Jay Smith and Robbie the Fire Bernstein dissect Pride Month's manufactured conflict, arguing that exposing children to drag shows creates artificial backlash against genuine LGBTQ+ rights. They critique Mika Brzezinski's "freaks on Facebook" narrative, revealing how progressive elites label dissenters like Ben Shapiro as enemies to suppress conservative voices. Dismissing the January 6th coup theory as false, they conclude that the establishment's terror of losing democratic control drives their aggressive tactics to regulate algorithms and silence political opponents. [Automatically generated summary]
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What's up, everybody?
Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem.
I'm back and I'm being joined again by Robbie the Fire Bernstein.
It's been a little while since me and you have podcasted together.
How are you, sir?
I'm doing great.
Some report store in action.
Pittsburgh was fun.
How's having the Ronies, though?
Round two.
It was not fun at first, but it's fine now.
I'm fine.
I'm back.
Were you actually even, were you sick at all?
Yeah, I was sick.
I had a fever.
I had a pretty bad fever for a few days there.
I got sicker this time than I did the first time.
I don't understand that shit at all.
Yeah, but whatever.
But I mean, you know, nothing crazy.
If we were living in normal times, it would have been like, oh, yeah, Dave had a nasty little cold for a few days.
I would have been that.
But anyway, I mean, I'm glad I caught it and didn't get like any of my family sick or anything like that, you know, but I'm fine.
You're going to be like, even the COVID's even like changed.
Like last time I had COVID, there were more people who were like, oh my God, best of luck.
And this time there was like none of that.
Like people are like, yeah, you'll be fine.
No one cares.
Yeah, everyone's over it.
Are you by the in-laws again?
Yep.
Same.
This is my quarantine spot.
But yeah, no, but I'm fine.
I don't have symptoms anymore.
I'm fine.
I'm not contagious or nothing no more.
Going home.
This will be the last episode that we that we're here.
But yeah, anyway, so we were, of course, on the road together in Reno there, and then you kept going on the road.
You did not get the COVID.
I've been fine, which is a shame, a real shame.
I've already been out there.
I've collected all the variants.
It's going to have to evolve before you get me sick.
Yeah, Rob's been treating this like a game of Pokemon from the very beginning.
He's just been out there.
He's got an app.
It tells him where all the COVID is.
He goes and collects it.
He thought he could win money.
Turns out there's no money in that, but you get some solid antibodies.
So there you go.
All right.
So why don't we start here with this episode?
Because there are a few things I wanted to talk about.
I want to try to talk about this and relate it more to the bigger picture of what's going on in America, if that is possible.
But of course, we're in the month of June now, which as you're well aware, Rob, is Pride month.
You've been extra proud this month, I know.
And this is, you know, I don't even know exactly what the hell this means, what Pride Month is.
What are you supposed to do?
Don't need a month.
Can we go back to days, single parades?
The days are, it's a slippery slope, though.
The days are where they started.
I think we got to get rid of the days, really attack the roots.
But like, even Black history is not.
No one gets any days.
No one gets any days.
You're not special.
None of you are special.
No, just consider like even Black history.
They have a problem filling the whole month.
It gets watered down.
Keep it to a day.
Yeah, you got like a solid week and a half of Black history.
And then you're like, I don't know.
I mean, what else did they do?
Really?
By the end of the month, they're talking about peanut butter and stuff.
None of this really needed to be here.
No, but it's a weird, there's a very strange dynamic with Pride Month or all the LGBTQ plus.
Is this the first year of Pride Month?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
I think it's happened before, but I don't know.
I could be wrong about that.
I don't really pay attention that closely.
But I think the weird dynamic that we have in this country is that they're really, it's like there's no genuine struggle left.
So they have to just kind of create them because, you know, they talk about like LGBTQ, whatever, rights, trans rights or something like that.
And there's nothing that like, what rights don't they have?
What, what is it?
I mean, like, as a kid, the answer was always marriage.
That's always what they would harp on.
That was always the thing.
But that's long been over.
That's the law of the land in all 50 states is you can marry whoever you want to.
So what do they fight now?
And so there really isn't a thing.
So you've got this month, and it's like, well, what do they do during the month?
And evidently the answer is to have drag queen shows with very little children.
That's the right that we're up to.
Like all of the things that you see at this point have, it's not a matter of like anyone going, hey, these people deserve their basic human dignity.
These people deserve to be treated equal under the law.
It's nothing like that.
It's like they should be allowed to compete in women's sports.
And you shouldn't say anything if they're like, you know, aggressively shoving this in the face of little kids.
That's where, that's what it seems to me to be.
That's where we are.
And of course, to that, there is a backlash, understandably.
No, it's the different but special.
The new push is that government should pay for your gender reassignment surgery.
They want to be like cows in India, special class of individuals with guaranteed jobs.
They get to behave however they want.
And because they're the special class, they're like deities that we should feel so lucky just to have them in our offices and in our lives and give them special treatment where they don't have to work.
And we praise them just for the fact that they are gay, lesbian, trans, confused.
I don't know, whatever their titles are.
Well, and it seems, it feels to me like there's a bit of a like a trap going on here.
And in the same sense that, you know, like stuff with January 6th, the stuff with like the school board meetings where parents are going down furious, and then you're labeled as a terrorist.
It's like, you know, they set up this trap for you.
They push you to see how far they can push you before you will react.
And then as soon as you react, they're like, oh, look, see, proved our point all along.
So the way they're doing this here is that they'll have trans show.
I'm sorry.
Jesus Christ, drag shows for little children with like wildly inappropriate shit happening at them.
And then if you like respond with the normal disgust reaction that most people have, then all of a sudden it's like, oh, you hate trans people, you hate gay people, you hate, so you're now put into this.
So it's almost like the problem they have is that there's not enough, like, there's not enough of this existing naturally.
So they have to kind of like manufacture it to then craft the narrative that they were already trying to start with, which is like, look, we have this huge problem of hating gay and trans people in this country.
When, as far as I can tell, that problem just isn't authentic.
It doesn't really exist.
I mean, I'm not saying like you could find anything in this country.
You could find any group that hates anything.
I mean, we're a big enough country.
You'll find some people who hate that.
I'm not saying it doesn't exist at all.
But in any large measure, I mean, look, right now, Legally speaking, it's legal to be gay.
It's legal to get married if you're gay.
It's legal for adults to be trans, to have surgery, to do, to identify however they want to.
Do you see any large pushback about that?
About any of that?
Because I don't see any.
I don't see anybody really trying to say, no, that shouldn't be allowed.
Or no, this is really horrible.
I just don't see any of it.
All I see is pushback against pushing this shit on young children.
That's all I see.
And so I'm sorry, but the idea that there are like people who are going like, oh, see, there's this huge struggle for rights.
It's like, no, the struggle seems to be over whether or not this is like wrong to push on little children, which seems pretty reasonable to me.
Yeah, it seems like you got to strip in front of kids just to get a rise out of people.
Well, that's it.
I mean, literally, if you have to do that to get a rise out of people, maybe there's not that much of a problem with hatred.
You know what I mean?
Like if you have to go to that level, and by the way, you're still going to that level.
It has not been shut down in our society.
Doesn't that in itself kind of prove to you that, oh, yeah, the idea that these people are really hated is not true.
If we lived in a society where these people were really hated, it would have been shut down long before they got to pushing this shit on little kids.
And if we lived in a society where this is really hated, I'd have to think the people in these communities would be much more concerned about this because they'd go, dude, they already hate us.
This is going to be insane if we start pushing it on their kids.
Is it a, I didn't get to see that much footage, but is it like a baptism where like kids will feel the spirit of the tranny and then like they'll stand up and go, I want to be trans.
And everyone like cheers and, you know, they get start putting makeup on them and put a wig on them.
And now I haven't seen that part of it.
But what I have seen is videos of the one that's really blowing up was this drag the kids to pride event, which I mean, the title already, it's just so hilarious.
I mean, it sounds like, yeah, that is kind of what you have to do here.
You're literally dragging the kids to this drag event.
But this, it's like, you know, I, you know, here, and maybe this is what I think is kind of the bigger picture of all of this stuff is that it's kind of, it's really wild to me that there isn't just a consensus about this.
And that, and perhaps there is, and they're trying to like kind of fall force a false consensus on the rest of us.
But that to me is like a major theme in our society over the last few years.
That there's all these things that we would have thought were like, well, there's just a consensus that we don't do this.
You know, there's just a consensus that you can't like loot and vandalize and burn someone's business because you're upset about some unrelated issue.
There's just a consensus that that's wrong.
But and then, and there largely kind of still is that consensus amongst the people, but then the media is going to like force down your throat that, no, that's not the consensus at all.
And there's, there's a million different examples of this.
But for the stuff with these like, like, I just, I can't imagine that we can't have a consensus that says, hey, like sexually explicit things are not really appropriate for babies, toddlers, and elementary school children.
Is that too crazy?
Here, Brian has a clip from this, just so it seems like it's clear that I'm not just like exaggerating or making up what happened, but it's, it's this.
Now, the sign in the back says it's not going to lick itself.
These are little kids with drag queens like stripper dancing in front of them, and they're giving them $1 bills.
I could have used trip club training as a kid.
It's a little weird.
You become an adult, you don't quite know the etiquette.
Well, but isn't this?
You know what?
So I was posting about how just wildly insane I think all of this is.
And you know, by the way, what the response that I got from a lot of people was, this was over and over again, not like one or two people said this, that they were like, oh, I bet you don't, I bet you have a problem or you don't have a problem with kids going to Hooters.
It's the same thing.
Which, number one, Hooters is an inappropriate place for very young kids, if you ask me.
I would absolutely think that's bizarre.
If people were bringing, what were we just looking at there in that clip?
A six-year-old girl?
If someone's bringing their six-year-old girl to Hooters, I'd be like, that's kind of weird.
It's kind of weird.
Because yes, you have the waitresses here are dressed in like provocative outfits.
That's a little bit weird to bring a six-year-old girl to.
I would agree with that.
Number two, it's not nearly as weird because she's not, if they were doing splits in a thong and she was handing them a dollar bill for it, that would be more weird.
Like, really?
Does this even need to be said?
It's just whatever.
It's very bizarre to me.
Very bizarre.
I'm not even to Hooters, anyways.
I'd rather just creepily stare at a wholesome waitress at a normal restaurant.
There you go, Rob.
I appreciate that.
Some good family values for you on this show.
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I understand like teenagers will do things.
You know what I mean?
And like teenagers have hormones and desires and like they're, they'll find little ways to like do these things that they're not really supposed to do in our society.
Why Most People Live Differently00:15:08
But that's a lot different than parents taking six-year-olds somewhere.
Like I remember being a teenager and us going to Hooters and that being kind of like a thrill for us.
It would be like, oh, yeah, let's fucking go to Hooters or whatever.
But that's different than your mom and dad taking you when you're six.
Isn't it the more appropriate way it's supposed to happen?
Is like you go discover this stuff when, as you're becoming an adult or somewhere in the neighborhood of that, those years.
Anyway, the larger point here is that it's like, it's, it's really bizarre that there can't be a consensus that like what that, just seeing that is like insane.
And the other thing is that it's like, that has absolutely nothing to do with hating trans people or gay people or anything like that.
Nobody's really giving pushback to the idea that adults should have rights, but people are giving pushback to that.
But that what you're not realizing is the agenda is celebrating these people for their specialness.
So, how incredible is it that you can live this alternative lifestyle?
And these people that are willing to plow forward with it, we should celebrate them because they're willing to do this.
Like, you know, so we got to indoctrinate the kids to realize how special these individuals are.
Isn't it so bizarre too that it's like, even as you say this thing with like the alternative lifestyle, it's like you're not even allowed to have that opinion anymore that it's alternative, it must be embraced as normal.
You know, like, um, people were um kind of making the argument that, um, you know, there's like it's almost as like I would always believe that like people have a right to live alternative lifestyles if they want to.
Um, I think for many years I led an alternative lifestyle.
You could still say I lead an alternative lifestyle.
I don't do normal things, I don't go to a nine-to-five job.
You know what I mean?
It's like, you know, like I was, I've been a stand-up comedian for the last 15 years.
That's pretty like different than what most people, how most people live.
I think you have a right to lead that lifestyle.
But I think it's also reasonable to recognize that it is the alternative.
It is not how most people live.
And that, in fact, it's probably not great for most people.
That most people probably aren't going to like aren't going to be able to live this lifestyle and aren't going to desire to and wouldn't do well living it.
Like, that's kind of how I tend to look at things.
I think norms are norms for a reason, but I think it's people have the right to live alternative lifestyles.
And I would go beyond that and say you shouldn't be a dick to people who live alternative lifestyles.
But that's different than saying they must be embraced as the norm and then pushed on little children.
So just different things to say, you know, and there was what a lot of people like, like even with the Hooters example that people were using, right?
Like there's so many, I mean, there's the obvious things that I just rattled off, like the differences here.
Like it's not nearly as raunchy, it's not nearly as sexually explicit.
It's also, like I said, still kind of inappropriate to bring little kids to.
But the other thing that it almost seems like they're daring you to say that I guess a lot of people are uncomfortable saying, but the other thing is that it's like, I don't know if you, if you bring a boy to Hooters versus bringing a boy to a drag show, I mean, okay, you can argue that like the Hooters girls are slightly sexualized and the drag queens are slightly sexualized, right?
Let's just say they were the same level for the sake of argument.
What is the difference there?
What's the obvious difference that like jumps out at you that I feel like these people are like, we're not allowed to say anymore?
Is that, well, yeah, but one is much more normal than the other one.
Like, one is it is much more likely that your boy is going to grow up and be interested in girls than he's going to grow up and be interested in drag queens.
Just play in the numbers here.
It's much more likely.
So when you're bringing little kids to this stuff, you're bringing them something where the overwhelming odds are like they would not be into this because most people aren't.
And so it's so bizarre to be like, it's not like you're pushing on your like 14 year old son, eh, girls.
You know, okay, now your son might be grow up to live some alternative lifestyle where he doesn't like girls, but the overwhelming odds are that he probably will.
So at least you could say you're playing to those numbers.
You know what I mean?
Like you're like, whereas now we, what we have to assume that everybody's going to be the exception to the rule.
It's anyway, I just find it so bizarre.
Well, I think therefore, I might have this way wrong.
Maybe this is my own homophobicness, or I don't even know the word, but that by normalizing the alternative sexual experience, it won't be alternative.
And so maybe these kids will both be more open to, I guess, sleeping with trans people or not judging their friends for engaging in that activity.
I think that's the intention.
You're right about that.
But my point is almost that it's like, that's basically my point: it's not enough to just say, like, accept where we were coming from or where I was coming from.
I assume you agree with me.
It's like people have a right to live alternative lifestyles and don't be addicted to people who live alternative lifestyles, you know?
But that's not enough.
No, we have to make it so that it's not an alternative.
We must force it into the mainstream.
So my point is that that's where people are objecting to this.
The idea that you have to go after kids and convince them, propagandize them that this is in fact normal.
That's where you're getting pushback from.
You're not getting pushback from, hey, gay people want to live our lives.
Stay out of our bedrooms, like the old shit they used to say.
Nobody's pushing back on that.
Next to nobody.
I have so many follow-up questions that I haven't seen covered, but like who put it together?
How do they advertise it?
What parents decided was a good idea?
And do they interview any of the kids afterwards to be like, what did you just think of that experience?
And then I'd also have some of those questions too.
And then I'd also love to know if any kids sat down with their dad afterwards after being taken there and been like, Dad, are you gay?
Like, it's okay.
If you want to break up this family, come out.
We get it.
Like, we support you.
You don't have to take us to your weird shit.
I really, I really, really don't know.
But it was, it was in Texas and there was a big counter protest that was like outside of it.
So, of course, it's like, you know, it's again, like I always say, and this is one of my major themes with this stuff is that it's all, I know they love to create these type of things to get everybody fighting over this nonsense.
So we're not focused on who our real enemies are.
The problem is that like, once they start going after children, it's not just a distraction issue anymore.
It becomes like a real threat, you know, and now you're like, oh, okay, no, this is actually something that needs to be soundly defeated.
But to the point I was making before, I do see this being connected to a bigger, a bigger picture and a larger theme in this country, which is that the consensus is there's an attempt to force a new consensus on the American people.
And that it seems like perhaps the old consensus is a threat to the elite and what their plans are now.
The old consensus of like, you're allowed to speak your mind.
You're allowed to expect that your kids won't be propagandized with this particular latest iteration of propaganda in public schools.
Stuff like this.
And it seems like a lot of the kind of ruling elite, they're freaking out because this new consensus needs to be enforced.
It's not something that can survive organically.
And I think that has a lot to do with why there's been such a freak out over censoring people on social media, why people freaked out so much at the prospect of Elon Musk buying Twitter and making it like a free speech platform.
And anyway, there was an excellent clip just this morning on Morning Joe where they were talking about that aspect of things, which I see them all as relating in some way.
So anyway, let's start by playing the first part of this clip.
You know, I've talked to a lot of former Republican friends of mine.
And, you know, we sound like Democrats now when we're around the table talking.
What do we do about it?
But, you know, junk about how Democrats are going, we don't deserve cuts and cheese.
Do we just take it?
Yes, it is.
Yes, it is.
There aren't enough.
No, but there is a mindset.
If you're a Republican and somebody spreads lies about you, you go after them.
You annihilate.
You politically, you annihilate them.
You don't sit around and go, oh my God, it's just not right.
So you worked for a political operation.
You worked for a White House that knew how to do it right.
What do you tell the people that are running both sides of Pennsylvania Avenue who, when I'm alone with them, are going, well, they just lie.
What can we do?
Well, I think the problem around this is getting worse every single day.
The media, the right-wing media advantage, this disinformation propaganda operation is so much more powerful now than when I worked in the White House.
It's getting bigger.
It's getting bigger.
It's flourishing.
Yes.
Mystastasizing.
Mystastasizing.
Cancer, that is a perfect metaphor for what we are dealing with.
And it is, I think, what we have to do is radically rethink how we communicate.
Everyone has a role to play here.
Democrats have to be more aggressive.
We have to invest in building up our own megaphone to compete with Republicans.
We need to, that doesn't mean we build our own Fox News.
It doesn't mean we run away from the mainstream media, but we have to invest in progressive outlets.
The media, I think, a lot of people need to have to rethink how they deal with people who lie for a living.
And then the social media companies have an obligation to do more.
We can't rely on them to do it on their own.
And so this is where Congress and the regulars have to step in to think about how we regulate these algorithms that are pushing this disinformation for profit.
All right.
So if you, as always with these guys, all you have to do is like read between the lines a little bit.
But as they're talking about the big lie in January 6th, which we can get into a little bit more because we're about to be inundated with propaganda about January 6th.
But what they're really telling you is that, look, the consensus that we're trying to form here is not taking.
It's not sticking.
And the problem is that there's lies and propaganda.
Of course, they blame everything on the lies and propaganda of the other side.
But the lies and propaganda are making it so what?
The American people don't really see January 6th as the worst thing in the world.
Maybe it's because it was a year and a half ago.
And basically what happened was some government property got damaged and then a fucking cop shot an unarmed woman.
Like that's, that's essentially what happened there, right?
But they're like, look, for whatever reason, this isn't sticking.
And so we need to rethink how we do everything because the conservatives here, the conservatives have such a big advantage.
They have a big advantage.
Why?
Because they have Fox News.
Well, again, the funny thing here is that, number one, if you look at this from at all, like an honest point of view, you'd go, I mean, progressives have every single institution, every single institution.
And they're still struggling with this.
I like where the guy goes, now, I'm not saying we have to build our own Fox News.
There's like, but you have your own Fox News.
He's literally saying this on MSNBC.
You have your own Fox News.
What's the issue?
People don't watch.
That's their problem.
That's what is right here.
And look, they're going to say it more explicitly if you didn't think that was clear enough.
But the issue here is that people aren't watching their, they're not believing your new synthetic consensus.
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So here, let's play the second part of this video.
Time and again, these social media companies are behaving in a way that we would never allow any other company to behave.
And by that, I mean, you know, 50% of Americans get their news from Facebook.
Would we allow CBS evening news with Walter Cronkite in the 60s when he was so dominant in the 70s to deliberately spread lies, channel them through Russia, or deliberately spread healthcare lies?
I don't.
I think the government would pull their FEC license.
Why can't we pass basic regulations to make these companies be more transparent about the algorithms that spread the lies on everything from COVID to January the 6th?
We absolutely should be able to pass them.
We actually have to pass them.
I think these social media companies are in many ways the tobacco companies of this era.
They're exploiting loopholes in the law to deeply damage America.
It's a connected sear cancer metaphor and with little to no regulation.
And so we absolutely have to do it.
The reason that it is hard is it is right now not in the interest of a lot of Republicans to do it.
If you go to Facebook on a daily basis, the most, the posts with the most engagement are from Dan Shapiro or Ben Shapiro, Dan Bungino, Candace Owens.
It is right-wing content.
It dwarfs progressive content.
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It dwarfs mainstream media content, which is actually should be the part that scares us the most.
That Ben Shapiro's Daily Wire has more followers and engagement, many times more than the New York Times or CNN.
That is a problem for democracy.
Are you saying that like the Republican agenda is backed up by the freaks on Facebook?
And so they don't want to do anything about it.
Absolutely.
It is.
Just making sure.
Yes.
To be very clear, is that Facebook is the most powerful messaging platform for the extreme MAGA message that benefits the Republicans.
They have very little, they like to cry about Facebook and big tech, and then they just laugh their way to the bank when Facebook pushes their message, including the big lie, all across into people's syreams all across this country.
So, so, okay, so let's, yeah, go ahead, Rob.
You can, you can start responding to this because I love it.
Again, it's beautiful when they say the quiet part out loud.
It's just fucking beautiful.
I mean, the levels of nonsense here is that essentially, first, they're saying that when it's left to a free market, people are more interested in Republican point of view.
And so we have to do something to police this because when we let the free market just read the information that they want, we don't have control or censorship over the media.
And we can't have that.
That's level two is they currently do censor these platforms.
So if anything, what you're really, what they're really calling for is, hey, we need complete democratic control over social media because when it's left to people to just read what they find interesting, they know that we're lying to them and we have no sway over the general public in any capacity.
It's yeah, exactly right.
He's going, look, the huge problem here is that Ben Shapiro is way more popular than the New York Times and CNN.
Sorry, we can't have that.
Go, yeah, but what's that?
What's the information being conveyed there?
You know, and then his point: this is something that these progressives like to point out a lot, which is infuriating because it's such a bullshit argument, is that they go, and you kind of touched on this just now, but that when they go, um, they go, Look, they're killing us on social media, and then they bitch about how, oh, there's this cancel culture on social media.
Like, as if one disproves the other.
It's it's like if you were, um, if you're running a race and somebody is from the audience is reaching out their leg and tripping you, and they're like, Oh, Rob keeps complaining about being tripped, but look, he's winning the race.
It's like, wait, hold on, that's not the question whether you're winning or not.
The question is, is that guy tripping you or not?
And if the guy was tripping you and you're still winning the race, then yeah, that kind of indicates you're like, dude, I'd be way out here ahead of everybody by even more if I wasn't getting tripped up.
To argue that people are not disproportionately silenced and kicked off of these sites if they do not fit into the progressive orthodoxy is, I don't even know what to say.
I don't care to have the argument.
You're just not like participating in the real world if you don't acknowledge that that's what's happening.
So, yes, the truth is that these sites are the progressive establishment is so unpopular.
And there, and this is the point I was making about like trying to build this consensus, which is not organic, is that they cannot sell this consensus.
And they just said it right there, right?
What Joe said at the beginning, the consensus.
He said, Well, look, we have to deal with all this misinformation on what?
What were his two examples?
COVID and January 6th.
But here's the problem in a nutshell: is that you're lying about both of those things.
Both of what they consider to be the correct consensus, the correct narrative is complete bullshit.
Is it COVID?
You guys were wrong about everything.
Every last damn thing you were wrong about.
And the thing that's amazing, and you've pointed this out several times on the show before, Rob, but it really is worth pointing out again because it's just so remarkable: is that even if you were to ask them, like, give me the official consensus right now on COVID, they would not have the same consensus that they had six months ago, a year ago, a year and a half ago, all of that.
Even they, without explicitly admitting it, like they may say, oh, the science has changed or something like that, but they would acknowledge that we're not saying the same thing we were saying back there.
They're not even really pushing that everyone should get the fourth booster right now, because even they don't have an argument for that.
You know, like, so it's like they know this consensus falls apart, but in a very Orwellian fashion, as soon as it falls apart, you pretend that this new consensus was always the consensus.
You know what I mean?
It's very out of 1984.
So, as soon as that falls apart, it's like, yeah, no, we always knew that.
You see this over and over again, like the lab leak stuff.
Like, yeah, that was always a theory.
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We were supposed to pretend that was always something that you were allowed to say, even though it wasn't.
Or the Trump-Russia collusion.
Well, we were working off the best information we had from the intelligence agencies at the time.
That's right.
And they'll be just as quick to tell you next time that you have to trust the intelligence agencies.
And the idea, the narrative that January 6th was this uniquely evil democracy-threatening attempted coup insurrection is something that you're just not selling with the vast majority of the American people.
You're just not selling it.
I will say, and they did, they did Donald Trump dirty with the whole Russia collusion thing.
With that being said, I do think, I mean, the way that all this shit's playing out is not really in Trump's favor.
And obviously, the investigations into how the Russia collusion thing happened with the deep state is never going to be uncovered.
But I do think if Donald Trump went in with zero evidence of voter fraud in any capacity and him and his lawyers really sat down and had a conversation to go, hey, I think even if we're losing this thing, here's a way that we can win it.
And we just don't have to certify election results.
That if that's what they were doing, like they were really just working with zero and trying to just stay in power because they thought they could rig the system and generate press, I do think that that might be worthwhile, worth investigating and maybe saying that he can't run again.
Well, I mean, I certainly think that's what they're going to try to make it out to be.
I'm not even taking, to be clear, I wasn't even disagreeing with that.
I think it is possible.
I mean, I don't fucking know.
And I don't really think that Donald Trump had some grand plan of how this was all going to work together.
If he did, it was the dumbest fucking plan of all time.
But how hilarious is that he didn't have a plan?
That even we're going to push conspiracy and like without the, like, it just makes no sense.
Well, if you remember back to the phone call with the Secretary of State of Georgia that leaked, that was what I was saying was like the overwhelmingly shocking thing about it was how much he had no plan.
Like he was really just like on the phone and he's like, well, we definitely won and they cheated.
So I need you to uncover it.
And the guy's like, sir, I see no evidence that you definitely won and they cheated.
And he goes, look, we won.
I know we won.
So fine proof.
I need 600,000 votes.
That's what I need.
And he's like, well, how would I find 600,000 votes?
He's like, just find him.
Just find, you know, like he had no plan.
So I would, I guess I wouldn't put that past Trump.
And if this was a plan, this was just the dumbest fucking plan.
Like the idea that they were going to intimidate Pence into what, not certifying the Electoral College results.
There's no way it would have happened.
At best, they would have intimidated him into pausing it.
The cops would have cleared them all out and then he would have certified it.
Like there's no conceivable way that this could have actually led to him going, sorry, angry mob outside.
I guess Trump gets another four years.
So if it was a plan, it was a retarded plan.
And maybe they will find some evidence that there was actually a plan of this happening.
And I don't know what the, you know, we'd have to wait and see what they found and what the response to it should be.
But that's not even my point.
My point is that the media narrative is that this was the gravest threat to our way of life and to our democracy and all of this nonsense.
That is demonstrably bullshit.
That even if this was a plan by Donald Trump and his people that they deserved to be punished for something if some laws were broken or something like that, it still would have been a plan that never could have actually had any impact on the United States of America.
So that's my point about their narrative being complete bullshit.
I think there's, I think that you're absolutely right that that's what this whole investigation is going to be about.
And I mean, I think this is an effort.
They are very concerned about Trump running again.
And I think this is going to be this whole January 6th investigation is going to be about stopping that.
We'll see.
We'll see if they can actually do it.
But also, I think the bigger concern is them pushing some domestic terrorism thing and pretending like the real threat to our democracy were the individuals who were there on that day who ran into the Capitol.
But also with Trump rerunning, I mean, the point of the democracy, even if he did try and cheat while he was in there, like we can still put it to a vote and see how many people think, well, the system did him dirty.
And so he tried to dirty it back and it didn't work.
And we'd rather have him than these other people.
You know what I mean?
Like other Republicans can even run against him.
Like, so if you put it to a vote and the country goes, well, we don't care.
Well, then that's the vote.
Yeah.
Well, look, Rob, I mean, it's like I was saying to you before, they really are afraid of democracy.
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You know, it's a very interesting thing.
They're terrified of it because you're absolutely right.
I mean, if you just believed in democracy, then that would be your response.
You'd be like, well, look, we're going to get all of this information out to the American people.
And then they get to decide.
They get to decide with their vote.
Because if Donald Trump does run again and if he does win again, then you would kind of have your answer there.
If democracy is what you care about.
Again, it's not.
I'm not pretending democracy is what I care about, but it's definitely not what these people care about.
In fact, it's really eye-opening to see how terrified of democracy they are.
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By the way, the other point that I wanted to make about what Mika Brzezinski said there in that clip, which I forget exactly, I'm blanking on what she said, but she said, oh, after they come to the conclusion that the real problem is that people on Facebook are just listen to these other people, not you guys, that she said, so it's the, she said, what did she say?
It's the fake Facebook sickos.
What was her?
Could you just pull back, Brian, just to the last few seconds of that video?
Because I just want to make sure that I quote her accurately.
It's backed up by the freaks on Facebook.
And so they don't want to talk about it.
That's what I was looking at.
So the freaks on Facebook.
So this is another thing where the mask really slips, where it's like the freaks on Facebook.
It's like, who are you talking about here?
He disagree with her.
Right.
Like, this is how they look at and view.
Like, it's this is who the enemy is, according to MSNBC.
This is kind of the creepy part of all of this.
The enemy isn't actually Trump.
The enemy isn't actually Ben Shapiro.
The enemy isn't actually the people who stormed the Capitol on January 6th.
The enemy is you.
They think the enemy are the people who will listen to Ben Shapiro.
The people who, again, just to be clear here, she's not claiming these are bots.
She's not claiming this isn't real.
She's saying the enemy, the point that they started with there was that way more people are listening to this other news outlets than are listening to them.
And who's the enemy?
Those people really take that in and think about how profound an admission that is.
The freaks.
You know, Mika Brzezinski is the daughter of a former Secretary of State.
That's who this woman is.
She's grew up in a family worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
Her father was Jimmy Carter's Secretary of State.
That's the life she grew up.
And she looks down her nose at regular people who disagree with her ideology, who disagree with the consensus that they are trying to enforce on the American people.
Those people are freaks, according to her.
Isn't that pretty amazing that she'll say that out loud?
This is coming off a conversation where they're saying the problem is that these other outlets are dwarfing them in terms of the numbers.
And the problem is the people who are listening to them.
Not perhaps that the problem is like it, it wouldn't be as disturbing to say the problem is the leaders.
Oh, we think all these good people are being led astray.
No, that's not what she thinks.
She doesn't think they're good people.
She thinks they're fucking freaks.
Now, the irony in all this is that it's like that is, and I've been saying this for years.
That is your answer, Mika Brzezinski.
That essentially is your answer.
Your answer, why do they like this other show so much more than my show?
Oh, because probably the host of that show doesn't make them feel like they're freaks.
It's like, you know, imagine being like, like if you were like trying to wonder, if you were trying to figure out why some girl was interested in another guy and not interested in you, and you were like, why does this dumb fucking bitch not like me?
And be like, oh, well, like, that might be part of it.
Like that attitude about her, that might be something that she's not really into.
Like, you know, you are instead of it for a second going like having that.
I mean, all it takes is like the slightest bit of introspection to look at that and go, oh, all right.
Yeah, I guess that's why.
Maybe this is why.
But maybe they don't agree with my consensus that I'm trying to enforce.
Maybe it's not a consensus at all.
Maybe, maybe they don't, maybe we haven't been standing up for the shit that they care about.
You know, like none of this.
It's just like very blatantly like, well, these freaks are listening to the wrong stuff.
Why is that?
I just thought that was an amazing little moment there.
All of it.
Them, them openly like, and the thing is that there's so there's such a lack of self-awareness that they don't even think to themselves, Rob, imagine just sitting around this table, bitching about how others have higher numbers than you.
And not like there's no little tingly thing in the back of you.
Nothing scratches.
Yeah, like nothing scratches at you and goes, maybe we shouldn't do this on air because we're coming off like a bunch of bitches right now.
And then to call them freaks and not go, oh, I'm supposed to be like a newswoman.
I'm not supposed to be like attacking the American people.
I'm supposed to be delivering them the news.
That's not really my role.
I don't know.
So bizarre.
So disturbing.
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All right.
That's going to be our show for today.
Rob, what do we got coming up?
Let the good people know.
Absolutely.
So Chicago, I believe we're all sold out, but maybe you can scalp tickets or something like that.
Pork Fest also sold out, but I think there's a secondary market for tickets.
And you guys should check out the Free State Project because there you got some cool stuff going on.
Moving libertarians to state, winning some interesting local battles.
Other than that, I got porch tours in session, a lot of cities on the calendar, including Seattle, Standpoint, Idaho, Denver, Atlanta, Nashville, and more coming your way.