.
[00:41:40]  Is the threat equal or greater than what we faced after 9/11?
[00:41:46]  That's an interesting question.
[00:41:48]  Um, I have held many elected offices as district attorney, attorney general, senator, now vice president, and there's an oath that we always take, which is to defend and uphold our constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
[00:42:06]  We don't compare the two in the oath, but we know they both can exist and we must defend against it.
[00:42:14]  All right, so again, like she kind of says nothing in her answer, but at least here, this is the question that Chuck Todd even asks.
[00:42:22]  They go, Okay, well, this is look, it's the 21st anniversary of 9/11.
[00:42:26]  So, what should we talk about here?
[00:42:27]  Well, we had this terrorist threat to us, but now we have this domestic threat to us.
[00:42:32]  Is it even worse?
[00:42:34]  And her response is just like, oh, that's an interesting question.
[00:42:37]  You know, I mean, they're all bad.
[00:42:39]  And it's like, this is the official narrative that they're setting up.
[00:42:44]  That it's like, hey, this is you're worse than Al-Qaeda.
[00:42:50]  Who are we talking about?
[00:42:51]  Well, that's pretty damn vague.
[00:42:53]  It's not exactly clear.
[00:42:54]  You know, basically, it seems to be, it seems to at least be a loose enough definition that could be basically anybody who's not supporting the regime, you know, basically anybody who's not on board with what the COVID regime, Joe Biden's presidency, like you're, yeah, you or Al-Qaeda.
[00:43:15]  I don't know.
[00:43:16]  There's a debate to be had there.
[00:43:19]  You know, it's like really that this is especially when you keep in mind, if you actually want to like talk about what the lessons of 9-11 and all this shit are, it's like, remember what they did last time.
[00:43:28]  Remember what they did last time they said this.
[00:43:30]  So this is, yeah, I mean, again, I'm, I'm optimistic that things aren't going to get that bad, but definitely something worth paying attention, uh, paying attention to.
[00:43:41]  I think what really scares me about this is when you can see they have a clear motivation that if it was up to them, they would have a titus of title of domestic terrorism, and you and I would not have our rights.
[00:43:53]  Now, what I find very concerning is that over the COVID, you weren't able to ask reasonable questions.
[00:44:00]  If they put out science and you're like, I don't understand this for my own health, you weren't allowed to ask those questions.
[00:44:05]  So, let's just say you and I ended up in jail.
[00:44:07]  Let's just say that as a theoretical, and then people wanted to ask, hey, why are these people in jail?
[00:44:13]  You're not going to get a platform.
[00:44:14]  It'll be, well, they were dangerous.
[00:44:15]  Well, they were terrorists.
[00:44:16]  Like, what did they're saying here?
[00:44:18]  Like, you don't have to make statements in fact and reason, and just questioning becomes misinformation.
[00:44:23]  There's very little in place by way of infrastructure now that if they weren't that authoritarian for people to actually shed a light on it and reverse it.
[00:44:32]  Now, I don't think you and I are going to jail.
[00:44:34]  I don't think that's the play card.
[00:44:36]  What I do legitimately think is the play card and what we're at risk for is when they take currency digital and they turn off your access to money or they turn off more of your access to these platforms.
[00:44:48]  It's a lot easier than taking people and putting them in jail than to say, like, if you quietly just don't have any of your money, no one had to come to your house, didn't have to knock on your door, neighbors don't see the cops showing up, and all of a sudden you're walking around going, Hey, I don't have access to my money anymore.
[00:45:03]  Like, and you're not able to get on social media to tell anyone about that.
[00:45:07]  Where do you go?
[00:45:07]  What the fuck do you do?
[00:45:09]  Just, I'm saying, look at our current environment of the way, like they kind of alienated individuals who are forced to be vaccinated for your job or otherwise.
[00:45:18]  And the lack of coverage that existed in the press supporting them.
[00:45:21]  I'm just saying, like, that's not a very distant reality.
[00:45:24]  No, and look, just to back up what you're saying there, that like this really was the response to the trucker protests up in Canada, right?
[00:45:33]  That it wasn't like, okay, well, what are we going to do about this here?
[00:45:36]  And the traditional answer would have been to like have police with batons come and start whacking everybody across their head and like really crack down on it.
[00:45:46]  But they were like, oh, no, this is way easier than that.
[00:45:50]  Just turn off all their bank accounts, you know, make some speech about how we're invoking emergency powers and just start shutting off everybody's bank accounts.
[00:45:59]  And, you know, and then they start threatening the insurance on the rigs.
[00:46:03]  I think that was one of the elements.
[00:46:05]  Yeah.
[00:46:05]  You know, and then quietly, like a couple months later, you could just like announce like, oh, yeah, they were right about all that.
[00:46:11]  We're going to drop all those requirements anyway.
[00:46:13]  Like we didn't, you know what I mean?
[00:46:15]  So it's like, now I don't even know.
[00:46:16]  I got to say, and it's not the country I live in.
[00:46:18]  Maybe I should be more up on this, but I don't know what's happened to a lot of those people who had their bank accounts seized.
[00:46:24]  So I don't know.
[00:46:25]  Did they ever get that back?
[00:46:27]  How many of those people's lives were ruined just from not being able to like make payments during that period?
[00:46:34]  I don't know.
[00:46:35]  And so they're very able to just kind of like bury this conversation.
[00:46:40]  And that mixed in with, say, like what we saw about the Hunter Biden, you know, scandal, like where things like that, big stories like that, they can shut off the link or you can't even share it.
[00:46:50]  You can't even like, you know, you can't even message somebody the link.
[00:46:53]  It's just things to keep in mind.
[00:46:55]  This is, this is, it's, it's stuff that we all better be aware of and have our eyes wide open about as we as we move forward and kind of try to strategize in the right way, you know, something to be something to be prepared for.
[00:47:13]  Yeah.
[00:47:14]  So anyway, there you go.
[00:47:15]  There's a whole bunch of people saying all this stuff.
[00:47:18]  So, I guess in conclusion, I would say, I don't know if I were to say, you know, what my lessons from 9-11 are is right at the top of the list would be like, let's not have the response to 9-11 happen here.
[00:47:37]  That would be a really good place to start.
[00:47:40]  Anything else you want to say on this topic, Rob?
[00:47:43]  Creeps me out.
[00:47:44]  That's about it.
[00:47:45]  I don't like it.
[00:47:47]  Yeah, no, I agree.
[00:47:48]  All right, we're going to wrap up there.
[00:47:49]  Catch you guys next time.
[00:47:51]  Peace.